2024 Elections | 'If Zuma's MK impact is in KZN, it reflects Zulu tribalism': Gwede Mantashe

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  • National Chairperson of the African National Congress Gwede Mantashe.
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  • @ThobaniDladla-bh2cx
    @ThobaniDladla-bh2cx 2 місяці тому +184

    This guy is drunk😂

    • @NkatekoShibambo-oj2zk
      @NkatekoShibambo-oj2zk 2 місяці тому +6

      He is shem😂😂😂😂

    • @user-pf5yr2dg7f
      @user-pf5yr2dg7f 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂

    • @WinkieMabija
      @WinkieMabija 2 місяці тому

      Better be drunker than be a rapist😅😅

    • @esilevinichronicles4269
      @esilevinichronicles4269 2 місяці тому +1

      That is what the nations who were celebrating the death of the Messiah said, they are drunk when they were telling them the truth in their own tounges

    • @Papito_ZA
      @Papito_ZA 2 місяці тому

      Just old ..

  • @solomonndlovu3293
    @solomonndlovu3293 2 місяці тому +239

    I am a Tsonga speaking person but i voted for MK from Giyani

    • @Thatsong-fr9nq
      @Thatsong-fr9nq 2 місяці тому +15

      They will call you names,dont come back crying

    • @SindisiweSithole-zb4ph
      @SindisiweSithole-zb4ph 2 місяці тому +6

      Call him names? Like which names? Ay Mina I give up ngani ANC

    • @senzomemela1311
      @senzomemela1311 2 місяці тому +12

      ​​@@Thatsong-fr9nq-the Zulu nation love and respect who they are , that is why they love and respect other nations....let all the Kings of all the SA nations unite....as the true leaders of this country....

    • @enmn6001
      @enmn6001 2 місяці тому

      You are terrible liar

    • @user-cu6iy5wt5i
      @user-cu6iy5wt5i 2 місяці тому +5

      Huraaa giyane❤

  • @krisndove6749
    @krisndove6749 2 місяці тому +232

    The time Zuma was in ANC Mr Gwede never said anything about tribalism

    • @masekoromeo7919
      @masekoromeo7919 2 місяці тому +20

      @DumaM-ir7rk Did it touch the nerve about tribalism, Mantashe is on point if you ask many MK voters why they voted for MK they will tell you that because they are Zulu's, and also they were in the ANC because of Zuma, Mina bafo I like the ANC policies they work for the black community even if some of these policies are not implemented correctly. If the people in charge in the government offices were implementing what ANC wants with no corruption, we will be the best country in Africa.

    • @SibusisoMyaka
      @SibusisoMyaka 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@masekoromeo7919so if it's tribalism why are you so itching what's wrong about tribalism

    • @mninawamavuso3816
      @mninawamavuso3816 2 місяці тому

      Tsek… another tribalism is white voting for DA, buuure voting FF-plus..shurup gwede

    • @kaizersuze9000
      @kaizersuze9000 2 місяці тому

      Nope dude ypu have tjat wrong we vote for thing's to work​@DumaM-ir7rk

    • @moetikitso72
      @moetikitso72 2 місяці тому +12

      Exactly. It enjoyed KZN votes through Zuma. Now that Zuma took the votes, he cries tribalism.

  • @thokozaniskosana4784
    @thokozaniskosana4784 2 місяці тому +42

    Bring breathalyzer to check the level of alcohol to Mkhulu😅

  • @thabaninyawo-hv5ge
    @thabaninyawo-hv5ge 2 місяці тому +61

    We as a Zulus we don't care about what Gwede Mantashe has saying

    • @CritikillACClaimed
      @CritikillACClaimed 2 місяці тому

      You guys don't care about anything lol. Remember when you burnt down your own cities, now you complain about unemployment?

    • @HolloMatlala1
      @HolloMatlala1 2 місяці тому

      Correct.... All parties use an influential Political figurehead who resonates with his supporters and unfortunately Zuma is what I would say (only influence terms) a Nelson Mandela to Xhosa people as he is part of the first Group of Black presidents....Problem is who will the nguni people elect after his generation and this is where both Zulu and Xhosa have been failing interms of political succession plans post 2030.And oneday so called rural voters/economy will oneday get the same level of economic opportunities instead of being a trickled down resources from urban outskirts

    • @shonasalver8958
      @shonasalver8958 2 місяці тому

      And the rest of the country don’t care what you think either. Watch KZN become the most bankrupt and looted province in SA.

  • @juniormolefe3046
    @juniormolefe3046 2 місяці тому +286

    I voted MK and I am not Zulu 😂

    • @ShavhiMunyamela
      @ShavhiMunyamela 2 місяці тому

      Yes! You are just stupid

    • @easygoingdevilfan1387
      @easygoingdevilfan1387 2 місяці тому +11

      STOP LYING🤣

    • @shukurumboherwa7191
      @shukurumboherwa7191 2 місяці тому +7

      Lies

    • @joerathokolo5106
      @joerathokolo5106 2 місяці тому +3

      Ngizwe Mncunu will deal with u and Penny Penny decisively 😂

    • @siyasonkembakampela9197
      @siyasonkembakampela9197 2 місяці тому +7

      His point is to do with the fact that MK
      Seem to be big in KZN for now,, so if that trend remain anc is not worried because it will disappear like IFP😅😅😅

  • @zamashoba3049
    @zamashoba3049 2 місяці тому +102

    When Zulus voted for ANC in 2009 it was not Zulu tribalism?

    • @enmn6001
      @enmn6001 2 місяці тому +1

      No when Zulus bored from Mk and IFP are tribalistic

    • @SBL70283
      @SBL70283 2 місяці тому +1

      @@enmn6001
      SisiNgisi sani ngoba sigcina sesingezwanga nokuthi umuntu wakhona ubezama ukuthini nkosiyam 🙀🤣🤣🤣

    • @MasekaMokgohloa
      @MasekaMokgohloa 2 місяці тому

      It was, proof is that they never won KZN before they appointed a Zulu as president

    • @Asanda82
      @Asanda82 2 місяці тому +7

      Exactly Zama, they benefitted from that because the people in KZN always voted around ethnic lines since 1994

    • @jeanpierremzulwini5663
      @jeanpierremzulwini5663 2 місяці тому +1

      That's why Zulus voted for Mandela and Mbeki? ​@@Asanda82

  • @henryvisagie3381
    @henryvisagie3381 2 місяці тому +89

    I voted MK and i am not Zulu,pls Gwede accept that you have failed us and that you have tough competition.

    • @user-ce4dm8wy2u
      @user-ce4dm8wy2u 2 місяці тому

      ❤❤❤ it is hard to accept

    • @awethuzanga1631
      @awethuzanga1631 2 місяці тому

      No mk is not tough part for ANC, it's just one province, the zulu one

    • @kennysonono7798
      @kennysonono7798 2 місяці тому

      Maybe tribalism is not a factor when it comes to the Eastern Cape and Limpopo where Mr Ramaphosa comes from, according to Mr Mantashe; & he is just happy with the election results from those two provinces. Maybe he didn't even come down to the level of his fellow Xhosas whom in their majority are in the Eastern Cape and communicate in a language that they best understand; their preferred South African official language of course

    • @user-ce4dm8wy2u
      @user-ce4dm8wy2u 2 місяці тому

      @@awethuzanga1631 yahlanya wena

    • @awethuzanga1631
      @awethuzanga1631 2 місяці тому

      ​@@user-ce4dm8wy2uusisi dom esimuncu kalok wena, for your ignorance

  • @karabomoyahalive7823
    @karabomoyahalive7823 2 місяці тому +151

    Lol zuma is a one man organization. Hate or love him you can't deny his influence

    • @rosaliamavulu
      @rosaliamavulu 2 місяці тому +5

      And that is giving Gwende hear break 😂😂😂 I wonder why is mbalula 😂😂

    • @molefiramatheko4795
      @molefiramatheko4795 2 місяці тому +1

      Buthelezi also did the same '94 to poor KZN masses but he end up chasing ANC 😂🫣

    • @tumi842
      @tumi842 2 місяці тому +4

      His influence is I KZN and it's purely on tribal lines period!!

    • @tumi842
      @tumi842 2 місяці тому

      ​@DumaM-ir7rkyou say so because his not apologetic to tribal nonsense

    • @SBL70283
      @SBL70283 2 місяці тому

      ​@@rosaliamavulu'
      Why didn't you write your comment in your own language motho wa modimo.
      That's Gwede not Gwende 😂😂😂

  • @user-go4pd6eq9r
    @user-go4pd6eq9r 2 місяці тому +121

    All these years we voted ANC because we believed in it but all of a sudden because now kzn is voting differently we are called a tribal nation. Ay kulungile😔😢

    • @sabelodlamini5590
      @sabelodlamini5590 2 місяці тому +1

      We have always others are just in denial

    • @BongiJewu-rg7np
      @BongiJewu-rg7np 2 місяці тому +15

      KZN vote for ANC increased during the time of Zuma and decreased when he left. You can't rewrite facts.

    • @KhumbulaniFakude-rd2nw
      @KhumbulaniFakude-rd2nw 2 місяці тому +3

      uyahlanya lobaba kade besixhaphaza

    • @sabelodlamini5590
      @sabelodlamini5590 2 місяці тому +3

      So KZN people hate ANC but they don't Zuma, Zuma is from the ANC actually he is still claiming to be the member of the ANC, so what is that if it is not tribalism?

    • @nonnielifestyle6849
      @nonnielifestyle6849 2 місяці тому

      Shame this madala is hurting

  • @BusisiweZondi-ki7vz
    @BusisiweZondi-ki7vz 2 місяці тому +71

    Zyakhala wemkhulu Mantashe hamba uyohlala nabazukulu Mantashe 😂😂😂

    • @sabelodlamini5590
      @sabelodlamini5590 2 місяці тому +2

      he is actually younger than Zuma

    • @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
      @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@sabelodlamini5590But he(Mantashe)is useless,that is the difference

    • @Lawrence-es2uf
      @Lawrence-es2uf 2 місяці тому +1

      From when he has become useless? After he dumped Zuma and supported Ramaphosa neh

    • @user-cu6iy5wt5i
      @user-cu6iy5wt5i 2 місяці тому

      Ngihappy if ngibona imk ikhalisa amadoda kanjena hlangana zulu kulate

  • @user-rq3gs3dr9l
    @user-rq3gs3dr9l 2 місяці тому +29

    I'm voted mk but I'm not Zulu this guy is crazy

  • @tlhogigaethuse3015
    @tlhogigaethuse3015 2 місяці тому +49

    I'm not Zulu and I voted for MK.

    • @sebolai-dd4wo
      @sebolai-dd4wo 2 місяці тому +2

      o motswana....of cos...tswana folk are the most directionless people i know....le tsewa ke phefo...

    • @lwazimjiyako4390
      @lwazimjiyako4390 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@sebolai-dd4wo There you go...you are making a tribalist comment.at tlhogi. Why are saying this about the Tswanas..you are a tribalist a big time.

    • @samueldudley5590
      @samueldudley5590 2 місяці тому

      You voted for the Guptas

    • @nomthimalunga7880
      @nomthimalunga7880 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@samueldudley5590and you voted for Phalaphala farm

    • @tlhogigaethuse3015
      @tlhogigaethuse3015 2 місяці тому

      @@sebolai-dd4wo Mmago o "directionless".

  • @sindyc-gal
    @sindyc-gal 2 місяці тому +98

    Is he under the influence of alcohol or he didn't sleep

  • @ericnqobilengwenya9460
    @ericnqobilengwenya9460 2 місяці тому +13

    Tribalism in reality played a big role in KZN and people must be worried 😫😫😫

  • @fionasibisi884
    @fionasibisi884 2 місяці тому +36

    UNITY IS POWER MY FRIEND

    • @jantjiesnoge1418
      @jantjiesnoge1418 2 місяці тому +1

      Precisely

    • @HolloMatlala1
      @HolloMatlala1 2 місяці тому

      Correct.... All parties use an influential Political figurehead who resonates with his supporters and unfortunately Zuma is what I would say (only influence terms) a Nelson Mandela to Xhosa people as he is part of the first Group of Black presidents....Problem is who will the nguni people elect after his generation and this is where both Zulu and Xhosa have been failing interms of political succession plans post 2030.And oneday so called rural voters/economy will oneday get the same level of economic opportunities instead of being a trickled down resources from urban outskirts

  • @pinkymnyango6036
    @pinkymnyango6036 2 місяці тому +30

    Do you remember the day when Pres Zuma was taken to jail? Do you remember Adv Busisiwe Mkhwebane ? Let me lastly remind you of the one and Only Judge Hlophe when the he was voted out by the Democratic government. Remember...... 😢

    • @jonassavimbiunitaparty6876
      @jonassavimbiunitaparty6876 2 місяці тому +2

      Do GWEDE uya tash tash.Loadshedding,Collapsing of SOE'S,Land issues,The are ripping our mineral resources that's is allowed by the ANC and CODESA political agreements must be review ASAP

  • @mantombimkhwebane335
    @mantombimkhwebane335 2 місяці тому +73

    Then what about DA in the Western Cape is it as well a tribalism

    • @ShavhiMunyamela
      @ShavhiMunyamela 2 місяці тому +4

      And based on what you know about WC, who vote for them there, blacks or whites? Who dominates there?

    • @mfundombava9359
      @mfundombava9359 2 місяці тому +2

      Thank u for that question,I wanted to ask the same question,this old man is drunk

    • @user-oi4tj4pp8q
      @user-oi4tj4pp8q 2 місяці тому +4

      Coloured people are the majority in WC and NC but felt neglected by the ANC a long time ago

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому +5

      Western cape is full of enlightened people. KZN is still dull just like all the rural provinces

    • @sebolai-dd4wo
      @sebolai-dd4wo 2 місяці тому

      RACISM... whites vote for their own.....coloreds do not want blacks hence they vote with whytes...its a fact

  • @piggyblacklistsolver9980
    @piggyblacklistsolver9980 2 місяці тому +85

    Zuma is FreedomFighter he was anc before 1994

    • @molefiramatheko4795
      @molefiramatheko4795 2 місяці тому +2

      🤦IFP came with the same speed of paraffin in '94 they were tribalism surpassed ANC but after people realise they were use started to run back like headless chickens, it's not surprising with zupta too they will run away 😂👻

    • @siyabongajacobdlamini1764
      @siyabongajacobdlamini1764 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@and Zuma helping ANC to win KZN it wasn't tribalism 😂,ikhuzeni lenkukhu esuthi suthi.molefiramatheko4795

    • @nondumisof
      @nondumisof 2 місяці тому

      We are aware of KZN tribalism is too much there they always fight against each other is during time of Independent State.
      Its true what Minister Mantashe is saying tribalism do change.

    • @user-lm8se3dd6j
      @user-lm8se3dd6j 2 місяці тому +3

      Mantashe is tribalistic to the core.
      When Xhosa people voted Mbeki's Cope they were not tribalistic, when Pedi people voted Malena's EFF they were not tribalistic, but as soon some Zulu's vote for the MK they are tribalistic?
      Mantashe is irresponsible and driven by tribalism.
      Zulu people just punished the ANC and especially useless leaders like Mantashe well-done KZN.

    • @piggyblacklistsolver9980
      @piggyblacklistsolver9980 2 місяці тому

      @@molefiramatheko4795 mxm bibo IFP was found by white apartheid trying to course civil war the only relevant in 1992 when buried them

  • @SIBUSISOXULU-vk9po
    @SIBUSISOXULU-vk9po 2 місяці тому +10

    I wish MK can make at least huge numbers so that Mantashe and his friends will swallow their words

  • @user-dh6wt5in8z
    @user-dh6wt5in8z 2 місяці тому +15

    Tht tribalism thing it shows they've never like Zuma..we know tht..even before as a president..they were calling him names..n now tht is following KZN...i know we a strong ..

  • @user-eh5yl6ri5s
    @user-eh5yl6ri5s 2 місяці тому +38

    Sorry cde mantashe I know it's hurting, we all know why Zuma break away from the ANC. Fix yourself, your house,

    • @hgfku-tn6hb
      @hgfku-tn6hb 2 місяці тому +2

      But Zuma remained part of them

  • @impilolifechannel9373
    @impilolifechannel9373 2 місяці тому +29

    Hlanganani ma'Zulu 😂😂😂 Ziyakhala...

  • @titomufuka6732
    @titomufuka6732 2 місяці тому +12

    So much arrogance coming from him. South Africans are tired and ANC is not going to win in KZN and all other metros. Lets watch and see!!!!!!!!!

  • @khanyancoyini1053
    @khanyancoyini1053 2 місяці тому +41

    No chairperson. That is out of order. If we lost votes in KZN, let's figure out how to get them back instead of playing Tribal politics.

    • @WinkieMabija
      @WinkieMabija 2 місяці тому +4

      Mandela nd Mbeki never got votes from KZN so whats yo point or u ar just in denial😮

    • @khanyancoyini1053
      @khanyancoyini1053 2 місяці тому +5

      @@WinkieMabija You are basing this based on what? The Premiership of KZN was held by the ANC since 1994.
      I am against the decision our brothers and sisters in KZN have made. But that is how they feel. And if we are a movement of the people, we try to convince them that they made a mistake.
      We don't invoke tribalism. That gets us nowhere.

    • @WinkieMabija
      @WinkieMabija 2 місяці тому +4

      @@khanyancoyini1053 Aa bro ANC won KZN when Zuma was running 4 presidents so even now we ar going 2 loose KZN nd other fact is Zulus ar proudly tribalist nd they needed 2be told abt that lts very backwards that's why they ar called omangubane in some areas🤞

    • @user-dh6wt5in8z
      @user-dh6wt5in8z 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@WinkieMabijawhy don't you focus on wht went wrong under anc tht makes poeple to become tribalism..they also show tribalism the way they treated Zuma even before he was a president.even so we did vote for Mandela.mbeki Ramaposa
      If you look at top six..there's no Zulu person bt we never complain as u say we a tribalism n Zuma when he went to exile,serve 10yrs.he never said he's fighting for Zulus..he said he was fighting for the country..tht tribalism thing is your thinking tht won't takes us anywhere

    • @nelisiwezondi8461
      @nelisiwezondi8461 2 місяці тому

      People at his level still don’t understand the concept of democracy

  • @ntfubadlamini7128
    @ntfubadlamini7128 2 місяці тому +44

    Mantashe utterances says Kwazulu Natal is an independent state and he is xenophobic

    • @nonnielifestyle6849
      @nonnielifestyle6849 2 місяці тому +5

      He's a tribalist

    • @akho2304
      @akho2304 2 місяці тому +2

      This is the very reason these guys should be removed, and to be honest they personalised matters with Zuma so much that the whole MK vote is a retaliation

    • @SindisiweSithole-zb4ph
      @SindisiweSithole-zb4ph 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes he is tribalist

    • @user-ny5nt2gb4b
      @user-ny5nt2gb4b 2 місяці тому

      Kodwa mkhulu mantasge please awukakabi imholi uma usakhuluma ngaloluhlobo😂😢

  • @siphamandlaernest1366
    @siphamandlaernest1366 2 місяці тому +18

    I find Mantashe utterance as long over hatred not for Zuma but all Zulu people

  • @tebogotshabalala9041
    @tebogotshabalala9041 2 місяці тому +67

    there are non Zulu's who voted for MK Party , is it also a sign of TRIBALISM according to Gwede Mantashe ? counting is NOT yet over and he is already sounding like a sore loser

    • @mfundombava9359
      @mfundombava9359 2 місяці тому +4

      I think he is drunk

    • @shukurumboherwa7191
      @shukurumboherwa7191 2 місяці тому

      Tribalism is dangerous like apartheid

    • @lethokuhlemazinyo348
      @lethokuhlemazinyo348 2 місяці тому +5

      most of them have chest pains they can't hide it

    • @phumlaminsele
      @phumlaminsele 2 місяці тому +2

      akafuseke ke le

    • @MzwandileBosch
      @MzwandileBosch 2 місяці тому

      I said take mantashe to emagezeni bhofolo kokwabo otyiswa ihhokhwe athandazele.mybe her wife empted tender toilet on the home.

  • @paulantoniolesaoana9250
    @paulantoniolesaoana9250 2 місяці тому +5

    The man had some few glasses of whiskey before coming to the results centre 😂😂😂

    • @sasha8664
      @sasha8664 2 місяці тому

      Black Label Beer😂

  • @samuellesutha5510
    @samuellesutha5510 2 місяці тому +15

    Thank you Msholozi!

  • @donaldchikudo1521
    @donaldchikudo1521 2 місяці тому +23

    Chest pains

  • @leonardojordyn4864
    @leonardojordyn4864 2 місяці тому +36

    They should have never taken Zuma to prison for a useless case...why he thinks zulu people don't think for themselves

    • @ShavhiMunyamela
      @ShavhiMunyamela 2 місяці тому +9

      There lies the problem! Zuma was not arrested because he was zulu, so why is it zulus who thinks that he should've not gone to jail?

    • @thapelohonest7019
      @thapelohonest7019 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ShavhiMunyamelawat was he arrested for if you may tell me Matatshe he mustn't play dirty we are not all stupid.white people they kept on voting DA he never brought such allegations

    • @oseredavis9771
      @oseredavis9771 2 місяці тому +4

      Was Zuma arrested because he's a Zulu?🤔

    • @rosaliamavulu
      @rosaliamavulu 2 місяці тому +3

      The consequences of taking Msholozi to prison is giving the ANC a hard time.

    • @WinkieMabija
      @WinkieMabija 2 місяці тому

      If u blv ths nonsense u just wrote here l blv u have yo brain on your back side really🤞

  • @DUMISANIMTSHIPULA
    @DUMISANIMTSHIPULA 2 місяці тому +20

    I wonder how all the Zulus who voted for ANC feels about this disturbing zulu nationalist from Mantashe

    • @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
      @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx 2 місяці тому +2

      Bro,you can say that again

    • @SboneloGonya-ry2dk
      @SboneloGonya-ry2dk 2 місяці тому

      😡

    • @samkefuneka5073
      @samkefuneka5073 2 місяці тому

      He s trying to own anc indirectly to say zulus back to yr zulu, u dont nelong to anc..mantashe is currently a shame to the country

  • @SLTVC-xe2re
    @SLTVC-xe2re 2 місяці тому +17

    Why always an issue about KZN why the other Provinces are doing the same and no one is saying anything. So tribalism is only when its KZN?

    • @sebolai-dd4wo
      @sebolai-dd4wo 2 місяці тому +5

      nah, you guys are tribalists...

    • @lwazimjiyako4390
      @lwazimjiyako4390 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@sebolai-dd4wo JZ formed a party, he did not say it must be joined by the Zulus. Why other ethnic people are not joining it. Are they not allowed?

    • @sebolai-dd4wo
      @sebolai-dd4wo 2 місяці тому

      @@lwazimjiyako4390 every province should form their own tribal parties...its a tribal thing, whether you like to admit it or not

    • @QinisoMncwango-qi2pq
      @QinisoMncwango-qi2pq 2 місяці тому +1

      Uqinisile lapho lama xhosa aphethwe ukusa

    • @SBL70283
      @SBL70283 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@QinisoMncwango-qi2pq
      If kuyaphatha ukusa kwaqala ngani niseyiNKatha kaZulu niwabulala amaXhosa nihlangene namabhulu.

  • @fanamlawuli6761
    @fanamlawuli6761 2 місяці тому +13

    I told the comrades, that we(MK) are going to break the ANC, what are they saying now? Still disrespecting a whole tribe, kulungile, the punishment will continue till they learn ukuthi "Baba"

    • @nomvulalangasiki3927
      @nomvulalangasiki3927 2 місяці тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Kyle-mi5vn
      @Kyle-mi5vn 2 місяці тому +2

      Make the anc to kneel down before its voters....the anc need to fear us

  • @zanelentuli5130
    @zanelentuli5130 2 місяці тому +8

    Zulus will confuse you broe🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-cv4ie7ji2h
    @user-cv4ie7ji2h 2 місяці тому +22

    Gwede must stop labelling KZN as tribalism , when mk as political party winning at KZN but if ANC winning in CE is not tribalism what nonsense does he talking about, it is clear that mantashe don't like Zulu people why he describe mk or Zuma as tribalism .. it is a insult in this democracy actually he is perpetrating tribalism . Gwede must apologize to the KZN people and people of South Africa.

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому +3

      2005 the whole KZN rallied behind Zuma with the banners saying 100%zulu boy

    • @shonasalver8958
      @shonasalver8958 2 місяці тому

      Ofcourse it is tribalism. Remember the riots in 2021 in KZN when Zuma was removed as President and jailed ??
      The MK is nothing more than the former Zuma faction of the ANC that’s why the KZN have transferred their votes from the ANC to the MK.

  • @BongimpiloZondi
    @BongimpiloZondi 2 місяці тому +7

    ANC is very confused.

  • @sammahlangu6918
    @sammahlangu6918 2 місяці тому +7

    I did voted for MK where is tribalism ?

  • @pulane2651
    @pulane2651 2 місяці тому +7

    The ANC has really disappointed the south Africa

  • @user-og4pk6qz4r
    @user-og4pk6qz4r 2 місяці тому +6

    They benefited from zuma in kzn for years

  • @ntandoyenkosi3213
    @ntandoyenkosi3213 2 місяці тому +6

    When is Gwede and his old age comrades going on pension.. they're all useless. Sesibongile amasela!

  • @Mantaray911
    @Mantaray911 2 місяці тому +1

    I am a white Zulu from Transkei but I voted for MK.

  • @mtetelelimrwetyana2002
    @mtetelelimrwetyana2002 2 місяці тому +17

    They were busy with Hamas and hating Zuma and Israel

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому

      Then wmc called Israel started to fund Zuma and it's agency(mossad) is carrying out espionage against Ramaphoria and Zuma is directing those covert operations

  • @zumkwana101
    @zumkwana101 2 місяці тому +7

    Nonsense what is Gwede is saying. Who said Zuma wanted to own the ANC??

  • @siyandacele9880
    @siyandacele9880 2 місяці тому +21

    Where is Fikile Bhalula

  • @EphraimSiduka
    @EphraimSiduka 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm a Xhosa voted MK Viva ZUMA

  • @nelisiwezondi8461
    @nelisiwezondi8461 2 місяці тому +6

    People have spoken baba. They were not forced. Just as those who voted for you were not forced. Stop being silly😊

  • @Jelesh856
    @Jelesh856 2 місяці тому +14

    Wow! the comments from this old man are very shameful especially coming from a black person ,it brings division I'm disappointed on this man , the ANC should accept that they lost t kzn to MK. I'm not Zulu but I applaud the Zulu nation for taking control of their province.

    • @user-eg5rw5lj8o
      @user-eg5rw5lj8o 2 місяці тому +2

      I like your comments I'm zulu but I didn't voted for mk ,mk it for everyone like eff,malema is pedi guy but here in kzn they love him

    • @luckymaselesele9109
      @luckymaselesele9109 2 місяці тому +1

      When you says Zulus for taking control of thier province..Whats the meaning of that?

    • @Jelesh856
      @Jelesh856 2 місяці тому

      @@luckymaselesele9109 I mean for choosing a leader they want to lead them in their province.

    • @Jelesh856
      @Jelesh856 2 місяці тому

      @@user-eg5rw5lj8o You correct.

    • @ttgooljc6154
      @ttgooljc6154 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@user-eg5rw5lj8otrue. I'm Zulu but I like Malema's ideas... When he speaks I don't even remember what ethnicity he is... I just know he's African and South African and that's enough...

  • @bukelwamdleleni8247
    @bukelwamdleleni8247 2 місяці тому +9

    He will continued MK Viva .ushushu butywala xhego ndini.unxilile ngoku

  • @ontlametsetholwethu4990
    @ontlametsetholwethu4990 2 місяці тому +4

    Chest pains + anger = Mantashe🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lancencube5205
    @lancencube5205 2 місяці тому +5

    If its tribalism why were the votes not going toIFP pr Mkhize?

  • @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
    @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx 2 місяці тому +8

    When we were voting for the ANC you never called us tribalists now that we are changing the game we have turned to tribalists....double standards is mindblowing

  • @Angel-mr2qq
    @Angel-mr2qq 2 місяці тому +5

    The founding president of ANC JL Dube was zulu asingakhohlwa ilokho and ANC sayinika ithuba kodwa yadlala ngalo, neMK mayenza the same sizoyivota out

  • @KhulekaniZondi
    @KhulekaniZondi 2 місяці тому +2

    Iam from KZN, its true tribal politics dominates here over logic and reason, pre 1994 and after 94 KZN was led by IFP( a Zulu tribalism party). People who are not familiar with KZN politics think, that tribal politics mentality died with IFP, it didnt Zuma knows about that mentality and he uses it. Even during his first presidential campaign Tribilism slogans and mentality was there. Unfortunately the ANC dint see problem with that at the time cause it was beneficial to them. Now it comes back to haunt them😂

  • @Joe-sm7lm
    @Joe-sm7lm 2 місяці тому +1

    The ANC needs new blood with fresh ideas. People like Mantashe must GO!

  • @mthobisimagwaza2346
    @mthobisimagwaza2346 2 місяці тому +7

    Zimbongolo mkhanqala ye ANC IZImbongolo

  • @MzwandileBosch
    @MzwandileBosch 2 місяці тому +10

    Bring alcohol tester to see if mantashe not drunk.he smell drunk on his comment

    • @lylejd1609
      @lylejd1609 2 місяці тому

      Best comment😂😂

  • @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
    @SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx 2 місяці тому +2

    Unfortunately this is the calibre of leaders we have,leaders who just talk carelessly and who never think of the consequences of their utterances in the public.Gwede is comfortably calling Zulu people tribalists...really what is that coming from a seasoned leader like him?

  • @MveloDayi-ly8sv
    @MveloDayi-ly8sv 2 місяці тому +2

    This Gwede Mantashe opinion on election results as Zulu tribalism in KZN is purely nonsense, It's just the last kick of a dying horse, he knows very well the truth that led to this, Are his hypocratic actions by Mbalula Ramaphosa and him, example when they were dissolving the veterans organisation they should have bare it in mind that those people were not only military veterans only but political influenced too,

  • @anthonygurirab8268
    @anthonygurirab8268 2 місяці тому +5

    Such a weak statement. But the time KZN voted ANC, they were not tribalists.

  • @senzoinnocent1604
    @senzoinnocent1604 2 місяці тому +3

    Meaning all ANC leaders in in kzn also tribalism 💚🖤💚🖤💚✊

  • @BenNjapha
    @BenNjapha 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm a Zulu but I am not a tribalist and my political party MK is for everyone, so stop lying Mr Gwede Mantashe.🎉😢😂

  • @vukilengcobo4932
    @vukilengcobo4932 2 місяці тому +2

    This old man is rude 💔

  • @Mrinvestor273
    @Mrinvestor273 2 місяці тому +2

    This is a man scared 😱

  • @juniormolefe3046
    @juniormolefe3046 2 місяці тому +10

    Sick of mantashing arrogance 😂when us afriforum taking him to trial 😂

  • @KwaMshenguVille
    @KwaMshenguVille 2 місяці тому

    There's too much tribalism within the ANC since Ramaphosa took over. Limpopo will tell you this is not a Zulu party. We were treated like bad.

  • @nonnielifestyle6849
    @nonnielifestyle6849 2 місяці тому +2

    The hate for amaZulu and Zuma is South Africa is getting out of hand. Hiw about VF, the Coloured party and ither enthnic politcan parties? I feel sorry dorbthose

  • @willow0279
    @willow0279 2 місяці тому +5

    Indian person here who voted MK. It's not tribalism. Its wanting change ❤

  • @MissSlenda
    @MissSlenda 2 місяці тому +2

    The stress is catching up with him and deciding to drink himself drunk . I pray for a miracle for the ANC to lose this big metros because, yhoo, we will never hear the end. Fikile Mbalula will hurt my ears bragging until the next elections we wont hear the end of him and ANC

  • @mphothulo7929
    @mphothulo7929 2 місяці тому +1

    Mbeki was sent to play chess in KZN,he failed as Mabhida hunted him😂😂😂

  • @dothadance1
    @dothadance1 2 місяці тому +1

    To the people who are saying MK is not tribalism. Who are you fooling?

    • @lwazimjiyako4390
      @lwazimjiyako4390 2 місяці тому

      What makes it a tribalist party? Are you saying people who are not Zulus are not allowed to join the party?

    • @dothadance1
      @dothadance1 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lwazimjiyako4390 Bro please. Come on. It's a joke to even try to deny this with a question that fishes for a debate. It's a joke. It's obvious even to a first grader.

  • @user-og4pk6qz4r
    @user-og4pk6qz4r 2 місяці тому +2

    he looked angry😢

  • @JETHROTSHABALALA
    @JETHROTSHABALALA 2 місяці тому +2

    Why manthashe does not primind mnangwagwa about shona tribalism

  • @enmn6001
    @enmn6001 2 місяці тому +1

    Mk is tribalistic party that's a fact is not different from IFP.. We are not surprised

  • @moosangwenya
    @moosangwenya 2 місяці тому

    Leave the Zulu nation alone. The Zulu people have shown unity and a sound mind of the situation. I am Swati and I love their spirit.

  • @MalvernMlambo
    @MalvernMlambo 2 місяці тому +3

    Mr Zuma is not tribalism no no no no no and zulu are not tribalits

  • @nelisiwezondi8461
    @nelisiwezondi8461 2 місяці тому +2

    People have spoken Ntashi

  • @ngobesengobese2059
    @ngobesengobese2059 2 місяці тому

    If Anc win in KZN they call its democracy but if they loose they say its tribalism

  • @Shaka-Spear
    @Shaka-Spear 2 місяці тому +1

    In the intricate tapestry of South Africa's diverse cultural landscape, a lamentable shadow looms over the interactions between the Xhosa and Zulu peoples. The echoes of tribalism reverberate through the corridors of prejudice, as some Xhosa individuals, ensconced in their perceived superiority, cast disdainful glances upon their Zulu counterparts and other tribes. Their ears, deafened by the echoes of tradition and the lingering presence of figures like Gwede Mantashe within the ANC, remain closed to the harmonious symphony of unity and understanding.
    In their haughty reverie, they unwittingly shackle themselves to a narrow-minded worldview, one that fails to recognize the brilliance and potential of their own Xhosa leaders. Their arrogance, a veil woven from the threads of ignorance, obscures the path to enlightenment and progress. The misguided belief in the inherent superiority bestowed by circumcision blinds them to the myriad possibilities that lie beyond the confines of their limited perspective.
    Thus, trapped in the suffocating embrace of their own conceit, they languish in a state of intellectual dormancy, unable to transcend the darkness of ignorance that envelops them. It is only through a collective awakening, a shedding of the shackles of tribalism and elitism, that true enlightenment and progress can be achieved for all.

  • @mpilonhlemkhize6474
    @mpilonhlemkhize6474 2 місяці тому +3

    I guess we have "racism" in WC according mkhulu uGwede.What do we have then in the EC? 😅

    • @SBL70283
      @SBL70283 2 місяці тому

      Wazewancenga da.

  • @agenech1239
    @agenech1239 2 місяці тому +6

    what about anc losing Western Cape tribalism?

  • @zanelmthombeni8587
    @zanelmthombeni8587 2 місяці тому

    I’m Tsonga from Mpumalanga I voted MK

  • @philazondi-hk3vl
    @philazondi-hk3vl 2 місяці тому

    Zulu Tribalism??? This man needed breathlizer . This is * A WORLD FIRST CLASS culture but we are proud to be Zulus at the same time. Zuma proved ANC wrong. Where was Zulu Tribalism for 30 years of ANC in KZN?

  • @nhlanhladlamini198
    @nhlanhladlamini198 2 місяці тому +2

    Hellen Zille, Steenhuizen and the Western Cape = TRIBALISM😅. Hhaybo😅😅

    • @sebolai-dd4wo
      @sebolai-dd4wo 2 місяці тому

      racism...whites only vote fro their own...just like orania doesnt allow any blacks to reside there...

  • @samkunene7521
    @samkunene7521 2 місяці тому +5

    ANC was also formed by the Zulus. Luthuli , Dube , Xuma.,

    • @mandlaveyi3411
      @mandlaveyi3411 2 місяці тому +2

      r u sure?

    • @senzomemela1311
      @senzomemela1311 2 місяці тому +4

      ​​@@mandlaveyi3411Go read books....

    • @mandlaveyi3411
      @mandlaveyi3411 2 місяці тому

      @@senzomemela1311 no I was just asking Senzo mntakwethu

    • @dothadance1
      @dothadance1 2 місяці тому

      It doesn't take away from the fact that Zulus are tribalists who hate anything that is not Zulu.

    • @nomthimalunga7880
      @nomthimalunga7880 2 місяці тому

      ​@@mandlaveyi3411lol so sad 😂😂😂 you don't even know that the founder of the ANC is a Zulu man, the first president of the ANC John Langalibalele Dube. The ANC began in Natal Baba😂😂😂. YOU will learn that Zulu's are not followers, they are leaders and you can't remove that from their DNA😂😂😂😂

  • @Itssophie277
    @Itssophie277 2 місяці тому

    I'm tswana and voted for mk, what is this Zulu nationalism?

  • @matshwenyegomabusha2793
    @matshwenyegomabusha2793 2 місяці тому

    Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana we support president Jacob zuma mk party 2024

  • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
    @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому +3

    If Ramaphoria was a Zulu man, KZN was gonna give ANC a premiership

  • @lawrencelekgowane4754
    @lawrencelekgowane4754 2 місяці тому +3

    Gwende must first treat this out of control belly..How do you expect us to entrust him with power when he can't manage his own health?
    Frustrated G is a concern man

  • @menzidlamini3434
    @menzidlamini3434 2 місяці тому

    Cry Mantashe Cry, We are In this mess because of you for defending and advised Cyril to stay.

  • @sizwekhumalo3709
    @sizwekhumalo3709 2 місяці тому +2

    True democracy happening in KZN

    • @sithulakhumalo9012
      @sithulakhumalo9012 2 місяці тому +1

      The ANC members in KZN must realise that they are being used.Here is their leader talking about Zulu tribalism because anc has lost KZN.

  • @bhekisibiya917
    @bhekisibiya917 2 місяці тому +2

    i) When Mandela won KZN, no one mentioned the word "tribalism".
    ii) When Mbeki won KZN over IFP, no one talked about "tribalism".
    iii) When Ramaphosa won KZN over IFP, no one talked about "tribalism".
    iv) today the ANC is defeated by the Mk then then the ANC is introducing the word "tribalism" to excuse their poor leadership and their lack of technical understanding of the complex issues.
    They are lazy to comprehend complex and diverse political spectrum. They easily jump and use tribal card.
    It is very confusing because the very ANC is using racist argument to pigeon hole black people that they must vote the ANC if they are not they are not racist but tribalism

    • @SizweMsibi-ur1xm
      @SizweMsibi-ur1xm 2 місяці тому +3

      Mandela and Mbheki Never won KZN PAPA

    • @Lawrence-es2uf
      @Lawrence-es2uf 2 місяці тому +2

      Mandela never won KZN bro

    • @SBL70283
      @SBL70283 2 місяці тому +1

      Can we really call it defeat,your measurement being the KZN province ONLY?
      Think again and think deeper.

    • @MichaelShumi-jl8hw
      @MichaelShumi-jl8hw 2 місяці тому

      Unamanga zange utata wethu sonke awine kwawina ubuthelezi I ANC ifumene ikzn ngexesha uZuma eba yi President amanani enyuka

    • @15th_century
      @15th_century 2 місяці тому

      Ngizwe's words was proven right Zulu people are tribalists

  • @sduduzonkosi2909
    @sduduzonkosi2909 2 місяці тому +6

    This is not about zulu it's Sarvice delivery

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому

      Zuma was the president under ANC but he did bagroll for KZN

  • @zukisasolo2144
    @zukisasolo2144 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree I think Zulu people voted Zuma in tribal lines because MK not leading in other provinces, but it's only KZN we lost so it's clear Zuma decampaign against ANC was also influenced by tribal lines

    • @sylviankomo3525
      @sylviankomo3525 2 місяці тому

      It's because ANC spoiled yr ballot papers and other provinces. DIDN'T U HEAR THAT?

  • @user-cd9wy8qn7f
    @user-cd9wy8qn7f 2 місяці тому +1

    They were not supposed to incarcerate Mr Zuma for they made sure that Wouter Basson go free... Am just saying. They angered the people

  • @lizwimchunu7234
    @lizwimchunu7234 2 місяці тому +4

    The tribalist card has no value anymore

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому

      It's got value for Zuma

    • @sebolai-dd4wo
      @sebolai-dd4wo 2 місяці тому

      it will have value once other tribes wake the fck up...and realise what is going on

    • @lwazimjiyako4390
      @lwazimjiyako4390 2 місяці тому

      ​@@user-ww5qw8jd3bDid JZ asked only Zulus to join MK?

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 2 місяці тому

      @@lwazimjiyako4390 yes

    • @lwazimjiyako4390
      @lwazimjiyako4390 2 місяці тому

      @@user-ww5qw8jd3b give us a proof...

  • @ThiyoNgcobo
    @ThiyoNgcobo 2 місяці тому +2

    The Zulu Kingdom awaits....we will govern ourselves with our King..jst like Western Cape

  • @Norma-ot8fv
    @Norma-ot8fv 2 місяці тому

    This is sad honestly. If you love your tribe and yourself you are a tribalist. Mantashe is the tribalist at heart.. its pathetic

  • @matruh394
    @matruh394 2 місяці тому

    I'm proud to be Zulu and voted for MK 💚🖤 and from KZN