Elizabeth Wurtzel & David Samuels | Creatocracy
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Elizabeth Wurtzel, author of Prozac Nation, chats about her new book Creatocracy with journalist David Samuels.
Elizabeth Wurtzel, the writer and journalist celebrated for her memoir Prozac Nation, is coming to Strand to chat about her new book, Creatocracy! Elizabeth has written for The Wall Street Journal and The Guardian among other publications, and covered topics varying from David Foster Wallace to human rights in China, and her new book posits that the Constitution is the source of basically everything cool that ever happened in America.
Elizabeth is joined in conversation by Only Love Can Break Your Heart writer David Samuels.
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January 28, 2015
I just love her. The host is a real dink tho! She is intelligent and handling it well. She is right there won't be bands anymore. Times have changed. Everyone is on facebook all the time. I wonder what people do with their anxiety instead? Social media makes it worse. We are not here to do a google search we are here to have fun.
There won't be bands, but there will be pop stars. There won't be books, but there will be streaming series. No one wants to form the next Led Zeppelin, but there will be many who seek to be the next Rihanna. No one's interested in writing the next Huckleberry Finn, but there is interest in creating the next show like The Wire or Breaking Bad.
@@NJGuy1973 yes and they'll be a chip that puts information in your head. I get there will still be a future. but that doesn't have to do with the fact that there won't be music. Will there be music? It's primitive....
@@braneden I don't think music will cease to be created, but there may be less of it, and what is created will be strictly for obsessives. I've seen how casual fandom has been replaced by hardcore stanning.
Why this guy keeps interrupting her? so annoying. But Elizabeth handles him well, thank god. Almost giving up on this interview lol
every interview ive watched people are COMMITTED to undermining her, cutting her off, being condescending and facetious to her.
Yes! What is going on??
Everyone thinks they're talented so they buy into the meritocracy system. Elizabeth Wurtzel said the truth in this video. It's not that it's fair, it's that it seems easier to people that they're going to succeed personally in a meritocracy. Very flattering to the ego.
As John Steinbeck put it, socialism didn't catch on in America because in America, the poor don't see themselves as oppressed. They see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
This is pure gold.
RIP Lizzie 💚💚
I googled David Samuels and Elizabeth Wurtzel and it turns out that they were friends since childhood. So he's not just some pompous, sexist guy trying to dismiss her, even though it's easy to get that impression!
If art is not a crime spree then what's the point! Absolutely brilliant. RIP Elizabeth.
love you E.W.
i wish she had been invited to do more tv and filmed events more. thank god for the few podcasts that had the foresight to record her wonderful, improvisational thoughts
they need a better camera over at The Strand
This guy's terrible but more importantly, we miss you, Elizabeth!
she's my role model..love her !
The interviewer made this an opportunity for his bloated theorizing. Elizabeth couldn't have had a more selfish, self-promoting college dorm proctory of a guide in conversation than this guy. An almost Ron Burgundy--esque example of mansplaining. Somebody open a window.
Should say "STRANDED", behind them.
read Prozac Nation.
I did. What did you think of it?
R.I.P
Music today can only have extrinsic value, not intrinsic. Music only matters to the extent that it serves an value outside of itself. Billie Eilish only matters because she personifies Gen-Z angst. Lizzo only matters because she represents body positivity. Lil Nas X only matters because he represents the struggle for Black artists to gain acceptance in a traditionally White idiom. And the entire field of rock music no longer matters not because people don't pay for it, but because like jazz, it's can't be subversive anymore.
The late Ms. Wurtzel was correct. People don't pursue something without a monetary motive. But with all due respect to her legacy, she put the cart before the horse. It's not that money determines what society values. First a society decides what to value. The monetary rewards follow.
40:01 David Samuels: "Everybody made a lot of money."
I take it he didn't see "TLC: Behind The Music."
Envious man disrespecting an intelligent creative woman, this is wrong.
There will be books AND hypertext
luv
I liked Prozac Nation, but this talk is such an incredibly shallow assessment of art culture and economy. Kids don't make music anymore (they do actually) now they make apps bc that's where the money is. Did she ever stop to ask why we as a nation may have landed on apps instead of, say, flying cars or stage plays, or something else? To find the answer to that would take deeper thought and more committed research than she seems to be capable of.
It could be said that it's not that young people are less interested in producing new music, but that young people are less interested in consuming new music.
Music used to cost money. Now young people have access to everything for nothing. They don't need a new Led Zeppelin because they can listen to the original for nothing.
I concur with every other comment on this guy's insufferability. I hate the woke cancel culture shit but this guy is undeniably mansplaining. One of the deluded non geniuses she referenced.
Mansplaining is a terrible word. Just say "patronising" or "condescending".
has she relapsed on speed? she hasnt rambled like this since her ritalin days...
could very well be anxiety from this moderator. when you're on stage with someone who is hostile -- or when things just aren't going well with an audience in general -- you go into a mindset that does in fact resemble some parts of a speed/stimulant reaction.
@@xtymps she’s known him for a long time and their friends... so I’m pretty sure she’s on drugs.. watch her mouth..
This is really sick but I take Elizabeth seriously because she's fit or looks fit I guess and the fat guy I'm thinking go curl some weights or something dude I can't take him seriously because he looks lazy. I know that sad. But Elizabeth just never seemed lazy to me. Her mind at least it's so fast. The fluffy guy makes you wait too long for the point.
Nerds do not feel anything. They ruined the movies with CGI comic book shit.
Frank Zappa once said that the reason music was so awesome I'm the '60s is because the music industry was run by old guys who knew nothing about rock music. They knew they knew nothing about rock, they just told the artists, "do what makes money." Now you got fanboys running the music and movies businesses, going "no, I don't like that, do this instead."
This guy is unbearable
"Read your book" - How rude!
why is the interviewer so hostile? shooting down her every idea
He owns a book and record store I bet