One of the biggest what if that I am still thinking is what if Patton and McArthur were given the chance to conquer Japan? Oh boy, these 2 egoistic generals will surely drive their men crazy in order to conquer Tokyo first hahaha
McArthur was an incompetent narcissist who failed to prepare the Philippines for Japanese invasion, actively countermanded effective ANZAC troops In defense of Australia and Port Moresby, siphoned of US troops unskilled in jungle fighting resulting in numerous massacres, and constantly robbed men and materiel from Nimitz's successful island hopping campaign which McArthur repeatedly tried to derail so he (McArthur) could be the hero. He did eventually have some good strategies, but his tactical and logistical incompetence meant all the details had to be analyzed, planned, and executed by senior subordinates who McArthur reassigned, demoted, or relieved when they looked to competent and challenged McArthur's brutality crafted facade of competence. Following McArthur's overall strategic plan would have resulted in disaster. He argued the US focus on Europe, and leave McArthur in supreme command in the Pacific, with Admiral Nimitz and the US Navy forces under his command. Though the Pacific OCEAN accounted for 90% of the battle zone, McArthur wanted to stage a land campaign starting in Papua/New Guinea and slogging inch by inch through the swamps, jungles, rain forests, and mountains in casualty intense firefights, where he was infinitely at disadvantages. He had neither the troops, training, field commanders (since he dismissed so many competent ones), air transport assets, ships, transports, landing craft, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, DDEs, carriers with aircraft, land based modern fighters and bombers, pilots, ordnance, or logistics for the Pacific Campaign. His plans would have added two or more years to the war, cost millions more killed, wounded, and missing, not liberate the Philippines, cede Okinawa, Guam, the Marianas, Wake Island, the Marshal Islands, Rabaul, Truk, New Britain, Papau/New Guinea, the Coral Sea, Indonesia, the South China Sea, Malaysia, and Singapore to the Japanese, and left Japan undefeated and in control of access to Australia, New Zealand, and the eastern Indian Ocean. These are the POSITIVE aspects of McArthur's leadership. Corridor, Bataan and Manila belie the real costs of his tactical and strategic incompetence. As do the Philippines, and every battlefield he entered. Except for Formosa, but only because he never made it that close to Japan. There are many reasons why there is so little in US Pacific WWII history tales about McArthur. See above.
The Island Hopping strategy was really quite evident if the US was not to be bogged down by the unnecessary capturing every small island that had a Japanese presence on it. The islands of interest were those favoured by pre WW2 Pan American flying boat Clipper services as refuelling and rest facilities on the long journey from Hawaii to China. For America and for those who enjoyed the numerous benefits of American ambitions and generosity this was at a time of forward thinking, optimistic times when America became certain of its place in the World. Sadly those times, perhaps less complicated times, can only be seen now in time's rear view mirror. An incident during the Korean War that caused some alarm no doubt was when Generalisimo MacAuther requested from President Trueman to use an Atomic bomb against North Korea. The President wisely refused the General's odious request and so saved us from the possible destruction of Mother Earth.
I SMH at this island hopping strategy. The Aleutian's to Kamchatka to Japan was obviously a better choice. But that route would have limited Navy importance, and power. So Nimitz chose island hopping. Japan knew this and prematurely attacked and temporarily occupied Aleutian islands. Yes the weather would have been difficult. But not as difficult as Tarawa, Guadalcanal, Okinawa etc
What kind of sop was it that gave the Bougainville campaign to ego-maniac army General MacArthur, stationed 1000 miles away? It belonged to gutsy navy man Admiral Halsey, and a bunch of just-as-gutsy marines. They won their objective -- just like all the other historic Solomon Island actions.
Except your hero Halsey should have been canned for running off glory hunting, instead of protecting the ships involved in the landing in the Philippines. He caused a LOT of sailors to lose their lives because of his mistake. And, Halsey was just as much, or even more, of a ego-maniac than MacArthur.
I can't help but wonder how things would have worked out if the U.S. only knocked out the supply lines, aircraft and ships for most of the islands, stationing ships off the coasts, leaving the enemy troops basically ineffective until after Tokyo/Japan.
Curtis LeMay once said that mining the inner Japanese channels would have collapsed their economy by impeding internal commerce, and therefore shortening the war significantly.
MacArthur was not much of an island-hopper. He did it now and again, but Halsey did it better. MacArthur was great at "garrison-hopping." Landing his forces just beyond Japanese military concentrations and then squeezing the life out of them. He took most of gigantic New Guinea that way.
excellent introducing ....Accurate Reconnaissance Knowledges considered an essential foundation for successful assault launching which were US Military Efforts Used Photographic Knowledges against Japanese Bases
So, what will you do if a volcano erupts nearby? That's right - duck and cover! These old time narrators must've all been made on the same factory line :D Good video though.
The two pronged approach to island hopping was a nothing but a stupid waste of blood and treasure. Wasting all of those lives to give McArthur a sop was one of the biggest mistakes of the war on the part of the Americans.
Hey Mitchell, you changed your screen name so you could come back, leave a second comment, and bash MacArthur again. At least spell the man's name correctly. Oh and maybe, just maybe, you should change your writing style a little for your second comment. You are totally obvious.
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@@donf3877 NO idea who Mitchell is...but if you look closely Im not bashing MacArthur, I'm bashing whoever authorized the second offensive...meaning either the Navy path or the Army path could have been the way forward.
@@arthurjacobs4974 Sorry, this is a bit incoherent. What war are we in now? Are you referring to Ukraine, who was invaded by Trump's overlord, Putin? Of course Trump would have done nothing. It's clear by now that Putin has some "Kompromat" on Trump which is why he acted completely against US interests every time he dealt with Putin.
The Japanese would disagree. The Japanese navy in particular considered the Philippines vital to naval operations since it was their only secure route remaining to the Dutch East Indies. Compared to Nimitz's central pacific campaign, the SWPA (southwest pacific army) was also making gains much more rapidly in 1944 at much lower costs in casualties.
The Wester Pacific was the bailiwick of Admiral Chester Nimitz executor of the American Plan Orange, Japan was Orange, The British were Blue and other countries were referenced using other color codes. According to author, Edward S. Miller in his book: War Plan Orange: The U.S. Strategy to defeat Japan - 1897-1945, U.S. war planners identified the countries they would likely need to engage with militarily-fight a war against as Japanese interests were taking over many of the small island nations to capture them for not only their strategic value, but what resources they could provide. This ambition was cynically described by the Japanese as their South East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. Apparently, well before their attack on Pearl Harbour the Japanese were scurrying around the Pacific and as far south as Aotearoa-New Zealand' offering help to the indigini to overthrow their English colonisers and self govern with assistance of course from Japan. Events that came into existence a short time latter nessesitated a revisited approach that resulted in the violent and decisive end of the Pacific War.
Japan swiftly overtook many Paciifc islands as it accumulated a vast empire in the 1940s. But in those days, there were precious few "island nations." Most were colonies or territories -- property of the Western Powers. Since then, the Century of American Peace after WW2 has brought "sovereign nation" status to many of those Japanese-held islands. Many today have reached the status of "island nations."
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the main army of Japan was in China... USA only faced a fraction of the Japanese forces... and still had to do it one island at a time... Japan meanwhile liberated India and rest of Asia
@@mitchellhawkes22 Asia is free of western colonialism the UK and USA got booted out by Japanese force... USA lost a war dept and was forced to rebuild Japan.. that is how USA loses a race war.. enjoy your TV made in Japan Treaty of San Francisco is law.. USA paid reparations..
One of the biggest what if that I am still thinking is what if Patton and McArthur were given the chance to conquer Japan? Oh boy, these 2 egoistic generals will surely drive their men crazy in order to conquer Tokyo first hahaha
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MacArthur was an awesome war strategist and his generals and admirals great battle tacticians.
McArthur was an incompetent narcissist who failed to prepare the Philippines for Japanese invasion, actively countermanded effective ANZAC troops In defense of Australia and Port Moresby, siphoned of US troops unskilled in jungle fighting resulting in numerous massacres, and constantly robbed men and materiel from Nimitz's successful island hopping campaign which McArthur repeatedly tried to derail so he (McArthur) could be the hero.
He did eventually have some good strategies, but his tactical and logistical incompetence meant all the details had to be analyzed, planned, and executed by senior subordinates who McArthur reassigned, demoted, or relieved when they looked to competent and challenged McArthur's brutality crafted facade of competence.
Following McArthur's overall strategic plan would have resulted in disaster. He argued the US focus on Europe, and leave McArthur in supreme command in the Pacific, with Admiral Nimitz and the US Navy forces under his command.
Though the Pacific OCEAN accounted for 90% of the battle zone, McArthur wanted to stage a land campaign starting in Papua/New Guinea and slogging inch by inch through the swamps, jungles, rain forests, and mountains in casualty intense firefights, where he was infinitely at disadvantages.
He had neither the troops, training, field commanders (since he dismissed so many competent ones), air transport assets, ships, transports, landing craft, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, DDEs, carriers with aircraft, land based modern fighters and bombers, pilots, ordnance, or logistics for the Pacific Campaign.
His plans would have added two or more years to the war, cost millions more killed, wounded, and missing, not liberate the Philippines, cede Okinawa, Guam, the Marianas, Wake Island, the Marshal Islands, Rabaul, Truk, New Britain, Papau/New Guinea, the Coral Sea, Indonesia, the South China Sea, Malaysia, and Singapore to the Japanese, and left Japan undefeated and in control of access to Australia, New Zealand, and the eastern Indian Ocean.
These are the POSITIVE aspects of McArthur's leadership. Corridor, Bataan and Manila belie the real costs of his tactical and strategic incompetence. As do the Philippines, and every battlefield he entered. Except for Formosa, but only because he never made it that close to Japan.
There are many reasons why there is so little in US Pacific WWII history tales about McArthur.
See above.
we still Island hop at Parris Island
The island hopping concept was actually the idea of Admiral Nimitz not macarthur.
Since it worked, MacArthur gladly took the credit.
@@djquinn11 Ah yes, the American Caesar was very good at taking credit. I don't know if he was a democrat because they have become very good at it.
The Island Hopping strategy was really quite evident if the US was not to be bogged down by the unnecessary capturing every small island that had a Japanese presence on it. The islands of interest were those favoured by pre WW2 Pan American flying boat Clipper services as refuelling and rest facilities on the long journey from Hawaii to China. For America and for those who enjoyed the numerous benefits of American ambitions and generosity this was at a time of forward thinking, optimistic times when America became certain of its place in the World. Sadly those times, perhaps less complicated times, can only be seen now in time's rear view mirror.
An incident during the Korean War that caused some alarm no doubt was when Generalisimo MacAuther requested from President Trueman to use an Atomic bomb against North Korea. The President wisely refused the General's odious request and so saved us from the possible destruction of Mother Earth.
You are correct. And Nimitz's boss, badass Admiral Ernest King, was the grand deacon of the Island-Hopping concept.
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You know they have to be intelligent intelligence officers because he was smoking a pipe. A sure sign of genius.
Something tells me that we'll be revisiting this strategy in the next decade or so.
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What tells you that?
I SMH at this island hopping strategy. The Aleutian's to Kamchatka to Japan was obviously a better choice. But that route would have limited Navy importance, and power. So Nimitz chose island hopping. Japan knew this and prematurely attacked and temporarily occupied Aleutian islands.
Yes the weather would have been difficult. But not as difficult as Tarawa, Guadalcanal, Okinawa etc
What kind of sop was it that gave the Bougainville campaign to ego-maniac army General MacArthur, stationed 1000 miles away?
It belonged to gutsy navy man Admiral Halsey, and a bunch of just-as-gutsy marines. They won their objective -- just like all the other historic Solomon Island actions.
Except your hero Halsey should have been canned for running off glory hunting, instead of protecting the ships involved in the landing in the Philippines. He caused a LOT of sailors to lose their lives because of his mistake. And, Halsey was just as much, or even more, of a ego-maniac than MacArthur.
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Anybody not fascinated by the early American efforts at war against the Japanese in the lower Solomon Islands, it's not interested in studying war
Brave men.
I can't help but wonder how things would have worked out if the U.S. only knocked out the supply lines, aircraft and ships for most of the islands, stationing ships off the coasts, leaving the enemy troops basically ineffective until after Tokyo/Japan.
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Curtis LeMay once said that mining the inner Japanese channels would have collapsed their economy by impeding internal commerce, and therefore shortening the war significantly.
MacArthur never claimed he invented the island hopping strategy. He said it wa a strategy as old a war. But, he was superbly good at it.
MacArthur was not much of an island-hopper. He did it now and again, but Halsey did it better.
MacArthur was great at "garrison-hopping." Landing his forces just beyond Japanese military concentrations and then squeezing the life out of them. He took most of gigantic New Guinea that way.
@@mitchellhawkes22 Admiral Nimitz was the other Pacific Commander. Halsey was a Fleet Commander carry out orders.
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@@mitchellhawkes22wasn't MacArthur a disaster in Korea? The more I hear about this guy the more I think he was totally incompetent
Sort of the naval version of encirclement.
excellent introducing ....Accurate Reconnaissance Knowledges considered an essential foundation for successful assault launching which were US Military Efforts Used Photographic Knowledges against Japanese Bases
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So, what will you do if a volcano erupts nearby? That's right - duck and cover!
These old time narrators must've all been made on the same factory line :D
Good video though.
the troops called the strategy hit "em where they aint
That's a baseball strategy as well. Totally American in conception.
@@mitchellhawkes22 interesting
Once the islands had been blockaded there was no value and many lives were unnecessarily lost is fighting to talk them, in my opinion
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The two pronged approach to island hopping was a nothing but a stupid waste of blood and treasure. Wasting all of those lives to give McArthur a sop was one of the biggest mistakes of the war on the part of the Americans.
Hey Mitchell, you changed your screen name so you could come back, leave a second comment, and bash MacArthur again. At least spell the man's name correctly. Oh and maybe, just maybe, you should change your writing style a little for your second comment. You are totally obvious.
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@@donf3877 NO idea who Mitchell is...but if you look closely Im not bashing MacArthur, I'm bashing whoever authorized the second offensive...meaning either the Navy path or the Army path could have been the way forward.
@@arthurjacobs4974 Sorry, this is a bit incoherent. What war are we in now? Are you referring to Ukraine, who was invaded by Trump's overlord, Putin? Of course Trump would have done nothing. It's clear by now that Putin has some "Kompromat" on Trump which is why he acted completely against US interests every time he dealt with Putin.
The Japanese would disagree. The Japanese navy in particular considered the Philippines vital to naval operations since it was their only secure route remaining to the Dutch East Indies. Compared to Nimitz's central pacific campaign, the SWPA (southwest pacific army) was also making gains much more rapidly in 1944 at much lower costs in casualties.
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Anyone recommend similar pacific documentary’s?
I know of fewer (docs) about the pacific theatre, but “Why we fight: Battle of China” reminded me of this
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War stories is great unlike the History channel where you won't find any true history.
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The Wester Pacific was the bailiwick of Admiral Chester Nimitz executor of the American Plan Orange, Japan was Orange, The British were Blue and other countries were referenced using other color codes. According to author, Edward S. Miller in his book: War Plan Orange: The U.S. Strategy to defeat Japan - 1897-1945, U.S. war planners identified the countries they would likely need to engage with militarily-fight a war against as Japanese interests were taking over many of the small island nations to capture them for not only their strategic value, but what resources they could provide. This ambition was cynically described by the Japanese as their South East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. Apparently, well before their attack on Pearl Harbour the Japanese were scurrying around the Pacific and as far south as Aotearoa-New Zealand' offering help to the indigini to overthrow their English colonisers and self govern with assistance of course from Japan. Events that came into existence a short time latter nessesitated a revisited approach that resulted in the violent and decisive end of the Pacific War.
Japan swiftly overtook many Paciifc islands as it accumulated a vast empire in the 1940s. But in those days, there were precious few "island nations." Most were colonies or territories -- property of the Western Powers. Since then, the Century of American Peace after WW2 has brought "sovereign nation" status to many of those Japanese-held islands. Many today have reached the status of "island nations."
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WHERE'S CURTIS LE MAY TODAY
GO TELL OUR MILITARY MEN & WOMEN ,, AND SEND A MESSAGE TO EACH ENEMY ' S HOME , HOUSE AND MEETING PLACE ,,,CCP AND WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT ALL TIMES
the main army of Japan was in China...
USA only faced a fraction of the Japanese forces...
and still had to do it one island at a time...
Japan meanwhile liberated India and rest of Asia
They huh?
Fill us in on how Japan liberated anyone.
"Liberated"??? It THAT what you call murdering over 80,000,000, that's 80 MILLION, people. Sick sick sick man
@@mitchellhawkes22 Asia is free of western colonialism
the UK and USA got booted out by Japanese force...
USA lost a war dept
and was forced to rebuild Japan..
that is how USA loses a race war..
enjoy your TV
made in Japan
Treaty of San Francisco is law..
USA paid reparations..
SOLOMONS AGAIN