DJ Kevgeez Never watched Basketball. Wade had the greatest finals performance in history in just his third year in the league. Melo however couldn’t get to the finals even with stacked teams. Don’t give me the conference bullshit when the Pistons, Cavs, and Orlando were consistently amazing teams.
to be fair, Larry Brown *HATED* playing rookies, and he was gunning for a chip in 04 so Melo would have been the 12th man on that roster and coach knew he would be a distraction. Therefore they picked the player who they thought would contribute 3-5 years down the road...they were hoping for 'Sheed without the attitude, they got Bargnani without a jumper
pogingpogi214 I actually think Darko was a decent player coming out of the draft but the Pistons poorly developed him. I think Larry Brown just stripped him of his confidence.
Greg E To be fair though Larry did play numerous different rookies, and also helped perfecte the game of A.I. while in Philly. And also Larry, and the whole Sixers organization actually now that I think about it straight up got fucked over by the league (we all know how much David Stern would literally sabotage or at least attempt to sabotage anything A.I. was involved with as he hated Allen). A.I. isn't the only person he sabotaged or attempted to sabotage as well, he among many others also did it toT-Mac, Ray Allen etc.
As a diehard Cavs fan, I completely remember the 2003 Draft Lottery. I actually cried when we got the #1 pick and Gordon Gund pulled out the LBJ Cavs jersey!
deontae bryan melo hasn't exactly been a beast in the playoffs now.... overrated asf the pistons played team ball n melo is a ball stopper n he played no defense
Zionjrpro the best rookie of the Year added to the conference champs that went to 7 games would of been a big difference for that seires . Melo didn't iso in the beginning of his career. He was faster and more athletic . He took Denver from 17 wins to 49 .
Zionjrpro remember the most Success Melo had was with Chauncey in Denver imagine Melo learning how to play team ball from a Younger Chauncey and That Squad
The second pick really impacted the league for sure. Very unselfish player like who would tell his team that don’t let him play because he will mess up the team chemistry because he’s too good.
They wouldn't even have played Melo cuz they were after rings and didn't want rookies to play minutes. Melo would have gotten fatter faster with Detroit too.
Naw i disagree with that all the way. You must dont remember how good and explosive Melo was coming out of Syracuse. He was unguardable back then. He would've gave Detroit that scoring punch they needed to keep winning rings. Kinda like how KD went to GS and provided them with the scoring they needed to beat the Cavs again.
Yeah but if Menlo went to a team with the pedigree of Detroit at that time he probably would have been a better defensive player and more team orientated he probably would be more on lebrons level. Not equal but a top 3 or 5 player his whole career.
Proof of pat rileys genius. He liked Kaman, but all the people he trusted wanted Wade, and he was smart enough to realize he was wrong. That’s not easy to do
I really hope when these 5 guys all retire they do an open court segment with them and talk about that's it's been like for them since their draft in 03
Darko Milicic was super talented but he had terrible work ethic and he's a bit crazy too, there's an interview in serbian where he says that they partied every day while he was in Detroit, he was drunk every night
@@kingtmg1839 The fact in the 80s most teams gm believes that U need a big man to win a championship plus the Blazers they already had a good sg but the Pistons needed a guy who could score so they really F up that second pick.
@@fliplife67 Melo wouldn't fit into Detroit's defense mentality. And besides, if Detroit didn't pick Darko then they wouldn't have been able to trade midseason to get Rasheed.
Heat were back and forth between Dwade vs Chris Caman?????? You TRULY cannot make this stuff up. How hard it must be to be an NBA front office manager.
Crazy how much this draft shaped the nba for the next decade or so. Also dwade!!!!!!!! My fav player, if my team can’t win a championship then I want wade to win no matter what team he plays for.
2003 also featured : David West, Kirk Hinrich, Kyle Korver, Boris Diaw, Kendrick Perkins, Leandro Barbosa etc. Pretty good bench with Lebron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, West as starters.
No Cappin' You trippin that draft also had Josh Howard, David West, Kirk Hinrich, T.J Ford, Leondra Barbosa, Kendrick Perkins and a few more who weren't Hof players but did good in the league in their own rights.
I Write A Song A Day for real like they’re supposed to be preparing for the future and can’t even watch a little college ball? Wade went deep in the tourney and Melo won the national title for goodness sake
Dwyane Wade is my favorite player because of my Dad. I was watching this draft with him and he said before it started that, "Wade is going to be the best one from this draft" even with all the hype around LeBron. Him being my Dad, I didn't doubt that statement for a second. I believed him. So I started watching Wade and he became my favorite player. And the rest is history.
TopTen Tymes Carmelo could've had a legacy if he made smarter Free Agency decisions. And that Detroit team was very well oiled on both ends of the court... Carmelo playing iso wouldn't have been a good fit.
Carlos Chaves you buggin, that Detroit team had scoring droughts so bad they could've rebuilt the whole city with all those bricks. All they needed was a scorer. He would've been under great tutelage by rick Carlisle, or larry Brown and any immature tendency he had would have been taken care of because they were winning. You sitting here thinking not a good fit because you watch to much espn and don't see the bigger picture. What happened when a older chauncey was traded to denver for iverson? They went from not being able to make it out the first round to pushing kobe and the lakers in the western conference finals.
well dwade is the first player in this draft that goes to the finals before anyone else in this draft and the first who got the first championship. salute to dwade. one of the best SG in the NBA 😎😎
people describing how great the top 5 of this class are, but can we appreciate the Steals in this draft? Kyle Korver in the second round set a record for 3 pt% in a season and became arguably a top 5 3pt shooter. Jose Calderon (undrafted) set the record for best ft% in a season with 98% while being a solid role player in his prime. This draft was definitive for the modern NBA.
4 players impacted teams...Bron revived the cavalier franchise, Wade county was born, Melo made the nuggets extra crispy, and Darko destroyed a potential dynasty. You know Detroit would have won 2 or 3 with him.
This draft was strong at the top with guys like LeBron,Melo,Bosh and Wade but it had many other good players and that also makes this draft a top 2 draft of all times. You have guys like David West who was an all-star with New Orleans, Chris Kaman was a solid center for a bunch of years and also made the all-star team with the Clippers,Kirk Hinrich played on team USA,Josh Howard also another all-star with the Dallas but injures cut his career short. Mo Williams and Kyle Korver also made All-star teams. Boris Diaw,Luke Ridnour,Nick Collison,TJ Ford, Kendrick Perkins,Leandro Barbosa,Carlos Delfino,Steve Blake,Zaza Pachulia, James Jones ( 3x champion with LeBron ),Matt Bonner all had staying power in the NBA and were effective in different way in their pretty long nba careers.
I can’t wait to see the documentary on the Fulz/Ball/Tatum Draft. I need to see how Danny Ainge FLEECED the Sixers into thinking Markelle Fultz was a #1 pick.
2003: #1 pick Hometown kid goes home. 2008: #1 pick Hometown kid goes home. 2018: #1 pick Hometown kid goes home. STOP THE LOTTERY.. it is just another way for the league to control this narrative and rig things to their liking.
Not to nitpick, but how the hell do you justify putting Melo's name in the title next to Lebron's? D-Wade goes on to be one of the five best 2 guards of all time, and he's still the third person people think of whenever that draft class is mentioned.
Wade did play with Shaq Bron Bosh Ray Allen while Melo played with hmmmm NOBODY. Okay I rest my case Lets change the narrative give Melo Shaq Bron Bosh and Ray Allen and lets see how this story would end.
The Heat made the best decision in franchise history
Cj Houston Kobe.
Nomad Black ?
What does Kobe have to do with the Heat
not the sharpest knife on the drawer are you?
Nomad Black no Dwayne wade
This looks like a fun video.... for everyone except Pistons fans.
No
🤣 😂
Lebron and D Wade are the absolute bests from that class
E.D.25 And it's not close
Woah dude that’s such a controversial opinion
Prime Melo>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wade.
lol prime melo never even went to the finals.
DJ Kevgeez Never watched Basketball. Wade had the greatest finals performance in history in just his third year in the league. Melo however couldn’t get to the finals even with stacked teams. Don’t give me the conference bullshit when the Pistons, Cavs, and Orlando were consistently amazing teams.
That 5th pick was very underrated
Ephraim James the goat
Ephraim James wonder why you say that
Big facts
If they had a redo Wade would go number 2.
OkItsJustSean i was about to say that
to be fair, Larry Brown *HATED* playing rookies, and he was gunning for a chip in 04 so Melo would have been the 12th man on that roster and coach knew he would be a distraction. Therefore they picked the player who they thought would contribute 3-5 years down the road...they were hoping for 'Sheed without the attitude, they got Bargnani without a jumper
except Brown has just been hired by detroit around that time and has nothing to do about the draft.
pogingpogi214 I actually think Darko was a decent player coming out of the draft but the Pistons poorly developed him. I think Larry Brown just stripped him of his confidence.
Greg E To be fair though Larry did play numerous different rookies, and also helped perfecte the game of A.I. while in Philly. And also Larry, and the whole Sixers organization actually now that I think about it straight up got fucked over by the league (we all know how much David Stern would literally sabotage or at least attempt to sabotage anything A.I. was involved with as he hated Allen). A.I. isn't the only person he sabotaged or attempted to sabotage as well, he among many others also did it toT-Mac, Ray Allen etc.
Greg E no. you’re wrong. melo was the right choice no matter how delusional your excuses are
@@ajpip9719 No. If Detroit took Melo they wouldn't have been able to pick up Rasheed midseason.
Props to the heat for not picking kaman over wade.
Da caveman was underrated bro. Who doesn't want Board and blocks. to ignite your fast break.
wade brought miami 3 championships. what a beast
noobzzzz correction: shaq and lebron brought championships to the heat. Wade alone just had the heat as playoff contenders
Gio Shaq and LeBron don't go to Miami if Wade is not there.
Bruh. Dwyane averaged like 35 ppg in 2006
As a diehard Cavs fan, I completely remember the 2003 Draft Lottery. I actually cried when we got the #1 pick and Gordon Gund pulled out the LBJ Cavs jersey!
Stupid Detroit. Melo would've helped them win that second championship
Live From The Grave doubt they would still next San antonio
CPGoat #3 who on San Antonio was gonna guard young melo ?
deontae bryan melo hasn't exactly been a beast in the playoffs now.... overrated asf the pistons played team ball n melo is a ball stopper n he played no defense
Zionjrpro the best rookie of the Year added to the conference champs that went to 7 games would of been a big difference for that seires . Melo didn't iso in the beginning of his career. He was faster and more athletic . He took Denver from 17 wins to 49 .
Zionjrpro remember the most Success Melo had was with Chauncey in Denver imagine Melo learning how to play team ball from a Younger Chauncey and That Squad
As a piston fan, my heart breaks every time I hear Darko’s name.
This is a wave of nostalgia and emotions, so legendary...just wow
This video clip has appeared so many times over the past 5 years. This was a great draft.
Moral of the story: Always bet on black
Kyle Wowry L....look at what it got the raptors SWEEPS LOL
Auc 2.0 They were gonna get swept regardless, so... L
Jon155 L... for liking your own comment
LOL, no the moral of the story is. Do not draft based on needs, draft based on potential talent
Auc 2.0 yea vs lbj which is black lol
The second pick really impacted the league for sure. Very unselfish player like who would tell his team that don’t let him play because he will mess up the team chemistry because he’s too good.
Michael D I mean can you tell or not? If not then it’s either you’re dumb or can’t take a damn joke lmfao smh
*whoosh* xD
@@digitalgravity3563 😂😂😂
Detroit would've had won 2 more rings with Melo. His scoring with that defensive team would've been tough!
They wouldn't even have played Melo cuz they were after rings and didn't want rookies to play minutes. Melo would have gotten fatter faster with Detroit too.
Naw i disagree with that all the way. You must dont remember how good and explosive Melo was coming out of Syracuse. He was unguardable back then. He would've gave Detroit that scoring punch they needed to keep winning rings. Kinda like how KD went to GS and provided them with the scoring they needed to beat the Cavs again.
MrPeazy10 the problem wasn't Melo. It was Detroit, they were on a championship run and they wouldn't play a rookoe
The next time Melo makes a defensive play will be the first. That mentality would not have flown in Det.
Yeah but if Menlo went to a team with the pedigree of Detroit at that time he probably would have been a better defensive player and more team orientated he probably would be more on lebrons level. Not equal but a top 3 or 5 player his whole career.
15 years, 3 championships later, Miami is the biggest winner of this draft. Can thank DWade now
And Cleveland for sucking and LeBron wanting to leave for Miami.
Proof of pat rileys genius. He liked Kaman, but all the people he trusted wanted Wade, and he was smart enough to realize he was wrong. That’s not easy to do
Prime Wade>>>>Prime Melo
We all know that lol
Prime Wade cant stand next to Prime Melo Prime Melo was unguardable literally
@@AcesBeatz Wrong
@Robert Phillips uhm, the 2013 MVP voting?? Melo was the only reason Lebron didn't get the unanimous MVP
FrBlank smh niggas need to get they knowledge up
I really hope when these 5 guys all retire they do an open court segment with them and talk about that's it's been like for them since their draft in 03
Best Draft Class Of All Time.
PG: Bron
SG: Dwade
SF: Melo
PF: Chirs Bosh
C : Shit Chirs Would Do
Only two got rings lol
^chris
I take the 96 draft class
Pg: Nash or Allen Iverson
SG: Kobe or ray allen
Sf:peja stojakovic
Pf jermaine oneal
C: ilgauskas
AMac/ Rain how u spell chris wrong twice
grandmaster3211 ben wallace> Big z
Darko Milicic was super talented but he had terrible work ethic and he's a bit crazy too, there's an interview in serbian where he says that they partied every day while he was in Detroit, he was drunk every night
Don't blame him no playing time LMAO 😂
They were a championship team,they didn't have time to developed a rookie
One of best drafts in my opinion besides ‘84 & ‘96 NBA Drafts
that lottery was rigged af lmao
Dude the majority of the lottery’s are rigged 😂😂
Kai Black pretty much
Which lottery isn’t rigged 😂
DWYAAAAAAAAANE WAAAAAAAAAAADDDEEE!!!!
another decade ends and this is still one of the best nba drafts we've seen
So we just skipping over bosh huh
You put melo in the title like he's the second best player in the draft....we all know that's wade, then melo then bosh
David Batista melo better than Wade
Bernie Stark's 😂.....you funny
Bernie Stark's your funny dood.
3 rings 1 final mvp and top 50 all time melo aint even near that
Bernie Stark's also 3rd greatest SG and melo aint even top 10 greatest small forward
TheRealM once Melo hit 30K he's probably 10th. There's a bunch of SF to compete with rather than the SG spot
What da hell the Pistons was thinking on passing on Carmelo? I still think this is big bust a second pick in NBA history of the draft.
fliplife67 it's not like they could tell the future. Detroit needed a center, not a power forward. Not all first round draft pics are winners.
R.A. N no it has to be passing on MJ because Hakeem was first pick but he was very good but the second pick didn’t even make an all star team
@@kingtmg1839 The fact in the 80s most teams gm believes that U need a big man to win a championship plus the Blazers they already had a good sg but the Pistons needed a guy who could score so they really F up that second pick.
@@fliplife67 Melo wouldn't fit into Detroit's defense mentality. And besides, if Detroit didn't pick Darko then they wouldn't have been able to trade midseason to get Rasheed.
@@jaranarm I didn't get why they couldn't just trade down.
Heat were back and forth between Dwade vs Chris Caman?????? You TRULY cannot make this stuff up. How hard it must be to be an NBA front office manager.
folumb Well, hindsight is always 20/20
Wade barely had a jumper back then. It's easy for you to talk 15 years later.
@@carloschaves2437 wade was really a good midrange shooter
Plus Pat Loves his Cs
Is LeBron Wade then melo and bosh don’t disrespect Dwayne wade like that in the title
Crazy how much this draft shaped the nba for the next decade or so. Also dwade!!!!!!!! My fav player, if my team can’t win a championship then I want wade to win no matter what team he plays for.
Darko..... Bad memories.....
2003 also featured :
David West, Kirk Hinrich, Kyle Korver, Boris Diaw, Kendrick Perkins, Leandro Barbosa etc. Pretty good bench with Lebron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, West as starters.
Wade!!!!!!
“The cavs won and so did the pistons.”
Man did they blow this draft. Could have gone with pick # 3-5 and not gone wrong.
they did chris bosh dirty
Riyad Khan nobody did anything wrong to Bosh the man had a great career the only thing that fucked him was injuries
Best class ever
Legend Killer some but 17 is the best class ever. Beside Bron, Melo, Bosh, Wade, and maybe Korver it's ass
96 class is the best u casuals
No Cappin' You trippin that draft also had Josh Howard, David West, Kirk Hinrich, T.J Ford, Leondra Barbosa, Kendrick Perkins and a few more who weren't Hof players but did good in the league in their own rights.
Cough cough 1984 and 1996 draft
96 has 3 mvps. The best 3pt shooter of all time before curry came up a DPOTY and 10 all stars all together. 10 all stars > 7 all stars
Imagine if the Heat Drafted Chris Kamen lmfao
Bosh is so underated
Yooo Jerry west was sick when he got that num 2 pick lmao he knew Lebron was gone 😂😂
this was sooooo good!!!!!!
This is why Doncic was soo slept on it’s this stigma of Euro players
Wade is the 2nd best player in the 03 draft
Wade was the first out of the pack to win a championship.
Darko won an NBA Championship in 2004.
Disrespectful too put melos name instead of wade
Legends was drafted in 2003
Greatest NBA draft ever
So they just had no idea who these players even were and basically picked them because of just a few work outs?
I Write A Song A Day for real like they’re supposed to be preparing for the future and can’t even watch a little college ball? Wade went deep in the tourney and Melo won the national title for goodness sake
Christopher they knew melo and lebron
I mean it worked but still ur right
Melo on that Pistons roster would have been insane.
I think Darko would've had a better career if Larry Brown wasnt Detroit's coach at the time
Dwyane Wade is my favorite player because of my Dad. I was watching this draft with him and he said before it started that, "Wade is going to be the best one from this draft" even with all the hype around LeBron. Him being my Dad, I didn't doubt that statement for a second. I believed him. So I started watching Wade and he became my favorite player. And the rest is history.
The goats
The Detroit pistons and joe dumars robbed melo of his legacy and the city of championships.
TopTen Tymes Carmelo could've had a legacy if he made smarter Free Agency decisions. And that Detroit team was very well oiled on both ends of the court... Carmelo playing iso wouldn't have been a good fit.
Carlos Chaves you buggin, that Detroit team had scoring droughts so bad they could've rebuilt the whole city with all those bricks. All they needed was a scorer. He would've been under great tutelage by rick Carlisle, or larry Brown and any immature tendency he had would have been taken care of because they were winning. You sitting here thinking not a good fit because you watch to much espn and don't see the bigger picture. What happened when a older chauncey was traded to denver for iverson? They went from not being able to make it out the first round to pushing kobe and the lakers in the western conference finals.
Karma fell on Detroit pistons this season didn't make the nba bubble playoffs
This was a awesome draft 🙏
Mahn, few years later 3 guys from the same draft class (Lebron1, Bosch4, Wade5) end up together and win two chips. Talk about destiny.
well dwade is the first player in this draft that goes to the finals before anyone else in this draft and the first who got the first championship. salute to dwade. one of the best SG in the NBA 😎😎
Lebron got the last laugh🤔
The goat
Delete the video and reupload with dwades name
Man Pat really loves his big men
Great draft. Was stoked when the Raps drafted Bosh. In hindsight Wade woulda been an even better pick but at least we didn't draft Darko lol.
I graduate from hs in 2023 and finish my first year of college in 2024.... 2024 draft class gonna be the next best class just watch 🤫😏
Fast forward 15 years later in his 16th season 3 rings later hes retiring the greatest heat and 3rd greatest shooting guard of all time
1984 draft class way better , barkley jordan olajuwon and stockton
rick james you on drugs dawg
rick james I think 84 was the best but I don't think it is way better.
don't forget barkley
Detroit made the worst pick ever and the grizzlies are idiots for trading there pick away there pick in the first place smh
The best draft in nba history
Detroit made their decision 8 hr after meeting darko when Melo was rt there rt after a national championship
Best draft class hands down.
then 96 then 84.
people describing how great the top 5 of this class are, but can we appreciate the Steals in this draft? Kyle Korver in the second round set a record for 3 pt% in a season and became arguably a top 5 3pt shooter. Jose Calderon (undrafted) set the record for best ft% in a season with 98% while being a solid role player in his prime. This draft was definitive for the modern NBA.
4 players impacted teams...Bron revived the cavalier franchise, Wade county was born, Melo made the nuggets extra crispy, and Darko destroyed a potential dynasty. You know Detroit would have won 2 or 3 with him.
This draft was strong at the top with guys like LeBron,Melo,Bosh and Wade but it had many other good players and that also makes this draft a top 2 draft of all times. You have guys like David West who was an all-star with New Orleans,
Chris Kaman was a solid center for a bunch of years and also made the all-star team
with the Clippers,Kirk Hinrich played on team USA,Josh Howard also another
all-star with the Dallas but injures cut his career short. Mo Williams and Kyle Korver
also made All-star teams. Boris Diaw,Luke Ridnour,Nick Collison,TJ Ford,
Kendrick Perkins,Leandro Barbosa,Carlos Delfino,Steve Blake,Zaza Pachulia,
James Jones ( 3x champion with LeBron ),Matt Bonner all had staying power in the NBA
and were effective in different way in their pretty long nba careers.
1996 draft was way more impactful on the sport.
Man that trainer Tim Grover really called it, the Heat should really thank that guy
I can’t wait to see the documentary on the Fulz/Ball/Tatum Draft.
I need to see how Danny Ainge FLEECED the Sixers into thinking Markelle Fultz was a #1 pick.
Crazy to think that lebron, bosh, and wade ended up on the same team after all being drafted in the same class year
2003: #1 pick Hometown kid goes home.
2008: #1 pick Hometown kid goes home.
2018: #1 pick Hometown kid goes home.
STOP THE LOTTERY.. it is just another way for the league to control this narrative and rig things to their liking.
ayton is from the bahamas
Melo would’ve had a ring if they picked him over darko SMH #THREEGOLDMEDALS 😂😂😂
wow pistons fans, thank Chris ford for giving you guys Darko lol
The best draft class in NBA history
Melo got robbed of ROTY
Lil Dagga say thing I said
Lil Dagga what lbj was way better and was even injured
Definitely
Facts!
I wouldn’t say he got robbed because it was close but yea he deserved it
It's amazing to think that 3 top 5 picks In the draft would be on the same team tbh. I miss the raptors prime Chris bosh.
Please do one on Marc-Andre Fleury and his draft class
Not to nitpick, but how the hell do you justify putting Melo's name in the title next to Lebron's?
D-Wade goes on to be one of the five best 2 guards of all time, and he's still the third person people think of whenever that draft class is mentioned.
Wade did play with Shaq Bron Bosh Ray Allen while Melo played with hmmmm NOBODY. Okay I rest my case Lets change the narrative give Melo Shaq Bron Bosh and Ray Allen and lets see how this story would end.
College Rookie Championship Winner 💪👊💯 #Melo 🏀
If Detroit would of picked Melo....Melos career would have a a championship
nabil chowdhury but who is Darko???
5:16 the second coming of Wade was watching that kid earlier
Darko I’m dead bruh
Those frosted tips should have been a clue for the pistons.
Darko should be the num. 1 pick .
Affected the league more than any other player in history before even playing a game #LeBronJames
detroid sure did fuck up with the number 2 pick
Nostalgia
The 2009 draft class is very close.
don't draft international guys that high.
CC: dallas mavricks
Clutch7 kristas wasn’t hyped up . Everyone thought Phil Jackson was crazy pick him . But Phil showed he got eye for talent
Ben Simmons?
gyajan 23 Dallas didn't draft Dirk Milwaukee did and traded him.
Look what Doncic is doing now... On his way to win ROTY
The Pistons are still kicking themselves to this day for passing up Carmelo 😅
Nice
The Heat pulled a dynasty out of thin air.
darko’s career could be completely different if he was drafted by the Spurs😂
It should be "How Bron and Wade and the 2003 draft class transformed the NBA."
DWYANE WADE!!! 👀👀💪💪💪⚡⚡⚡🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆🏆🏆
Nxt to this batch is the 2009 class
The killer is that if the pistons got melo, then melo would have a ring rn
As soon as they said the cavs select Lebron stood up
Cause they call you before they draft you