NIGMA vs TUNDRA - SWISS STAGE DAY 3 - ELITE LEAGUE 2024 DOTA 2

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  • Опубліковано 1 кві 2024
  • Commentary by Danog Epidamnos
    NIGMA vs TUNDRA - SWISS STAGE - ELITE LEAGUE 2024 DOTA 2
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  • @febriliaadicandra7287
    @febriliaadicandra7287 2 місяці тому +31

    "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become a clown"

  • @nerocetie69
    @nerocetie69 2 місяці тому +15

    Bro missing the arrow combo is wild

  • @amdslamdsl
    @amdslamdsl 2 місяці тому +20

    When you have already known nigma was stomped because the video duration was less than 18

  • @urekmazino777
    @urekmazino777 2 місяці тому +17

    Shadow demon 4? Kuro mirana? Mid earthspirit? Rip draft 💀💀

  • @navneetgulati6103
    @navneetgulati6103 2 місяці тому +8

    Man Kuroky is literally Archon Player

  • @jadetaylor6093
    @jadetaylor6093 2 місяці тому +13

    Doesnt ban chen, doesmt ban topson sniper, picking mid earth spirit, so many priblems with every kuro draft. Dude needs to put the work in if he's gonna be a captain, or make room for someone else.

    • @xrainmank
      @xrainmank 2 місяці тому

      He is only in it for the Arab money from sponsors lol. Look at them, Etihad as sponsors lol 😂. Meanwhile no one is sponsoring Chinese teams and that region is in disarray.

    • @Mayrik92
      @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому +2

      Do you think banning topson heros will make difference? the dude can literally play any hero as midlaner. (btw they banned sniper 2nd game and still got rekt)

    • @xrainmank
      @xrainmank 2 місяці тому

      @@Mayrik92 Nah nothing makes a difference, a better team will still beat you by outplaying you regardless.

  • @limpeh845
    @limpeh845 2 місяці тому +20

    I'm miracle fan, it's time to watch 2017 true sight

  • @dope7000
    @dope7000 2 місяці тому +204

    I think I'm better than KuroKy. Like if you agree

    • @Smoked.X
      @Smoked.X 2 місяці тому +1

      You are better than w33 too😂😂😂

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 2 місяці тому +4

      You are far better than all Nigma players,…And YES! Including Miracle

    • @Mayrik92
      @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому +3

      You are the best dota player ever dude!

    • @tuyenmanh6992
      @tuyenmanh6992 2 місяці тому +2

      Temporarily teamless future TI winner right here.

    • @anthonyking6309
      @anthonyking6309 2 місяці тому +2

      You will be the first triple ti winner 🎉😂

  • @_icve
    @_icve 2 місяці тому +11

    9:38 disruption + arrow still miss :3

  • @adrianojr.damoslog2104
    @adrianojr.damoslog2104 2 місяці тому +5

    That was the longest fountain farm in a while.

  • @amirasyraf1032
    @amirasyraf1032 2 місяці тому +12

    Seeing Miracle being humiliated like this. Very sad

  • @Robinnxx93
    @Robinnxx93 2 місяці тому +7

    Holyhexor will upload with tears

  • @ameerulaslam4388
    @ameerulaslam4388 2 місяці тому +8

    Kuroky = Professional Career Destroyer

  • @guardianfrez3234
    @guardianfrez3234 2 місяці тому +11

    Is kuroky pos 4 or 5, his playstyle is hard to understand which role his playing
    Always picking right click base hero when the meta is about skills base for pos 4 & 5
    Got 100% lost rate with Mirana still picking like it's the only thing he's comfortable playing it.

    • @bebeccabeb
      @bebeccabeb 2 місяці тому +1

      The purpose is clear, kuro provide food for enemy team

    • @HatiKeseorangan
      @HatiKeseorangan 2 місяці тому

      @@bebeccabeb dota 2 now day cannot play support as a food, kill support means u get 5 stack natural camp....

  • @Rickendx21
    @Rickendx21 2 місяці тому +5

    If u see thumbnail nigma. U already know how its done

  • @zulhaimizoule1937
    @zulhaimizoule1937 2 місяці тому +8

    U know it’s auto win for opponent when Kuro pick Mirana😂😂😂

    • @esef8069
      @esef8069 2 місяці тому

      ikr? tf he always pick mirana idont understand

  • @md.khaleduzzaman9608
    @md.khaleduzzaman9608 2 місяці тому +7

    Well play kuro your are MVP for nice draft and legendery mirana play

  • @wreckingball5596
    @wreckingball5596 2 місяці тому +2

    What a humiliation, that fountain dive

  • @Gearleyveloso
    @Gearleyveloso 2 місяці тому +5

    Let me guess, another mirana from kuro and 0 arrows landed.

  • @icewallowcome2536
    @icewallowcome2536 2 місяці тому +6

    0:55 look at what kuro did. he just pushes the creeps outside the tower range. miracle cant farm lol

    • @venkata224
      @venkata224 2 місяці тому

      I'm glad you noticed that too, this is exactly what he does in lane, Even in life stealer game this was the situation at bot, he always aggro creeps like a herald

    • @ameliacortez4510
      @ameliacortez4510 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly not many people noticing this minor misplays by kuro... With due respect he was once upon a time a very decent player but... He is getting old now and making minute mistakes which later build up

    • @wewel5949
      @wewel5949 2 місяці тому

      That's what I thought, i was like why are you pulling the creeps away from your 'safe lane' kuro...

  • @DaveeeDavee
    @DaveeeDavee 2 місяці тому

    Usually a draft like Tundra's in game 1 doesn't work well but it actually complement the tempo so damn well.

  • @jehanzebazhar7840
    @jehanzebazhar7840 2 місяці тому +7

    Kuro getting last hit kills.. lol

  • @gboy6120
    @gboy6120 2 місяці тому +6

    I dont have so much hope for nigma but tundra should be able to compete with ts and falcon

  • @lhantful
    @lhantful 2 місяці тому

    Wtf is that dagger range at 2:45? I didn't expect that to be that far

  • @frozenkuku
    @frozenkuku 2 місяці тому +4

    Yup 12:08, Sumail's smoke breaks, he realizes he doesn't have invis and still walks up hg, such a fatal mistake. 14:58 when Pure blinks in, Miracle doesn't rage, Sumail doesn't bkb. I'm a Nigma fan but seriously wtf man...

    • @zemel2050
      @zemel2050 2 місяці тому

      Playing wr vs pugna what a joke

    • @frozenkuku
      @frozenkuku 2 місяці тому

      @@zemel2050 I mean despite the draft, they made such simple mistakes for players at their level. Not to mention Sumail spent so long getting BKB only to not use it at the most important Rosh fight of the game.

    • @tuguldur2546
      @tuguldur2546 2 місяці тому

      ye moment luna blinks tundra is commited to the fight miracle and sumail both should have used bkb/rage

  • @zacharyjohnson7944
    @zacharyjohnson7944 2 місяці тому +4

    What has happened to Sumail and Miracle, in neither game did they do anything.

    • @yomista
      @yomista 2 місяці тому

      what can you expect a mid Earth Spirit vs Sniper ? thats an ez win for sniper
      and 2nd game Nigma was leading tho by only 1k till they started losing team fights and got luna fat

  • @samgreen9754
    @samgreen9754 2 місяці тому +8

    Sucks to see nigma lose so convincingly but unfortunately they play too old a style of dota. The best teams these days are playing aggressive heroes and fighting as 5 from 10-12 Mins onwards. Nigma seems to think they can get away with 2-3man ganks across the river and farming on carries until 20min+

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 2 місяці тому

      Nahhh
      even if Falcon are playing old-style they still win against Nigma playing new-style
      its the players not the draft or the gamestyle

  • @wewel5949
    @wewel5949 2 місяці тому +7

    14:55 passive bkb from mid king 💀

    • @mobusherkayani5574
      @mobusherkayani5574 2 місяці тому +1

      You must be 10k mmr sir
      bold comment 😂

    • @wewel5949
      @wewel5949 2 місяці тому

      @@mobusherkayani5574 anyone can see that was a silly mistake haha

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 2 місяці тому +1

      Meanwhile 12:08 Topson instant BKB without no hesitation
      Mid King vs Mid God

  • @thexgamer8240
    @thexgamer8240 2 місяці тому +1

    Topson vs Sumail, the battle of the legendary midlaners.

  • @pewdiepieyepthomi5174
    @pewdiepieyepthomi5174 2 місяці тому +6

    Players should stop joining nigma until kuroky leaves

  • @firdaushusin5446
    @firdaushusin5446 2 місяці тому +13

    miracle and sumail , always wasting time with kuro , find better team

  • @coolkevs2371
    @coolkevs2371 2 місяці тому +8

    Tundra once again abusing khanda meta and nigma doing nothing like boomers

    • @quanvuminh9727
      @quanvuminh9727 2 місяці тому

      tobi always picks panda and 9class techie is dangerous, they know and still let tundra have techie fist game and they lost 4 heroes at mid then game flipped

  • @parthajitjana2222
    @parthajitjana2222 2 місяці тому +2

    If you want to difference between 2 team look at the second game. Both teams carry fed in early game, luna recovered like crazy by constant stacking of his 2 supports. Nigmas 2 supports didnt even execute their combos wih mirana ,sd,nstacking is another thing.

    • @shin29534
      @shin29534 2 місяці тому

      I mean pure is one of the best carries right now ans whitemon and 9class are also top tier supports. Can't say the same for kuroky although matthew and miracle is good

  • @No0bzhacked
    @No0bzhacked 2 місяці тому +7

    Cat @ 10:40

  • @cubbykeow6807
    @cubbykeow6807 2 місяці тому +8

    Kuro's haters please fill the the blank
    ______ is the problem

    • @CheeKiatTeo
      @CheeKiatTeo 2 місяці тому +3

      I'm not one to blame, but W33 literally did nothing this game

    • @downeyjr3603
      @downeyjr3603 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@CheeKiatTeowake up from 2019 already

  • @hamzabinabid6752
    @hamzabinabid6752 2 місяці тому +3

    Another Master Class draft from Kuroky lol

  • @xicheeal
    @xicheeal 2 місяці тому +2

    kinda sad the only play miracle did was the amulet toggle

  • @aska5858
    @aska5858 2 місяці тому +7

    bullied again by Topson 😂

  • @user-hx1ob7sl8o
    @user-hx1ob7sl8o 2 місяці тому +3

    Kuroky should do the scene a favor by not bringing Sumail and Miracle down with him. Time to retire.

  • @nurbarys
    @nurbarys 2 місяці тому +3

    Kuro's problem that he thinks he can outdraft enemy. Like in 2nd game he opened SD and allowed Tundra pick Luna, one of the metiest carry in this patch, after ban of morf. Cmon, he always underestimates opposite drafter

    • @HatiKeseorangan
      @HatiKeseorangan 2 місяці тому

      they not come togather.. mirana and SD show low teamwork position...

    • @Hideyoshi1268
      @Hideyoshi1268 2 місяці тому +2

      Their hero draft is always the same. 99% same hero pick.thats y they r lossing 😂

  • @tommasopisapia7464
    @tommasopisapia7464 2 місяці тому +6

    SPOILER
    Tundra made it look like a pub game, even with the fountain dive at the end of both games

  • @TheBakaoBakao
    @TheBakaoBakao 2 місяці тому +4

    Game 2: Finding Kuro

  • @benimchen6127
    @benimchen6127 2 місяці тому +4

    I feel like we can form a random team and still beat nigma.

  • @icewallowcome2536
    @icewallowcome2536 2 місяці тому +2

    me before watching the video:
    let see kuro lose again 😢

  • @fumlefinger92
    @fumlefinger92 2 місяці тому +3

    imagine 5 man hiding behind rosh. and the wr hiding there shoots out and arrow and show entire enemy team where u are hiding XDXD holy fuck you have to be mentally gone to make such a move sumail

  • @rizkyfr4231
    @rizkyfr4231 2 місяці тому

    Cant wait for Kuro's farewell

  • @sabbatus
    @sabbatus 2 місяці тому +1

    tundra techies is wild and they always pick it im suprised the other teams don't ban it as soon as they can
    strong laner mid game nuker late game disabler and vision giver

  • @RedRanchu
    @RedRanchu 2 місяці тому +5

    I cant understand why Etihad sponsor Nigma, bruh its a losing team. Sponsor LGD instead at least they have Xiao8 a REAL captain, Kuro is just too bad at managing a team.

  • @socrates1796
    @socrates1796 2 місяці тому +3

    lol, kuro cant even land arrow on disruption

  • @goatlight2220
    @goatlight2220 2 місяці тому +2

    When you see mirana means GGEZ

  • @popsmoke3390
    @popsmoke3390 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm a big fan of miracle, but he's making me mad because why don't he just leave this kuro behind?

    • @58prayagpomaje42
      @58prayagpomaje42 2 місяці тому

      I don't think he's playing that bad to get such treatment. It's team game not one man show anymore.

  • @delsocorromarcdavea.2871
    @delsocorromarcdavea.2871 2 місяці тому

    To be expected

  • @edd9249
    @edd9249 2 місяці тому +4

    Tundra supports are playing like supports in SEA pubs lot of networth

  • @nvidia980
    @nvidia980 2 місяці тому +6

    17:03 This is the best play for Nigma WOW 😳😳😳

  • @solaire6116
    @solaire6116 2 місяці тому +1

    Doom 4?

  • @imnewbie4470
    @imnewbie4470 2 місяці тому +12

    Nigma is back

  • @buknoyglamorosa
    @buknoyglamorosa 2 місяці тому +4

    When did kuro mirana win games???

    • @Mayrik92
      @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому +1

      its a support! blame the cores that cant carry

    • @shin29534
      @shin29534 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Mayrik92he always gets caught out of position lol he is the weaklink. Nigma needs good supports to enable sumail

    • @Mayrik92
      @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому

      @@shin29534 why you blame kuro but dont blame sumail, their team died many times cuz his yolo initiations yesterday against tundra

    • @buknoyglamorosa
      @buknoyglamorosa 2 місяці тому

      @@Mayrik92 if u really Watch nigma games. U know kuro is the problem. Starting from draft, feeding, play like archon, stealing kill from pos1 and pos2.

    • @Mayrik92
      @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому

      @@buknoyglamorosa you are obsessed with kuro

  • @fuu6490
    @fuu6490 2 місяці тому +2

    Nigma continuing 4 years circle of failure let's go !!

  • @remu4825
    @remu4825 2 місяці тому +2

    nobody say sd kept using skill 1 on wr and it make only worse

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 2 місяці тому

      Blame on support LMAO
      Nigma's core kept on fucking it up
      Instead of Disrupting enemy Luna, he's now supposed to do defensive style by saving stupid Teammates who just dies right after being saved

  • @alienvisitor3612
    @alienvisitor3612 2 місяці тому

    Is Gh is kicked out from nigmas?

  • @jamesberdindang7018
    @jamesberdindang7018 2 місяці тому +7

    Kuroky shud stop playing competitive anymore.. he’s so $hit now.. kuroky is the problem in the nigma

  • @rendydestara2584
    @rendydestara2584 2 місяці тому +8

    Kuro so freaking egoistic, go out yourself and let your team shine bro, seriously, what an ego capt ..

    • @witchhunted4297
      @witchhunted4297 2 місяці тому +2

      why are you talking as if they can't leave the team or sum???

    • @HarisKhan-qy3sy
      @HarisKhan-qy3sy 2 місяці тому +3

      Nah bro miracle washed up too. 0 map awareness and positioning in game 1

    • @erixdiandra4582
      @erixdiandra4582 2 місяці тому +1

      why u kick the owner???why not ur self go out???

    • @rendydestara2584
      @rendydestara2584 2 місяці тому

      @@erixdiandra4582 Being owner for losing? What's the point be the owner then 😂 If he let other player playing then maybe he got more money, right? 😂

    • @rendydestara2584
      @rendydestara2584 2 місяці тому

      @@witchhunted4297 Can they?

  • @youssifmomen557
    @youssifmomen557 2 місяці тому +1

    why summail and miracle just leave the team what is happening

  • @Mayrik92
    @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому +6

    Everyone blaming kuro and miracle but nobody blames sumail, their team died so much because his failed yolo initiations 😂

  • @Nishaisthebestplayer
    @Nishaisthebestplayer 2 місяці тому +2

    Miracle keep throwing the game and Kuro 0 impact as usual gg...

  • @jeffersonkoh9004
    @jeffersonkoh9004 2 місяці тому +4

    They actually lost to a Snipe Drow lineup

  • @damfacker1134
    @damfacker1134 2 місяці тому

    Why is a herald team fighting with a T1 team

  • @whitebeard1210
    @whitebeard1210 2 місяці тому +7

    Nah it is not just kuroky, miracle sumail are out of date
    Now many pos1&2 better then them

    • @Neriff-
      @Neriff- 2 місяці тому +1

      It doesn't matter,bring yatoro or any tier 1 current midlaners play with kuro,it is an autolose.

  • @69fyou
    @69fyou 2 місяці тому +4

    Navi is “back” . Nigma is “back “too .

  • @loganwolverine1990
    @loganwolverine1990 2 місяці тому

    Time to past down the torch .. end of an era

  • @OhTwistFx
    @OhTwistFx 2 місяці тому +1

    What if sumail isn’t trying cause he’s not happy being at nigma so he’s not trying. Cause he was destroying every mid last year

    • @NONO-hz4vo
      @NONO-hz4vo 2 місяці тому +1

      That would make him a loser or a head case. Either way not good. Probably just that the talent in the mid has grown all around and it isn't easy to dominate any more.

  • @lhantful
    @lhantful 2 місяці тому +2

    No gege from miracle. Feel sad for him. He needs to go back to mid and kuro needs to watch from the bench

  • @christopherfagaragan1832
    @christopherfagaragan1832 2 місяці тому +2

    drow sniper cent oldskul dota

  • @oNeHanDGuN
    @oNeHanDGuN 2 місяці тому

    Fight against nigma is like bonus stage lol

  • @andid2769
    @andid2769 2 місяці тому +2

    Miracle is baaaackkkkk 😅😅😅

  • @mockingjay6059
    @mockingjay6059 2 місяці тому

    Sumail and Miracle should swap roles with this line up

  • @ilhankey7815
    @ilhankey7815 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel sorry for matthew and fbz. I miss gh

  • @riscohardiyanto6555
    @riscohardiyanto6555 2 місяці тому

    Tundra VS Old Machine

  • @lenx3130
    @lenx3130 2 місяці тому +1

    No need spoiler block even u see thumbnail u know who win

  • @meiseve2683
    @meiseve2683 2 місяці тому +2

    no kick kuro = no win

  • @fransiskusr.a.8989
    @fransiskusr.a.8989 2 місяці тому

    FastFromUA strikes again

  • @kucingonline2359
    @kucingonline2359 2 місяці тому

    cant play pugna or mk early in today farming patch wont survive in late, unless your enemy tier 2 team and you have luna late

    • @Mayrik92
      @Mayrik92 2 місяці тому

      pugna literally counter windranger as core

  • @sabrielguindon148
    @sabrielguindon148 2 місяці тому

    I struggle to think picking Earth Spirit mid versus Topson can ever be a rational decision. Particularly if you're the team that lost Ti9 to this guy.

  • @akashashokdesai5058
    @akashashokdesai5058 2 місяці тому +1

    Somehow topson's team always ends up fountain diving! Lol!

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 2 місяці тому

      fountain farming*

  • @lenx3130
    @lenx3130 2 місяці тому +1

    Tundra just having fun with tier 3 team 😅

  • @hoohsowner697
    @hoohsowner697 2 місяці тому +1

    Just as I thought kuro start to have better draft on last match, now he drafted this....1st match draft is stupid against sniper drow, 2nd match mirana again which has no impact on supporting *facepalm*

  • @loust1264
    @loust1264 2 місяці тому +4

    who tf plays es mid this patch

  • @mitrarai5680
    @mitrarai5680 2 місяці тому +10

    Team Nigma n Team Secret should retire .
    Their prime was gone .

    • @Hideyoshi1268
      @Hideyoshi1268 2 місяці тому +1

      What do you mean team nigma n team secret... The player should retire not the hold industry and it's not that all player are bad..its there draft that is bad every match they play 99% same hero pick

    • @rosemary1346
      @rosemary1346 2 місяці тому +1

      Is the player not the team, if watch carefully their history match

    • @mitrarai5680
      @mitrarai5680 2 місяці тому

      @@rosemary1346 dont take so personal baby 😜

    • @mitrarai5680
      @mitrarai5680 2 місяці тому

      @@Hideyoshi1268 jst chill dude

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 2 місяці тому

      I'd say,...
      Kuroky, Puppey, Miracle, should retire
      They're not THAT good anymore, however SumaiL, Fbz, Matthew, Ah Fu, Crystallis, BOOM, Kordan still has potential

  • @spritesprite2720
    @spritesprite2720 2 місяці тому

    Nigma right now is a bonus round on other teams. Always an auto win. With kuro's non-stop mirana pick that didnt work.

  • @majdalmohanna3038
    @majdalmohanna3038 2 місяці тому

    Enigma playing like its 2014

  • @harrismazari5484
    @harrismazari5484 2 місяці тому

    pure way too good

  • @cararararam4290
    @cararararam4290 2 місяці тому +4

    kuro, it's time for retired

  • @sheyzannaizer1113
    @sheyzannaizer1113 2 місяці тому +1

    Idk man. It feels like Nigma’s draft is so behind. They are like the internet explorer of drafting. It’s not that they aren’t doing anything new from their usual picks, they are. - it’s just late and outdated.

    • @cpilfold420
      @cpilfold420 2 місяці тому +2

      their drafts have been fine
      you're just looking for something to blame to compensate for your lack of understanding

    • @witchhunted4297
      @witchhunted4297 2 місяці тому +1

      internet explorer of pos1 as well

  • @LXnobia
    @LXnobia 2 місяці тому +1

    10:40 announcer tweaking

  • @AkiraAkeno
    @AkiraAkeno 2 місяці тому +1

    where is the trashtalking again between them? lmao

  • @eidenel4423
    @eidenel4423 2 місяці тому +2

    Literaly bring miracle back to mid maan

    • @nnk9305
      @nnk9305 Місяць тому

      And what get stomped even more?
      Miracle can't even compete with Topson rn

  • @altannedjati9861
    @altannedjati9861 2 місяці тому +3

    Why people never ban sniper for Topson?!! This guy picked up that hero 2 times in 4 games, already. Pfff, " PRo'es".

    • @Neriff-
      @Neriff- 2 місяці тому

      That's the difference between you and them. They are the real pros while you just 1k random pub 'pros'. iQ's gap.

    • @tommasopisapia7464
      @tommasopisapia7464 2 місяці тому +1

      they banned topson heroes the next game and it didn't change much, topson can play pretty much anything mid even unconventional mid heroes

    • @altannedjati9861
      @altannedjati9861 2 місяці тому

      @@Neriff- About the hidden intents and IQ gap. The score in the end says it all , loko friend. the way you speak gives up all for your IQ as well.

    • @Neriff-
      @Neriff- Місяць тому

      @@altannedjati9861 so you know better than the pros? What to ban what to pick? Maybe you should apply for a coach position instead of barking here. The pros are terrible making mistake for not ban topson sniper because of topson small hero pool lol 🤡. 1k analyze

  • @violence1429
    @violence1429 2 місяці тому +3

    I came here to see nigma lose

  • @sabbatus
    @sabbatus 2 місяці тому +1

    12:08

  • @zizouwowist1641
    @zizouwowist1641 2 місяці тому +10

    kick w33

    • @sai78206
      @sai78206 2 місяці тому

      are you internet explorer user? they did long time back

    • @hashbroun3444
      @hashbroun3444 2 місяці тому

      and still picking wr lmaoo

    • @leonardoagcoelho
      @leonardoagcoelho 2 місяці тому +1

      @@sai78206 Sarcasm. They blame w33 when they lose. Now the team keep being obliterate

    • @zizouwowist1641
      @zizouwowist1641 2 місяці тому +1

      the irony is rich@@sai78206

    • @fordgaming4326
      @fordgaming4326 2 місяці тому

      ​@@leonardoagcoelho its because if kuro