@@Slayyyaphine >insulting me based on who I'm subscribed to 1. that's a classy ad hominem. 2. I don't watch their vids anymore. I forgot I was even subscribed to them.
Ironic he’s insisting that OP’s wife be more like Fluttershy considering the character’s entire arc was about conquering her anxiety, becoming more social, and even learning to stand up for herself. In later seasons, she’s one of the more assertive characters in the show. So, yeah, even his own pony crush doesn’t fit his demands.
If you connect the dots it paints a horrible picture of an incel who is fantasizing about having an insecure, anxious woman he can easily gaslight and manipulate.
I liked one line in their Knives Out episode (ok, no. I liked everything in their Knives Out episode, but this line really stood out to me): "Being nice is about appearances, being kind is about what's right" and "Nice doesn't cost you anything". They had debunked the Nice guy even before Megamind.
The Space Whale conspiracy being true made me laugh. Ya know, it just reinforces that insanely sage saying: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."
I didn’t expect it. I tuned out for a moment because I was doing something and I hear “her skin turns a dark blue, slowly bulging and inflating” and I do a double take, and go back and rewind it wondering if I really just heard that. It’s those kinds of moments that I wish for myself in dnd 💀
Not only did it make me laugh, I am surprised the dwarf player was faulted for doing this. It makes perfect sense for his character to stick to the theory and be delusional enough to think he can solve the problem with one shot. The real problem is the other party members and DM not expecting this - although maybe the dwarf player should have given them some clue or ask them to roll insight or clarify he was up to something by asking the DM to accept a Deception roll.
As somebody from Northern Ireland, with family who were directly involved in the troubles, let’s just say that I very sharply inhaled when I heard that line
God, everytime someone is like “I couldn’t believe this wasn’t a trollpost”, I just want to send screenshot after screenshot of guys *exactly like this* ending up in my DMs
way too many people spent too much time on r/thathappned and then decided that anything that's slightly unlikely or even just out of their own experiences must be fake
but like, this is dnd are there barbarian skills that take more than one turn and can't be cancelled? I guess the cleric covers both the barbarian and the enemy but shouldn't it still damage the enemy?
My own experiences have taught me that even if this was a trollpost, someone out there probably did something similar enough to warrant the story anyway.
Helping loved ones overcome mental illness is "making them something they're not"? So by this guy's logic, I should stop trying to manage my depression because "YoU'Re peRFecT thE WAy yoU ARe!!" Yeah alright, I'll just spiral into increasingly bleak thoughts and hopelessness again. Thanks, chief.
Fwiw, as a fellow depressed person, I'd like to offer something that helped me. Maybe you're not "perfect", but, you never will be. Perfect is an illusion. You ARE *good enough* though, even now. Even when you're struggling hardest. Especially then! You can always be better, you can always grow and improve, and trying to is absolutely a worthwhile pursuit. Just try to remember; if you are worth anything later, then you are worth something now.
That guy was a predator, he viewed insecurity, anxiety and likely depression that goes hand in hand with it as an attractive trait because a partner with that trait would *need* him and his validation and support too much to look beneath the surface. This guy is likely an incel as well, and I get the feeling that even if or when his predatory behaviour works the relationship would likely dissolve or deteriorate very quickly. He wouldn't have the patience to actually put up with a partner that needed him in the way he drools about in his mind and would project the frustration of that situation back onto the partner. 'Nice Guy' isn't unique in this and the sad thing is that under the right circumstances it does work and people who are lonely and vulnerable get taken advantage of. People with mental illness, like you, like me, need to stick together, and that's why communal games like DnD are so important, even if it's online. Having a group that can look out for someone who isn't currently capable of advocating for themselves saves so many lives in so many little ways, and can help that person move towards recognising their own self value and their own right to not have to rely on necrotising pestilence dressing up as a human for any measure of their purpose or worth as a living being.
Honestly, that mindset of "you're perfect the way you are" is what has led to so much awful in society. No one takes responsibility anymore because X. No one bothers to have common decency anymore because X, why self censor your authentic self? (All used facetiously fyi, "no one" is not literal.) No one tries to improve themself because acceptance means you're fine in stagnation. This mindset is what changed the Body Positivity movement, all body types are beautiful (not obesity, but pears/ apples/ hourglass/ skin color/ hair texture/ etc.), into a demand to never ridicule/ get exasperated by/ just deal with extremely overweight people breakings seats and making airplanes impossible. Look, I'm overweight, my self worth isn't tied to how others see me, maybe try that instead of demanding others kowtow to your self centered beliefs??? Be it the child who never learns how to try something they're not good at to improve or the adult who refuses to compromise because they don't need to, this mindset is PURE toxicity. No one is perfect. No one should be seeking group acceptance. What you should be seeking and working on is learning how to love yourself, which means being able to set goals, discipline, change approaches and qualities and mindsets, etc. It's hard work, but it's far better than being a spoiled brat demanding tolerance when you give none in return.
What's with all these creeps simping for characters that are meek and shy? Oh I know. Reliance. These dudes want a woman who is emotionally dependent on them because there is no way a woman would love them otherwise. Pathetic.
i think its more about the power. someone who is emotionally dependent is also very easily manipulated, more often than not. he just wanted to manipulate her and have her to himself.
@@stellar2926 Power and reliance are strongly related here. Reliance is a power dynamic. You didn't refute anything you just stated it a different way. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
To be fair, there’s nothing wrong with being like fluttershy. Mostly because she didn’t stay meek and timid. She’s still quiet and soft spoken, but she will speak up. Its character growth and what not.
I loved the character dynamic of Rainbow trying to push Fluttershy’s limits in order for her to be more confident. As a guy who does have anxiety I kinda wish I had a friend like that
Due to the fact that that dude seemed to know nothing about how Fluttershy got a lot stronger, more confident and independent as the series progressed, something tells me he's not actually a pony fan, but just happened to find a character on the internet that could fulfill his sick need to find someone insecure to be completely dependent on him, and a character from an all-ages show who starts off very overdone in that aspect was probably just an unfortunately easy target for him to latch onto.
@@plumtucker9514 Their loss. Admittedly, Starlight Glimmer being the 6th ranger kinda made a bad shift, in my opinion. Her being as powerful as she needed to be just smacked of laziness, which I felt was very unfortunate in a show that had some fairly good writing to that point. There were many flawed episode, but most are still watchable. I also felt it was an unfortunate choice because Starlight had made for a cunning, underpowered villain when she debuted. She couldn't just be beam-spammed with the rainbow power, she had to be defeated by other means. The Mane6 had to be... smart.
4:14 Never tell an Irish person how to feel about the troubles, or any other event in irish history with similar political issues (The 1916 rising, the civil war etc) I'm surprised that guys friend didn't punch him as soon as the "niceguy" even opened his mouth, cause I sure as hell would have.
Id have socked him when he started telling me how to treat my fiance. I dont like violence used for words but some things just need to be stopped where they start
They think they are claiming a mathematical victory. "If we normalize women sleeping with everyone this means they will also sleep with me!" Skipping over the simple fact even in such a world they would not be touched by women with a 20 foot pole.
Oh, they get women. Just not the ones they want. They get the left overs. The land whales who got fat, has a kid/kids with multiple men (Chad's and Tyrone's kids), the wrong side of 30, with massive debt, and baggage. They wife these single mothers up not understanding that they're just a meal ticket.
@@smithsmith1956 its not even that, the thing is that a Male feminist is repulsive to women because they are trying to appeal to them in a slimy way, they instead of approaching whit courage they instead want to sneakily and slowly wither down her defences and maybe one day she will be extremelly drunk and he will abuse that situation, i prefer being a "Jackass" than a male feminist, at least you have dignity.
"The Troubles"... which were also a part of the Eight Hundred Years. That "Nice Guy" CLEARLY had ZERO Irish ancestry because NO ONE who actually knows about Irish history would EVER make light of what happened between the 12th and 20th Centuries.
Not even 20th century, it’s still going on into the 21st. Effigy’s of Catholics are still being burned, people are still fighting each other over religion, politics are at a standstill due to sectarianism and we live in constant fear of it getting worse
@@johnnyferalcat896 it’s very complicated to explain in a small comment section, but it was a conflict between catholic republicans and Protestant unionists in Ireland. There was a lot of inequality between Catholics and Protestants, and there was also a thing called Gerrymandering going on which I don’t fully understand but it’s basically moving voting borders and stuff to make sure the political party that one group wants gets voted in no matter what, which basically meant that republicans had zero chance of a Republican Party majority. Basically the troubles started as Catholics trying to gain equality, but when the conflict started it became messy and brutal. There were many paramilitary groups, such as the IRA (Irish Republican Army) and the UDF (Ulster defence force). These paramilitary groups committed atrocities, killing each other and innocents. Even today in Northern Ireland there are arguments happening about wether or not people should be prosecuted for crimes committed during the troubles. Eventually the Good Friday Agreement was signed, which arguably saw the end to the worst of the troubles. I’d recommend reading about it because it’s a complex series of events that can’t be summed up with enough nuance in one comment. Long story short, we’re still experiencing the aftermaths of the troubles in the country today. Effigy’s of Catholics are being burned in bonfires, the government is effectively in standstill, and there is constant back and forth that goes nowhere. Even Biden has commented on the current unrest in the country.
@@caoimhedoesstuff9293 great explanation Caoimhe, I'm from Dublin btw and your comment was summed up really well from the limited space of a YT comment, especially for such a nuanced subject
Yeah. Even here in the U.S the “troubles” followed Irish immigrants and their descendants. I have been told by my mother that when my great grandfather was a boy his mother made him wear orange on Sant Patrick’s Day. He would get beaten up by the boys at the Catholic school he had to walk past.
@@CritCrab you make a fair request but, I fear you must realize something important your lordship... this is the internet. You were doomed the second you spoke the word.
That's not a red flag that's a GIANT Mountain of red flags... My grandparents and mother were effected by the troubles (they were from the north) & moved to the Republic of Ireland. The troubles was a really fucked up time even when it was over. I am thankful my family didn't lose anyone very close but it was a close call a few times, and even then there was constant harassment when they moved to the south to escape the troubles because they were from the north. It was a nightmare and destroyed so many lives.
You know, I agree that marriage is archaic, but only in the legal respect (and more based around the reluctance to legitimize non-married partnerships than marriage itself); from a cultural or social level, it varies massively from place-to-place, but somehow I doubt that this guy has done enough research to form his own opinion. Pretty sure he just wants to bully girls into forming a "harem", but is too boneheaded to realize that you need to actually, you know, have girls who *_like_* you before you've got any chance of having a monogamous relationship, much less a polyamorous one-something which the majority of people are uncomfortable with, for obvious reasons.
Marriage is failing because guys are tired of signing the contract that rewards a women when she breaks it and punishes him, even if she's the sole reason the contract broke. She cheats, she divorces, shes awarded half of everything he's ever worked for and now he has to pay her alimony, monthly checks. No sane guy wants that.
Yeah, marriage is an outdated concept. But that does not mean it’s an invalid option. If people want to get married that’s fine. If people don’t want to get married, also fine. If people, either married or unmarried, want to have a poly or monogamous relationship with people they choose, also fine. They should not have to face societal pressure from others in how to live their lives so long as they are doing what they want, and not hurting others. And that also means that a monogamous couple should not face pressure from a nice guy just because he wants a piece of the action.
@@Grygus_Triss Precisely my point; the actual issues with marriage vary from place to place and culture to culture, but overall, it is a fine-enough institution. However, the stigma towards unmarried couples caused by the expectation of marriage is where my personal complaints arise.
Married feminist who's married to a feminist- we got married for the Magic Piece of Paper that would let us visit each other in the hospital. While both of us agree the way Xian and so many other religions view of marriage is disgusting, creepy and dehumanizing, we both enjoyed having the community recognize what we share. We got married because we honestly love each other, make each other happy and living with each other is a delight even when hard times hit ( I would rather be digging our car out of a snow drift with my spouse. than anyone else) Its a relationship based on mutual respect, trust, empathy and love that we both cherish. So yah, that kind of marriage between people is completely feminist!
I sympathize with the wife because I also have a clinical anxiety disorder, with those same symptoms. The nice guy here are the types of people that make it worse. They pretend to be such upstanding and good people but have really bad and selfish intentions. They end up making me feel guilty. It's kinda like gaslighting. Only thing different is that I'm a guy, so I've never dealt with sexism directed at me, and I can't imagine what that's like on top of the anxiety. It sounds like hell. :(
Social anxiety is something people never take seriously, but some people are just born lucky so they are surrounded by people who help them through their problems, most are not lucky, its best to hurt the people who mistreat you so they never do it again.
@@2ndperky Gaslighting is something an abusive SO does. The most stereotypical neckbeard who wears his personality on his beard is not gaslighting anyone. He's just cringe?
@@nyxx5357 It wasn't out of character at all. I would contend that Tywin did it because he knew it was the one thing he could do that would hurt Tyrion the most, and he is and always has been petty and sadistic enough to do that for no other reason than his hatred of Tyrion for being a laughingstock
I just wanted to comment that you're my favorite D&D UA-camr by far, CritCrab. You're one of the only ones who reads Reddit stories, and they really help me sleep. Keep up the good work! Edit: Yo, a heart from CritCrab?! This is the best thing since... uh... *checks notes* briced slead.
@@johnnyferalcat896 a very sensitive period of ethnic, religious and political concept in Northern Ireland that spanned much of the late 20th century. I don't really know the exact details tho.
@@johnnyferalcat896 Ireland was first colonised by the English in 1167 and they've never left us alone, genocides, outlawing our language, stealing our land, you name it. We mostly got independence in 1922 but the Brits would only agree to it if they could keep the six counties that are now Northern Ireland. Irish natives didn't have many civil rights and there were a lot of protests trying to fight for those rights or for a united ireland. Then in the 1970s, the British army sent undercover militias into the north of Ireland to murder civilians in drive by shootings pretending to be the other side (ie pretending to be british occupants killing irish natives and vice versa) in order to start a civil war that lasted officially until 1998. A lot of people died and there is still a lot of religious segregation and tension still in the area, not helped by Brexit threatening the treaty that caused the tentative peace in 1998. In fact, every year on the 12th of July, the british occupants burn irish flags and effigies of pro-ireland (or even just not-anti-ireland) political figures
I mean, society in general pretty much already accepts polyamory, sure there's the more conservative people who are against it but the majority of people don't care whatsoever that someone has multiple partners as long as it's consensual. Unless you meant specifically polyamorous marriage cause yeah that is not a thing in most countries, mostly because the legality of it could open a ton of loopholes.
@@erikasakura7721 thats the only thing that i slightly agree with him on, because while yes its mainly conservatives who have an issue with polyamorous relationships, the majority of reactions ive seen range from “youre a cheater” to “its just wrong”. monogamy culture is pretty toxic sometimes, not just when it comes to polyamory, like how hetero culture is. doesnt mean theres anything wrong with being straight or monogamous, but the respect definitely isnt there a lot of the time
I'm all for destigmatization of Polyamory, but neckbeards and nice guys almost exclusively use it to mean "I want a harem." Shock of all shocks, Polyamory is actually really meticulous to maintain and requires consent and a lot of communication to keep it working (something I GUARANTEE a nice guy wouldn't want to put effort into. Edit: OHHHHH I DON'T LIKE THAT. Guy being attracted to fluttershy's anxiety is a HUGE red flag. Not to mention she developed through the series to become more confident and handle her anxiety in healthy ways. This guy out here is really admitting he wants an insecure trophy wife who won't ever disagree or stand up to him.
It's worse than a "trophy wife". I've seen it, and it's the most cringe thing I've ever seen in a relationship. He wants her to *need* him to be a white knight. He wants her to cling on to him like a scared child in an anime. He wants to be able to talk for her. He wants to be the only person who ever really gets to know her. I watched this get done tho someone a number of years ago.
Well, i diagree. Me personally, i am for polyarmoury. Everyone should have both leather armour for lighter travel but also own plate against heavy hitters. Considering modern times, a proper kevlar suit is also not out of the question.
That last line was just DnD in a nutshell wasn't it? "I'm surrounded by idiots! You're all fools, cowards, and scoundrels! ... Anyway, same time next week?"
Bloody hell as soon as I heard the troubles part I wanted to deck him. Met a fair share of Americans that have "shared" those opinions to me (straight up telling me it's all stupid which while I don't purely disagree it is far FAR more complicated than that). Not that it's a specifically American issue but outsiders that think they know better over it will never cease to boil my blood. Like dude you didn't have your uncle shot 27 times while at work or your grandad nearly miss death because he stayed late at work one night while his house was bombed. It's far more complicated than those outside of Ireland seem to think it is. Even friends I've had to talk to em about making Irish bombing jokes.
@@caoimhedoesstuff9293 As an American, we don't even need the liscense most of the time. Too many of us see "Freedom of Speech" as "Freedom for ME to talk out of my ass and you can never call me out or correct me on it." I can't count the number of 'Freeze Peach' people who are honestly shocked when I drop the "I have the freedom to tell you you are full of shit" when the argument devolves into that.
@@caoimhedoesstuff9293 Americans have basically zero culture and history, so they have to leech off of other countries and pretend they're (insert nationality here), when they're like 1/128th Irish/Scottish/German/etc.
Im regard to not dealing with out of game issues in game, technically it WAS an in game issue as well as it was directly hurting the party with his every move. I hate letting players resolve issues like that themselves but for instances like this i have and likely would again let the players deal with it. Assuming they beat me to getting rid of him
So this is only very tangentially related to this story, but the Nice Guy trope has done sooo much damage to the image of the Fedora, a few people actually came up to me when I walked into a club wearing one (with a wide, flat brim) and straight up asked whether I was an incel. It's a shame too, large, waterproof felt hats that you can crumple and stuff into your backpack without fear of it loosing form are super handy but I've met quite a couple of people who don't want to wear one due to this newly arisen stigma.
My mom bought me one for Christmas and I had to break it to her that there was no way I would wear it because there was wayyyy too much baggage associated with it lol
Honestly the alcohol thing made me chuckle, because really the whole messing with your head thing is a big chunk of the appeal, so in theory not liking that feeling is a perfectly valid reason not to drink. But just the way it was phrased on top of all That Guy's other stuff makes it come off as more performative BS than legitimate.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a red flag on its own, sometimes people recovering from alcohol issues will say dumb things as a refusal because a simple 'no, thank you' is often questioned or pushed on...- But with the rest of the guy's shit, lol.
Btw, as a fan of MLP, Fluttershy literally gains confidence throughout the seasons and even becomes more self-reliant so that guy fetishized the demure and meek version of Fluttershy that often worked hard to gain a backbone which he obviously ignored or just stopped watching after season 1
No joke, Nice Guy(TM) sounds *exactly* like someone I used to be friends with (as in, may be the same person). Condescending ✓ Mansplanes everything ✓ Argues whenever he loses a game ✓ "FeMiNiSt"? ✓ Won't drink because "brain fog" ✓ "KnIgHt In ShInInG ArMoR"? ✓ Has a fetish for anxiety ridden shy women who barely interact with anyone ✓✓✓✓✓✓✓
I gotta say, flipping the script and having the conspiracy theorist be right about one thing was a great maneuver for getting the party out of that pickle. That's amazing DM skills and something that should be a legend within your play group.
Years ago, I was playing four-way MTG when I casually mentioned, in response to an offer of libations, that I don't drink or smoke. (All three of the other players did both.) One of the other players was taken aback by this statement and asked me if I was a Mormon, which set my best friend howling with laughter.
I used to do a larp with a guy who proclaimed, loudly, about how much of a feminist, but he hated when there was an assertive woman around and he used to jump onto threads discussing Feminist issues just to derail them with "not all men! bullshit. The final straw was an incident on a crafting Facebook group a friend of mine set up to help with isolation from the pandemic. One of the women posted a embroidery project that read "Have the confidence of a mediocre white man." He started bitching to the mod about how "offensive" it was, while going on about how much of a feminist he was. He's gone now, not in any groups or Larps I play and that is so so nice. He was a real creep.
Anyone who plays CAH expecting to win with brain power, or lack there of, clearly doesn’t know how the game works. For those who don’t know, Cards Against Humanity is a simple game where you make someone laugh with extremely funny, and potentially offensive, responses from a white card to whatever prompt they give with a black card.
Brain power can help though, yeah being funny helps, but at the end of the day the player that understands the dealer's sense of humour is most likely to win, though in this guy's case, yeah he's just an idiot
There's always someone who straight up DEMANDS the card and kicks up a fuss when they don't get it. Snatching the card is much rarer but still happens.
@@kurosakikun96 Oh absolutely. My family do some very targeted jokes and sometimes they need to be a bit big brained or they can just be “a bigger, blacker dick” and get the win.
I have to say, them ganging up on and killing the Cleric that was causing issues is satisfying. He's not healing anyone, he's not hitting anything, and he's just making the barbarian's job harder. Now that he's dealt with and out of the way permanently, you can do everything else.
God, the polygamy/monogamy argument is one of the few things I'm a centrist on. Both sides have good points, and both are insufferably smug about their perceived superiority. I support either type of relationship. So long as no one is being hurt or forced into it, who cares?
I just wanna say, that as a shy introvert. I hope I find some of these people who break away from the "that guys" and finally play through a real dnd campaign. Listening to you talk about what you love about makes me really want to get into it.
I think the key to good D&D is to play with people you already know, like and trust, especially at first. Getting into character can be pretty embarrassing and if you're already anxious the comfort of that space being one you share with people you trust can really, really help. If it's everybody's first game and the rules feel intimidating, don't be afraid to do something rules lite! There's a ton of games out there and while D&D can be dense and intimidating (though 5th ed is more approachable than its predecessors) stuff like GURPS tends to be pretty one-size fits all. The "Beer and Pretzels" genre can be a really good place to start-they're generally very rules lite systems that focus on a one-shot experience, kind of a roleplaying appetizer. Kobolds Ate My Baby was my gateway game and one I recommend, but there's countless games out there for every tone and level of engagement. If you can nab 2-3 people you know and trust and talk them into it, you'll have yourself a homegrown D&D group before long.
It depends really. I have an anxiety disorder but I've always found playing a character to be easier than being myself, having that mask (literal or otherwise) helps make a buffer between your real self and the outside world. And there's a benefit to not playing with people you know at least online, which is if things don't work out you can always just disappear, plus the online aspect again adds distance, especially if you're not doing video, or voice chat. Then again my D&D experience also coincides with me actually getting help with my disorder, so it was probably a merger of all the above for me even though the anxiety is nowhere near gone as of this writing.
To be fair, it sounds like they did try telling him to knock it off OOC multiple times to no avail. Beating him to death in game seemed to be the only way he got the message.
Nevermind the story. I admire OP's wife for being brave enough to go to a convention in spite of her social anxiety. May she continue to have the strength to be her quietly brave self.
I had someone try and "protect" my barbarian/wizard multi class and the only thing I said was "I swing indiscriminately" Dude got out the way real quick
I wonder if that guy understood that a good chunk of development fluttershy got throughout the show was becoming more confident and learning to deal with social anxieties
Man Plixx is lucky. If I had been the DM, I would have had the queen get up, look at the harpoon and say: "Well, I never thought anyone would be insane enough to figure this out." And then she proceeds to grow a bunch of etherial star tentacles. Although the whale was WAY funnier!
Worst is the so called "nice guy" probably wasn't quiet and shy either. Fucker had the audacity to hit a woman in front of husband, if I was the husband, I would beat the shit out of him even if I ended up on jail.
I know it's bad manners for a DM to solve life problems in game, but seriously just don't let people be a problem. Don't let them be able to get out of a bad situation they put themselves in, kill them or imprison them.
See, at a certain point the dwarf barbarian needs to drop their weapon, and just wield the cleric, beat the enemy to death with his body until it’s too floppy to use, then leave him there and move on. If he survives, he can heal himself, catch up, and get zero loot, OR, his body can stay there as a warning to the next adventures
Every time I feel my writing isn’t up to snuff or think I’ve seen some heinous shit at my table, I watch CritCrab and feel better than I’ve never seen anything as bad as these.
For the longest time I had a Knight in shinning armor complex that lasted from my teens to mid twenties. Looking back, I cringe on how I acted or thought. Inherently, I still don’t believe there’s anything wrong with the tale of a noble warrior saving a damsel in trouble. Yet I have seen how that concept can be twisted for selfish ends. The true noble warrior saves the damsel because she’s in legitimate trouble, not just what the warrior sees as trouble. He does this out of selfless. The damsel is by no means obligated to “reward” the warrior. In the context of this post, the human fighter is the true noble warrior because he’s supporting his future wife over coming her metal issues. He’s doing this because he wants her to improve as a person and isn’t seeking to control her. That guy is claiming to be pro female empowerment but doesn’t want her to improve? That guy is more like Jabba the Hutt than Luke Skywalker or Han Solo.
I'm a woman who grew up loving the "knight in shining armor" typ of characters and inspired to be one myself. But I never thought of it in a romantic, swiping someone you like off their feet, type of trop. I saw them helping others when they were a in need and showing them that someone cares about them and wants them to be happy, free and protected from harm so that they can flourish, grow and spread that experience to others either by becoming someone to stand up for others as well or by using their ability they were mocked for or were too afraid to use for people who can benefit from it and helping others in ways other's, including myself, couldn't help. My role models were people like Luke, Einstein, Naruto, Luffy, Steven Hawking, Mary Poppins, Marie Curie, Pippi Langstrumpf, Sam, Éowyn, Aragor and Gandalf from Lord of the Rings and obviously also people I met through my life like the friend of my father who told me to strive for something higher when my self esteem was that bad that I was about to give up on my dreams, my mother who always is there for me when I struggle/-d and listens to it so I can/could process it and gain strength again and my father who supports my ambitions, tells me it's ok to know set backs and take my time while helping me to go forward step by step and many of the people I managed to befriend after a very lonely time when I was a huge outcast in my school with only one friend who my bullies tried to convince to leave me mainly because I was very weird compared to my classmates. I can't do anything but agree with you and what you wrote about the "knight in shining armor". When viewed "selfish" it's mainly about praises and the feeling of being needed which both aren't bad but also important for healthy self image as long as it's not a demand, an unhealthy expectation or a forced insert in someone's situation that don't actually help them and might even hinder their growth for your own interests as you described. When you help someone it's important to show care about the wants of the person that you help. Making sure they are safe in actual danger or harm has a priority but of it isn't in such a situation you have to listen to what they tell you instead of claiming you know best for them. Those are the important distinctions and a healthy mindset to life up to the actual knight in shining armor. Someone as noble as that knows when to be humble and just a human or friend when time is right (the majority of time).
I love it when shy people get so fed up with the bullshit they start yelling. I'm one of thoughts shy people but when I yell people tend to listen lmao.
As a poly person in a poly relationship, hearing Nice Guy go off on monogamous people made me cringe so hard I pulled a muscle. Yes it's true that marriage as a political/legal institution has been used to oppress others and yes it's true that Western culture is heavily monogamous-centric, but calling all monogamous people "brainwashed" is some creepy manipulative shit. He sounds like the kind of person who says they're polyamorous when what they really mean is they want an anime harem of questionably legal age
Now see, I love that ending with the conspiracy theory being true, but in that situation? I'd reveal that the Queen was secretly a prawn the whole time.
We had this character, a king who was cursed for all eternity by a cosmic entity trapped in a human body for simping and harassing her publicly despite having a family, even after 5000 years and despite being cursed by her, he claims to still be loyal to her... we all got sick of him and very soon, but our own mr. nice guy started to rant against the goddess for being "a bitch who doesn't understand loyalty and should be taught lessons about love from a real man".
How has it taken this long for Crit Crab to come across the incel subset of the "white knight"?! It's kind of adorable how he thinks he's the first to discover and define them.
"Y'all are scoundrels! See you on Saturday, bring pizza!" Though I paraphrased a bit, this sentiment resonates with me HARD! I've said it and heard it more than once in very similar words!😂
Suffer not the "Nice Guy", the Incel, or the Simp. Then again, I can barely tell these people apart these days anyways, their toxicness comes from the same place.
As a fan of Fluttershy, I see her social anxiety as a relatable flaw at best and I cheer whenever I see her overcome it. What I like is her kindness and, more relevantly, her demonstrating that it's possible to overcome social anxiety.
Oh my Fauci so true I relate. I have social anxiety too and cope by watching little girl cartoons but I feel better when my wife's boyfriend buys me a Nintendo switch.
I both am from and live in N.Ireland... the troubles was no joke, and the scars still linger. I remember the army patrolling the streets with rifles and not being able to get the train due to a bomb on the tracks, my uncle nearly lost his business and his life to a bomb too because he was a Protestant in a Catholic area, thankfully it didn't go off... Hearing someone who didn't have to live through that horrible time say it was "stupid" is just a walking red flag....
I got the impression it was more the condescension that bugged OP than the refusal. If you don't drink, you can just say so without an implied insult to everyone who does.
The worst part is, is that I used to BE this type of guy in high school although not quite to the degree he his. overly feminist, flaunting my ideas and smartness. I've gotten rid of those traits now as I look back and think how dumb I must have looked (although I still support women's rights of course). This story proves that some guys just won't take the hint like I did eventually.
I'm a big believer that's it's great for men to support feminism. But you should be very wary of men who go out of their ways to tell you they're a feminist.
I didn’t know what a feminism was in High School. When I found out, and more specifically found out how many people had to have conscientiously lied to me about the generic term for any supporter of women’s rights, I was furious. I’ve stayed furious. American schooling is fucked.
Self-proclaimed feminist? Man-Bun? Brony? Christ, is this person TRYING to be a living caricature?
More like trying to be living cringe.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM really?? says the person who's unironically subscribed to steven crowder and pragerU..
@@Slayyyaphine >insulting me based on who I'm subscribed to
1. that's a classy ad hominem.
2. I don't watch their vids anymore. I forgot I was even subscribed to them.
I've met guys like him, and heard what they really think. It is no different from the rest of us, just wrapped in deception and pretty condescending.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Dare I ask what happened?
Ironic he’s insisting that OP’s wife be more like Fluttershy considering the character’s entire arc was about conquering her anxiety, becoming more social, and even learning to stand up for herself. In later seasons, she’s one of the more assertive characters in the show. So, yeah, even his own pony crush doesn’t fit his demands.
He’s like that guy from sword art online abridged who became a murderer because his wife’s life stopped revolving around him and his needs.
@@JaelinBezel Horrible news.... They didn't do a parody for that. That was his motive in the actual show too.
@@glcorpmember .....no way🤣 I don't remember that
@@JaelinBezel That wasnt from Abriged, that happened in teh original series as well.
homestuck
Even Fluttershy went through an arc where she was able to find confidence in herself.
If you connect the dots it paints a horrible picture of an incel who is fantasizing about having an insecure, anxious woman he can easily gaslight and manipulate.
@@ZorotheGallade Had a guy like that in our group.
Tried breaking up the marriage of two of my closest friends.
He's gone now tho.
We kicked him.
@@ZorotheGallade That is the goal of incel feminist for most of these stories. They see a defenless women and they use their agenda to trap them.
@@ZorotheGallade You forgot to add 'narcissistic'. This fellow had more than a few traits that fit the description of a narcissist.
or a weird man who thinks having a clingy, rather socially inept woman would be best when in reality she'll honestly just need therapy
I like Cinema Therapy and how they went into the difference between the Nice Guy and the Good Guy. Makes all the difference.
A man of culture
oh shit another person of good taste
the internet dads are one of my favorite channels :D ive rewatched the megamind episode lately lol
I love cinema therapy
I liked one line in their Knives Out episode (ok, no. I liked everything in their Knives Out episode, but this line really stood out to me):
"Being nice is about appearances, being kind is about what's right" and "Nice doesn't cost you anything".
They had debunked the Nice guy even before Megamind.
@@sandrols7 I like the video of them dismantling the twilight relationship model.
The Space Whale conspiracy being true made me laugh. Ya know, it just reinforces that insanely sage saying: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."
I didn’t expect it. I tuned out for a moment because I was doing something and I hear “her skin turns a dark blue, slowly bulging and inflating” and I do a double take, and go back and rewind it wondering if I really just heard that.
It’s those kinds of moments that I wish for myself in dnd 💀
Nirvana quote. I like
It's not paranoia when they really are trying to kill you
@@PresidentMystry I first heard a variation of this from the Harry Dresden novels: “if they really are out to get you, it doesn’t count as paranoia”
Not only did it make me laugh, I am surprised the dwarf player was faulted for doing this. It makes perfect sense for his character to stick to the theory and be delusional enough to think he can solve the problem with one shot. The real problem is the other party members and DM not expecting this - although maybe the dwarf player should have given them some clue or ask them to roll insight or clarify he was up to something by asking the DM to accept a Deception roll.
As somebody from Northern Ireland, with family who were directly involved in the troubles, let’s just say that I very sharply inhaled when I heard that line
Memento Mori
Same & same.
OP went into more detail about that in the comments on the original post. It was infuriating to read.
As someone from the otherside of Ireland, I really don't want to hear whatever line you're referring to.
That troubles line really irked me
God, everytime someone is like “I couldn’t believe this wasn’t a trollpost”, I just want to send screenshot after screenshot of guys *exactly like this* ending up in my DMs
way too many people spent too much time on r/thathappned and then decided that anything that's slightly unlikely or even just out of their own experiences must be fake
@@ursulajoni15 YOU’RE SO RIGHT
Bruh, do it and post it. I love shit like that. it's so fun to read
but like, this is dnd are there barbarian skills that take more than one turn and can't be cancelled? I guess the cleric covers both the barbarian and the enemy but shouldn't it still damage the enemy?
My own experiences have taught me that even if this was a trollpost, someone out there probably did something similar enough to warrant the story anyway.
Helping loved ones overcome mental illness is "making them something they're not"? So by this guy's logic, I should stop trying to manage my depression because "YoU'Re peRFecT thE WAy yoU ARe!!" Yeah alright, I'll just spiral into increasingly bleak thoughts and hopelessness again. Thanks, chief.
Don't change! It makes ya perfect for the best of guys to take care of ya!
*fedora intensifies*
Fwiw, as a fellow depressed person, I'd like to offer something that helped me. Maybe you're not "perfect", but, you never will be. Perfect is an illusion. You ARE *good enough* though, even now. Even when you're struggling hardest. Especially then! You can always be better, you can always grow and improve, and trying to is absolutely a worthwhile pursuit. Just try to remember; if you are worth anything later, then you are worth something now.
That guy was a predator, he viewed insecurity, anxiety and likely depression that goes hand in hand with it as an attractive trait because a partner with that trait would *need* him and his validation and support too much to look beneath the surface. This guy is likely an incel as well, and I get the feeling that even if or when his predatory behaviour works the relationship would likely dissolve or deteriorate very quickly. He wouldn't have the patience to actually put up with a partner that needed him in the way he drools about in his mind and would project the frustration of that situation back onto the partner. 'Nice Guy' isn't unique in this and the sad thing is that under the right circumstances it does work and people who are lonely and vulnerable get taken advantage of.
People with mental illness, like you, like me, need to stick together, and that's why communal games like DnD are so important, even if it's online. Having a group that can look out for someone who isn't currently capable of advocating for themselves saves so many lives in so many little ways, and can help that person move towards recognising their own self value and their own right to not have to rely on necrotising pestilence dressing up as a human for any measure of their purpose or worth as a living being.
Well you'll be like his second favorite pony depressy pie
Honestly, that mindset of "you're perfect the way you are" is what has led to so much awful in society. No one takes responsibility anymore because X. No one bothers to have common decency anymore because X, why self censor your authentic self? (All used facetiously fyi, "no one" is not literal.) No one tries to improve themself because acceptance means you're fine in stagnation.
This mindset is what changed the Body Positivity movement, all body types are beautiful (not obesity, but pears/ apples/ hourglass/ skin color/ hair texture/ etc.), into a demand to never ridicule/ get exasperated by/ just deal with extremely overweight people breakings seats and making airplanes impossible. Look, I'm overweight, my self worth isn't tied to how others see me, maybe try that instead of demanding others kowtow to your self centered beliefs???
Be it the child who never learns how to try something they're not good at to improve or the adult who refuses to compromise because they don't need to, this mindset is PURE toxicity. No one is perfect. No one should be seeking group acceptance. What you should be seeking and working on is learning how to love yourself, which means being able to set goals, discipline, change approaches and qualities and mindsets, etc. It's hard work, but it's far better than being a spoiled brat demanding tolerance when you give none in return.
What's with all these creeps simping for characters that are meek and shy?
Oh I know. Reliance. These dudes want a woman who is emotionally dependent on them because there is no way a woman would love them otherwise. Pathetic.
i think its more about the power. someone who is emotionally dependent is also very easily manipulated, more often than not. he just wanted to manipulate her and have her to himself.
@@stellar2926 an equally valid answer. It may as well be a combination of the two. One begets the other, so on and so forth.
@@stellar2926 Power and reliance are strongly related here.
Reliance is a power dynamic.
You didn't refute anything you just stated it a different way.
(not that there's anything wrong with that)
To be fair, there’s nothing wrong with being like fluttershy. Mostly because she didn’t stay meek and timid. She’s still quiet and soft spoken, but she will speak up. Its character growth and what not.
Fluttershy’s arc is underrated TBH
He probably hates those episodes
True but he explicitly said they were "perfect as is" so I don't think this guy appreciated the character development lol
@@tjreardon8495 probably is an overestimate, he must definitely hates those episodes
I loved the character dynamic of Rainbow trying to push Fluttershy’s limits in order for her to be more confident. As a guy who does have anxiety I kinda wish I had a friend like that
Due to the fact that that dude seemed to know nothing about how Fluttershy got a lot stronger, more confident and independent as the series progressed, something tells me he's not actually a pony fan, but just happened to find a character on the internet that could fulfill his sick need to find someone insecure to be completely dependent on him, and a character from an all-ages show who starts off very overdone in that aspect was probably just an unfortunately easy target for him to latch onto.
Yeah I imagine he probably hates if not outright skipped the later seasons after she starts to become more assertive and self confident.
I just assumed he watched until the second season and that was it, because many "fans" didnt care for the series when Mccracken left..
@@plumtucker9514 Their loss.
Admittedly, Starlight Glimmer being the 6th ranger kinda made a bad shift, in my opinion. Her being as powerful as she needed to be just smacked of laziness, which I felt was very unfortunate in a show that had some fairly good writing to that point. There were many flawed episode, but most are still watchable. I also felt it was an unfortunate choice because Starlight had made for a cunning, underpowered villain when she debuted. She couldn't just be beam-spammed with the rainbow power, she had to be defeated by other means. The Mane6 had to be... smart.
I bet he didn't even know Fluttershy had actual relationships with Discord 🤷
I can't believe I grew up watching that cartoon, only for it to be transformed into a sexual fantasy for creeps.
4:14 Never tell an Irish person how to feel about the troubles, or any other event in irish history with similar political issues (The 1916 rising, the civil war etc) I'm surprised that guys friend didn't punch him as soon as the "niceguy" even opened his mouth, cause I sure as hell would have.
Whaaat? but telling other people how they should feel about their culture/history is always a surefire way to make friends!
I'm not even Irish, but as soon as he said that bit, I went "oh shit" out loud.
Id have socked him when he started telling me how to treat my fiance. I dont like violence used for words but some things just need to be stopped where they start
I'm surprised they didn't kill him on the spot. 🤔
But would you win in the possible ensuing fight that would happen, through your confidence, I’d put money on you winning honestly lol
“As a male feminist incel, I found a lot of the language in this video to be very problematic.”
-Twitter
I read this in a stereotypical California soyboy nasal whine.
Ugh...
@@MusingMageofDisney then you read it correctly.
The soy.... THE GOD DAMN SOYYY
Isn't feminist and incel an oxymoron?
@Fyrwinde Those buggers give us californians a bad rap......thats why i say we replace La with more orange county, cause LA sucks
Oh yea, being a “feminist” nice guy is definitely gonna get the girl.
They think they are claiming a mathematical victory. "If we normalize women sleeping with everyone this means they will also sleep with me!"
Skipping over the simple fact even in such a world they would not be touched by women with a 20 foot pole.
@@ZorotheGallade Yep. 80/20 rule. Most women go for the top 20% of men.
Oh, they get women. Just not the ones they want. They get the left overs. The land whales who got fat, has a kid/kids with multiple men (Chad's and Tyrone's kids), the wrong side of 30, with massive debt, and baggage. They wife these single mothers up not understanding that they're just a meal ticket.
@@smithsmith1956 Most men are below average so idk what your point is
@@smithsmith1956 its not even that, the thing is that a Male feminist is repulsive to women because they are trying to appeal to them in a slimy way, they instead of approaching whit courage they instead want to sneakily and slowly wither down her defences and maybe one day she will be extremelly drunk and he will abuse that situation, i prefer being a "Jackass" than a male feminist, at least you have dignity.
"(Note the Dwarf Barbarian was male)" damn, she preemptively stiff-armed him and he STILL took that road. Well played on her part, though.
The only people who'll be making a sandwich for him are the DM's who get fed up and add a lot of extra knuckle in for his "Nice" behavior.
It'll be delivered on a silver platter
Why knuckle? Arsenic. Or something like that. Maybe OD them on antidepressants
You should always bribe your DMs with food. And candy.
@@harrisonhurst6480 we were talking about "mr.Knight". I wouldn't add arsenic into DM's food
@@emapocubayova4763 Lol sorry was mostly making a joke that you should bring food to the DMs you are playing with.
"The Troubles"... which were also a part of the Eight Hundred Years. That "Nice Guy" CLEARLY had ZERO Irish ancestry because NO ONE who actually knows about Irish history would EVER make light of what happened between the 12th and 20th Centuries.
Not even 20th century, it’s still going on into the 21st. Effigy’s of Catholics are still being burned, people are still fighting each other over religion, politics are at a standstill due to sectarianism and we live in constant fear of it getting worse
what was the troubles and what happened?
@@johnnyferalcat896 it’s very complicated to explain in a small comment section, but it was a conflict between catholic republicans and Protestant unionists in Ireland. There was a lot of inequality between Catholics and Protestants, and there was also a thing called Gerrymandering going on which I don’t fully understand but it’s basically moving voting borders and stuff to make sure the political party that one group wants gets voted in no matter what, which basically meant that republicans had zero chance of a Republican Party majority.
Basically the troubles started as Catholics trying to gain equality, but when the conflict started it became messy and brutal. There were many paramilitary groups, such as the IRA (Irish Republican Army) and the UDF (Ulster defence force). These paramilitary groups committed atrocities, killing each other and innocents. Even today in Northern Ireland there are arguments happening about wether or not people should be prosecuted for crimes committed during the troubles.
Eventually the Good Friday Agreement was signed, which arguably saw the end to the worst of the troubles.
I’d recommend reading about it because it’s a complex series of events that can’t be summed up with enough nuance in one comment. Long story short, we’re still experiencing the aftermaths of the troubles in the country today. Effigy’s of Catholics are being burned in bonfires, the government is effectively in standstill, and there is constant back and forth that goes nowhere. Even Biden has commented on the current unrest in the country.
@@caoimhedoesstuff9293 great explanation Caoimhe, I'm from Dublin btw and your comment was summed up really well from the limited space of a YT comment, especially for such a nuanced subject
Yeah. Even here in the U.S the “troubles” followed Irish immigrants and their descendants. I have been told by my mother that when my great grandfather was a boy his mother made him wear orange on Sant Patrick’s Day. He would get beaten up by the boys at the Catholic school he had to walk past.
Crit crab saying uwu made my soul vomit out my butt, can someone make a 10 hour loop of it?
Do NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES make that.
@@CritCrab OOOOOOR...do
@@CritCrab do it, do it, do it!!!!!
DO.
@@CritCrab you make a fair request but, I fear you must realize something important your lordship... this is the internet. You were doomed the second you spoke the word.
That's not a red flag that's a GIANT Mountain of red flags...
My grandparents and mother were effected by the troubles (they were from the north) & moved to the Republic of Ireland. The troubles was a really fucked up time even when it was over.
I am thankful my family didn't lose anyone very close but it was a close call a few times, and even then there was constant harassment when they moved to the south to escape the troubles because they were from the north. It was a nightmare and destroyed so many lives.
Like, he might as well join the Soviet Union and trade all of those for a giant red flag.
I actually had to stop to audibly sigh or make an "omfg" statement. Not even 6 minutes in yet... This guy is a piece of work
right
The "Nice Guy" is actually a "Cult Leader" but without the charisma to create a cult.
Epic Gamer Pro Tip: don't simp for your fellow player, especially if they are married and their partner is AT THE TABLE WITH THEM
You know, I agree that marriage is archaic, but only in the legal respect (and more based around the reluctance to legitimize non-married partnerships than marriage itself); from a cultural or social level, it varies massively from place-to-place, but somehow I doubt that this guy has done enough research to form his own opinion. Pretty sure he just wants to bully girls into forming a "harem", but is too boneheaded to realize that you need to actually, you know, have girls who *_like_* you before you've got any chance of having a monogamous relationship, much less a polyamorous one-something which the majority of people are uncomfortable with, for obvious reasons.
Marriage is failing because guys are tired of signing the contract that rewards a women when she breaks it and punishes him, even if she's the sole reason the contract broke. She cheats, she divorces, shes awarded half of everything he's ever worked for and now he has to pay her alimony, monthly checks. No sane guy wants that.
Yeah, marriage is an outdated concept. But that does not mean it’s an invalid option. If people want to get married that’s fine. If people don’t want to get married, also fine. If people, either married or unmarried, want to have a poly or monogamous relationship with people they choose, also fine.
They should not have to face societal pressure from others in how to live their lives so long as they are doing what they want, and not hurting others.
And that also means that a monogamous couple should not face pressure from a nice guy just because he wants a piece of the action.
@@Grygus_Triss Precisely my point; the actual issues with marriage vary from place to place and culture to culture, but overall, it is a fine-enough institution. However, the stigma towards unmarried couples caused by the expectation of marriage is where my personal complaints arise.
What the fuck is wrong with all of you defending degenerate behavior like this?
Married feminist who's married to a feminist- we got married for the Magic Piece of Paper that would let us visit each other in the hospital. While both of us agree the way Xian and so many other religions view of marriage is disgusting, creepy and dehumanizing, we both enjoyed having the community recognize what we share. We got married because we honestly love each other, make each other happy and living with each other is a delight even when hard times hit ( I would rather be digging our car out of a snow drift with my spouse. than anyone else) Its a relationship based on mutual respect, trust, empathy and love that we both cherish. So yah, that kind of marriage between people is completely feminist!
I sympathize with the wife because I also have a clinical anxiety disorder, with those same symptoms. The nice guy here are the types of people that make it worse. They pretend to be such upstanding and good people but have really bad and selfish intentions. They end up making me feel guilty. It's kinda like gaslighting. Only thing different is that I'm a guy, so I've never dealt with sexism directed at me, and I can't imagine what that's like on top of the anxiety. It sounds like hell. :(
Social anxiety is something people never take seriously, but some people are just born lucky so they are surrounded by people who help them through their problems, most are not lucky, its best to hurt the people who mistreat you so they never do it again.
"It's kinda like gaslighting"
That's not... what??
@@littlemoth4956 How is it not?
@@2ndperky Gaslighting is something an abusive SO does.
The most stereotypical neckbeard who wears his personality on his beard is not gaslighting anyone. He's just cringe?
@@SecuR0Mabuse isn’t restricted to partners
"Anyone who calls themselves a king, is no true king."
~The guy who got shot to death on the shitter by his own son
I hated what they did with his character. Just threw it right in the trash. Yeah, he was always evil, but not bang-his-son's-ex evil.
@@nyxx5357 my guy, I get where you're coming from, but that's not even the worst thing Tywin's done to Tyrion
@@lt.walrus8382 Oh, I know. But it was out of character, and completely out of nowhere.
“If you have to tell others that you’re a lady, you aren’t one.” -poster on my world history classroom’s wall from high school
@@nyxx5357 It wasn't out of character at all. I would contend that Tywin did it because he knew it was the one thing he could do that would hurt Tyrion the most, and he is and always has been petty and sadistic enough to do that for no other reason than his hatred of Tyrion for being a laughingstock
I just wanted to comment that you're my favorite D&D UA-camr by far, CritCrab. You're one of the only ones who reads Reddit stories, and they really help me sleep. Keep up the good work!
Edit: Yo, a heart from CritCrab?! This is the best thing since... uh... *checks notes* briced slead.
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Anyone else have a Ferengi voice in their head whenever someone says "females"?
Yup. Especially when you remember that they made them say it like that BECAUSE it's creepy.
Yup.
Man of culture detected.
Well. I do now. XD
Hey Irish guy DM here I really appreciate you keeping in mind how he discredited the troubles. I lost an aunt from it and it is horrible
can you tell me what were the troubles and what happened?
@@johnnyferalcat896 a very sensitive period of ethnic, religious and political concept in Northern Ireland that spanned much of the late 20th century. I don't really know the exact details tho.
Sorry to hear about that. I don't know too much about your country's history, but I hope the situation has improved. Solidarity from the USA.
@@johnnyferalcat896 Ireland was first colonised by the English in 1167 and they've never left us alone, genocides, outlawing our language, stealing our land, you name it. We mostly got independence in 1922 but the Brits would only agree to it if they could keep the six counties that are now Northern Ireland. Irish natives didn't have many civil rights and there were a lot of protests trying to fight for those rights or for a united ireland. Then in the 1970s, the British army sent undercover militias into the north of Ireland to murder civilians in drive by shootings pretending to be the other side (ie pretending to be british occupants killing irish natives and vice versa) in order to start a civil war that lasted officially until 1998. A lot of people died and there is still a lot of religious segregation and tension still in the area, not helped by Brexit threatening the treaty that caused the tentative peace in 1998. In fact, every year on the 12th of July, the british occupants burn irish flags and effigies of pro-ireland (or even just not-anti-ireland) political figures
Oh dang that is sad
Dude wants a society that accepts polygamy. Even though he would STILL be maidenless, even if it was acceptable for a woman to marry multiple men.
I mean, society in general pretty much already accepts polyamory, sure there's the more conservative people who are against it but the majority of people don't care whatsoever that someone has multiple partners as long as it's consensual. Unless you meant specifically polyamorous marriage cause yeah that is not a thing in most countries, mostly because the legality of it could open a ton of loopholes.
@@erikasakura7721 thats the only thing that i slightly agree with him on, because while yes its mainly conservatives who have an issue with polyamorous relationships, the majority of reactions ive seen range from “youre a cheater” to “its just wrong”. monogamy culture is pretty toxic sometimes, not just when it comes to polyamory, like how hetero culture is. doesnt mean theres anything wrong with being straight or monogamous, but the respect definitely isnt there a lot of the time
I'm all for destigmatization of Polyamory, but neckbeards and nice guys almost exclusively use it to mean "I want a harem." Shock of all shocks, Polyamory is actually really meticulous to maintain and requires consent and a lot of communication to keep it working (something I GUARANTEE a nice guy wouldn't want to put effort into.
Edit: OHHHHH I DON'T LIKE THAT. Guy being attracted to fluttershy's anxiety is a HUGE red flag. Not to mention she developed through the series to become more confident and handle her anxiety in healthy ways. This guy out here is really admitting he wants an insecure trophy wife who won't ever disagree or stand up to him.
Came to the comment section to find this, thank you!
Polyamory is something thought of by people who are too scared to actually get a divorce, you cant maintain a healthy relationship with a degenerate.
Was looking for this!
It's worse than a "trophy wife". I've seen it, and it's the most cringe thing I've ever seen in a relationship.
He wants her to *need* him to be a white knight. He wants her to cling on to him like a scared child in an anime. He wants to be able to talk for her. He wants to be the only person who ever really gets to know her.
I watched this get done tho someone a number of years ago.
Well, i diagree. Me personally, i am for polyarmoury. Everyone should have both leather armour for lighter travel but also own plate against heavy hitters. Considering modern times, a proper kevlar suit is also not out of the question.
That last line was just DnD in a nutshell wasn't it?
"I'm surrounded by idiots! You're all fools, cowards, and scoundrels!
...
Anyway, same time next week?"
The second story really has that "it's too late, you've awakened the gazebo!" energy
Bloody hell as soon as I heard the troubles part I wanted to deck him. Met a fair share of Americans that have "shared" those opinions to me (straight up telling me it's all stupid which while I don't purely disagree it is far FAR more complicated than that). Not that it's a specifically American issue but outsiders that think they know better over it will never cease to boil my blood. Like dude you didn't have your uncle shot 27 times while at work or your grandad nearly miss death because he stayed late at work one night while his house was bombed. It's far more complicated than those outside of Ireland seem to think it is. Even friends I've had to talk to em about making Irish bombing jokes.
Americans have 0.00001% Irish dna and think that gives them a green card to make horribly insensitive comments
@@caoimhedoesstuff9293 As an American, we don't even need the liscense most of the time. Too many of us see "Freedom of Speech" as "Freedom for ME to talk out of my ass and you can never call me out or correct me on it."
I can't count the number of 'Freeze Peach' people who are honestly shocked when I drop the "I have the freedom to tell you you are full of shit" when the argument devolves into that.
@@caoimhedoesstuff9293 Americans have basically zero culture and history, so they have to leech off of other countries and pretend they're (insert nationality here), when they're like 1/128th Irish/Scottish/German/etc.
I find it horrifying how many insist it was simply a “minor war” in order to trivialize it….shit was pure chaos and violence.
That’s weird, because the OP and “Nice Guy” are English, not American
Im regard to not dealing with out of game issues in game, technically it WAS an in game issue as well as it was directly hurting the party with his every move. I hate letting players resolve issues like that themselves but for instances like this i have and likely would again let the players deal with it. Assuming they beat me to getting rid of him
So this is only very tangentially related to this story, but the Nice Guy trope has done sooo much damage to the image of the Fedora, a few people actually came up to me when I walked into a club wearing one (with a wide, flat brim) and straight up asked whether I was an incel.
It's a shame too, large, waterproof felt hats that you can crumple and stuff into your backpack without fear of it loosing form are super handy but I've met quite a couple of people who don't want to wear one due to this newly arisen stigma.
The trench coat has a similar stigma, for different (bloodier) reasons.
My mom bought me one for Christmas and I had to break it to her that there was no way I would wear it because there was wayyyy too much baggage associated with it lol
That Fedora tipping nice guy had more problems than an algebra convention
Honestly the alcohol thing made me chuckle, because really the whole messing with your head thing is a big chunk of the appeal, so in theory not liking that feeling is a perfectly valid reason not to drink. But just the way it was phrased on top of all That Guy's other stuff makes it come off as more performative BS than legitimate.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a red flag on its own, sometimes people recovering from alcohol issues will say dumb things as a refusal because a simple 'no, thank you' is often questioned or pushed on...-
But with the rest of the guy's shit, lol.
Btw, as a fan of MLP, Fluttershy literally gains confidence throughout the seasons and even becomes more self-reliant so that guy fetishized the demure and meek version of Fluttershy that often worked hard to gain a backbone which he obviously ignored or just stopped watching after season 1
Holy shit the new Crab humor has got me rebooked on these stories. He is just RIPPING into this man & I'm here for it!
No joke, Nice Guy(TM) sounds *exactly* like someone I used to be friends with (as in, may be the same person).
Condescending ✓
Mansplanes everything ✓
Argues whenever he loses a game ✓
"FeMiNiSt"? ✓
Won't drink because "brain fog" ✓
"KnIgHt In ShInInG ArMoR"? ✓
Has a fetish for anxiety ridden shy women who barely interact with anyone ✓✓✓✓✓✓✓
All he's missing was the fedora, trenchcoat and mall katana.
@@MK_ULTRA420 He actually owned a trenchcoat, and a katana (I just forgot to put them in the list)
@@ryangottlieb9939 Thanks for the update 😂
What about the fedora?
Or, if he doesn’t buy him one.
I gotta say, flipping the script and having the conspiracy theorist be right about one thing was a great maneuver for getting the party out of that pickle. That's amazing DM skills and something that should be a legend within your play group.
Years ago, I was playing four-way MTG when I casually mentioned, in response to an offer of libations, that I don't drink or smoke. (All three of the other players did both.) One of the other players was taken aback by this statement and asked me if I was a Mormon, which set my best friend howling with laughter.
I used to do a larp with a guy who proclaimed, loudly, about how much of a feminist, but he hated when there was an assertive woman around and he used to jump onto threads discussing Feminist issues just to derail them with "not all men! bullshit.
The final straw was an incident on a crafting Facebook group a friend of mine set up to help with isolation from the pandemic. One of the women posted a embroidery project that read "Have the confidence of a mediocre white man." He started bitching to the mod about how "offensive" it was, while going on about how much of a feminist he was.
He's gone now, not in any groups or Larps I play and that is so so nice. He was a real creep.
Anyone who plays CAH expecting to win with brain power, or lack there of, clearly doesn’t know how the game works.
For those who don’t know, Cards Against Humanity is a simple game where you make someone laugh with extremely funny, and potentially offensive, responses from a white card to whatever prompt they give with a black card.
The One Who Reports For Duty with the notifications on? Checks out.
🦀🎖️ Here's a medal for your duty.
@@CritCrab To battle!
Brain power can help though, yeah being funny helps, but at the end of the day the player that understands the dealer's sense of humour is most likely to win, though in this guy's case, yeah he's just an idiot
There's always someone who straight up DEMANDS the card and kicks up a fuss when they don't get it. Snatching the card is much rarer but still happens.
@@kurosakikun96 Oh absolutely. My family do some very targeted jokes and sometimes they need to be a bit big brained or they can just be “a bigger, blacker dick” and get the win.
I have to say, them ganging up on and killing the Cleric that was causing issues is satisfying. He's not healing anyone, he's not hitting anything, and he's just making the barbarian's job harder. Now that he's dealt with and out of the way permanently, you can do everything else.
God, the polygamy/monogamy argument is one of the few things I'm a centrist on.
Both sides have good points, and both are insufferably smug about their perceived superiority.
I support either type of relationship.
So long as no one is being hurt or forced into it, who cares?
Same, I’m ok with it, so long as everyone in the relationship is ok with it
im very polyamorous, but its a personal decision and everyone should figure out what kind of relationship would work out best for them
@@vivianadelatorre7267 The only good position on this issue is "to each their own, as long as everyone is consenting"
@@Robbay363on most issues, really
I just wanna say, that as a shy introvert. I hope I find some of these people who break away from the "that guys" and finally play through a real dnd campaign. Listening to you talk about what you love about makes me really want to get into it.
I think the key to good D&D is to play with people you already know, like and trust, especially at first. Getting into character can be pretty embarrassing and if you're already anxious the comfort of that space being one you share with people you trust can really, really help. If it's everybody's first game and the rules feel intimidating, don't be afraid to do something rules lite! There's a ton of games out there and while D&D can be dense and intimidating (though 5th ed is more approachable than its predecessors) stuff like GURPS tends to be pretty one-size fits all. The "Beer and Pretzels" genre can be a really good place to start-they're generally very rules lite systems that focus on a one-shot experience, kind of a roleplaying appetizer. Kobolds Ate My Baby was my gateway game and one I recommend, but there's countless games out there for every tone and level of engagement. If you can nab 2-3 people you know and trust and talk them into it, you'll have yourself a homegrown D&D group before long.
It depends really. I have an anxiety disorder but I've always found playing a character to be easier than being myself, having that mask (literal or otherwise) helps make a buffer between your real self and the outside world. And there's a benefit to not playing with people you know at least online, which is if things don't work out you can always just disappear, plus the online aspect again adds distance, especially if you're not doing video, or voice chat. Then again my D&D experience also coincides with me actually getting help with my disorder, so it was probably a merger of all the above for me even though the anxiety is nowhere near gone as of this writing.
To be fair, it sounds like they did try telling him to knock it off OOC multiple times to no avail. Beating him to death in game seemed to be the only way he got the message.
"The party arrives in the throne room through one of the vents"
The party is sus...
Nevermind the story. I admire OP's wife for being brave enough to go to a convention in spite of her social anxiety. May she continue to have the strength to be her quietly brave self.
I had someone try and "protect" my barbarian/wizard multi class and the only thing I said was "I swing indiscriminately" Dude got out the way real quick
I wonder if that guy understood that a good chunk of development fluttershy got throughout the show was becoming more confident and learning to deal with social anxieties
The last story has a pretty funny and epic twist. I had a feeling the monster was hiding amongst them.
you got to hand it to the simp though, he managed to get op's wife to come out of her shell and tell simp off in righteous fury
Bruh it’s gotten to the point where I’m not even surprised at what these creeps do anymore
Jesus Christ that Elon in an edgy trench coat picture in the beginning had me rolling 🤣
I’ve never seen that one before
He's so goofy lmfao
Okay, your personal dming story was fucking great and had me cackling like a lunatic from "That's when I had to fight chaos with chaos" until the end.
Can I just say how much I love the idea of having 2 new players play 1 character between them? That would have helped me out so much when I started.
Man Plixx is lucky.
If I had been the DM, I would have had the queen get up, look at the harpoon and say:
"Well, I never thought anyone would be insane enough to figure this out."
And then she proceeds to grow a bunch of etherial star tentacles.
Although the whale was WAY funnier!
Its nice guys like this that ruin dating for quiet and shy normal decent men.
Worst is the so called "nice guy" probably wasn't quiet and shy either.
Fucker had the audacity to hit a woman in front of husband, if I was the husband, I would beat the shit out of him even if I ended up on jail.
@@edersonnico 100% agreed.
I know it's bad manners for a DM to solve life problems in game, but seriously just don't let people be a problem. Don't let them be able to get out of a bad situation they put themselves in, kill them or imprison them.
Wow, guess you could say this was a cam-PAIN!
I am in cam-pain now after reading this
BOOOOO!
(ba dum tiss)
Yea it's a campain
See, at a certain point the dwarf barbarian needs to drop their weapon, and just wield the cleric, beat the enemy to death with his body until it’s too floppy to use, then leave him there and move on. If he survives, he can heal himself, catch up, and get zero loot, OR, his body can stay there as a warning to the next adventures
Every time I feel my writing isn’t up to snuff or think I’ve seen some heinous shit at my table, I watch CritCrab and feel better than I’ve never seen anything as bad as these.
The avatar must master all four edlermon and save the world lol.
For the longest time I had a Knight in shinning armor complex that lasted from my teens to mid twenties. Looking back, I cringe on how I acted or thought. Inherently, I still don’t believe there’s anything wrong with the tale of a noble warrior saving a damsel in trouble. Yet I have seen how that concept can be twisted for selfish ends. The true noble warrior saves the damsel because she’s in legitimate trouble, not just what the warrior sees as trouble. He does this out of selfless. The damsel is by no means obligated to “reward” the warrior.
In the context of this post, the human fighter is the true noble warrior because he’s supporting his future wife over coming her metal issues. He’s doing this because he wants her to improve as a person and isn’t seeking to control her. That guy is claiming to be pro female empowerment but doesn’t want her to improve?
That guy is more like Jabba the Hutt than Luke Skywalker or Han Solo.
I'm a woman who grew up loving the "knight in shining armor" typ of characters and inspired to be one myself.
But I never thought of it in a romantic, swiping someone you like off their feet, type of trop.
I saw them helping others when they were a in need and showing them that someone cares about them and wants them to be happy, free and protected from harm so that they can flourish, grow and spread that experience to others either by becoming someone to stand up for others as well or by using their ability they were mocked for or were too afraid to use for people who can benefit from it and helping others in ways other's, including myself, couldn't help.
My role models were people like Luke, Einstein, Naruto, Luffy, Steven Hawking, Mary Poppins, Marie Curie, Pippi Langstrumpf, Sam, Éowyn, Aragor and Gandalf from Lord of the Rings and obviously also people I met through my life like the friend of my father who told me to strive for something higher when my self esteem was that bad that I was about to give up on my dreams, my mother who always is there for me when I struggle/-d and listens to it so I can/could process it and gain strength again and my father who supports my ambitions, tells me it's ok to know set backs and take my time while helping me to go forward step by step and many of the people I managed to befriend after a very lonely time when I was a huge outcast in my school with only one friend who my bullies tried to convince to leave me mainly because I was very weird compared to my classmates.
I can't do anything but agree with you and what you wrote about the "knight in shining armor". When viewed "selfish" it's mainly about praises and the feeling of being needed which both aren't bad but also important for healthy self image as long as it's not a demand, an unhealthy expectation or a forced insert in someone's situation that don't actually help them and might even hinder their growth for your own interests as you described. When you help someone it's important to show care about the wants of the person that you help. Making sure they are safe in actual danger or harm has a priority but of it isn't in such a situation you have to listen to what they tell you instead of claiming you know best for them.
Those are the important distinctions and a healthy mindset to life up to the actual knight in shining armor. Someone as noble as that knows when to be humble and just a human or friend when time is right (the majority of time).
Just that *single first note* of the ultra instinct meme over and over killed me
I love how in one line,Nice guy managed to piss off the entire island of ireland
I remember reading this years ago. The "nice guy" story is still just as cringey as I first read it.
I love it when shy people get so fed up with the bullshit they start yelling. I'm one of thoughts shy people but when I yell people tend to listen lmao.
As a poly person in a poly relationship, hearing Nice Guy go off on monogamous people made me cringe so hard I pulled a muscle. Yes it's true that marriage as a political/legal institution has been used to oppress others and yes it's true that Western culture is heavily monogamous-centric, but calling all monogamous people "brainwashed" is some creepy manipulative shit. He sounds like the kind of person who says they're polyamorous when what they really mean is they want an anime harem of questionably legal age
So a toxic-type ex who can’t sit with abusing *one* terribly depressed victim at a time?
Two players controlling one character. There's an idea.
Now see, I love that ending with the conspiracy theory being true, but in that situation? I'd reveal that the Queen was secretly a prawn the whole time.
Cool to get to hear one of your own stories 👍
We had this character, a king who was cursed for all eternity by a cosmic entity trapped in a human body for simping and harassing her publicly despite having a family, even after 5000 years and despite being cursed by her, he claims to still be loyal to her... we all got sick of him and very soon, but our own mr. nice guy started to rant against the goddess for being "a bitch who doesn't understand loyalty and should be taught lessons about love from a real man".
I think calling conflict stupid to someone who has been involved in that conflict deserves to be met with a no strings attached kick to the groin.
This guy is making me more and more sick to my stomach with each and every sentence. He got everything he deserved for his creepy shenanigans.
I realized this sounded familiar and realized it was a story DnD Doge has told. I'm glad to hear CritCrabs take on this 😂
CritCrab warns: "It's dumb."
I'm in!
Gigachad rejects alcohol and the patriarchy, gets punished because we weren't ready for his message.
How has it taken this long for Crit Crab to come across the incel subset of the "white knight"?! It's kind of adorable how he thinks he's the first to discover and define them.
Saw this on Crispy's Tavern. But seeing our crab king's perspective is worth experiencing this again.
nothing screams feminist more than a guy mansplaining for hours
He just wants to make sure all the women in the room are his equals with regards to every fact that crosses his mind /s
The added 'eww' soundbites had me chuckling each time
I hate how Nice Guys have ruined fedoras for the rest of us.
"Y'all are scoundrels! See you on Saturday, bring pizza!" Though I paraphrased a bit, this sentiment resonates with me HARD! I've said it and heard it more than once in very similar words!😂
You trying to tell us something crit? That close up zoom was a pregnant crab 0:11
I come back to this video periodically just because this is the best thumbnail you've ever made.
Suffer not the "Nice Guy", the Incel, or the Simp.
Then again, I can barely tell these people apart these days anyways, their toxicness comes from the same place.
As a fan of Fluttershy, I see her social anxiety as a relatable flaw at best and I cheer whenever I see her overcome it. What I like is her kindness and, more relevantly, her demonstrating that it's possible to overcome social anxiety.
Oh my Fauci so true I relate. I have social anxiety too and cope by watching little girl cartoons but I feel better when my wife's boyfriend buys me a Nintendo switch.
@@stockimageguy8941wait a second something smells fishy here
Laughed my ass off at the space whale story, safe to assume that wasn't your original plan lol
I both am from and live in N.Ireland... the troubles was no joke, and the scars still linger. I remember the army patrolling the streets with rifles and not being able to get the train due to a bomb on the tracks, my uncle nearly lost his business and his life to a bomb too because he was a Protestant in a Catholic area, thankfully it didn't go off...
Hearing someone who didn't have to live through that horrible time say it was "stupid" is just a walking red flag....
We're whalers on the moon
We carry a harpoon
But there ain't no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing a whaling tune
Yeah this isn't a 'rare variant', it's every single outspoken male feminist
The response of op to alcohol is something I find stupid. He has a good point. Alcohol is poison. Refusing alcohol isn't a problem
I got the impression it was more the condescension that bugged OP than the refusal. If you don't drink, you can just say so without an implied insult to everyone who does.
Thanks to the comments warning about the sounds, I almost had this play without headphones on.
The added stock sounds at 5:44 are correct 😢
I don’t know what it is about conspiracies and whales but I love it. I got an entire pirate crew to believe that one of the other PCs was a werewhale.
The worst part is, is that I used to BE this type of guy in high school although not quite to the degree he his. overly feminist, flaunting my ideas and smartness. I've gotten rid of those traits now as I look back and think how dumb I must have looked (although I still support women's rights of course). This story proves that some guys just won't take the hint like I did eventually.
I'm a big believer that's it's great for men to support feminism. But you should be very wary of men who go out of their ways to tell you they're a feminist.
I didn’t know what a feminism was in High School. When I found out, and more specifically found out how many people had to have conscientiously lied to me about the generic term for any supporter of women’s rights, I was furious. I’ve stayed furious. American schooling is fucked.
This is the funniest.
Especially the monogamy and marriage thing, listening to you satirize that was incredibly refreshing