Nick's Guide to fixing centering on Pocketknife blades
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2016
- Today, a quick video talking about my four favorite strategies for fixing pocketknife blade centering:
1) Disassembly
2) Adjusting the pivot torque
3) Re-tightening with the blade at 90º
4) Wedging the blade during reassembly
But remember, sometimes, knives are just poorly made, and centering just isn't gonna happen. Also, the knife is by Blue Ridge knives, not Bark River. I can't talk. - Навчання та стиль
Every time i have an issue with centering i come back to reference this video and it gets my knife perfect, thank you
CyberMagician same here
Nick, I CANNOT thank you enough I tried everything to center my spydiechef, tried the 90 degree angle trick and it is now perfect! It was driving me nuts and I really do appreciate this!
Nick, you have the BEST video on this subject. Some of my viewers are asking for the same info and I just tell them to watch your video because I cannot make a video that says it any better or clearer.
+Canadian Cutting Edge Thanks!
Nick, your a knife saver. My CRKT M16-01Z came from the factory with a really sticky pivot. After allowing appropriate time to let it break in, if that happened to the problem, the problem was still there. So I got myself some oil took the knife apart oil the nylon washers and now it's good to go. The only problem is that in the disassembly and reassembly my knife got very off-centered somehow. I I was getting frustrated and was ready to call the manufacturer when I saw your video. I tried your 90-degree trick and boom perfect centering. Thanks again Nick
+Matthew Molloy This comment brings me joy, thanks!
This video was very helpful. I was able to fix a blade centering problem on my Kershaw Dividend using the wedge method and loosening the pivot and scale screws then re-tightening. I had the knife apart multiple times flipping the washers over in every possible combination and I couldn't get it perfect until I did this method.
I was so excited I thought the Z Hunter was gonna be in this one
Great video nick. Love watching your channel evolve and progress. Keep it up.
I have tried these tweeks in the past and find them futile, once you start using the knife the parts will once again settle back to their most stable position and centering is lost. Your best bet is to try and handpick a sample with good centering out of the box. Yes Benchmade I am looking at you.
Agreed there, you can only keep a turd polished for so long. But a bit of blue loctite is a beautiful thing to help lock it in as long as possible.
Kyle Schaan agree with this. I can center my rajah 2 and open and close it many times and it stays there. Only a few light chops and it goes way off into the liner. Somehow something is off unfortunately sending to the states overseas for warranty work is not cheap and I can't trust cold steel to send me faulty again. Sigh
Nick Shabazz that’s how it is with my mini grip. I cannot do anything to get it centered and stop from rubbing the right side.
The right way is get a machinist's straightedge and make the frame halves straight.
Thanks for such a helpful and informative video. Just fixed a Boker that had confounded me for years using your methods.
I was close to this solution, you nailed it Nick, Thank You. Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites....The Jack-Assy- Espada XL review was effing Epic.
Thanks for the video Nick! I took my Fox knives Tur 528 apart for cleaning and a little oil. I have had the thing apart about six times since and can't get the centering right for some reason, I've tried everything. After I watched this video I did the pry trick. Now it is almost perfect,just a little of but almost perfect. I can live with that. Thanks for the tips. Yesterday I took my spyderco mantra apart for cleaning and put it back together and the centering was perfect, first time. Gotta love spyderco.
HAHA... "So you send it back to, Benchmade." That was hilarious! Great video... thank you.
This may be a six year old video but I was able to figure out the problem less than two minutes in. Thank you my friend!
Thanks Nick! My Kershaw Thistle was having bad blade play and the centering was so off that the blade started to rub the scales. Luckily I started with the pivot like you suggested, and its now centered MUCH better and has zero blade play. Stay sharp bud!
Tricks of the trade, thanks Nick. Gonna try this on my ZT 0460.
Thanks nick this worked. My beater kershaw is now perfectly centered.
after trying 6 videos here you are the first who covered all aspects - thank you ! new subscriber ;-)
Great video. I'll be sure to try this on a couple of knives. Keep videos like this one coming.
Your method works!! Thanks Nick, great info!
I'm late to the party on this as I'm newly building my budget and mid level knife collection. Worked perfectly on my kershaw Emerson cqc. Been loving catching up on all your vids. Thanks a bunch
Thank you so much for this video Nick. I went through a fixed blade phase because I can't stand folders having play or being off centered. Never once did I think fiddling with the scale screws and wedging were possible solutions.
This worked for my Spyderco Rubicon 2. either the pins were bent a tiny bit or the holes in the liners were not lined up perfectly but the slight twist (I believe) caused the blade to be significantly off center with the proper torque on the pivot pin. loosening the screws and then tightening them with the blade half open solved the problem. Thanks for posting this video.
I was able, after five years, to get my Kershaw Oso Sweet centered. I thought is was a goner. Thanks for the video Nick!
You are my hero Nick!
Good video nick! Definitely helps with centering!
You would think that the "high end" folders would have ZERO off centering issues because of the ungodly price you pay for them! Doesn't make alot of sense if you ask me! Just my opinion 😊
The relationship between price and quality is not always there
I have a Boker Kwaiken that got off center after a tear down, and cleaning. I thought I tried everything. You're suggestion to put the blade at °90 was the trick. Thank you very much!
Worked like a charm!
I recommend a drinking straw as the wedge. you can fold it into various thicknesses and it's relatively springy against the blade
Knife fixed at 1:42!!! You’re awesome, thank you!!!!!
Thanks Nick! Great video
Love this vid! Thanks so much- now my bailout is centred at least!
Hey! Your tips worked for my Rat 2..the cardboard trick and re-tightening the scale screws (both sides) back to front it is now perfectly centered..
Thank you so much! Finally centered my XM-18!
found your channel last night cleaning and assembly of the griptillian subscribed
thanks for the video Nick. I had my mini griptilian apart after sharpening today and tried again for another hour to get the damn blade centered on this thing to no avail. typical benchmade stuff but I love the knife so I put up with it. i think I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and send it in and hope for the best when they return it. I've lost track of how many hours I've spent trying to center it's blade. you mentioned a couple things I haven't tried here so I'll give those a shot and see what happens.
great advice Lenny!
Thanks, Nick!! Your video here got my "OCT 06" (I'm guessing that's the blade manufacture date -- my knife collector/knife addict uncle gave me this one for Christmas many years back, and it seems like it was around then, I know before 2008, and it has been my daily carry for field work in very dirty & harsh conditions from 2011 to today) Kershaw 1670TBLKST (looks like maybe "Tanto Blur?" -- it has the 50/50 blade, 1/2 sheep's foot, 1/2 angular straight edge) working like new again!!!! My main problem, which spurred me to fix my knife, was that the blade had only been springing open about 40 to 50% rotation for about the past year. I had become tired of manually completing the blade opening with a flick of the wrist every single time I was using it -- that's a little dangerous, too, as I think about it. I opened my knife up (meaning, disassembly) and it was just PACKED with soil and grass and crud -- I felt pretty certain upon discovery that the opening issue was likely just due to all the crap that had accumulated inside; I carefully inspected the torsion bar, pivot washers, etc. I cleaned EVERYTHING thoroughly with warm, soapy water, then applied some penetrating oil in appropriate places, then white lithium grease in those other key places. I then reassembled, using a few UA-cam videos on that knife, specifically, as education. I was having trouble achieving the right balance of (1) proper opening action, (2) minimal blade play, and (3) closed blade centering (and, really, prioritized in that order). I watched this other video by another user first on blade centering ( ua-cam.com/video/gz28BrMc9l0/v-deo.html ) and it helped -- only slightly. My very next video was this one, Nick, and within 10 minutes I had my 14-year old Kershaw working just like new with PERFECT action, ZERO significant blade play (there will always be SOME measurable amount, no matter how minute/tiny -- just the mechanics of a folding blade), and PERFECTLY CENTERED when closed (of course, when open, too, but it's when closed that you can see the degree of centering). You have a brilliant skill, Nick!! Thanks for sharing it with us in your videos (I watched another of yours, too, in the course of this little project)!
i took my brand new knife apart because i wanted a smoother opening action. cleaned it all up and aplied white lithium grease to all rubbing parts. the action was horrible after tightening it up and had to have the pivot screw almost falling out to get the same action it had when i took it out of the package. i took it all apart, cleaned it all up and this time i used lube made for yo-yos. now it works better than new. i would take it back apart and clean off all white lithium grease and use some sort of yoyo lube. the lube i used is yomega brain lube but i dont think you can buy it anymore.
Great video l'm going to try this out on a frame lock that wasn't perfect to begin with but got worse the more I carried it.
I just got an expensive PM 2 Sprint run and was upset to see the blade way over on the liner. Adjusting the pivot didn’t help, but after disassembly and cleaning I tweaked the 4 scale screws and that did it, pulled the blade to dead center. I tightened each screw randomly and after many openings the blade hasn’t moved. Thanks for the tip, had no idea the scale screws could affect centering!
I just got a blue G-10 s110v Manix 2 with centering issues. I need to do the dreaded disassembly anyway to upgrade the ball cage. Really hope it centers the blade when I reassemble it.
Need to try these techniques on my spyderco Shaman. Blade is off center towards the clip side. I'm waiting on a replacement pivot screw. I was able to disassemble the knife's show side but when I tried to unscrew the clip side pivot screw it wouldn't budge. Tried heating it up and using a boker/Wiha stubby driver that you can get a lot of torque on but it still wouldn't move. In my effort I ended up stripping the T8 pivot screw. I then tried using a T9 and that stripped it even more. Was ready to send it to spyderco. In a rare instance of ingenuity on my part, I hammered a T10 bit into the screw and was then able to unscrew it. I have no idea why it was so impossibly tight, there was no obvious thread locker on the screw.
I feel the video would have been better if it was 15 seconds longer.
+BirdShot IV Huge financial opportunity missed.
BirdShot IV why!!!
Troll!!
14 seconds for even 10 minutes
sometimes you could also switch washers around and it will help.
Sergiy Baturov CC c
i was wondering about that. my crk has a brass or copper washer on one side and PLASTIC washer on the other.
@@dirtrider88 Chris Reeve Knives or CRKT? Chris Reeve uses phosphor bronze.
@@Crusty_Otter crkt
Great advice! Thanks!
I'll try to use this info on my new 2.75 Shamwari from Gareth's recent batch. The blade appears to favor the the scale side or opposite to the lockbar side. Thank you for the advice.
So does my Zancudo, I got it today and the blade is diagonal over to the scale side. Unfortunately none of Nick's suggestions helped :(
Thanks shabazz, went to Walmart and got the the bits and centered both my Nomad and sheepdog. Then changed my spyderco resilience clip to right side-tip up.
Have you ever reviewed the kizer nomad? It's a very slick knife.
Rua~~~THX....This is very helpful for me
Wait I'm confused.... you said Bark River but that's an esee
Gavin Reddig Esse is a camp school; that's a knife made under their camp folding knife specifications by BRK.
n antip Wait what
Yeah, I screwed up last time. It's by Blue Ridge Knives, but for ESEE. But I read "BRK" as Bark River. Because I can't talk.
Nick Shabazz Well u learn something every day
Gavin Reddig It stands for Blue Ridge Knives rather than Bark River in this case. A Bark River folder would be awesome.
Hi Nick and thanks for the video.
I have the Fallkniven PXL in Ivory Micata and it bothers me that my blade is offcenter.
It came second hand and disassembled and no matter how many different ways I assemble it the blade is off to one side. I've thought about sending it back to Fallkniven but just didn't want to risk it getting lost or confiscated on it's return to the UK. We have some strange laws right now!!
I am also unsure of the best way to sharpen this blade without messing it up as the stainless 3G laminate powder steel has a HRC of 62.
These two things means mine just stays in the draw most of the time.
Great video and thanks for showing, I'll give some of your ideas a try when I next get some time.
Very best Gray
Great slams on hinderer knives !
I get motion sickness when you keep waving your hand around. :) I enjoy watching your maintenance videos.
My Zancudo came out of the box with the blade sitting at a diagonal so it was just about touching the scale on the other side (whereas yours still had a gap in the beginning) . Tried all your fixes Nick, but I'm afraid its a no go. Does extreme off-centreing mean that the knife will be damaged, ultimately?
Pain in the ass on a Benchmade Fact…long blade…plus only one side has the screw head , the other has no screw head… but your advice helped. Didn’t want to take it apart as I’ve never taken apart a Benchmade, but tweaking the screws connecting the handle panels helped.. Thanks.
as a centering snob, i seem to always find a way to fix all my knives even the budget blades
Somehow that 90° one helped a little more with my stubborn Buck rush
Thanx Nick.
Hey Nick, how do you feel about the Zancudo/Avispa vs. the Ontario Rat series? I know the Rats are gems but I was just wondering how they compare.Thanks🍻
Awesome!
Alright Nick, that's the second time I've heard you say that Bark River makes the Zancudo. I think that an OEM called Blue River Knives actually produces it in some way that is vaguely related to esee.
Good timing on this, Nick. You'll be SHOCKED to find out that I have a week old Benchmade 940-1 with seriously ugly centering. Still actually considering sending it in. Thought you'd get a laugh at that, considering your QC comments :)
+Tackleberry Hah. Send it in. Make them deal with it
So I found this interesting, & maybe someone can help me with this?
I just got my first Spyderco today, a Tenacious off Amazon.
I wanted to change the pocket clip for tip-up carry, so I did, & afterwards I noticed the blade centering was significantly off.
So I watched a couple videos on how to fix this, including this one, & after following all the steps nothing was working.
It became frustrating enough after over an hour that I resigned myself to returning the knife, & I was feeling really bummed while I changed the pocket clip back to its original position.
Then I noticed it: the blade centering was almost perfect after putting the pocket clip back in factory position!
I had trouble believing this at first, but I again tried adjusting the pocket clip screws, & they were clearly having a positive effect on the blade centering.
So my question is, is this normal at all? I've decided I'm going to just keep the knife since it fixed the problem (not to mention that I now realize I can access & open the blade more easily with the factory tip-down position). I just thought it was weird that this is what fixed it, & I haven't heard mention of it anywhere in blade centering videos I've found so far.
Thanks for reading all this! 😀
and then Nicky pins it to the top 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What is your Torx screwdriver?
I know this is an older video, but if you happen to see this I'm hoping you can answer me.
When you are adjusting screws like this, wouldn't you want to add some blue loctite and then get it adjusted the best you can while it's still wet?
At what price does it become unreasonable to expect a new knife blade to be centered? I got an SCHA7 and it's super off center. It's an expensive knife for me, but know it's considered lower end in the hobby, so not sure if I'm being too finicky to expect it to be reasonably centered and not sure whether to send it back
Thanks! 👍👍👍
I have a benchmade proxy that's pretty off center and nothing I have tried has worked. Will they warranty an off center blade?
I've got a Benchmade 940 with 65/35 blade centering. The knife is perfect in every other way so I just thought F**K IT - who cares? This method works for me perfectly.....
Any fix for a liner lock that has an extra click when opening?
Where do you find a T5 or T6.
All my set only got to 10 or 8.
Tried all this on my Rat 1 which I've hardly used and the tension screws are tightened all the way and the blade still wobbles while open.
You should really review either the benchmade bedlam or crooked river I have herd great things about both of these knifes expecially the crooked river
You tease us with the Z-Hunter and then don't show it? You're a cold man, Nick. :)
My kershaw skyline, which is discontinued now, is either too loose and centered with blade play or centered, no blade play and waaaay too tight no matter what i do. So frustrating
It could be a problem on High end Knives also, I just sent my anthem back to bench made because the blade came out of the box off center
"Some knives are just not centered" Similar to most mother-in-laws. : )
I'm so new at this but what's the name of the tool needed to adjust the pivot? My kizer sheepdog arrived uncentered.
+F G Type Zero 0 Check my Kizer Sheepdog disassembly. Torx driver, I think T8
I'll watch that video, I d believe it just got a little loose. I bought a bad blood dreadnaught to practice taking a knife completely apart.
Are you able to get your hands on the kizer megatherium and kizer mjolnir for review?
Change in the pocket can play hell on blade centering,when it gets wedged next to the blade and rides all day in the pocket that way.
How about on a traditional slipjoint (like a Case or GEC)?
My sebenza 25 is a PIA to balance all those.
What's the tool you're using? Thx
cardboard...yeah its a magical thing
Exactly what I want to know!
He uses a wiha kit.
Wiha 75985 is the torx pen.
Wiha 75992 is the full kit.
It's a smaller bit size and interchangeable with few drivers. But it's sturdy.
Have a knife problem? Find Batman! lol
Seriously, I just bought a blue G-10 Manix 2 that I'd been drooling over for months, only to find the blade a bit off center when I unboxed it. Annoying at this price point but I doubt Sal and Eric would send out a warped s110v blade so I'm hopeful your tips will correct it. I'm planning on a partial disassembly to clean and lube then upgrade the ball cage to Flytanium copper anyway... pray for me Nick! lol
nice
Hallo, danke für das tolle Video,👍🔔 💖 bleib gesund, see you later. Liebe Grüße Siggi und Marianne💖
"This is excellent, I have a problem here" 😁
wedging is a good idea and as you said most knives don't have this problem I say spend a little more on a knife
what tje I have a Shiro 111 worth 500 bucks originally that has this problem.
what tje Originally.
anyone now how to center a switch blade. AGA swing guard , Frank b swing guard? bugging the shit out of me not having these cemterd
Thanks for the video but sadly nothing worked to make the Ganzo Firebird FH11 to stop rubbing against the scales after trying for more than 1h, not worthy to be in my collection →🗑
So there’s still hope for my kershaw CQC7 and dare I say my Cricket Razel...
Would it be wrong to send a knife back because of this
Not in my mind.
I have several benchmade knives and have no problem with any of them. I have to say they are at the youngest 2 years old and i keep hearing that lately their QC is starting to suck which bothers me. my newest benchmade has no problems and i bought it nib in the back of a local gun shop hidden behind bags of idc what because i saw knives and moved the bags and there sat a few models brand new discontinued BM knives and thw one i had to get was the first production mini Rukus. I had wanted that knife since it came out and before i knew they were limited they were all gone and i couldnt bring myself to pay $400+ after market price. it was marked for $230 talked they guy down to $200 flat. to me that knife out of any is and will probably always be my grail shelf queen above any other knife i own two or three times the price of it. butter smooth opening, no play, perfectly centered, and feels great in the hand even the it looks blocky. none of the hardware is through the liners either. i hear thats a big problem with BM nowadays which again sucks but no single one of us can talk them into better QC sadly..
I will watch this later on if I have a knife that has bad centering
Well thanks for checking in.
The right way is get a machinist's straightedge and make the frame halves straight.
There's another trick to push up with the right side and pull down with the left with the screws loose
Also wanted to mention another trick which I used. I loosened everything and 90 deg blade. I would first tighten the pivot to wear there is no blade play and it's centered when inspecting. Then I would slowly screw in the scale screws keeping an eye of the blade when it's closed. Some of the screws would knock it off center. Maybe some kind of warping. So I wouldn't tighten them all the way right just use lock tite. And slowly work my way to the last farthest scale screw and only screw in enough to not make it off.
This was in some cheap titanium Chinese knife.
it is not excuse for bad centering. cheap civivis and bestechs are always perfectly centered, and are 50 usd knives.
I think some of this stuff has been given overdue relevance by people, like me, who spend more time talking about knives than using them. There are many. I can admit it.
I hate when a knife is super finicky on the pivot man does it bother me lol
bark river zancudo
i dropped one of mine and now its super fucked like wayyy off