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What does it mean to say someone is a "good" student? Today Danielle breaks down the stereotype of the perfect student and why grades alone don't define children. She also examines the systems and barriers that stop young girls and students of color from reaching their fullest potential.
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~Danielle
Growing up in Roxbury, which is part of the Boston School District, during the 60s, there was a great amount of disturbing challenges almost everyday. Whether it was favoritism for lighter skin students, girls with longer hair, teachers that didn't want to be there, chronic asthma, poor building heat on very cold days, bullies, etc., etc., etc.,. The reality was that it was clear from an early age that knowledge was beneficial and that acquiring it was crucial by any means necessary ! Thanks Danielle for sharing your story with this old African American guy!
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Europeans did not enslave African's. According to the Bible you stand corrected your European education has failed you. Hebrew Israelites were enslaved by Europeans.
Deuteronomy 28:68
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68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
Exodus 20:2
King James Version
2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
To me, a good student is someone who makes an effort to learn. Even if they fail.
I have learned more than I ever thought possible on my own after dropping out of school. I can learn very quickly if it is presented in a way that engages and interests me. In school they want you to remember the dates things happened in history, I cant do that. However give me time to prepare and I could fill a few hours with what i learned reading about what actually happened in history, i just wont be able to pin the numbers down.
Effort? Effort means exactly zero in the world. You either produce RESULTS, or you're dropped to a lower level in the academic tracking path. Failure means your academic record is dented and you're obviously in the wrong place.
@Instrumentality1000 "As there are other factors that figure into whether you manage to be successful in your chosen field." - The answer to that isn't pretty.
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Essentialist thinking is such a problem in education. Kids get trained to think of themselves as smart or dumb, and it hurts all of them in the long run.
Would you say this is unique to U.S. education?
I could literally cry hearing you validate my struggles
I'm a black male with ADHP who has been in college since 2015
I know what needs to be done and if I didn't get a therapist for myself
when I was having suicidal thoughts from bad college grades I really don't
know if I'd still be in college or even alive
thank you
Torian L Hope glad your alive to keep going.
I'm glad you stayed. :) Have a beautiful day!
Wait did I hear that correctly? When attending school, children can be searched and may need to go through a metal detector? And then, when you get to class, you need to put your hand over your heart and pledge allegiance to the flag of your country? This does not sound like a very healthy environment for children to gain their education.
EozTheNew yeah, thankfully they didn’t have us do that stuff at the school I went to, but I know of many others who did
After they remodeled my high school they put metal detectors in all the entrances and students aren’t allowed into class if they aren’t wearing an id badge. When I was still in high school there were always cops patrolling the halls and they would even bring the drug sniffer dogs in every once in a while just to intimidate people. And I went to a rich white kid school. Granted there were lots of poor kids too, I was one of them, but it’s a rich school. I never thought of it as anything other than normal but now I realize that it’s crazy. They treat all kids like they’re potential criminals and it needs to stop
I have four daughters that are all in love with the Origins of everything. Even the five year old prefers to watch a show hosted by a “cool women” rather than a “boring old man.” Thank you for the tremendous work you do and the example you set.
I feel you on the mental health problems. When I was in school, I would always get an ‘A’ or an ‘F’ on assignments, no in between. I had really bad depression, bulimia, anxiety, ptsd, and adhd. When I had good days I could hyper focus and get my work done and exceed expectations, but on bad days it could take me hours just to read a few pages. I got Counciling, but it didn’t seem to help. All the way up through college, I was seen as a bad student, even though I studied so much and worked really hard when I could. Even still, I managed to graduate early with a major and two minors. I’m really proud of myself academically, even if my grades don’t reflect it.
I have several learning and processing disorders that have greatly affected my educational experiences. I’m a pretty good student when my accommodations are met, but I really suffer when they’re not. Sadly, this seemed to baffle the administration who couldn’t comprehend the idea of a smart special ed student. While I have had a lot of supportive teachers, over the course of my education, I was ignored, denied participation in class activities, accused of cheating, and even cussed out by teachers. Thankfully I was able to make it through the system, but I know a lot of people in the disabled community who aren’t so lucky
Finally, someone like me😅
I’m so happy that this video was created. Because it’s true. We need to overhaul the school system to address bias against marginalized students, as well as focusing on restorative rather than putative me a shares of dealing with students miss behavior.
Wow. Thank you for this. It hurts to see educators call the police on 6 year old girls in order to punish them for behavioral issues. They are undoubtedly traumatized by this experience. What does _that_ teach them?
That they don't want to be in school and that teachers don't care about helping them.
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My husband was one of those brilliant, straight-A, poor behavior kids who got into a lot of trouble at school because he was bored. I don't think anyone really tried anything other than kicking him out for a couple of days at a time. He spent a lot of time reading independently and loves to learn so much that he never checked out, even though institutional education wasn't for him. He never graduated college, but is a self-taught programming polyglot who's also a gifted musician and writer. By all accounts, he should have been a "good student," but teachers seemed put off (or maybe intimidated?) by his presence. And when he realized the person with whom he was neck-in-neck for valedictorian dropped a class simply because it threatened her GPA, he just threw his hands up at the whole process and coasted the rest of the way through high school.
My oldest son was exactly like that. He even tested into the Mensa society. I mean project kid genius, what could come of that, right? He actually hacked into the school's grading system, and gave every student "A's", because he thought the whole system was a joke! Owns his own heating and air business now and interprets multiple languages part time.
"By all accounts he should have been a good student", no he shouldn't. Only because he had good grades it didn't justify his (as you admitted) terriblly bad behavior. "Oh, he got bored". So? That is not a valid excuse to vandalize the class with misbiheavior. ALL students in the class get bored from time to time. It's humanly impossible to be entertained in all of the high shcool classrooms and subjects (some may prefer history, others maths, others philosophy, etc.). No one can be interested in literally all of the classes. That does not excuse insulting the teacher or other classmates, being a disrespectful person that says non-respectful things to the teacher or someone who laughs all the time while the teacher is explaining, interrupting the right to learn of his classmates. Good students behave well. A good student has both good grades AND good behavior, just like a good teacher teaches good AND behaves well. No matter how great a teacher explains, he's a bad teacher if he treats bad his students. Analogously, no matter how many A+ grades a student collects, if he's disrespectful to the teacher and/or his classmates, he is not a good student, as he's interrputing the right to study of his classmates and sabotaing the lesson that the teacher prepared. Also, your husband is no genius, stop describing him as if he's some kind of Aristotle or Leonardo Da Vinici. A genius is a person with the higher intellectual powers. Needless to say, the greatest sign of genius is the influence and legacy he produces in a particular intellectual field, be it the art or the sciences. Generally speaking, a good sign of genius is his body of writings, or at least his artistic productions. A genius' work will find its echo in eternity: his work will be discussed for millenials, like Plato, Aristotle, Cervantes, Newton or Einstein. Has your husband published any influential literary or scientific booj? Has he made any significant contribution to literature, philosophy or science? More simple: does your husban even appear on Wikipedia? If your husband is completely unkown, he ain't no genius. So stop being pretentious and saying he was "by all means a good student" jjust because you assume he was a genius when he wasn't. He was an entitled genius-wannabe who misbihaved and only gave headaches to the teachers and his classmates with his immature behavior. Your arrogant genius-wannabe husband is so full of himself that has ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. He behaves poorly = it's the fault of the teachers, never his fault. Ridiculous. What about all the other students that get A+ but also behave well? "Oh they're not genius like my husband". Please. With your comment you're being disrespectful to both the teachers (assuming they should accept as part of their job insults and missbehavior from their genius-wannabe students) and 2) the really good students (insinuating they behave well only because they're supposedly less intelligent than your genius-wannabe husband, who happens to be misunderstood by society due to his supposedly superhuman mental powers). Do you think people will know about your husband's intellectual contributions 500 years from now like they do with Gallleo? If your honest answer is no, stop blaming teachers for not tolerating your husband's insults and lack of manners. In the school there're rules, and they should be followed by everyone. No one deserves a special treatment in virtue of being a genius-wannabe.
Back in secondary school (Realschule) we had to decide between three classes for an ongoing (3 year) elective. French, Biology or IT.
I (a girl) choose IT, like 31 others as well one of whom was also a girl.
Unfortunately, there were only 30 places in the class, so the teacher took me and the other girl off the roster because "They are just girls, they will never understand this stuff"
The same happened on a shorter elective about a year later (the first one we had to take for three years, this second one we had to take for six months).
Lucky for me and may others: The day that "girls don't understand computers" teacher removed all girls from his IT class a new teacher arrived at school and offered something similar.
We all signed up with him.
Turned out: About 20 of the 22 of us were female.
Out of those 20, about 15 had never been allowed to work on a computer at home (I am 35 now. When I went to school households were just starting to get computers and those were mostly the purview of the fathers and sons of the household)
So us five girls who knew the difference between a computer screen and the box below it as well as the two boys were shown the website selfhtml.org, given some webspace and told to make our own site
The rest got a six month 101 on "What is a computer and how do you work with one".
These days I am a computer programmer btw ^^
I tried going to ITT Tech for a couple quarters, I was one of 2 girls in the entire building. I was talked into signing for a loan I did not understand and when it came time for hands on work with computers all the men just shoved me out of the way, refused to answer questions or let me do anything. I finally dropped out because I was not learning anything and being made to feel useless. Now I am stuck with a 17k loan I am unable to pay off.
Hi! What about the history of the PhD? Is it still useful? What does it even really mean and all that jazz,
It means you will be overqualified for most jobs and end up as an uber driver
You sound like an amazing professor. Sometimes, those of us who struggle just need a little empathy and yeah, help with what's going on being the scenes. And among those "good" students--sometimes that perfect straight A kid also has bad stuff going on but uses perfection to keep it all at bay.
Omg. Ii agree so much. I was told in grade 8 I was statistically most likely to be a high school dropout. I am now a high school teacher. I am dyslexic. Bias is so real. And I so sad to see it. In many ways it is the power that parents have or don't have. And the emotional elements are actually the number one thing that will help students. Student number to teachers is important. Students need to be seen or they will be lost.
Wow, I wish everyone could see this. This is a great quick overview of a bunch of research, and had a big emotional hit too. Thank you.
I was a first year teacher at 76 when I hit by a car and my neck was broken. It was the end of my teaching at school but not the end of my concern for the students who have the deck stacked against them. The girl who use to live next door is one I really want to be successful. She is a very good student, a all round good kid and just like my grandchild and knows it. Some girls were giving her trouble at school and I was shocked to hear her mother tell her to hit back. I shouted no don't do it and then explained that she had to go to the teacher and get help or she could be branded a bad child. I still talk to both the mother and daughter because they know I want the best for them. When I tell the daughter that she can go to college sounds right to them because I have a masters. I know she is smart enough and I tell her that. You are so right when you say the bias stops children. I work hard to be a positive influence to all the children I come in contact with. I search out my own biases on a regular bases so I can give my best to every child I come in contact with.
There was exactly one time while in school that I fought back against bullies. I was in 9th grade and I volunteered to help a new student out. He had had a brain stem tumor removed when he was younger and as a result the left side of his body did not always function properly. My job was I carried his backpack and acted as a arm to hold as needed.
One day as we were headed to our special ed class some jerks who were skipping class started throwing rocks at his feet trying to make him fall. I admit, i never fought back when bullies targeted me, but you dont mess with people i care about.
I set him against a nearby pillar, grabbed 2 of the rocks, and nailed each of them in the head. I played softball for years and there was a reason I was always put in the outfield.
We got to the classroom and the teacher instantly asked us what was wrong, you can read me like a book when i am angry. we told him what happened. A few minutes later the teacher got a call, the principal wanted me. The teacher told me to stay put, do my breathing exercises and calm down, and he left to go see the principal.
The bullies got two weeks of detention and nobody messed with my friends after that.
I was lucky to have a good teacher on my side.
I probably would have done the same but this was a case of if she hits you, you hit back. I took this child to a softball party at the coaches house several years before that and it was evident that this woman did not want the children of color there. We left and had our own party at Sonic. While she ate she told me her dream. She wants to go to college and get a good job and have a nice middle-class home with a pool. She has to learn how to act if she wants that. They both know I love them and want the best for them. They have moved so the girl can be in a better environment. There is a college in her new town so it makes it easier to go on to school. We do our best to protect those that need it.
Watching this nearly made me cry, I really wish I'd had this experience through school... I ended up expelled in year 9 and got shit grades in my GCSEs when my predicteds were all As & A*s. Going back to college in September to hopefully go to SOAS for IR and Social Anthropology in due time and this was the motivational content I really needed. Thank you for validating my struggles. :)
As a teacher, this is SO relevant! I make a huge effort not to use generalities like "good" and "bad." I make my students use other words when they're talking. As in "So, define 'good.' What do you mean by that?" It always makes them stop and think.
I was born bi-polar and have had issues my entire life with pretty much everything. In school I was a bully magnet and instead of learning how to socialize, I learned to hide in plain sight. By the time I hit 7th grade I was literally sleeping through most of my classes and passing with a b average. Then I was introduced to another new kid and I learned that due to seizures she couldnt read. The boxed methods failed to work for her. I have always loved to read and i made it my mission to teach her. When the special ed teachers saw i was having success they pulled me out of everything except math and science giving me six hours a day to teach her. By the end of the year she had a second grade reading level.
For me classes were either to hard or to easy as a result I never learned how to study. I was going to have to take my junior year for the third time when I told my parents I was not going back. Instead I went and took all the GED tests minus math without even trying to study and got very high marks in all of it. I took 3 months of classes for math, left the test in tears and got average marks.
I moved onto college where the main thing i learned is why i dont learn in the classroom setting. I am an extremely visual and hands on learner and dont learn anything from lectures. I literally got migraines trying to learn pee-algebra and they said i had to pass college algebra 2. Our current system is broken. We need to teach kids life skills they will actually use instead of junk that is only required for certain jobs most of the kids have never heard of. We need to find out how the kids learn best, group them with others who learn that way and engage them in a way that they will actually learn.
We also need options available for kids like me who were never challenged til it was to late to understand how to handle the challenge.
Most of all teachers need to be paid a hell of a lot more than the poverty wages they currently get and they need to be allowed to discipline students who bully other kids and beak other rules. Teachers have little to no power, get paid so little, yet are expected to raise the next generation. This system is just completely broken.
My teachers used to accuse my mom of doing my homework for me because I would fail class work, but ace my homework. She never did my work for me. It turns out, I have ADHD and there's 22-24 less distractions at my house as opposed to the classroom. I found out about this when I was 9. I was homeschooled until I graduated on time in 2012. I was a bad student grade-wise, but a good student attitude wise and that is what counts.
My education was fraught with bullying and a complete lack of competent school staff. I faced so many barriers when it came to performing well in exams, mainly because my school refused to give me accommodations I deserved. I failed all my exams constantly, year after year, and teachers hated me for it. When I couldn’t come into school because I was ill(I have a chronic illness) it was my fault. Despite this, when I did complete my state examinations(this time with accommodations because it’s a state exam, not a school exam) I excelled. I was one of the best scoring students in my year.
I spent six years being told I didn’t matter, I was a failing student, I was constantly harassed for not dropping down to a lower level class. I walked into my college exams, failing two classes, and I came out as one of the top students in my year. I’m the only one going to one of the best universities in the country.
It’s just because I never gave up. No matter how many people tried to put me down, I said no and took a leap of faith and believed in myself. I have dyslexia as well as a chronic condition, and I refused to let them hold me back.
I didn't get diagnosed with ADHD until 30. School would have been a bit less of a hell if I'd been diagnosed and treated as a child. :/
I appreciate this video, when people talk to me, they say I'm intelligent and insightful, but they never guess that school was hard for me. I was put into special education in the first grade and the system never had any understanding or real help to give to me. I barely graduated high school, and went to trade school after. After only a short time working in my profession, I got critically ill and could no longer work said profession. Three years later, I'm just starting college so I can become a mental health therapist. I again find myself though in an environment I don't seem to fit. Everything is so hard, and I don't understand how their systems are this way when it seems so illogical, so entrenched in practices which don't work...I don't know if I can get through this system...I want to help people within the field of mental health because of my deep passion and connection to it, this doesn't seem to matter though in the eyes of academia.
As a student who was considered smart but with generally mediocre at best grades my teachers and parents spent a lot of time lamenting my laziness and no time trying to help. It wasn’t until a professor at university took an interest in me that I was tested and diagnosed with both dyslexia and dyscalculia, had that been addressed in school before university I would have had a very different experience and probably not hated school.
I started writing a book here about my own experiences, both as a student and (much later) as a STEM tutor. Moving it to a blog.
Bottom line, while there may be cultural and societal disparities affecting students, it all comes down to what happens at school, what tools can be brought to bear inside and outside the classroom. Mental health tools often are the most needed, as a chaotic emotional state (no matter its causes) leaves no room for academics. Fortunately, many of the most effective mental health tools are quite simple to learn and apply. Unfortunately, they remain locked within psychologists' offices, inaccessible to those unable to afford $100+/hour therapy sessions.
Giving better mental health tools to students earlier can help them open their own doors to academic success. I believe these tools can and should be taught before puberty, right along side personal health and physical education.
But it can be the other way around too. I was a "good student". I had good grades, was nice to everyone and got never any problems with teachers. But it was to hide my struggles. And now I'm an adult with really big mental health issues because no one noticed my struggles. I wish I would have struggled more at school.
(But sure I'm biased, I'm a white girl in and from Germany so I am sure I would have gotten help and no detention for failing)
This happens in the U.S. too... if there is a school psychiatrist that person only has time to see the people who are "acting out" and it means, for example, that we have tons of people getting diagnosed as adults with depression, ADHD, etc. that they have had since early years. Other kids might never know that psychiatrist existed and think of themselves as bad people!
I really like that you adressed some solutions at the end! That made me leave the video encouraged instead of discouraged. :)
Dr. Bainbridge, congratulations on your doctorate. I too studied for one of my own, but alas, I did not earn it. Why? Because of another demand of good students: ideological purity. On several occasions -- one in particularly bad one -- I witnessed professors rebuke and ridicules students who didn't know the prevailing theory of the day well enough to satisfy them; colleagues in their own department who proposed something outside the prevailing theory of the day; and colleagues at other colleges and universities who didn't espouse the prevailing theory of the day.
All the while demanding intellectual freedom and freedom of thought for themselves. But not anyone else.
I ended up fleeing because of this behavior.
As I wrote above: ideological purity is another criterion for being a good student.
I was a " good student" who kept failing anything Math related. Junior high and high school saw a lot of F's in Algebra, Geometry, and Chemistry. Barely finished high school- but everything else was OK. Took...a long time to finish my BA, as I bounced around majors trying to find a something with the "easiest" math. (HA!) Years later my state.job was outsourced and privatized. Stumbled my way into.a.grad program in Indiana that led to one in Chicago. Found my "tribe" in Sociology. Now I'm an Adjunct here. I teach the kind of students you talk about. I share.my example with them. Would LOVE to swap stories with yoy
As an only child (half jp) with a single parent (not jp) that never encouraged them, I can honestly say I see the impact of having a terrible support system. It's not fair. I wasn't a bad student just because I didn't like homework. Homework wasn't even a lot of the grades in my school. I was a bad student because that's what my parent decided I was and that was the end of that. I never got help if I was struggling with something, I never got one-on-one time with my instructors even though I went out of my way to actually befriend some of them (they were nice people actually) I was just never good enough. My instructors pitied me but not enough to actually help me get better grades by their standards or to tailor the work to my learning style.
Many years out of secondary school I was finally able to get therapy and the impact all of that had on me is very clear.
I just hope things get better for children now. I wish I could've been born in the future we all want where we're treated like humans and not like infants that need to be coddled or babysat while our parents are at work (that's what school felt like for me. I already knew what I wanted for my life and school gave me nothing toward it). It just...sucks otherwise.
I was great in loving the topics but a teacher pulled me aside and said I'm a great student in projects and etc but tests, not so much. It was the first time I heard of test anxiety. She said I was great in all my work but I seem to have test anxiety. I wish I had the resources and support in school back in elementary school abd high school because most schools only care about the easy excelling kids who just get it as opposed to recognizing the weaknesses in other students that can be tweaked but instead told they are below performing instead of providing focused help to learn the material in a way that works for us. They pass us up in favor of the kids they feel are " harder working" as opposed to " useless" students like I was.
Danielle and The Origin of Everything Team; Thank you so much for making a video on this very important and interesting subject. I hope that it leads to many more installments as there is so much more to explore. I recently listened to (i believe) Radiolab podcast on IQ (G?) and was surprised to learn that in some states (Ca?) its illegal to give IQ tests to children of color! Later when I found out about the biased, racist origins of such test it made sense, but then it made it the perfect tool to segregate kids anyway (imho)! I'm a first generation American of latinx origin, so as a child of immigrants, there's a huge demand on kids doing well (nay, excellent) at school; but it does vary from culture to culture and from family to family how much the parents are willing to demand from the child (specially when they can't readily go to the method of beating your kids for bad grades, for fear of getting reported/arrested, and then there's also the language barrier). All that being said, I advocated (and continue to) for my children to get into the challenge/gifted program. And its interesting to see, in light of many cities considering eliminating these programs altogether; that many feel the the "ethereal" qualities of being "gifted" cannot be learned, only inherited. And I say BULL$HIRT to that! (Maybe this makes me a kinda of tiger mom) but if your kid can learn the whole album to every Disney movie, they can learn all the countries of the world. I'm not particularly interested in my own girls being "good students" as there is a connotation of being submissive, quiet, good, teachers pet, that are more worried about being liked by their superior than having an opinion of their own. Although I will admit that the fact that my children get extra instruction in their own time has led to them being perceived as "good students" and all the other "positive adjectives" that go along with that classification. My main concern, is that my daughters learn that they can conquer/learn ANYTHING no matter what. This is a lesson the Nuclear Navy thought me as a U.S sailor. Once you realize that anything can be learned as long as you break it down in to small bites, the world is yours! i was an effortlessly good student in my elementary school career , to the point that i was skipped 2 years at the start of HS. off course, my EQ was not nearly as developed and i ended up graduating with a solid c average because i preferred to cut school all day and go to the library. It wasn't until I joined the Navy that I learned "how to learn" and the fact that Anyone can Learn Anything. The unfortunate fact is that most girls, most women, don't realize this. So they self limit to careers in child development or health care or food service; which are very worthy endeavors that are not economically recognized for the immense value they provide to society, and are difficult careers if chosen from a place of fear. Additionally, when you factor in that most women do not apply to jobs if they feel they are not 100% qualified, while men apply if they are only 60% there, it highlights the importance of children being in a high achieving path. So, as you can plainly see, I'm very excited to see how you explore this theme further.
I have taken several IQ tests just for fun and I don't feel they are in any way a measure of intelligence. They are basically trivia tests. What I score depends on what whoever made the test thinks is important. For example ones that have questions about pop culture be it current or past, I will score low. But if it has history questions or something else like animal questions I can score up to and over 170. I agree if you can find a way to do it you can learn just about anything. And I have learned getting to know kids and engaging with them is a better way to learn their potential intelligence than a trivia test that gives you a meaningless number for an IQ.
This was wonderful and I hope wasn’t too stressful for you to write. Appreciate your honesty and research :)
I was consider a bad student, couldn’t understand math in any way that led me to fail a year, teachers thought was that i was misbehaving and just not paying attention. Years later at 18 i was diagnosed with dyscalculia and suddenly i had all the answers.
I love this video, and agree with you wholeheartedly. I personally would consider myself to be a good student, even if I came very close to failing some classes. It just sucks that not every teacher, and/or counselor can afford to give the required individualist attention needed to every student. The student/teacher ratio is just to wide.
This is really interesting. I never took in education well, in an era of NO accommodations at all. They actually gave swats for not turning in all of your homework. Or if your teacher was nice, you only had to have no recess - to finish your work that you didn't understand - no gym time, no joy whatsoever at school until your last day of high school when you asked them if you could just grab your diploma in the office , thanks, instead of going to the ceremony, because I'd rather never see a single speck of dust from this school system ever again. However, I think I was an excellent student, because I really wanted to learn this shit, and worked my ass off to get what I did.
Great video! This is a really important problem and I'm excited to watch more from your channel!
This channel deserves more subs.
A good student participates just enough, but not too much. Never cause trouble, gets good grades.
That's a good student.
This is an amazing video! Lots of info.
I think struggle of some sort is necessary to become a problem solving adult. We need to teach young people how to problem solve and overcome.
I really liked this video but one thing that stuck to while mentioning about struggle of black/afro American people.
I wondered why your hairs are as it the way they are? Do you style it or is it natural?
I think you should cover a video over history of hair styles.
For now I'd really appreciate your response over it.
Thanks...
There are lots of videos out there about black hair and hair styles. Curly hair can be very hard to take care of and I think braids can be a way of doing that. But I think it's a pretty personal choice and there's a lot of history behind it. So I'm not really sure this is the best space to ask that question.
@@thebugbear thanks , that does answer my query.
I was considered a good student because my grades was decent and I was fairly unproblematic I used to get in trouble for reading other books in class lol. Was only suspended once for finally fighting my bully after a year of torment and can count my detentions. However I never put in any effort I didn’t push myself academically. I was just naturally smart so if I can pass without studying why study? I graduated with a 3.4 not awful but nothing good. I wish I could go back and actually try. What would have happened
i was a “good student” in a super-competitive high school program; i also have a disability that resulted in a lot of absences so keeping up with makeup work endeared me to my teachers but sometimes led to them basically giving up on me-my APUSH teacher said there was no way I’d pass-and they often belittled the fact that i still prioritized theater, my only social outlet. my grades were moderately high relatively, but I was eager to learn, and if anything answered too many questions, Hermione style. i also realize i was INCREDIBLY lucky, I didnt feel gender bias. we had a lot of girls. some did tend to play dumb, but truthfully we all had to be high performing. all that said, i definitely hit depression in middle school, and the teachers did NOT catch it. one said she wouldn’t recommend me for my high school program, and i did better work in sixth grade. she never considered why. or spoke to me; i overheard a teachers meeting. I also knew I was privileged, our program was a small one but a “low performing” high school and the fact that we had been put there to raise test scores was obvious, and the racial divide was also obvious, thinking about it we had some black boys in our program, but the girls of color were Latina or Middle Eastern. I’m from a medium sized city in the south.
Thank you so much
Such an awesome episode and only 13k views after 4 months!
People don't want to listen.
EXCELLENT!!! But that's almost always the case. THANKS! This is for my granddaughter....
I always do really well on my school work, I always have but I've also always been labeled as the smart kid. I have insanely high standards for myself and with the added on feature of focusing on school over hobbies I now have increadibly low self esteem. I made myself quiet, because I live in s country and a society where people expressing their emotions is seen down apon. I saw the guys who had the same problems as me never stopped being like that. They are both considered bad students, while I'm a good student. I know them both to be incredibly talented but because I made an effort to be a model student I'm considered a great student. I know how many advages I've gotten for being me, like the fact that I'm never questioned when I tell the teachers I'm sick, or that no one stops me from listening to music in class, all those kind of things. Just cuz I'm smart kid.
I also think that the school system needs to require children to learn 2 languages all the way until high school. So many children whose first language isn’t English can get held back or not make friends. I’ve seen how this plays into adult life and people become uncomfortable around them.
Why did I find this channel after you stopped? 😢
I was a "good student" after my dyscalculia and diagnosed I got accommodations and wasn't viewed as lazy anymore.
Holy crap that photo of 2001 Danielle. The woman has not changed a single bit in 20 years!
fantastic video!
How do we deploy the lessons taught and learnt here in mainstream education?
Wow. It’s so bizarre to me that metal detectors & airport-style searches are an everyday occurrence in American schools.
Im extremely quiet and i dont really have friends in school. i do my best and get A’s and people only noticed me when i got good grades. Eventually this loneliness and lack of understanding of people effected my grades..now im struggling.
Being a good student is having a good mindset.
Why do they make school compulsory? When it fails so many students, especially black students.
Are teachers even trained to deal with the emotional needs of the students? Most are just trying to get through their lessons without disruptions and aren’t paid enough to care.
Aren’t their school alternatives?
Hi Danielle, just wanted to let you know that I reviewed your channel, among a few others, in an article for The Typescript Magazine, "Edutainment of the Apocalypse". Basically, good stuff to watch to expand your brain during COVID-19.
And, as an aside, yeah. School? Issues? Definitely me too. I was able to play at being a "good student" in many classes, but in others I just hit the wall at 100 mph.
thetypescript.com/edutainment-of-the-apocalypse/
Love the channel!
Thanks for the review Mark!!!! Stay well :)
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You too, Danielle! Be safe and healthy!
Another great video:)
Some things I’d like to see: where did the acronym LGBT come from?
I was told it means Lesbian Gay Bi Trans, just combining all the groups that evangelicals love to hate that have been among us all along.
Congrats on your PhD. I know that was allot of hard work.
That's meeee
Good student here
this seems like a very good video - but what it makes me think about as a non american - what if you didn't have the racism what then would be these things the challenges etc that impact education
Hi. What did you earn your PhD in? Glad to hear your story.
Why do people dislike FACTS?
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As with most generic terms, it's a pretty meaningless conversation...
Perhaps a more useful term would be "future productive student".
But then we have to decide what we want to produce... So tough!
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What about the rigid and systematic mentality that you are a good student only in the academic section (studying and getting good grades) and barely scratching the surface of people having different types of intelligence? And also the fact that education indoctrinates young people into believing that jobs that are included in the academic spectrum ( doctors, lawyers, business etc..) are real jobs while other jobs such as musicians, artists, performers etc... are not
The racial bias highlighted in this episode is very important, especially how this effects girls of colour.
However, it feels somewhat biased to leave out that young boys are often punished in the classroom for behaviour that is more common in them, like being distracted or not making eye contact while speaking. Disparities in leadership assessment are important, but they're ultimately tangential to whether one is considered a "good student". Studies show that teachers treat students like them in gender and race preferentially, which is a problem when most teachers are white women.
It seems even weirder to ignore the issues that neurodivergent and disabled children face - especially among poc/girls/girls of colour, where ADHD and autism are underdiagnosed, and in poor communities where accessibility is lacking.
Overall, this episode just seems mistitled. This was about the societal problems that you faced, and that's a valid subject for a video, but framing it so generally erases the societal problems that face other students.
PS - I would love a longer episode on the school to prison pipeline.
damnit I just found this channel I started bingeing it but then I find this woke thing its it's well know girls are much more successful in school and college than boys and (I hate the term as its just a reworded version of colored but) students of color do suffer worse from the school to prison pipeline but they also statistically come from more crime ridden neighborhoods (whatever the reason is) we would have to solve that to keep more students out of prison I'll give this video the benefit of the doubt and say it was honestly ment to help students but we have to be completely honest for the sakes of boys and girls of all races
This discussion of gender bias is breaking my heart now that there are NO WOMEN left in the Democratic Presidential Primary.😢💔
African Americans and than people of color.
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as an east asian woman I had to deal with the model minority stereotype. I specifically remember my sixth grade teacher who always went on about how great asian students are and even made this one korean girl stand up to show everyone how thin and pretty she was. it's a common misconception that these are compliments, but there's no such thing as a good stereotype because they're all dehumanizing.
What about typing boys? #sexist
Victim mentality
This channel loves to blame everything on gender or race instead of themselves
And despite the "girls are discriminated against" narrative, they're considerably more likely to go on to college. The gender disparity in college admissions today is double what it was when Title IX was passed; you never hear about it because it's in favor of girls now. And when pressed on it, most feminists will say it's because girls are just better students than boys.
@@willythemailboy2 Yeah, girls make there but we struggle hard due to several issues that could have been solved while we were in lower grades. My struggle with my learning disability and ADD should have been caught faster. My lack of understanding of why I was struggling was hurting my writing abilities. I avoid several amazing opportunities that could have improved my life greatly but I was scared that everyone would find out that I was an idiot. I am not an idiot. I just need help finding technics that could help. If teachers knew what to look for then this would have been solved years ago because my mom and several other members of my family had those issues. And most of the people in my family that had these problems didn't pass high school. Only two did. My mom and I. And I am the only one went to college. There several structural issues created this problem for my family. Stop looking at the success stories and look at all the people that didn't make it.