Secrets Behind The Book Publishing World

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  • If you find the publishing world baffling, inaccessible and downright scary then watch this panel that will de-mystify the inner workings of the book world forever. Susan Shapiro moderates a panel of authors, agents, editors and talk about what it takes to get your book looked at by experts and published in the most desirable places.
    The 8 person panel is, from left to right, author Leigh Newman (Still Points North), author Moses Gates (Hidden Cities), book editor Danielle Perez (New American Library), journalism professor Susan Shapiro (New School, NYU), literary agent Matt Wise, author Royal Young (Fame Shark), literary agent Renee Zuckerbrot, and book editor Naomi Rosenblatt (Heliotrope Books)
    June 18, 2013
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  • @solomadman
    @solomadman 8 років тому +21

    Wow. This panel seems to indicate that the traditional publishing professionals don't take the content of the novel as the primary concern. How many great stories were missed because of a lack of ego-stroking? Scary.

    • @atropiaveteran
      @atropiaveteran 8 років тому +5

      Agreed, that is why self-published authors choose to go into business with themselves! :)

    • @neroresurrected
      @neroresurrected 5 років тому +2

      Their loss financially speaking of course, because more and more people are going the self publishing rout as a consequence despite the costs of endeavoring into it. It’s a much better investment and you keep control of your work and earn more money.

    • @CalebGriffinEsq
      @CalebGriffinEsq 4 роки тому +1

      Are you distinguishing ego-stroking from professionalism. If a writer fails to write a proper query letter, she has probably failed to write a decent novel.

    • @kallievartt8070
      @kallievartt8070 3 роки тому

      The Editor did say that one of her primary reasons for rejecting proposals was receiving a query without sufficient sample material. Of course, you need to present yourself professionally in any business proposal, but even then you need well-written content and an intriguing concept to back it up.

  • @RealistNo1
    @RealistNo1 6 років тому +6

    When do we (writers) actually get to write! Sounds like we need to wear every one of those peoples' hats. I'm perplexed and feel hopeless of breaking in when I don't know any of these people, don't take their classes or meet them in conferences. Why? I'm too busy trying to read and view THESE informational books, videos, magazines, how-tos, etc., as well as marketing news, and so on and so on, and so on...

  • @BossLifeHacks
    @BossLifeHacks 7 років тому +8

    Also, what´s up with agents saying they want their clients to know about marketing, I thought it´s an agent´s job to do that, that´s why authors seek out agents in the first place. I might be naive though, but I would not trust an agent that told me they don´t really know much about marketing and promotion.

    • @bijanbayne3259
      @bijanbayne3259 4 роки тому +2

      I can understand why they want you to know branding. I've written three. If an agent or editor knows you have baked in audiences (column, Twitter, podcast, played college ball, cuisine blog, previous book e.g.) they're informed re- sales. If they know you're aware of org's & conferences, book fairs, your audience demo, pitching, radio shows, review outlets, it's easier f/ them to work w/ you. And you have to fill out a marketing questionnaire when you get a book deal anyway. Which requires thought. Doesn't mean "I thought that was YOUR job". And your book proposal has sections titled "Audience", "Marketing", "What This Books Does That Others Don't", "Similar Works". I teach freelance writing

  • @FullPowerMasteryWithRa
    @FullPowerMasteryWithRa 6 років тому +7

    What a cold pannel of people. I don't feel like I would want to talk to or get to know any of these people personally. None of them look excited or inspired about anything. And I'm not sure what I should be getting out of this because they don't even inspire any good feeling for me when I watch this.

  • @shirleyperry-church6785
    @shirleyperry-church6785 8 років тому +5

    I love the part that says, "No never means no." I am now self published, but looking to go the traditional route. This has been very hard for me. I am getting positive rejection letters, responses that say my work has merit, my work is interesting, but it's not for me at this time. I am going to take some courses with Gotham Writers' Workshop in 2016. If there is any input out there, please share. I don't really know where I am going wrong. I am told to keep writing and submitting. So I shall.

  • @SziontificMystic
    @SziontificMystic 3 роки тому

    a lot of very valuable information here. appreciated & much obliged

  • @admiralbolitho540
    @admiralbolitho540 9 років тому +8

    I am amazed at the language thought acceptable by some in this video.

    • @Rob774
      @Rob774 9 років тому +6

      Interesting... so after an hour and half worth of helpful tidbits... this is what you got out of it?

  • @rosalynjennings919
    @rosalynjennings919 8 років тому +3

    Great video, its good to see people overcome problems. I am in process of 2 books. Called Forgiveness Goes Both Ways and 8 Steps Before You Say "I Do"

    • @tamara-tamara6404
      @tamara-tamara6404 5 років тому

      I wrote a book called A Memoir of Love in Genesis by Tamara Coleman released Jan. 2019
      How's your book going?

  • @imitchellgill
    @imitchellgill 9 років тому +4

    I can't help but wonder.....what does a literary agent bring to the table other than someone who takes a cut of your income? They wouldn't exist if they didn't have value, but I know what an editor does (can do). I'm not keen on having a literary agent, maybe self-publishing fits me better. Still, a great video.....thanks for posting.

    • @teaganmartin7918
      @teaganmartin7918 9 років тому

      +imitchellgill A lot of the big traditional publishing companies won't accept your book if it's not brought to their attention by a literary agent. So, if you wanted to have your book published in a larger publishing house, then you would be better off getting a literary agent.

    • @imitchellgill
      @imitchellgill 9 років тому +2

      +Teagan Martin I think that advice is sound and reasonable. But for me, I'll be going with a self-publishing model. I found a great publisher and we'll be working together just before the spring. I might be able to get my book out for the summer, or the fall. I cannot bring myself to jump through the hoops in the traditional world, and I find the sucking up nauseating. Not my thing.

    • @booktube1702
      @booktube1702 8 років тому

      +imitchellgill but with self publishing... You have to spend your own money which most people dont have

    • @imitchellgill
      @imitchellgill 8 років тому +2

      BookTube "there's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza." A shame that excuses can't be saved and sold. 😉 I'm doing without a lot of things to get my money saved. I may take a second menial job on the weekends. If you want control, ownership, and to keep your creative rights....seems like a pittance to me. Many musicians had to buy back the rights of their own songs. I know of one that spent $10,000 to get the rights back. They were glad they did when the song made a big comeback. If I don't sell a single book at least it was what I wanted it to be and it remains mine. Art matters.

    • @booktube1702
      @booktube1702 8 років тому

      how do you distribute a self published book? The big companies take care of all that.

  • @ve4mm
    @ve4mm 6 років тому +3

    Anthony Bordain said he would rather have lunch in a shark tank than with authors.

    • @shines9290
      @shines9290 4 роки тому

      As a writer himself, he should have hung out with Sci-Fi Fantasy authors. I wish he would have. They might have brought him more joy in his life. They also might have kept him away from the Clintons...

  • @GhingerT
    @GhingerT 9 років тому

    How do you decide to publish a book for an author? The video just answered that question. But would appreciate any imput you're like to share.

  • @ImmaterialDigression
    @ImmaterialDigression 9 років тому +3

    I like how they ask for chairs for people standing half an hour in, did they stand all that time? :(

  • @BossLifeHacks
    @BossLifeHacks 7 років тому +1

    This was truly an amazing video, I learned a lot. However, an important questions arises for a new author in this day and age. Is it worth the time to pursue traditional agents? With cuts around 15% compared to Amazon/Self Publishing 70%+, it really makes me wonder. Sure, there´s some work to it, but everything is figureoutable (to quote Marie Forleo).

    • @neroresurrected
      @neroresurrected 5 років тому +2

      No, self publishing is the “new” name in the game. The pros in self publishing out-weight the traditional rout’s pros in my opinion.

  • @MusicWithBob
    @MusicWithBob 5 років тому +1

    Can you find benchmark book publishing company in San Diego

  • @ve4mm
    @ve4mm 6 років тому +3

    The book industry is worse than the music industry. More egos. Best to have a profession and write as a hobby. Writes make no money unless you are Steven King or JKR.

  • @germanshepherd1886
    @germanshepherd1886 2 роки тому

    Whispering winds coming southeast a blowing and tell what they're knowing from mountain to sea right through me they be calling for my lives overhauling for the winds hield of my destiny and so it begins with The whisper of wind and my anchor come up from the sea with my sales pulled tight I'll make my way through the night and on to this new destiny. Eric A Drake

  • @YellowhatDick
    @YellowhatDick 6 років тому +2

    People are gross.

  • @KingsofCowan
    @KingsofCowan 10 років тому

    LOL. HA HA HA HA. LOL. Aloha

  • @mblake4007
    @mblake4007 4 роки тому +1

    Real good and useful advice! Thank you