Beyond 531 Review: Different, But Better? Wendler's Update to His Popular Strength Program Explained
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Jim Wendler's 531 has become a staple in strength training circles over the last decade. His follow up installment, Beyond 5 3 1, offers a ton of variations to the classic scheme as well as a more specialized strength specific approach that differs vastly from his original linear progression. Here, I review Joker Sets, First Set Last, Pyramids and weigh out how Beyond 531 compares to the original.
I've been running 531 simplest strength for 3+ years and this is the most fair, balanced, and knowledgeable review I've seen on UA-cam
How's it been for you? 2 cycles gave me crazy gains
@@Summerbrah it's been consistent, my only real gripe is pressing frequency
@@unskilledlabor1 so did you get a lot of plateaus? Also, how was the hypertrophy for you?
You've been running the same 5/3/1 program for 3 years? There's plenty of other 5/3/1 programs you could do, including some with more pressing frequency.
@@ElloAsty I've changed things up recently, still 5/3/1 but more of a Frankenstein version with more pressing variations as you described
I'm loving these program reviews!Some of the most comprehensive information on UA-cam. Cheers Bromley - you deserve way more subs!
For me, Beyond is about what you feel on the day.
I run 5/3/1 simplest strength routine. Some days I feel really on it, and easily hit my 5+ day for 8 or so. When that happens, I usually add a joker set. If it still feels good, I will do first set last just to get more volume. On the 1+ days, I usually don't do first set last, but if I get 3+ reps, I may add 5lbs and do a joker, maybe 2. I think beyond just adds to choices about how you feel, rather than being stuck to the program.
I really enjoy these program review videos, awesome information they've helped me in my own programming.
I've read his newest book "Forever" and he really clears up a lot of confusion and gives lots of recommendations for assistance and he goes into how to program with the leaders/anchor cycles. It seems like it's more planned out and designed to teach people how to program using 531 as a template.
I think it would be super interesting to see a video about your own training philosphies
2nd'd
Digging all of the new content man. You've been a content producing machine. Thanks for all of the info.
Gotta do something productive while the world is closed!
@@AlexanderBromley will you be reviewing thors power program or deadlift gospel? love your videos and have subscribed
These are super valuable. Great work man. Hearing your thoughts on some of the variations in 5/3/1 Forever would be cool too.
Awesome awesome review man. I am using 5/3/1 BBB, but am still learning as i go about 5/3/1 and other schools of training.
That bit you said about eggs & world champs is a super important point. Some training styles aren’t for everyone, they’re only for those who can survive them.
Good review. Forever corrects a lot of these issues but also throws about 200 different variations of 531 at you.
I love your videos Alex, thanks for putting so much effort into explaining these. I would like to see a review on Forever, there are some amazing templates there.
Thanks! Great review. After following starting strength and reading practical programming I went down the Wender rabbit hole. I think you are spot-on. Forever makes my head hurt.
Was wondering about this! Thanks as usual!
Solid video! Very rational and analytical! Keep up the good work, man!
And that’s why Alex is the goat of knowledge
I like the simple 5/3/1 layout, but its definitely one of those things you have to take and just adjust for yourself using other programming methods
I personally like hitting 2 or 3 top amrap sets and possibly some singles at 95%
One of the most underrated channels 🙌
Great overview although I think you may have read it too quickly. He states that joker sets should only be done when feeling very strong. I interpreted this and implied it into my own training by only doing the joker sets on one upper body lift and one lower body lift at a time. (Ex: jokers on squats and jokers on OHP)I tried doing jokers on all four lifts for the first week and realized it was not going to work out quickly.
I appreciate your lack of bias. Your common sense and insight are valued, too.
Great Video as usual. I would like to know your opinion about 5th Set.
Please review Canditos 6 week strength program or his deadlift program! Good work on the consistency of uploads btw too.
What. Are. Joker. Sets
What. Are. Joker. Sets
Cmon Bromley review Candito
There's a variation called SVR in the Beyond 5/3/1 book that I really liked.
I loved 5/3/1, and 5/3/1 second edition, but I was SO disappointed with Beyond 5/3/1, for all the reasons addressed in this video.
Try 5/3/1 Forever, theres quite a few changes
You should review NSUNS! It's inspired by 531 but a different paradigm. Huge following on reddit
This is great! I could watch these videos all day. Would you mind giving your opinion about the Smolov program for squats? Do you think Smolov is only for "equipped" lifters? Or could naturals do it as well (without completely destroying their knees/lower back)?
I've never been on stuff,but at least in my experience I wouldn't recommend any high frequency programs,I always got joint,tendon,muscle knot problems from them😅
5/3/1 works because it is a variation of step loading/wave loading. Its better suited for intermediate/advance lifters imo because of this. Its basically linear progression in wave format. This is also why a person who has a training max of 600 will get much more out of a 75% set of 5 (450) than a person with a max of 300 (225). 5/3/1 can work if adhered to, but everyone thinks its too easy at first, and its meant to be like that. But 8 weeks from then, you’ve added poundages and you’re getting a better stimulus and are able to handle more volume. I think just understanding wave loading is something most people should understand and utilize.
We to be honest i started a 14 year old kid out on this program an his lifts are going through the roof qucik
Review 531 forever please Bromley!!! Awesome information in all your videos
thanks man, great video!
Excellent and comprehensive video. With regard to whether or not to do a Forever video, I for one would like to see it. I think it will address a lot of the concerns you brought up in this video. It could be valuable depending on who your audience is. For powerlifters, it's not super useful, but for the average gym lifter or someone who's an athlete (even recreational) in a different sport, it could be very useful, particularly the addition of programmed conditioning and the aspects of block periodization introduced with leaders/anchors. Also, there is precisely 1 UA-cam video about Forever, so lots of people considering buying the book could find your review video helpful when making that decision.
Thoughts:
Joker sets as a concept are kind of a mess (Wendler admits as such in Forever). That said, my understanding is that they are supposed to offer a sort of auto-regulation. You use them on days you feel great, skip them on days you don't, and don't overdo it. I think Wendler does a poor job here at giving guidance for the average lifter on how to decide when to use them and when not to.
I completely agree with your critique at 10:00. I often get the sense (especially when reading Forever) that the recommendations are so broad that they're almost meaningless. However, one thing I find irritating is that everyone who reviews the original 5/3/1 program skips right over the supplemental and assistance work components, then complains it's low volume. At least with Beyond/Forever it's clear that these extra bits are mandatory (no more "I'm not doing jack shit" template).
Also completely agree with you at 10:40. I realize that especially with the supplemental work it's not critical that it be a specific movement or specific intensity, and it's more about just getting some volume in...but it's easy to fuck up, particularly for the target demographic of this program. I know I fucked this up doing 5x10 deadlifts a few years ago and trying to understand why I wasn't recovering haha.
13:45, yep. The branding/names kinda drive me crazy too. He does a better job in Forever of helping the reader choose which template would be best for them, but it's still very...basic. You're choosing just based off of a 1 paragraph synopsis of the program. Sometimes makes me feel like I'm a 14 year old looking up programs on bodybuilding.com or something.
To me, the beauty of using the larger 5/3/1 system (the structure you mention at 9:30) as a general strength trainee (not a powerlifter), regardless of the specifics of the template is this. You have the main work that is prioritized above all else, and because the intensity is modest and progression is so slow, you should be able to continue to progress even if you're pushing your hypertrophy work or conditioning, or even while dieting down (to an extent). This allows you to do a quasi block periodization, where you might take 6 weeks, do no pr sets or jokers, and run tons of volume on supplemental and assistance work to drive hypertrophy without throwing your strength progress out the window. Then run a period with pr sets and jokers to simulate an intensification phase. All while keeping 1 foot in the general strength working range at all times.
Additionally, you can dial up and down on the training max for each lift (not sure if this is in the books, read on the forum) to modulate fatigue and progress. Also, the supplemental work doesn't need to be identical for all lifts. For instance, I don't do volume deadlift work anymore, and use the deadlift "supplemental" slot for more squat volume.
Hope this helps.
How would you modify 5/3/1? Would love to see a vid on it.
Any strongman competitor attempted high frequency training. I've seen cases like Greg Nuckols and Travis Mash who did version of squat every day where they proceeded to break records. Interested to hear your thoughts on something like that.
high frequency definitely works but fatigue must be managed. You can't am rap every session and you need some variation.
Awsome vids. Could you do one on concurrent vs block. Like a sort of westside for raw lifters
Keep up the great work
I might cover the ins-and-outs of concurrent in a very broad sense, but nothing I do on it would be a 'how-to'. I'm not a fan of concurrent training for most lifters and (more importantly) I have less experience with it.
@@AlexanderBromley ok mate look forward to the vid. Cheers
Can you please review 531 forever now, it is more periodized than the original
I've been running an older version of 5/3/1 for a few years now. This is my first time being introduced to joker sets, those seem CRAZY to me. I definitely cannot do 105% of my TM for 5 reps for most of my lifts.
Alexander! Another great video! Tha ks! What is your take on using the 5/3/1 Foundation with plyometric training as the accessory work after the big lift for the day is done?
Should we stagger the deadlift and squat? As in, 5s for dead while doing 3s on squats?
Can u dive into step loading example programs.
What are your thoughts on 13 week PHUL (power hypertrophy upper lower split)?
Love the program, i add dynamic work after the money set. Great principals .i am on my 5th wave of the squat portion and still hitting PRs . the system works .
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I did the 5-3-1 a couple of years ago - with good results and I intend to go back to it end of this year,
I wonder why you only focus on the 5-3-1 sets.
In my experience (I did the BBB program) the 5-3-1 sets where the "recovery part". The 5 x 10 hypertrophy sets have been the ones that have been really demanding (for me)...
It seems to me, that the "accessories" sets, are the main drivers of the program.
One of the greatest advantages of the basic 5-3-1 IS it's simplicity. I have 30+ yrs of lifting and competing under my belt and the basic 5-3-1 removes two of the biggest hurdles of most programs and routines and that is the mystery of "Auto-Regulation" and Overtraining... The Auto-regulation method is totally subjective and unreliable. The very thing that makes 5-3-1 so successful IS it's simplicity combined with Low volume and some Dorian Yates HIT style intensity. There's nothing subjective about it. It can be very demanding if it's done right. For me, the 4th week De-load is ALWAYS needed and I take FULL advantage of the recovery and growth factors that occurs during the De-load week. I only vary my programming if I hit a wall, get stagnant or training for a meet. I LOVE KNOWING WHAT IS EXPECTED OF ME BEFORE EACH W/O! I know my #'s 1 month out! I Love knowing the #'s I must hit. Unless illness or something tragic happens, all I have to do is show up and execute. -No wondering, making excuses and talking myself out of it on a bad day. ALSO, no days where I "Feel So Good" I say; "Hey, throw on another quarter, I feel good today"!! -that's just subjective BS! It will get you hurt and OVERTRAINED!! Less is more! Thx Jim!
Could you review Ben pollacks Think Big program.
Been a fan for ages of you and finally invested in the book last week. Amazing by the way. Its the first book I've ever invested in and I am 37, so that's a testament.
Just hit a wall on a basic LP A-B split I created. Mixed a few different ones by the end of it. Started Basic and added lifts as became stronger and gained better technique and needed more volume. Actually stuck on which one of your program's to move onto now? I created a custom built 5/3/1 BBB program using methods from the book for the time being, to dip my toe into 4 day splits.
Really fancy trying either the Powerbuilder, bullmastiff, or 70s program next. I like the 4 day split now after 6-12 months of AB I like part of 1 main lift 1x a week.
Which one next, that's the main question. Help with best order please
I recommend sticking with a split and moving between a few Base and Peak phases, really getting a handle on what longer term progress feels like, before moving to another split or program altogether. There's nothing wrong with experimenting, but you should feel like you have mastery over one method before jumping ship. Reset or start a different progression or move to a different rep threshold for a time. Play with the secondary movements. There's so much you can manipulate in one template.
@@AlexanderBromley thank you so much for the reply. Big fan here from the UK. Keep up the good work and any future books or releases I'll be collecting for sure. Thanks man
Exactly how I felt about Beyond 5/3/1. Feels scattered and vague. I bought it on Kindle, read it in a day and returned it. Not bad information, just not really a well-explained program, or honestly worth the money with all the other information out there.
Hey Alex. If say I do my main day of bench 5/3/1 and use BBB should I do 5x10 bench on that same day? Or should break up bench So i bench twice a week and so 5x10 shoulder press instead? And do 5x10 bench on my main press day? Hope this makes sense 😂 cheers
I bought Wendler's book in late 2019 after about 18 months of lifting. I also used the subreddits that recommended Wendler's protocols. I've never heard of Joker sets or the first/last principle. I've only ever known the fundamentals and the variations like BBB that have been around for years. So this video and seemingly your other one are absolutely necessary. I made consistent (but slow) strength progress with 5/3/1 and love the rep scheme, but as I've gained more experience I can definitely see the criticisms.
531 Forever is just different ways to string together the core percentages.
Basically 531 is a collection of templates based on the following updated 531 skeleton
Main work: 531 with amrap sets or 5s PRO which is sets of 5 all 3 weeks (same percentages, lower training max)
Supplemental work: Do BBB, BBS, SSL or whatever.
Assistance: Just that, do some pulls and other exercises to build the primary movements.
Update TMs every 3 weeks, take a deload every 2 cycles.
BBB: Do them at first set last percentages (or really any percentages).
BBS: Do them at first set last percentages
Widowmaker: Do one all out set at first set last percentages
FSL: Do 5x5 at first set last percentages
SSL: Do backdown at second set last percentages
5x531: Do 5 sets at the third set percentages
This is a summary of Forever? So it looks like a continuation of the theme of more varied options for the sake of variety.
@@AlexanderBromley Skip 531 Forever...it's basically different variations of 'do 5 reps' while Wendler calls you lazy on every page. It's really more of a collection of blogposts and stream-of-consciousness than an actual book (at $50 no less!)...it doesn't even have a table of contents, and it introduces more "advanced" variations before explaining the most basic ones. He also introduces more complicated branded lexicon (accumulation cycles = "leaders", realization = "anchors", being the most obvious. Jokers = heavy singles, "7th Week Protocol" = deload...).
I think he has some great holistic philosophies, especially considering your weight training along with conditioning and recovery...but you nailed it in this video: it's just a set of tools with very little guidance.
@@AlexanderBromley Very high level summary of 531 Forever, yeah. Do the main 531 work and some kind of backdown work, assistance and let your TM creep up.
It does get into some basic block periodization as well like doing Boring But Big for some cycles before transitioning to a low volume block to set rep records.
@@John-fh2mg lol honestly I think you just convinced me to review it!
The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am by the nick names.
Alexander Bromley 531 Forever introduces “leaders” and “anchors” which is basically Wendlers way of saying block periodisation.
He has also come out with many new templates including the highly anticipated “Krypteia” program which Jim utilises with his school athletes.
TLDR;
Forever is a “simplified” version of block periodisation using the 531 scheme that people can follow easily and get results, nothing too extraordinary.
Do 5th set by Swede Burns
Everyone by this point likely has done 531. It’s just different tweaks here and there and find one that works for you. Building the Monolith is a beast. Free online on how someone said they did it. But it’ll wear you out if you don’t dial back fast enough. I’m going to follow Empire Barbell’s program on the website as close as I can. I like the old school of programming high rep work. Got out of the volume based work a long time ago and I think I’ve been spinning my wheels like trying to be ufpwrlifter and hit 2-3x body weight benching. Probably just focus on hypertrophy and growing to build the base before chasing numbers.
Building the Monolith is fucking awesome. The diet portion alone gave my bowels PTSD.
In this new program do we still apply pr*90% as our training max?
5 3 1 based on 90 per cent max lift.8-12 reps of all body exercises for muscle growth.
Every few months base the lifts on 100 per cent max rep for a pr.
In the original 5/3/1 he says don't customize the program. This "do what you want" is customizing the program. Doesn't have the slow progression, feel like some people will just be maxing each week on the joker sets.
I can only imagine how a review of 5/3/1 Forever would be, heehhehehehe. I am still new (2 years of an amateur trainning seriously), but I can confirm that the first book was way more ground breaking, very simple and right to the point.
I got my hands on a copy, but at this point am too scared to crack it open lol. I feel like I'm going to need a full weekend to get out of that rabbit hole
Great video man. Could you discuss a bit what terms like novice and intermediate mean to you? I consider myself kind of a beginning intermediate, have a 550 squat, 565 dead, 300 press, done a few Strongman comps and was ranked 7th in Atlantic Canada one year at 230lbs (it was an odd year). I guess I see these things like 531 being called intermediate programs and I just scratch my head. Maybe it has to do with who you lift with. The guys I compete against are beasts compared to me and they’re still not even at the top of the sport nationally. Then I see guys calling themselves intermediate doing 531 with only a portion of my strength and I’m like, is my view too high, or is theirs too low? Never would I call myself “advanced”
I don't particularly like labels but to 99.9% of people, you're advanced. Put it like this, what percentage of people who train have your lifts? It's a small percentage.
Now if you're talking about being advanced as a strength athlete, that's a different discussion.
Shyts not that simple,You gotta take into consideration how much lighter they are than you😅,if you ask me the difference between a novice,intermediate and advanced is how much of you bodyweight you are able to lift on your lifts,look at it this way,for a 155 guy that 300 bench of yours is damn impressive,but for a 230 guy that same weight is super mediocre😅
@@zezeti2246300 press at 230 bw is insane, he wasn’t talking about bench
For a long term protocol with a powerlifting meet towards the end of the year, would you suggest something similar to this?
1. 5/3/1 BBB 2-4 Cycles
2. 5/3/1 joker sets 2-4 cycles.
3. 3/5/1 With accessories
4. Then do a meet?
You still need help? I peaked for 2 meets on 531 then tried candito 6 week and hit crazy PRs. My $0.02
@@HooDRidEWhiteY im a noob in programmed lifting. I like the idea of being strong and lean. would using candito after 531 as variation be a good option?
@@Seyiu. hello. If you're not interested in powerlifting or testing your maxes, you don't need candito. Just run some 531 variations, and stay on top of your diet.
@@HooDRidEWhiteY alright bro thank you for your time
I enjoy the 5/3/1 method, however eventually that heavy week becomes too much to recover from. My fix was to run the first 2 weeks as prescribed and then that heavy week is actually split into 2 weeks for recovery purposes. I do not need to add a deload week by doing this because I'm literally only training 2 times a week for those heavy singles then I can add tons of volume in after those heavy weights.
When you say volume, do you mean you hit the compound movement first and then you do hypertrophy afterward?
I believe that my 'Sub-Optimal Position Training' (a conjugate method) is better, but I don't know how to present it to you. What, I believe, makes it better is two highly advanced, effective, and versatile rep schemes, both of which employ a strategy of doing an exercise with a degree of muscular fatigue then, over subsequent workouts reducing the amount of fatigue under which the exercise is done to realize a strength gain from having done it with the greater amount. I'm either deluded or I have created a truly great system of training the can be adapted to any lifting objective powerlifting (which I designed it for), bodybuilding, sport specific training, or just quality of life i.e. being stronger at whatever function you encounter in everyday life.
As a middle age man just going into intermediate lifting, this is something I'd stay away from.
I think the critique was excellent I have to say and all points well made.
Recovery for me is paramount and I'd rather do a little less than a little more. This I feel in the short term may work but I think I'd crash into that wall pretty quick.
Go to Black Iron Beast. There is a huge amount of variation possible with this program
I think the reverse pyramid should be changed by instead of typical 531 program that you did in reverse try doing 8 to 10 reps for the set itself before doing BBB
Personally I'm not a fan of the joker set and FSL. I mean you need more heavy work with the main lifts, but you've already done an AMRAP at that point, which gives you an estimated 1RM, so why not just use a % of that to do backoff sets, like on your 5/5/5+ week, just use 75-80% of the estimated 1RM to do more 5's. Or use the same weight as you did for the AMRAP to do AMRAP-x rep sets, where x could be 2 or 3 or something. I do like Wendler's books though, kind of, at least I learned a lot from them...
Please, make a video about autoregulation programming
For you use this for wrestling?
It looks like you used glass cleaner on the white board. That will take the gloss off. The alcohol based white board cleaner is actually not a scam.
I know this post is older, but holey cow that whiteboard. Is that thing even biologically safe to use?? It looks like it's molding or some shit. WTF?
I never understood joker sets? Can you look a jailhouse strong 8x8 for off season powerlifting ?
Let us say you are running 5/3/1 and you are in your second week, the 3 rep range week. After you have done your final work set with for 3+ reps, you continue to increase the weight by 5% or 10% until you can't hit the desired amount of reps (in this case 3 reps) anymore.
Sounds like RPE training 😀
@@nigelthomas8315 RPE is really just a way of measuring how hard your repetitions were. Joker sets are a part of 531 either way. You can also go for Singles when increasing by 10% each time. It's just a nice way of getting some extra volume and practicing heavy lifting.
I think joker sets could be a way to expose lifters to heavier weights than they are used to
At one point, you say that FSL the pyramid are a substitute for Boring But Big, which, if I understood correctly, is not how it's stated in the book. You do your assistance (e.g. BBB) on top (not instead) of FSL/Joker sets, and count FSL/J as a part of your "main" exercise that day.
I think I have to re-read that part.
Good video though!
He specifically talks about FSL for multiple sets being an alternative to BBB (talks about it causing less severe doms), and talks about FSL multiple sets being an alternative to simply FSL, so by the distributive property.... lol. Even if it wasn't explicit, it makes no sense to follow up a 20 repper at 65% with a 5x10 that is supposed to progress over time. It wouldn't be tenable.
There's many templates, and you don't have to run 4 days. There are 2 and 3 day templates in Beyond.
good vids... ... ...I can't be the fist person to point out that this guy looks like Kyle Kinane, right?
Would a early teen (13) be able to start on this?
Joker sets? Forever? Wendler is 100% a Batman fan.
IMO 531 Forever fills in some of the gaps/complaints you have with Beyond 531
Sure does...
IMO Infinity 531 fills in the gaps from forever
Skeptical at this point, but the comments are pushing me to break down and give it a read. On the other hand, might wait for Infinity lol
@@AlexanderBromley Personally I'm not a massive fan of Forever, but would be interested in your review of it.
@@AlexanderBromley The biggest thing in Forever - beyond the forest of new templates - is Wendler's introduction of the concept of leaders and anchors, which is really just volume driven hypertrophy phases followed by intensification phases (e.g. 2 cycles BBB without PR sets followed by 2 cycles of PR sets and 5x5 supplemental). Fair warning: the book is pretty badly written, it doesn't have a table of contents, there's no glossary, Wendler at certain parts doesn't take the time to explain concepts he's gone over in previous books, etc. There's a lot to bite into, but I'm not sure how much of it will be really training focused vs "Wendler really could have used an editor because I'm not even sure wtf he's trying to say here"
Reviewing the 5/3/1 stuff is a minefield. Wendler has a fierce fanbase and any criticism is met with "but if you do this variation..." But eventually these versions get so far removed from the basic program that they are totally different programs.
My own experience with 5/3/1 was that I got weaker until I added more squat days and added more volume on deadlifts while cutting the weekly AMRAP deadlifts. But at that point it isn't 5/3/1 anymore.
I agree some of the Wendler fans do have some cultish type of behaviour, similar to Westsiders. But I feel like Wendler, over the years, has created more room and more ideas for personal adjustments, like the ones you have made to it. This is also what I went with and I do not really associate a lot with Wendler's fanbase. I just associate with his principles.
I've been lifting for 4 years with strength as the goal. Have never followed an actual program. Just do a lot of heavy triples and some back off sets and then accessories. Just kind of wing it based on how I feel. Am closing in on a 1700 pound total. Is it worth finding a real powerlifting program? I'm hesitant because I'm still progressing.
School of Wendler...
Cult of Wendler? 😉
I tried to but never got much out of Wendler. Love his writing style though.
It's probably me... I'm the A-hole.
I invented a weight lifting system I like to call Ten-Ten-Ten-Ten-Ten, I think it's better branding than Boring-But-Big-Name.
I’m still super confused on 5-3-1 can you just write what to do on each day I get the first part where you do 65 75 85 but the jokr sets and everything else is confusing to me
I didn't get on at all with Texas Method.
I love 531 with 2 x Rest Pause sets after the main lifts followed with the alternate boring but big lift for 5x10 and then 5x10 on 3 assistance exercises usually tri-set..
I'm getting stronger from the 531 and a great pump from the 5x10 sets.
Cloppa2000 it seems so individual. I made good progress with the Texas method but I felt 531 was to a step backward. Not saying your wrong or anything just pointing out the person to person differences.
Ah, there's the next one. I was one of the people who asked for the new versions of 531, so to put my money where my mouth is. Shoot me a message and I could help you with forever.
!!!!!!
the more precise I try to be with my programming, the more I come back to "just lift heavy and rest well". I know serious strength athletes need more than that, but for me, I just can't follow all of this.
Great review of Beyond 5/3/1. I ran it for 8 weeks before my powerlifting meet and saw good results. I would recommend NOT doing a review of Forever 5/3/1. There is something like 50 overall programs in it? Something like that. It wouldn't be worth your time breaking down.
Boring But Big is amazing for me
I've never been a fan of Wendler's hot air.
I also think 5/3/1 Forever is an awful name