Merovingian Kings Family Tree

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  • @UsefulCharts
    @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +84

    Be sure to check out the complete #ProjectClovis playlist:
    ua-cam.com/video/kjBRCuj9pCU/v-deo.html

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 роки тому +1

      I am looking forward to seeing all the videos in the playlist! :)

    • @cormacmacsuibhne2867
      @cormacmacsuibhne2867 4 роки тому

      It was a great video but there was a mistake at 11:03.

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 роки тому +4

      @ShalakumX Simba Something I have been wondering is given the prevalence of slavery in most civilizations throughout history, I wonder if everyone living today is descended from a slave? It would be interesting to consider if many of the people living today have a mixture of noble/royal blood and of those on the opposite end of the socio-economic spectrum. I also wonder how far back we have to go before we find a common ancestor of everyone living today? I have been tempted to try some of those DNA ancestry kits, but I have heard that you get conflicting results from one company versus another and on top of that, I'm not sure it is a good idea to allow some company to have your DNA on record.

    • @FredStoryCoin
      @FredStoryCoin 4 роки тому

      greek royal family tree ._.

    • @cassidyblevinsled
      @cassidyblevinsled 4 роки тому

      House of Aberffraw

  • @KirbyComicsVids
    @KirbyComicsVids 4 роки тому +341

    regarding the names Childeric, Childebert, Chlothar, Chlodomer, etc., the ‘ch’ there shouldn’t be thought of as an English ‘ch’ as in ‘chase’ sound but more like the ‘ch’ in loch or even just an h sound, as it comes from the ancestral Proto-Germanic sound, Hilderic, Hildebert, Hlothar, and Hlodomer are resonable renderings

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +35

      I suppose you are right, however, if you want a modern pronounciation, then arguably the Dutch prononciaton would be the closest.

    • @averongodoffire8098
      @averongodoffire8098 4 роки тому +9

      This was interesting
      Feel free to share it at parties to break the ice with someone😂

    • @juandavidrestrepoduran6007
      @juandavidrestrepoduran6007 4 роки тому +4

      @@axolotl-guy9801 Who wants a modern one?

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +14

      @@juandavidrestrepoduran6007 For etimoligistical purpose. It's interisting. Also the older prononciation would be closer to Dutch than to French ofcourse.

    • @alexd6393
      @alexd6393 4 роки тому +11

      All these name came from the word Hlod « glorious/famous/honorable ».
      The letter C is an addition from Latin,
      Chlodovechus. Frank king were general from the Roman Empire army. We find coins of Clovis and Clovis father with Roman style as getting their power by the Empire.
      So yes, the C is probably not pronounced.
      Hlodowig = Clovis in mordent graphic probably mean “glorious in battle” as wig is fight or battle.
      Indeed he was :)

  • @ThisisBarris
    @ThisisBarris 4 роки тому +341

    Working on this collab made me realize how fascinating the Merovingians are and how overlooked they are too. I'm glad we did this. Great video! As always.

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 роки тому +3

      Looking forward to your video, too! Any planned publication date?

    • @justarandomfrenchdude9091
      @justarandomfrenchdude9091 4 роки тому +4

      Totally agree, I've been dying for some Merovigian content by UA-cam history channels.
      It's full of war, murder, betrayal, powers behind the throne and all in a very unique layout for Western Europe.

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 4 роки тому +1

      @@HistoryandHeadlines I hope to have it up next week but work has been killing me lately.

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 4 роки тому +1

      @@justarandomfrenchdude9091 Absolutely! It was really fun to read about and gave me huge GOT vibes.

    • @gavinandrew3688
      @gavinandrew3688 4 роки тому +1

      Is there a connection with the Spence line and Lady Diana? Or Anne Boleyn? What do you think of Joseph Gregory Hallet's claim to be a descendant of Anne Boleyn?

  • @kalpeshmanna7233
    @kalpeshmanna7233 4 роки тому +308

    King *dies*
    Sons: let's split up gang
    Strongest of them: *I don't think so*

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +4

      Youre só funny.......

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 4 роки тому +9

      The perfect summary of our first Dynasty

    • @jeeeeev
      @jeeeeev 3 роки тому +4

      Thats what gavelkind gets you

    • @kalpeshmanna7233
      @kalpeshmanna7233 3 роки тому +1

      @@iagosevatar4865 where are you from

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 3 роки тому +3

      @@kalpeshmanna7233 France. I was precisely talking about the Mérovingien. Their Kings ranking is an absolute mess.

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory 4 роки тому +136

    Came out great as usual! Another great collab!

  • @imokin86
    @imokin86 4 роки тому +393

    Pepin the Middle was especially famous for his careful avoidance of extremes.

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 роки тому +64

      The fist enlightened centrist

    • @Aviationlord7742
      @Aviationlord7742 4 роки тому +27

      Only a sith deals in absolutes

    • @luizsa8300
      @luizsa8300 4 роки тому +11

      Igor Mokin I guess you could he was always “centered” in everything he did.

    • @MrK2890
      @MrK2890 4 роки тому +21

      All he knew was that his gut said "maybe"

    • @jmadmaxx7295
      @jmadmaxx7295 4 роки тому

      Aviation lord it’s almost perfect, please change it to sith

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 4 роки тому +171

    7:33 So, the phrase "it's not over until the fat lady sings" really means "the family blood feud isn't over until the fat lady 'sings' in agony as she is pulled apart by horses". That...is equal parts fascinating and disturbing all at the same time. Gotta love history. :)

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 роки тому +4

      In this case it is where life imitates art.

    • @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570
      @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 3 роки тому +2

      Too many today judge the past based on the sensibilities of today it is ignorant obnoxious and a stupid thing to do.

    • @reptilesarecool6739
      @reptilesarecool6739 2 роки тому +8

      @@stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 it is actually incredibly important to contextualize history both from the perspective of those alive then, and those alive today. Otherwise you end up with stupid takes like “historical conditions can’t possibly affect people today, it was so long ago!” And “they should get over it, they were never slaves!” Or worse “it’s not as bad as it sounds, it was a different time” or “it didn’t happen like that at all”
      It is important to understand how atrocities of the past can be contextualizad within the times they occurred, but not view them as “ok and fine” because it was so long ago. It was not ok and fine for the women taken and the children killed and the villages put to the torch, whether it was 1965 or 965 or 96 or 1965 BC. just because it was more normal does not mean it was more good or more ok.

    • @noorbohamad5796
      @noorbohamad5796 4 місяці тому

      @@reptilesarecool6739doesn’t make it “false” to say that it DID happen a long ago time yet still no I don’t agree with everything that men did to men to women to kids just because it’s “back then in the past” but what am I or anyone else gonna able to do about the shit that men did?

    • @reptilesarecool6739
      @reptilesarecool6739 4 місяці тому +1

      @@noorbohamad5796 what are you going to do about it? Understand the root causes of atrocities and how they start, build up, and are carried out - so that nobody is ever victimized by them again.

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow 4 роки тому +184

    I think we all know that the Merovingians were best known for lecturing protagonists about causality and baking exceptional chocolate cake.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +30

      Indeed.

    • @EmmaLiza
      @EmmaLiza 4 роки тому +6

      They should have given Alfred some tips.

    • @dr.mmaudi8194
      @dr.mmaudi8194 4 роки тому +4

      Not to mention their philandering nature

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 4 роки тому +6

      And having a Italian fashion model as a wife who wants to kiss said protagonist in secret!

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 4 роки тому +4

      You had me in the first half, not gonna lie ^^

  • @mikroraptor
    @mikroraptor 2 роки тому +60

    The death of Chlodomers sons was actually very sad. They were only around 6 and 10 when they were killed by their own uncles. They basically went to Clothilde and asked if she would rather them die or have their hair cut. She chose death. The younger son actually ran to his uncle Childebert crying, wrapped his arms around his legs, and begged him not to let him die.
    You can read more about this in book 3 of History of the Franks

  • @atree9284
    @atree9284 4 роки тому +61

    When your ancestors have “the Middle”, “the Elder”, but you get *the Short*

  • @FloCch59
    @FloCch59 4 роки тому +110

    The funny thing about Merovingian, is that, according to actual records, they have no living descendant today. Their line simply died in male and female lines with the last kings, but some historians and genealogists are trying to find a descendance. Their are several merovingian princesses (less than 10 I believe) that we don't know if they ever had children. But the most interesting one, is the one that tend to prove that Charlemagne's mother (Berthe de Laon) was Theuderic IV grand-daughter, making Charlemagne descendant of Clovis, but it's not certain for now. And if that was proven true, and we are descendant of Charlemagne, so we are descendant of Clovis as well. That's the funny thing : either everyone is descendant of Clovis, either no one is.
    I also found it sad that we never found Clovis tomb. It's believed to be somewhere under the streets of Paris and perhaps under Lycée Henri IV, who knows, maybe ne day we'll find it

    • @andreav318
      @andreav318 4 роки тому +15

      I’m related to a Merovingian Noble 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @thewoolooherder5918
      @thewoolooherder5918 4 роки тому +12

      I traced my ancestry back to Charlemagne, but I’m not sure that counts

    • @basedkaiser5352
      @basedkaiser5352 3 роки тому +7

      Why would King Clovis I be buried in Paris when the capital at that time was Soissons ?

    • @basedkaiser5352
      @basedkaiser5352 3 роки тому +3

      @@thewoolooherder5918 Doesn’t really count, he’s a Carolingian.

    • @FloCch59
      @FloCch59 3 роки тому +9

      @@basedkaiser5352 Because Soisson wasn't the main capital anymore. In fact, Tournai was even more important for the francs at that time, and at the end of his life till his death in 511, Clovis moved to Paris. and only after his death the kingdom was split between his sons into 4 kingdoms (Paris, Orléans, Reims, Soisson)

  • @bobofthekerbals9797
    @bobofthekerbals9797 4 роки тому +61

    That theory at the end is the strangest thing I have ever heard.

  • @SadFloridaMan
    @SadFloridaMan 4 роки тому +152

    I can only trace my family back to 1795. But I’m just gonna say I’m descended from Zeus.

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 роки тому +30

      Some irish historian /genealogist in the 17th century claimed that the king of Spain was a decendant of hercules and through hercules to Adam and eve

    • @suprcrzy
      @suprcrzy 4 роки тому +23

      We might be cousins then. Im pretty sure I'm the great grandson of Alexander the Great.

    • @Austin8thGenTexan
      @Austin8thGenTexan 4 роки тому +23

      @@suprcrzy Isn't every person of European descent (white) a descendant of Charlemagne ? 🤔

    • @chevon1920
      @chevon1920 4 роки тому +1

      J Yelvington no, how would that work, every person in the royal family is maybe.

    • @JoaoGabriel-et4kq
      @JoaoGabriel-et4kq 4 роки тому +1

      @@mikeoxsmal8022 wait .. what!? He mixed the Bible with Greek mythology !?

  • @JackAnna2024
    @JackAnna2024 4 роки тому +21

    An echo of the Merovingians is still to be found in the Netherlands in the name of a side river of the Rhine, called the Merwede. This is exactly where the Salian Franks originate. Salland is one of several names in the area that remember them. The Salian Franks spoke an early form of Dutch.

  • @bradmiller3396
    @bradmiller3396 2 роки тому +23

    As part of a family genealogy project we tracked our line all the way back and found we are direct descendants of Merovich. He's my 46th great grandfather.
    It's so exciting to learn about their history.

    • @Verityization
      @Verityization 2 роки тому +5

      Hello, cousin! Actually, I guess all Europeans that trace ancestors that far back are cousins in some way.

    • @missunderstood6862
      @missunderstood6862 2 роки тому +1

      I agree with Annie's comment.. also did very detailed, time consuming (but rewarding) research, & it does appear that most European descendants, & others who mixed in, are all descendants of Charlemagne, & The Merovingians... really interesting..so we all descend from royalty..totally fascinating..

    • @g.dalfleblanc63
      @g.dalfleblanc63 Рік тому +2

      @@missunderstood6862 I can believe everyone is descended from royalty but not Charlemagne as a direct ancestor. I match 90% Dobunni in the Iron Age, 73% Cherusci in the Roman age, 79% Frank in the Early Medieval age. These are huge chunks of DNA and indicate mass population movements.
      Everyone with Western European ancestry has Charlemagne as say a 7th cousin X46 times removed absolutely. An indirect ancestor.

    • @ElRayDelRio
      @ElRayDelRio Рік тому +1

      Im a descendant from two French Knights, Sir Galindo de Salazar (french Aigoland)and his brother Sir Gaston de Salazar. These 2 were grandsons of the famous EUDON, who was Duke of Aquitaine, a vast area in S.W France. If we choose to favour this path then the history of the family goes back to the year 425 A.D when Faramundo King of the FRANCS died. He is supposed to be the Salazars utteremost ancestor, and was suceeded by an uninterupted series of 7 generations of monarchs: CLODIO,MORAVES,CHILDERICO,CLODOVEO,CLOTARIO I,CHILPERICO I, & CLOTARIO II, to CARIBERTO (646 A.D) brother of DAGOBERTO I and grandfather of the aforementioned EUDON, Duke of Aquitaine

    • @Lacesoflove
      @Lacesoflove 7 місяців тому

      ​@@g.dalfleblanc63 Wonder how all this would tie in with King Tut since DNA proves 50% of Europeans and 75% British are related to him. He had red or reddish hair too.

  • @tylertrotter7707
    @tylertrotter7707 4 роки тому +12

    I always liked the quote "I know who you are and I know who I am that's all that matters. " I love looking back but I always remember this quote. It gives me a since of knowing.

  • @anxofernandez3344
    @anxofernandez3344 4 роки тому +15

    The idea that Charlemagne would not only be a descendant of the Merovingian kings but also of the last prefect of Gaul at the time of the fall of the Western Roman Empire is absolutely fascinating. It would indicate that the barbarians invasion wasn't so much of an invasion or a war effort on their part. Some tribes were invited in and some others just crossed the borders without much opposition. They all merged with part of the local population and even though there was some opposition, the Roman aristocracy probably had a close relationship with the germanic leaders in their territory.

    • @christopheripoll2580
      @christopheripoll2580 4 роки тому +5

      In France, an old well-known theory supposes that it was not a pacific mix. According to that theory, the frankish tribe, which took power in Gaul at the fall of the Roman Empire, would have constituted the future aristocratic class. Meanwhile, the Gallo-romans who were conquered, would have turned into the peasants class. It has to be noted that the French aristocracy was proud of its Frankish descents and overlooked the rest of the population. In that theory, the French Revolution is supposed to be a revenge of the Frankish conquest of Gaul. Of course, this is only a oversimplified theory. But it is fascinating how the great History of France can be analysed through ages as the continuation of a great people.

  • @fcalvaresi
    @fcalvaresi 4 роки тому +33

    13:24 « Charlemagne ends up becoming greater than all the kings we have talked about ».
    Well I would rank Clovis just as high as him. He started low, managed to unite all the Franks and then to defeat the Romans, the Alemanni and the Visigoths.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +2

      Indeed, Chlodovech is just as important.

    • @akashpatro9393
      @akashpatro9393 4 місяці тому

      Charlamagne inherited the most powerful and richest kingdom in all of Europe(second only to the Byzantines) and managed to snowball his empire which is a very impressive feat since no one managed to unite Western Europe ever again

  • @lukedanuser
    @lukedanuser 4 роки тому +8

    Looking forward to another great video! You’re one of my favorite channels!

  • @orlandovaldes5221
    @orlandovaldes5221 4 роки тому +46

    Could you make a video of the Monarchy of the Visigothic Kingdom

  • @skiteufr
    @skiteufr 4 роки тому +26

    The monarchy or House of France has known 3 dynasties : merovingians, carolingians and capetians.
    What is quite exceptional is that the change of dynasty was always peaceful. It needed only a letter from the pope for the carolingians to take over and an election for the capetians to take the throne.
    In many countries, it triggered wars (civil wars or european wide wars).

    • @alexd6393
      @alexd6393 4 роки тому +6

      This is not accurate.
      It takes two generations for the Carolingiens to over pass the mérovingiens, and they were very careful.
      It takes 100 years for the Robertiens (first name of Capétiens family) to overpass the carolingien only in the western part of the Frank empire.
      Odo (Eudes) and Robert and Raoul were King before Hugh Capet in his family. It is more than 100 years of fight and building influences to bring him as king.
      And when Hugh become king, nothing can predict that his family will stay for 800 years... that’s why the first Capetian kings will always share the power with their son before they died... in order to build and establish a dynasty.
      Hugh election was nothing but the results of a big and long fight.

    • @skiteufr
      @skiteufr 4 роки тому +1

      @@alexd6393 Mon point est que la prise de pouvoir des différentes dynasties a été très pacifique et n'a pas apporté les conflits et les morts qu'on a pu voir dans d'autres pays.
      Que les carolingiens aient mis 2 générations à prendre le pouvoir, et que les Robertiens ont mis 100 ans on s'en fout complètement au final. Ces familles ont toujours été dans les hautes sphères du pouvoir et ont toujours en quelque sortes essayé d'exercer de l'influence. Les robertiens ont beau avoir joué de l'influence, si Louis V avait eu 5 fils en vie à sa mort, les capétiens n'auraient jamais pu prendre le pouvoir. Ils cherchaient le pouvoir mais le contexte d'extinction des carolingiens leur a facilité la tache.
      Ce que je veux dire c'est que le transfert de la couronne des mérovingiens aux carolingiens s'est faite par validation papale et n'a provoqué aucune guerre ce qui est exceptionnel pour l'époque.
      Les capétiens se sont fait élire en 987 ce qui est une façon avancée et pacifique pour l'époque de transférer une couronne, même si les pouvoirs royaux étaient à l'époque plus symboliques. Et si les capétiens ont été élus, c'est parce qu'ils étaient les moins conflictuels et les plus rassembleurs par rapport aux autres candidats. En gros, les capétiens étaient vu comme un choix moins risqué sur lesquels les grands féodaux pouvaient avoir plus facilement de l'influence. Cela a pu être vrai au début mais ça a vite changé

    • @alexd6393
      @alexd6393 4 роки тому

      skiteufr bonjour, je pense sincèrement que vous vous trompez sur le côté non violent de ces prises de pouvoir. Je n’ai plus les références dans la tête, je tenterais de les chercher.
      Je mettais en lumière le temps long car c’est une lutte longue (et violente) et non pas une décision (vote, validation du pape) instantané qui clos un débat.
      Je me trompe peut-être moi aussi je regardais ces événements comme une grande continuité (et elle existe en un sens) mais c’est juste que le details des événements est peu connue/discuté.
      Je tente de vous trouver ces sources et on en reparle :) bien à vous.

    • @thekyler9529
      @thekyler9529 2 роки тому

      ​@@alexd6393 Le dernier roi Mérovingiens, Childéric III, est déposé pacifiquement sous autorisation du pape. Eudes I des Robertiens est élu pacifiquement Roi par les ducs après la mort de Charles III dit le Gros alors qu'il n'était que un comte. Charles III dit le Simple des Carolingiens qui avait été écarté par le noble est sacrée en 893 mais deviens roi que en 898 à la mort de Eudes I. Il est déposé militairement après avoir provoqué les noble en 922 et meurt en 929. Robert I, frère de Eudes I, est élu en 922 mais meurt pendant la bataille de Soissons en 923. Les noble choisissent Raoul des Bosonides/Bivinides (pas la même dynastie que les Robertiens), duc de Bourgogne, comme Roi. Raoul meurt sans héritier donc Louis IV, fils de Charles le Simple, est choisi. Louis IV meurt d'une chute de cheval et est hérité par sont fils Lothaire I qui sera hérité par sont fils Louis V. Louis V meurt aussi d'une chute de cheval. Les nobles écarte définitivement les Carolingiens quand ils élient Hughes Capet. Tu a raison de dire que s'était pas automatique et que les dynastie on préparé leur accession au trône sur plusieurs generation mais @skiteufr a raison quand il dit que les transition on été plutôt pacifique car comme je l'ai décrit, saufs pour Robert I, les transitions on été pacifique sans guerre civil meurtrière et dévastatrice comme sa a pu être le cas dans d'autre royaume et empire.

    • @g.dalfleblanc63
      @g.dalfleblanc63 Рік тому +1

      The Carolingians likely murdered Childeric III and his son Theuderic 6 years after deposing the king, they sent the king and his heir to separate monasteries both died 753AD.

  • @OkieJammer2736
    @OkieJammer2736 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for this excellent series. Fascinating. Educational. Thought-provoking. INTRIGUING! 😊

  • @jamistardust5181
    @jamistardust5181 3 роки тому +3

    I'm really glad that you added Charlemagne. I've did my own ancestry and I have your chart of the European Royal families. When I got to the 6th century I found what you show and I'm happy that I match your chart.. I'm a subscriber and I thought I should tell you how much I enjoy your videos. I think they're great. I saw your video on being descended to Charlemagne, but by the time I saw it I had Already charted it. I'm descended from Margaret Tudor through both her children. James V and Margaret Douglas. I started circling my ancestors on your chart and while I did that I discovered more ancestors. It shows that James V of Scotland was descended from almost the whole of the upper half of the chart. So thank you for making my experience with ancestry more full.

  • @jjpe306
    @jjpe306 4 роки тому +5

    excellent! have wanted a Merovingian video for ages! this channel might just spark people to go researching and find some lost documents that connect antiquity to the middle ages.

    • @hawkishOwl2020
      @hawkishOwl2020 4 роки тому +1

      I think there are a lot of connections we don’t know about. At certain times it probably made sense to keep certain secrets or people involved didn’t keep records, which makes it hard to trace.

    • @hawkishOwl2020
      @hawkishOwl2020 4 роки тому

      From a macro view, you had Germanic tribes basically become “Romanized” in about two hundred years. How did that happen?

  • @Nicolas-zb9uw
    @Nicolas-zb9uw 4 роки тому +2

    Very well down !!! And I don't say that so often . Narrator speak slowly enough, with a clear voice where we understand each syllable . Visualy , every one can follow even though the map is complex.First time I was showned that so clearly .

  • @elfarlaur
    @elfarlaur 3 роки тому +30

    "The Pope though those in power should be kings" is an interesting way to say "Pepin saved the Pope's ass from the Lombards while Byzantium was busy dealing with its own shit so he knew he owed Pepin big time." ;P

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, and the Pope did not suddenly decide to make Pépin King. Pépin le Bref more or less asked asked the Pope "Who is more worthy to be King: the one who reigns, or the one who actually rules the Kingdom?" The papal approval gave Pépin the legitimacy to depose Childéric III.

  • @sebastianmller9747
    @sebastianmller9747 4 роки тому +120

    I know I descend from antiquity. Mainly because humans don’t just spontaneously come to be.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +68

      Of course. It's knowing the exact lineage that's the trick.

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah, that only happens to the Goddess of Love

    • @LostDisciple24
      @LostDisciple24 4 роки тому +19

      @@UsefulCharts My sister has factually dated our line all the way back to the 550s definitively with documentation. These don't say much...more or less just names and dates of births/deaths. Then again, at that point, we were in England (in what would become Shaftesbury) where the Dark Ages weren't soo dark. Pretty interesting history if I may say so myself. Its actually how I got interested in the Anglo-Saxons, Alfred the Great, etc.

    • @rickyrick2330
      @rickyrick2330 4 роки тому +4

      @@LostDisciple24 thats really interesting, where are you know?

    • @manub.3847
      @manub.3847 4 роки тому +4

      @@LostDisciple24 For one thing, we mustn't forget that births and weddings and days of death were recorded almost exclusively for the leading class. General registers were kept in churches around the 14th and 15th centuries. Now comes the next hurdle: many of these church registers have been destroyed by wars, pillage, natural disasters, etc.
      Not to forget that the church areas may have changed several times in the meantime and the official registers are kept in a completely different church congregation or an office.
      So it can be quite difficult for the "common man" to retrace his line far enough. The oldest church registers are only available as fragments and come from the 14th century from Provence and Italy.

  • @burningphoneix
    @burningphoneix 4 роки тому +59

    Useful Charts: "And they had an ancestor named Arnoald"
    Me: "The Governator?"

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 роки тому +4

      And then Arnoald said: "I'll be back!"

  • @arbremonde13
    @arbremonde13 4 роки тому +138

    Holy Grail translates to Saint Graal in French, which is theorized to be an alteration of Sang Réal, which means Royal Blood.

    • @real_nosferatu
      @real_nosferatu 4 роки тому +18

      Or "holy blood".

    • @yamitsukikarasu8857
      @yamitsukikarasu8857 4 роки тому +22

      @@real_nosferatu réal which became royal has nothing to do with the word for holy (saint). Holy blood is pronounced "sang saint".

    • @hamnchee
      @hamnchee 4 роки тому +2

      @@yamitsukikarasu8857 Real was the grail part not the holy part.

    • @roiq5263
      @roiq5263 3 роки тому

      Makes sense.

    • @moorek1967
      @moorek1967 3 роки тому

      Holy Grail is the Eucharist.

  • @charlesvvonhabsburg8063
    @charlesvvonhabsburg8063 4 роки тому +71

    How many "berts" do you want?
    Merovingian dynasty: YES

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 роки тому +6

      I was today's years old when I realized that Bertha was the feminine derivative of Bert.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +2

      @@BillGreenAZ Wow😂

    • @imokin86
      @imokin86 4 роки тому

      When we get the video on Rurikids, we'll see how many -slavs they wanted... The -berts will be overwhelmed by their multitude.

    • @magisterhpp
      @magisterhpp 3 роки тому

      Dagobert Duck is clearly a descendant.....$$$ Probably just a bastard though ☹️

  • @berendboer8459
    @berendboer8459 4 роки тому +19

    On the topic of "how far back can you go?", I would be very interested in a video on the descendants of Confucius!

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 4 роки тому +9

    My mum did some genealogy research on her mum's family tree. she got as far back as the 1700's we found a pub owner and a mystery of a person who emigrated to the USA just after ww2 no royals or nobles. all working class British people. kind of proud about that.

    • @barrymoore4470
      @barrymoore4470 7 місяців тому

      Even though the documentation doesn't exist, some degree of royal or noble ancestry for your family is almost certain, as it is for everyone else. Statistically, the further you go back in time, the more likely that a person living at that time who has descendants living today is an ancestor of yours. This means that we all inevitably have princes and rulers among our ancestors, though the exact relationship is lost to written history.

  • @dylanrodriguez450
    @dylanrodriguez450 3 роки тому +2

    Wow you have everything I’m looking for, I’m related to Charles Martel too, you are just blowing my mind today thank you

    • @warangel4389
      @warangel4389 9 місяців тому

      I’m related to Charles Martel too.

    • @dylanrodriguez450
      @dylanrodriguez450 9 місяців тому

      @@warangel4389 Yeah but thousands and thousands of ppl are too. A person with any EU ancestry whatsoever are most likely related to Charlemagne

    • @dylanrodriguez450
      @dylanrodriguez450 9 місяців тому

      @@warangel4389 it’s pretty common, just like it’s pretty common for everyone to have royal blood

  • @textbookidiocy3896
    @textbookidiocy3896 4 роки тому +48

    Ah, Gavelkind.. the most irritating system for stability.

    • @ducovanderwoude6971
      @ducovanderwoude6971 4 роки тому +23

      You should switch to agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as soon as your laws allow it and you have reigned for ten years.

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so 4 роки тому +11

      CK2 players worst headache 😐

    • @achaeanmapping4408
      @achaeanmapping4408 4 роки тому +5

      @@ducovanderwoude6971 If you play your cards right agnatic does the job aswell

    • @violenceisfun
      @violenceisfun 4 роки тому +5

      But really it's Enatic Open that's the best, especially for marrying into powerful bloodlines.

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 роки тому +1

      @@Zach-mw5so It’s pretty bad in the beginning, but I mean that in as in the beginning of your time playing. After thousands of hours, you begin to realize that it kind of gets boring to have a vast kingdom with no repercussions upon death, just more expansion. It’s sometimes a little fun to have to fight for your titles, and then get back to the expansion. The borders can get fucked up though.

  • @Lord_Raymund
    @Lord_Raymund 4 роки тому +32

    I think it would have been more fitting to use the golden bee instead of the fleur-de-lis for this colab.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +3

      Yes indeed. Really iritating. Like they were French kings.

  • @bsw095
    @bsw095 4 роки тому +3

    This channel is pure gold. Love from India. ❤️

  • @lolgod8995
    @lolgod8995 4 роки тому +2

    Another great video thanks for uploading

  • @nunyabiznez6381
    @nunyabiznez6381 4 роки тому +30

    In Dan Brown's book, The da Vinci Code, the story is focused on a woman who is the descendant of Jesus. The story implies that she is the ONLY descendant of Jesus making it critical that she be protected and her existence kept a secret. Assuming that a descendant of Jesus might actually exist, if they did it is extremely unlikely that a bloodline would go on for two thousand years as one single line terminating with one living person. As a genealogist it has been my experience that bloodlines expand over time after a certain point. For example as this video points out, it is most likely that all or virtually all Europeans are ultimately descended from Charlemagne. The number of Charlemagne's descendants alive today probably exceeds a billion people. Charlemagne was born in the 8th century. So it would be all the truer for someone born two thousand years ago to have a large number of descendants and in fact most likely several billions of them.
    Another thing I'd like to point out though a bit off topic for this video it was an integral part of Dan Brown's book and that is the mystery of the location of Mary Magdalene's body. There is no mystery. According to legend, her body was broken up into pieces and deposited in reliquaries in churches all over France and other parts of Europe, a finger bone here a toe bone there a tooth somewhere else. In fact there's probably a piece of her in nearly any French church you visit that's a few hundred years old. I don't think any church has a piece of her bigger than her forearm. Her relics were some of the most sought after in Europe and were so popular at one point that it is likely if you gathered all her pieces up and put them together she'd weigh several tons. I am not aware of any DNA tests having been conducted on any of these relics but I would imagine the results would be both controversial and enlightening.

    • @AdirondackRuby
      @AdirondackRuby 4 роки тому +8

      It's like the relics that are supposedly shards of the True Cross. Add them all up, you'd have a dozen "crosses" from the Crucifixion. It's also worth pointing out that, especially in Brown's book but also in many others, that the Descendents of Christ matter way more than Jesus himself. He is so drastically unimportant that you'd wonder why and how people descended from him would matter at all. It's like that in Islam. They reject his holiness & diety, they reject his crucifixion, they reject everything that is important about him...but somehow make him one of their very super important pre-Mohammad Prophets.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +1

      @@AdirondackRuby Every europian can trace their line back to the Robertians (I trough the earlier French/West-Francia kings), same as for example Charlemange. If the stories are true that they are desentants of the merovingians than, according to the stories, they are also desentants of jezus. Of course that ain't true. I hated to that they acted like she was the "only" desentant.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +6

      @@toqtoq3361 I hope you don't mean me with that? Even for fiction, it has terribly spread the wrong ideas into the world. Even non fictional people are changed in the storie. Like the Merovingians, they act in the film and book like they were French monarchs.

    • @AdirondackRuby
      @AdirondackRuby 4 роки тому +7

      @Kevin Warburton Well that's heretical and blasphemous garbage, but thanks for sharing. Rejecting the fact that Jesus is the Son of God and a part of the Trinity IS rejecting his Holiness. Try that "he was a human who was a really cool teacher" nonsense on someone else.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +1

      @@toqtoq3361 Thanks, sorry for my late reaction.

  • @Fl1mper
    @Fl1mper 4 роки тому +20

    Is a pre imperial romae, noble family chart being planned? Including old roman legends and so on...

  • @itallia666
    @itallia666 2 роки тому +4

    Years ago when delving into my own strange ancestry i became side tracked by the Merovingian
    Line, of the long haired priest kingsl
    I was also tracking folklore & myth of ancient Ireland
    Anyway to cut things short, i linked the Irish great Lord
    The Dagda with Dagobert of the
    Merovingians
    Also i think the other folk hero
    Chuchulain ( not sure of spelling)
    But pronounced Ca- hoo- lan
    Travelled widely & my belief is he crossed the Atlantic down into
    The north of S America & became
    The white haired, bearded god from across the sea as
    Kukulcan, god of the Aztecs or earlier Olmecs or Mixtecs comparing this name to Chuchulain ( Ca hoo lan)
    ( intrestingly there was something about dragons with the Tuatha DeDanaan & flying dragons, think what the ancient
    Olmecs called Kukulcan - the
    Feathered Serpent !! Not that the serpent was feathered but
    Was symbolic of flight, as in birds feathers help them fly.)
    Also it was said that Kukulcan departed in a raft of serpents
    Too, promising to return but he never did, but thinking of his raft of sepents & feathered serpents did his " raft" hover over the waters? Like the Hydrofoil?
    Also Chuchulain & Kukulcan could have been the origional folk hero's or descendants baring the same name.
    Im not sure if Chuchulain originated from Ireland or was descended from the
    Tuatha DeDanaan which by
    Their sophistication, dress, style
    Art & great history, had arrived in Ireland in remote times
    I even entertained the theory that these people the Tuatha
    DeDanaan who landed in Ireland in great ships from a far off land were from Canaan (DeDanaan) & may have been all or some of the scattered 12 tribes of Israel.
    I remember reading the story of magnificent these Tuatha were with clothes of sumptuous fabrics, styles, intelligence, great goldsmiths, their homes & interiors brought gasps from the native Irish people!
    In the case of Irish Chuchulain & Mexican Inca Aztec Kukulcan
    Its a puzzle if The Irish one traveled to the people of Aztec culture 1st from elsewhere then on to Ireland or from Ireland to S.America?
    Anyway i really enjoy your family trees ! So facinating
    Some of my favourite family Trees are in the appendix of some of Laurence Gardiners
    Book Bloodline of the Holy Grail
    These are brilliant Family tree charts of European & Scottish
    Royalty reaching far back in time & showing the Kings of Albany
    Thank you
    🇬🇧👧

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro7565 4 роки тому +28

    Unfortunately the Franks didn't practice primogeniture. It would of saved them from a lot of headaches.

    • @D.Appeltofft
      @D.Appeltofft 3 роки тому

      Indeed. But in all fairness, they had a sharp remedy for all diseases..

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 роки тому +1

      They did... They litterally invented that : Salic Law

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 3 роки тому

      Did the Franks always complain about the cat doing a whoopsie in their helmets? Was there a "Betty" in there?

  • @TheSandkastenverbot
    @TheSandkastenverbot 4 роки тому +121

    There's a reason why Orleans isn't written Orlenne: it's pronounced totally differently.

    • @raloniusmaximus
      @raloniusmaximus 4 роки тому +11

      I think it's pronounced like Or-LEE-on

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 4 роки тому +18

      @@raloniusmaximus It's pronounced or-lay-an but it's okay, it's just a name.

    • @achaeanmapping4408
      @achaeanmapping4408 4 роки тому +2

      @@raloniusmaximus I think its more Or(the stereotipical french r)-le(like the french word le)-on

    • @patrickhannot7071
      @patrickhannot7071 4 роки тому +16

      The pronunciation of Orléans has no equivalent in English. The final S must not be pronounced. There are three syllables. "or" (easy it's almost like in English but the "r" is more guttural) "lé" (I think the equivalent does not exist in English) it's almost like "lee" but your lips must be more closed. Finally "an" which is not pronounced like in English because it is a nasal sound. The best is that you pronounce as in New Orleans which is very fun for a Frenchman and it has a lot of charm.

    • @raloniusmaximus
      @raloniusmaximus 4 роки тому +2

      @@achaeanmapping4408 yeah i say both. sometines i say or-le-on, sometimes or-LEE-on.

  • @defaultuser9423
    @defaultuser9423 4 роки тому +8

    Fascinating. Regarding descent from antiquity though, i think it's just under-researched and we may be able to find links if we look hard enough. Especially with the help of modern tools like archaeogenetics.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +14

      Trust me. People have been looking.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 4 роки тому +1

      What do you think of the book Lest Darkness Fall and the role of the Franks in it?

  • @Vampirecronicler
    @Vampirecronicler 3 роки тому +7

    I'd love to see a speculative video about decent from antiquity, and see exactly what theories exist to connect people like Charlemagne back to the Romans and beyond

    • @karensullivan8458
      @karensullivan8458 Рік тому

      This guys video was all speculation. There is more proof of lineage that this guy said there was none of than who killed who back then, or any of the "history" that he talked about. They knew who their sons were and who would inherit the throne after them. You know, like in King Louis the 1st all the way through the 15th. I'd say that's pretty good proof of lineage even if they've lost the paper documents, scrolls made of animal skin or the rock tablets that they carved on to record it.

  • @patrickthesunofdragons9156
    @patrickthesunofdragons9156 3 роки тому +9

    How many kings start with the letter C do you want?
    Merovingian: Yes.

    • @basedgod6016
      @basedgod6016 2 роки тому

      ironically the letter c didn't actually exist in any of their names at the time, was added later in latin. iirc they should all be pronounced more like khillderic/hilderic or something like that

  • @age3801
    @age3801 4 роки тому +13

    Let's all part St. Cloud for all the benefits he offer us.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 4 роки тому +6

    Great idea for the collaboration. If you want to make another one about a specific dynasty, that is a bit overlooked today, might I suggest the Jagiellonians?

  • @Jliske2
    @Jliske2 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this vid! I know I can trace my ancestry back to Dagobert I and it was really cool to see how it tied in

  • @Renould2010
    @Renould2010 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you, for great Body of Knowledge, 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾💡💫🌟

  • @Amadeu.Macedo
    @Amadeu.Macedo 8 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding production, as customary.

  • @Lancor84
    @Lancor84 4 роки тому +5

    Ah good video. You left out the Chronicles of Fredegar though, which are also a historic document but tell that the Merowingians actually descend from a sea monster named quintauros.

  • @theresawilliams4296
    @theresawilliams4296 4 роки тому

    Love your work. These are a pure joy to watch. Keep up the good work.

  • @JWPemperor
    @JWPemperor 4 роки тому +5

    5:43 Neustria = (New/Neu/nieuw land) from Syagrius, a Roman commander
    ("Dominio di Siagrio" - kingdom 461-486/494)
    This was the first land added after Austrasia (Old/alt/oud land) was united
    This is why Austria is wat 500/600 later become (East/ost/oost/öst land)
    This is why I like your vids .. I never found a link between the Merovingian and the Carolingians
    And most of my European dynasties maps are 400 years old.

  • @dylanvlahos8466
    @dylanvlahos8466 4 роки тому

    I love how you make your videos educational and interesting at the same time keep making awesome videos

  • @locutusest
    @locutusest 3 роки тому +8

    I have traced my ancestors back to Charlemagne through the Scottish Grant Clan, the Forbes family, and the Stewarts, all the way back to James I Stewart, King of Scotland, and his wife Joan Beaufort, daughter of John of Gaunt and descendant of Charlemagne.

    • @varionbodhi2152
      @varionbodhi2152 2 роки тому +2

      Statistically that is not uncommon.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 Рік тому +1

      Are you a Direct Male Y-DNA linkage. Because I can confirm it. Or maybe you are just related? 🤔 Even if you are just related we are still blessed.

    • @locutusest
      @locutusest Рік тому +1

      @marioq2759 I have no idea. Never taken a DNA test. Still descended through like ten different lines from Joan and James I and Joan and her second wife James Stewart of Lorne

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 Рік тому

      @@locutusest Thank you so much for the great info. You have a very Interesting genealogy.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 Рік тому

      @@locutusest I will tell you about the secret. Every time I post the actual Y-DNA Numbers Sequences they get completely wiped out on the internet by an unknown source. They do not want the information to get out. But I will tell you this. Yes there is around 10 Stewart lines. But only 1 of them is the actual Stewart Sangrail Bloodline. I am of that Y-DNA line. There are only around 240 known people who share my extremely rare DNA Haplogroup Bloodtype. I am not even supposed to exist. I am hoping that as long as I can keep The actual Y-DNA Sequences offline then hopefully this message 🙏 will get through. I however have turned against My Heritage Stewart Clans my own people because I don't like the way they dictate and control things. However I am Allll For the Sinclair's or Saint Claire's in which I am also related. But the sooner you finally get your full DNA Sequences it would be so wonderful to see more about our Family History in past times. ❤️ History is amazing and what is even more amazing is the Untold History.

  • @PabloDeLeraRodriguez
    @PabloDeLeraRodriguez Місяць тому +1

    Con que programa haces estos gráficos y esquemas que quedan tan bien?

  • @Normal_user_coniven
    @Normal_user_coniven 4 роки тому +4

    One of the important theories says that Tonantius Ferrolus II is the grandson of the Western Roman Emperor Avitus, from his daughter Empress Papianilla. Which means that the new Holy Western Roman Emperor is decent of the old Roman Empire.

    • @lexxluther5589
      @lexxluther5589 3 роки тому +1

      Interesting. Is there a book or source where I could look this up sir?

  • @stevetournay6103
    @stevetournay6103 2 роки тому +1

    "This is where it starts to get a bit complicated"...
    At which point my head was already spinning like a driveshaft. 😀
    The recurring phrase "King of All the Franks" almost comes across like "Third base!" in that famous Abbott and Costello skit. But hey, what a great name for a hotdog stand...

  • @AlkalineAjay
    @AlkalineAjay 4 роки тому +7

    Please do a Video on Descent from Antiquity! tracing people today that have famous ancestors

  • @federicosolla8922
    @federicosolla8922 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting! Even if this is not a channel about historical geography but mainly about genealogies, may I suggest to cite also Belgium and Nederland when speaking about Austrasia?
    Also, I do not see any mention of Aquitaine, which was conquered by Clovis from the Visigoths, and was ruled by Merovingians for a while.

  • @ryanvoll7088
    @ryanvoll7088 4 роки тому +25

    When doing my genealogy, I know once I get to a certain point, it’s just legendary and mythological people in my family tree.
    But I still add them, as it’s fun.
    I believe most trees prior to the 1200’s is sketchy. But it’s still fun to claim descent from these people.
    After all, even DNA makes it hard to dispute the claims, as the percentage of DNA directly from these people is so small, that there is a good chance we have it. Just maybe not in the direct path we thought.
    And when you get to the BC era, there is a chance that we all trace back to any of the famous people of those eras, just like all European descendants are a descendant of Charlemagne, it’s highly likely the same prior to him.

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 роки тому +4

      The DNA could also have convergent mutations.

    • @ryanvoll7088
      @ryanvoll7088 4 роки тому +2

      Rahul Jain
      Exactly, the further back we go, the more issues we may have with the DNA.

    • @jeandiatasmith4512
      @jeandiatasmith4512 4 роки тому +4

      I got back to 901 going father to father and not investigating any females. I have a whole lot of Johannes and Friederichs but no nobility that I recognized. I got us from America to Germany to England when I hit the 901 dead end.

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 роки тому

      @@ryanvoll7088 The further back we go we may not have any DNA remnants from those ancestors.

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 4 роки тому +1

      that is assuming all our female ancestors were faithful, can’t be certain that there isn’t some drama far back in the family tree

  • @bartoszN01
    @bartoszN01 4 роки тому +3

    When will the Africa and America & Oceania posters be out? I'm not telling you to rush, because I want them to have as many details and dynasties as possible, but I'm just curious.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +3

      Probably awhile yet as I've got several projects on the go at once.

    • @bartoszN01
      @bartoszN01 4 роки тому +3

      UsefulCharts Okay I will wait then! ;-)

  • @jesusjones9215
    @jesusjones9215 4 роки тому +3

    Could I buy a copy of this chart, I'm a big fan of this time period. Thank you

  • @suzannewateridge
    @suzannewateridge 4 роки тому +1

    You finally did it!

  • @Popperite
    @Popperite 4 роки тому +13

    As I have heard there is a geneological line through the Artsruni Kings of Armenia that goes back to antiquity. As they are descendants of the Parthian kings.

  • @lindamoore9059
    @lindamoore9059 4 роки тому +1

    Hi There....Geni has a family tree that starts? With Fornjot the ancient giant of Kvenland and the legendary sea kings of what seems to be the first century AD...according to a couple of sources including the Orkneyinga Saga (s).....That line supposedly goes all the way forward to Rollo of Noway who became rhe 1st Duke of Normandy....then unbroken down to william the conqueror and another line through Maugr count of Corbeil from whom the Hamons (knights) and the Grenville line (and supposedly the Grenfell lineages of Cornwall)..Every Grenfell (and all spelling variants especially Granville) in the world are related and the name is listed with the guild of one name studies...In these lines are a good percentage of royal and noble lineages one being Robert the Bruce....I thought I would put in a mention as it would make for interesting research and retelling.

  • @marc-andretrudeau4412
    @marc-andretrudeau4412 4 роки тому +5

    May I ask you why you think the short in Pepin the short means young?
    In french he is called Pepin le Bref. Bref is now mostly used to refer to an amount of time: 《un bref moment》 a short moment, but more rarely can refere to something small.
    The ethymologie points to the latin word Brevis and it seems it was used in the same manner as bref but with a greater emphasis on something being physically small.
    I can see how being young means you had a "short" life compare to someone old, but it seems far fetched to me. Then again I'm no expert on frankish vulgar latin.
    And my college professor who specialised in medival history said it was because he was physically short.
    It would make sens to describe him physically since his wife was known as 《Berthe au Grand pied》or in english Berthe Big-Foot.
    So yea, I would really like to know where you got that particular meaning fort Pepin's nickname.

    • @66sec65
      @66sec65 3 роки тому

      He said the answer in the video. Pepin the ELDER had elder in it. Next was Pepin the MIDDLE meaning middled aged. Then next would be Pepin the SHORT or young which would make sense with the rest of the pepins but idk

    • @marc-andretrudeau4412
      @marc-andretrudeau4412 3 роки тому

      ​@@66sec65 All right, just so you know it's not because someone says something in a youtube video that it is the truth. You need sources to say that something means something, so just saying he said it in the video is nowere near a good answer to my question.
      Pepin the middle is called Pépin le jeune aka Pépin the young in french. He is also called Pépin le Gros or the fat if you prefere, an other reference to the stature. So why would Pepin Le Bref or the Short in english would refere to his age when his father is called the young? It doesnt make sense. Then angain as I said, I'm not an expert on franquish vulgar latin, but my first language is french and I tent to trust the french sources more then the english one on that subject.
      There's Pépin l'Ancien meaning the antient and Pépin le jeune meaning the young, also known as the Fat and then Pépin le Bref. So why would the Bref or the short would refere to his age and not his stature.
      Anyway, I was trying to be open to knew ideas. I was asking questions and your comment is no where near an answer. So I'm just going to stuck with my old professor who had a PhD and spoke french.

    • @66sec65
      @66sec65 3 роки тому

      @@marc-andretrudeau4412 i said “but idk” i don’t really study stuff before Charlemagne besides Cleopatra and Romulus and both Caesar’s

  • @ourresidentcockney8776
    @ourresidentcockney8776 4 роки тому +3

    Never heard that King Arthur story in terms of the whole Jesus thing. Wouldn't surprise me if that legend began as an adapted form of a mythological figure in one of the Anglo-Saxon Royal Genealogies. I think it was about a person called Beowa (I can't recall the exact name). The child was found in the waters, was raised and eventually became the tribal leader. Rather reminiscent of the story of Moses. Was definitely a case of mythological explanation that was taken literally at one point or another.
    Would be great to see a video about those highly contested genealogies sometime!

  • @Normal_user_coniven
    @Normal_user_coniven 4 роки тому +4

    Some theories say that Lambert II is the son of Sigebert II, so, Bourbons have the Y-chromosome of Merovingians.
    However, some other theories say that the male-line relation between Lambert II and Capetians is unclear, so maybe there is no male-line relation to Merovingians, even if Lambert II was a Merovingian,
    and that is because of Robert II, Count of Hesbaye, maybe he is not a son of Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 Рік тому

      I am of the legit real Holy Grail Bloodline

  • @materialgirl338
    @materialgirl338 Рік тому +2

    Finally. I have been studying Sir Laurence Gardner's work.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 Рік тому +1

      He is extremely correct. He woke me up and I was extremely shocked when I found out that he was actually talking about me and my family. After my DNA results and confirmation from my Y-DNA and my father's side that I never knew. I discovered more than I could ever of imagined. I never chose to be apart of this Holy Grail thing.

  • @princekrazie
    @princekrazie 4 роки тому +16

    Last time I was this early China had no emperor yet

  • @biblicaltheology9760
    @biblicaltheology9760 4 роки тому +1

    Hello there. So Ive been doing some research on Charlemagne myself recently and I've got some info id like to share with y'all.
    I understand it's at best speculation but I've come to the conclusion that st Arnulf's of Metz's parents were Ansbertus de Metz and Oda (Chrodoare) Aus Schwaben.
    From there it's to my under standing that his ancestors goes as follows.
    1).Ansbertus ferreolus+Billihild
    2).Tonantius ferreolus+Deuteria
    3).tonantius ferreolus the elder+Industria
    5).Tonantius Ferreolus ferreol+papianilla
    Papianilla's ancestors goes as follows:
    1).Flavius syagrius Afranius+ (?)
    2).Aegedius Afranius de syagrius+ syagrius Postumii Syagrii
    3).Afranius AFRANII de lyon+ Postumii Syagrii de ROME Syagria
    4). Afranius Hannibalianus+Eutropia
    5).Hannibalianus tralles+Flavia minor
    6).Hannibalianus de ROME+Flavia major
    Please note that to my understanding, eutropia is the sister of Constantine I, who's son was Constantine II, whom by the way married flavia theodora, the sister of Afranius AFRANII de lyon
    Flavius majors parents were Titus Flavius Stasicles Metrophanes and Claudia Capitolina (the geneology that I have goes back to about 220 BC)
    From what I currently understand, the current theory about Blithilde is that she might have actually been the daughter of charibert I. Or another words, the grand daughter of chlothar I
    I hope this helps. Keep up the good work. Say you make awesome videos.

  • @Ammmssk
    @Ammmssk 4 роки тому +3

    Great video!! I just keep wonder if there is descendants of Bertha of Kent, hope to see a Gothic family tree soon and how are they related to this one.

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 4 роки тому +2

    Can you do an episode on the Eqyptian princess that married into the French Monarchy? Not sure in what century it happened, but certainly after or just before the roman empire fall. And then do her ancestry, please?

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 роки тому

      Up on that. Tell me more

  • @darcygraystock4325
    @darcygraystock4325 4 роки тому +5

    Amazing! I really enjoy these videos. Can I request an English monarch family tree pre-Alfred the Great? ⭐️

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +1

      That would be great, but wouldn't that be mostly legend? Not that it matters.

    • @darcygraystock4325
      @darcygraystock4325 4 роки тому

      Axolotl - Guy Half and half. Alfred had some pretty rad ancestors. Could include kings of Mercia, East Anglia etc

  • @MichieHoward
    @MichieHoward 4 роки тому +2

    Merovingian Restoration one of my favorite scenarios to play out in CK2.

  • @Nillamir1787
    @Nillamir1787 4 роки тому +3

    Can you do the alouate( moroccon dynasty) family tree

  • @louannestenson1286
    @louannestenson1286 3 роки тому

    Love your channel! ❤️

  • @thomasdixon4373
    @thomasdixon4373 4 роки тому +5

    Been waiting for this vid all day, hey Matt could you do a vid on how John William Friso is connected to all the European monarchies

  • @flygirlfly
    @flygirlfly 4 роки тому +1

    Could you do an exploration of the Czech lands? From the Czech perspective?

  • @Alfalfa_Male
    @Alfalfa_Male 4 роки тому +12

    Hi, I'm regular Deric
    Hi, I'm chill Deric

  • @Music_Dement
    @Music_Dement Рік тому

    15:01: Apparently this doesn't apply to
    Geni/COM
    According to them, some individuals (with private identities) still living today can trace their Genealogy back to Julia Rufus, ancestor of Julius Caesar who lived in BC!
    Where did they get this information from?

  • @gerritlageweg2055
    @gerritlageweg2055 4 роки тому +10

    Merovingian lineage goes back to Troy and before that to Arcadia in Greece.
    When you visit the South of France there are interesting legends to be discovered.

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 роки тому +1

      Lol, thats a copy of the roman myth

  • @harrisonshone7769
    @harrisonshone7769 4 роки тому +2

    The one exception to the Descent from Antiquity problem is China. A generation by generation family tree of the posterity of Confucius has been constructed, and is supported by DNA evidence. Some would also point to the Japanese Royal Family Tree, but that can only be traced back with any historical certainty to around the same time as most European royals.
    Also, even the Romans themselves were obsessed with Descent from Antiquity (e.g. before the Bronze Age Collapse, the Dark Age before our Dark Age). Many aristocratic Roman families claimed descent from the most-likely fictional Kings of Rome and the almost certainly fictional Romulus and Aeneas.

  • @mikeoxsmal8022
    @mikeoxsmal8022 4 роки тому +27

    Funfact clovis is the same name as Louis just earlier version it

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 роки тому +1

      So now the question is whether there have been more than 20 or more than 30 kings name Louis/Clovis in France.

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 роки тому +1

      @@photinodecay lol

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +3

      @@mikeoxsmal8022 Yes indeed. However, It's not Clovis, but Clodovech wo is the first name.
      For everybady a clear neutral non-political pronounciation guide to the names of the merovingian kings. from a linguastic. Stay close to the Dutch prononciaton, not German, not French. Dutch is a derect desentant of Frankish.

    • @MsCherloke
      @MsCherloke 4 роки тому +1

      @@photinodecay Well, there has been 17 French kings named Louis in France. Indeed, the last of the Louis' was Louis the 18th, who came after Louis the 16th during the Restauration after Napoleon's second abdication. For the Bourbons at that time, Louis the 17th was actually the previous king's son, that became it "automatically" (fondamental law of the kingdom) at the execution of his father. But he never ruled, and like as far as it is considered, the First French Republic is vastly considered as the legitimate sovereign from this time (so, overwriting the fondamental laws), we can safely put Louis the 17th out of the list.
      The interesting point is tracing from when they started counting the Louis.
      There has been 4 Clovis during the Merovingians, and the Louis' started under the Caroligians (with Louis the Pious). The first non-carolingian Louis appeared (from 1108) after the firm installation of the Capetians in power (from 987, even if there were some before, but it wasn't constant, more commonly referred as Robertians at that time). Still, he was Louis the VIth, as the first Louis in the French kings genealogy is Louis the Pious, son of Charlemagne and Emperor.
      So it is interesting here : the French kings were referred directly as a continuation of the line of succession of the Carolingians, even after the change of Dynasty in the 10th century. Were this name contested by the east ? No idea. But it shows clearly France as a continuation (even if not the only one) of the Carolingian empire.
      On the other hand, the change of name (and count) from Clovis IV under the Merovingians to Louis I in the Carolingians could show a deeper change between these two dynasties. Which I doubt (Carolingians were the effective rulers of late merovingians' France + with the Pope's confirmation, the Carolingians took directly the crown of a continuous kingdom).
      Even if you don't read French (the pages are pretty clear), it is interesting to compare the list of French monarchs on French and English wikipedia pages (in French to find it : "Liste des monarques de France"). You see clearly the French make it start at Clovis, and the English at the Francia Occidentalis (after Louis the Pious, but still admitting the French numeration of Kings and, for Louis, that include Louis the Pious before the creation of the Francia Occidentalis). I guess it is pretty much a nationalist debate at this point.
      I'm not versed enough in it to have a viewpoint, and I'd be glad to have yours. Aa a French, I guess the anglo-saxon history community might be more objective on it than the French one, but I might be mistaken.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому

      @@MsCherloke Well, the merovingians were at least not French monarchs, that's for shure.

  • @wadebradshaw4352
    @wadebradshaw4352 4 роки тому +2

    11:35
    Why did you call it Gaul?

  • @Aviationlord7742
    @Aviationlord7742 4 роки тому +12

    Time to fire up CK2 and restore the Merovingians to their rightful throne

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 роки тому +2

      Yes!! love it that It's free today!

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 роки тому

      Is that even possible? I thought they were all dead by 769?

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro 3 роки тому +1

      @@Lolpy. No, there's another one....

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 роки тому

      @@1992zorro Oh damn.
      Well I’ve got my next playthrough idea.

  • @exothermicforstability7915
    @exothermicforstability7915 4 роки тому

    Never been so early here. Keep up the good work man!

  • @theHippiecat15
    @theHippiecat15 4 роки тому +11

    The covering up of the holy grail bloodline is one of the most interesting stories in history, much moreso than fancy bloodlines of these autocrats that benefitted from the cover-up.

    • @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570
      @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 3 роки тому +1

      Judging from your political compass map why are you even here? You hate European people that's what the left is today. Malcolm x was right never trust a white liberal how do you trust someone who hates their own kind.

    • @theHippiecat15
      @theHippiecat15 3 роки тому +4

      @@stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 ??????

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 3 роки тому +4

      @@stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 I find it sad how you think that wanting racial equality is the same as "hating your own kind". That's a very racist view.

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 3 роки тому +5

      @@theHippiecat15 Yeah, but the holy grail bloodline story is almost certainly false so that makes it somewhat less interesting in my eyes.

    • @theHippiecat15
      @theHippiecat15 3 роки тому +1

      @@greywolf7577 Historically and contextually it would almost be absurd to pretend the bloodline didn't exist. Theologically and officially I would agree that there is no bloodline and it is unfortunately lost to history.

  • @grantorino2325
    @grantorino2325 4 роки тому +4

    Great video!
    Out of curiosity, though, considering how many women were instrumental in converting Barbarian rulers to Christianity, have you thought of making that part of your Project: HERstory?

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +4

      Good idea for a video.

    • @mostawesomedudeever1
      @mostawesomedudeever1 4 роки тому

      Aren't you a good little brainwashed Cultural Marxist. Have a look into the establishment of the Frankfurt School and their intended outcomes. How I hate Cultural Marxists.

  • @beth7935
    @beth7935 4 роки тому +11

    What I love about the whole "bloodline of Jesus" thing is that it was a prank, & the authors of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" fell for it :D

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 3 роки тому +3

      "Pierre Plantard de St Clair" was a con artist and wanted by French Police for years.

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 3 роки тому +1

      @@thhseeking Yeah, that name sounds familiar, & the fact that he was a big-time con artist. I still don't get how anyone could fall for it tho- I threw the damn book across the room in disgust, & that was before I knew details like that the list of leaders of the whatever-secret-society included well-known people who were dead at the time they were apparently the leader :D

  • @vkain100
    @vkain100 4 роки тому

    It’s funny I was just looking this up at work earlier today, and then I see your video.

  • @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
    @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 4 роки тому +14

    That story about being in the bloodline as jesus reminds me of how rich and powerful nobles tries to link their family to someone famous, for legitimacy. Like how some family tried to link their family to William Wallace.

    • @Lancor84
      @Lancor84 4 роки тому +3

      The historic document, the Chronicles of Fredegar, tell us that the Merowingians possibly descended from a divine seamonster.

    • @daniellepavone5598
      @daniellepavone5598 3 роки тому +1

      Records are secretly kept. They will never let you know the truth. All world leaders are descended from Charlemagne. All presidents of the US are related to this line.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 Рік тому

      ​@@daniellepavone5598As I am as well and they didn't want me knowing who I was. Now I know the truth through Y-DNA testing and most people don't believe me or even look at all the evidence I have and found.

  • @cleartexas
    @cleartexas 4 роки тому +1

    great job, but you failed to mention the house of capet side on the chart. I didn't understand it - could you please explain it for me here or in a subsequent video when you get the chance? I ask because I am linked to Hugh Capet, but I'm hoping I am NOT merovingean (reptilian) blood. Thanks!

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 роки тому +1

      See the link in the description that leads to the video from Charlemagne on. It's mostly about the Capets.

    • @cleartexas
      @cleartexas 4 роки тому +1

      @@UsefulCharts you are so awesome!

  • @Mooseman327
    @Mooseman327 4 роки тому +4

    Senator Joseph McCarthy once referred to President Harry S Truman as "that Merovingian in the White House" during a speech on the Senate floor. I wonder if he knew something we don't.

    • @lexxluther5589
      @lexxluther5589 3 роки тому

      Do you have a source or link for this sir as it's very interesting? I would like to look that up

  • @DavidSmith-yu3mc
    @DavidSmith-yu3mc 2 роки тому

    Matt Baker! I have bought 6 of your poster/charts. I love them! Love the channel! I wish you would sell a poster of the Merovingians! I'd definitely buy it! I also have seen a few ties of Charlemagne's wife (Hildegard) to Dagobert I. Any idea if they are true? I would also love to see a big chart of the Anglo-Saxon kings, like your video (by Jasmine Elleway). Something like your European Royal Family Tree posters. I'd definitely buy that as well! Please consider offering these for sale!

  • @gilgalbiblewheel6313
    @gilgalbiblewheel6313 3 роки тому +3

    Does the fleur-de-lys represent the Merovingians? Are the Capets related to them? And what about the fleurs-de-lys in the Farnese insignia? and didn't the Medicis use it as well?

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 роки тому

      Farnese insignia ? Seems very late, lys appeared after charlemagne i think

    • @shahbanu-amestris
      @shahbanu-amestris 6 місяців тому

      The Farnese and Medici had the fleur-de-lys on their court court of arms because of their Guelph political sympathies.
      The fleur-de-lys was brought to Italy by the French prince Charles of Anjou, who became king of Naples and Sicily with the pope's blessing. Afterwards, his family members became important leaders of the Guelphs, who adopted the Capetian House of Anjou's fleur de lys as a symbol.

  • @alejandrocarrillo2143
    @alejandrocarrillo2143 6 місяців тому +1

    There is another fascinating theory in a book called Esoteric Napoleon, that might have hit the nail on the head. Napoleon seems to have gone through some sort of vetting process. He was groomed. Napoleon may have had knowledge of his own bloodline and it was much much much significant than standard history would allow. One of the key things is the symbolism that Napoleon very much made deliberate use of. That symbol is the bee. His imperial robe during the coronation had golden bees. That is a symbol of the Merovingian dynasty. If he was connected to the Merovingian dynasty then he had a much more ancient claim on the throne of France than the people of the House of Bourbon themselves. Because they of course are related to Charlemagne house which replaced the Merovingian dynasty in the 6th century.
    Napoleon had two things working in the background. The Merovingian bloodline symbolism, and there is some sort of clear masonic influence working in the background. After all who he takes to Egypt? He takes a bunch of scholars. Who are those scholars? Well... they are masons. He was put into this thing by Charles Maurice de Talleyrand, and there again there is no evidence he was a mason, but everybody around him is. Talleyrand is one of these high degree masons that is guiding Napoleon to go to Egypt. That whole expedition was masonic inspired.

    • @BrazilianImperialist
      @BrazilianImperialist 4 місяці тому

      Don't forget his Rothschild connections, wich sat at his right hand in dinners

    • @lalo-kt4te
      @lalo-kt4te Місяць тому

      Napoleon also sold Louisiana to the U.S which the founders were also Masons. Interesting 🤔

  • @iagosevatar4865
    @iagosevatar4865 4 роки тому +3

    Brunehilde and Frédégonde : the very original crazy bitches^^

  • @adisk387
    @adisk387 4 роки тому

    Great Video, 13:02 you said the "Pope Decided" Were all these monarchs subservient to the Bishop of Rome? Doesn't that make him to the true ruler?

    • @marshalljohnson7690
      @marshalljohnson7690 4 роки тому

      Short answer no. The Pope was asked to conduct he Kings coronation ceremony. The Pope using the "Donation of Constantine" and declared he was the one chosen by God to determine the new King. The story goes a King was born because he descended from King David and therefore his land was a inheritance at birth. The ceremony was just another reason to throw a party back in those days. This is the hidden story if told would re-write history as well as the Roman Catholic Church. Some say the documents were all burned but the only known copies exist in the Vatican archive. I guess we may be looking at judgement day. The mere speak of this was and still is dangerous.