Elon - "My dogwhistles were so vague that they count as plausible deniability so now I'm going to use DARVO because people don' t recognize it. And since you're attempting to report in good faith, you won't be expecting me to play the victim in front of the whole world." decoded it for ya
Exactly. You going to work for an institution that's spreads misinformation and have the balls to question Musk about misinformation. Dude got rightfully put in his place.
Not only that, but any person who is given such an awesome power is bound to start abusing the power by expanding the definition of hate speech to include anything he doesn't like.
It seems to be recently it's the leftist loonies with their dodgy hair that decide what hateful speech is with their cancel culture. In their minds everything is hateful so everything has to be cancelled apart from extreme stuff like cutting off your bits and identify as inanimate objects and everything but a man or a woman
Nobody should be able to dictate the words people can say and cannot say, ever. There is no way to apply a rule that applies to everyones moral principles.
I'm no Elon fan boy but I must admit it was SOOO funny to watch him gradually back that BBC guy into a corner the watch him flounder helplessly. The way he demolished him just by asking for some facts and not letting the journo wriggle out of not giving any was poetry in motion! 😄👌
See it's not a grudge, but do u think you look cool saying u no fan boy of elon, like making him seem anyway less than you, or you are in position to not be a fan boy or anything? Elon musk is literally the most aspirational, intelligent man, note it he is gonna do things which are unimaginable to us.
@@infofreaks527 Didn't even consider whether anyone would think I "look cool" or not. Was just stating my position. Because there's more than enough people online who deify him and suck up to everything he says and does, as you very helpfully just demonstrated. I just wanted to make it clear I am not one of THOSE people, but that l enjoyed and respect the way he won that argument anyway.
The reporter did not expose any agenda. He was frustrated with having to talk to a complete idiot who has an ego so big he actually thinks he's a self-made man when in fact he got all his money friend Daddy's ill-gotten gains.
Ooooh we need to hear more of this "quote" being said. It's a choice. We have personal choices that matter, and thankfully, we are free to make them. Personally, I won't be controlled and manipulated into being miserable. Nope.
Here in the UK 🇬🇧 the BBC is an organisation that holds us to ransom for watching the television. We have to pay £159 a year for a TV licence . If not, we can be taken to court and fined for not having one. It's disgraceful
Absolutely spot on! Had to write the same in my own comment. It is funded by us (tax) AND a forced annual fee. Supposed to be 'impartial' as a result and it is... only if you want your impartiality levels set between the likes of those who admire/promote the politics of Marx and Che Guevara! ;)
In 1906 someone said “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” “Hate Speech” is a term used by people that think it’s a good idea to have the government define hate. Politicians will find a way to define hate that benefits themselves. Being offended is much more pleasant than being oppressed. Keep speech free.
Hate speech would say hate those men up there because they're black and inferior. There is no such thing as total free speech in any society. The problem is what people call hate speech isn't always hate speech.
Words are not violence they are just words. They are also an excellent indication of character. Please keep speech free and allow everyone to expose...I mean express their true nature. Helps me find the good peeps when there aren’t so many closet PC a holes running around.
This is the first time I've seen a reporter held to task because they love to lie and say there's hateful content everywhere though it's everywhere but then I can't give one example elon wouldn't let him go we need a lot more of this
This is why the liberal MSM is very selective about who appears on their news shows. They don't want to get destroyed live in front of their small viewership.😉
Fox News literally does the same shit lol, they select specific people that either run parallel to their views, or people that they can make look foolish on their show to prove a point and push an agenda
hahahahhaa it's hilarious how you think it's only the liberal MSM. Also european liberalism isnt american liberalism. But thanks for showing the american education systems are failing I guess.
Elon Musk is great. This interviewer first said he personally saw bad tweets but when asked to give an example, he then says that's what other people have reported. He got busted real quick and then wanted to switch topics even quicker.
@@heronpage3883 this actually speaks volumes as to how you think. This person said nothing in they're statement on being rich yet you assume. You are the one that sees in black and white and that's sad
their job is to ask the questions and potentially lead the guest into traps, so they can harvest the sound clips for later manipulation, like a frankenstein monster, twisting the words out of context so they get that scoop and perhaps more points in the ratings for those advertising dollars that host probably drew the short straw and won't get his xmas bonus this year as a result of such a failure of an interview
Come on guys you have to be willing to be offended to tell the truth sometimes…..it can suck to hear and be painful but no one should be silenced. Regardless of what they’re saying. Best thing to combat hate speech is with conversation and facts. Shutting down someone’s speech just makes them believe what they’re saying even more. If there’s a hundred people in a room and ten are offended by something someone said is that hate speech?
Also, simply block trolls who are clearly abusing the platform's free speech policy. I'm more concerned about bots than some racist trolls that you can easily block.
Stumbled into this channel and this discussion. I am absolutely amazed at the level of discussion that these gentlemen have…it shows that even when a close group may not agree exactly on what a label defines, that a positive outcome can still come out of dialogue and polite discourse. Well done. You have a new fan and new subscriber that will boost you as much as I can. Well done. Great channel.
Do not stop people from voicing their words. Even if it is hurtful to you as a person, their words will just show their ignorance and lack of education, however that person still has a right to free speech. Without democracy and free speech, we may as well move to North Korea.
We already have laws against certain types of speech like threats of violence and slander because threats are not "free speech." Anything that is considered offensive, even by the vast majority, should never be illegal, and I would argue that for true free speech, it should also not be banned on a major platform like Twitter. Users should exercise self-policing by blocking trolls. I don't know if Twitter has this feature, but the user should be able to filter racial slurs and other "offensive" language from their feeds. This is the best compromise for preserving free speech, while making the user experience bearable, and it also mirrors real life, where you don't have to associate or interact with people that you despise.
One key point...taking offense/being offended is a CHOICE. Ignore it or give it weight/value - it is a choice. Choose to follow up and ask for clarification/context or not...its up to the individual to manage their emotions, think big picture, and choose not to allow others to influence or control our reactions/behavior.
"There is a difference between hate speech and speech that you hate"- Tom MacDonald. You don't get to silence everybody you don't agree with. The sooner they are allowed to put their ideas out there, the sooner ideas can be worked through or discarded.
You guys would love "Awaken With Jp" He is absolutely hysterical. He tackles the craziness that is going on today with great sarcasm, while putting out a lot of facts and truth. I would start with "The World's Greatest Female Swimmer".
There is no such thing as hate speech. It's a euphemism for wanting to ban speech they personally find detestable. Don't let anyone try to trick you into agreeing to banning something you personally dislike someone else believing or saying, because next they're coming for you.
Truth. There is no such thing as hate speech. Speech is speech. Just like the word homophobic was made up. No such thing. If someone doesn’t like the gay lifestyle that doesn’t make them homophobic.
I'd say hate speech will be something like genuinely advocating and trying to incite people to enact physical violence against someone or a group of people.
@@nelkam5543 but that's a criminal offense. Free Speech is the expression of ideas and opinion. Inciting a riot is not part of free speech. Like calling in a bomb threat that is false. That is criminal. It's not under the purview of free speech.
@Frostrazor1334 True. But that is technically a form of speech that is deemed unlawful by the government because it has negative and dangerous real world implications. That is what I personally consider to be hate speech.
If you do not agree with free speech it basically means that you think someone is more important than you are and should be able to create the reality you are allowed to know and perceive...for your own good. ✌
Umm so first off how can Elon answer the question without understanding the actual question more? And why would it be normal for the interviewer to just change the subject the moment he got called out for being a rat
@@chadm2343 It is used for debate and discussion as well. It’s about asking and answering questions, not letting someone change the subject, as well as making your opponent define their terms.
One small point: the U.S. is not a democracy. The founders hated democracies (read the Federalist Papers - what some of the founders wrote about the system they created). We have a Constitutional Republic.
I like what young man in red shirt said. We don't let something someone says affect you. I've learned I don't give it power. We are too easily offended now. It's a negative place for you live in. Personally I'm living above that, in the light!
When interviewing a genius you might want to study up and choose your questions carefully, and be prepared . This was like watching Mike Tyson box a 10 year old girl .
Great discussion guys 🔥 By the way, the US the Supreme Court already ruled that there is "no such thing as HATE SPEECH". just cause someone DOESN'T LIKE what you say, they don't get to then say "that's HATE SPEECH!" and have you censored/silenced. What ARE the limits under the law? You CANNOT use speech to call harm to people or property, "let's go beat up Greg!" and speech that puts people in actual physical danger (like yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater WHEN THERE IS NO FIRE) THAT speech is NOT protected by the first amendment and you would be committing a crime 👍
@@keithevans9544 You say that like any of them AREN'T biased. Bias or not isn't the point. What is LEGAL is not the same as what is MORAL, and tyrannizing ANYONE for what they say (outside of the dangerous forms they mentioned) is not a pathway people actually want. MORE authoritarian control is NOT going to make people feel better, it'll lead to things becoming more dangerous
@yaboi9349 bias is normal,personally I think it would be less biased with a democratic majority, ut of course I would think that.Hate speach is real that isn't up for debate ,whether it's a right is.
@@keithevans9544 hate speech ISN'T real because who determines WHAT IT IS? Example: I really hate the Last Jedi and think it's a terrible Star Wars movie. I think people who praise that movie and DELUSIONAL and speaking hate. Can I label THAT "Hate Speech" because I hate it? Try and share something YOU consider to be "hate speech" and let's see 🤔
Because he wouldn't be able to find it. Of course there is some hateful comments but for the most part they disappear to the bottom of thread or the person who commented it end up deleting it because everyone gets on their asss.
Hey this is random but I was supposed to go to Mexico for a wedding but travel friends canceled on me so now I'm not going. Anyways, I've always wanted to visit Fiji. Is it a decent place for a young American male to visit solo? I haven't been on a vacation for 6 years so I've decided to either go to Fiji or the US Virgin Islands.
@@kkhunt7 Bula from Fiji, you will enjoy Fiji, sceneries, beaches, island tours and of course the peope are friendly. Advisable to seek directions at hotel where to go and where and what to avoid.
I love you guys, man. I started following you guys the other day when I found the video of you guys listening to Professor Thomas Sowell. If our people start walking the road you guys are on now, we will eventually get better once we start practicing the things we're learning. Nuff Respect from Jamaica Brothers!!! 🇯🇲 🇺🇸!!!!!
The playbook by the Davos folk is very clear and it applies to every country. Anything that opposes our speech or views is one of the following: -"dangerous" -"fascist" -"misinformation" -"not democratic" Those are the labels they've put on Trump, Bolsonaro, Meloni for example. Also, you can't question why counting votes takes weeks.
He didn’t say there wasn’t consequences for free-speech what he said was it shouldn’t be arbitrated by people in the government or in quotation marks above you The consequences are public ridicule. Like the other guy said block, and you can always say something back. That’s the consequences.
You are right about us choosing to be offended. I recall being at a club watching/listening to the band and I was wearing my Allman Brothers Band r-shirt I had gotten at concert. I’m Hispanic and I’m enjoying myself when this white girl leans into me and said‘you’re bugging the shit out of me’. I looked at her, smiled and said ‘that’s YOUR problem’. Suddenly, she started talking to me, asking about me seeing The Allman Brothers Band. One minute she hated me, next minute trying to be friendly. I chose to not be offended.
Imagine being willing to give up the most important right that was hard fought for centuries over because someone wants to avoid having their feelings hurt. If we give speech up, we don't deserve any rights.
You guys are so entertaining when you start chatting with each other. You're going to all go far. A great combination of debate, critical thinking, curiosity, handsome youth looking sporty and ...you check every box for all Americans. I predict you're going far. So refreshing that we all need to try to feel like we are Americans on the same team
Lol, just a baby that can’t face the truth that his company is worth half now. Attack the reporter with weak questions. If the reporter had any experience he would have just ignored his questions and would have been prepared with facts.
Young brothers! Love watching you guys. Keep up the good work. keep your eyes out on people that get attacked for what they say. Seems to be a common thing these days.
Fun fact… in Britain, we also have the ‘Monster Raving Loony Party’ but to be honest, with the way the major parties are going, they might be the sanest party we have! 😂
Back in the old day, decades ago, people had more manners and respect for each other (at least where I was raised). If and when someone said something we didn't like, we either changed the channel or walked away. I was teased and tormented like crazy for having freckles. BIG FRECKLES! Although it hurt my feelings, I never let them see that they had hurt me. The only time I ever reacted to anything was if bullies picked on or beat up on smaller kids or handicap kids, then look out!!! This girl taught them a lesson they would never forget. As for the tormenting I received, Daddy always said to remember, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me." It seems our new society has never heard of that and has become quite weak and fragile that has to have something to whine about all the time. Another saying Dad said, "If you have time to stand around and complain, then you have time to do get some work done or help someone in need."
sounds like your dad and my dad are cut from the same cloth. the sticks and stones saying i actually learned from my mom, but dad would give examples from his marine corps boot camp (1960's) days. he said, if the drill instructors saw it bothered you, they kept on you til they broke you and washed out or you squared up and showed it didn't bother you.
@@shealanger Yep! That was back in the day when it was a REAL boot camp. They had to make sure that the boys/men could still function and make good decisions under the most extreme conditions, that's why the DIs would get in their faces & scream at them. They had to learn to maintain control. A hard way to learn, but it saved their lives when confronted with REAL SERIOUS situations. People found it hard to relate being screamed at and not allowed to do anything about it, to facing combat. I understood.
@@ionecuff6323 damn straight! now the kids being recruited need a pre-boot camp course so their feelings aren't hurt. it's really sickening to see how our values are being eroded.
@@shealanger I agree with you 1000%! I have told my grandsons they are not allowed to join the military. I told them that I don't see the brotherhood among the men like there was back in the old days. Back then, everyone had everyone else's back, no man was left behind. After seeing the Trans for the Navy, I stand even more firmly with my belief!!!
He said he hasn't used the feed for 3 or 4 weeks. He should be able to remember things that short while back, especially if they were hateful. Even if he was telling the truth then he has an awful memory and he shouldn't be in that job with an awful memory.
Different countries with different governments. The US is a federal Republic. Great Britain is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary democracy.
@@mattiethesurfer Seems about average for their age, for better or for worse. It's still refreshing to hear what they do know and think about things from their perspectives. That's the charm of the channel.
I'm old enough to remember the phrase, "If you don't like the show, then change the channel." Same with social media. If you don't like some content, don't follow it. Don't ban hate, expose it. Don't ban misinformation, challenge it. Don't cancel people and content, watch something else.
College educated don't mean jack anymore. The interviewer proves my point. I felt so dumb just by listening to him, guy just kept talking about nothing. Not one example could be said by him. So embarrassing for a giant network to be that we todded.
You don't need to be a genius to show that these people are lying, corrupt shills, it is just that they are never confronted like this. I am suspicious of this interaction, this kind of thing doesn't happen. It's all scripted.
If you set the precident that hate speech has consequences then who gets to define hate, who gets to decide the punishment, if you give the government the ability to govern your speech they will abuse it GARENTEED!
Guy in the red shirt has the right idea, allowing words to have power over your personal feelings is on the offended party. ONLY words that should be punishable are "calls to violent action" Yelling FIRE in a crowded theater may result in a "violent" rush out of the building. Calling for harm to come to another is certainly in that category as well
This is how the media needs to be talked to. Like toddlers who need to be called out for bad behavior.
They've been unchallenged for too long, with their ideological monopoly on public discourse.
@@TheK-PopInPublicAuthority cause they get paid not to talk about these things lol
Elon - "My dogwhistles were so vague that they count as plausible deniability so now I'm going to use DARVO because people don' t recognize it. And since you're attempting to report in good faith, you won't be expecting me to play the victim in front of the whole world."
decoded it for ya
Great and accurate comment!
Exactly. You going to work for an institution that's spreads misinformation and have the balls to question Musk about misinformation. Dude got rightfully put in his place.
The problem with banning ‘hate speech’ is: who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech?
Not only that, but any person who is given such an awesome power is bound to start abusing the power by expanding the definition of hate speech to include anything he doesn't like.
The only hate speech I have is this. I hate the division that most politicians and almost all mainstream media is promoting.
well obviously democrats... you know, the ones who are "above" the rest of us deplorables.
It seems to be recently it's the leftist loonies with their dodgy hair that decide what hateful speech is with their cancel culture. In their minds everything is hateful so everything has to be cancelled apart from extreme stuff like cutting off your bits and identify as inanimate objects and everything but a man or a woman
Nobody should be able to dictate the words people can say and cannot say, ever. There is no way to apply a rule that applies to everyones moral principles.
Media should be treated like tobacco execs. They are mouth pieces of the state at this point.
Always were
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I'm no Elon fan boy but I must admit it was SOOO funny to watch him gradually back that BBC guy into a corner the watch him flounder helplessly.
The way he demolished him just by asking for some facts and not letting the journo wriggle out of not giving any was poetry in motion! 😄👌
I admire that at least he's on the side of logic and commonsense
See it's not a grudge, but do u think you look cool saying u no fan boy of elon, like making him seem anyway less than you, or you are in position to not be a fan boy or anything? Elon musk is literally the most aspirational, intelligent man, note it he is gonna do things which are unimaginable to us.
@@infofreaks527 Didn't even consider whether anyone would think I "look cool" or not. Was just stating my position. Because there's more than enough people online who deify him and suck up to everything he says and does, as you very helpfully just demonstrated.
I just wanted to make it clear I am not one of THOSE people, but that l enjoyed and respect the way he won that argument anyway.
@@soundseeker63 aah, I thought triggering u would be fun, but u seem mature. Well taken dude😂😅
The reporter exposes his own agenda, saying: "this isn't going anywhere", as in: this isn't going according to the narrative we've set up.
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Lowkey true lul
The reporter did not expose any agenda. He was frustrated with having to talk to a complete idiot who has an ego so big he actually thinks he's a self-made man when in fact he got all his money friend Daddy's ill-gotten gains.
Damn I watched it twice and missed good catch
It's not his own agenda. This BBC reporter is just a useful idiot, the epitome of the modern mainstream journalist.
As the great Jimmy Carr once said “Offense is taken, not given.”
Ooooh we need to hear more of this "quote" being said. It's a choice. We have personal choices that matter, and thankfully, we are free to make them. Personally, I won't be controlled and manipulated into being miserable. Nope.
Jimmy carr is a pawn of the BBC and he's British so it's impossible for him to be funny
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@@isopropyltoxicity you should check his stuff
Hahahaha! Absolutely!
Rumors have it Elon is still waiting for a single example 😂
Here in the UK 🇬🇧 the BBC is an organisation that holds us to ransom for watching the television. We have to pay £159 a year for a TV licence . If not, we can be taken to court and fined for not having one. It's disgraceful
Absolutely spot on! Had to write the same in my own comment. It is funded by us (tax) AND a forced annual fee. Supposed to be 'impartial' as a result and it is... only if you want your impartiality levels set between the likes of those who admire/promote the politics of Marx and Che Guevara! ;)
In 1906 someone said “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
“Hate Speech” is a term used by people that think it’s a good idea to have the government define hate. Politicians will find a way to define hate that benefits themselves.
Being offended is much more pleasant than being oppressed. Keep speech free.
Hate speech would say hate those men up there because they're black and inferior. There is no such thing as total free speech in any society. The problem is what people call hate speech isn't always hate speech.
Love this “Being offended is much more pleasant than being oppressed. Keep Speech Free”
Words are not violence they are just words. They are also an excellent indication of character. Please keep speech free and allow everyone to expose...I mean express their true nature. Helps me find the good peeps when there aren’t so many closet PC a holes running around.
It predates 1906 no one knows the actual origin unfortunately
@@Jorpando yep
Dude couldn't keep himself from stuttering when he answered Elon musk back🤣🤣🤣
That's bc Elon beat him with his own stick 😅 & it was satisfying to watch 😆
Elon showed up to be interviewed and does a better job at interviewing the interviewer. Boss.
This is the first time I've seen a reporter held to task because they love to lie and say there's hateful content everywhere though it's everywhere but then I can't give one example elon wouldn't let him go we need a lot more of this
This is why the liberal MSM is very selective about who appears on their news shows. They don't want to get destroyed live in front of their small viewership.😉
This, is exacly like what FOX fake news does with there MAGA cult member audiance.
Fox News literally does the same shit lol, they select specific people that either run parallel to their views, or people that they can make look foolish on their show to prove a point and push an agenda
hahahahhaa it's hilarious how you think it's only the liberal MSM.
Also european liberalism isnt american liberalism.
But thanks for showing the american education systems are failing I guess.
🇺🇸✊🏾 Liberal msn and everything else that isn’t conservative it’s terrible
BBC aren't liberal you idiot
Elon Musk is great. This interviewer first said he personally saw bad tweets but when asked to give an example, he then says that's what other people have reported. He got busted real quick and then wanted to switch topics even quicker.
Lazy journalists at its best! I mean prepare some facts and evidence for the questions you gonna ask so you dont sound stupid,right?
@@heronpage3883 this actually speaks volumes as to how you think. This person said nothing in they're statement on being rich yet you assume. You are the one that sees in black and white and that's sad
we appreciate the succinct summary lol
@@heronpage3883 Better than hating people just because they're rich.
@@heronpage3883 you are as weasely as the BBC guy
Accountability is the worst thing you can do to a person. 😂😂
“Watch your tongue or have it cut from your head” they want to take all of your rights
You notice how they refuse to answer simple questions they avoid it !
their job is to ask the questions and potentially lead the guest into traps, so they can harvest the sound clips for later manipulation, like a frankenstein monster, twisting the words out of context so they get that scoop and perhaps more points in the ratings for those advertising dollars
that host probably drew the short straw and won't get his xmas bonus this year as a result of such a failure of an interview
Perfect example - "What is a woman?".
Progressives, especially reporters and politicians, waffle like idiots to that simple question.
@@orokusaki1243 that's why he recognized exactly what Elon was leading him towards.
@@stevenwilliams1805 yeah the tables were turned successfully!
Come on guys you have to be willing to be offended to tell the truth sometimes…..it can suck to hear and be painful but no one should be silenced. Regardless of what they’re saying. Best thing to combat hate speech is with conversation and facts. Shutting down someone’s speech just makes them believe what they’re saying even more. If there’s a hundred people in a room and ten are offended by something someone said is that hate speech?
Also, simply block trolls who are clearly abusing the platform's free speech policy. I'm more concerned about bots than some racist trolls that you can easily block.
Been watching for awhile. Love all the delving into the various issues and the discussions that ensue from that. Subscribed today. 😊
Stumbled into this channel and this discussion. I am absolutely amazed at the level of discussion that these gentlemen have…it shows that even when a close group may not agree exactly on what a label defines, that a positive outcome can still come out of dialogue and polite discourse. Well done. You have a new fan and new subscriber that will boost you as much as I can. Well done. Great channel.
Do not stop people from voicing their words. Even if it is hurtful to you as a person, their words will just show their ignorance and lack of education, however that person still has a right to free speech. Without democracy and free speech, we may as well move to North Korea.
We already have laws against certain types of speech like threats of violence and slander because threats are not "free speech." Anything that is considered offensive, even by the vast majority, should never be illegal, and I would argue that for true free speech, it should also not be banned on a major platform like Twitter. Users should exercise self-policing by blocking trolls. I don't know if Twitter has this feature, but the user should be able to filter racial slurs and other "offensive" language from their feeds. This is the best compromise for preserving free speech, while making the user experience bearable, and it also mirrors real life, where you don't have to associate or interact with people that you despise.
One key point...taking offense/being offended is a CHOICE. Ignore it or give it weight/value - it is a choice. Choose to follow up and ask for clarification/context or not...its up to the individual to manage their emotions, think big picture, and choose not to allow others to influence or control our reactions/behavior.
You used a lot of words to try and make that point 🙄
@@Alundrahs They were thorough in explaining the view point; that's different than "using a lot of words"
So true. Someone can be insulting but you don't have to be insulted by them. If you don't agree with the insult, it means nothing. Let it bounce off.
I'm British and want to apologise for the BBC - it has become an embarrassment now. We admired Elon for answering back against this guy's nonsense. 🇬🇧
"There is a difference between hate speech and speech that you hate"- Tom MacDonald. You don't get to silence everybody you don't agree with. The sooner they are allowed to put their ideas out there, the sooner ideas can be worked through or discarded.
You guys would love "Awaken With Jp" He is absolutely hysterical. He tackles the craziness that is going on today with great sarcasm, while putting out a lot of facts and truth. I would start with "The World's Greatest Female Swimmer".
Yes check out Awaken with jp!!
Lol yes
Tyler Fischer and Conservative Twins also (Awesome comedians!)
This!
Yes! My favorite one is the one about guns.. not sure what the exact title is.
He did no research before the biggest interview of his life. Lol. Fascinating isn’t it?
Puppets don’t do research, they simply have their strings pulled
They are not used to dealing with normal people who don't rely on scripts to speak.
I wonder if he was a Welsh affirmative action into oxford...an obscure joke I know
“I’m not saying anything” Pretty much the only honest thing he said in the whole interview. 😂
I love these vids man!. Keep doing what y’all doing! The dialogue is great!
There is no such thing as hate speech. It's a euphemism for wanting to ban speech they personally find detestable. Don't let anyone try to trick you into agreeing to banning something you personally dislike someone else believing or saying, because next they're coming for you.
God said she's very disappointed in you.
Truth. There is no such thing as hate speech. Speech is speech. Just like the word homophobic was made up. No such thing. If someone doesn’t like the gay lifestyle that doesn’t make them homophobic.
I'd say hate speech will be something like genuinely advocating and trying to incite people to enact physical violence against someone or a group of people.
@@nelkam5543 but that's a criminal offense. Free Speech is the expression of ideas and opinion.
Inciting a riot is not part of free speech. Like calling in a bomb threat that is false. That is criminal. It's not under the purview of free speech.
@Frostrazor1334 True. But that is technically a form of speech that is deemed unlawful by the government because it has negative and dangerous real world implications. That is what I personally consider to be hate speech.
If you do not agree with free speech it basically means that you think someone is more important than you are and should be able to create the reality you are allowed to know and perceive...for your own good. ✌
Yeah. God is more important than I am and has already defined what is good and evil.
@@MontChevalier what is your point with that statement?
@@oleandra3759he's telling people that he has a simplistic world view and doesn't see the need to think for himself.
@@oleandra3759 That you're going to hell.
@@CaptainAwesome7400 No no, just that I can see for myself who is worth anything and who isn't. Kinda like you.
Y’all know what the BBC stands for 😂😂 I’m dying. New to the channel. These guys are great
Y'all are fun. This is the second reaction I've watched. Thumbs up!!
Elon used the Socratic method against the BBC journalist by making him define his terms, give an example, and not letting him change the subject.
Umm so first off how can Elon answer the question without understanding the actual question more? And why would it be normal for the interviewer to just change the subject the moment he got called out for being a rat
@@Ijbvfknnn You do realize that I am praising Elon for his methods, right?
I don't believe that is how that would be termed. "The Socratic method" from what I've learned would be Socrates' teaching method.
@@chadm2343 It is used for debate and discussion as well. It’s about asking and answering questions, not letting someone change the subject, as well as making your opponent define their terms.
19:45 RED Shirt made the best point.
Who is the arbiter of deciding.
It’s a slippery slippery slope.
Imagine how that reporter felt about 3 minutes in. There were a whole lot of "Oh, Sh*t" thoughts going through his head.
One small point: the U.S. is not a democracy. The founders hated democracies (read the Federalist Papers - what some of the founders wrote about the system they created). We have a Constitutional Republic.
I like what young man in red shirt said. We don't let something someone says affect you. I've learned I don't give it power. We are too easily offended now. It's a negative place for you live in. Personally I'm living above that, in the light!
100%
When interviewing a genius you might want to study up and choose your questions carefully, and be prepared . This was like watching Mike Tyson box a 10 year old girl .
lol. His asperger's ass was born into money and used that money to pay actually smart people to build him things that will make him even more money.
Exactly. It is the reporters job to be prepared. Nowadays it seems that everybody has opinions and the opinions are facts because they are theirs.
Elon is not a genius lol. Far from it.
@@StellarisIgnis Its all relative . Compared to the interviewer , he is a rocket scientist. Oh thats right He Is a rocket scientist 😉
@@StellarisIgnis Yeah, he just stumbled into all of his success, lol. You people can't stand seeing other people do well.
As a journalist he has to bring the receipts, Elon was right to persist
Thank you! Who’s the people that think that they are the ONLY ONES that can determine what IS or ISN’T MISINFORMATION?!? Thanks
Great discussion guys 🔥
By the way, the US the Supreme Court already ruled that there is "no such thing as HATE SPEECH". just cause someone DOESN'T LIKE what you say, they don't get to then say "that's HATE SPEECH!" and have you censored/silenced.
What ARE the limits under the law?
You CANNOT use speech to call harm to people or property, "let's go beat up Greg!" and speech that puts people in actual physical danger (like yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater WHEN THERE IS NO FIRE)
THAT speech is NOT protected by the first amendment and you would be committing a crime 👍
A politically biased court rules on hate speach lol
@@keithevans9544 You say that like any of them AREN'T biased. Bias or not isn't the point. What is LEGAL is not the same as what is MORAL, and tyrannizing ANYONE for what they say (outside of the dangerous forms they mentioned) is not a pathway people actually want. MORE authoritarian control is NOT going to make people feel better, it'll lead to things becoming more dangerous
@yaboi9349 bias is normal,personally I think it would be less biased with a democratic majority, ut of course I would think that.Hate speach is real that isn't up for debate ,whether it's a right is.
@@keithevans9544 are you in middle school
@@keithevans9544 hate speech ISN'T real because who determines WHAT IT IS?
Example: I really hate the Last Jedi and think it's a terrible Star Wars movie.
I think people who praise that movie and DELUSIONAL and speaking hate.
Can I label THAT "Hate Speech" because I hate it? Try and share something YOU consider to be "hate speech" and let's see 🤔
The sad part is he has his phone in his hand and yet he does not look at it for the so called bad tweets. LOL
I thought exactly the same thing ridiculous
Because he wouldn't be able to find it. Of course there is some hateful comments but for the most part they disappear to the bottom of thread or the person who commented it end up deleting it because everyone gets on their asss.
Y'all are great. I love the fact that y'all are talking about important topics like this.
Denmark has something like 13 parties right now running 😂
Watching from Fiji, really good conversations you having, thoroughly enjoyable.
Hey this is random but I was supposed to go to Mexico for a wedding but travel friends canceled on me so now I'm not going. Anyways, I've always wanted to visit Fiji. Is it a decent place for a young American male to visit solo? I haven't been on a vacation for 6 years so I've decided to either go to Fiji or the US Virgin Islands.
@@kkhunt7 Bula from Fiji, you will enjoy Fiji, sceneries, beaches, island tours and of course the peope are friendly. Advisable to seek directions at hotel where to go and where and what to avoid.
@@legaleaglefj why thank you my friend! If you have any suggestions on where the best area is to stay (get a hotel), I'm all ears.
I love you guys, man. I started following you guys the other day when I found the video of you guys listening to Professor Thomas Sowell. If our people start walking the road you guys are on now, we will eventually get better once we start practicing the things we're learning.
Nuff Respect from Jamaica Brothers!!! 🇯🇲 🇺🇸!!!!!
Good conversation guys. I enjoy listening to your point of view .
The playbook by the Davos folk is very clear and it applies to every country. Anything that opposes our speech or views is one of the following:
-"dangerous"
-"fascist"
-"misinformation"
-"not democratic"
Those are the labels they've put on Trump, Bolsonaro, Meloni for example. Also, you can't question why counting votes takes weeks.
Someone else already commented this but “Awaken with JP”-funny and informative. He does his research.
He didn’t say there wasn’t consequences for free-speech what he said was it shouldn’t be arbitrated by people in the government or in quotation marks above you
The consequences are public ridicule. Like the other guy said block, and you can always say something back. That’s the consequences.
We choose to be offended. I think it boils down to treating and talking to others the same way you want to be treated.
You are right about us choosing to be offended. I recall being at a club watching/listening to the band and I was wearing my Allman Brothers Band r-shirt I had gotten at concert. I’m Hispanic and I’m enjoying myself when this white girl leans into me and said‘you’re bugging the shit out of me’. I looked at her, smiled and said ‘that’s YOUR problem’. Suddenly, she started talking to me, asking about me seeing The Allman Brothers Band. One minute she hated me, next minute trying to be friendly. I chose to not be offended.
The golden rule. Which was essentially ingrained in most Americans from basically birth but is all but forgotten now. Part of the problem.
Imagine being willing to give up the most important right that was hard fought for centuries over because someone wants to avoid having their feelings hurt. If we give speech up, we don't deserve any rights.
You guys are so entertaining when you start chatting with each other. You're going to all go far. A great combination of debate, critical thinking, curiosity, handsome youth looking sporty and ...you check every box for all Americans. I predict you're going far. So refreshing that we all need to try to feel like we are Americans on the same team
You wasn't expecting that 😂😂😂
Ooooo yay! Didn’t think you guys were gonna do this one 😅
Elon slayed it! Loved when he let dude know that the interview has been reversed lol 🙌🏻
Love you guys. You're always fair and reasonable.
Haha. I didn’t even realize it until you said it 😂
This goes for all cable media for sure! They just lie!
Did I hear someone say Piers Morgan a “Conservative”? NO! Lol. Great job fellas 💪🇺🇸
That’s what happens when you go up against a genius… Should come prepared.
Lol, just a baby that can’t face the truth that his company is worth half now. Attack the reporter with weak questions. If the reporter had any experience he would have just ignored his questions and would have been prepared with facts.
@@MACDRU421 I think you may need to watch this again. Perhaps when less emotionally charged.
@@MACDRU421 Absolutely.
A genius who ruins everything he touches?
@@MACDRU421 That copium.
Great content fellas. Keep it up!
Free Speech is protected unless IF IT INCITES VIOLENCE, NOT protected!!!
Awaken with JP is a satirical genius you guys can begin with "the best female swimmer in the world"
Young brothers! Love watching you guys. Keep up the good work. keep your eyes out on people that get attacked for what they say. Seems to be a common thing these days.
FREE THE FREE SPEECH !!
This reporter is a known gotcha reporter. I'm really shocked Elon even spoke with him but the outcome was priceless. O.o
Fun fact… in Britain, we also have the ‘Monster Raving Loony Party’ but to be honest, with the way the major parties are going, they might be the sanest party we have! 😂
❤ Elon! And ❤ Brandon 🤦♀️ ❤️ all of you!
My guy was WAAAAYYYYY out of his league haha
He was right. The news companies DO have the same owners.
When you lose your temper you lose the argument
Would you rather know who your enemies are or be oblivious and have to guess? It's always a benefit to identify threats as early as possible.
I will take freedom of speech with a sprikle of hate speech (whatever that may be) over censorship any day.
I’m just surprised they aired the Ep with that still in
ELON SHOWS YOU DONT NEED TO GO BEAST MODE ... TO GO ... BEAST MODE!
ELON MUSK is GENIUS He is listen again without interruptions.
Im actually super impressed he called out Louis Vuitton immediately from LVMH
Elon made sure that it was simultaneously streamed live so that the BBC couldn't selectively edit it!
Back in the old day, decades ago, people had more manners and respect for each other (at least where I was raised). If and when someone said something we didn't like, we either changed the channel or walked away. I was teased and tormented like crazy for having freckles. BIG FRECKLES! Although it hurt my feelings, I never let them see that they had hurt me. The only time I ever reacted to anything was if bullies picked on or beat up on smaller kids or handicap kids, then look out!!! This girl taught them a lesson they would never forget. As for the tormenting I received, Daddy always said to remember, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me." It seems our new society has never heard of that and has become quite weak and fragile that has to have something to whine about all the time. Another saying Dad said, "If you have time to stand around and complain, then you have time to do get some work done or help someone in need."
sounds like your dad and my dad are cut from the same cloth. the sticks and stones saying i actually learned from my mom, but dad would give examples from his marine corps boot camp (1960's) days. he said, if the drill instructors saw it bothered you, they kept on you til they broke you and washed out or you squared up and showed it didn't bother you.
@@shealanger Yep! That was back in the day when it was a REAL boot camp. They had to make sure that the boys/men could still function and make good decisions under the most extreme conditions, that's why the DIs would get in their faces & scream at them. They had to learn to maintain control. A hard way to learn, but it saved their lives when confronted with REAL SERIOUS situations. People found it hard to relate being screamed at and not allowed to do anything about it, to facing combat. I understood.
@@ionecuff6323 damn straight! now the kids being recruited need a pre-boot camp course so their feelings aren't hurt. it's really sickening to see how our values are being eroded.
@@shealanger I agree with you 1000%! I have told my grandsons they are not allowed to join the military. I told them that I don't see the brotherhood among the men like there was back in the old days. Back then, everyone had everyone else's back, no man was left behind. After seeing the Trans for the Navy, I stand even more firmly with my belief!!!
That interviewer was stumbling more than a drunk with one leg.
Love the content, gentlemen!
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C-Block - So Strung Out
God I love America!! ❤ you guys are Americans. Bring it back, bring it back baby
He said he hasn't used the feed for 3 or 4 weeks. He should be able to remember things that short while back, especially if they were hateful. Even if he was telling the truth then he has an awful memory and he shouldn't be in that job with an awful memory.
Different countries with different governments. The US is a federal Republic. Great Britain is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary democracy.
Yeah, their understanding of U.S. history is very elementary - and that’s being polite.
@@mattiethesurfer Seems about average for their age, for better or for worse. It's still refreshing to hear what they do know and think about things from their perspectives. That's the charm of the channel.
@@orokusaki1243
Curiosity is half the battle.
Love young guys diving into this stuff. Good for the mind. Keep it up. Love the discussion after video.
The reporter came unarmed to a brain fight.
Well said!!!
"Oh, you thought it wasn't?"
Rekt
Ooohhh, I was hoping you'd react to this one. Bring it on!
It’s not what is best, but who gets to decide what is best. -Thomas Sowell
I'm so glad I found you guys channel again
I'm old enough to remember the phrase, "If you don't like the show, then change the channel." Same with social media. If you don't like some content, don't follow it. Don't ban hate, expose it. Don't ban misinformation, challenge it. Don't cancel people and content, watch something else.
Piers Morgan is a conservative is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard
College educated don't mean jack anymore. The interviewer proves my point. I felt so dumb just by listening to him, guy just kept talking about nothing. Not one example could be said by him. So embarrassing for a giant network to be that we todded.
The queen died. Her son is now the king.
They need to get up to date.
@@theultimatenewplayer9341 who gives a shit about Charles cheating ass? Your tiny island and that’s it I guess
"consequences" should not mean "we don't like your opinion on this topic so we're going to try and get you fired from your job", though.
Unless they knew what they were doing, and purposely spewing propagandist narratives...
Facts, fellas. Free speech works both ways, but must stay free.
Again, the smartest guy shows up again. Love you guys!
Elon Musk is very smart! A Genius!
You don't need to be a genius to show that these people are lying, corrupt shills, it is just that they are never confronted like this. I am suspicious of this interaction, this kind of thing doesn't happen. It's all scripted.
If you set the precident that hate speech has consequences then who gets to define hate, who gets to decide the punishment, if you give the government the ability to govern your speech they will abuse it GARENTEED!
Guy in the red shirt has the right idea, allowing words to have power over your personal feelings is on the offended party. ONLY words that should be punishable are "calls to violent action" Yelling FIRE in a crowded theater may result in a "violent" rush out of the building. Calling for harm to come to another is certainly in that category as well