@@SaevusFlorus It's the Magic: The Gathering symbol! It changes color depending on how long you've been a UA-cam member for CGB's channel. I"ve been one for 2 months so mine is silver for now.
Haaaah - finally got my Kaldheim Stuff delivered (a lot of snow during the last week in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany and yeah the City I live in is basically Texas in a Nutshell - two centimeters of snow and nothing goes) , opened the boosters and thought to myself "Uhm, nice!" And now this :) I have all the cards in paper for this deck - so with a vicous smile I picked the most obnoxious Pink Card Sleeves I have and happly sleeving those cards while enjoying this video
Trey i get that the deck takes a little thought to pilot but I'm pre internet kind of old school and really don't get at all hyped copying a deck others crafted, would rather take my knocks but work at putting my own ideas to work for me. I KNOW that's just not how it works anymore for most but it is for me. ✌ man and have FUN, however you may go about doing so. ;)
I've found having elder gargaroth as a 1 or 2 of is very useful for searching up against aggro decks, especially since the deck doesn't really have any life gain otherwise, which can be a problem if you are within stomp range of lethal. Also vorinclex is very bad in the main deck, searching it up with tibalt doesn't really work since the opponent can just give you alrund's + vorinclex, which gives you a lot of aggression but no card advantage, which might not be a problem if this wasn't a control deck. Because it is a control deck the opponent is usually at 20 life even at turn 7, which means that the 14 damage you can get in with the vorinclex + alrund's isn't lethal and can basically be answered by heartless act, which is not what you want your seven mana sorcery to be. However it's actually amazing post - sideboard in the mirror match, since after boarding out heartless act the deck pretty much has zero answers, given that its removal at that point consists of sagas and planeswalkers, which don't work against vorinclex. I've already won one very funny game where I played turn five vorinclex and simply beat face for the next four turns while my opponent dug for answers they didn't have.
nice idea, I'll give it a try. I learned the hard way that problem with vorinclex. But I think alrund is also not very good, so I cut 1 from my list, tibalt, vorinclex and seagate is often the choice that I gi e to my opponent now. some shark typhoon can also be pretty good in most matchups.
Beating the lantern deck to death with it's own lantern... forcing them to sacrifice their own Ugin... them running disenchant... I wonder if I'll ever see a game like this on MTGA again!
Same thing as activating a coating before casting karn so that they cant respond before you get to activate the ability. I guess he didnt get punished.
Sultai Yorion! Aka Dimir with Green! or Simic with Black! or Golgari with Blue! 0:16 Good part starts 4:55 Dedication 5:18 Lets dive in! 10:28 Game 2 19:33 Game 3 27:56 Game 4 32:07 Game 5 47:07 Game 6 52:43 Best part starts
I’m getting so bored of rogues that I’m finding myself just instant conceding rather than bother with them. I crafted the deck on release day like a kid at Christmas and now it makes me nauseous 🤮
I mean a Rogues deck sounded cool at the time and I was excited too. But combining mill+counter+destroy cards is pretty lame! Not what I thought Rogues do
@@RobbieB2606 So what you’re saying is that, when I see Rogues, I should open UA-cam on my phone and rope. I’ll try that instead. Thanks for the great advice!
It doesn’t matter what side of politics you’re on, I think we can all agree that “what a loser” comment to the first player who scooped using rogues was well deserved.
Why, though? The roping/emoting people is one thing, but this opponent simply used the spells they had and then scooped when the game was effectively over.
@@perlundgren7797 The opponent really had no strategy other than to cancel spells. And once he exhausted the majority of his counters on dink spells he scooped because he realized he was terrible at playing decks he netted from the internet
To be honest, one shouldn't be able to cast Tibalt when finding Valki with the ultimatum. The texts says (and explicitly implies) only mono coloured, in the same way they just updated the Cascade rule so you can't cast Tibalt when hitting Valki after cascading a 3 or more CMC card. My two cents.
While I understand your logic, cascade gave you the ability to cast tibalt on turn 3. Emergent gives your opponent the choice to allow you to cast tibalt + a freebie on turn 7 for a fairly restrictive cost. Shit ain't the same imo
@@saturninewyrd But turn 3 or not, in Cascade the rules says you can cast cards with lesser CMC when cascading. Valki is 2 CMC and Valki and Tibalt are the same card, so you should be able to do so. However they changed it, precisely 'cause it was not logical since each side of the card has its own different CMC, 2 and 7 respectively (and different colour too, mind you), they had to fix it so the ruling fits what the mechanic is actually saying and be more consistent, logical and intuitive. In the same way, Ultimatum says mono-coloured cards. You should only be able to cast the mono-coloured part, that's what the mechanic is actually saying. It being "fair or unfair, broken or not" is irrelevant here, but consistency and intuitive, logical results based on the ruling. Edit: If Tibalt would be only red, or only black, then it would be fine, but is multi-coloured, hence it makes no sense with Ultimatum.
OK - so as always CGB, I love your videos. Please keep 'em coming. I myself had been having a lot of trouble on ladder with the current meta, including, among others, this deck as well. A few days ago I managed to come up with a Mono Blue deck which can deal with his deck and has relatively good matchups vs almost any other deck, weaker against heavy aggro decks. I don't know the win rate, but on Sunday I was in diamond 4, and now I got to mythic so was pretty good; I would say at least 60%. I am even tempted to call this deck "the Answer" as CGB likes to term the decks that can defeat anything, generally. So here goes: 4 X Ascendant spirit - really chip and great mana dump whenever you can. If it lives after it comes down, also really good against mono red and white (green can get too big for it, but sometimes not); 3 X Bind the monster - one mana "removal"; gets through those pesky indestructible creatures and really helps stabalize the deck against aggro; 2X lofty Denial; 2X negate; 4 Brazen Borrower; 1X Cosima, God of the Voyage - not a must, but a good body to block and helps draw cards, and/or the omenkeel can really be clutch to crew it with the ascendant spirit and get more lands; 1X midnight clock - slight ramp and/or card draw and/or anti rogues; 2X mystical dispute; 4X saw it coming; 2X whirlwind denial - amazing card for the meta i think, can stop planeswalker abilities, faceless havens turning into creatures, sagas, and of course counter spells (the most fun is countering an adventure spell along with the edgewall innkeeper draw). 2X rewind - I think this is important as there are times when you have to be able to use more mana than you have to counter two spells or bring out the borrower after a counter to put pressure; 3X voracious Greatshark; 3X shark typhoon; 2X sublime epiphany; 2X Sea gate restoration; 19X snow covered lands; 4X Faceless havens; Hope this helps somebody, and that no one gets upset at the long message.
Went against this deck yesterday evening with me playing a budget simic kicker deck (the same I crafted for €6 on paper lol) and won. It was a cool match: opponent casted the ultimatum 3 times :D
@@isaz2425 i run 0 counters on that deck:opponent always picked vorinclex, alrund's epiphany, tibalt or the exile all 3cmc or less: with 3/4 dragon's nests on board you get a bunch of 2/2 flyers each time you kick a spell so I just needed to not give him extra turns
This deck works really well I have been running it for a few weeks now. The main issue is you get too many bombs in your hand or run out of fetch targets.
I have been playing the version you showed on stream with Toski. Love swinging in with Toski and 2 birds to draw 3. Feel like Im winning the game then, who cares about Kiora BTSG and Tibalt.
I think what would frustrate me a lot more when playing this deck than playing against aggro is playing the mirror match. Unless I'm really land screwed, matching up removals against mono-red's threats and stuff is like a relaxing game of solitaire, and when I do stabilize it feels really nice. That's something about Magic that I'll always appreciate that will never go away, no matter what the meta is. On the other hand, the mirror match is just "hi yes i drew my ultimatum first please concede now". Enough of those, and I'll start thinking about how to make my own anti-Ultimatum deck.
I *was* rooting for them up until they played the Ugin. But I guess if you're trying to make janky colorless cards work in a competitive capacity, that's where you stick it.
Crafted this deck and it’s pretty much 50/50. And he’s right, it’s very tough against mono white. If you don’t draw your sweepers you get run over pretty quickly. What I found out is the best way to counter these small aggro decks is to ultimatum into Shadows’ Verdict, Extinctjon Event, and Eliminate or Heartless Act. It’s the only way to guarantee you get out of that mess.
I dont normally like most meta decks however, i do love this one. Unfortunately my wildcards are almost non existent. My heart broke durring the F2k tournament when mono white destroyed everything. (Already hated facing mono white)
Had a fun with this one a bit.. first few games were great than the almighty shuffler algorithms kicked in they had all the perfect curves and drawes and i kept getting shit hands and no ultimatums ...still love how the game just doesnt let u win or even have a chance
@@getlooky736 I personally took out one elspeth's nightmare and added burning rune demon... I also took out two shadow's verdict and put 2 negate spells to help fight against either ramp decks or decks with a counters waiting. I have been having a lot of success with this deck plus the changes!!!
Interesting that the top deck right now doesn’t have any cards from Eldraine (except Fabled Passage, but that’s so ubiquitous I almost forgot) despite the set being so pushed and overrepresented in Standard for such a long time. A Valki rules change to prevent casting the Tibalt off of ultimatum might edge it out though. Are you sure that his deck isn’t supposed to have a Henge or an Embercleave in it?
I think both of those cards are very good in creature heavy decks, but this deck has 4 total creature spells in it - 5 if you count kbtsg. That means the cards are blanks outside of casting them off of ultimatum. Saying that, getting to embercleave a vorinclex does sound like a lot of fun
I have a deck I want you to try, where do I go to send it in? Found a REALLY fun mardu snow yoriom kroxa build. Kardurs saga curves very well with omen of sun and ecd
I think the point of ultimatum's monocolor restriction is mostly to prevent it from casting an other ultimatum, so this combo isn't much more broken than expected during the card design. while cascade would let you play a card much more expensive, and therefore much more broken than planned, very early in the game. I think that's why they had to change the rule for cascade and not for ultimatum.
Yoooooooooo Add solve the equation to this deck from Strixhaven and it makes it insane, basically gives you 4 more chances to pull emergent. I got screwed in a game where i had 20 lands out and still didnt pull an emergent, so i looked into the new packs and found a spell fetch that works insanely well with this.
This is because of Vorinclex which doubles all counters. For sagas it means you immediately get two counters triggering both the 1st and 2nd chapter. Opposite is true for your opponent where sagas do nothing as all counters are halved rounded down :)
was because of vorinclex adding the second counter when it came into play. Vorinclex doubles counters if you play a permanent that gets counters. Halves those that opponents play. That's why their sagas never get any counters on them if you have vorinclex out on your side.
@@danieledman5826 I like to carry at least 1 Stroke, and will be upping my Dispute count. I’m on a Yorion pile which is why I was thinking of upping the Disdainful count.
Disdainful stroke and weathered runestone. I already maindeck 4 negates and 4 see it coming and 4 mystical disputes but the ultimatum decks still destroy me. Miscast doesn’t help as much because the have so much mana they can cover the cost and miscast doesn’t hit planeswalkers or Kiora.
@@Amphok They made aggro too strong because control is too strong. They just keep making both ends stronger, meanwhile midrange decks are left in between wondering how to build vs both extremes. It's so annoying to try and pilot anything that doesn't try to kill by turn 3 or can't play a wincon by turn 5/6. Once you start optimizing your fun brewed deck you always end up being either more aggro or way more control at which point you probably turn it into a Yorion pile.
@@matthoward6130 i don't want to fill my deck with boring removal just to stop aggro from letting me ramp to my lovely genesis ultimatum, the problem is just the stupid embercleave
HEy CGB, what do you think of playing the llanowar visionary instead of cultivate? Yorion loves the visionary and even if he gets killed it is a 2 for 1.
one of the problems with that is that this deck wants to cast ultimatum as early as possible, and for that you need color fixing. cultivation lets you fetch the colors that you need, while the elf doesn't.
@@isaz2425 I can see that. I haven't had any issues with mana fixing with all the triomes and card draw. But I am running 4 mazemind tomes and less interaction than CGB
@@lifeisawesome1391 ok, maybe this deserves a try then. especially since it gives a blocker against aggro (although bonecrusher removes it very easily, and white can quickly become too big to trade )
As someone who just downloaded the game about 6 hours ago, I have no idea what I'm watching. I have the white deck that heals a lot. But UA-cam recommends, right?
the way you just demolished the red deck at 25 minutes may have been one of your all time best magic moments. you should publish it seperately as a warning to monored players
Why did CGB take 3 damage for killing terror of the peaks at 12:54? I must be missing something because why would he take 3 damage from a heartless act.
Just played against a version of this deck but it had no chance against my abzan- yorion- blinky shenanigans. Got lucky but they resolved 3 seegates, an epithany and a kiora and I had no trouble dealing with them. Also, does anyone else think that alrunds epithany is one of the most annoying cards in this set?
@@lifeisawesome1391 I guess the disruption does not count but I agree, sultai Yorion should be better but I think it is kinda close. Too many counters can really hurt you in bo1, though.
Good thing about the deck is that you can sideboard really well against it. It struggles a lot vs any combination of Goldspan and counters. Even if you run creatures, Duress helps a lot because if you just take their payoff, the deck struggles to do anything. Might be powerful but the gameplan is too linear and easy to attack in competitive formats in my opinion.
I play it and it's usually fine, after side I have more counterspells to deal with the oponent's ones, and extinction event, yorion and shark typhoon to deal with the dragon.
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The fact that an Emergent Ultimatum deck is meta right now brings me no small amount of joy.
I noticed and got a warm fuzzy feeling
It reminds me of tooth and nail decks
@@ShredPenguins yep, queue up against it 3 or 4 times in a row.
unrelated but what is the member thing next to your username? Never seen it before
@@SaevusFlorus It's the Magic: The Gathering symbol! It changes color depending on how long you've been a UA-cam member for CGB's channel. I"ve been one for 2 months so mine is silver for now.
48:20 I’ve been playing this game for so long I forgot that “duress” is just an actual word and not only a magic card
I taught my daughter the word "prowess" today: when you play an instant or sorcery... sorry, skill...it just means skill.
CGB casts Emergent Ultimatum: Choose from among these 3 options
Opponent: I choose 4. SCOOP
I'm surprised they stayed after the first cast.
Lol Embercleaving monored was perfection. 11/10
beating the oponent with his own stuff is the most satisfying thing about this deck :)
Haaaah - finally got my Kaldheim Stuff delivered (a lot of snow during the last week in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany and yeah the City I live in is basically Texas in a Nutshell - two centimeters of snow and nothing goes) , opened the boosters and thought to myself "Uhm, nice!"
And now this :)
I have all the cards in paper for this deck - so with a vicous smile I picked the most obnoxious Pink Card Sleeves I have and happly sleeving those cards while enjoying this video
feeling this had the same issues in north rhine-westphalia, but the pulls were insane
Wait til you look at all those lands in the packs. There's just snow everywhere these days!
19:15 I am always impressed with the way CGB can read random opponents in the ladder so perfectly!
We need the official mono-red song before Eldraine rotates
ua-cam.com/video/s5rzbttiMxA/v-deo.html
All we need now is to have CGB do some more lyrics :D
Thanks for communicating your train of thought in these. It's helped improve my game tremendously. Preciate ya
I really like when CGB plays these kind of decks. They are tangentially controlly, yet they have a cool payoff and some nice field interaction.
Oh I've been looking forward to this episode since Koma Kai Sultai High
"What a Loser" HAHA! LOVE the honesty about the Rogues player
@@traycarrot nah rogues suck lmao
@@traycarrot well he's probably more a loser because scooping after 1/5 spells got not countered, but anyway: rogues suck!
Trey i get that the deck takes a little thought to pilot but I'm pre internet kind of old school and really don't get at all hyped copying a deck others crafted, would rather take my knocks but work at putting my own ideas to work for me. I KNOW that's just not how it works anymore for most but it is for me. ✌ man and have FUN, however you may go about doing so. ;)
How about better sportsmanship.
Liam, outta the guy who quit or CGB? Guessing the rogue player. :)
I'm so happy to see the meta being anything non-aggro
All the decks that have won recent tourneys are either Mono Red or Mono White aggro unfortunately 😔
this is like the only control deck in the meta dude lmao
Emergent ultimatum into nexus is not necessarily healthy meta
@@DMALMAD neither is all aggro
@@RaimonTarou And it loses immediately to rogues, mono red, or mono white if your hand isn't full of removal.
27:40 nastiest Embercleave ever! :)
I've found having elder gargaroth as a 1 or 2 of is very useful for searching up against aggro decks, especially since the deck doesn't really have any life gain otherwise, which can be a problem if you are within stomp range of lethal. Also vorinclex is very bad in the main deck, searching it up with tibalt doesn't really work since the opponent can just give you alrund's + vorinclex, which gives you a lot of aggression but no card advantage, which might not be a problem if this wasn't a control deck. Because it is a control deck the opponent is usually at 20 life even at turn 7, which means that the 14 damage you can get in with the vorinclex + alrund's isn't lethal and can basically be answered by heartless act, which is not what you want your seven mana sorcery to be. However it's actually amazing post - sideboard in the mirror match, since after boarding out heartless act the deck pretty much has zero answers, given that its removal at that point consists of sagas and planeswalkers, which don't work against vorinclex. I've already won one very funny game where I played turn five vorinclex and simply beat face for the next four turns while my opponent dug for answers they didn't have.
nice idea, I'll give it a try.
I learned the hard way that problem with vorinclex. But I think alrund is also not very good, so I cut 1 from my list, tibalt, vorinclex and seagate is often the choice that I gi e to my opponent now.
some shark typhoon can also be pretty good in most matchups.
Finally got to mythic last night 🙌🏻 surprisingly it was your mono green snow deck that got me there from plat 2 lol long ass grind
Beating the lantern deck to death with it's own lantern... forcing them to sacrifice their own Ugin... them running disenchant... I wonder if I'll ever see a game like this on MTGA again!
At 98% mythic no less!
the ugin guy did a mistake not removing both wolf with ugin otherwise he would still have ugin and probably won
16:40 order does matter; the order you chose is vulnerable to brazen borrowing the tibalt with the draw spell on the stack to deny an activation
Same thing as activating a coating before casting karn so that they cant respond before you get to activate the ability. I guess he didnt get punished.
Omg this timing, I was looking for a good video with this deck yesterday and it seems cgb hears prayers
What do you mean he's a blue control mage of course he hears prayer
Jim Davis also made a cool video for cool stuff inc
Sultai Yorion! Aka Dimir with Green! or Simic with Black! or Golgari with Blue!
0:16 Good part starts
4:55 Dedication
5:18 Lets dive in!
10:28 Game 2
19:33 Game 3
27:56 Game 4
32:07 Game 5
47:07 Game 6
52:43 Best part starts
I’m getting so bored of rogues that I’m finding myself just instant conceding rather than bother with them. I crafted the deck on release day like a kid at Christmas and now it makes me nauseous 🤮
I mean a Rogues deck sounded cool at the time and I was excited too. But combining mill+counter+destroy cards is pretty lame! Not what I thought Rogues do
I'm with you. Unfortunately the 'instant concede' effect is just another factor that appeals to those players that still play rogues every day
@@RobbieB2606 So what you’re saying is that, when I see Rogues, I should open UA-cam on my phone and rope. I’ll try that instead. Thanks for the great advice!
when im not using my kroxa deck i just concede.
people go for rogues and cycle cause its cheap to craft especially for new comers and beginners .... tot totottot
It doesn’t matter what side of politics you’re on, I think we can all agree that “what a loser” comment to the first player who scooped using rogues was well deserved.
Well I think this deck is absolutely disgusting so I have to disagree. I rather play vs rogues that this shit.
I don't mind playing against rogues, but the comment had me rollin.
@@Afwasmiddel2142 🧂
Why, though? The roping/emoting people is one thing, but this opponent simply used the spells they had and then scooped when the game was effectively over.
@@perlundgren7797 The opponent really had no strategy other than to cancel spells. And once he exhausted the majority of his counters on dink spells he scooped because he realized he was terrible at playing decks he netted from the internet
To be honest, one shouldn't be able to cast Tibalt when finding Valki with the ultimatum. The texts says (and explicitly implies) only mono coloured, in the same way they just updated the Cascade rule so you can't cast Tibalt when hitting Valki after cascading a 3 or more CMC card. My two cents.
Totally agree
While I understand your logic, cascade gave you the ability to cast tibalt on turn 3. Emergent gives your opponent the choice to allow you to cast tibalt + a freebie on turn 7 for a fairly restrictive cost. Shit ain't the same imo
Explicitly implies? Lulz
@@saturninewyrd But turn 3 or not, in Cascade the rules says you can cast cards with lesser CMC when cascading. Valki is 2 CMC and Valki and Tibalt are the same card, so you should be able to do so. However they changed it, precisely 'cause it was not logical since each side of the card has its own different CMC, 2 and 7 respectively (and different colour too, mind you), they had to fix it so the ruling fits what the mechanic is actually saying and be more consistent, logical and intuitive. In the same way, Ultimatum says mono-coloured cards. You should only be able to cast the mono-coloured part, that's what the mechanic is actually saying. It being "fair or unfair, broken or not" is irrelevant here, but consistency and intuitive, logical results based on the ruling.
Edit: If Tibalt would be only red, or only black, then it would be fine, but is multi-coloured, hence it makes no sense with Ultimatum.
Absolutely! Totally agree but this dude thinks he's all that. I had to unsubscribe cuz he sounds like a jackass most of the time!
OK - so as always CGB, I love your videos. Please keep 'em coming.
I myself had been having a lot of trouble on ladder with the current meta, including, among others, this deck as well.
A few days ago I managed to come up with a Mono Blue deck which can deal with his deck and has relatively good matchups vs almost any other deck, weaker against heavy aggro decks. I don't know the win rate, but on Sunday I was in diamond 4, and now I got to mythic so was pretty good; I would say at least 60%. I am even tempted to call this deck "the Answer" as CGB likes to term the decks that can defeat anything, generally.
So here goes:
4 X Ascendant spirit - really chip and great mana dump whenever you can. If it lives after it comes down, also really good against mono red and white (green can get too big for it, but sometimes not);
3 X Bind the monster - one mana "removal"; gets through those pesky indestructible creatures and really helps stabalize the deck against aggro;
2X lofty Denial;
2X negate;
4 Brazen Borrower;
1X Cosima, God of the Voyage - not a must, but a good body to block and helps draw cards, and/or the omenkeel can really be clutch to crew it with the ascendant spirit and get more lands;
1X midnight clock - slight ramp and/or card draw and/or anti rogues;
2X mystical dispute;
4X saw it coming;
2X whirlwind denial - amazing card for the meta i think, can stop planeswalker abilities, faceless havens turning into creatures, sagas, and of course counter spells (the most fun is countering an adventure spell along with the edgewall innkeeper draw).
2X rewind - I think this is important as there are times when you have to be able to use more mana than you have to counter two spells or bring out the borrower after a counter to put pressure;
3X voracious Greatshark;
3X shark typhoon;
2X sublime epiphany;
2X Sea gate restoration;
19X snow covered lands;
4X Faceless havens;
Hope this helps somebody, and that no one gets upset at the long message.
Last time I was this early, Sultai was just Simic Ramp with some extra thicc removal
Lmao Uro go brrrrrrrrrrr
@@nickniehaus1763 No!!! You can't print a one-card value engine so strong it would be banned in almost every format in less than a year
Went against this deck yesterday evening with me playing a budget simic kicker deck (the same I crafted for €6 on paper lol) and won. It was a cool match: opponent casted the ultimatum 3 times :D
nice, what did you do for the ultimatums counter them? or just kill whatever he puts down ?
@@isaz2425 i run 0 counters on that deck:opponent always picked vorinclex, alrund's epiphany, tibalt or the exile all 3cmc or less: with 3/4 dragon's nests on board you get a bunch of 2/2 flyers each time you kick a spell so I just needed to not give him extra turns
Aggro is no fun to play, control no fun to play against. When will midrange be meta again? State farm remembers.
*tips fedora* “Sk’noodle”
This deck works really well I have been running it for a few weeks now. The main issue is you get too many bombs in your hand or run out of fetch targets.
Sultai all the way, thank you cbg for the amazing content! Keep it up
I have been playing the version you showed on stream with Toski. Love swinging in with Toski and 2 birds to draw 3. Feel like Im winning the game then, who cares about Kiora BTSG and Tibalt.
Burning rune demon is neat in this too, gives you another ultimatum if the let it all through
start of the intro cut off slightly for the second time since yesterday, I feel robbed :(
Your commentary during the Rogue match was epic. I was laughing the whole time.lol “Loser” lmao!
I think what would frustrate me a lot more when playing this deck than playing against aggro is playing the mirror match. Unless I'm really land screwed, matching up removals against mono-red's threats and stuff is like a relaxing game of solitaire, and when I do stabilize it feels really nice. That's something about Magic that I'll always appreciate that will never go away, no matter what the meta is. On the other hand, the mirror match is just "hi yes i drew my ultimatum first please concede now". Enough of those, and I'll start thinking about how to make my own anti-Ultimatum deck.
Guys how do you find where deck lists are posted that won 6 games in a row on MTG arena?
Not gonna lie...kinda rooting for the Cosmos Elixer deck. I really love that card.
I *was* rooting for them up until they played the Ugin. But I guess if you're trying to make janky colorless cards work in a competitive capacity, that's where you stick it.
Crafted this deck and it’s pretty much 50/50. And he’s right, it’s very tough against mono white. If you don’t draw your sweepers you get run over pretty quickly. What I found out is the best way to counter these small aggro decks is to ultimatum into Shadows’ Verdict, Extinctjon Event, and Eliminate or Heartless Act. It’s the only way to guarantee you get out of that mess.
esika's chariot is pretty good against aggro. they need several cards to remove it completely with the tokens, and you can bounce it with yorion.
Favorite moment: "Turd's Lantern..."
Out of the Triple-Devotion Eldraine Nobles, who do people think is the best? (Gadwick (U), Yorvo (G), Linda (W), Torbran (R) or Ayara (B))
Yorvo or Gadwick easy
-casually forgets about mono-Red-
Gadwick is definitely my favorite. He used to be awesome in Dimir Control.
Linden if in mono white or white heavy deck
I dont normally like most meta decks however, i do love this one. Unfortunately my wildcards are almost non existent. My heart broke durring the F2k tournament when mono white destroyed everything. (Already hated facing mono white)
I'm still trying to draw cards after I cast Emergent Ultimatum, they all scoop lol, thanks CGB, this deck is really awesome!!!
Had a fun with this one a bit.. first few games were great than the almighty shuffler algorithms kicked in they had all the perfect curves and drawes and i kept getting shit hands and no ultimatums ...still love how the game just doesnt let u win or even have a chance
The way he crushed minored that first game made me so happy!
Is world tree bad even though it would mana fix?
This is when i wish i spent on Arena! Would love playing this!
I'm wondering why Burning Rune demon isn't in the deck it allows to get another ultimatum or something relevant... no ?
What would you take out
@@getlooky736 I personally took out one elspeth's nightmare and added burning rune demon... I also took out two shadow's verdict and put 2 negate spells to help fight against either ramp decks or decks with a counters waiting. I have been having a lot of success with this deck plus the changes!!!
Comment for the algorithm. Just what this fan wanted, a yoooooorion deck!
Interesting that the top deck right now doesn’t have any cards from Eldraine (except Fabled Passage, but that’s so ubiquitous I almost forgot) despite the set being so pushed and overrepresented in Standard for such a long time. A Valki rules change to prevent casting the Tibalt off of ultimatum might edge it out though. Are you sure that his deck isn’t supposed to have a Henge or an Embercleave in it?
I'm sure the deck would've run Oko and Once Upon a Time if it could.
I think both of those cards are very good in creature heavy decks, but this deck has 4 total creature spells in it - 5 if you count kbtsg. That means the cards are blanks outside of casting them off of ultimatum. Saying that, getting to embercleave a vorinclex does sound like a lot of fun
I have a deck I want you to try, where do I go to send it in? Found a REALLY fun mardu snow yoriom kroxa build. Kardurs saga curves very well with omen of sun and ecd
Been playing this for days now, such a fun deck!
If both players have Tergrid and one sacrifices a fabled passage does it bounce if always used immediatly?
It should indeed
@@marc-andrecote2948 playing a tergrid deck for hours but i dont find another one to bounce fabled passages ;(
so emergent can cast the planeswalker side but not cascading?
I think the point of ultimatum's monocolor restriction is mostly to prevent it from casting an other ultimatum, so this combo isn't much more broken than expected during the card design.
while cascade would let you play a card much more expensive, and therefore much more broken than planned, very early in the game.
I think that's why they had to change the rule for cascade and not for ultimatum.
CGB I think you forgot that binding the old gods is a removal spell in that mono red game with torbrand ♥️♥️♥️
This was a really cool deck and fun to watch.
I'm waiting on my reappearance on this channel
41:01 why it does not work?
Yoooooooooo Add solve the equation to this deck from Strixhaven and it makes it insane, basically gives you 4 more chances to pull emergent. I got screwed in a game where i had 20 lands out and still didnt pull an emergent, so i looked into the new packs and found a spell fetch that works insanely well with this.
Is it worth to craft this deck or is it going to get a counter deck soon?
Yorion? CGB? What a twist!
has anyone tried putting a single red land in the deck so they can cast tibalt when he gets stuck in hand?
Most builds have one or two copies of the red-green-blue triome
Thanks for the video!
Why did the elspeths nightmare immediately go to taking the opponents card?
This is because of Vorinclex which doubles all counters. For sagas it means you immediately get two counters triggering both the 1st and 2nd chapter. Opposite is true for your opponent where sagas do nothing as all counters are halved rounded down :)
was because of vorinclex adding the second counter when it came into play. Vorinclex doubles counters if you play a permanent that gets counters. Halves those that opponents play. That's why their sagas never get any counters on them if you have vorinclex out on your side.
So what you're saying is I need to play more Disdainful Strokes and Mystical Disputes to deal with this deck
Disdainful stroke is a dead card in so many matchups. Mystical dispute, though...
@@danieledman5826 I like to carry at least 1 Stroke, and will be upping my Dispute count. I’m on a Yorion pile which is why I was thinking of upping the Disdainful count.
Disdainful stroke and weathered runestone. I already maindeck 4 negates and 4 see it coming and 4 mystical disputes but the ultimatum decks still destroy me. Miscast doesn’t help as much because the have so much mana they can cover the cost and miscast doesn’t hit planeswalkers or Kiora.
Seems like a good time for counter magic?
Goddamn. This deck is everywhere right now. Including in my own hands. Should probably add a few counterspell and remove a few spot removals
1:08 you know that you have to do a mono red Ultimatum Deck now? :D
Some satisfying games brotha
When the meta shifts but ppl still play rogues, mono red and mono white
The meta never shifted
they made aggro too strong, we need more hexproof cheap ramping creature, for example stuff like esika should have come with hexproof etc...
@@Amphok They made aggro too strong because control is too strong. They just keep making both ends stronger, meanwhile midrange decks are left in between wondering how to build vs both extremes. It's so annoying to try and pilot anything that doesn't try to kill by turn 3 or can't play a wincon by turn 5/6. Once you start optimizing your fun brewed deck you always end up being either more aggro or way more control at which point you probably turn it into a Yorion pile.
And the worse one, yorion players, why these people should die in rl?
@@matthoward6130 i don't want to fill my deck with boring removal just to stop aggro from letting me ramp to my lovely genesis ultimatum, the problem is just the stupid embercleave
Getting back into MTG with my favorite colors as #1 ok ok I’m coming back
Those were some epic fights!
HEy CGB, what do you think of playing the llanowar visionary instead of cultivate? Yorion loves the visionary and even if he gets killed it is a 2 for 1.
one of the problems with that is that this deck wants to cast ultimatum as early as possible, and for that you need color fixing.
cultivation lets you fetch the colors that you need, while the elf doesn't.
@@isaz2425 I can see that. I haven't had any issues with mana fixing with all the triomes and card draw. But I am running 4 mazemind tomes and less interaction than CGB
@@lifeisawesome1391 ok, maybe this deserves a try then. especially since it gives a blocker against aggro (although bonecrusher removes it very easily, and white can quickly become too big to trade )
As someone who just downloaded the game about 6 hours ago, I have no idea what I'm watching. I have the white deck that heals a lot. But UA-cam recommends, right?
Where is he from
Double dose of CGB? Push back the meetings!
That red game was just something else.
Ok the 2nd red game just after was even better.
the way you just demolished the red deck at 25 minutes may have been one of your all time best magic moments. you should publish it seperately as a warning to monored players
I've been playing against so many of these the last couple of days that I've just maindecked a couple of Necromentia just to deal with it.
After the first game, there was an 100% winrate
After the first game you saw.......
@Todd Packer yeah I know. Don't fault him. I do appreciate when he posts an epic loss though and that he's honest
@Todd Packer he used to post the whole thing on his other channel, but apparently not enough people watched them :(
31:15
my god these wins are crazy what vid :O)
And it's about time the best ultamatum gets reconition
hi, coolstuffinc.com does not exist or can't be reached?
Thanks CGB... Now as usual everyone will copy this deck and my "Rakdos sacrifice" will get dunked on even more... 😭
Does this thing seriously have 80 cards like the list on the link
Companions are now the Retro-Foretell Mechanism.
Please create a deck around Toski the squirrel!
Paused at 0:56 look how Evil and Happy he looks xD
Those land cards are beautiful, how do i get them?
The basics were a sale when Theros was new. May be back as a daily deal eventually. The pathways are just an alt art that can be purchased.
@@joefat420 hope those basics come back soon.
Why did CGB take 3 damage for killing terror of the peaks at 12:54? I must be missing something because why would he take 3 damage from a heartless act.
target terror
Just played against a version of this deck but it had no chance against my abzan- yorion- blinky shenanigans. Got lucky but they resolved 3 seegates, an epithany and a kiora and I had no trouble dealing with them.
Also, does anyone else think that alrunds epithany is one of the most annoying cards in this set?
CGB's version doesn't run counterpells. But I think Sultai Yorion with counterspells tends to beat Abzan Yorions most of the time.
@@lifeisawesome1391 I guess the disruption does not count but I agree, sultai Yorion should be better but I think it is kinda close. Too many counters can really hurt you in bo1, though.
Oh boy, a Soul Tomato deck!!
The order does matter, if you cast tibalt first they can bounce before you activate
what happened to the first 2 seconds of the intro?
It was fine for me. Do you mean the slide cut?
Same thing yesterday, so I guess it's intentional. Makes no sense musically speaking, though.
@@RuneDrageon The first few notes of the intro song is missing.
CGB "get your ass to mythic"
Me that try so hard and fail - "Am I a joke to you ?"
I lost on Diamond 1.5 SIX freaking times this season before breaking through. I think that's actually a sign of a good meta.
Anyone else sings the "CovertGoBlue" to the tune at the intro or am I the only one? It has become like a daily ritual for me now
27:47 The ultimate “no u”
Just think what this deck would be if Uro and Growth spiral weren't banned 😈😈
Along with Casualties of War having rotated out... :)
Somebody played this against me while I was trying to do some back for more jank, it really destroyed me haha
Whats the best way to best this deck? Lol probably just way too fast aggro
either very fast aggro , or enough counterspells.
It only have 4 ultimatums, so if you counter them, it gets very difficult for this deck.
Good thing about the deck is that you can sideboard really well against it. It struggles a lot vs any combination of Goldspan and counters. Even if you run creatures, Duress helps a lot because if you just take their payoff, the deck struggles to do anything. Might be powerful but the gameplan is too linear and easy to attack in competitive formats in my opinion.
I play it and it's usually fine, after side I have more counterspells to deal with the oponent's ones, and extinction event, yorion and shark typhoon to deal with the dragon.
When gold league spams ultimatums, you can be sure that CGB uploaded a hype video that all the fanboys crafted. Thanks! Time for some counter magic