Pilatus PC-12 - Cost to Own

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @braincraven
    @braincraven 2 роки тому +156

    We fly our own damn planes. Your best line yet in all your videos. Great script, narration, and script. You are the man!

  • @ootachi
    @ootachi 2 роки тому +148

    This is probably the most ambitious video you've done to date. Love the comparisons to other planes!

  • @alexfortin7209
    @alexfortin7209 2 роки тому +51

    Excellent video, I would 2 important facts about the PC-12:
    1) extremely low incident rate - extremely safe
    2) trailing-arm landing gear - this allows to land on unprepared fields
    Simply looking at real world statistics from users, this plane is a masterpiece of aeronautical engineering.

  • @liolioliplip
    @liolioliplip Рік тому +6

    Do the PC-24! Need to understand the cost of my “if I win the lottery” plans.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Рік тому +6

    2:09 - ROFL...I will never be able to unsee it now. lol

  • @NoDakExpress
    @NoDakExpress 2 роки тому +71

    But avast! She floats! 😆
    Edit - wasn’t expecting an F-35 comment - Too bad that thing doesn’t float given how many end up in the water!

    • @aerojunkee596
      @aerojunkee596 2 роки тому

      I assume you’re not a fan of the F35

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому +17

      That would need really really big floats.

    • @chrisboyington3176
      @chrisboyington3176 2 роки тому +1

      Does it need to float if it has its own ship to land on though?

    • @royalbirb275
      @royalbirb275 2 роки тому +7

      @@chrisboyington3176 yes, since they keep missing the deck lmao

    • @PetesGuide
      @PetesGuide 2 роки тому +2

      @@aerojunkee596 Some of us are only a fan of the B model.

  • @broadly_apparent947
    @broadly_apparent947 2 роки тому +27

    Finally!!!!
    One suggestion for videos - would be interesting to see a financing chart of some kind. Interest payments, depreciation, etc. just a thought as many times that plays into the decision making process of buying something like this and it’d be cool to see how you pick the important parts away.
    Awesome video as always!!!!

    • @DaneJasper
      @DaneJasper 2 роки тому +1

      Bingo. Including the cost of money is an important part of operating cost.

  • @lnm4444
    @lnm4444 2 роки тому +18

    Thank you very much, this is my favorite plane and complete walk around. This was your best work so far.
    On to the DC-3 review.

  • @neoleo593
    @neoleo593 2 роки тому +4

    These buzz my workplace pretty often, sounds good

  • @mynamedoesntmatter9013
    @mynamedoesntmatter9013 2 роки тому +5

    What a lot of people don’t keep in mind is the time spent on the ground due to mx or going from cold and black to mission ready.
    Both of which this plane excels at. Everything is easy to fix and the plane can have that prop spinning in 5 minutes if you hustle.
    For those who like their warranties tho, have fun lol their warranty center will keep your plane down for much longer than you’d care for. Get yourself an A&P and if they can source parts, you’re practically always mission ready.

  • @auburnalum9019
    @auburnalum9019 2 роки тому +9

    You just keep getting better and better. Really the best content on UA-cam! 🤓

  • @matt_b...
    @matt_b... 2 роки тому +23

    KHHR->KSQL->KHHR almost every day on a PC-12 for a few months. As a passenger I preferred the King Air, and it wasn't because of the potty seat.

    • @MB-cv5pz
      @MB-cv5pz 2 роки тому +3

      Damn! What kind of job gives you this perk of commuting on PC-12s?

    • @matt_b...
      @matt_b... 2 роки тому +5

      @@MB-cv5pz it was cheaper than SWA and a lot more flexible, especially over the course of a few months (SurfAir, I'm not affiliated). The king air was a full time company charter between two socal company offices. It was cheaper to fly us vs drive and spend the night.

    • @PetesGuide
      @PetesGuide 2 роки тому +2

      @@matt_b... KSQL is south of me, by two cities (same county!), but not SoCal by any definition!
      Why is the King Air better?
      Did my discovery flight there and an airshow ride in an R44, and is probably where I’ll do my flight training.

    • @matt_b...
      @matt_b... 2 роки тому

      @@PetesGuide Right. KHHR->KSQL-KHHR was one experience. The king air was another (SoCal only, much shorter trip KSBA-KSNA).
      Honestly the King Air felt like it was configured for more room and comfort. Nothing against SurfAir, but their configuration on the Pilatus was kind of crampt. If the PC12 were configured different, it surely would've been a toss up.

  • @Trevor-gu8bb
    @Trevor-gu8bb 2 роки тому +4

    With the wild fluctuations in gas prices this year it might be worth noting the fuel prices and/or GPH you're using in these calculations so that the videos will stay relevant in the future.

  • @DGG.85
    @DGG.85 2 роки тому +6

    What about the AN2, probably can carry more just slower

  • @Ash007YT
    @Ash007YT 2 роки тому +2

    ''But Avast she floats'' Nearly spit out my tea....

  • @advancetheworld
    @advancetheworld 2 роки тому

    The humor gets better every video, loved it!

  • @skyhager5953
    @skyhager5953 2 роки тому +1

    My company operates a small fleet of PC-12s. We also have a single PC-24, among other charter aircraft.

  • @robertchambers5821
    @robertchambers5821 7 місяців тому

    Great video, giving some relative operation costs. If I'm not mistaken the new PC-12 with auto throttle is north of 8M.

  • @Talasas
    @Talasas 2 роки тому +2

    I'd love to see one on the PC6, another absolute gem.

    • @desert_jin6281
      @desert_jin6281 2 роки тому +1

      Seconded.
      Or a PC-7. Talk about a racecar for the weekend.

  • @kobiemelverton2231
    @kobiemelverton2231 Рік тому

    ive been told pilatus did a lot of consulting with the royal flying doctor service in australia when designing the pc-12 and 24

  • @ditirojimmysegang3009
    @ditirojimmysegang3009 2 роки тому +3

    Having flown both the C208B and the PC12 NG, i'd take PC12 all the time 😉🙃🛩✈

  • @jackson4736
    @jackson4736 2 роки тому +2

    Great vid I’ve been waiting for this one for a while. It would be really cool to see the pipistrel panthera next since it has 3 versions and one of them is a hybrid so it would be really cool to see the cost differences.

  • @vatira
    @vatira 2 роки тому +13

    my favorite part about PC-12s is how often they give you a close look by not looking at who is in the pattern and turning base when youre already there!
    Beautiful plane though, i dont mind

  • @Five-Oh-Six
    @Five-Oh-Six 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video! Just thought I’d mention there’s a slight typo of lightning spelled as “lightnint”. Still great work as always!

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому +5

      Spelling mistakes is how you know it's still me makint these 😉

  • @aadvantagegold5220
    @aadvantagegold5220 2 роки тому

    I literally just had to hold for a Medevac one at my local airport, right before you published this.

  • @shiroyukiwang1252
    @shiroyukiwang1252 2 роки тому +2

    According to Wikipedia, Antonov 2 gross at 11993 Lbs and PC12 MTOW is 10450Lbs. Wonder if there's other single civilian prop plane heavier than that. And Excellent video!

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Antonov AN2 sure is a big fella. 12,500 pounds is a common MTOW because its as big as you can go and remain in the 'small' weight class. Helps to keep fees down.

  • @Nobi36
    @Nobi36 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant narrating

  • @JT-er3cy
    @JT-er3cy 2 роки тому

    These videos are literally the highlight of my week!

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos19 2 роки тому +2

    Big shame that PC-6 Turbo Porter not in production anymore... :(( That was a real legend among larger 'bushplanes' landing almost anywhere.

  • @temetitomimorronga4928
    @temetitomimorronga4928 2 роки тому +1

    Finally the day has come

  • @Explorerx98
    @Explorerx98 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing as always

  • @ptrappe
    @ptrappe 2 роки тому +4

    Dream plane

    • @iowafarmboy
      @iowafarmboy 2 роки тому +1

      As long as someone else is paying the bills 😅

  • @bahenbihen
    @bahenbihen 2 роки тому

    Great video as usual! I was never into these things until I saw one land on a grass strip on a seriously inclined hill. Now I slobber like a dog whenever I see one at an airport

  • @aaronw8023
    @aaronw8023 2 роки тому

    I was waiting for this one!! Great video! You should do the Pipistrel Virus next!

  • @Nomad243
    @Nomad243 2 роки тому

    Been enjoying your videos, thanks for putting both metric and imperial units ;)

  • @FirstLast_Nba
    @FirstLast_Nba Рік тому

    Short and sharp wins again.

  • @paulgemperlein626
    @paulgemperlein626 2 роки тому

    Yes, yes, yes. Such a nice airplane and you've done it justice.

  • @It_Is_I_I
    @It_Is_I_I Рік тому

    You know what id like to see? The pc-21, id love to see that

  • @fughkour1793
    @fughkour1793 2 роки тому

    fantastic video! It would be cool to see you do a video on the cost to own the commander 690 and 695 series

  • @JLRkosmic
    @JLRkosmic 2 роки тому

    This is awesome! Would love to see a Daher Kodiak next!

  • @barrylinkiewich9688
    @barrylinkiewich9688 2 роки тому

    How about a video on the PC-21, or just for laughs PC-24?

  • @felixmccall4606
    @felixmccall4606 2 роки тому

    Any chance you could look at an old small king air, maybe an E90?

  • @balazsimricsko8460
    @balazsimricsko8460 2 роки тому +3

    Please do a large businessjet next, something like a G700 or Global8000 :)

  • @Zeleathos
    @Zeleathos 2 роки тому +5

    I would not complain about owning one 🤣🤣 my dream is the PC-24

  • @PetesGuide
    @PetesGuide 2 роки тому

    Another awesome airplane analysis (four As!). Can’t wait to see your long-form channel! (Bonus Walkaround? Complete Walkabout?)

  • @swiftarrow9
    @swiftarrow9 2 роки тому

    Would love to see something on the Pilates Porter!!!

  • @CarlosMendez-tn5zi
    @CarlosMendez-tn5zi 2 роки тому

    Im curious, do you know the Piuma Motorglider? Could you make a video about that one?
    Or any cheap motorglider in reality, Im very interested in the relaxing experience of just soaring in the air with the engine off.

  • @reubennewell103
    @reubennewell103 2 роки тому

    Hi LOVE your work man. Could you please review the Vans Aircraft soon? In particular the RV-7,9,10,12 and 14 models. Cheers!

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому

      Thanks. The easiest requests are the ones I already did 😃
      ua-cam.com/video/I_29S2Ygrrk/v-deo.html

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 2 роки тому

    I'll keep my L39, thank you very much!

  • @chiefrainingstereotype.4184
    @chiefrainingstereotype.4184 2 роки тому

    Yes!! Thank you for doing this one! Gold!

  • @rostamr4096
    @rostamr4096 2 роки тому

    Great and very useful comparison...just subbed

  • @CascadiaAviation
    @CascadiaAviation 2 роки тому

    Wow LOVED the video dude!

  • @jadenjames1640
    @jadenjames1640 2 роки тому

    request pc 24 please !, wonderful concise video also

  • @Patrickmahomie15
    @Patrickmahomie15 Рік тому

    The “we don’t hire crews, we fly our own damn planes thank you very much” had me rolling💀😂

  • @thatrandomguyinacorner2596
    @thatrandomguyinacorner2596 2 роки тому

    My favorite single engine by far.

  • @pietrooliani3251
    @pietrooliani3251 2 роки тому +1

    what about a p 180? probably one of the highest performing single pilot TP out there

    • @niio111
      @niio111 2 роки тому

      The vid was about single engine, not single pilot.

  • @RocketAnthem
    @RocketAnthem 2 роки тому

    Can you do one of the turbine conversions? Cessna Silver Eagle?

  • @jffilms8656
    @jffilms8656 2 роки тому

    Can you do Beechcraft King Air B200??

  • @rojaunjames747
    @rojaunjames747 2 роки тому

    Can you do the boeing 747 next I think it's definitely more affordable than the spitfire

  • @kevinradtke3767
    @kevinradtke3767 2 роки тому

    Were you at airventure?

  • @marleybuchanan5366
    @marleybuchanan5366 2 роки тому

    Can you do the diamond da50

  • @ewhays
    @ewhays 2 роки тому

    Fantastic air ambulance too! Vanderbilt uses one.

  • @msteele3199
    @msteele3199 2 роки тому +1

    Pressurized with a big cargo door and trailing link gear. 👍🏻

  • @MrChrisMaq
    @MrChrisMaq 2 роки тому

    At last! Thanks!

  • @spaced-mouse
    @spaced-mouse 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video!

  • @paulbikle3791
    @paulbikle3791 Рік тому +1

    With your variable cost numbers. How many hours a year is that based off of?
    2:52

  • @seungjoonoh9
    @seungjoonoh9 2 роки тому

    Can you do Mitsubishi Mu-2? I came across with this aircraft not too long ago, and it is very fascinating aircraft

    • @niio111
      @niio111 2 роки тому

      not single engine

  • @SnowboardRipper162
    @SnowboardRipper162 2 роки тому

    Do the Piaggio Avanti Evo II next!

  • @juug7863
    @juug7863 2 роки тому

    Amazing content!

  • @russroams
    @russroams 2 роки тому

    I love your animations and would love to hear about how you create them ❤️

  • @floridaman7178
    @floridaman7178 2 роки тому +1

    Me: When are you going to make the Kodiak video?
    CW: Let me introduce you to the PC-12.
    Me:😛

  • @ivandieguez5996
    @ivandieguez5996 2 роки тому +3

    Well, the PC-12 can float just not very well and not for very long.

  • @neipamocal
    @neipamocal 2 роки тому

    In these videos does the payload include the weight of passengers?

  • @patchouliknowledge4455
    @patchouliknowledge4455 2 роки тому

    How did I end up here XD
    Came from the military procurement side of UA-cam, and I have no plans to buy a plane, but hey, at least this is pretty interesting :)

  • @Daxun155
    @Daxun155 2 роки тому +2

    Dat straw tho

  • @emrebaskocak
    @emrebaskocak 2 роки тому

    Excellent video! I think you should take a look at Pacific Aerospace PAC P-750 XSTOL. A turboprop single with a PT6 of about 4000lbs useful load, 140kt cruise speed, 1200nm range. It claims to have a take off roll of 721ft and a landing roll of only 543ft. Do you think this could compete against the Caravan?

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому

      Hi, thanks. P750 is an interesting one. In this video I was talking payload instead of useful load which I usually talk about. This plane doesn't seem to specify it's max payload but we could guess. It has a landing weight of 7125, remove an hour of fuel left in the tank and a 170 pound pilot and we're about 3000 pounds max payload. That's if it has no further restrictions (which pc12 does). That's still pretty good. Though it flies at 140 knots only. And I think high wings are preferred for cargo handling and rough field landings. Does it come on floats? I don't think I've seen it on floats before.

    • @joeobrien3541
      @joeobrien3541 2 роки тому

      I have over 1000 hours in a few PAC 750 aircraft. Comparing it to a PC12 is like comparing a Wilga to a Lear. They are not in the same category.

    • @emrebaskocak
      @emrebaskocak 2 роки тому

      @@joeobrien3541 Which is why I was comparing it to a Caravan instead. In your experience how do the two hold up against each other?

    • @joeobrien3541
      @joeobrien3541 2 роки тому

      @@emrebaskocak The Caravan is much more sturdily built, and higher quality in general. The PAC can be fun to fly, as it has a stick and is light, but it's basically like flying a tin can with a -34. Sourcing parts from New Zealand is, to put it nicely, a hassle. Many doublers have been "created" to reinforce under built structures.

  • @PrismofScience
    @PrismofScience 2 роки тому

    Curious about the king air 350er

  • @Yeroc357
    @Yeroc357 2 роки тому

    id love to see a piper senica

  • @waldobean7534
    @waldobean7534 2 роки тому +1

    Genesis 1.5 V3: Then the Lord made the decision to give man the ability to fly. Man made the PC12 in honor of that decision.

  • @WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD
    @WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD 2 роки тому

    Piper Colt, please!

  • @niio111
    @niio111 2 роки тому

    What's an F-35 Lightnint II?😀

  • @YaofuZhou
    @YaofuZhou 2 роки тому

    I died laughing at that F-35 reference LOL!

  • @Saturnius
    @Saturnius Рік тому

    Where is the PC 24 video? How will I indulge in fantasies without?

  • @JudsonGraham
    @JudsonGraham 2 роки тому

    this is youtube mastery.

  • @flybeep1661
    @flybeep1661 2 роки тому +2

    Cessna Grand Caravan, best jump plane for skydivers.

    • @reyesben
      @reyesben 2 роки тому

      I see a lot of twin otters in this role.

    • @flybeep1661
      @flybeep1661 2 роки тому +1

      @@reyesben Sure, if you have the money. Faster climb, same load capacity (18 jumper, 20 is possible but that's pushing it) but a bunch more expensive. Grand Caravan is better choice imho. About 20-22 min to 13.000 is good enough for me. Exit is exactly the same, side exit.

  • @meechy013
    @meechy013 Рік тому

    You sound like the guy from last man on earth. I was sitting here like why’s this guy sound so familiar

  • @user-ho1yn6ms7y
    @user-ho1yn6ms7y 2 роки тому +1

    “Can’t quite reach its straw” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @PetesGuide
      @PetesGuide 2 роки тому +1

      I don’t get the joke. Explain?

  • @rrad3926
    @rrad3926 2 роки тому

    I agree, who wouldn't?

  • @Idaho_Aviation
    @Idaho_Aviation 2 роки тому +1

    Kodiak released the new Kodiak 900 and now it competes with the "luxury" single engine aircraft

  • @peterwakeman9930
    @peterwakeman9930 2 роки тому

    Depreciation? A year an hour?

  • @doughboi007
    @doughboi007 Рік тому

    What does TBM stand for?

  • @tcdnbm
    @tcdnbm 2 роки тому

    Do you do all of the drawings yourself? They look good

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому +2

      I do, Thanks

    • @tcdnbm
      @tcdnbm 2 роки тому

      @@CompleteWalkaround what software do you use actually if you don’t mind me asking?

  • @coasternut3091
    @coasternut3091 Рік тому

    I always think that turboprops, especially the PC-12, look like they have a mustache because of the exhaust

  • @iowafarmboy
    @iowafarmboy 2 роки тому

    Does look like a great plane to dream about... as long you never have to worry about the bills 😅

  • @reyesben
    @reyesben 2 роки тому +1

    PC-12 from the ramp is jaw dropping. To think a PPL can fly it with a HP endorsement!
    When are you doing the SR-20 or SR-22? I’ve always wondered the cost to own something certified with a parachute! Does it need repacking? How much does that cost?
    I’ll stick with my PA-28-180 for now

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 2 роки тому

      HP/Complex/High Altitude. But your insurance _will_ require type training. We considered one of these in the late 1990s for our company.

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 роки тому

      SR 22 video is there now. Enjoy

    • @reyesben
      @reyesben 2 роки тому

      @@UncleKennysPlace good to know!

    • @reyesben
      @reyesben 2 роки тому

      @@CompleteWalkaround awesome 👏🏻

  • @JonesNate
    @JonesNate 2 роки тому

    I didn't quite hear...which single prop is capable of carrying the most passengers?
    Actually, I'm more interested in knowing "Which airplane carries the most passengers AND can take off/land on a 2800 or 3000 foot runway?"

    • @TheOwenMajor
      @TheOwenMajor 2 роки тому +1

      Probably either the Grand Caravan or Kodiak 100/900. Both are ~10 pax aircraft and can operate of sub 3000 foot runways.

  • @ReganShilling-ig4nk
    @ReganShilling-ig4nk Рік тому

    That’s my dream plane

  • @iamaerix
    @iamaerix 2 роки тому

    Lightnint II

  • @thomaslincoln401
    @thomaslincoln401 2 роки тому

    Absolutely the first thing I buy when I win the lottery

  • @queeny5613
    @queeny5613 2 роки тому

    Awesome