The thing is, he wouldn’t be able to attack him because RTZ doesn’t reverse an attack, it prevents it from ever having happened in the first place. The only reason they didn’t go with this was because they used the logic of EOH, which isn’t canon.
@@CobbleBompster Canon or not, it's still a reputable source to figure out how GER works, since the game was supervised by the Mangaka and doesn't contradict anything about how the Stand works in the main source. As a means of getting more information about GER's mechanics, it's fair game, otherwise you'd only be going off 5 minutes of screentime and vague descriptions in guidebooks.
@@hownot2junk803to be fair it being 5 minutes doesn’t necessarily make it invalid. The results depend on if you think his anti feats in eyes of heaven are canon I don’t think they since eyes of heaven isn’t canon. However as a fan of both I still agree with death battle if joker replenishes his will power in theory it’ll just get turned to zero again since G.E.R is automatic and since eyes of heaven isn’t canon you can argue G.E.R’s down feat also isn’t but these arguments don’t state G.E.R can beat Joker it only states that Giorno won’t die. So if you don’t consider eyes of heaven canon it’s a draw as if jokers will gets restored ger could just zero it again. But depending on what you consider canon joker has arguments that state he wins. So the two main conclusions are either it’s a complete stalemate since joker never made the decision to use his abilities in the first place. Or Joker just wins if you count eyes of heaven as canon and if those are the only two conclusions I’d count that as a joker win.
@@entity5x4w-official42 Pokemon is literally just you hitting the opponent and them hitting you back for the whole game. You shouldn’t have to wait for the post-campaign fights for the gameplay to get a little deeper.
Crazy thing is Giorno's story takes place over the course of about a week, while Joker's is over a year and then some. So Joker has TONS of experience over Giorno's.
I dont think experience matters when it comes to giorno simply because of the way his abilities work, its just so damn hard to actually land a hit on him. Didnt really matter either cause Joker is literally a perfect counter to him with that one ability.
21:50 For those curious, Soft & Wet: Go Beyond basically fires bubbles... or at least that's what we thought until it was revealed that it fires spinning strings that technically have zero mass, which basically makes it a "fuck physics" gun.
By the way, the storyboards confirm that real-world Giorno had his mental shutdown from his metaverse death negated by GER, making him the first character to entirely survive his battle with no extra stipulation.
No wait, if Giorno's Treasure is the Stand Arrow, it means Joker stole Gold Experience? Cause Gold Experience is a stand. And Stand is manifestation life energy. In metaverse, if you stole a treasure it makes the owner lost its will to live. So did he just stole Gold Experience?
@@thisisanickname231 Why ? Asura litterary killed the Creator of The Multiverse...... The Guy wanted to Give Asura his own Universe, Just soo They can have a Truce...... And Asura Responded by Punching the Guy in the Face......
Im so hyped for the next time being Bowser vs Eggman. Its a close battle that can go either way anf theyre giving them everything. Even if it was a power up that bowser used once and never again or a robot or device eggman made and only used once and never again, its an all out army battle with everything they used and have
20:46 let’s add to this analogy real quick. So, yeah, it’s true that you could drink the water again after a refill. But you still need to go through the action of drinking the water in the first place, just like how GER would need to touch Joker again in order to reduce his willpower to 0 for a second time. If the glass of water is kept away from you and the straw, you’re not capable of drinking it again because it’s out of range, and as a result, you can’t slurp that shit up a second time.
22:36 yeah you guessed that right lol this Death Battle is actually pretty controversial despite the damn near universal agreement from most powerscalers concluding that Joker wins due to how much of a crashout Jojo fans generally are ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ they were NOT having it on Twitter man they were mad as hell out there
@ultr2961 Eyes of heaven buffed giorno. By scaling him to made in heaven. It was supervised by araki and it wasn't even their main argument. Jojo fans are cherry picking merchants
21:46 If you think that stand's _name_ is weird, you're not ready for just how utterly nonsensical its ability actually is, in a nutshell it allows the user to fire one-dimensional infinitely-spinning bubbles that literally don't exist and utterly annihilate whatever they touch (as for how the hell a *one-dimensional* object could possibly *spin* or how the fuck something that *doesn't exist* could possibly touch someone, your guess is as good as mine).
The matchup was one of the most requested for a while it was debatable until it was annouced everybody said joker the persona fandom thought joker was gonna lose
Read this for more info. The two big things that _might_ be controversial, specifically about Giorno, is his power/speed scaling, and the "will turns to zero" part of Requiem. The first part is a moot point due to a majority of Stands not having that kind of power at all. The absolute benefit of the doubt feat is when GE Requiem is proven capable of countering Made in Heaven's time acceleration, which affects the entire universe. The problem here is whether or not this is power or just range (further complicated with GE Requiem having the Stand Stats of "None" all around), though even if it _was_ considered power, Joker _still_ beats him due to already beating other universe busters. All it would do is close the gap most of the way. The "will turns to zero" part of Requiem is countered by Joker's own will-based feats. Sure, the theory you posed for the first, admittedly questionable feat, where Joker's Social Links return his will, would make sense for Giorno to still beat. However, it's further clarified that other Wild Card types like Joker (such as Yu from Persona 4) are capable of essentially having an undying will to begin with. Conclusion: At best, Joker has no issues with power, and outright nullifies the will manipulation. At worst, Joker's power advantage lessens, but is still a bit greater, and the will part of Requiem is rendered moot when Diavolo himself was still able to _attempt_ attacks. Even if he was only capable of attacking for a brief moment, that moment would be all he needs when he has the extreme speed advantage, which gets put back in play when resisting the will manipulation.
I still think Giorno wins because dead battle is either satire, ragebait, or their just the dumbass power scalers or glazers for characters, omni man vs bardock, bardock wins but deal battle said no and made omniman win, also his zero ability negates anything and everything, if this vid was true power scaling Giorno at the end would just appear behind joked and kill him in an instant (this is all my opinion of course)
@vlonejsvibez8496 I feel is more likely death battle tries to high ball it's fighters, in the modern era, with Omni man's victory being from that. It was dumb scaling but sometimes dumb scaling will come up in any verses debate.
@@Draxeojojo Girono glazer spotted get it out ya mouth and the fact you said they’re yapping means you prob never player persona,learned it’s cosmology,or lore and you didn’t even read this comment
17:05 (if someone hasn’t already said it) his name actually is meant to symbolize his “Wild Card” abilities, having been given by one of the first two members of the Phantom Thieves as he is not only their strongest person but also extremely versatile, much like the Joker Card in any deck.
This is honestly one of the only DB I think shouldn't be controversial. We been knowing that the ONLY thing that can overpower G.E.R is rewriting reality
Just a disclaimer. A lot of people consider the Persona 5 Anime rather… mid. I don’t even think it goes through the whole game but I could be wrong (although Xander Mobus, the official voice actor for Joker does have a lot of fun in it since he isn’t just voicing a silent protagonist lol)
Its controversial only for the jojo community. For context when the matchup was revealed power scaler voted who thought would win and joker won 11 to 1 votes.
Alice is a recurring demon/persona from the Shin Megami Tensai franchise. She's either a hidden boss, special summon, or ultimate persona, depending on what game you're playing.
If it helps, think of Requiem reducing Joker’s willpower as targeting him, not the people in the social links. Also, can you react to Skyrim vs Dark Souls?
Something not really mentioned is that Joker has the ability Unshaken Will, which just straight up grants him immunity from having his willpower drained
In my understanding the with will power thing is just because you will power is on zero dons't mean it can't be recovered back (at list it was my interpration)
Okay so I have a legitimate question what if giorno makes a wooden suit of armor because what is technically alive when that just makes him an impervious suit of armor that reflects all damage back to the opponent?
Satanael bypasses concepts. Yaldobaoth is an actual God based on real mythology and Satanael is his opposite in every way. Yaldobaoth has all of GER's power on crack, and Satanael just blocked it, stole it for Joker, and one shot him in the face. Yaldobaoth is the final boss of P5. An average fight takes hours.
17:13 Morgana (the cat that acts as Joker's mentor and the Guide to the Trickster) chose the codename Joker for Ren as his ability to use multiple personas, made him a "wild card" (hehehe bad pun) which iirc the joker typically is in a standard deck of cards. It wasnt chosen for edginess sake, though ripping off faces and slitting the throats of shadows in his all out attack finisher dosen't help him much there lol.
okay for your analogy of drinking water think of it like this yes, he can empty the cup, however the cup is placed inside of an ocean that is constantly filling it back up so regardless of how many times GER uses RTZ Joker's willpower is still gonna max itself out instantly
An ocean is still finite, zero is still zero and remains zero. It doesn’t make sense to argue someone has infinite willpower because that isn’t something quantifiable unlike zero.
@@homeslicebread8443Except his will is unshakeable, as in GER cant even place the straw in the cup. In P5T the exact same thing is shown happening, someone with the power to set your will to zero is unable to effect Joker.
@@dhans9662 Really? You’re not only going to assume I haven’t played Tactica (it came with gamepass, i’m an Xbox player). You also believe you’re entitled to me explaining your own point to you??
21:48 I know “Soft and wet Go beyond” is such a goofy name But that ability is capable of literally existing outside of reality. It erased the literal embodiment of logic itself Lowkey they should’ve had him in this matchup 😭
If S&W landed a hit it would definitely kill Joker, but Joker having an attack that crosses several lightyears in less than a second means that he would easily outspeed Josuke and nuke him.
Another W hoody reaction🙏🏾 Also If you wanna check out the persona series the only persona anime’s you should watch, are the persona 3 movies and persona 4 the animation cause they’re good. Persona 5’s anime isn’t a good representation of the game, if you wanna check out p5 just play p5 royal😭🙏🏾.
A bit confused. They said that requiem prevented death in an infinite loop. So, Why did bro die and get the chance to use his reboot card when he never should have 'died'?
Metaverse self dead which would lead the real world self to but GER said no so actually no one died it was a straight tie just with joker doing his goal in the end
For me, knowing where they are going to fight is a must. Because the place will determine how their powers works. And... base on how this is shown, they fought inside the metaverse. And in metaverse, perception is reality. If they fought jn reality, everything goes how they do everything. But in metaverse if you perceive your opponent as a stand user, He is a stand user. If you perceive your opponent as a Persona, He will become a Persona. So in the metaverse, they are swap. So how about the "Return to Zero". This will never work right in the metaverse. Imagine, going to Giorno's metaverse can also be called an attack. Which returns it to start. But it can't because the perception is reality. What would it look like, you are two character inside a game. And one can undo the whole console. But it can't because that guy is also drawn inside by the console. He can kill the other character, but he can't undo all of his actions. Just like your example, If you drink the water but he undo it. Yeah it works but if you are both inside metaverse, if you drink the water and you perceive drinking the water, GER can't undo it because you also perceive that you are drinking it. There is no written about GER that he can defy the rules of the metaverse. Also in deathbattle, they are not allowed to do what I call "Villains Monologue"(Where you explain what are you doing to your opponent). So both must think of a strategy as what they see and perceive in the fight. So Giorno's creativity is limited. I like them both, but this fight is like the speedsters time traveling battle but inside the room or box. Also even if there's things canon or not. Invaders already win if they manage to get inside the castle.
20:39 THANK YOU. Not only that but his social links even count as outside help for the battle 😭 plus they used a noncanon game to make him win. They really broke like three rules to make Joker win
Imagine not understanding a damn thing about how any of this works. Social Links ARENT OUTSIDE HELP. They are a part of Jokers own soul. This is explicitly stated several times in the series. If it was outside help then dead Social Links like Akinari and Shinjiro from P3 wouldn't work after they die. But they do work because Social Links are an enhancement of Jokers soul. Just because you can't read doesn't mean DB broke a rule. Social Links also make the will of the Wild Card unshakeable. That's why his willpower brought him back from being erased in reality, kept Yu alive despite being hit with several back-to-back attacks from a God, and thats why Makoto was able to defeat the personification of Death. Eyes of Heaven was a supporting argument, not the main. Maruki, Yaldabaoth, and the Omnipotent Orb was the main argument. They added the EOH part because Giornos only feat was reversing a Uni+ power, which Joker easily surpasses. Learn to read.
@@strikingsarcophagus You care so little that I've seen your ass in multiple reaction videos on this exact DB fight. But yeah, you dont care do you? That's why you responded so quickly, to show how much you don't care. No, you're just an illiterate buffoon that got defensive on being called out.
Bro doesn't know that there is a plot point where he purposefully got caught to catch the traitor character, lol. How to tell if someone didn't play P5, they don't like killing humans in the Phantom Thieves
Now here is the thing they used that Giorno GER could well be deactivated and used Dio over heaven as an example now Dio over heaven is from a non canon game so idk how they thinked there
20:40 as far as I see, I think the energy from Almighty woild prevent GER from negating it in the first place. After all, it's not a power only Sataneal has. I don't expect everyone 2 know, but Joker has more than one persona with almighty energy. In fact, there's a shit ton of them. Essentially, one Almighty energy is brought out, GER would be negated. Or in your case, the straw would suck nothing. It just sucks in nothing
@dhans9662 situational, but there's technically no reason that shouldn't work. Honestly, the fight suddenly feels less even when I consider the skill cards.
@dhans9662 oh I know. But I'm saying that since it IS possible to level up Arsene to be a strong one or even just give him Megidoloan at whatever lol, he could real probably win like that
Nothing death battle can tell me will every and i mean EVER convince me giorno losing to joker when giorno can already beat goku they had clearly forgotten to add the death loop😐😑
The power of saying no to any attack vs the power of piecing through any defense. This will not be controversial at all.
The thing is, he wouldn’t be able to attack him because RTZ doesn’t reverse an attack, it prevents it from ever having happened in the first place. The only reason they didn’t go with this was because they used the logic of EOH, which isn’t canon.
@@CobbleBompster Canon or not, it's still a reputable source to figure out how GER works, since the game was supervised by the Mangaka and doesn't contradict anything about how the Stand works in the main source. As a means of getting more information about GER's mechanics, it's fair game, otherwise you'd only be going off 5 minutes of screentime and vague descriptions in guidebooks.
@@hownot2junk803 yeah, I was thinking that, Jojo fans are just way too pationate about how powerful their character are or smth
@@hownot2junk803to be fair it being 5 minutes doesn’t necessarily make it invalid. The results depend on if you think his anti feats in eyes of heaven are canon I don’t think they since eyes of heaven isn’t canon.
However as a fan of both I still agree with death battle if joker replenishes his will power in theory it’ll just get turned to zero again since G.E.R is automatic and since eyes of heaven isn’t canon you can argue G.E.R’s down feat also isn’t but these arguments don’t state G.E.R can beat Joker it only states that Giorno won’t die.
So if you don’t consider eyes of heaven canon it’s a draw as if jokers will gets restored ger could just zero it again.
But depending on what you consider canon joker has arguments that state he wins.
So the two main conclusions are either it’s a complete stalemate since joker never made the decision to use his abilities in the first place.
Or Joker just wins if you count eyes of heaven as canon and if those are the only two conclusions I’d count that as a joker win.
@@CobbleBompster i would agree, if gods joker has fought didn't have the same ability and he actually overrcame them with his own "nuh uh i hit"
5:50 do NOT watch the anime, it's notoriously poorly animated and doesn't represent why people like Persona 5 well at all.
Is the game good? Because I don’t find games like Pokémon to be entertaining.
@@RappaVado It’s very good, has some annoying anime tropes occasionally but the combat and mechanics are WAY deeper than Pokemon
@@RappaVado pokemon isn't exactly big on gameplay/graphics, anyway, so don't base anything anime-game related on pokemon, lol.
@@gavo7911it is not deeper than pokemon
@@entity5x4w-official42 Pokemon is literally just you hitting the opponent and them hitting you back for the whole game. You shouldn’t have to wait for the post-campaign fights for the gameplay to get a little deeper.
18:52 you need to explain yourself hoodydude grown ass man moaning like he is in the prison bathroom
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hyped
@@hoody_ytbro siad he was hyped you sure husokamdidnt possess you?
PAUSE
Nah ur ass would too if you saw this irl
Crazy thing is Giorno's story takes place over the course of about a week, while Joker's is over a year and then some. So Joker has TONS of experience over Giorno's.
I dont think experience matters when it comes to giorno simply because of the way his abilities work, its just so damn hard to actually land a hit on him. Didnt really matter either cause Joker is literally a perfect counter to him with that one ability.
Experience doesn't matter. GER works independently to the user anyways
ger is like a body gaurd girono is just there
@@saucymongoose7246 That’s not even including spinoffs like strikers. Which adds several more weeks to his experience.
How long is a week in jojo like wtf?
21:50 For those curious, Soft & Wet: Go Beyond basically fires bubbles... or at least that's what we thought until it was revealed that it fires spinning strings that technically have zero mass, which basically makes it a "fuck physics" gun.
it's basically a miniature hollow purple gun
It also doesn't exist so enjoy that its 1 dimensional lines as a bubble so it can't be recognised as existing so it's basically a guaranteed kill
Bro finally watched til the end I'm so proud
By the way, the storyboards confirm that real-world Giorno had his mental shutdown from his metaverse death negated by GER, making him the first character to entirely survive his battle with no extra stipulation.
oh phew
@RedLordOfAlagadda
wasnt that down by the storyboards for fun though?
Ay man the closest canon ending we got@@chongwillson972
You don't die in metaverse, Giorno's beliefs is changed instead.
No wait, if Giorno's Treasure is the Stand Arrow, it means Joker stole Gold Experience? Cause Gold Experience is a stand. And Stand is manifestation life energy. In metaverse, if you stole a treasure it makes the owner lost its will to live. So did he just stole Gold Experience?
"Is Bowser vs Eggman a controversial death battle?"
Asura vs Kratos:
Fr
I am a *HUGE* GOD OF WAR FAN....
And even I know Kratos is Dying.....
@@darkstar_xd General consensus I've seen is that Asura fucking dies.
@@thisisanickname231 Why ? Asura litterary killed the Creator of The Multiverse......
The Guy wanted to Give Asura his own Universe, Just soo They can have a Truce......
And Asura Responded by Punching the Guy in the Face......
@@darkstar_xd
Greek Scaling is no fucking joke, if Heracles vs Sun Wu Kong taught me anything 💀
20:30 wildcards has a ability to never have their willpower be reduced to 0, which joker is
phantom thiefs: you will never see it cominng
also phantom thiefs: hello, heres a letter saying that we are coming for your soul :D
I mean, that's what a Phantom Thief does. 'Here's the calling card saying we're going to steal from you. Have fun NOT being able to stop us!'
Im so hyped for the next time being Bowser vs Eggman. Its a close battle that can go either way anf theyre giving them everything. Even if it was a power up that bowser used once and never again or a robot or device eggman made and only used once and never again, its an all out army battle with everything they used and have
FINNALY! I’ve been waiting for this daddy
ayo
Pause
What?
Bruh....
Pause
20:46 let’s add to this analogy real quick. So, yeah, it’s true that you could drink the water again after a refill. But you still need to go through the action of drinking the water in the first place, just like how GER would need to touch Joker again in order to reduce his willpower to 0 for a second time. If the glass of water is kept away from you and the straw, you’re not capable of drinking it again because it’s out of range, and as a result, you can’t slurp that shit up a second time.
22:36 yeah you guessed that right lol this Death Battle is actually pretty controversial despite the damn near universal agreement from most powerscalers concluding that Joker wins due to how much of a crashout Jojo fans generally are ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ they were NOT having it on Twitter man they were mad as hell out there
Twitter and tiktok
I'm about to crash out
Bro the way they scaled Giorno was bullshit what do you mean??
@ultr2961 Eyes of heaven buffed giorno. By scaling him to made in heaven. It was supervised by araki and it wasn't even their main argument. Jojo fans are cherry picking merchants
@Warking19 it actually nerfs him and it's not canon no matter what you say it's not required for his scaling they did that to nerf him.
21:46 If you think that stand's _name_ is weird, you're not ready for just how utterly nonsensical its ability actually is, in a nutshell it allows the user to fire one-dimensional infinitely-spinning bubbles that literally don't exist and utterly annihilate whatever they touch (as for how the hell a *one-dimensional* object could possibly *spin* or how the fuck something that *doesn't exist* could possibly touch someone, your guess is as good as mine).
The matchup was one of the most requested for a while it was debatable until it was annouced everybody said joker the persona fandom thought joker was gonna lose
Read this for more info.
The two big things that _might_ be controversial, specifically about Giorno, is his power/speed scaling, and the "will turns to zero" part of Requiem.
The first part is a moot point due to a majority of Stands not having that kind of power at all. The absolute benefit of the doubt feat is when GE Requiem is proven capable of countering Made in Heaven's time acceleration, which affects the entire universe. The problem here is whether or not this is power or just range (further complicated with GE Requiem having the Stand Stats of "None" all around), though even if it _was_ considered power, Joker _still_ beats him due to already beating other universe busters. All it would do is close the gap most of the way.
The "will turns to zero" part of Requiem is countered by Joker's own will-based feats. Sure, the theory you posed for the first, admittedly questionable feat, where Joker's Social Links return his will, would make sense for Giorno to still beat. However, it's further clarified that other Wild Card types like Joker (such as Yu from Persona 4) are capable of essentially having an undying will to begin with.
Conclusion: At best, Joker has no issues with power, and outright nullifies the will manipulation. At worst, Joker's power advantage lessens, but is still a bit greater, and the will part of Requiem is rendered moot when Diavolo himself was still able to _attempt_ attacks. Even if he was only capable of attacking for a brief moment, that moment would be all he needs when he has the extreme speed advantage, which gets put back in play when resisting the will manipulation.
I still think Giorno wins because dead battle is either satire, ragebait, or their just the dumbass power scalers or glazers for characters, omni man vs bardock, bardock wins but deal battle said no and made omniman win, also his zero ability negates anything and everything, if this vid was true power scaling Giorno at the end would just appear behind joked and kill him in an instant (this is all my opinion of course)
@vlonejsvibez8496 I feel is more likely death battle tries to high ball it's fighters, in the modern era, with Omni man's victory being from that. It was dumb scaling but sometimes dumb scaling will come up in any verses debate.
Whole lot of yap giorno solos
@@vlonejsvibez8496you were right about everything except for saying you think he wins
@@Draxeojojo Girono glazer spotted get it out ya mouth and the fact you said they’re yapping means you prob never player persona,learned it’s cosmology,or lore and you didn’t even read this comment
16:06 this isnt return to 0, its the thing that makes his mind go faster than his body
Don’t watch the persona anime, just play the game
17:05 (if someone hasn’t already said it) his name actually is meant to symbolize his “Wild Card” abilities, having been given by one of the first two members of the Phantom Thieves as he is not only their strongest person but also extremely versatile, much like the Joker Card in any deck.
Oil up already
that's what diddy said
Hoodydude with baby oil 🤤
Ong
Fr
We don't got hoodydude, we just got freakydude
This is honestly one of the only DB I think shouldn't be controversial. We been knowing that the ONLY thing that can overpower G.E.R is rewriting reality
The response is pretty tame tbh.
Everyone thought the response would be far worse lol
GER: It's over, i can nullify your attack
Joker: Nuh uh
**TF YOU MEAN NUH UH**
Just a disclaimer. A lot of people consider the Persona 5 Anime rather… mid. I don’t even think it goes through the whole game but I could be wrong (although Xander Mobus, the official voice actor for Joker does have a lot of fun in it since he isn’t just voicing a silent protagonist lol)
Its controversial only for the jojo community.
For context when the matchup was revealed power scaler voted who thought would win and joker won 11 to 1 votes.
The intro is wild😭
You should watch the Galactus vs Unicron death battle, it’s good
hopefully he can understand what they are saying or not
In your analogy, Joker's social links is a faucet that refills your glass as your drinking it.
And so Hoody continues into his journey into DeathBattle.
6:03 I would recommend the game over the anime, it’s better in my opinion.
Alice is a recurring demon/persona from the Shin Megami Tensai franchise. She's either a hidden boss, special summon, or ultimate persona, depending on what game you're playing.
5:00 "WHAT THE FU-" GOT ME FRFRFRFR
Boomstick and Jizz.. I love your humor man.
His silence is deafening when teacher was mentioned
"mostly fiction" is crazy
Gold experience requiem's abulity is just: "Nuh uh"
Joker: “I WILL BEAT YOU WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP…
*…and this Magnum Research BFR Long Cylinder Series”*
Hoody never fails to impregnate me❤
Real
AYOOO!!!!
The pauses at questionable things being shown and said is absolutely hilarious especially with the sudden cut's
the "They'll never see it coming" line is a reference to the main battle theme for the Phantom Thieves in Persona 5 :D
When it comes to these two characters no one now the limit of their power
I agree joker wins just not the way he won in this battle
I don't
@@error-4269Because you never finished P5. Satanael is Arsene's evolved form and basically the Alien X of all of Joker's Personas on steroids.
Soft and wet can beat joker tho@@highlandave8507
This episode is a such banger
AAAAAAAUURGHHH LET'S GOOOOOOO I was waiting for this one man I'm happy asl that you enjoyed that shit
Do Rick vs The Doctor next fr
Funny thing they nerfed joker bro did not use one reflext physical
Jokers the wild card in poker
6:36 bro got stunlocked 😂
If it helps, think of Requiem reducing Joker’s willpower as targeting him, not the people in the social links. Also, can you react to Skyrim vs Dark Souls?
My bad hoody dude I’m trying to keep up with you’re vids
Something not really mentioned is that Joker has the ability Unshaken Will, which just straight up grants him immunity from having his willpower drained
It is brought up in the analysis, but only on text.
Ngl when I first saw this I knew joker was gonna win because of the power of friendship but I stuck around just to see my goat get washed.😔
It's alright hoody we both got the L on this one : (
By my pfp, yall already know we smoking that Giorno pack, send it up if you bad 🗣️
In my understanding the with will power thing is just because you will power is on zero dons't mean it can't be recovered back (at list it was my interpration)
Getting someone pregnant with someone else's body and then ditching the baby momma is devious 😭
I was hard sold that giorno would win but that reality warping thing that joker has would beat it
Jojo fans take a loss unfortunately:(
Okay so I have a legitimate question what if giorno makes a wooden suit of armor because what is technically alive when that just makes him an impervious suit of armor that reflects all damage back to the opponent?
Satanael bypasses concepts. Yaldobaoth is an actual God based on real mythology and Satanael is his opposite in every way. Yaldobaoth has all of GER's power on crack, and Satanael just blocked it, stole it for Joker, and one shot him in the face. Yaldobaoth is the final boss of P5. An average fight takes hours.
I mean seperate of the fight in actual Jojo's @@highlandave8507
You see that's funny because *almighty can't be reflected.* Makarakarn is a skill that has the exact powers of GE and it still doesn't work.
Bro is watching everything BUT animation vs minecraft😭🙏
Dude he watched some on a stream I think
Also he's been reacting to db for a while
lemme see what im working with pookie bear
17:13 Morgana (the cat that acts as Joker's mentor and the Guide to the Trickster) chose the codename Joker for Ren as his ability to use multiple personas, made him a "wild card" (hehehe bad pun) which iirc the joker typically is in a standard deck of cards.
It wasnt chosen for edginess sake, though ripping off faces and slitting the throats of shadows in his all out attack finisher dosen't help him much there lol.
If you thought that pose is zesty then you don’t know Jojo 😭😭
okay for your analogy of drinking water think of it like this
yes, he can empty the cup, however the cup is placed inside of an ocean that is constantly filling it back up so regardless of how many times GER uses RTZ Joker's willpower is still gonna max itself out instantly
An ocean is still finite, zero is still zero and remains zero. It doesn’t make sense to argue someone has infinite willpower because that isn’t something quantifiable unlike zero.
@@homeslicebread8443Except his will is unshakeable, as in GER cant even place the straw in the cup. In P5T the exact same thing is shown happening, someone with the power to set your will to zero is unable to effect Joker.
@@dhans9662 Not in the same way GER does
@@homeslicebread8443 Really? You haven't played the game and you're going to make an excuse like that? Explain the difference.
@@dhans9662 Really? You’re not only going to assume I haven’t played Tactica (it came with gamepass, i’m an Xbox player). You also believe you’re entitled to me explaining your own point to you??
You might as well be 6 feet to me my short ah 5'6"
12:31 This man went nuts here😂
The persona 5 anime is pretty mid. A persona related anime that is worth watching is the original persona 4 anime. That one's gold.
I’m excited for the next one Eggman vs Bowser it’s another army battle finally
5:00 what😭🙏
This bout to make ma mad i swearthanks for the banger of a reaction anyway GET READY disturbing the peace HOODY DOOD PLS WATCH THE ANIME ITS GOOOOOOOD
they cooked so hard with this😭🙏
This hasnt been out for 5 minutes and I see 3 sus af comments
YES HE WATCHED IT!
21:48 I know “Soft and wet Go beyond” is such a goofy name
But that ability is capable of literally existing outside of reality.
It erased the literal embodiment of logic itself
Lowkey they should’ve had him in this matchup 😭
If S&W landed a hit it would definitely kill Joker, but Joker having an attack that crosses several lightyears in less than a second means that he would easily outspeed Josuke and nuke him.
Another W hoody reaction🙏🏾
Also If you wanna check out the persona series the only persona anime’s you should watch, are the persona 3 movies and persona 4 the animation cause they’re good.
Persona 5’s anime isn’t a good representation of the game, if you wanna check out p5 just play p5 royal😭🙏🏾.
A bit confused. They said that requiem prevented death in an infinite loop. So, Why did bro die and get the chance to use his reboot card when he never should have 'died'?
Metaverse self dead which would lead the real world self to but GER said no so actually no one died it was a straight tie just with joker doing his goal in the end
Because Joker can survive getting erased from reality.
For me, knowing where they are going to fight is a must. Because the place will determine how their powers works. And... base on how this is shown, they fought inside the metaverse. And in metaverse, perception is reality.
If they fought jn reality, everything goes how they do everything. But in metaverse if you perceive your opponent as a stand user, He is a stand user. If you perceive your opponent as a Persona, He will become a Persona. So in the metaverse, they are swap.
So how about the "Return to Zero". This will never work right in the metaverse. Imagine, going to Giorno's metaverse can also be called an attack. Which returns it to start. But it can't because the perception is reality.
What would it look like, you are two character inside a game. And one can undo the whole console. But it can't because that guy is also drawn inside by the console. He can kill the other character, but he can't undo all of his actions.
Just like your example, If you drink the water but he undo it. Yeah it works but if you are both inside metaverse, if you drink the water and you perceive drinking the water, GER can't undo it because you also perceive that you are drinking it. There is no written about GER that he can defy the rules of the metaverse. Also in deathbattle, they are not allowed to do what I call "Villains Monologue"(Where you explain what are you doing to your opponent). So both must think of a strategy as what they see and perceive in the fight. So Giorno's creativity is limited.
I like them both, but this fight is like the speedsters time traveling battle but inside the room or box. Also even if there's things canon or not. Invaders already win if they manage to get inside the castle.
Play the game you won't regret it brother
Stylish duel of devil brothers by safesaves needs to get more love fr
WHY DIDN'T HE PUT ONE OF THE BULLET BEES IN FRONT OF THE BIG BULLET
Umm well they already used themselves up
Because Almighty can't be reflected, so the bees were useless.
Day 2 Hoodydude since you watched reverse flash versus Goku black, you should watch flash versus Quicksilver death battle 🎉
What about the inf death loop
Death loop requires the victim to be in a constant state of zero willpower. Joker can't have his will shaken so it doesn't work.
Death battle is making me really angry
YO!! IM GLAD YOU GOT MY MESSAGE BRO!
20:39 THANK YOU. Not only that but his social links even count as outside help for the battle 😭 plus they used a noncanon game to make him win. They really broke like three rules to make Joker win
Imagine not understanding a damn thing about how any of this works. Social Links ARENT OUTSIDE HELP. They are a part of Jokers own soul. This is explicitly stated several times in the series. If it was outside help then dead Social Links like Akinari and Shinjiro from P3 wouldn't work after they die. But they do work because Social Links are an enhancement of Jokers soul. Just because you can't read doesn't mean DB broke a rule. Social Links also make the will of the Wild Card unshakeable. That's why his willpower brought him back from being erased in reality, kept Yu alive despite being hit with several back-to-back attacks from a God, and thats why Makoto was able to defeat the personification of Death.
Eyes of Heaven was a supporting argument, not the main. Maruki, Yaldabaoth, and the Omnipotent Orb was the main argument. They added the EOH part because Giornos only feat was reversing a Uni+ power, which Joker easily surpasses.
Learn to read.
@dhans9662 Imma be so fr. I do not care. Take the Persona fanboying somewhere else
@@strikingsarcophagus You care so little that I've seen your ass in multiple reaction videos on this exact DB fight. But yeah, you dont care do you? That's why you responded so quickly, to show how much you don't care.
No, you're just an illiterate buffoon that got defensive on being called out.
Yo @Hoodydude when is the SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS: Dark Beginnings episode 2 and 3 reactions coming? You need to see the peakness of it onb!💯
People can not be talking about how the teenager that got caught by the police is Giorno level 😭😭
Bro doesn't know that there is a plot point where he purposefully got caught to catch the traitor character, lol. How to tell if someone didn't play P5, they don't like killing humans in the Phantom Thieves
Holy fuck gang I just beat the first palace chill tf out
@@GojcdgjigsdbfrdYou wanna sound stupid, so you're gonna be talked to like you're stupid
W vid goat
20:40 agreed it’s either hit or miss with these guys
watch throat notes PLS BRO 🙏 🤲
Now here is the thing they used that Giorno GER could well be deactivated and used Dio over heaven as an example now Dio over heaven is from a non canon game so idk how they thinked there
Just put the Minecraft vs animation in the bag bro God damn 😭
I've been waiting for the words he said at 13:48 since the beginning of the video.
Power of friendship win!!!
The P5 anime is kind of ehh, to the point it didn't get a sequel of the extension of the game, Royal. The game is so much better
Are u gettin paid on yt?
Also 17:02 Minecraft witch ahhh laugh
13:50 whats he mean ONLY?
AND A SCREAMING GUY IN A SUV GUESSES THE WINNER
This is actually the best fucking moment to ever say 10:34
20:40 as far as I see, I think the energy from Almighty woild prevent GER from negating it in the first place. After all, it's not a power only Sataneal has. I don't expect everyone 2 know, but Joker has more than one persona with almighty energy. In fact, there's a shit ton of them. Essentially, one Almighty energy is brought out, GER would be negated. Or in your case, the straw would suck nothing. It just sucks in nothing
Arsene casts Megidolaon and giorno explodes
@dhans9662 situational, but there's technically no reason that shouldn't work. Honestly, the fight suddenly feels less even when I consider the skill cards.
@@bigsmyles1008 Nah I'm only saying it would be super disrespectful if Joker used his weakest persona to stomp Giorno
@dhans9662 oh I know. But I'm saying that since it IS possible to level up Arsene to be a strong one or even just give him Megidoloan at whatever lol, he could real probably win like that
Rick vs Doctor reaction I beg
Nothing death battle can tell me will every and i mean EVER convince me giorno losing to joker when giorno can already beat goku they had clearly forgotten to add the death loop😐😑