Taylor Guitars Builder's Edition Comparison K24CE vs K14CE vs 614CE vs 517E vs 717E which one wins?!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2019
- Taylor Guitars first unveiled the Builder's Edition with last years K14ce Builder's Edition. That guitar showcased the new V-class bracing and a host of other features introduced to make sure guitar ergonomically comfortable to play. The range then expanded to include the 614ce Builder's Edition with the same features but with Torrefied Sitka Spruce and Maple instead of the Torrefied Sitka Spruce and Koa on the K14ce BE. When the Grand Pacific was unveiled in January of 2019, the new body shape was made available in three models, two of which were only done as Builder's Edition guitars - the 517 and 717 models. These guitars made it clear that the Builder's Edition represented Andy Power's "Director's Cut" guitars. The Grand Auditorium models feature: a beveled armrest, beveled and contoured cutaway, chamfered binding (rounded off) and silent satin finish. The Grand Pacific models feature: chamfered binding, soft neck heal, compound neck carve, softened wing bridge, and silent satin finish. The newest model to join the ranks is the drop dead gorgeous K24ce Builder's Edition. With the growing line of these guitars we felt it was time to dive into the nuanced differences in features and tone that is available. So listen closely and see which one is right for you!
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k14ce of course:) back and sides koa and torrified sitka spruce top for sweet balanced, "record ready" sound...magical wood combination!
STRUMMING:
11:44 614ce BE
12:18 k14ce BE
12:54 k24ce BE
13:31 517ce BE
14:05 717ce BE
PICKING:
14:39 614ce BE
15:46 k14ce BE
16:55 k24ce BE
18:02 517ce BE
19:06 717ce BE
I love these reviews, great info, playing, attitude. Thanks for these!
Mate, you make incredible reviews. So much detail, really well explained and great playing. Exactly what I need from a review. Keep it up my dude
All wonderfully crafted guitars but the 517ce and the K24ce sounds the most balanced and to me and that koa on the K24ce... gosh!! Has just left me speechless...well done Taylor Guitar and thank you Alamo Music. Keep it coming!
Love seeing these compared. I have the K14CE Builder's Edition. Love it! Would really like to see you do a Taylor Factory Tour that focuses on how one or more of the Builders' Editions get made and the additional work that goes into them.
Chris nice videos I love Taylor guitars I have the 214ce deluxe grand auditorium love it
Thanks for the review😍love it🤟
I really like your videos! Very well put together, concise, and informative. I also thought it was gracious of you to mention supporting our local dealers. It makes me want to buy from YOU all the more. I would love the opportunity to talk to you about my thoughts on picking the model that's right for me. Is that possible? It's very hard to find local resources that are as well informed as you on these instruments. Many don't carry large inventory, and your basically stuck buying the one off the shelf if you want one. Thanks again for your great video! Really liking the balance of the 614. Sometimes the low end can be overbearing on the others when in context with a band. High pass filtering is usually necessary.
Love my Taylors: I have two(2): '97 814C(K&K equipped) and '96 555(K&K equipped), but love to look and hear the new ones. Thanks.
Man, great communications skills in this video. A+! :D
You guys have upped your camera and mic game. Nice work.
One of the best UA-cam videos I've ever watched. My favorite is the K24ce.
They all sound great, but for me the winner is the 717.
I love this channel and they look beautiful
Love the channel, thanks. Still saving
That's one of the most beautiful sounding/looking guitar I've ever seen!
For me, by far, for fingerpicking, k14ce. Very balanced, open, rich sound. And it is a beautiful and very comfortable one. K24 is certainly the most beautiful, but to much sustain on bass strings which results in a darker sound. So I would choice K14. Thank you for these very helpfull comparaison.
k14ce is nice, but it's sooo quiet. I didn't realise just how quiet it was until I got GT urban ash and compared them.
Wow, they all sound good. Would be overwhelmed as to which one to buy. Probably buy all of them if I had the money!!
The K24 is absolutely a beautiful guitar..I absolutely want it! It sounds incredible!
It really is!
I recently purchased an 814ce with the radiused armrest. Thought it was Builders Edition, but it wasn't, so I returned it and ordered a 614ce Builders Edition, which arrived today. The tone of the 814ce was very nice, but sounded very similar to the 314ce I used to own. The 614ce tone sounds balanced across the spectrum, with clear note definition whether it's played lightly or hard. Wife got the BT1 for $99.
Fair winds and following seas to all.
Just played a 614ce: this evaluation is truth to my ears. The koa is great but the brightness cancels out some subtleties
@@smithjeff3002 👍
I loved this video covering the various BE’s. Thank you! All offered something different, all great in their own right.
I picked up a used K14CE builders edition a year and a half ago. One owner, bought and sold back to the same shop. It was in fantastic shape, just a little area of shine where the picking hand rubbed the satin finish to a glossier one. But, it was 3/5th the cost that sold for new, 9 months earlier, and the Koa had opened up a lot. I love it and can’t imagine feeling luckier to own another acoustic guitar in my lifetime. It sounds and plays like a dream.
Do you still have the same guitar? How does it play now?
@@KL-ps6pp I do, and it plays great. I am a huge fan of the the look and sound of this one. It’s just perfect for me.
At this time there were only three Grand Pacific body shapes available. While the 517 and 717 we're both Builder's Editions, there was also a 317. Shortly after that the 327 was introduced. The 300 series Grand Pacific didn't have champfered edges or contoured bridges. The 300 series also had standard neck instead of the compound neck.
Great analysis and discussion, beautiful axes. And nice playing, sir! "The best guitar is the one you're making music on.!"
Can you play us some stuff higher up the neck as we can hear that improved intonation? Por favor
i have only one question about the v class ..Can lr bqggs anthem pick up can fit into taylors new v brace?🤔
I love the sound of the K24ce and the 717ce....all gorgeous and beautiful sound. One more thing, the second examples you play a slower song, very articulating....What is the name of that song? Thank you.
What is the fingerstyle piece that you play in your videos? I've seen you play it several times in other videos and I always come away wondering what that beautiful song is.
k14ce: lead guitar w mids and bright tones pushed forward
k24ce: rhythm guitar w bass and fuller sound to fill the sonic space
I currently own the k14ce. Great guitar.
Listening to this video i really like the sound of the k24ce. Very big transparent sound. I record allot so wondering how that k24ce sound would hold up in a mix in various styles of music. Would really like to hear any comments of experience with this. Thanks for the video.
I just picked it up today...coming from a 324ce and to me it has the warm quality that I love in the 324ce but is a bit fuller and a touch brighter, the rest comes in the form of physical features which are on another level entirely. What styles of music are we talking? I made the decision on the 324ce that I could play traditional country tunes to rock songs...to me the K24ce will perform even better in that regard due to the brightness. I noticed today as I was running it through its paces, it lends itself well to drop D tuning. YMMV!
OK... I love that mahogany GP. Maybe my favorite. Has the depth in the bass that V class is overall missing. Mic placement was very consistent on all guitars Except the 717ce GP so that one is out of the picture which is too bad because it´s so unique in the bunch. It would be great to do a comparison of all these guitars after a year or 2 of consistent playing when Koa opens up a bit and mellows out giving better lows.
Tried to move as little as possible when changing guitars. Must have missed the mark on the last one. - Chris
My K24ce BE open E string fretted G is also muted same as yours compared to all the other fretted notes around it. Little disappointing but hopefully with extended use it will open up and ring a little more.
Every single one of these Guitars are incredible BUT for different reasons...as a player you have to sit with the one or a couple of them and A:B them. Its the only way....I went K24ce today and I am in the clouds at owning such a piece of art that warms my soul.
Chris do you think the v class is a gimmick or here to stay for ever? I really like the 717e because I own a 324ce. So I have that dark wood style guitar. I also have a Koa mini. So I want to get a Sitka spruce top and that 717e sounds amazing. However there is the 614ce and that whole line of 14 series. I’m not a big guy with huge hands do you think that matters if I go with the 717e? Honestly I was all set to get a completely different brand and get the Martin HD 28 but I have been talked out of that by so many people that have said no way get the Taylor again because they just don’t sound so boxy and muffled. So now it’s between the 14 series starting with 414ce on up or do I go for the 717e builders edition. Thanks!!! Ryan :)
The 614CE is now my main axe. I love it. Played and considered all of the above, but instantly knew the 614CE was for me. At this level, its all a matter of taste - they are all great. I just preferred the tone and feel of the 614CE BE.
@the supernatural Its very balanced. X brace purists say that the new v class is thinner, but I just can't see that at all. The v class gives such clarity. That said, its not a booming bass. I have a '73 Guild D40 that is bass beast and I use that when I want big bass. But I've not played a more balanced guitar its not heavy low or heavy high end, just even throughout. Plays like dream.
Is it possible to have a glossy finish builders edition?
Not related to this video, but do you happen to know how long it takes for a TALOR GS MINI-E KOA to fully mature in tone?
Depends on how hard you play it, and how often. A few weeks of play, with a couple hours a week of heavier strumming should do it.
Why is the strap button on the back only on ‘builder’s edition’ models? I think that’s really weird. I own a Taylor myself, and I had to move the strap button to the back because it was constantly interfering with my playing. It should be standard on all Taylor guitars. Like you said, it gets in the way when your hand moves up the neck.
Hi Chris, what are your thoughts on the k24ce BE action. I have one and the guitar needed some serious work to improve it here in AUS. Shipped directly from teh US in Dec '19. Many thanks.
Played one before, it's one of the nicest feeling guitar I've played in a while even compared to some other Taylors and Martins I owned (PS14ce, 614ce BE, 000-42 etc.) I tried quite a few Lowdens, Santa Cruz, Goodall, Kevin Ryan etc, and would honestly choose the Taylor k24ce BE value-wise. It's a very beautiful, great feeling and sounding guitar for the price if you compare them to Lowdens, Santa Cruz etc. Shipping a guitar over long distance like that may affect the guitar greatly (set up, wood, strings etc). I'd say check the neck if it's still straight, check the action, stretch out the strings a bit and give the guitar a bit of a break-in period. It usually will make the experience much better. I hope this helps.
@@davidtirtha5858 Thank you David, I had it set up and its much better and an absolute pleasure to play. It is a beautiful guitar.
Thank again!
I love my 816ce BE and 912 ce BE
Do a lesson on how to play that cool lick!
I love them all the 614ce and the 517 is my pick but actually I want everyone of them already have five Taylor's 614ce 814ce dlx v brace 816ce 914ce and baby taylor and martin d28 I bought all guitars brand new except the d28 my next guitar is gonna be 517
Mark Staggs Hello mate, I live outside the US and will probably visit sometime and get me a nice guitar. If you needed to choose btw the 614ce be and the martin d28 (I know they are different purposes) which would you buy? The looks on the 614cebe just keeps making me choose it over the d28 (without having played any of them). Thanks!
I’d like this one in the future...or the regular K24ce or the 814ce DLX (sunburst?) 😜😂😂
They have very different tonal properties since they use different tone-woods. K24ce are all Koa which have a very nice, focussed and clear note clarity and separation. It also have a natural compression coming from the Koa and the gloss finish (I feel that gloss finish adds some natural compression to any guitars since it prevents the wood to vibrate as much). The 814ce DLX have a sound that is what a typical rosewood guitar. Strong attack and have a bit of growl with a slightly scooped midrange. Might be overpowering to some. Both guitar is great, but I appreciate the arm-rest bevel on the 814ce DLX that the regular k24ce don't have. Taylor recently has been offering k24ce DLX that got an arm-rest bevel so I would say check those out as well. Hope this helps.
I own a 614ce Builders Edition so it was very interesting to hear it’s tone compared to the other models, listening through very high quality headphones. What guitar is best for anyone certainly depends on the type of music we play and our expectations. I play mostly finger style so the second demo song was what matched my type of playing style more closely. I found the 614 to be a bit brighter with a tighter bass response, less warm than most of the others, especially the Grand Pacific models. If I had to do it all over again I would still choose the 614 for clarity and response for finger style.
Typically I’m a mahogany guy but were i In the market for a builders addition I would go for the Maple it’s just so cool .
It’s not that I like it better then rosewood or mahogany but it’s different. Then the usual and different is good
Man we need them tabs!
Do you think a thinner finish has an adverse effect in colder climates?
I have the Taylor GS-mini-e Koa which has the thinner finish and today it is a balmy 22 degrees, thankfully, I never have had a problem. I have always monitored the humidity levels in my music room and when I am done playing any of my guitars for the day, I place them back in their cases. Within each case I also monitor the humidity levels because when the heat is on and/or the fireplace is going in my home I am careful to maintain the appropriate humidity. But like I said, my Taylor is doing great (Thank goodness).
K14ce for sound, K24ce for looks. The looks of the K24ce might quite possibly sway me to favor it if pushed simply because the sound was not objectionable and esthetics matter a lot to me.
614ce best looking, 717e best sounding.
How does the Taylor 614 compare with the Avalon A1 10 please?
Love the K24 but only playing for a year and it just seems too nice looking for a beginner to play.
a k24 will inspire you to get better. get one!
I agree with the other comment. If you can afford a nice guitar it will encourage you to play more often and get better. So many people give up because of cheaper/poorly built guitars. With that being said we are living in the golden age of well made affordable guitars, but it is always more inspiring to buy the absolute best guitar you can afford.
Additionally, don’t ever convince yourself that you are good enough for the guitar you really want. However, no matter how much you like a particular guitar if it does not feel good AND sound good to you walk away and find something else, but it is pure magic when you find the guitar that feels great, sounds great, and looks amazing too.
I'll never understand the whole "Beginners shouldn't have nice guitars" thing.
K24 wins hands down
They all win in my opinion if you can shell 🐚 out that kinda money they all must be good
717ce to me sounded the best. 2nd is the K24.
11:41 12:14 12:51 13:26 14:03
Lovely guitars but all a bit out of my price range . Still Taylor deserves credit for pushing the boundaries . Also I’m a satin finish kind of guy I own a 324 and 254ce both with a satan finish . I sold pianos many years ago gloss pianos were bought by interior decorators but musician always picked satin . Perhaps that has influenced my perspective
Really interesting! Thanks for sharing!
There is no winner here, these are all marvelous instruments with their own character … need all of them really … ;-)
K14ce for me.
Are you related to Andy McKee?
Yes - distantly. - Chris
I noticed the similarity, not only in the name but you do look a. It like him. I’ve ordered the K24. Can’t want to get it!
Surely there is a Grand Pacific 317, which is not a builders edition?
Yep, the 317 is a Grand Pacific but is not a Builder’s Edition. - Chris
what? I really wanted to see what people thought on the comments and... I am the first comment!!!?? That´s a first... Anyways, I´ll watch the whole thing and see what I think then.
Which sounds best is subjective, so in my case the K14 takes the prize.
For me K24ce has a richer deeper sound.
Totally agree!
717
Definettely, the K14ce wins.
514 is the best guitar taylor. But the best guitar in the world is martin D 28
I found the K14ce to be brighter than the K14ce. That's my choice.
Ham ham ham ham ham. Ham. Ham.
Beautiful guitars. But hate the Taylor thin sound. .... so ergonomic...but when I buy a guitar I look for tone. Rounded shapes dont impress me. If you think holding a guitar is painfull and uncomfortable, try saxophone or cello... To be honnest, the homerun in tonewood production guitars is the Yamaha FG 5 serie. No bullshit or extravaganza, just tone.
Now, V shape bracing. It's new. True, but not revolutionnary like martin x bracing. Which is still and will remain the standard. Why ? Because of the bottom end response it brought in lutherie.
Sorry. Like I said. Beautiful guitar, excellent craftmanship, but it still sound like a Taylor. 🤷🏻♂️