The fact that David got choked up when he was talking about how everyone deserves to feel good is evidence that he is truly a good man. You probably see less than .1% of people that would share this sentiment. The world needs more people that share this sentiment.
Absolutely. Yet his answer & ideas about post-nihilism are still like a pretty rough piece of rock. It could turn out to be a diamond but it could also turn out to be garbage. Perhaps there are some nuggets that could be extracted so it maybe worth digging deeper into broad-complex topics like capitalism, socialism, liberalism, imperialism, anarchism, communism, nihilism, modernism, etc.
No one person can define a philosophy or movement. We can all only contribute. It's up to everyone else to carry the torch if it resonates with them. All I can do is put a name on it, articulate it, and share the idea.
1. What is missing from all AI "alignment" discussion is whose world view is going to be the alignment standard? Wokeness, egalitarianism, political theories, individualism, collectivism, responsibility, laws, liberalism, globalization, etc. and even facts and truth, all involve judgements and values. 2. ChatGPT is indeed a word prediction system. What few people understand about LLMs is what drives the predictions. It isn't the previous words per se. Nobody is talking about what is happening between the words in the prompt given to the LLM and the words in the LLM response. Calling LLMs a word prediction system hides the basis for LLM power as well as the real levers for controlling and improving AI.
i'm blown away by the level of great, thought-provoking content you have treated us to in this video! I am following your ChatGPT novel writing series with great interest. Thank you.
I would imagine you don't know the impact you are making in my life, especially with this video. I've been watching and listening to your UA-cam channel for a few weeks now, going back further and further in your videos to learn more and more from you. I feel like a student again tho I dropped out 15yrs ago and I love it. You've changed my opinions outlooks and revitalized my passion for learning and yearning to help others in learning and understanding everything that I know and in turn what they know, learning individual truths to understand humanity as a whole. Thank you for what you do and what you've done to get here
I wanted to express my appreciation for your work in AI cognitive architectures and NLP. Your insights and expertise have been incredibly valuable to me, and I have been sharing your channel with everyone I meet who is interested in these topics. Your work has helped me realize the power of my own expertise in Mind, Brain, and Education and has inspired me to pursue further research in this field.
Smashing comment. Fortunately/Unfortunately some zealots, fascists, elitists, egotists, oligarchs, kelptocrats, imperialists, etc. are seeing open-source AI as a "double edge sword" that can cut deep into their profits & threaten to destroy the pyramid they have built/guarded. Some may be planning to lobby/influence the leaders to use the courts, thugs, police, lawyers, hackers, media, censorship, regulations, propaganda, etc. to the shape/manipulate such technology to favour them.
You provide so much more than just updates and tricks and how-to's about AI. I respect and appreciate what you bring. I think it's important that we all keep our eyes wide open in these rapidly changing times, and you're doing an excellent job in helping us with that. Keep it up.
Incredible video and great work. Could pick a few holes in it, (ie. regarding creation of content: people will always seek out honesty, humanness and relate-ability, even subconsciously; which AI can possibly mimic but not actually convey) but all in all, this message deserves more listeners. That will come tho, when mainstream awareness kicks in. PS - Note the choking up moment as a good example (sorry to diminish this moment) AI can possibly never strike a human cord like this because we can relate to its authenticity, differently, through empathy or compassion.
I got to push back a little bit on the emotional intelligence issue because GPT 3 seems to display a significant level of emotional intelligence already, not only presenting a clear understanding of how emotions were but also giving useful output in terms of emotional situations people sometimes get into. There is an example dr. Alan Thompson did where he was talking to instruct to GPT and he was telling a story about how his friend wanted him to come over and pay for a meal to eat and it was funny that GPT was able to understand the Dynamics why that would be an unreasonable proposition.
As GDP measures physical wealth from products and services, we need to measure the human qualities such as empathy so that we can pay more attention to it. Like they say in the business world, "What get measured gets done!". A group of soft skills trainers and tech experts created something called 'World Civility Index' where individuals can participate, part of what you called "pursuit of excellence", a new KPI.
One of the best videos I've seen about this subject so far. Clear, follows a very logical train of thought, and so well explained that I feel confident in sending this to my friends no matter where they are in the political spectrum. Thank you so much. Definitely subscribed
Because *after* 2000, all the *profit* from the workers' productivity-wait for it-went to the CEOs and to the stock market, not to the workers via *larger* salaries. During the pandemic, folks were able to really *see* and *digest* this (and many other things, George Floyd, Metoo, WHF vs RTO, etc.), and many have left the workforce.
I'm just coming to these videos and I have to wonder what you guys are thinking about it now. I talk to the people around me even today, and they mostly don't have a clue what's coming. I'm pretty excited, but trying to figure out what I'll do once the jobs start really disappearing which is what led me here.
just a few days before seeing this video i talked about this with my mother and used exactly this phrasing, that people should be considered to generatre value by the pure fact of existence. Funny to see that reflected here. I couldnt agree more we are producing so much wealth it is time see to it that all people can have a decent life without conditions
The A.I revolution has the potential to significantly increase the abundance of resources and labor in the economy, as machines and A.I take on a greater role in production, increasing economic output/GDP by orders of magnitude. However, this also means that human labor may become less necessary, which is why the idea of Universal Basic Income (UBI) is important. With A.I and machines doing much of the work, economic growth may not be as dependent on population growth. If this works out, Humans may be in for a real treat where the economy can function purely off of A.I economic output and we can live in a world where we can have anything and do anything we want without the need to work if we so choose. And I don't think it's too far off!
Wow, great Video David. It went beyond AI and into its future implications and questioned it all again, "Why am I here"? A lot to think about and do.... but hurry up and do so!
As far as Roman grain doles are concnered, I am not sure if that was done so much out of charity or more because hungry people tend to overthrow their rulers.
I don’t necessarily agree with absolutely everything you say, but I like your videos and they make me think. Thank you for making them. As an example, I’m not convinced that your principles for AI alignment are necessarily the best or perfect; they’re not a bad start but they seem imperfect to me. For example, specifying what you mean more accurately. So when you say increase prosperity, perhaps you should instead say, “increase both collective and individual prosperity for all people”. The reason to include individual is so that we don’t take actions that greatly sacrifice some individual to make everyone else a tiny bit more prosperous. Additionally, something should be said about preserving the things that humans value; so don’t increase prosperity at the cost of completely destroying the environment for example. Also something about achieving a balance between the disparate goals so that no single goal comes to dominate the others. Also maybe a “interpret these commands as we would want you to interpret them”. You don’t want a situation where the ASI decides that it gets the most reward by maximizing happiness while sacrificing everything else and so decides to destructively scan and upload all of our brains and then perform the virtual equivalent of placing electrodes into the pleasure centers of all of our brain. As an aside, is it just me or is there a lot of “popping” in the audio of this particular video? I don’t know if it’s just my phone or whatever or if it’s the video itself. I don’t remember the other videos of yours having that issue.
David after seeing this video I have so much respect for you! Honestly you are the only youtuber who has really changed my perspective on so many pivotal/topics. Truly great and amazing work you are doing!
"We" are not the problem. "We" are not going to change society by admitting that "we" need to think positive and see the value in eachother. The rules of the game are set by the richest most powerful people, and the game that "we" are forced to play is working to ensure that they get the most and "we" get the least. There is no point discussing a change in cultural perspectives without discussing how to limit the wealth and power of those that are in control so that "we" have a chance at changing the game. Unfortunately, I believe that AI is going to change society far faster than "we" can break the stranglehold that the powerful few has on rigging the game, which just means that AI will be put to work feeding more power and wealth to those in control. If you want AI to help the people, then we need to focus at least some effort on creating a large scale comprehensive predictive model of society, so that we can test change scenarios and predict how society will evolve. Thinking about changing tax rates or introducing UBI ? - We need to be able to model how that will play out with enough fidelity that we can provide a roadmap for change that can be used to try to counter the deafening chorus of angry voices that will shout down even the slightest suggestion of changing the rules to help the people.
Not what I expected based on the video title. Enjoyed it. Looks like you have a new calling. Good luck as a content creator. I wonder though if the content creator career is not a fad. Maybe combining it with something traditional will be more stable. Guest speaker, book author, coach or teacher, in person if possible comes to mind. Anyway, I liked the Be Kind signoff.
I cant imagine how "they" were able to treat a genius like you not fairly at your job. Although I feel everything happens for good, your channel is one of the 2-3 channels I regularly check on youtube. Great work.
Really good background reading for this is “Poverty, by America” by Matthew Desmond. A big takeaway is that the poor vastly underutilize government handouts, whereas the middle class gets more in tax breaks than they pay in taxes, and never miss a chance to take advantage of a government handout. There’s a lot of propaganda at work that keeps us distracted by pitting us against each other.
The red mars / blue mars / green mars sci-fi novels had some interesting commentary where it looked at the progression of the feudal system through to capitalism and how, when the new system was introduced, it kept a little bit of the previous system but introduced some new parts. Just mentioning this re: the closing comments of this video that we need a new moral system.
Great video. As for your "we all deserve to feel good" idea, something to consider is that no successful wisdom tradition that has stood the test of time(religions, stoicism) has recommended us to chase feeling good, with the most trivial explanation for that rationale being how easy it is to spiral into hedonism. In other words, we need to be aware of how counterintuitive the enterprise of feeling good really is and approach it with deep humility and look for lessons all throughout history as we move forward.
@@DaveShap I don’t disagree. My point more than anything is to stress the nuanced difference between prioritizing pleasure and minimizing suffering. The reason buddhism uses the language of relieving suffering rather feeling good is that it lends itself much better to making long term decisions that minimize the sum of all pain rather than trying to feel good by doing things that bring you short term pleasure. Anyway this could probably be a long discussion not fit for UA-cam comments. keep up the great work and wishing your channel more success.
Thanks David! Unfortunately the video's audio contains breaks&clicks. I don't know the reasons, but I suspect is not the mic. Maybe the video recording sw (see your pc windows status)?
Have you heard about Self-Determination Theory (SDT)? It describes self-determination, social acceptance and competence as three basic human needs, that also balance out nicely our goal seeking behavior between doing what we like, doing what others like and being good at what we do. Might also work for AI.
Thank you a lot for this video! So many important things said outloud. Some of our living habits are based on a hunch of very old principles like hierarchy, shortage, survival. It's time to switch to the new models of transparency, flexibility and wellbeing imo.
Really good presentation watched it all the way, just be aware of sound clipping and sound defects. I was thinking it was my headphones, but it was the audio.
Dude, this is great! I’m with you… we a new moral - economic framework to deal with all we’ve going through and we need more people with your mindset. Thanks for putting this out!
I agree with you but it won't work in the current environment. Why ? It require people who care about society, democracy, family and human values. All those "values" are currently under attack by neo-feudalists who meet each year in Davos or in one of those WEF conferences, so called 1% crowd. They want companies to replace governments and cut freedoms we enjoy only so they can survive and thrive like some giant parasites. If you look at society right now you will observe highest ever political polarization, not just in US but in the whole world. This is the result of decades of gov. corruption, crony capitalism (I am libertarian so don't call me socialist or whatever) and completely broken education system which is now overrun by ultra radical Marxists (just go to any university and see what rubbish they teach). There is no way out of it. We just need to accept what we have and try to sail through it while trying to self-improve. Is there any other option ? I think not. By the way, I am also part of Great Resignation. Well not fully, but I switched to part-time after realizing my free time is the most precious thing I have.
Hyper abundance (i.e. all goods services at extremely cheap prices vs. incomes) can only come about in nation states where the government doesn't massively debase the currency as a response to huge deflation from AI. I can see few if any nation states responding in this way. High levels of deflation would also result in a crisis as the liability (debt) increases in value and can't be paid back. Lets say cost of electronics, higher education, housing, transportation drops 90% - the government can use that deflation to print money to maintain their target 2% inflation (i.e. it's not hyper abundance, all efficiency gains are absorbed by the government politicians with their pet schemes to win elections - UBI, white elephant infrastructure projects etc.). It all simply provides cover for the government to print more money.
Hi David, great video! The book you mentioned - is it "Do Nothing" by Celeste Headlee or "Do Nothing" by Damian Mark Smyth or "Do Nothing" by Keith Murningham?
Incredible video my friend, I'm starting an UA-cam channel in Brazil, the focus isn't about just AI, but frequently I will talk about it. Your video gave me chills, I started studying AI and realizing these problems we are having and will have, the thing that most hit me was about the work force that can be automated, I had my own statistics about, and it was below 50% (between 40% to 50%) this is really alarming, if we don't have jobs, how money will circulate in the economy? How can you buy something if you don't have enough even to eat? How companies will profit if there's less and less money circulating? Capitalism is going to shoot his own foot with AI, not that I'm a "primitivist" or something like that 😅, AI is the future, but this kind of step for humanity is going to be problematic if we don't take care. Thanks for the video, for now on I will be watching your content.
i think its more simple and ironicly more complicated, economy circulate with or without, demand offer, rarity, more less work, if 20 billions human cant eat and rich ceo employe for very cheap cause automation competition, i dont think economy care about circulating or not, its more about offer and demand and rarity. cans of beans high offer low demande : eat cheap. air water is free. people want sportcars and traveling every years maybe is the economic problem, and not eating beans and working 20 hours and not fall for the 80 hour circle pit of debth for luxury we dont have time to enjoy but im ranting hehe
Excellent video! Very well explained. My question is: How do you avoid too much centralized power when the government is effectively controlling the finances of over half the population and extensively taxing the other half to make it possible to do so? The balance between individual liberty and beurocratic tyranny becomes incredibly difficult to find..
Redistribution has to be performed by the most powerful entity - federal government. So that means we need stronger democratic institutions so that it is more responsive to the will of the people (while also remaining stable and robust).
18:32 but the economy growth is not equally redistributed partially because of corporate growth and other societal issues. That the part economist don’t necessarily take in consideration (intentionally or not) in they conclusion
Hello David, I'd be interested in seeing what areas will be impacted in the near to immediate future. In the weeks after ChatGPT made waves, there were videos made describing going to websites that doled out copywriting jobs, and then also pointed to websites such as Chat ai that would write the copy for those freelance copywriting jobs. I would imagine that the payout for those copywriting jobs would be dropping overnight. What jobs will be the first to be hit in the coming months, and then in the next year to two years? And what new categories of jobs (if one is to dream) might be springing up. And could this content be aimed at people who are either looking for work, or are thinking about changing career directions to something with more security.
David AI will accelerate nuclear fusion discovery. Once we reach that we will have unlimited energy source. Desalination of water. Indoor aquaponics in city will all be economically feasible to scale. Plus AI education is going to lead to a more ethical generation. Also think about the creative force AI will release in poor countries.
Greeting. I think that you miss a very important point : all these machines cannot exist without hydrocarbons. All our world (essentialy : economy) is related to that : women at work, population growth, unlimited expansion, technology, etc. The other problem : liberal economy (ex. Adam Smith, J-B Say) are based on two huge omission : unlimited raw ressources and energy, and no consideration for the consequence (ex. pollution). For the part concerning IA, i totally agree with you.
7:51 actually it would be very good if you would do some kind of video on this topic. For example summarising those approaches and giving real life example of applying and comparing this to just brain in the jar approach
@@DaveShap well, I have no idea about that, but as you mentioned some people are doing it. Just like showing their approaches on connecting GPT to the internet.
@@DaveShap I'd also be really interested in seeing the approaches people have taken so far in integrating GPT with the internet. I haven't seen any examples of people doing that.
I had started making custom GPT’s. I found it amazing however, I did find open AI environment to be a little bit restrictive. I’m hearing about grok and Azure and all these other things but I have no idea which one would be best for someone that wanted to design on top of it.
There is no way to quantify carrying capacity at the same time, we have a system that needs constant consumption, the only kind of number one may get are those of how long can we burn through some resources instead of how much do we actually need.
Short term it’s going to be really rough for a lot of people. Lots of political and cultural upheaval. Long term universal basic income or some derivative and all human labor is optional. Human immortality will be a thing.
Love the postnihilism, but I think I’m a postnihilistic cynic. Everyone is valuable, but in the aggregate we seem to have pulled off the amazing trick of being less than the sum of our parts. This is of course because the exploiters have been allowed to hit way above their weight. But you do give me hope. I too, especially as I get older, can get choked up over demonstrations of a potentially kinder and gentler world. It must mean something that doing a good deed makes us feel so good. This must be an indicator of evolutionary fitness value, which we ignore at our peril. Wonderful video David!
Hey Dave, thanks for making the video. Do you know if we are able to take the fine-tuned model we create and embed it on the frontend of a site, to make a niche-specific name generator, for example, for users to use - or can that only be done with an OpenAI standard model, such as Davinci-003? (I remember you mentioned in one of your vids that individual models are not able to be shared - is my example what was meant by that?)
I appreciate your videos and this analysis, but I think in the last slides you gave in to the temptation of providing an "easy explanation" with redistribution, which in my opinion doesn't explain why we all have this feeling that the great technological progress hasn't brought the era of abundance we would expect. I will try to provide another explanation: the exceptional growth of well-being has been captured mostly by a single progress: having a huge class of people, the elderly, who live without working (I want to clarify that in no way do I want to suggest that the elderly are "useless" or "harmful"). If in the charts you introduce the proportion of people who have stopped working, you can see that the hours of work per capita have actually dropped a lot, simply this happens in an asynchronous way, concentrating all the work before and zeroing it after. Technological progress has almost always turned into economic goods or services that are free for everyone, the reason why having Google and Facebook doesn't make us live so well is not because the profits of Google and Facebook are not distributed. The solution to this is not more redistribution (in Europe the tax is at 50% but the situation is not better), but more technological progress.
All of this makes total sense and I fully agree with everything you've said. Unfortunately, the egg-heads that govern us have zero understanding of these issues and are caught in a tight net of individualism, tribalism and corruption (not to mention religion), so I don't expect much from them. I mean, the world WITHOUT ai was already a hot mess that didn't work for a large percentage of the population.
As an officially categorized "senior citizen" I'm willing to spend a couple of thousand dollars for a robot nanny. The acid test is that it can clean my toilets, make my bed, clean my house and mow my lawn as effectively as I can.
Agricultural revolution came before industrial revolution. Humans moving from a hunter gatherer lifestyle to growing crops in one place and managing farm animals was the agricultural revolution. Using industrial machines to enhance agriculture is just a part of the industrial revolution
I say this jokingly, but it fits with what you mentioned about Nihilism. Remember the German Nihilists in the film The Big Lebowski? They claimed to believe in nothing, to care about nothing, but the single thing that motivates all their actions throughout the movie is a criminal get-rich-quick scheme that involves mutilating one of the conspirators. As you suggested, it seems that a childish self-indulgence can sit at the core of Nihilism, one that's often soothed by the instant gratification money can bring.
I had a talk in my family and we all agree that ai will have a significant role in our lives. But that depends on to which generation you belong. There are different implications. Our fear is that the wealth profits and efficiency gains will not be distributed to all human Kind fairly. There will be a big cohort of losers and a tiny tiny fraction of man kind who gets all. Do I or my kids want to live in that future? What can we do about that?
Hey David Shapiro, you had a spiritual awakening! Guess what. There are many others of us who have had a similar awakening recently. It's part of our collective consciousness. And we are arriving at this awakening now. Why,? Because there's something big on the horizon and our collective consciousness intuitively realizes this. Is "something big" AI? Most likely. This will change everything. But really, when fear is gone we will all change. Ever since the dawn of human beings, we have been in survival mode and that could change soon. I even tried to make my comments free of offensive allusions. Oh and I'm glad you are available on UA-cam to watch.
Good talk but the bit at the end, marxism and socialism are not about central control. Marxism analyses historical development through the lens of materialism and socialism encompasses many things but the central tenet is the collective ownership of means of production instead private ownership. What you describe is Marxism-Lenininsm (aka the ideology of Soviet Union and many other "socialist" republics) which many consider the perversion of socialism because instead of workers the capitalist was replaced by a government beauracrat as the decision maker, which often (as you mentioned) lead to disastrous results.
David, I would just encourage you to read Capital. What you're describing, sounds close to a pure Marxist conception of Communism. Marx actually extold the virtue of personal property "e.i. your house." But differentiated private property is property owned by rent seekers. (A factory, or a landlord's property). The Soviet Union didn't practice a Marxist form of communism. Would they practice with something closer to State capitalism. Where there was still a hierarchical organization of the economy but now party officials were in charge of meeting quotas set by the party.
I dont think the leveling off of population is due to the "carrying capacity" of the planet - countries that cant supoprt growing pops (like several in Africa) contiue to grow while economuically mature countries (Japan, Germany) have falling populations. the reasons are more about - Women's control of their own lives. the need for children to work on the land, the cost of children for working parents.
The truth of Nihilism is that everything is equally important on a cosmic scale, but that should have no bearing on how you value things for yourself. Also Freidrich's sister was a nazi who took all his work after his death and rewrote it to support the ideology of her personal obsession, Adolf Hitler. That was a thing that copyright law let people do at the time.
People also forget that Nietzsche was an absolutely miserable person. Not exactly the kind of person you want to learn about happiness and meaning from.
Wait, Roe vs wade is a step backwards but then you say "all like is intrinsically valuable" -- If all life is valuable, then the question comes down to when you believe life started.
“There is one good thing about Marx: he was not a Keynesian” ― Murray N Rothbard The corollary of which is: "There is one good thing about Keynes: he was not a Marxist."
I watched the entire episode but I didn't get a simple straightforward answer for how an accountant would reinvent before the job gets abolished by AI..
I think this technological revolution is producing abundance, but it is all going to the rich. I.e. corporations all reporting record profits, vastly overpaid CEOs, the rich reporting huge increase in net worth, while workers haven’t really seen an inflation-adjusted increase in their income in decades. As usual, this is an issue of distribution of power, privilege and wealth. Perhaps instead of growth, we can focus on increase in quality and efficiency in our economy, and increasing equality in our society. If all else fails, eat the rich… they’re just chock full of vitamins. Ah, I think David is now going in this direction, at about 32:00. Good man!
The fact that David got choked up when he was talking about how everyone deserves to feel good is evidence that he is truly a good man. You probably see less than .1% of people that would share this sentiment. The world needs more people that share this sentiment.
Absolutely. Yet his answer & ideas about post-nihilism are still like a pretty rough piece of rock. It could turn out to be a diamond but it could also turn out to be garbage. Perhaps there are some nuggets that could be extracted so it maybe worth digging deeper into broad-complex topics like capitalism, socialism, liberalism, imperialism, anarchism, communism, nihilism, modernism, etc.
No one person can define a philosophy or movement. We can all only contribute. It's up to everyone else to carry the torch if it resonates with them. All I can do is put a name on it, articulate it, and share the idea.
@@user-DongJ in the mean time, just getting taxes right will help solve a bunch of the problems while we figure it out.
1. What is missing from all AI "alignment" discussion is whose world view is going to be the alignment standard? Wokeness, egalitarianism, political theories, individualism, collectivism, responsibility, laws, liberalism, globalization, etc. and even facts and truth, all involve judgements and values.
2. ChatGPT is indeed a word prediction system. What few people understand about LLMs is what drives the predictions. It isn't the previous words per se. Nobody is talking about what is happening between the words in the prompt given to the LLM and the words in the LLM response. Calling LLMs a word prediction system hides the basis for LLM power as well as the real levers for controlling and improving AI.
@@kickingnscreaming I really don't get these discussions, all we need to align is: don't kill humans, etc.
this guy needs more subscribers. he is the master in AI philosophy
i'm blown away by the level of great, thought-provoking content you have treated us to in this video! I am following your ChatGPT novel writing series with great interest. Thank you.
I would imagine you don't know the impact you are making in my life, especially with this video. I've been watching and listening to your UA-cam channel for a few weeks now, going back further and further in your videos to learn more and more from you. I feel like a student again tho I dropped out 15yrs ago and I love it. You've changed my opinions outlooks and revitalized my passion for learning and yearning to help others in learning and understanding everything that I know and in turn what they know, learning individual truths to understand humanity as a whole. Thank you for what you do and what you've done to get here
I wanted to express my appreciation for your work in AI cognitive architectures and NLP. Your insights and expertise have been incredibly valuable to me, and I have been sharing your channel with everyone I meet who is interested in these topics. Your work has helped me realize the power of my own expertise in Mind, Brain, and Education and has inspired me to pursue further research in this field.
Smashing comment. Fortunately/Unfortunately some zealots, fascists, elitists, egotists, oligarchs, kelptocrats, imperialists, etc. are seeing open-source AI as a "double edge sword" that can cut deep into their profits & threaten to destroy the pyramid they have built/guarded. Some may be planning to lobby/influence the leaders to use the courts, thugs, police, lawyers, hackers, media, censorship, regulations, propaganda, etc. to the shape/manipulate such technology to favour them.
You provide so much more than just updates and tricks and how-to's about AI. I respect and appreciate what you bring. I think it's important that we all keep our eyes wide open in these rapidly changing times, and you're doing an excellent job in helping us with that. Keep it up.
Wow you had 5k subscribers only 10 months ago. Congrats on the growth! I'm really hopeful to see what greatness comes out of this community.
Thank you for putting so much research putting these videos together. You’re such a valuable resource to stay up to date with AI 🙏🏼 🤙
Incredible video and great work. Could pick a few holes in it, (ie. regarding creation of content: people will always seek out honesty, humanness and relate-ability, even subconsciously; which AI can possibly mimic but not actually convey) but all in all, this message deserves more listeners. That will come tho, when mainstream awareness kicks in.
PS - Note the choking up moment as a good example (sorry to diminish this moment) AI can possibly never strike a human cord like this because we can relate to its authenticity, differently, through empathy or compassion.
I got to push back a little bit on the emotional intelligence issue because GPT 3 seems to display a significant level of emotional intelligence already, not only presenting a clear understanding of how emotions were but also giving useful output in terms of emotional situations people sometimes get into. There is an example dr. Alan Thompson did where he was talking to instruct to GPT and he was telling a story about how his friend wanted him to come over and pay for a meal to eat and it was funny that GPT was able to understand the Dynamics why that would be an unreasonable proposition.
I'm not sure I understand
@@DaveShap The thing displays impressive levels of emotional intelligence already is what I'm trying to say, what don't you understand?
As GDP measures physical wealth from products and services, we need to measure the human qualities such as empathy so that we can pay more attention to it. Like they say in the business world, "What get measured gets done!". A group of soft skills trainers and tech experts created something called 'World Civility Index' where individuals can participate, part of what you called "pursuit of excellence", a new KPI.
One of the best videos I've seen about this subject so far. Clear, follows a very logical train of thought, and so well explained that I feel confident in sending this to my friends no matter where they are in the political spectrum. Thank you so much. Definitely subscribed
Couldn't agree more! You've neatly synthesized my own feelings on all of this, and now I have a name for it! (and names are powerful)
Because *after* 2000, all the *profit* from the workers' productivity-wait for it-went to the CEOs and to the stock market, not to the workers via *larger* salaries. During the pandemic, folks were able to really *see* and *digest* this (and many other things, George Floyd, Metoo, WHF vs RTO, etc.), and many have left the workforce.
It's insane how much has changed since this video.
Everyone is throwing their untapped AI potential like NVIDIA, ADOBE, and now this AUTO-GPT is taking the net by storm
I'm just coming to these videos and I have to wonder what you guys are thinking about it now.
I talk to the people around me even today, and they mostly don't have a clue what's coming.
I'm pretty excited, but trying to figure out what I'll do once the jobs start really disappearing which is what led me here.
@@tracy419 a lot of people think that universal basic income is a likely part of our future.
I think your intro about taking out adv is one of the most responsible, respectful and honest things I've heard lately. Apreciate that.
33:09 that why we need a mental shift on the way we approach and define jobs or working and the values we give to some type of job.
just a few days before seeing this video i talked about this with my mother and used exactly this phrasing, that people should be considered to generatre value by the pure fact of existence. Funny to see that reflected here. I couldnt agree more we are producing so much wealth it is time see to it that all people can have a decent life without conditions
The A.I revolution has the potential to significantly increase the abundance of resources and labor in the economy, as machines and A.I take on a greater role in production, increasing economic output/GDP by orders of magnitude. However, this also means that human labor may become less necessary, which is why the idea of Universal Basic Income (UBI) is important. With A.I and machines doing much of the work, economic growth may not be as dependent on population growth. If this works out, Humans may be in for a real treat where the economy can function purely off of A.I economic output and we can live in a world where we can have anything and do anything we want without the need to work if we so choose. And I don't think it's too far off!
Wow, great Video David. It went beyond AI and into its future implications and questioned it all again, "Why am I here"? A lot to think about and do.... but hurry up and do so!
So much to do...
As far as Roman grain doles are concnered, I am not sure if that was done so much out of charity or more because hungry people tend to overthrow their rulers.
Yep! That's the point...
47:18 I relate totally to that one, that one of the reason I quite my previous job!
I don’t necessarily agree with absolutely everything you say, but I like your videos and they make me think. Thank you for making them.
As an example, I’m not convinced that your principles for AI alignment are necessarily the best or perfect; they’re not a bad start but they seem imperfect to me. For example, specifying what you mean more accurately. So when you say increase prosperity, perhaps you should instead say, “increase both collective and individual prosperity for all people”. The reason to include individual is so that we don’t take actions that greatly sacrifice some individual to make everyone else a tiny bit more prosperous. Additionally, something should be said about preserving the things that humans value; so don’t increase prosperity at the cost of completely destroying the environment for example. Also something about achieving a balance between the disparate goals so that no single goal comes to dominate the others. Also maybe a “interpret these commands as we would want you to interpret them”. You don’t want a situation where the ASI decides that it gets the most reward by maximizing happiness while sacrificing everything else and so decides to destructively scan and upload all of our brains and then perform the virtual equivalent of placing electrodes into the pleasure centers of all of our brain.
As an aside, is it just me or is there a lot of “popping” in the audio of this particular video? I don’t know if it’s just my phone or whatever or if it’s the video itself. I don’t remember the other videos of yours having that issue.
AI alignment... the simple question is hardly ever answered: alignment with who ? Because that's part of the problem.
David after seeing this video I have so much respect for you! Honestly you are the only youtuber who has really changed my perspective on so many pivotal/topics. Truly great and amazing work you are doing!
This was an excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
"We" are not the problem. "We" are not going to change society by admitting that "we" need to think positive and see the value in eachother. The rules of the game are set by the richest most powerful people, and the game that "we" are forced to play is working to ensure that they get the most and "we" get the least. There is no point discussing a change in cultural perspectives without discussing how to limit the wealth and power of those that are in control so that "we" have a chance at changing the game. Unfortunately, I believe that AI is going to change society far faster than "we" can break the stranglehold that the powerful few has on rigging the game, which just means that AI will be put to work feeding more power and wealth to those in control.
If you want AI to help the people, then we need to focus at least some effort on creating a large scale comprehensive predictive model of society, so that we can test change scenarios and predict how society will evolve. Thinking about changing tax rates or introducing UBI ? - We need to be able to model how that will play out with enough fidelity that we can provide a roadmap for change that can be used to try to counter the deafening chorus of angry voices that will shout down even the slightest suggestion of changing the rules to help the people.
This is internalized nihilism: learned helplessness
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Not what I expected based on the video title. Enjoyed it. Looks like you have a new calling. Good luck as a content creator. I wonder though if the content creator career is not a fad. Maybe combining it with something traditional will be more stable. Guest speaker, book author, coach or teacher, in person if possible comes to mind. Anyway, I liked the Be Kind signoff.
Being a creator is just a means to an end. My primary job is entrepreneur
I cant imagine how "they" were able to treat a genius like you not fairly at your job. Although I feel everything happens for good, your channel is one of the 2-3 channels I regularly check on youtube. Great work.
Just curious- what are the other ones you check out?
Yea, what are the other two? :)
Nietzsche was against nihilism, worth pointing out. His enemies called him a nihilist
this is amazing content. Please keep up the great job
Really good background reading for this is “Poverty, by America” by Matthew Desmond. A big takeaway is that the poor vastly underutilize government handouts, whereas the middle class gets more in tax breaks than they pay in taxes, and never miss a chance to take advantage of a government handout. There’s a lot of propaganda at work that keeps us distracted by pitting us against each other.
Great video. Thank you for the effort put in.
Awesome Rec with David Harvey. Big fan of his work as well as the other Democracy at Work crew.
35:47 believes are often also pushed and entertain for the good and benefits of a group or elite
The red mars / blue mars / green mars sci-fi novels had some interesting commentary where it looked at the progression of the feudal system through to capitalism and how, when the new system was introduced, it kept a little bit of the previous system but introduced some new parts. Just mentioning this re: the closing comments of this video that we need a new moral system.
Great video. As for your "we all deserve to feel good" idea, something to consider is that no successful wisdom tradition that has stood the test of time(religions, stoicism) has recommended us to chase feeling good, with the most trivial explanation for that rationale being how easy it is to spiral into hedonism. In other words, we need to be aware of how counterintuitive the enterprise of feeling good really is and approach it with deep humility and look for lessons all throughout history as we move forward.
The central pursuit of Buddhism is to feel better by accepting and overcoming suffering, so I have to categorically disagree with your assertion.
@@DaveShap I don’t disagree. My point more than anything is to stress the nuanced difference between prioritizing pleasure and minimizing suffering. The reason buddhism uses the language of relieving suffering rather feeling good is that it lends itself much better to making long term decisions that minimize the sum of all pain rather than trying to feel good by doing things that bring you short term pleasure. Anyway this could probably be a long discussion not fit for UA-cam comments. keep up the great work and wishing your channel more success.
@@mentimental the balance might also has something to do with fulfillment which can be achieved through doing things like work or hobby.
Thanks David! Unfortunately the video's audio contains breaks&clicks. I don't know the reasons, but I suspect is not the mic. Maybe the video recording sw (see your pc windows status)?
What a great video! Thanks David! But can you please fix the scratching cut offs in the audio for the next ones? It was pretty jarring sometimes.
Have you heard about Self-Determination Theory (SDT)? It describes self-determination, social acceptance and competence as three basic human needs, that also balance out nicely our goal seeking behavior between doing what we like, doing what others like and being good at what we do. Might also work for AI.
I wouldn't use SDT as objective functions for AI.
39:24 we have even added it in the definition of the metrics for happiness, who radically changed the top tier of happiest country or cultures
It was one of Andrew Yang's proposals: change the countries metrics and we can work toward making them better for everyone
Thank you a lot for this video! So many important things said outloud. Some of our living habits are based on a hunch of very old principles like hierarchy, shortage, survival. It's time to switch to the new models of transparency, flexibility and wellbeing imo.
Really good presentation watched it all the way, just be aware of sound clipping and sound defects. I was thinking it was my headphones, but it was the audio.
Yeah it was Nvidia Broadcast. Fixed it in future episodes
Dude, this is great! I’m with you… we a new moral - economic framework to deal with all we’ve going through and we need more people with your mindset. Thanks for putting this out!
I agree with you but it won't work in the current environment. Why ?
It require people who care about society, democracy, family and human values. All those "values" are currently under attack by neo-feudalists who meet each year in Davos or in one of those WEF conferences, so called 1% crowd.
They want companies to replace governments and cut freedoms we enjoy only so they can survive and thrive like some giant parasites.
If you look at society right now you will observe highest ever political polarization, not just in US but in the whole world.
This is the result of decades of gov. corruption, crony capitalism (I am libertarian so don't call me socialist or whatever) and completely broken education system which is now overrun by ultra radical Marxists (just go to any university and see what rubbish they teach).
There is no way out of it. We just need to accept what we have and try to sail through it while trying to self-improve. Is there any other option ? I think not.
By the way, I am also part of Great Resignation. Well not fully, but I switched to part-time after realizing my free time is the most precious thing I have.
Just...thank you. And...yes, You are, I just felt it
Great video! Yes please, I would like a video on reinforced learning with human feedback :)
Hyper abundance (i.e. all goods services at extremely cheap prices vs. incomes) can only come about in nation states where the government doesn't massively debase the currency as a response to huge deflation from AI. I can see few if any nation states responding in this way. High levels of deflation would also result in a crisis as the liability (debt) increases in value and can't be paid back.
Lets say cost of electronics, higher education, housing, transportation drops 90% - the government can use that deflation to print money to maintain their target 2% inflation (i.e. it's not hyper abundance, all efficiency gains are absorbed by the government politicians with their pet schemes to win elections - UBI, white elephant infrastructure projects etc.). It all simply provides cover for the government to print more money.
Funny, I opened the comments solely to say this very thing. Now I'm doubly convinced that I'm on board with this man.
Can you please make a video on using LLM's to answer questions on RDF/XML formatted knowledge graphs like the Arts and Architecture thesaurus?
Hi David, great video! The book you mentioned - is it "Do Nothing" by Celeste Headlee or "Do Nothing" by Damian Mark Smyth or "Do Nothing" by Keith Murningham?
Celeste Headlee
very thought provoking, thank you! 👍👍
Maybe in farming, things could be decentralised with the aid of new technologies, provided authorities allow micro producers to connect to markets.
A fantastic video! Thanks for your hard work!
Incredible video my friend, I'm starting an UA-cam channel in Brazil, the focus isn't about just AI, but frequently I will talk about it.
Your video gave me chills, I started studying AI and realizing these problems we are having and will have, the thing that most hit me was about the work force that can be automated, I had my own statistics about, and it was below 50% (between 40% to 50%) this is really alarming, if we don't have jobs, how money will circulate in the economy? How can you buy something if you don't have enough even to eat? How companies will profit if there's less and less money circulating? Capitalism is going to shoot his own foot with AI, not that I'm a "primitivist" or something like that 😅, AI is the future, but this kind of step for humanity is going to be problematic if we don't take care.
Thanks for the video, for now on I will be watching your content.
i think its more simple and ironicly more complicated, economy circulate with or without, demand offer, rarity, more less work, if 20 billions human cant eat and rich ceo employe for very cheap cause automation competition, i dont think economy care about circulating or not, its more about offer and demand and rarity.
cans of beans high offer low demande : eat cheap. air water is free. people want sportcars and traveling every years maybe is the economic problem, and not eating beans and working 20 hours and not fall for the 80 hour circle pit of debth for luxury we dont have time to enjoy
but im ranting hehe
For reference: unemployment during the great depression was only 25%
Excellent video! Very well explained. My question is: How do you avoid too much centralized power when the government is effectively controlling the finances of over half the population and extensively taxing the other half to make it possible to do so? The balance between individual liberty and beurocratic tyranny becomes incredibly difficult to find..
Redistribution has to be performed by the most powerful entity - federal government. So that means we need stronger democratic institutions so that it is more responsive to the will of the people (while also remaining stable and robust).
Amen brother! We should all be entrepreneurs.
"like working with a toddler who knows everything", love that quote. :D
18:32 but the economy growth is not equally redistributed partially because of corporate growth and other societal issues. That the part economist don’t necessarily take in consideration (intentionally or not) in they conclusion
Hello David, I'd be interested in seeing what areas will be impacted in the near to immediate future.
In the weeks after ChatGPT made waves, there were videos made describing going to websites that doled out copywriting jobs, and then also pointed to websites such as Chat ai that would write the copy for those freelance copywriting jobs.
I would imagine that the payout for those copywriting jobs would be dropping overnight.
What jobs will be the first to be hit in the coming months, and then in the next year to two years? And what new categories of jobs (if one is to dream) might be springing up.
And could this content be aimed at people who are either looking for work, or are thinking about changing career directions to something with more security.
25:11 CEO and other Cx level salary on the other hand haven’t stop going up!
David AI will accelerate nuclear fusion discovery. Once we reach that we will have unlimited energy source. Desalination of water. Indoor aquaponics in city will all be economically feasible to scale. Plus AI education is going to lead to a more ethical generation. Also think about the creative force AI will release in poor countries.
Greeting. I think that you miss a very important point : all these machines cannot exist without hydrocarbons. All our world (essentialy : economy) is related to that : women at work, population growth, unlimited expansion, technology, etc. The other problem : liberal economy (ex. Adam Smith, J-B Say) are based on two huge omission : unlimited raw ressources and energy, and no consideration for the consequence (ex. pollution). For the part concerning IA, i totally agree with you.
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I just found this channel. Nice videos.
7:51 actually it would be very good if you would do some kind of video on this topic. For example summarising those approaches and giving real life example of applying and comparing this to just brain in the jar approach
What do you mean exactly? How to do integrations?
@@DaveShap well, I have no idea about that, but as you mentioned some people are doing it. Just like showing their approaches on connecting GPT to the internet.
@@DaveShap I'd also be really interested in seeing the approaches people have taken so far in integrating GPT with the internet. I haven't seen any examples of people doing that.
I had started making custom GPT’s. I found it amazing however, I did find open AI environment to be a little bit restrictive. I’m hearing about grok and Azure and all these other things but I have no idea which one would be best for someone that wanted to design on top of it.
There is no way to quantify carrying capacity at the same time, we have a system that needs constant consumption, the only kind of number one may get are those of how long can we burn through some resources instead of how much do we actually need.
Wow, this is a great video!
Short term it’s going to be really rough for a lot of people. Lots of political and cultural upheaval. Long term universal basic income or some derivative and all human labor is optional. Human immortality will be a thing.
much love. geeeeeeez its insane.
Love the postnihilism, but I think I’m a postnihilistic cynic. Everyone is valuable, but in the aggregate we seem to have pulled off the amazing trick of being less than the sum of our parts. This is of course because the exploiters have been allowed to hit way above their weight. But you do give me hope. I too, especially as I get older, can get choked up over demonstrations of a potentially kinder and gentler world. It must mean something that doing a good deed makes us feel so good. This must be an indicator of evolutionary fitness value, which we ignore at our peril. Wonderful video David!
Depends on what you're optimizing for. Part of Postnihilism is changing that
Hey Dave, thanks for making the video. Do you know if we are able to take the fine-tuned model we create and embed it on the frontend of a site, to make a niche-specific name generator, for example, for users to use - or can that only be done with an OpenAI standard model, such as Davinci-003? (I remember you mentioned in one of your vids that individual models are not able to be shared - is my example what was meant by that?)
Very interesting video. Thanks
One thousand likes. Great message.
I have a question, if I want to train an open-source pre trained model (like BLOOM) on a corpus of data, how do I do it?
I appreciate your videos and this analysis, but I think in the last slides you gave in to the temptation of providing an "easy explanation" with redistribution, which in my opinion doesn't explain why we all have this feeling that the great technological progress hasn't brought the era of abundance we would expect.
I will try to provide another explanation: the exceptional growth of well-being has been captured mostly by a single progress: having a huge class of people, the elderly, who live without working (I want to clarify that in no way do I want to suggest that the elderly are "useless" or "harmful"). If in the charts you introduce the proportion of people who have stopped working, you can see that the hours of work per capita have actually dropped a lot, simply this happens in an asynchronous way, concentrating all the work before and zeroing it after.
Technological progress has almost always turned into economic goods or services that are free for everyone, the reason why having Google and Facebook doesn't make us live so well is not because the profits of Google and Facebook are not distributed. The solution to this is not more redistribution (in Europe the tax is at 50% but the situation is not better), but more technological progress.
All of this makes total sense and I fully agree with everything you've said. Unfortunately, the egg-heads that govern us have zero understanding of these issues and are caught in a tight net of individualism, tribalism and corruption (not to mention religion), so I don't expect much from them. I mean, the world WITHOUT ai was already a hot mess that didn't work for a large percentage of the population.
As an officially categorized "senior citizen" I'm willing to spend a couple of thousand dollars for a robot nanny. The acid test is that it can clean my toilets, make my bed, clean my house and mow my lawn as effectively as I can.
We should talk about demographics too.. human touch for care and family will be needed and should be rewarded in grain ;)
22:09 Let's put a time reference here, just if anyone would like to watch this important part of the video ;)
Bravo! Excellent video
31:56 that a good question
Agricultural revolution came before industrial revolution.
Humans moving from a hunter gatherer lifestyle to growing crops in one place and managing farm animals was the agricultural revolution. Using industrial machines to enhance agriculture is just a part of the industrial revolution
I say this jokingly, but it fits with what you mentioned about Nihilism. Remember the German Nihilists in the film The Big Lebowski? They claimed to believe in nothing, to care about nothing, but the single thing that motivates all their actions throughout the movie is a criminal get-rich-quick scheme that involves mutilating one of the conspirators. As you suggested, it seems that a childish self-indulgence can sit at the core of Nihilism, one that's often soothed by the instant gratification money can bring.
Thanks Scott Cook
I had a talk in my family and we all agree that ai will have a significant role in our lives. But that depends on to which generation you belong. There are different implications. Our fear is that the wealth profits and efficiency gains will not be distributed to all human Kind fairly. There will be a big cohort of losers and a tiny tiny fraction of man kind who gets all. Do I or my kids want to live in that future? What can we do about that?
Basic income for everyone without working?
@@eliah_B it will probably be like minimum wage
Hey David Shapiro, you had a spiritual awakening! Guess what. There are many others of us who have had a similar awakening recently. It's part of our collective consciousness. And we are arriving at this awakening now. Why,? Because there's something big on the horizon and our collective consciousness intuitively realizes this. Is "something big" AI? Most likely. This will change everything. But really, when fear is gone we will all change. Ever since the dawn of human beings, we have been in survival mode and that could change soon. I even tried to make my comments free of offensive allusions. Oh and I'm glad you are available on UA-cam to watch.
Good talk but the bit at the end, marxism and socialism are not about central control. Marxism analyses historical development through the lens of materialism and socialism encompasses many things but the central tenet is the collective ownership of means of production instead private ownership. What you describe is Marxism-Lenininsm (aka the ideology of Soviet Union and many other "socialist" republics) which many consider the perversion of socialism because instead of workers the capitalist was replaced by a government beauracrat as the decision maker, which often (as you mentioned) lead to disastrous results.
David, I would just encourage you to read Capital. What you're describing, sounds close to a pure Marxist conception of Communism. Marx actually extold the virtue of personal property "e.i. your house." But differentiated private property is property owned by rent seekers. (A factory, or a landlord's property).
The Soviet Union didn't practice a Marxist form of communism. Would they practice with something closer to State capitalism. Where there was still a hierarchical organization of the economy but now party officials were in charge of meeting quotas set by the party.
Nah. I'm not recommending a classless, stateless society. I'm just recommending redistribution of surplus within the framework of neoliberalism.
There's something wrong with audio...
I dont think the leveling off of population is due to the "carrying capacity" of the planet - countries that cant supoprt growing pops (like several in Africa) contiue to grow while economuically mature countries (Japan, Germany) have falling populations. the reasons are more about - Women's control of their own lives. the need for children to work on the land, the cost of children for working parents.
The truth of Nihilism is that everything is equally important on a cosmic scale, but that should have no bearing on how you value things for yourself.
Also Freidrich's sister was a nazi who took all his work after his death and rewrote it to support the ideology of her personal obsession, Adolf Hitler.
That was a thing that copyright law let people do at the time.
People also forget that Nietzsche was an absolutely miserable person. Not exactly the kind of person you want to learn about happiness and meaning from.
Very interesting, but what is going on with the audio?
Wait, Roe vs wade is a step backwards but then you say "all like is intrinsically valuable" -- If all life is valuable, then the question comes down to when you believe life started.
That's a red herring bro.
“There is one good thing about Marx: he was not a Keynesian” ― Murray N Rothbard
The corollary of which is: "There is one good thing about Keynes: he was not a Marxist."
50:59 good point!
I want to go to school for comp sci. Seems like a risky investment at this point
I think most people in most professions share that sentiment.
I watched the entire episode but I didn't get a simple straightforward answer for how an accountant would reinvent before the job gets abolished by AI..
I think this technological revolution is producing abundance, but it is all going to the rich. I.e. corporations all reporting record profits, vastly overpaid CEOs, the rich reporting huge increase in net worth, while workers haven’t really seen an inflation-adjusted increase in their income in decades. As usual, this is an issue of distribution of power, privilege and wealth. Perhaps instead of growth, we can focus on increase in quality and efficiency in our economy, and increasing equality in our society. If all else fails, eat the rich… they’re just chock full of vitamins. Ah, I think David is now going in this direction, at about 32:00. Good man!