The takeaway here is that you're a considerate, level headed, well educated architect with good communication skills. And that you've decided to present your information for free on the internet. Awesome presentation of your points. Your clients are lucky to have your skills at their disposal.
it's a shame she does have to make this video mostly because of those that are the opposite to that, but she responded well to it, indeed respect to her for that, walked away with insights I didn't have before
I think the word "scam" was a bit inflammatory, but without it I'm not sure I would have watched the video, and it is good information. It was all new info to me, and I used to watch those "tiny home" videos a lot. As for having to make a second video, remember that she makes money from each video. Don't feel too bad for her. :)
@@LarsonLake What you think is your opinion. Fine. ... "remember that she makes money from each video" ... You know that how? YT demonetizes a lot of videos. But, do this: Hire a professional architect to evaluate your potential build. That will be hundreds of dollars more than what you spent watching this video. And, it will be hundreds of dollars more than anything she may have made from this video. Also, don't worry, I don't feel bad for sane and highly intelligent people that are well-versed experts in their profession, and that also offer free high-quality information. I admire them!
@@gary9346 in this particular case, it's pretty self-explanatory, methinks. Those who drank the kool-aid are refractory to logic due to emotional investment in their acquired belief as well as due to resisting admitting they are not as smart as they think.
Ma'am, my father and I did construction for many years, and everything you're saying about container homes is 100% correct. We worked together before it was a fad, but you'd see a lot of these mistakes in people trying to save money with metal outbuildings, semi trailers, and the like. That people were attacking you and calling you names for it is patently absurd.
@@chuckgilly She's right though, although I tend to think it's more of a mindless consumer fad again one that comes with the attempted projection of environmentalism. If I can make a negative assumption, I wonder how many of these type of homes are second homes also. The project house out in the countryside.
@@aamram85 I don't really think the majority of people get offended about everything now days. In my opinion the few are just getting louder with the use of social media. Before the internet, more precisely social media, if you got offended by something usually only your local friend group knew about it.. Now you can share it with everyone and get loads of attention out of it. Which is another reason I think they get outraged so much, for the attention.. People have done crazier things for attention..
As a masonary trained trademan, design construct build with over 35 years experience I find your videos a breath of fresh air. I receive a lot of flak from comments I have given regarding what I've seen as poor design and sub-standard work people in the comments drool over. Thank you, keep up your enlightening content. It is well appreciated by the professionals who follow you.
Why does my brick home get hot at night & cold during the day unless it’s mid summer 😂 that’s what I wanna know, I’m dying in my place at night it’s so hot without a AC I couldn’t survive!
@@HughMadBro if your house is double brick with an air cavity you shouldn't be experiencing that. If it is brick veneer then then the thermal effects are exactly what is experienced without insulatated external walls. An insulated ceiling only compounds the problem by not allowing the heat generated within the bricks from escaping through the roof. So the bricks are heating up throughout the day with exposure to the sun then releasing it throughout the night into your house. They are cooled by the night air thus aborbing part of the heat they released thus cooling inside in the early hours. It is a viscous cycle of brick veneer construction.
@@orchdork775 tricky question without knowing the circumstances. Exhausting the roof space with a wind driven whirlygig can help. Improving crossflow ventilation is one of the best solutions. Ceiling fans is a good way of doing that. Shading the external walls somehow is a big help. I don't recommend growing trees around your house as that only brings other, sometimes much bigger issues. Verandahs and awnings are a good option.
@@HughMadBro because the bricks soak up the blazing sun all day long and release it at night, by the morning the heats gone,as the sun went down 8 hours before & now the bricks are cool,untill the sun warms them around 1-2 in the afternoon I think
I like the container idea, and have watched lots of videos on them, but they ARE a total pain in the arse to insulate. For the amount of money you spend buying a couple of containers, you could buy lots of wood and build a wooden based 'Large' cabin instead, and wood is a much better insulator then steel is. ;)
at this time of year, hate keeps you warm; only if i could find a cute bab in opposition to hate with. than we can hate each other and keep each other warm
Mansplaining has basically become to mean "men who disagree with women", but I really feel the need to use that phrase for people bringing her gender into the argument. These are probably the ones to be against identity politics, yet they use it divisively themselves.
My husband has been obsessed with us making a container home one day because of the look and “cost”. The points you brought up in both videos confirmed everything I was thinking and concerned about!
Yeah this whole shipping container thing has become glamorized to the point where it's really not much cheaper. Just spend a little more money and have something that will last and is much easier to sale later if one chooses.
I have absolutely no experience in architecture or home building or anything like that. I'm just a curious person who loves when educators provide details, logical arguments, and entertaining content! I'm glad you didn't let the negativity you received affect you too much. Thanks for your awesome videos!
She underestimated just how low many people's comprehension skills are these days. They hear what they want to hear and yell at anybody that doesn't agree with them.
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 I mean, unless she monitorting the comments at this very moment she's not with us :p That said, having just skimmed through the comments on the other video, I wouldn't say it was full of people getting angry and not comprehending. In fact, I saw a lot more agreement. It's just that you can only fill so much space saying 'I agree with you' on the comment line.
@@Bustermachine It’s possible that UA-cam removed threatening comments. & it’s also possible that she blocked them, therefor removing their comments. The only reason I watched is because we had shipping containers where I worked, over 20 years ago, & I would not recommend them. But my friends, who have zero experience with them, insist on arguing for some reason. Also, worked in the mobile home industry, & would not recommend those either.
I did not find the "scam" phrase to be clickbait - it was exactly what you talked about, and you made your point quite well. I'm sorry you had to take so much grief for a perfectly sensible video.
Minor point: being a bad idea is not the same thing as being a scam. Scam implies fraud or intentional dishonesty. Do we know whether shipping container homes are a scam or just a bad idea?
@@piotrm0 That's a fair point. I guess the reason I would consider "scam" a fair assessment is that they are very commonly promoted as a quick, cheap, and environmentally-friendly solution, when in fact they are often none of these, especially not the last one. More importantly, the people marketing them as such would have to know this, having run into these issues themselves. So is it 100% a scam? I don't think so; I think there are legit uses and situations for container buildings. But it's not unfair to label a video about the scam side of it with the word "scam".
@@piotrm0 "scam" is a loaded word, and not the the most descriptive and correct word to use, sure, but it also wasn't a completely incorrect word given the colloqual use of "scam" in everyday english. the accusations of clickbait were totally disproportional to the quality of the video. the video was concise and all the points were relevant to the topic. meanwhile, much lower quality, more clickbait-y videos from other creators seem to get a fair pass for using more eye-catching, less accurate titles. imo, it's not the "clickbait" they have a problem with. it's that a professional and woman of color was dispelling a popular trendy fantasy, as evidence by the harassment based on her identity.
I think the issue is (assuming the word "scam" would mean "knowingly misleading to extract profit") that the video didn't clearly illustrate that fact. Usually the "scam-revealing" video type focuses on somebody making money by tricking others first, and why the idea is bad comes second to that. But the video in question just mentions how much attention these homes get and that there are issues that get overlooked, but doesn't make any allegations that someone actively hides that info from public or makes profits that they really shouldn't have if it wasn't for their misinformation. I don't disagree with the assessment that it might actually be happening, just saying that it might've created expectations about the video that weren't matched. That being said, absolutely doesn't justify the amount of fuss it created, but I see it as miscommunication that could've been avoided
“Scam” was, for sure, click bait. Skipping that and only using the rest of it is pretty dry and many people won’t… click. I don’t see it as a scam. Just a dumb trend that’s not well thought out.
Hey Belinda. I just wanted to leave a comment of appreciation. I'm a single adult in a pretty significant amount of debt from having failed a few attempts at getting an education. I'm now a fully licensed teacher, but can look forward to more than a decade of paying off my student loans, which sucks a lot. Tiny homes therefore appealed to me, and having worked previously with shipping containers I thought of it as a no-brainer that they could be converted into living spaces. I was thrilled to see that others had had the idea before, and I began to dream of having a cool shipping container home somewhere. You were the first person who ever brought up insulation issues and condensation concerns, which is something I've had issues with living in several shoddy apartments. Your single video has cured me of my unfounded belief that shipping containers were the be all end all solution to my dreams of being a home owner. This is a good thing, since I'm now sure I'll do thorough research into other types of tiny homes or modular homes before settling on a concept. Architects are important. Thank you for your insights.
My cousin Bought a 20foot Container and and made a Gaming den with it, It looks pretty cool, though that was when you could get a good used one for it's scrap weight
I mean, why are people SO mad at you?! This conversation is literally just about shipping containers, not like even religion, or politics. Thanks for making these videos! I didn't think about all these things when I first fell in love with shipping container architecture and I appricate you raising these concerns.
I think the problem that some people have with the few videos I've seen from her is that they're one-sided and negative in their arguments, without any counter balance. I'm an architectural sustainability consultant, and she makes some really good points! I'm not in favor of shipping container homes 90% of the time, and the 10% is usually due to the cool factor and not because it's a better method. But the video in reference was a bit of a takedown video without saying what the preferable alternative was, so it's not as educational as it could have been. She did mention a couple times of how it was cheaper to build with wood, but I think the average person would walk away from that video saying "shipping container homes suck" and not "this type of construction is better than shipping containers, and here's why". Again, she makes good points, but I'm not sure who's being helped by her being right.
@@jonmatle Thats a good point! It would have been nice to see more of a balance in the video. But, in this case, I didnt come away thinking that "shipping containers suck. I just hadnt thought about it serious enough to consider the stuff she said when imagining all the cool stuff I could do with the containers. Originally, I just thought it was a cheap way to make a cool house, which it doesnt seem that way anymore. Shipping containers are just another tool to create the sort of house you want to, rather than a silver bullet to avoid cost and building a frame.
I don't think the anger has much to do with the topic. Some people are looking for any reason to be upset because there is a certain class of person who is looking for a reason to let their real self out of it's box and somehow being angry is a justification for personal insults, misogyny, racism etc.
@@jonmatle Honestly? I was considering a build, I hadn't considered the structural points, the possible condensation issues or the thermal issues. She has likely saved me some time/ money .
I am 2 years late to this Belinda but I must say that I love your work. As an architect myself I have been asked about shipping containers a few times. Yours is the most succinct response I have seen. Thank you. Keep fighting the good fight.
I just watched your "shipping container scam video", and I have to admit, I was prejudiced by the huge amount of thumbs-down. Yet I still watched it, and you were making a couple of valid , comprehensible points. So in my opinion there is absolutely nothing wrong with your video, you delivered what the title promised, and you gave valid criticism about the idea of shipping container homes. Just wanted to tell you this to balance out these socially challenged people making insulting, racist, sexist and personally attacking comments.
The problem with the low IQ people is that, if someone spot the light on a displeasant reality, they process it in a way that person is somewhat responsible for its existence -like some sort of dark magician- rather than taking it as a heads up about something they were not yet to be aware of. They believe in people manipulating the facts rather than pointing them out.
She's an interesting person for sure. Some of what she said in the scam video has been debunked as wrong. Some of what she said was true. Some of what she said was her opinion that is a minority view point in the architecture world and first time home builder world. I respect the hell out of her for her ideas though, and hope she gives people like myself(first time home builder/buyer in the next 6 months) a good alternative if she's so down on container homes.
The title perfectly encapsulated the video and detailed how the whole thing is a scam. They don't save the environment, are unsafe, mostly impractical and haughty. People overpay for the aesthetics and use wasteful methods to make them viable home or they propose to use weathered scrap to build affordable housing or homeless shelter. They pat themselves on the back as they tell the poor to live in literal garbage.
The provocative click bait title is probably part of the reason people got so riled up about the video. She could have named it "Why Shipping Container Homes are Overrated" and I'm sure the response wouldn't have been as vitriolic.
WELL DONE...!!! I am a shipping container nut. But when I saw your video critique of the concept I fully understood your position and how you came to that position. Your arguments were definitely well thought out and presented, so keep doing your thing and those of us with decency, honesty, and common sense will continue to hold you up high for your freedom to express your ideas.
Kudos! I too believed shipping container homes were a responsible and economical build until your last video. I appreciate your reasoning & common sense approach that were overlooked. I’d hate to be in a wallowing money pit due to poor preparedness. Your points are legitimate. Hats off to you, as you forge forward amid nay sayers, disrespectful, racial epithets, threats and the like. May this black female’s nod go along way. Continue posting content. New subscriber. Thank you for your time & steel clad point of view.
I have to agree. she did an excellent job describing some of the challenges one might face in using a shipping container as a foundational start to a tiny home. All good points to be considered if one chooses to follow this path.
Being an enginneer, I agree with the points you've raised in the last video. And glad that someone has made a video of such realistic expectation. Good job in creating awareness in such blind trend-followers.
@@Yroxz Having done it myself and failed a little but suceeded also a little, I totally agree with you. But it did work out in the end for the industrial and residential projects I designed and built. Oh, the enthusiasm of youth !
I watched this video because I watched the other one. So well-prepared, well-spoken, and well-presented. I have no interest in building homes but have been wondering why “they” can’t just make homeless shelters with shipping containers. I didn’t feel stupid, I felt informed and educated. Thank you so much. I admire your professionalism.
She is literally giving us professional advice for free. Be grateful. This is why there’s the saying don’t cast your pearls before hogs. But please keep posting! Many of us appreciate your pearls of wisdom.
it is not the info most people have an issue with. most agree with her reasons why containers are a bad idea. The container homes ARE a bad idea and NOT a scam idea. the idea is sound until you dig into the reality of the idea and than you can (like she did) find the reasons why the idea is a bad one. that is what she came across in saying and that is what most replies agree with, just the title to her video that everyone has an issue with.
@@joeydepalmer4457 Nothing is a scam per se, if you look at it that way. Even your 50 percent per day credit rate isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea. It's always the scammer who makes it a scam. And you bet there are a lot of scammers out there, who advertise their container solutions as a luxury palace.
She is Not an Expert, and knows Nothing about Architecture or Construction. She repeatedly Lies about this subject, especially the Scam aspect. What is a Scam is People like her that are allowed to Slander other Reputable Business Owners. If you think this was honest and informative then you seriously need to take stock.
@@jamesfall8259 Let me guess: You're a dealer specialized in selling shipping container homes to other people? 😂 You can find Mrs. Carr's CV on the internet. Quite young, Bachelor of Architecture from a UAE university, a Master of Architecture from the University of Cincinnati, lots of practical experience gained in various architecture companies in UAE and all over the USA, now she makes a living as an independent consultant in architecture, at the same time she runs her own company, and still she finds the time to make high quality videos... I'd say that could go through as "knowing something about architecture or construction", don't you think? Ok, and now let's talk about you: What do *you* have on offer? What does *your* CV look like? 😉
There's nothing more guaranteed to draw people's ire on the Internet than questioning the newest trendy technocratic bullshit. Pay 'em no mind. Your arguments were calmly articulated, well considered and restrained (more restrained than I'd be...). Love the channel and can't wait to learn more!
@@butchjohnson9736 oh man, the sooner LA spends 10 billion dollars of taxpayers money replacing their archaic infrastructure with a hyperloop network, the sooner they can show the rest of the world how much better things can be
Amatures telling experts who have devoted their lives to home building, engineering and architecture that they are wrong is hillarious. Belinda, thanks for your wonderful insight and logic.
Well you cant blame people for having a distrust agaisnt experts when a lot of them are bussy with exploiting and scamming. But yeah it was kinda funny in this video ppl trying to refute common sense just because and expert said it.
your first shipping container video was the first video that introduced me to you. I clicked because my fiance and I were interested in the whole shipping container idea for a home. Listen. I love how you handled yourself, and this made me a fan of yours off the bat. One of the reasons I want to live off-grid is to get away from what society is turning into. Complete craziness. People don't know how to disagree without vulgar actions. I learned a long time ago that when people lash out at you, its generally because they themselves are truly unhappy somewhere in their life. It's nothing you did. Just keep up the good work and keep making vids. It really was useful info and my fiance and I appreciate it.
I just stumbled upon your videos today. I watched the one about the "scam" of shipping containers and this one and they are amazing! You can tell that you really know your stuff. I'm an architecture student too and as far as I can tell, everything you said was accurate and well stated. I think that the nay-sayers are just emotionally attached to their dreams of doing a self-build of a container home. It's likely that those people haven't been exposed to alternative methods of building frugally and small and so their hopes are set on the shipping containers. Please don't be discouraged by the negativity. People who are better informed on building science are going to agree with you, because you have correct information.
I work in construction and have never heard anybody talk about using containers. A couple carpenters can frame out a large shed sized building in a couple days. Of course I've seen tons of dumb stuff. Recently, saw a home built in Sweden(?) using recycled wood that was then disassembled and shipped to Colorado. $12M. The carpenters are my buddies and I've seen them deliver better quality for 10% of that.
Nah...They just pretend on social media to be living off grid and tiny, but they make a shit load of money off it (you tube), and have a real house, but people think they are really of grid...a strange phenomenon, with social media.
It is so frustrating that when people can't make a well thought out, rational, reasonable argument - they resort to attacking the person. Gender and race are just two easy cards for people to hit when they're frustrated by not being able to support their position intelligently. I'm glad you didn't let them bring you down and put together another intelligent and thoughtful presentation.
I really appreciate your educated perspective because all of the tiny home/ container home videos only talk about how amazing the interiors look for such a low cost. We need videos like this where you’re speaking on the cons so that we can make a more informed decision on whether or not to actually take on this type of extreme project. Thank you for your video, it helped me a lot and I am definitely reconsidering my approach to home building.
I was involved in installing the electrical system in a home built of a half-dozen containers. We are in a heating climate, and to their credit, the designers chose to frame, insulate and clad the outside, so the vapour barrier (steel shell) is on the inside. But this meant we had to run most of the wiring in the outside walls, bringing it through plastic grommet-protected holes to surface-mounted PVC device boxes in the interior. Everything we did was more of a pain than usual. Picture a normal rough-in, where all the walls and ceiling are open for running wiring and you can literally walk through walls to move around. Now imagine what it's like to pull wire in outside walls where just getting from A to B means running up and down ladders and walking around or into and out of the building. Many operations easily done working alone in normal construction required two workers to be practical in this inside-out situation. Had it been my choice I'd have gone totally industrial and run exposed EMT on the interior surface. Your walls are corrugated steel for Pete's sake, why not embrace it? (And have complete flexibility for future changes to boot.) Lovely acoustics with those metal interior walls, BTW. 🙄 I agree wholeheartedly with all of Belinda's concerns. So much of that project seemed to me like a misguided exercise in novelty that ended up being more complicated and more expensive - for no perceivable benefit - than almost any other method would've been. The owners - architects who designed it for themselves as a four-season cottage - put it on the market not long after it was finished. I don't know exactly why, but I can guess... Edit: PS I have a container. It's mounted on screw piles, with solar panels on the roof, and the only modification to the shell is a couple of vents. Inside: shelves. On the shelves: stuff.
@@jacobw3652 Yes, Electrical Metallic Tubing. If you see metal conduit somewhere it's almost always EMT, as opposed to rigid metal conduit which is much thicker and is threaded to make connections, like gas pipe. EMT is too thin to thread. Most any building method can produce a useful dwelling if it's done properly, but I agree with you. I love my container for secure storage, but that's it.
@@IrishKingzz my first thoughts? .. light steel framing pre-built in panels .. post + beam structure .. SIPS .. prefab structures .. or combination of two or more of the above
@@kazoosc OH these guys are illiterate. Those are a few. I do cast on place rigid insulation with helix micro rebar and thermomass wythes. Tpo flat roof.
The big problem with our society is that people like "cool" stuff. And if facts interfere with cool stuff. That's a problem. I just found your channel, keep up the good work. I love it.
You have expressed yourself in a way that can be appreciated and understood by any reasonable person. I'm so grateful I found your channel, you answered all my questions about inhabiting a shipping container.
Heh, I mean, I'm Mexican, the first time I saw that "shipping container" Video I was astonished because... Corrugated Metal is used by very VERY poor people... You can buy a thousand bricks relatively cheap in my country, and its much more common to build your home in pieces, step by step as you continue to work, add another room, finish the floor etc, by that time you're already tearing down the Corrugated Metal that is, by now, filled with holes and rusting because no one haves the money to take care of it!. When the guy in the Video started "isolating" The container all I could think was "that looks work intensive and expensive..."
I live in Canada and I wish I could just build a concrete block house one room at a time, like the ones I admired in Baja, and be able to live in it comfortably. Oh well.
Some people seem to forget that shipping containers are just that - a metal box meant to hold goods for 1-3 months during transport during which they will not have any breech, like opening of doors or anything. Some even have cooling and freezing capabilities for the goods. None of them are made for living, least of all permanently. I understand the desire to reuse them, but why not use a 20ft container as a shed in the garden that holds your summer activities for the winter, the lawnmover, garden utensils, table, chair and anything else that will look poor if outside left over winter. Especially plastic chairs and tables get an ugly patina. With wood furniture you could fold them down and set them aside in a shed repurposed from a shipping container. You could also has part of set up as your garden workshop and move your tools to your basement over winter. if you don't care about all you have to do to make it livable and the chemicals in the paint and the poor quality of the metal and the fact that any cutting into the frame will need new supports and you don't care about your money by all means go and ''save'' a container from being melted down when it is a end of life.
@@chrisdrysdale4311 I completely forgot that most other countries have regulations on buildings... in Mexico all we've got is "kinda" "maybe" "probably" zoning and even then no one cares... If you buy a lot, you can mostly do whatever you want with it (as long as no one complains, better said, you don't bother the neighbors), I think only in historical sites it's more regulated (and again, you can tell them to F-off and they mostly do)
Same! I'm from Venezuela and that corrugated metal look is always associated with poorness here, because we only really see it in what we call "invasiones" where people just start building houses out of scraps in abandoned land. It was really weird at first to see it's actually a trend lol
same in most countries. poor areas have corrugated metal shelters. no real organized paths or roads. and families strive for permanent shelter so they start making walls & rooms one at a time from brick or concrete.
Im on the fence on the subject but when you think about it. Whats better for the environment. Wood house that you cant use second hand wood so all them trees need to be chopped down to make the beams for your house or The shipping container that was made with or without your home and served its use already. Making it a home is simply making it so instead of a part of your house build process being the destructing of trees, turning trees into wood beams etc, we skip that and there is no impact to the earth from extracting resources from it. Now if you are buying a brand new container then that is different. That would mean the resource gathering and manufacturing of the container was done 100% for the house and not to transport goods
I might be late to the party, but I remember when I first watched your video on the shipping container video I actually thought "wow". I was so impressed with the amount of analysis and honestly it really did change my perspective on shipping container homes. From then on I've always had so much respect for you, not following a 'trend'.
I have started using the term "Environmental Industrial Complex" to refer to things that instead of being environmentally positive, are intended to package up the idea of environmentalism in a product that can be bought, regardless of the environmental impact. Parts of this video remind me of that concept. We really need to question everything, keep thinking, and not let others do the homework for us.
I like that term, it's more commonly know as "green washing" by sustainability buffs. Something appearing to be a green solution or selling that idea, but it's actually the exact opposite.
Yeah I think green washing is the right term as the other comments said. "Environmental Industrial Complex" kind of implies that there is some interaction between environmentalists and industry to make up these bad idea fads, and I don't think that's true (maybe you see it differently). This is instead just non-environmentalists trying to make money by selling something and taking advantage of peoples' desire to do something good. They do it by lying, obfuscating, exaggerating, etc, and they are anything but environmentalists.
@@TheJohnreeves I do think that there is. I think some of the overwhelming evidence is the fact that the moment that we get practical environmental technologies that could positively affect things, the environmentalists immediately find reasons to discount it. The only thing we can possibly use is something that hasn't been invented yet, despite the fact that clean energy sources have been available for over 100 years.
We create and they buy us off and leave it on the shell until they can find a way to make it ilegal for you to use it! Water, air, light, etc everything is taxable as long as we believe in it's scarcity!!! Or polutent effect for all that matter...
That was something that as a northern Midwesterner was immediately on my radar when it came to container homes. There's a reason flat roofs are very uncommon for homes in the northern Midwest - the roof has to be *at least* 10 degrees in order for the snow to fall off at a bare minimum. If you get a heavy snowfall followed by a cold snap (which is extremely common) and you've only got the minimum pitch on your roof? You'd probably better get out there with a snow rake and remove the snow from your roof. No need to court roof collapse, you know? I think the average roof pitch is around 30 degrees just to be on the safe side, but I'm not entirely sure on that. It's going to depend on your state as to what the actual building codes require and for some reason, commercial buildings are allowed to have flat roofs here - which is part of the reason they all seem to suffer leaks after a certain number of years, no matter how good the drainage system they build into the roof is.
@@TheLakabanzaichrg disagree there. I grew up in a house with a tin roof in TX. It was..... beautiful, to listen to, and to this day, I have an absolute love of rain hitting my car's roof as well. Hail.... on the other hand, rings out like a bell when it hits the roof. Horrible, horrible to listen to for hours on end.
@@TheLakabanzaichrg this is false...i know this because my workplace has a container as a tool shed and its pretty silent when it rains...not that i would want a "container home" anyways.
As someone who has spent years dealing with shipping containers, I can safely say that I would NEVER live inside one as a house. The amount of water that drips down on a regular basis when it gets hot is enough to tell me that it would be a nightmare to sanitize the interior to prevent mold growth. Might as well just start from scratch material.
“I’m threatened to lose business because people can build their own homes” yes let’s see these people living in shipping containers come together and build skyscrapers?
I lived in a school bus home growing up, and condensation was an ongoing problem. So that was the first thing I thought of when I first saw container homes. I rarely see the issue talked about in videos.
I was thinking about that, too. My brother is building a schoolie. Not because it's cool, but because he wanted to be able to move it. But I worry for him about condensation now. He has a small fireplace inside that should help reduce moisture. And he insulated with wool, which is supposed to be more resistant to moisture and mold. But I still have a little concern for him. I really hope he will be happy in his home.
I was very serious about using shipping containers as a home and did loads of research and came up with designs and concepts but in the end the longevity, cost and effort was always biting back. Good of you to share!
If ever I need an architect to design me a home I would hire you in a heartbeat... your calm logic and that nifty phrase "science of design" won me over. Hello from Canada.
I'm a little late to this particular party, but I really do appreciate how thoroughly you've explained all this. I live in a town where shipping container construction is a trend, and it's comforting to have some of my suspicions confirmed.
Coming from an architecture/engineering/property development family, I have to commend you for your expertise and even more for your level-headedness in the face of internet adversity. You have presented both videos with solid facts, research and precedents, and design logic first and foremost. There will always be internet scum who will seek confirmation bias. I'm so happy to finally see someone whose maturity can face up to the internet's trademark idiocy. I'd say don't let it get you down and stay strong, but you're definitely several steps ahead!
As someone who spend a lot of time overseas living in shipping containers as both home / office I can attest your last video was spot on with the issues. I dealt with the mold due to the issues you mentioned in your videos.
@@shawnchong5196 Hi mate, maybe watch it again and things may get become clearer for you to understand. And yes I do have extensive experience in the building industry. Have a good one Shawn.
@@lachness3578 nah, she's an architect, and calling it a scam is ridiculous. I've been on 50+ large scale residential/industrial/commercial sites for >70% of construction (minus foundation). Also countless sites for sub contracting. I've never been part of container shipping built homes, only perused other contractors sites who performed them and discussed it. I have spent many a year working and living in on site container offices. This garbage she's spewing is so one sided, she's totally not in tune with construction. I am not saying container homes are good, I'm just saying I've been to so many construction sites and know a shit tonne about costs, problems, with all manners of construction: wood, concrete, steel structures, 1-30 story residential, massive commercial shopping malls. For her to make a blanket statement like that is pure stupidity and shame to all architects. She should talk about dimensions, the amount of work required, all the cutting and welding, other than that, the rest of the work is standard for construction. The comments she makes are nothing unsolvable and are common things builders would immediately bring up, it's just are you willing to put in the effort. My opinion is If you want some DIY project, better to just use Styrofoam blocks, I've done two large houses, and that's super easy, though you need to probably hire someone to build the roof, which wouldn't necessarily be the case with container shipping home. What she should also mention is you need more than just one container, you'll need 2 or 3 to have enough usable floorspace: be prepared for a lot of grinding, but nothing difficult. Also just because you build a container home doesn't meant you shouldn't get proper foundations done. There is nothing wrong per se with container homes, again, it's more DIY because you will have to invest time yourself to save money.
Ah well, when you receive an avalanche of sexist, racist, abusive cyber-stalking for making logical points, you know you're onto something! Keep up the good work.
Thanks! I appreciate your alternative viewpoint on shipping container homes. By the time they're built out they're only 7 ft wide inside. Not for everyone, but might make a nice hunting cabin. And ignore the trolls, you are wonderful!
Pretty sure the people bending over backwards to force a shipping container home to work are just reliving their childhood days of building cardboard box forts but in an adult context
But unfortunately they're spending a lot more money on it this time. And they don't get to go back to their comfy bedroom at night. I hope it works out well for them. Really, I do. But I'm glad I'm learning before doing something like that myself.
Hey, your shipping container video was the first one of your videos that I've seen. I really liked the format, the content and your presentation. It made me watch a lot more of your stuff, and I think it's really good. Thanks for the solid, entertaining, educational content. I'm sorry there are so many jerks out there.
true some comments can be negative and not helpful but by turning off comments, you rely on your own point and your own point by its self can have errors and you'll never improve on those errors because you're too closed minded to listen to others. its better to leave the comments on and skim through them and find the comments that fix your errors so you can have a better perspective. American has many voices, if you only listen to yourself, you can never improve.
@@robertbrainard5651 I agree with the spirit behind your comment - that it's important to keep an open mind, continue to reassess your own assumptions, and to listen to alternative viewpoints and arguments - but I frankly don't think UA-cam will ever be a good platform for this kind of dialogue (despite our exchanging of ideas right now). Any social media where you can vote on comments is going to heavily affect the nature of the discussion: quippy one-liners and jokes will be pushed toward the top, nuanced opinions and ideas will be overlooked or misunderstood, and people will be influenced by seeing how many upvotes other comments receive. Group mindset is a very real phenomenon, and social media unfortunately is designed to appeal to our basest instincts rather than reasoned, careful, honest debate.
@@samw355 _"...and social media unfortunately is designed to appeal to our basest instincts rather than reasoned, careful, honest debate."_ Oh my, I may have to quote you on this in the future.....many times. It's essentially tragic that in this day and age so many people don't realize this, and even if given to their baser instincts normally, seem to completely let go and go crazy with viciousness when writing on the internet.
I had a trial run at my dream container build on a small scale with one 20 ft container 8 years ago. It proved to be far too costly to undertake a full size home. I always tell those who have similar dreams to see past the container myth, save themselves a lot of money and build conventionally. I think if I'd seen your video back then I still wouldn't have fully believed it. Some people really do need to find out for themselves.
Great stuff Belinda. I came here from the video you're responding to. I'm civil engineer (recently graduated) who's on the brink of jumping into shipping container construction, for my own home. I really appreciate the alternate view and I'm now enticed to do more research. Much gratitude to you for your very logical and scientific approach in what one may call criticising shipping container homes, though, from an engineering perspective, you have merely just analysed shipping container home constraints, and needless to say, that is an essential step in design. Also, I love how you've handled the irrational negative responses to your initial video. It shows that there are some positives we can take away from some UA-cam creators and personality. Keep at it!
The negative response to Belinda's video's shows that the honest facts about shipping container building has rubbed some people the wrong way. Why? because i'm convinced that social media and youtube are great platforms for releasing entertainment, but really poor platforms for actually educating people.
I am a retired Architect. You are right on target about containers. I have a vacation property where I remodeled an existing house and to store material for construction I purchased a one ship container. On several occasions I could see condensation had formed on stored items at times. I have looked at what I could do with the container and ran into all the issues you pointed out. My conclusion containers make great temporary storage containers. Look forward to viewing more of your videos.
It's mind-blowing that people can listen to well-founded, scientifically-backed assertions from an educated professional and think they know better. The Dunning-Kruger effect is so real.
I did my undergrad in Applied Biosciences and Biotechnology and would find myself having to get into arguments with people about how 5G can't cause you to get the Corona Virus and how airborne diseases and viruses work. Just ended up not listening to them
It doesn’t blow my mind. I’m jaded after encountering: * Abrahamic creationists * Holocaust deniers * Anti-vaccination advocates. And COVID deniers * Jesus Mythicists * Cannabis legalisation advocates * Deniers of accepted social science surrounding gender identity * Advocates for vegan diets * Promoters of the flat earth theory * Deniers of the 2020 US election results. The fact is: We’re generally not that smart a species.
I'm a pro container/tiny-home guy and very glad that you have put out a video that points out the unthought-about cons of building one of these. There is a lot that goes into any building project that a 5-20min video does not cover. A DIYer does not see the cons of building these...especially in the city, permits for the build, permit to shut down the street for the crain to drop the container, and hiring a cop for the day. Angry neighbors, slow-to-move inspectors....on and on. Love the thermal bridging, and moisture protection points that are not thought of. That 30-day build can turn into a 90 easily. This is still a new industry for us in the states and codes are being added yearly that can be costly to build. Thank you for making this.
I am a woman in IT. I feel you sis. What we just want to talk about tech and stuff? How dare we? Some people just can't get over the fact, that woman can be huge nerds too.
You were correct. I've had a couple of clients withdraw well into a container based projects, due to cost blow outs. These things are not cheap, unless you want cheap. Now when you build these things cheap you WILL BE SPENDING MORE MONEY on maintaining these things over there life compared to traditional build.
yeah that is what i think as well if they want a small foot print home why not do with wood and the lining up container to be structural sound also will pose many hindrance and extra cost to make it structurally strong and the insulation of the house if done outside is a better solution chances are they will try to make another form of wall inside to make it look ecstatically pleasing does loosing the purpose of a steel container home
The main advantage of a shipping container home is that you can drop in the containers and weld/seal them to be waterproof as the first building task you do, then live inside them while you build the rest of the home from the inside out. You can live in a standard home while it’s under construction as they are typically not even weather/waterproof until 50% of the build is complete. I’ve seen this shipping container advantage first hand and a friend of mine built a 10 shipping container home, over 3 years while living inside of it. First they did foundations for 4 x 40 foot containers, sealed in, and moved in within 2 months. They then spent the next year fitting out those containers while living in them, saving 2 years of rent payments. They then added another 6 x 20 foot shipping containers to the 4 already in place, and had them waterproofed in a 2 week period, while still living in the 4 containers they built earlier. The ability the get out of the rent trap and live inside the waterproofed containers while under construction for years was a huge advantage for them, saving $60k of rent, being onsite all the time and not having to waste time in travel, and to be able to supervise all trades all the time because they were always there was substantial. This is the PRIMARY benefit of building with shipping containers, not cost savings in materials (eg. they still had to build a sloping roof on the waterproofed containers to comply with the building code) or modularity, rather the ability to live inside them while completing the first fix, second fix, all the trades work and the compliance inspections, provided you’re prepared to live in an unfinished construction environment for the times it takes to complete.
Excellent, I was accepting the concept of Container Buildings at face value! You’ve provided valuable insight! I believe our values are aligned! Keep up the good work!
As someone who has lived in containers for several years, I can vouch that they are incredibly suboptimal for long-term accommodation. They are fine for what they are: easily transportable temporary housing that can be easily removed (and recycled) once the need has passed. Once you don't need the transportability, almost any other construction option is more preferable.
I love how you've handled yourself, sister. Much respect to you. Also, your initial video was very informative and it definitely made me think twice about how to build my future tiny home. Thanks a bunch!
I know this video is from 4 years ago but I found it today. I'm not an architect or an engineer, but I've worked in construction my whole life. I share your opinions about shipping containers and it's refreshing to hear all this facts from an actual professional architect. Thank you!
I’m a civil engineer student, from PERU. And the “don’t let people let you down” phrase of the video was so moving for me. Great job stepping forward on your ideas and great feed.
Thank you Belinda, I've been looking to start an affordable housing project and have been seriously considering using shipping containers but you've given me some serious things to consider. I live in Canada and you comments on thermal conductivity and moisture control real made me think, I thought I had thought that aspect through but I hadn't. As you know Canada can get pretty cold and having had mold problems in brick and wood framed buildings in my personal past that is something I would prefer not to have to deal with ever again. I started seriously thinking about shipping containers because a friend of mine uses one as on site office for his geothermal construction projects, (his family runs a geothermal heating company and they do projects from the tundra to the Southern most parts of Canada as well as some in the northern USA) he insulated it and heats it with a tiny little electric heater. He uses it from early spring to late fall but not in the winter so he may not have noticed any mold problems. He also only uses it for a little while each day and only heats it when he's in it. So anyway thank you, you've swung me back to more traditional methods for my affordable housing project and since I'm still at the beginning and haven't actually bought any containers yet I'm not cursing you or anyone else out for bad decisions on my part 😉
I was a first in disagreement with the "Scam" portion of the initial video. I listened to the thoughtful argument and points and have finally agreed that the "S word" was appropriate. The idea as presented by most media/internet information about container homes is that it is a miraculous, cost effective, environment friendly solution to many problems. Our presenter here has laid out the exact cons to the supposed unsupported pros that most sites provide. I'm still thinking about a basic container home, but I have the information to really compare against a basic stick construction. Thank you :)
Cost effective is highly debatable. (CA is on the most-likely-not side.) Environment friendly is certainly is not. Taking 4t of recyclable steel out of the industrial economy is not the most green approach. Even a 45-48' container is pretty small space -- too small to be called a house in many places. Turning one into a living space is certainly possible, but a "good" space??? Almost everywhere has building codes that will require significant structural modifications -- i.e. windows and doors. (even I look out the windows from time to time.)
I’ve just watched your video and the previous one. As a British builder with nearly 50 years experience, I thought both of your videos were excellent, well balanced and thought provoking. Many thanks.
thank you for that "scam" video and this video. you actually made me come to a sense to not believe all what u've seen in UA-cam. it's good and simply logical.
Without doing any research, I had thought that a shipping container home might be a good idea. I was less than halfway through your first video on these when my mind was changed. So many of the fundamental building science issues seemed so obvious once you'd stated them. I whole-heartedly agree with your summary that there are better options. I've long understood that there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution to most things, and especially housing. Thanks very kindly for making these videos! I wish you great health. :)
As an architect who is approached by at least a half dozen potential clients yearly who wish to build with containers, I was pleased to watch your excellent video about the container scam. I passed it on to several who had hopes for a home made of shipping containers. Your video explains very cogently why shipping containers are not suited in any reasonable way as a residential building component, a point that I have been making for years. You are smart, you make great arguments, and your discussion of important construction and architecture issues is timely and highly informative. Keep up the great work, and don't let these ignorant haters stop you.
Great job on this and the original video! The way you break stuff down so that anyone can understand it is truly impressive. I'm considering building a container home for short-term rental property, but your last two videos really made me reconsider what is the best option. Keep making great videos!
I love everything about this response, from addressing the unnecessary vitriol, to the balanced and well-researched replies to the most interesting points raised in the comments. I'm sorry that you had to suffer cyber-bullying. I'm also relieved that you won't let it stop you! As someone who works in the mining and mineral exploration industry, my favourite part was "Where do you think steel comes from??" :)
A smart lady sharing her opinion on an often overlooked subject, the downside of a new fad (container homes). I thought container homes looked awesome but because I'm not an engineer of any kind I did not realize all of these points that Miss Carr was kind enough to detail for us through the lens of her experience and learning. Thank you for not riding the hype train and educating those of us who want to learn!! :)
Glad I bought this one ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxT9ExVpR-3A-9rpRqx8vzXKZ3BMMTg_KH . I had a customer looking for a shed that didn't look 'prefab' and was rustic, but "cute" (her term). I showed her the cover of the book and, with a few modifications, she was sold. I've never built a shed but I do have some framing knowledge. The info on roofing is very helpful to me. I was also psyched that the section for the shed on the cover had measured drawings for the trim boards and keystone pieces for the gable ends and over the windows. Should make life a little easier for me.
It is hard to be a deep thinker on UA-cam. I appreciate you putting yourself out there and offering such sage advice and conversation about this topic. Much love.
I am an engineer and have been building equipment buildings for over 40 years. Any time someone wanted to use a shipping container for their equipment they were just looking for something cheap. They are always surprised when my price ended up being more than a metal building started from scratch. There are a few instances where they make sense. EVERYTHING YOU SAID WAS SPOT ON! Don't feel like you have to defend/explain yourself. I loved your video about 3D Printed homes (aka walls :-) )
I am late this this whole thing, but the "it's hurrican resitant" part made me laugh. All of Europe fixed that problem with homes that can last centuries. But no containers. Golden.
The first video was great. It made a lot of sense and helped put to bed the myth of easy, affordable, sustainable housing via using a shipping containers. And I was glad to see a educated woman of color present a well reasoned argument against using shipping containers as homes. He good luck getting insurance for your shipping container home. Keep up the good work. You’re a Shero! 🏆
I absolutely agree. The moment you take a standard container and attempt to modify it to "increase width-space," you are stepping into major complications. The container by itself was designed to be strong and any changes will effect structural integrity. I can only think of two simple and cost effective ways if one wants to use containers to build a home. 1. Stack as many as you want side by side. Take out the doors from one side. On this side running in front of the open doors, build a long hallway-like structure. I suppose you could use metal or wood. Then over everything with a roof. The containers will still have all their strong points. The only issue will be that you will have several.long rooms to use however you wish. It would look like a "hotel" arrangement. And you will use the hallway to go from one to the other. 2. A barn-like structure. You can do this with sturcturally unmodified containers by placing them apart and building a roof over them. You will need to secure the "walls" which are the contaoners themselves to the ground so that they do not move/shift apart. Then you can subdivide the space in the middle as you desire. The point on interior insulation is 100% valid. Metal heats and cools rapidly. The best way to insulate is from the outside. Place studs on the outside and insulate. Then cover the insulation with plywood, hardiplank or vinyl siding. This keeps the heat from directly impacting the metal. I am no expert but this is the only cheap and non-complicated way I can think of using containers to make a house.
Pretty good reality check for me personally, I was spiralling down a road of container homes just being 100% a great idea, and I wasn't making a fair assessment of all the pros and cons. So thanks for your analysis and balance and don't take the extremist keyboard warriors to heart. You earned my respect and subscription, keep up the great work.
I've lost count of the number of years I've wanted a container home. I was ready to battle my county, it completely rejects container homes being built here. But, because of your "scam" video which I thought was very insightful, I am rethinking that option. Many people in this world are hateful and cruel, don't let the haters change the way you give everyone else important things to think about before we make very expensive mistakes both financially and health wise. Be you, thank you!
@@philxdev Straw and clay would not be a good outside wall surface in wet area. There is still water from the outside weather that you need to keep away from the steel walls, or provide a way for it to drain away. Straw & clay are usually good for dry climates, and you usually want to have a long roof overhang to protect the straw & clay from rain.
@@jimbaranski4687 not sure what you mean by wet area.. but if done correctly it can withstand wet climate without any major problems.. they did build clay houses in england for centuries and they have much rain.. but yeah you are correct you need a good roof with overhang and protection from below so the walls are standing on dry feet.. for everything else there is a solution, like a mineral plaster / coating (semipermeable), wooden planking ( with or without ventilation behind).. and yeah having steel walls on the outside is not optimal in so many ways.. that is why I would only use containers as inner structure..
@@philxdev wouldn't it be smarter and less costly to simply build a steel frame structure not limited by container dimensions? the amount of customisation and reinforcing quickly exceeds the purchase price of the containers
@@malvaizn Real Estate is an investment in time, and one of the best investments you can make; mobile homes, tiny homes, travel trailers and shipping containers are not investments, there shelter and that's how the bank see's them. Before I would advise building a home out of shipping containers i'd learn how to build my own home and keep it simple, but safe. Belinda's advice in the two video's is factual and realistic. Resourceful? sure. its a corrugated steel box with no insulation, heating, cooling, plumbing or electrical.
Im an architect and builder. I listened to your first bit and now I am going to listen to this. You hit all the points that I have been wondering about, the temp differential leading to condensation, the non cantilever ability of them and the one I didnt think of, torch cutting that nasty paint. One is better off just buying framing steel and concrete pads, as you stated, the size from the get go is too small. Thanks for all this.
@@louiscypher4186 I tend to think it could be the hardcore hippies. They think container homes benefit the environment greatly but this video debunks all the fallacies they believe in.
I have done a lot of research on the shipping container solution. All of your points are logical and correct. I think the point is they aren't a scam. They just aren't a singular solution. As in all things you have to understand the subject fully. I think you brought that to a head in a good way. Thanks for the video.
I think her argument that not disclosing all of the complications while touting it as an inexpensive and perfect alternative is scammy. Particularly when it can have dangerous consequences and they pretend to have no environmental impact when it truly is quite large.
@@livijean1 i think her back paddling and deleting comments after being called out by real construction professionals and that people dont see it is insulting and proves fans are just blind to facts and that more of what she talked about is not only known and talked about in the Container home videos but required to comply to build code in many countries! She compares a self built container to a Professional built home? WTF thats stupid? and again she insulted the companies that build these the Cheap and safe way! Also she cries about people attacking her? that is what happens on ALL platforms and if she does not like it maybe she should stop (Considering she deleted valid points) Some of what she said in the Video was wrong and she knows it but she will cry victim cause it seems thats the new defence for everything? also drinking the cool aid might not want to be the comment you use when taking the high ground... Makes her sound more like a 15 yr old not happy people challenge her!
yeah she rightefully meant that the "scam" is not the container itself .. but the people praising them and especially the ones doing it for monetary reasons, be it just a "hipster" youtube video riding the popularity of this topic or people who are actually selling container homes... so the word scam is totally fine within this topic "container homes"
NecrOkies wow, apparently this is very personal to you and it a big deal. Sounds like someone wasn’t prepared for mass backlash and responded in self defense. How disappointingly human of her. You’re right, she should be perfect and know exactly how to react and tell everyone that they are right and she is a terrible person. Your logic is obviously flawless and you are now the god of UA-cam. I’m glad you took the time to respond to a total stranger in such an aggressive way and solved world hunger in the process. Your one comment abolished the need for government and war. Wow, congrats on your accomplishments in one comment.
If you’re upset about the word “scam” in the title, that just shows that you don’t agree with her but that’s the only thing you can criticize is the title.
When I hear and see you I sometimes feel I am listening to myself. In one of your segments you mentioned Architects coming from Colleges have no constrruction knowledge and only contractors are good source. I agree as I hired an architect graduate as project manager and failed. I also agree with you that container homes are scams. Many people see them advertized on Ebay by Chinese for just few thousand dollars not realizing various pitfalls. Just because they are easily transportable on trailer, some people have no idea how difficult they are to import, transport and build to codes. They are good for some mountain properties as guest living or on ranches but not for normal living. Changing bed sheet is diffcult as width is limited to 7'-6" inside. As a builder of these units I have made several changes and finally made some acceptable versions after spending time and money. What you have and are saying is 100% correct. Ignore those who are idiots by birth.
You were sharing some information that was to help people make a decision on a container home. I think it was very informative, and you may have saved someone from making choice that could be more expensive than some could afford.
I’m sorry to hear that was the reaction you got. I hope things have gotten better and appreciate you keeping the video up. Learned so much, wishing you the best
My beau was suggesting a container home for us and I am so glad I watched both your videos. My gut was against it and you explain perfectly why it would not be a good idea. Thanks for the info!
I saw both videos and I think you hit the nail on the head. In one of my past jobs, I worked for a company that managed containers. I have stories. The worst damage I saw came from shipping engine blocks and manhole covers. They get tossed around on the high seas and wrecked the containers. Coffee was a real hard smell to get rid of. But the worst was when they sent a container to a meat packing plant, and after the cows were butchered, the hides were dipped in formaldehyde and hung in the container. When it was full, they'd ship it to China. When it arrived a few weeks later, the hides were all tanned and ready to be made into Members Only jackets. The containers were useless. I wouldn't want to live in one of those. Containers were designed to fit in a single lane on a road.
The takeaway here is that you're a considerate, level headed, well educated architect with good communication skills. And that you've decided to present your information for free on the internet. Awesome presentation of your points. Your clients are lucky to have your skills at their disposal.
it's a shame she does have to make this video mostly because of those that are the opposite to that, but she responded well to it, indeed respect to her for that, walked away with insights I didn't have before
Came here to say this!
I think the word "scam" was a bit inflammatory, but without it I'm not sure I would have watched the video, and it is good information. It was all new info to me, and I used to watch those "tiny home" videos a lot.
As for having to make a second video, remember that she makes money from each video. Don't feel too bad for her. :)
couldn't said it better :)
@@LarsonLake What you think is your opinion. Fine. ... "remember that she makes money from each video" ... You know that how? YT demonetizes a lot of videos. But, do this: Hire a professional architect to evaluate your potential build. That will be hundreds of dollars more than what you spent watching this video. And, it will be hundreds of dollars more than anything she may have made from this video. Also, don't worry, I don't feel bad for sane and highly intelligent people that are well-versed experts in their profession, and that also offer free high-quality information. I admire them!
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled"
Mark Twain
People will continue buying container homes, sadly.
same comment again!?
@@melovetorun not that I know of...did anyone put that up before?
@@myrddrral people often use this quote to back up their argument without much explanation.
@@gary9346 - it's point is implicit and well made. You know it. Stop being petty with sham nitpicks.
@@gary9346 in this particular case, it's pretty self-explanatory, methinks.
Those who drank the kool-aid are refractory to logic due to emotional investment in their acquired belief as well as due to resisting admitting they are not as smart as they think.
Ma'am, my father and I did construction for many years, and everything you're saying about container homes is 100% correct. We worked together before it was a fad, but you'd see a lot of these mistakes in people trying to save money with metal outbuildings, semi trailers, and the like. That people were attacking you and calling you names for it is patently absurd.
I think she caught flak for using the word "Scam" in the title of the first video. Poor little'ol cupcake.
@@chuckgilly She's right though, although I tend to think it's more of a mindless consumer fad again one that comes with the attempted projection of environmentalism. If I can make a negative assumption, I wonder how many of these type of homes are second homes also.
The project house out in the countryside.
@@chuckgilly calling it a scam still isn't a good excuse to threaten her life over... If you think that's reasonable.. You need help..
People get offended by anything nowadays. I never built anything with containers but everything she says makes 100% sense.
@@aamram85 I don't really think the majority of people get offended about everything now days. In my opinion the few are just getting louder with the use of social media. Before the internet, more precisely social media, if you got offended by something usually only your local friend group knew about it.. Now you can share it with everyone and get loads of attention out of it. Which is another reason I think they get outraged so much, for the attention.. People have done crazier things for attention..
As a masonary trained trademan, design construct build with over 35 years experience I find your videos a breath of fresh air. I receive a lot of flak from comments I have given regarding what I've seen as poor design and sub-standard work people in the comments drool over. Thank you, keep up your enlightening content. It is well appreciated by the professionals who follow you.
Why does my brick home get hot at night & cold during the day unless it’s mid summer 😂 that’s what I wanna know, I’m dying in my place at night it’s so hot without a AC I couldn’t survive!
@@HughMadBro if your house is double brick with an air cavity you shouldn't be experiencing that.
If it is brick veneer then then the thermal effects are exactly what is experienced without insulatated external walls. An insulated ceiling only compounds the problem by not allowing the heat generated within the bricks from escaping through the roof.
So the bricks are heating up throughout the day with exposure to the sun then releasing it throughout the night into your house. They are cooled by the night air thus aborbing part of the heat they released thus cooling inside in the early hours.
It is a viscous cycle of brick veneer construction.
@@darrellturner560 So is there anything that can be done to reduce this effect?
@@orchdork775 tricky question without knowing the circumstances. Exhausting the roof space with a wind driven whirlygig can help. Improving crossflow ventilation is one of the best solutions. Ceiling fans is a good way of doing that. Shading the external walls somehow is a big help. I don't recommend growing trees around your house as that only brings other, sometimes much bigger issues. Verandahs and awnings are a good option.
@@HughMadBro because the bricks soak up the blazing sun all day long and release it at night, by the morning the heats gone,as the sun went down 8 hours before & now the bricks are cool,untill the sun warms them around 1-2 in the afternoon I think
It's okay to disagree and remain respectful. It's disturbing to disagree and use hate to threaten the person in opposition.
I like the container idea, and have watched lots of videos on them, but they ARE a total pain in the arse to insulate. For the amount of money you spend buying a couple of containers, you could buy lots of wood and build a wooden based 'Large' cabin instead, and wood is a much better insulator then steel is. ;)
@@VauxhallViva1975 closed cell spray foam is the way to go here, but find a good spray foam person is hard if put on wrong it can be bad
at this time of year, hate keeps you warm; only if i could find a cute bab in opposition to hate with. than we can hate each other and keep each other warm
lol whatev.
Mansplaining has basically become to mean "men who disagree with women", but I really feel the need to use that phrase for people bringing her gender into the argument. These are probably the ones to be against identity politics, yet they use it divisively themselves.
It’s a pity some people automatically respond in anger when their trendy ideas are balanced against facts. I think you’re great!
Yeah...facts don't care about their feelings.
Because their rather be trendy and liked than real and honest, low self-esteem etc... Welcome to today's world.
Like windfarms ;-)
Alright who told her she’s not qualified to work as an architect because she’s female? Who sent those sexist comments.
@@rockyplayz1224 you did?
My husband has been obsessed with us making a container home one day because of the look and “cost”. The points you brought up in both videos confirmed everything I was thinking and concerned about!
Look into other small home options
Yeah this whole shipping container thing has become glamorized to the point where it's really not much cheaper. Just spend a little more money and have something that will last and is much easier to sale later if one chooses.
This is nothing to loose a good relationship really honey are you kidding me leave the guy alone on this trust me
@@OWlsfordshire So she should cater to his every whim regardless of how nonsensical they are? Really honey? You should let this alone, trust me.
You people have nevee been in a sheet metal shack and it shows
I have absolutely no experience in architecture or home building or anything like that. I'm just a curious person who loves when educators provide details, logical arguments, and entertaining content! I'm glad you didn't let the negativity you received affect you too much. Thanks for your awesome videos!
She underestimated just how low many people's comprehension skills are these days. They hear what they want to hear and yell at anybody that doesn't agree with them.
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 I mean, unless she monitorting the comments at this very moment she's not with us :p
That said, having just skimmed through the comments on the other video, I wouldn't say it was full of people getting angry and not comprehending. In fact, I saw a lot more agreement. It's just that you can only fill so much space saying 'I agree with you' on the comment line.
@@Bustermachine It’s possible that UA-cam removed threatening comments. & it’s also possible that she blocked them, therefor removing their comments.
The only reason I watched is because we had shipping containers where I worked, over 20 years ago, & I would not recommend them. But my friends, who have zero experience with them, insist on arguing for some reason. Also, worked in the mobile home industry, & would not recommend those either.
Sounds like my dad
I did not find the "scam" phrase to be clickbait - it was exactly what you talked about, and you made your point quite well. I'm sorry you had to take so much grief for a perfectly sensible video.
Minor point: being a bad idea is not the same thing as being a scam. Scam implies fraud or intentional dishonesty. Do we know whether shipping container homes are a scam or just a bad idea?
@@piotrm0 That's a fair point. I guess the reason I would consider "scam" a fair assessment is that they are very commonly promoted as a quick, cheap, and environmentally-friendly solution, when in fact they are often none of these, especially not the last one. More importantly, the people marketing them as such would have to know this, having run into these issues themselves.
So is it 100% a scam? I don't think so; I think there are legit uses and situations for container buildings. But it's not unfair to label a video about the scam side of it with the word "scam".
@@piotrm0 "scam" is a loaded word, and not the the most descriptive and correct word to use, sure, but it also wasn't a completely incorrect word given the colloqual use of "scam" in everyday english.
the accusations of clickbait were totally disproportional to the quality of the video. the video was concise and all the points were relevant to the topic. meanwhile, much lower quality, more clickbait-y videos from other creators seem to get a fair pass for using more eye-catching, less accurate titles.
imo, it's not the "clickbait" they have a problem with. it's that a professional and woman of color was dispelling a popular trendy fantasy, as evidence by the harassment based on her identity.
I think the issue is (assuming the word "scam" would mean "knowingly misleading to extract profit") that the video didn't clearly illustrate that fact. Usually the "scam-revealing" video type focuses on somebody making money by tricking others first, and why the idea is bad comes second to that. But the video in question just mentions how much attention these homes get and that there are issues that get overlooked, but doesn't make any allegations that someone actively hides that info from public or makes profits that they really shouldn't have if it wasn't for their misinformation.
I don't disagree with the assessment that it might actually be happening, just saying that it might've created expectations about the video that weren't matched. That being said, absolutely doesn't justify the amount of fuss it created, but I see it as miscommunication that could've been avoided
“Scam” was, for sure, click bait. Skipping that and only using the rest of it is pretty dry and many people won’t… click. I don’t see it as a scam. Just a dumb trend that’s not well thought out.
You are talking to the Internet, where majority of the people are not professionals.
And loudest voices are usually from the trolls.
Ur wrong. After internet, everybody is phd master expert in anything 😂😂😂
I know im right cause i use internet 😉
@@mat-bh so you're an expert regarding the type of people that use the internet? 😂😂
@@mateuz8038 😂😂😂 thats the truth
HEY! I AM NO TROLL!! I AM JUST UGLY!!!
Welcome to America! 😂
Hey Belinda. I just wanted to leave a comment of appreciation. I'm a single adult in a pretty significant amount of debt from having failed a few attempts at getting an education. I'm now a fully licensed teacher, but can look forward to more than a decade of paying off my student loans, which sucks a lot. Tiny homes therefore appealed to me, and having worked previously with shipping containers I thought of it as a no-brainer that they could be converted into living spaces. I was thrilled to see that others had had the idea before, and I began to dream of having a cool shipping container home somewhere. You were the first person who ever brought up insulation issues and condensation concerns, which is something I've had issues with living in several shoddy apartments. Your single video has cured me of my unfounded belief that shipping containers were the be all end all solution to my dreams of being a home owner.
This is a good thing, since I'm now sure I'll do thorough research into other types of tiny homes or modular homes before settling on a concept. Architects are important. Thank you for your insights.
You could use a shipping container to build the following:
A sleepout.
A mancave.
A garden shed.
But not a high rise apartment building. Sorry guys.
My cousin Bought a 20foot Container and and made a Gaming den with it, It looks pretty cool, though that was when you could get a good used one for it's scrap weight
@Horizonshot a sweet duck blind, doomsday bunker, etc
i respect the idea at least, would be kinda cool
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@@lezlow5890 by "gaming den" I bet that didn't include snooker... A full size table is 6' x 12'
It is refreshing to see someone express their opinion backed by hard facts. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
I'm keen to know why she hates container homes so much... 😂
Yes, but facts irritate Democrats, hence the "once you've drank the Kool-aid" :)
@@ON-EightySix You must have missed her first video. It wasn’t hate. It was a list of FACTS.
@@ghazman6141 WTF? Just gotta work throw this in out of nowhere, irrespective of relevance? Just obtuse humor I hope.
@@ghazman6141 because facts don't care about our feelings, soft liberals can't handle it.
I mean, why are people SO mad at you?! This conversation is literally just about shipping containers, not like even religion, or politics. Thanks for making these videos! I didn't think about all these things when I first fell in love with shipping container architecture and I appricate you raising these concerns.
I think the problem that some people have with the few videos I've seen from her is that they're one-sided and negative in their arguments, without any counter balance. I'm an architectural sustainability consultant, and she makes some really good points! I'm not in favor of shipping container homes 90% of the time, and the 10% is usually due to the cool factor and not because it's a better method. But the video in reference was a bit of a takedown video without saying what the preferable alternative was, so it's not as educational as it could have been. She did mention a couple times of how it was cheaper to build with wood, but I think the average person would walk away from that video saying "shipping container homes suck" and not "this type of construction is better than shipping containers, and here's why".
Again, she makes good points, but I'm not sure who's being helped by her being right.
@@jonmatle Thats a good point! It would have been nice to see more of a balance in the video. But, in this case, I didnt come away thinking that "shipping containers suck. I just hadnt thought about it serious enough to consider the stuff she said when imagining all the cool stuff I could do with the containers. Originally, I just thought it was a cheap way to make a cool house, which it doesnt seem that way anymore. Shipping containers are just another tool to create the sort of house you want to, rather than a silver bullet to avoid cost and building a frame.
They bought the pitch!
I don't think the anger has much to do with the topic. Some people are looking for any reason to be upset because there is a certain class of person who is looking for a reason to let their real self out of it's box and somehow being angry is a justification for personal insults, misogyny, racism etc.
@@jonmatle Honestly? I was considering a build, I hadn't considered the structural points, the possible condensation issues or the thermal issues. She has likely saved me some time/ money .
I am 2 years late to this Belinda but I must say that I love your work. As an architect myself I have been asked about shipping containers a few times. Yours is the most succinct response I have seen. Thank you. Keep fighting the good fight.
I just watched your "shipping container scam video", and I have to admit, I was prejudiced by the huge amount of thumbs-down. Yet I still watched it, and you were making a couple of valid , comprehensible points. So in my opinion there is absolutely nothing wrong with your video, you delivered what the title promised, and you gave valid criticism about the idea of shipping container homes.
Just wanted to tell you this to balance out these socially challenged people making insulting, racist, sexist and personally attacking comments.
The problem with the low IQ people is that, if someone spot the light on a displeasant reality, they process it in a way that person is somewhat responsible for its existence -like some sort of dark magician- rather than taking it as a heads up about something they were not yet to be aware of. They believe in people manipulating the facts rather than pointing them out.
She's an interesting person for sure. Some of what she said in the scam video has been debunked as wrong. Some of what she said was true. Some of what she said was her opinion that is a minority view point in the architecture world and first time home builder world. I respect the hell out of her for her ideas though, and hope she gives people like myself(first time home builder/buyer in the next 6 months) a good alternative if she's so down on container homes.
The title perfectly encapsulated the video and detailed how the whole thing is a scam. They don't save the environment, are unsafe, mostly impractical and haughty. People overpay for the aesthetics and use wasteful methods to make them viable home or they propose to use weathered scrap to build affordable housing or homeless shelter. They pat themselves on the back as they tell the poor to live in literal garbage.
The provocative click bait title is probably part of the reason people got so riled up about the video. She could have named it "Why Shipping Container Homes are Overrated" and I'm sure the response wouldn't have been as vitriolic.
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WELL DONE...!!! I am a shipping container nut. But when I saw your video critique of the concept I fully understood your position and how you came to that position. Your arguments were definitely well thought out and presented, so keep doing your thing and those of us with decency, honesty, and common sense will continue to hold you up high for your freedom to express your ideas.
Kudos! I too believed shipping container homes were a responsible and economical build until your last video. I appreciate your reasoning & common sense approach that were overlooked. I’d hate to be in a wallowing money pit due to poor preparedness. Your points are legitimate. Hats off to you, as you forge forward amid nay sayers, disrespectful, racial epithets, threats and the like. May this black female’s nod go along way. Continue posting content. New subscriber. Thank you for your time & steel clad point of view.
@Trevor GuthrieMostly Disagree, while the zoning laws the USA can be insane but then you have Brasil where the zoning laws are not enforced.
@@simplyalon they aren't a got option. Price a cement wall home with insulation systems like thermomass.
I have to agree. she did an excellent job describing some of the challenges one might face in using a shipping container as a foundational start to a tiny home. All good points to be considered if one chooses to follow this path.
Being an enginneer, I agree with the points you've raised in the last video. And glad that someone has made a video of such realistic expectation. Good job in creating awareness in such blind trend-followers.
@@Yroxz Having done it myself and failed a little but suceeded also a little, I totally agree with you.
But it did work out in the end for the industrial and residential projects I designed and built.
Oh, the enthusiasm of youth !
I watched this video because I watched the other one. So well-prepared, well-spoken, and well-presented. I have no interest in building homes but have been wondering why “they” can’t just make homeless shelters with shipping containers. I didn’t feel stupid, I felt informed and educated. Thank you so much. I admire your professionalism.
She is literally giving us professional advice for free. Be grateful. This is why there’s the saying don’t cast your pearls before hogs. But please keep posting! Many of us appreciate your pearls of wisdom.
it is not the info most people have an issue with. most agree with her reasons why containers are a bad idea. The container homes ARE a bad idea and NOT a scam idea. the idea is sound until you dig into the reality of the idea and than you can (like she did) find the reasons why the idea is a bad one. that is what she came across in saying and that is what most replies agree with, just the title to her video that everyone has an issue with.
@@joeydepalmer4457 Nothing is a scam per se, if you look at it that way. Even your 50 percent per day credit rate isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea.
It's always the scammer who makes it a scam. And you bet there are a lot of scammers out there, who advertise their container solutions as a luxury palace.
dont drink the koolaid.
She is Not an Expert, and knows Nothing about Architecture or Construction.
She repeatedly Lies about this subject, especially the Scam aspect.
What is a Scam is People like her that are allowed to Slander other Reputable Business Owners.
If you think this was honest and informative then you seriously need to take stock.
@@jamesfall8259 Let me guess: You're a dealer specialized in selling shipping container homes to other people? 😂
You can find Mrs. Carr's CV on the internet. Quite young, Bachelor of Architecture from a UAE university, a Master of Architecture from the University of Cincinnati, lots of practical experience gained in various architecture companies in UAE and all over the USA, now she makes a living as an independent consultant in architecture, at the same time she runs her own company, and still she finds the time to make high quality videos... I'd say that could go through as "knowing something about architecture or construction", don't you think?
Ok, and now let's talk about you: What do *you* have on offer? What does *your* CV look like? 😉
There's nothing more guaranteed to draw people's ire on the Internet than questioning the newest trendy technocratic bullshit. Pay 'em no mind. Your arguments were calmly articulated, well considered and restrained (more restrained than I'd be...). Love the channel and can't wait to learn more!
Ugh....this right here.
next she'll be saying Elon musk didn't invent the concept of tunneling
@@deadsi or that the hyperloop wouldn't work.
@@butchjohnson9736 oh man, the sooner LA spends 10 billion dollars of taxpayers money replacing their archaic infrastructure with a hyperloop network, the sooner they can show the rest of the world how much better things can be
I think people just really want everything to be reusable, even though some things are designed to do only one thing well.
Amatures telling experts who have devoted their lives to home building, engineering and architecture that they are wrong is hillarious. Belinda, thanks for your wonderful insight and logic.
Well you cant blame people for having a distrust agaisnt experts when a lot of them are bussy with exploiting and scamming.
But yeah it was kinda funny in this video ppl trying to refute common sense just because and expert said it.
"Don't let people get you down. Whether they are faceless strangers on the internet, or people in your life. It's not worth it." Amen, sister.❤
Lol poor baby😂
your first shipping container video was the first video that introduced me to you. I clicked because my fiance and I were interested in the whole shipping container idea for a home. Listen. I love how you handled yourself, and this made me a fan of yours off the bat. One of the reasons I want to live off-grid is to get away from what society is turning into. Complete craziness. People don't know how to disagree without vulgar actions. I learned a long time ago that when people lash out at you, its generally because they themselves are truly unhappy somewhere in their life. It's nothing you did. Just keep up the good work and keep making vids. It really was useful info and my fiance and I appreciate it.
Yeah, black America agrees with you .....
@@ShadowbannedbyUA-cam I hear ya... this white Canadian agrees also.
This white American agrees, too.
I just stumbled upon your videos today. I watched the one about the "scam" of shipping containers and this one and they are amazing! You can tell that you really know your stuff. I'm an architecture student too and as far as I can tell, everything you said was accurate and well stated. I think that the nay-sayers are just emotionally attached to their dreams of doing a self-build of a container home. It's likely that those people haven't been exposed to alternative methods of building frugally and small and so their hopes are set on the shipping containers. Please don't be discouraged by the negativity. People who are better informed on building science are going to agree with you, because you have correct information.
I work in construction and have never heard anybody talk about using containers. A couple carpenters can frame out a large shed sized building in a couple days. Of course I've seen tons of dumb stuff. Recently, saw a home built in Sweden(?) using recycled wood that was then disassembled and shipped to Colorado. $12M. The carpenters are my buddies and I've seen them deliver better quality for 10% of that.
Nah...They just pretend on social media to be living off grid and tiny, but they make a shit load of money off it (you tube), and have a real house, but people think they are really of grid...a strange phenomenon, with social media.
It is so frustrating that when people can't make a well thought out, rational, reasonable argument - they resort to attacking the person. Gender and race are just two easy cards for people to hit when they're frustrated by not being able to support their position intelligently. I'm glad you didn't let them bring you down and put together another intelligent and thoughtful presentation.
I really appreciate your educated perspective because all of the tiny home/ container home videos only talk about how amazing the interiors look for such a low cost. We need videos like this where you’re speaking on the cons so that we can make a more informed decision on whether or not to actually take on this type of extreme project. Thank you for your video, it helped me a lot and I am definitely reconsidering my approach to home building.
I was involved in installing the electrical system in a home built of a half-dozen containers. We are in a heating climate, and to their credit, the designers chose to frame, insulate and clad the outside, so the vapour barrier (steel shell) is on the inside. But this meant we had to run most of the wiring in the outside walls, bringing it through plastic grommet-protected holes to surface-mounted PVC device boxes in the interior.
Everything we did was more of a pain than usual. Picture a normal rough-in, where all the walls and ceiling are open for running wiring and you can literally walk through walls to move around. Now imagine what it's like to pull wire in outside walls where just getting from A to B means running up and down ladders and walking around or into and out of the building. Many operations easily done working alone in normal construction required two workers to be practical in this inside-out situation.
Had it been my choice I'd have gone totally industrial and run exposed EMT on the interior surface. Your walls are corrugated steel for Pete's sake, why not embrace it? (And have complete flexibility for future changes to boot.)
Lovely acoustics with those metal interior walls, BTW. 🙄
I agree wholeheartedly with all of Belinda's concerns. So much of that project seemed to me like a misguided exercise in novelty that ended up being more complicated and more expensive - for no perceivable benefit - than almost any other method would've been.
The owners - architects who designed it for themselves as a four-season cottage - put it on the market not long after it was finished. I don't know exactly why, but I can guess...
Edit: PS I have a container. It's mounted on screw piles, with solar panels on the roof, and the only modification to the shell is a couple of vents. Inside: shelves. On the shelves: stuff.
If you need to build an entire structure around the outside of the container, then the obvious question is: what was the point of the container?
@@leigh9360 My thought exactly.
What is EMT? some kind of conduit tube?
I've always thought shipping containers worked well as a shed or shop, even a garage. But not to live in.
@@jacobw3652 Yes, Electrical Metallic Tubing. If you see metal conduit somewhere it's almost always EMT, as opposed to rigid metal conduit which is much thicker and is threaded to make connections, like gas pipe. EMT is too thin to thread.
Most any building method can produce a useful dwelling if it's done properly, but I agree with you. I love my container for secure storage, but that's it.
Good to hear a tradie's perspective on this.
I've been thinking of building a container home(s) and greatly appreciate your previous video identifying potential concerns, very helpful!
Much better ways to build and get the features container fans promote.
What are you a high conspiracy freak? "THEM"
@@IrishKingzz
my first thoughts?
.. light steel framing pre-built in panels
.. post + beam structure
.. SIPS
.. prefab structures
.. or combination of two or more of the above
@@kazoosc OH these guys are illiterate. Those are a few. I do cast on place rigid insulation with helix micro rebar and thermomass wythes. Tpo flat roof.
But she could have used a decent title.
The big problem with our society is that people like "cool" stuff. And if facts interfere with cool stuff. That's a problem.
I just found your channel, keep up the good work. I love it.
Like tesla cyber truck.
Because it has "tesla" and "cyber" in its name.
I keep saying this!
I love new and cool tech, but I will never purchase, hell, find cool, a container home.
Thank you for questioning this trend. I was enamored with them, too. Your video made me think. Good work!
You have expressed yourself in a way that can be appreciated and understood by any reasonable person. I'm so grateful I found your channel, you answered all my questions about inhabiting a shipping container.
Heh, I mean, I'm Mexican, the first time I saw that "shipping container" Video I was astonished because... Corrugated Metal is used by very VERY poor people... You can buy a thousand bricks relatively cheap in my country, and its much more common to build your home in pieces, step by step as you continue to work, add another room, finish the floor etc, by that time you're already tearing down the Corrugated Metal that is, by now, filled with holes and rusting because no one haves the money to take care of it!. When the guy in the Video started "isolating" The container all I could think was "that looks work intensive and expensive..."
I live in Canada and I wish I could just build a concrete block house one room at a time, like the ones I admired in Baja, and be able to live in it comfortably. Oh well.
Some people seem to forget that shipping containers are just that - a metal box meant to hold goods for 1-3 months during transport during which they will not have any breech, like opening of doors or anything. Some even have cooling and freezing capabilities for the goods. None of them are made for living, least of all permanently. I understand the desire to reuse them, but why not use a 20ft container as a shed in the garden that holds your summer activities for the winter, the lawnmover, garden utensils, table, chair and anything else that will look poor if outside left over winter. Especially plastic chairs and tables get an ugly patina. With wood furniture you could fold them down and set them aside in a shed repurposed from a shipping container. You could also has part of set up as your garden workshop and move your tools to your basement over winter. if you don't care about all you have to do to make it livable and the chemicals in the paint and the poor quality of the metal and the fact that any cutting into the frame will need new supports and you don't care about your money by all means go and ''save'' a container from being melted down when it is a end of life.
@@chrisdrysdale4311 I completely forgot that most other countries have regulations on buildings... in Mexico all we've got is "kinda" "maybe" "probably" zoning and even then no one cares...
If you buy a lot, you can mostly do whatever you want with it (as long as no one complains, better said, you don't bother the neighbors), I think only in historical sites it's more regulated (and again, you can tell them to F-off and they mostly do)
Same! I'm from Venezuela and that corrugated metal look is always associated with poorness here, because we only really see it in what we call "invasiones" where people just start building houses out of scraps in abandoned land.
It was really weird at first to see it's actually a trend lol
same in most countries. poor areas have corrugated metal shelters. no real organized paths or roads. and families strive for permanent shelter so they start making walls & rooms one at a time from brick or concrete.
" Where do you think steel comes from? " Epic
I admit that left me stand lol
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Im on the fence on the subject but when you think about it. Whats better for the environment. Wood house that you cant use second hand wood so all them trees need to be chopped down to make the beams for your house or The shipping container that was made with or without your home and served its use already.
Making it a home is simply making it so instead of a part of your house build process being the destructing of trees, turning trees into wood beams etc, we skip that and there is no impact to the earth from extracting resources from it.
Now if you are buying a brand new container then that is different. That would mean the resource gathering and manufacturing of the container was done 100% for the house and not to transport goods
Basically. Why take resources from the earth to build your house when you can recycle in turn we use less of the earths resources
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I might be late to the party, but I remember when I first watched your video on the shipping container video I actually thought "wow". I was so impressed with the amount of analysis and honestly it really did change my perspective on shipping container homes. From then on I've always had so much respect for you, not following a 'trend'.
I have started using the term "Environmental Industrial Complex" to refer to things that instead of being environmentally positive, are intended to package up the idea of environmentalism in a product that can be bought, regardless of the environmental impact. Parts of this video remind me of that concept. We really need to question everything, keep thinking, and not let others do the homework for us.
I like that term, it's more commonly know as "green washing" by sustainability buffs. Something appearing to be a green solution or selling that idea, but it's actually the exact opposite.
Greenwashing is a term that means that exactly and is already in the common lexicon! And i totally agree with you.
Yeah I think green washing is the right term as the other comments said. "Environmental Industrial Complex" kind of implies that there is some interaction between environmentalists and industry to make up these bad idea fads, and I don't think that's true (maybe you see it differently). This is instead just non-environmentalists trying to make money by selling something and taking advantage of peoples' desire to do something good. They do it by lying, obfuscating, exaggerating, etc, and they are anything but environmentalists.
@@TheJohnreeves I do think that there is. I think some of the overwhelming evidence is the fact that the moment that we get practical environmental technologies that could positively affect things, the environmentalists immediately find reasons to discount it. The only thing we can possibly use is something that hasn't been invented yet, despite the fact that clean energy sources have been available for over 100 years.
We create and they buy us off and leave it on the shell until they can find a way to make it ilegal for you to use it! Water, air, light, etc everything is taxable as long as we believe in it's scarcity!!! Or polutent effect for all that matter...
And you didn’t even mention the roofing issue. All container homes need to have a roof put on. I’m a builder and I agreed with everything you said.
That was something that as a northern Midwesterner was immediately on my radar when it came to container homes. There's a reason flat roofs are very uncommon for homes in the northern Midwest - the roof has to be *at least* 10 degrees in order for the snow to fall off at a bare minimum. If you get a heavy snowfall followed by a cold snap (which is extremely common) and you've only got the minimum pitch on your roof? You'd probably better get out there with a snow rake and remove the snow from your roof. No need to court roof collapse, you know?
I think the average roof pitch is around 30 degrees just to be on the safe side, but I'm not entirely sure on that. It's going to depend on your state as to what the actual building codes require and for some reason, commercial buildings are allowed to have flat roofs here - which is part of the reason they all seem to suffer leaks after a certain number of years, no matter how good the drainage system they build into the roof is.
The sound of rain hitting the metal roof would be almost unbearablw
@@TheLakabanzaichrg disagree there. I grew up in a house with a tin roof in TX. It was..... beautiful, to listen to, and to this day, I have an absolute love of rain hitting my car's roof as well.
Hail.... on the other hand, rings out like a bell when it hits the roof. Horrible, horrible to listen to for hours on end.
@@TheLakabanzaichrg this is false...i know this because my workplace has a container as a tool shed and its pretty silent when it rains...not that i would want a "container home" anyways.
@@ripvanwinkle6449 I agree, I love the sound. Living under a pitched tin roof right now, it's great.
As someone who has spent years dealing with shipping containers, I can safely say that I would NEVER live inside one as a house. The amount of water that drips down on a regular basis when it gets hot is enough to tell me that it would be a nightmare to sanitize the interior to prevent mold growth. Might as well just start from scratch material.
“I’m threatened to lose business because people can build their own homes” yes let’s see these people living in shipping containers come together and build skyscrapers?
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it's like saying "your job as a professional chef is threatened now that people can cook their own food" lmao, cant fault the logic there
@@moldyboy354 Can't imagine a college kid cooking for a 5 star resturant.
@Imafraid Jumitebeeinnagang that is not true at all. If any5hing,its the governments fault for the rules they put in place because of covid.
@@cor1817 bruh wut
I like this woman she talks a lot of sense ,why people don't like this video is because she is totally right 🤣💯
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I lived in a school bus home growing up, and condensation was an ongoing problem. So that was the first thing I thought of when I first saw container homes. I rarely see the issue talked about in videos.
I was thinking about that, too. My brother is building a schoolie. Not because it's cool, but because he wanted to be able to move it. But I worry for him about condensation now. He has a small fireplace inside that should help reduce moisture. And he insulated with wool, which is supposed to be more resistant to moisture and mold. But I still have a little concern for him. I really hope he will be happy in his home.
I was very serious about using shipping containers as a home and did loads of research and came up with designs and concepts but in the end the longevity, cost and effort was always biting back. Good of you to share!
I was in the same boat as well. I looked at many tiny home designs and of course shipping containers came up. I ended up with a wood modular home.
Level-headed, well-educated and knows her subject, what a surprise that she is not well-received on the internet.
Gave me a chuckle. Thanks.
But my feeeeeeelingsssss.
If ever I need an architect to design me a home I would hire you in a heartbeat... your calm logic and that nifty phrase "science of design" won me over. Hello from Canada.
I'm a little late to this particular party, but I really do appreciate how thoroughly you've explained all this. I live in a town where shipping container construction is a trend, and it's comforting to have some of my suspicions confirmed.
Coming from an architecture/engineering/property development family, I have to commend you for your expertise and even more for your level-headedness in the face of internet adversity. You have presented both videos with solid facts, research and precedents, and design logic first and foremost. There will always be internet scum who will seek confirmation bias. I'm so happy to finally see someone whose maturity can face up to the internet's trademark idiocy. I'd say don't let it get you down and stay strong, but you're definitely several steps ahead!
As someone who spend a lot of time overseas living in shipping containers as both home / office I can attest your last video was spot on with the issues. I dealt with the mold due to the issues you mentioned in your videos.
This lady is so lovely and level headed. She just blew apart the shipping container trend in 2 short videos.
SHE REALLY DID
How did she blow away shipping containers? Have you bee in construction? How many worksites and years of experience do you have?
@@shawnchong5196 Hi mate, maybe watch it again and things may get become clearer for you to understand.
And yes I do have extensive experience in the building industry.
Have a good one Shawn.
@@lachness3578 nah, she's an architect, and calling it a scam is ridiculous. I've been on 50+ large scale residential/industrial/commercial sites for >70% of construction (minus foundation). Also countless sites for sub contracting. I've never been part of container shipping built homes, only perused other contractors sites who performed them and discussed it. I have spent many a year working and living in on site container offices.
This garbage she's spewing is so one sided, she's totally not in tune with construction. I am not saying container homes are good, I'm just saying I've been to so many construction sites and know a shit tonne about costs, problems, with all manners of construction: wood, concrete, steel structures, 1-30 story residential, massive commercial shopping malls. For her to make a blanket statement like that is pure stupidity and shame to all architects.
She should talk about dimensions, the amount of work required, all the cutting and welding, other than that, the rest of the work is standard for construction. The comments she makes are nothing unsolvable and are common things builders would immediately bring up, it's just are you willing to put in the effort. My opinion is If you want some DIY project, better to just use Styrofoam blocks, I've done two large houses, and that's super easy, though you need to probably hire someone to build the roof, which wouldn't necessarily be the case with container shipping home.
What she should also mention is you need more than just one container, you'll need 2 or 3 to have enough usable floorspace: be prepared for a lot of grinding, but nothing difficult. Also just because you build a container home doesn't meant you shouldn't get proper foundations done. There is nothing wrong per se with container homes, again, it's more DIY because you will have to invest time yourself to save money.
@@shawnchong5196 fair enough.
Ah well, when you receive an avalanche of sexist, racist, abusive cyber-stalking for making logical points, you know you're onto something! Keep up the good work.
Thanks! I appreciate your alternative viewpoint on shipping container homes. By the time they're built out they're only 7 ft wide inside. Not for everyone, but might make a nice hunting cabin. And ignore the trolls, you are wonderful!
Pretty sure the people bending over backwards to force a shipping container home to work are just reliving their childhood days of building cardboard box forts but in an adult context
But unfortunately they're spending a lot more money on it this time. And they don't get to go back to their comfy bedroom at night. I hope it works out well for them. Really, I do. But I'm glad I'm learning before doing something like that myself.
Hey, your shipping container video was the first one of your videos that I've seen. I really liked the format, the content and your presentation. It made me watch a lot more of your stuff, and I think it's really good. Thanks for the solid, entertaining, educational content. I'm sorry there are so many jerks out there.
This was my first video too. I totally agree with you... on every point.
As an Architect, I can say her videos are outstanding and they should be issuing edu credits to architects just for watching her videos
same here Belinda. I subscribed to your channel after seeing your Playlist
keep up the good work
100% agreed!
Having a UA-cam channel with comments on will quickly reveal how irrational the human race can be.
true some comments can be negative and not helpful but by turning off comments, you rely on your own point and your own point by its self can have errors and you'll never improve on those errors because you're too closed minded to listen to others. its better to leave the comments on and skim through them and find the comments that fix your errors so you can have a better perspective. American has many voices, if you only listen to yourself, you can never improve.
@@robertbrainard5651 I agree with the spirit behind your comment - that it's important to keep an open mind, continue to reassess your own assumptions, and to listen to alternative viewpoints and arguments - but I frankly don't think UA-cam will ever be a good platform for this kind of dialogue (despite our exchanging of ideas right now). Any social media where you can vote on comments is going to heavily affect the nature of the discussion: quippy one-liners and jokes will be pushed toward the top, nuanced opinions and ideas will be overlooked or misunderstood, and people will be influenced by seeing how many upvotes other comments receive. Group mindset is a very real phenomenon, and social media unfortunately is designed to appeal to our basest instincts rather than reasoned, careful, honest debate.
True... I don't understand why Belinda is so sensitive about it .
In the briefest terms, humans are not a "race". We are a species.
@@samw355 _"...and social media unfortunately is designed to appeal to our basest instincts rather than reasoned, careful, honest debate."_ Oh my, I may have to quote you on this in the future.....many times.
It's essentially tragic that in this day and age so many people don't realize this, and even if given to their baser instincts normally, seem to completely let go and go crazy with viciousness when writing on the internet.
I know this was 2 years ago but have been researching container homes & watching your videos brought up questions I never thought about. Thank you
I had a trial run at my dream container build on a small scale with one 20 ft container 8 years ago. It proved to be far too costly to undertake a full size home. I always tell those who have similar dreams to see past the container myth, save themselves a lot of money and build conventionally. I think if I'd seen your video back then I still wouldn't have fully believed it. Some people really do need to find out for themselves.
Great stuff Belinda. I came here from the video you're responding to. I'm civil engineer (recently graduated) who's on the brink of jumping into shipping container construction, for my own home. I really appreciate the alternate view and I'm now enticed to do more research. Much gratitude to you for your very logical and scientific approach in what one may call criticising shipping container homes, though, from an engineering perspective, you have merely just analysed shipping container home constraints, and needless to say, that is an essential step in design. Also, I love how you've handled the irrational negative responses to your initial video. It shows that there are some positives we can take away from some UA-cam creators and personality. Keep at it!
The negative response to Belinda's video's shows that the honest facts about shipping container building has rubbed some people the wrong way. Why? because i'm convinced that social media and youtube are great platforms for releasing entertainment, but really poor platforms for actually educating people.
I love how you handled the backlash, thanks for the awareness
I am a retired Architect. You are right on target about containers. I have a vacation property where I remodeled an existing house and to store material for construction I purchased a one ship container. On several occasions I could see condensation had formed on stored items at times. I have looked at what I could do with the container and ran into all the issues you pointed out. My conclusion containers make great temporary storage containers. Look forward to viewing more of your videos.
"A frickin' UA-cam video..." best take I've heard all day
It's mind-blowing that people can listen to well-founded, scientifically-backed assertions from an educated professional and think they know better. The Dunning-Kruger effect is so real.
That reminds me of Covid
I did my undergrad in Applied Biosciences and Biotechnology and would find myself having to get into arguments with people about how 5G can't cause you to get the Corona Virus and how airborne diseases and viruses work. Just ended up not listening to them
@@anthonyanth8368 And how do they think 5G can give you the Cov?
It doesn’t blow my mind. I’m jaded after encountering:
* Abrahamic creationists
* Holocaust deniers
* Anti-vaccination advocates. And COVID deniers
* Jesus Mythicists
* Cannabis legalisation advocates
* Deniers of accepted social science surrounding gender identity
* Advocates for vegan diets
* Promoters of the flat earth theory
* Deniers of the 2020 US election results.
The fact is: We’re generally not that smart a species.
Flatearthers coviders antivaxxers an the list gets bigger every day sad to say
"If you get lost in the woods, try starting a campfire. Someone will soon come along to tell you that you're doing it wrong."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Priceless ! 👍👍👍
or try to play solitaire.
lol
I'm a pro container/tiny-home guy and very glad that you have put out a video that points out the unthought-about cons of building one of these. There is a lot that goes into any building project that a 5-20min video does not cover. A DIYer does not see the cons of building these...especially in the city, permits for the build, permit to shut down the street for the crain to drop the container, and hiring a cop for the day. Angry neighbors, slow-to-move inspectors....on and on. Love the thermal bridging, and moisture protection points that are not thought of. That 30-day build can turn into a 90 easily. This is still a new industry for us in the states and codes are being added yearly that can be costly to build. Thank you for making this.
I am a woman in IT.
I feel you sis.
What we just want to talk about tech and stuff? How dare we?
Some people just can't get over the fact, that woman can be huge nerds too.
You were correct. I've had a couple of clients withdraw well into a container based projects, due to cost blow outs. These things are not cheap, unless you want cheap.
Now when you build these things cheap you WILL BE SPENDING MORE MONEY on maintaining these things over there life compared to traditional build.
yeah that is what i think as well if they want a small foot print home why not do with wood and the lining up container to be structural sound also will pose many hindrance and extra cost to make it structurally strong and the insulation of the house if done outside is a better solution chances are they will try to make another form of wall inside to make it look ecstatically pleasing does loosing the purpose of a steel container home
I really appreciated your honesty and insight, thank you.
She looks so good in blue, hot! That's her color
Thank you for your insight.
The main advantage of a shipping container home is that you can drop in the containers and weld/seal them to be waterproof as the first building task you do, then live inside them while you build the rest of the home from the inside out.
You can live in a standard home while it’s under construction as they are typically not even weather/waterproof until 50% of the build is complete.
I’ve seen this shipping container advantage first hand and a friend of mine built a 10 shipping container home, over 3 years while living inside of it.
First they did foundations for 4 x 40 foot containers, sealed in, and moved in within 2 months. They then spent the next year fitting out those containers while living in them, saving 2 years of rent payments.
They then added another 6 x 20 foot shipping containers to the 4 already in place, and had them waterproofed in a 2 week period, while still living in the 4 containers they built earlier.
The ability the get out of the rent trap and live inside the waterproofed containers while under construction for years was a huge advantage for them, saving $60k of rent, being onsite all the time and not having to waste time in travel, and to be able to supervise all trades all the time because they were always there was substantial.
This is the PRIMARY benefit of building with shipping containers, not cost savings in materials (eg. they still had to build a sloping roof on the waterproofed containers to comply with the building code) or modularity, rather the ability to live inside them while completing the first fix, second fix, all the trades work and the compliance inspections, provided you’re prepared to live in an unfinished construction environment for the times it takes to complete.
Excellent, I was accepting the concept of Container Buildings at face value! You’ve provided valuable insight! I believe our values are aligned! Keep up the good work!
@@johnmichaeltwist5086 it was click bait, thats why you watched, you continued to watch because it was a good video
I'm looking into a sustainable build in Africa & thank you for enlightening me! You've have & will safe people time, labour & cost 💰. Good work done 👍
Shipping containers as habitable spaces are a TERRIBLE idea and no one can justify that they make sense unless you are ok spending more for less.
As someone who has lived in containers for several years, I can vouch that they are incredibly suboptimal for long-term accommodation. They are fine for what they are: easily transportable temporary housing that can be easily removed (and recycled) once the need has passed.
Once you don't need the transportability, almost any other construction option is more preferable.
I love how you've handled yourself, sister. Much respect to you. Also, your initial video was very informative and it definitely made me think twice about how to build my future tiny home. Thanks a bunch!
so what are you going to use
I know this video is from 4 years ago but I found it today. I'm not an architect or an engineer, but I've worked in construction my whole life. I share your opinions about shipping containers and it's refreshing to hear all this facts from an actual professional architect. Thank you!
I’m a civil engineer student, from PERU. And the “don’t let people let you down” phrase of the video was so moving for me. Great job stepping forward on your ideas and great feed.
Thank you Belinda, I've been looking to start an affordable housing project and have been seriously considering using shipping containers but you've given me some serious things to consider. I live in Canada and you comments on thermal conductivity and moisture control real made me think, I thought I had thought that aspect through but I hadn't. As you know Canada can get pretty cold and having had mold problems in brick and wood framed buildings in my personal past that is something I would prefer not to have to deal with ever again. I started seriously thinking about shipping containers because a friend of mine uses one as on site office for his geothermal construction projects, (his family runs a geothermal heating company and they do projects from the tundra to the Southern most parts of Canada as well as some in the northern USA) he insulated it and heats it with a tiny little electric heater. He uses it from early spring to late fall but not in the winter so he may not have noticed any mold problems. He also only uses it for a little while each day and only heats it when he's in it. So anyway thank you, you've swung me back to more traditional methods for my affordable housing project and since I'm still at the beginning and haven't actually bought any containers yet I'm not cursing you or anyone else out for bad decisions on my part 😉
I was a first in disagreement with the "Scam" portion of the initial video. I listened to the thoughtful argument and points and have finally agreed that the "S word" was appropriate. The idea as presented by most media/internet information about container homes is that it is a miraculous, cost effective, environment friendly solution to many problems. Our presenter here has laid out the exact cons to the supposed unsupported pros that most sites provide. I'm still thinking about a basic container home, but I have the information to really compare against a basic stick construction. Thank you :)
Cost effective is highly debatable. (CA is on the most-likely-not side.) Environment friendly is certainly is not. Taking 4t of recyclable steel out of the industrial economy is not the most green approach. Even a 45-48' container is pretty small space -- too small to be called a house in many places. Turning one into a living space is certainly possible, but a "good" space??? Almost everywhere has building codes that will require significant structural modifications -- i.e. windows and doors. (even I look out the windows from time to time.)
I’ve just watched your video and the previous one. As a British builder with nearly 50 years experience, I thought both of your videos were excellent, well balanced and thought provoking. Many thanks.
thank you for that "scam" video and this video. you actually made me come to a sense to not believe all what u've seen in UA-cam. it's good and simply logical.
@@crazygermanviper If I were a dumb as you, I'd stay quiet and hope nobody noticed.
Consider that certain professionals like to discourage cheaper homes.
Without doing any research, I had thought that a shipping container home might be a good idea. I was less than halfway through your first video on these when my mind was changed. So many of the fundamental building science issues seemed so obvious once you'd stated them. I whole-heartedly agree with your summary that there are better options. I've long understood that there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution to most things, and especially housing. Thanks very kindly for making these videos! I wish you great health. :)
As an architect who is approached by at least a half dozen potential clients yearly who wish to build with containers, I was pleased to watch your excellent video about the container scam. I passed it on to several who had hopes for a home made of shipping containers. Your video explains very cogently why shipping containers are not suited in any reasonable way as a residential building component, a point that I have been making for years. You are smart, you make great arguments, and your discussion of important construction and architecture issues is timely and highly informative. Keep up the great work, and don't let these ignorant haters stop you.
Great job on this and the original video! The way you break stuff down so that anyone can understand it is truly impressive. I'm considering building a container home for short-term rental property, but your last two videos really made me reconsider what is the best option. Keep making great videos!
I love everything about this response, from addressing the unnecessary vitriol, to the balanced and well-researched replies to the most interesting points raised in the comments. I'm sorry that you had to suffer cyber-bullying. I'm also relieved that you won't let it stop you! As someone who works in the mining and mineral exploration industry, my favourite part was "Where do you think steel comes from??" :)
A smart lady sharing her opinion on an often overlooked subject, the downside of a new fad (container homes). I thought container homes looked awesome but because I'm not an engineer of any kind I did not realize all of these points that Miss Carr was kind enough to detail for us through the lens of her experience and learning. Thank you for not riding the hype train and educating those of us who want to learn!! :)
Glad I bought this one ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxT9ExVpR-3A-9rpRqx8vzXKZ3BMMTg_KH . I had a customer looking for a shed that didn't look 'prefab' and was rustic, but "cute" (her term). I showed her the cover of the book and, with a few modifications, she was sold. I've never built a shed but I do have some framing knowledge. The info on roofing is very helpful to me. I was also psyched that the section for the shed on the cover had measured drawings for the trim boards and keystone pieces for the gable ends and over the windows. Should make life a little easier for me.
It is hard to be a deep thinker on UA-cam. I appreciate you putting yourself out there and offering such sage advice and conversation about this topic. Much love.
Yea people get so fucking triggered
I am an engineer and have been building equipment buildings for over 40 years. Any time someone wanted to use a shipping container for their equipment they were just looking for something cheap. They are always surprised when my price ended up being more than a metal building started from scratch. There are a few instances where they make sense.
EVERYTHING YOU SAID WAS SPOT ON! Don't feel like you have to defend/explain yourself. I loved your video about 3D Printed homes (aka walls :-) )
I am late this this whole thing, but the "it's hurrican resitant" part made me laugh. All of Europe fixed that problem with homes that can last centuries. But no containers. Golden.
Those homes that “all of Europe” built survived a lot of hurricanes, eh?
What hurricanes?
Assuredly, when you hit that hair trigger on the haters and trolls, your information is valuable! Thank you! Well done!
The first video was great. It made a lot of sense and helped put to bed the myth of easy, affordable, sustainable housing via using a shipping containers. And I was glad to see a educated woman of color present a well reasoned argument against using shipping containers as homes. He good luck getting insurance for your shipping container home. Keep up the good work. You’re a Shero! 🏆
I absolutely agree. The moment you take a standard container and attempt to modify it to "increase width-space," you are stepping into major complications. The container by itself was designed to be strong and any changes will effect structural integrity. I can only think of two simple and cost effective ways if one wants to use containers to build a home.
1. Stack as many as you want side by side. Take out the doors from one side. On this side running in front of the open doors, build a long hallway-like structure. I suppose you could use metal or wood. Then over everything with a roof. The containers will still have all their strong points. The only issue will be that you will have several.long rooms to use however you wish. It would look like a "hotel" arrangement. And you will use the hallway to go from one to the other.
2. A barn-like structure. You can do this with sturcturally unmodified containers by placing them apart and building a roof over them. You will need to secure the "walls" which are the contaoners themselves to the ground so that they do not move/shift apart. Then you can subdivide the space in the middle as you desire.
The point on interior insulation is 100% valid. Metal heats and cools rapidly. The best way to insulate is from the outside. Place studs on the outside and insulate. Then cover the insulation with plywood, hardiplank or vinyl siding. This keeps the heat from directly impacting the metal.
I am no expert but this is the only cheap and non-complicated way I can think of using containers to make a house.
Guy1: We have to many empty containers lying around, what do we do?
Guy2: Lets tell everyone it's awesome to build homes with!
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Pretty good reality check for me personally, I was spiralling down a road of container homes just being 100% a great idea, and I wasn't making a fair assessment of all the pros and cons. So thanks for your analysis and balance and don't take the extremist keyboard warriors to heart. You earned my respect and subscription, keep up the great work.
I've lost count of the number of years I've wanted a container home. I was ready to battle my county, it completely rejects container homes being built here. But, because of your "scam" video which I thought was very insightful, I am rethinking that option. Many people in this world are hateful and cruel, don't let the haters change the way you give everyone else important things to think about before we make very expensive mistakes both financially and health wise. Be you, thank you!
Yeah trade an affordable and resourceful home for a 300k mortgage and a housing market that will leave you with nothing in the future.
@@philxdev Straw and clay would not be a good outside wall surface in wet area. There is still water from the outside weather that you need to keep away from the steel walls, or provide a way for it to drain away. Straw & clay are usually good for dry climates, and you usually want to have a long roof overhang to protect the straw & clay from rain.
@@jimbaranski4687 not sure what you mean by wet area.. but if done correctly it can withstand wet climate without any major problems.. they did build clay houses in england for centuries and they have much rain.. but yeah you are correct you need a good roof with overhang and protection from below so the walls are standing on dry feet.. for everything else there is a solution, like a mineral plaster / coating (semipermeable), wooden planking ( with or without ventilation behind)..
and yeah having steel walls on the outside is not optimal in so many ways.. that is why I would only use containers as inner structure..
@@philxdev wouldn't it be smarter and less costly to simply build a steel frame structure not limited by container dimensions? the amount of customisation and reinforcing quickly exceeds the purchase price of the containers
@@malvaizn Real Estate is an investment in time, and one of the best investments you can make; mobile homes, tiny homes, travel trailers and shipping containers are not investments, there shelter and that's how the bank see's them.
Before I would advise building a home out of shipping containers i'd learn how to build my own home and keep it simple, but safe. Belinda's advice in the two video's is factual and realistic. Resourceful? sure. its a corrugated steel box with no insulation, heating, cooling, plumbing or electrical.
Im an architect and builder. I listened to your first bit and now I am going to listen to this. You hit all the points that I have been wondering about, the temp differential leading to condensation, the non cantilever ability of them and the one I didnt think of, torch cutting that nasty paint. One is better off just buying framing steel and concrete pads, as you stated, the size from the get go is too small. Thanks for all this.
The haters must be making their living from building or selling container homes.
Most are either hardcore hippies who hate "the man" or those who think university is a communist indoctrination camp.
@@louiscypher4186 I tend to think it could be the hardcore hippies. They think container homes benefit the environment greatly but this video debunks all the fallacies they believe in.
I have done a lot of research on the shipping container solution. All of your points are logical and correct. I think the point is they aren't a scam. They just aren't a singular solution. As in all things you have to understand the subject fully. I think you brought that to a head in a good way. Thanks for the video.
I think her argument that not disclosing all of the complications while touting it as an inexpensive and perfect alternative is scammy. Particularly when it can have dangerous consequences and they pretend to have no environmental impact when it truly is quite large.
@@livijean1 i think her back paddling and deleting comments after being called out by real construction professionals and that people dont see it is insulting and proves fans are just blind to facts and that more of what she talked about is not only known and talked about in the Container home videos but required to comply to build code in many countries! She compares a self built container to a Professional built home? WTF thats stupid? and again she insulted the companies that build these the Cheap and safe way!
Also she cries about people attacking her? that is what happens on ALL platforms and if she does not like it maybe she should stop (Considering she deleted valid points)
Some of what she said in the Video was wrong and she knows it but she will cry victim cause it seems thats the new defence for everything?
also drinking the cool aid might not want to be the comment you use when taking the high ground... Makes her sound more like a 15 yr old not happy people challenge her!
yeah she rightefully meant that the "scam" is not the container itself .. but the people praising them and especially the ones doing it for monetary reasons, be it just a "hipster" youtube video riding the popularity of this topic or people who are actually selling container homes... so the word scam is totally fine within this topic "container homes"
NecrOkies wow, apparently this is very personal to you and it a big deal. Sounds like someone wasn’t prepared for mass backlash and responded in self defense. How disappointingly human of her. You’re right, she should be perfect and know exactly how to react and tell everyone that they are right and she is a terrible person. Your logic is obviously flawless and you are now the god of UA-cam. I’m glad you took the time to respond to a total stranger in such an aggressive way and solved world hunger in the process. Your one comment abolished the need for government and war. Wow, congrats on your accomplishments in one comment.
If you're using them for shipping, they're not a scam. If you're selling them as a solution to housing shortages or affordability, they're a scam.
If you’re upset about the word “scam” in the title, that just shows that you don’t agree with her but that’s the only thing you can criticize is the title.
Is that what Wojak would say?
The algorithm encourages creators to use inflamatory and catchy titles, so I personal don't usually mind them much.
When I hear and see you I sometimes feel I am listening to myself. In one of your segments you mentioned Architects coming from Colleges have no constrruction knowledge and only contractors are good source. I agree as I hired an architect graduate as project manager and failed. I also agree with you that container homes are scams. Many people see them advertized on Ebay by Chinese for just few thousand dollars not realizing various pitfalls. Just because they are easily transportable on trailer, some people have no idea how difficult they are to import, transport and build to codes. They are good for some mountain properties as guest living or on ranches but not for normal living. Changing bed sheet is diffcult as width is limited to 7'-6" inside. As a builder of these units I have made several changes and finally made some acceptable versions after spending time and money. What you have and are saying is 100% correct. Ignore those who are idiots by birth.
No, ignorant BY DESIGN AND DUE TO EGO!
You were sharing some information that was to help people make a decision on a container home. I think it was very informative, and you may have saved someone from making choice that could be more expensive than some could afford.
I’m sorry to hear that was the reaction you got. I hope things have gotten better and appreciate you keeping the video up. Learned so much, wishing you the best
My beau was suggesting a container home for us and I am so glad I watched both your videos. My gut was against it and you explain perfectly why it would not be a good idea. Thanks for the info!
I saw both videos and I think you hit the nail on the head. In one of my past jobs, I worked for a company that managed containers. I have stories. The worst damage I saw came from shipping engine blocks and manhole covers. They get tossed around on the high seas and wrecked the containers. Coffee was a real hard smell to get rid of. But the worst was when they sent a container to a meat packing plant, and after the cows were butchered, the hides were dipped in formaldehyde and hung in the container. When it was full, they'd ship it to China. When it arrived a few weeks later, the hides were all tanned and ready to be made into Members Only jackets. The containers were useless. I wouldn't want to live in one of those. Containers were designed to fit in a single lane on a road.