"As Alphys is familiar with anim, she should have a fairly good idea what humans of varying ages look like". This is the funniest sentence I've heard all week. For all alphys knows, Frisk could be a 200 year old vampire. Alphys is the least likely to guess their age.
They do clarify it later (kind of). I don't know why this was even entertained tho. "She knows history through anime, and from that concluded that all humans fought battle with MASSIVE swords (as seen in Undyne's house), and thus can concluded age well" yeah, sure buddy
The funny part is that I always thought that Frisk was around 11-13. Why? Well, the kids from the Mother series tend to be in this age range, and that series inspired Undertale a lot, so...
3:36 Huh, never even considered that. Frisk not being interested in the toys is really telling of not only their age, but hints at a "I'm a big kid now!" mentality haha.
it's evidence, but says literally nothing on it's own. it could be because Frisk is too old, it could be because Frisk doesn't specifically like Chara/Asriel's toys, it could be that Frisk never liked toys at all. There is no way to put one above another unless you take it in context of the whole. This one data points says nothing alone
It's great to see thoughts I've had for years so clearly articulated with great research to back them up! As someone who's always seen Frisk in that 12 - 13 age range, it's gotten tiring seeing people *insist* they are only like 4 - 8 or something. xD Obviously, a lot of who Frisk is is open-ended, but it's so cool to see a really well researched vid on the topic. I hope it performs well!
Hey Dorked, didn’t expect to see you here, as a friend of Underlore, I respect you giving him the attention he deserves, Underlore works really hard on these sort of things and definitely deserves all the love he can get Anyways, about Inverted fate Neutral-
Ah yes, the age-old question of "How old is this child and where are their parents." Really well researched though! Awesome vid man, hope to see more in the future! :D
"and where are their parents." Unironically, this is also something that i would like to make a video about someday. I have a fairly extensive theory on the subject.
The successor to Underlab, and a major proof that, unlike what he claims these days, Undertale is still being actively discussed, for there is still a lot to be touched on in this little big game. Just felt the need to say this. Very well done, looking forward to more!
And even if there wasn’t a lot of things to discuss these days, then we could just talk about topics already discussed about but provide more evidence and explanation.
I've always assumed Frisk was a pre-teen, but like, 11 or something. 11 years old is when you still look like a child and it's considered being a teenager in Poland (the place where I come from), so I could see similarities between kids and my classmates! Again, I most likely thought Frisk was 11 because... I was 11 at the time of playing this game. Good to know it was accurate though!
I wouldn't say in Poland that being 11 is like being a teen here. It's just the word pre-teen dosen't exist here, at least I never heard about the Polish substitute to that word.
@@nataliamarchlewska7015 *polish person here* I think that some people think 11 is being a teen, while others not. I think the person is saying that 11 year olds are considered teens is because (Mind that nastolatek is teenager in Polish) jedeNAŚCIE dwaNAŚCIE trzyNAŚCIE czterNAŚCIE piętNAŚCIE And it goes on until 20 (but I don’t think 19 year olds are considered teenagers) Like I’m English, it works with a small part of a word in the number thirTEEN fourTEEN Etc… Althought I do see a lot of polish people thinking that 13 is the moment you become a teen
I agree that Frisk is somewhere around 12, but wouldn’t it be funny that somehow a 3 year old stumbled their way through the Underground, beat up a giant goat, and saved the world?
well researched, well written, and well edited! and I agree, it is unfortunate that Frisk is not actually two books tall. hopefully this massive oversight is corrected in undertale chapter 2
Interesting on how Frisk still isn’t completely accurate from the fan base tells. I had wondered if the pre-teens age gap was underestimated by the UT community
I've always been on the mind that regardless of what end of the "kid" range one puts them on, Frisk is almost definitely on the precocious side due to them, as you said, seemingly being implied as knowing things most kids wouldn't.
One thing: Kris is anywhere between 11 - 14, as their school is very clearly a middle school. Kris is taller than Frisk, so I’d assume they’d be between 7 - 10, which considering that’s around the age kids in my elementary school started trying to impress girls with expectations of lifetime effects, makes this idea even more likely. Also, by using Deltarune’s door height and assuming Kris of 5’0” that would make frisk 4’0” which is the average height for 7 - 10 year olds. Edit: I have changed my opinions, and I agree with replies saying Kris is in High School and is 14 - 16. 18 doesn’t make as much sense though because they are referred to as a teenager, but 14 - 16 makes sense. With this I’ll be a bit more lenient and say Frisk is between 10 - 12. I don’t think Frisk would be a teenager because unlike Kris nobody refers to them as anything other than kid.
Nah, Kris has to be closer to 16 - 18, IMO. Catti works in a restaurant, and most restaurants would never hire under the age of 16. Plus they all act like high schoolers and Toriel talks like Kris will be going to college soon rather than later in addition to Tem preparing for college. That's not really a middle school age thing, IMO. Frisk being 12 - 13 still works perfectly well given the series' mother influence and Frisk and Chara being proportionally very similar to the Mother protags who are preteens.
@@Dorked Edit: This comment is redundant because my new concept is in the original comment, but I will keep this one because I don’t want to make people feel like I’m covering up my mistakes. While that could be true, multiple things wouldn’t line up. Kris would be pretty short at 17, concidering I was 5’0” when I was barely 11, and I’ve only continued to grow since. We can also rule out that it’s detail over size accuracy, because everything is completely to scale when being measured using door heights. Kris also would probably be driving themself to school if they were over 16 since it’s a short drive with only a few turns and for some reason no stop signs.
@@grayanddevpdx Not necessarily. Toriel is an incredibly doting parent, and a lot of the other NPCs like Bratty and Catty shown just hanging around town without a car in sight. It's a small town. Besides that, there are no exact confirmed heights for Kris and co. For instance, I'm an adult and I'm only around 5'2'' - 5'3''. The video even goes into depth about why you can't necessarily discern 1:1 realistic overworld heights. Door heights aren't always the best estimate either because Asgore is HUGE, yet the doors in his house in Undertale are too small for him. :p I think it's best to treat overworld heights as rough estimates, especially when monsters make up the bulk of the cast and the Undertale intro shows Asgore as really large. Everything seems to paint the main class in Deltarune as high school aged and simply sharing a building with younger students due to it being a small town (this can happen). Plus, Catti working in a restaurant, Berdly doing multiple volunteer positions, and Temmie prepping for college all seem to paint them as high school-adjacent, IMO.
@@Dorked Maybe. The more you bring up, the more natural it feels. I guess I’m just getting mental whiplash because a lot of the characters act like middle schoolers or younger, but maybe it’s just Toby’s writing being really good at making it feel like it’s a different culture without having to make it feel unrecognizable from the players, who are mostly American and Japanese.
It's a really nice theory. I actually haven't seen a lot of videos about this topic so it's interesting to me. Keep up the great work and as always stay determined!
Maybe a good idea is to compare berdly and noelle's toddler sprites in deltarune with frisk's? I think that in the same scene where these sprites appear, it is mentioned that it was a kindergarten contest, so we could assume that they were 5 - 6 years old at the time. Anyways, good video! I've always thought that Frisk was 8-9 years old, but it's just my headcanon, of course
The issue of the accuracy of sprite heights mentioned in the video poses itself with this idea. Without a reliable reason to believe those sprites to be size accurate, using them would likely lead to unreliable results.
This is a very good theory. Some people think of Frisk as 5-8, but Pre-teen is very accurate. Frisk can Flirt perfectly, can Fight with powerful monsters, and can even brutally murder everyone, so does that make them a toddler? And if some people think that Frisk is still a toddler because most monsters underground call her 'Child' or 'Kid', that maaaay be because, oh, y'know, theY'RE LIKE WHAT 200 YEARS OLD?!?
@@ShabsUIDThing is that toddler wouldnt even have much idea of violence when we take that Frisk is around 8 years But closer to teen ages usually people are getting taste of violence,so for 11-14 years old Frisk actually killing someone is not that far from being possible And also considering how LV makes it easier to kill someone in cold blood,first few kills are accidental but then Frisk just begins to enjoy killing and all that stuff
7:55 It's implied by Snowdrake's Heckle dialogue that Frisk has suffered through some stuff ("You tell the Snowdrake that no one will ever love them the way they are...."). The narrator might recognize this and decide to make these types of jokes, even if Frisk is younger than the assumption.
I’ve personally always hc Frisk as 10-11. And for Chara (controversial take) 16-17. Why so old? Because I think it’s more funny to imagine Chara was going through their edgy teen phase when they made their plan. Also the idea Chara being like this older narrator who’s direct because they just want to move on like a permanently done teen is fun. Asriel in my hc thinks that Frisk is Chara because he remembers their younger self more fondly and is hardcore coping.
I personally headcannon Frisk as 11, maybe 12, and this video really helps that. I've never given it much thought before but this is a really fun video
frisk is sensing the EVIL AURA OF THE PIE or the narrator is lying and being funny( ex: frisk just doesn't want it but the narrator decideds to make fun of frisk for this)
ooh, the editing hooked me in from the beginning, and the video only got better from there! you clearly put a lot of time and passion into researching and writing this. and with such a refreshingly logical take too. can't wait to see where this channel goes from here
4:44 I always saw this as Frisk thinking that they'll be too full by the time they finish eating it, not as a threat. A full pie being too much for Frisk _does_ imply a younger age group, however not as much as said pie being scary.
Monster kid says that all kids wear striped shirts which is why he, along with Asriel and Chara, wears a striped shirt. Frisk doesn't wear the same color shirt but is wearing a striped one so we can determine that Frisk is a kid. Also, Frisk not being interested in the toys could be because Chara, who is the narrator, doesn't want Frisk to mess with their old toys, so Chara states that Frisk isn't interested. Toriel calls you "my child" and Asgore calls you "young one" and they do know what a human child looks like since they raised Chara. These reasons can confirm that Frisk IS a child, despite some weird other stuff that happens in Undertale (like Papyrus dating you, for some reason).
In my story, I chose to make them 8, mainly due to how little they seem to talk. If they had a bit more of a "personality", then I probably would have interpreted them as slightly older. Of course, the point about the characters sometimes using more mature themes around them is valid, and I don't have a satisfactory explanation for that. Perhaps the characters simply misjudged Frisk. And if anything, flirting with everyone so much is what I personally would expect from a mid-teen rather than a tween. So... eh, who knows.
Frisk actually talks quite a lot in the game. It is just that they do not use the classic textbox format when they do unlike other characters. They talk to monsters like Papyrus, Alphys or Undyne during the dating segments, they talk through the phone quite often, they also frequently choose to respond to characters on their own with no player input. When the latter happens, the characters usually paraphrase what Frisk has just said such as when Flowey says "Huh ? Why am i doing this ?" or Gerson says "Huh ? What if the child is a human... What ?" as ways to tell us that Frisk just asked these things to them. Besides, lots of the ACTs in game involve Frisk talking one way or another anyway such as taunting Undyne or cheering up Napstablook.
@@underlore3774 Indeed so. However, they still have that silent/shy feel about them, even if they ultimately do speak a lot. Like I mentioned, it's mainly their lack of charisma that I think is indicative of this. If I were to compare it with some AUs, the Frisk from Inverted Fate is how I would imagine a tween talk and act.
@@Tsskyx frisk managed to talk their way out of dozens of battles of monsters who wanted to kill humans for their entire life with considerable ease, frisk don't lack charisma, they actually have an insane good charisma.
@@girosvaldodeskate2214 Considering the synergy between them and the player, it must have taken them several tries before they discovered what makes each monster tick - because I know I had to, I definitely didn't figure out each encounter on the first try. We can also speculate that, if the narrator talks more than just what we can see, they could have helped Frisk as well.
@@Tsskyx if the narrator is even a character, then that character probabilly is the kid the other dead kid so i don't know how much that would help, and like, mechanically you will like, talk 5 phrases and you should already spared the monster, its not like you die in every fight
Regardless if the certain things Frisk is interested at or not, it can be just Toby having fun with certain interactions within the game. Or the multiple interests and dislikes of Frisk is mainly due to the fact that Frisk is still supposed to be you. Not knowing what you would like or dislike, the multiple things Frisk likes or not is flexible enough to fit with what you would like
I headcannoned Frisk falling in their atleast pre teens, and mid teenage at oldest. Mainly cause puberty makes people more independent, how is Frisk being independent? Climbing a mountain!
nice video! I always headcannoned Frisk as being in their pre-teens, so this not only... basically confirms my headcannon, but is also a really well made video.
I can personally see Frisk as anywhere from 8-13 years old, MAYBE 14 but I’d say that’s about the upper age limit for Frisk. IMO the above age range is the most realistic for Frisk.
This is cool, I'm glad someone's finally addressing this. I've never actually minded people seeing frisks age as being really young, probably because I thought they were like 4 for a while and it makes a cute idea. Unfortunately people use this 'agelessness' to make gross fan art and ships. I can get wanting to ship characters and stuff, its cute and fun, but for gods sake frisk is a child
Frisk's age is ambiguous and undefined, but a definite general range is provided as they're consistently repeatedly called a kid. There's no way anyone could realistically construe that into "well actually they could be 25"
@@Feu2032 Yeah, Sans is around 28 I believe. So, even if it implies that they waited until Frisk was at least 18, he would be between 40 and 47. Which is all kinds of messed up, especially if Sans knew Frisk before they were an adult.
Frisk is definitely not an teenager she is less then teen ager and the game makes Frisk's personality a pre teen and the monsters in the underground call frisk a child or kid for a reason frisk is at least 9 or 12 High-12 Low-9
Finally some new gas to the Undertale UA-cam Community! Really like the video and points you made in it. For me personally Frisk was always between 10-12(or 13). I have a suggestion on a video you could make if you are pretending to continue this series. It's something I thought a while ago regarding how much Flowey "lived", I tried posting It on Reddit but It didn't got much attention. If you're interrested just reply and I'll send you the original post I made.😄
@@underlore3774 It's ok! Keep the good work man. If you someday happen to use my post to a video feel free to do so! But if you do so please mention me, It would make me very happy :). (Tried to send the link but Yt keeps deleting... search my nickname on Reddit. It's the same as here)
Honestly anytime I see a young character in a game who’s age isn’t told and I can tell they are more of a child age a common age range I’ve given them is like- 8-13. It’s allows for development in the brain to be noted and understood yet also allows for some personal interpretation.
I personally agree with the idea that Frisk is in their pre-teens, since I always imagined them being 12-13 years old. But that was honestly a personal bias since I was 13 when I first played Undertale, soooooo
"as alphys is familiar with anime, she should have a fairly good idea" like i havent seen many animes but thats probably one of the most innacurate sources for human age you can find
Finally, it's here! The video I've waiting for since I followed your tumblr account. I enjoyed your theories there and I'm exited for those to be made as videos! Take care your time making those videos.
Thank you very much ! Not all videos which i plan on posting here will be tumblr adaptations though. Some will be, but others will come out on UA-cam first.
Okay, I'm pretty new to the undertale fandom. Thank you for making a proper video about undertale in 2022, I only joined this fandom around June time. Also, I think frisk is around the age of 12, but the age guesses of others are from the age of 4-14. (I don't get it either lol)
The point with the leaves is based not on certainty but on likelihood. It is possible for a grown man to play with leaves just as well as it is possible for a child younger than 10 to lose all interest in toys. These are just rarer occurrences. These details only take importance in comparison with each other. For instance, one of those two things is rarer before the age of 10 while the other gets rarer after early teens. Taken together, they make it appear that Frisk's relationship with playing specifically would be one which would fit a child between 10 and 14 the most. These points alone do not mean they have to be in that age range, they simply make it appear statistically a bit more likely for them to be.
At the end of the True Pacifist, right before the Asriel Dreemurr fight, when Undyne and Alphys kiss, Toriel says "Hey! Not in front of the Human!" So I always naturally assumed that he was a little kid.
the average is too big, frisk is 7000 years old, like alphys says. Edit: The pie may be an exception, as it is one of the only disrepencies, meaning that frisk may have sensed the evil aura that the pie was holding and was thus intimidated. This would thus lower the age range.
1:23 It's not impossible that it's chara who read things for frisk, i've seen a comicdub with that. That explain too how frisk can understand what the froggits say.
I hope a lot of ppl find this video and can do a double take on Frisk being a toddler like, sorry but a toddler cannot possiblely do this whole adventure man + more characters would've stopped them from it usually (in american and european culture iirc) around the pre-teen ages you're allowed to go off into your neighbour, not when you're a toddler, then even strangers stop and bring you to the police (also with how Earthbound-influenced this game is I was expecting pre-teen or just 13 aswell)
And here I honestly thought they were 7. But seriously, this video is really well made, is seriously underrated, and deserves a sub on it's own. Congrats, here you go! (I'm talking about a sub)
I always asumed Frisk was somewhere betwenn 13 (youngest) and 16, maybe 17 (oldest). With the adition of Kris in the spin off game, I mostly think Frisk wouldn't be older than 16. The reason I mainly think so, is that most of the adults in game are unteliable narrators when it comes to Frisks age. Torial, Asgore and the turtle guy who's name I can't spell, in particular, becouse they are the oldest monsters around. And I mean "possibly old enough to have been part of the original war"-old. Old people sometimes see mid 20 year olds still as "kids" in real live. Can't imagine how far the "kid" spectrum goes for monsters that old xD The "striped shirt" line is also unreliable, becouse Monster Kid just asumes everyone wearing a striped shirt is a kid, and even if that's a thing in monster culture, there is no proof that human culture in the game follows the same rule. So yeah, I went mostly with Frisks behaviour to roughly judge their age, becouse I don't trust any of the monsters judgment xD
@@ahihi.14 Deltarun is basically an Undertale AU. The shit ton of returning characters, MAJOR characters at that, as well as reocuring story aspects makes it more of a spin off than a completely independant game. Hell "Deltarune" is not only just an anagram for "Untertale", the Deltarune symbol is also something first established in Undertale xD The games are directly linkt to each other, without beeing directly part of each other. It's fascinating! :3
Frisk is definitely not an teenager you can tell the author definitely wanted frisk to be a child and not a teen because of the hight in the game. Frisk is definitely a pre teen if not so then 9
@@ShabsUID Frisk is the same/almost the same hight as Alphies and Sans. So is the scientist dating a fish lady, and the skeleton running like 10 jobs at once, also only 9 or 10? The hight of pixel sprites isn't really indicative of a characters actual hight, let alone their age. What would help, would have been a picture with more realistic proportions. (The game "Ib" did something like that. On the map, the characters are all almost the same hight when it comes to their pixel sprites. But things like cut scenes (the mirror scene comes to mind) give us a realistic look at how big the characters are compared to each other. Undertale never gives us anything like that. Closest we get is the picture of the Dreemure family, and from that one we only learn that Chara and Asriel are roughly the same hight, and that they both might have been roughly the hight of Asgore and Toriels stomache. But since we don't know how big Asgore and Toriel are compared to grown humans, that isn't telling us much eather.)
or you can just like.. pay attention to toriel. i mean she literally calls frisk a "youth" in the start of a game - a youth is someone around the age of 9 - 12
I thought that frisk was probably around 12, but that makes me wonder how old Kris would be? They seem like they would be a bit older, maybe around 14. I mostly think Kris is older due to their height, which isn’t the most accurate way to determine age, but there’s also they way they act, as they seem a bit more mature. I hope you make more videos like this, they way explained everything made it easy to follow, which can be difficult sometimes, especially when talking about undertale.
@@Mysinginghuman that could also be accurate. It’s pretty hard to tell, but I think if we find out what kind of work they do in class in later chapters , we could have a better guess as to what Kris’s age is, along with their classmates
This video is an absolute banger. If this doesn't get picked up and skyrockets you to the moon then they youtube algorithim is more cruel and unusual then we thought
Subscribed! I hope to see your channel grow! :) Well researched, well-written. The only thing I can give you as constructive criticism is the microphone quality. I don't think it's really bad at all, but that is the first thing that most people notice about a youtube video after the thumbnail and title. On youtube this can cause a snow-ball effect where a few people click off because they assume the content won't be of good quality, which in turn causes the algorithm to recommend it less. This can easily kill or sabotage smaller channels. (At least that's how it worked a few months ago. I think it makes sense, unfortunately.) Top-notch quality content, though!
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"As Alphys is familiar with anim, she should have a fairly good idea what humans of varying ages look like". This is the funniest sentence I've heard all week. For all alphys knows, Frisk could be a 200 year old vampire. Alphys is the least likely to guess their age.
They do clarify it later (kind of). I don't know why this was even entertained tho. "She knows history through anime, and from that concluded that all humans fought battle with MASSIVE swords (as seen in Undyne's house), and thus can concluded age well"
yeah, sure buddy
@@Maker0824 Alphys knows actual human history she just tells Undyne that anime is history to impress her.
Frisk probably has a stand by now
After seeing jojos, she must be thinking frisk is like...2 years old
@@sandcastle9905 Jotaro is 17, Alpys probably thinks Frisk is just some months old.
The funny part is that I always thought that Frisk was around 11-13. Why? Well, the kids from the Mother series tend to be in this age range, and that series inspired Undertale a lot, so...
posso confirmar, eu faço coisa
@@yagomizuma2275 cierto
@@yagomizuma2275 Não entendi nada
Nah frisk still 8 years old
@@9Sans7 according to what?
3:36 Huh, never even considered that. Frisk not being interested in the toys is really telling of not only their age, but hints at a "I'm a big kid now!" mentality haha.
I thoguht Friak was just an odd kid who didn't like toys for some reason.
@@agsilverradio2225 fair read as well
@@agsilverradio2225 or perhaps they weren't toys that interested them, simply due to a difference in preference or interests from the original owner.
it's evidence, but says literally nothing on it's own. it could be because Frisk is too old, it could be because Frisk doesn't specifically like Chara/Asriel's toys, it could be that Frisk never liked toys at all.
There is no way to put one above another unless you take it in context of the whole. This one data points says nothing alone
@@Maker0824 Man's really went "well actually" over considering how a point lines up with a headcanon lmao.
It's great to see thoughts I've had for years so clearly articulated with great research to back them up! As someone who's always seen Frisk in that 12 - 13 age range, it's gotten tiring seeing people *insist* they are only like 4 - 8 or something. xD Obviously, a lot of who Frisk is is open-ended, but it's so cool to see a really well researched vid on the topic. I hope it performs well!
Hey Dorked, didn’t expect to see you here, as a friend of Underlore, I respect you giving him the attention he deserves, Underlore works really hard on these sort of things and definitely deserves all the love he can get
Anyways, about Inverted fate Neutral-
@@lilmushy5187 :P I know that's a joke, but funnily, Inverted Fate technically has a "neutral ending" (parts 47 and 48).
@@Dorked yeah I guess
how old would that make chara then? since there dead do we count there age or not?
@@Mik-wf8lx Probably in the same age range as Frisk. They seem very well spoken and well read, so probably a higher reading level, too.
Ah yes, the age-old question of "How old is this child and where are their parents."
Really well researched though! Awesome vid man, hope to see more in the future! :D
"and where are their parents."
Unironically, this is also something that i would like to make a video about someday. I have a fairly extensive theory on the subject.
@@underlore3774 ...you have a theory about Frisk's parents? nice
Yep. It is already on tumblr actually.
@@underlore3774 Ooo!! Sounds awesome! :D I can’t wait to see it!
@@underlore3774 cool!
The successor to Underlab, and a major proof that, unlike what he claims these days, Undertale is still being actively discussed, for there is still a lot to be touched on in this little big game. Just felt the need to say this.
Very well done, looking forward to more!
That was my FIRST thought.
I have an underlab recommendation right under this. UA-cam agrees as well
And even if there wasn’t a lot of things to discuss these days, then we could just talk about topics already discussed about but provide more evidence and explanation.
I like underlab but he was straight up wrong in his waterfall castle theory, it is confirmed by Papyrus if you phone him that the castle was Asgore's
Don't insult Underlore like that 😤
I've always assumed Frisk was a pre-teen, but like, 11 or something. 11 years old is when you still look like a child and it's considered being a teenager in Poland (the place where I come from), so I could see similarities between kids and my classmates! Again, I most likely thought Frisk was 11 because... I was 11 at the time of playing this game. Good to know it was accurate though!
Imagine being a teenager at 11 lol I feel like 11 year olds are still like little kids
I wouldn't say in Poland that being 11 is like being a teen here. It's just the word pre-teen dosen't exist here, at least I never heard about the Polish substitute to that word.
@@nataliamarchlewska7015 *polish person here*
I think that some people think 11 is being a teen, while others not.
I think the person is saying that 11 year olds are considered teens is because
(Mind that nastolatek is teenager in Polish)
jedeNAŚCIE
dwaNAŚCIE
trzyNAŚCIE
czterNAŚCIE
piętNAŚCIE
And it goes on until 20 (but I don’t think 19 year olds are considered teenagers)
Like I’m English, it works with a small part of a word in the number
thirTEEN
fourTEEN
Etc…
Althought I do see a lot of polish people thinking that 13 is the moment you become a teen
im from poland too XD siema
Agreed. Frisk is most definitely a preteen in looks and the peeks of their personality
I agree that Frisk is somewhere around 12, but wouldn’t it be funny that somehow a 3 year old stumbled their way through the Underground, beat up a giant goat, and saved the world?
well researched, well written, and well edited! and I agree, it is unfortunate that Frisk is not actually two books tall. hopefully this massive oversight is corrected in undertale chapter 2
Smh Toby Fox, fix your game.
@@underlore3774 literally unplayable
@@underlore3774 taller looking frisk would be cursed
@@hmusic2278 tell that to the fandom
@@underlore3774 yeah Toby, half of the game just had Megalovania as the ost.
I’ve always thought frisk is 10-13. It makes more sense than 5
i used ADVANCED CALCULATIN METHODS to calculate thats shes exactly 12. (calculated by smartness and more…)
Interesting on how Frisk still isn’t completely accurate from the fan base tells. I had wondered if the pre-teens age gap was underestimated by the UT community
Let's just say Frisk is a pre-teen that has been exposed to the internet
@Eddie sadly, Frisk knows just about the same amount as us at their age
Just like me 😂
I always asumed frisk to be around 12 because of their behavior, it always seemed somewhat mature if not anywhere near adult so i guessed around 12.
Between 9-12 imo.
I think 12 as well but could aldo be 11-13 because everything said in the video is valid for this age group
I'd say 10 - 13. They aren't immature but also don't act very mature either
I've always been on the mind that regardless of what end of the "kid" range one puts them on, Frisk is almost definitely on the precocious side due to them, as you said, seemingly being implied as knowing things most kids wouldn't.
One thing: Kris is anywhere between 11 - 14, as their school is very clearly a middle school. Kris is taller than Frisk, so I’d assume they’d be between 7 - 10, which considering that’s around the age kids in my elementary school started trying to impress girls with expectations of lifetime effects, makes this idea even more likely. Also, by using Deltarune’s door height and assuming Kris of 5’0” that would make frisk 4’0” which is the average height for 7 - 10 year olds.
Edit: I have changed my opinions, and I agree with replies saying Kris is in High School and is 14 - 16. 18 doesn’t make as much sense though because they are referred to as a teenager, but 14 - 16 makes sense. With this I’ll be a bit more lenient and say Frisk is between 10 - 12. I don’t think Frisk would be a teenager because unlike Kris nobody refers to them as anything other than kid.
Finally a good accurate answer
Nah, Kris has to be closer to 16 - 18, IMO. Catti works in a restaurant, and most restaurants would never hire under the age of 16. Plus they all act like high schoolers and Toriel talks like Kris will be going to college soon rather than later in addition to Tem preparing for college. That's not really a middle school age thing, IMO. Frisk being 12 - 13 still works perfectly well given the series' mother influence and Frisk and Chara being proportionally very similar to the Mother protags who are preteens.
@@Dorked Edit: This comment is redundant because my new concept is in the original comment, but I will keep this one because I don’t want to make people feel like I’m covering up my mistakes.
While that could be true, multiple things wouldn’t line up. Kris would be pretty short at 17, concidering I was 5’0” when I was barely 11, and I’ve only continued to grow since. We can also rule out that it’s detail over size accuracy, because everything is completely to scale when being measured using door heights. Kris also would probably be driving themself to school if they were over 16 since it’s a short drive with only a few turns and for some reason no stop signs.
@@grayanddevpdx Not necessarily. Toriel is an incredibly doting parent, and a lot of the other NPCs like Bratty and Catty shown just hanging around town without a car in sight. It's a small town. Besides that, there are no exact confirmed heights for Kris and co. For instance, I'm an adult and I'm only around 5'2'' - 5'3''. The video even goes into depth about why you can't necessarily discern 1:1 realistic overworld heights. Door heights aren't always the best estimate either because Asgore is HUGE, yet the doors in his house in Undertale are too small for him. :p
I think it's best to treat overworld heights as rough estimates, especially when monsters make up the bulk of the cast and the Undertale intro shows Asgore as really large.
Everything seems to paint the main class in Deltarune as high school aged and simply sharing a building with younger students due to it being a small town (this can happen). Plus, Catti working in a restaurant, Berdly doing multiple volunteer positions, and Temmie prepping for college all seem to paint them as high school-adjacent, IMO.
@@Dorked Maybe. The more you bring up, the more natural it feels. I guess I’m just getting mental whiplash because a lot of the characters act like middle schoolers or younger, but maybe it’s just Toby’s writing being really good at making it feel like it’s a different culture without having to make it feel unrecognizable from the players, who are mostly American and Japanese.
It's a really nice theory. I actually haven't seen a lot of videos about this topic so it's interesting to me.
Keep up the great work and as always stay determined!
I've always thought Frisk was about 9-12, so this adds up!
Maybe a good idea is to compare berdly and noelle's toddler sprites in deltarune with frisk's? I think that in the same scene where these sprites appear, it is mentioned that it was a kindergarten contest, so we could assume that they were 5 - 6 years old at the time.
Anyways, good video! I've always thought that Frisk was 8-9 years old, but it's just my headcanon, of course
The issue of the accuracy of sprite heights mentioned in the video poses itself with this idea. Without a reliable reason to believe those sprites to be size accurate, using them would likely lead to unreliable results.
Frisk looks older than them just about in a similar way to how Kris looks older than Frisk, so the theory still works with that
@@underlore3774 What about the toddler Noelle sprite she turns into for a second when she brings up her part? This one should be accurate
@@LittleDevilAkuma it's the same sprite as the one in the scene with berdly, only from the side
Hey, this is really interesting! Honestly, I've never really thought about Frisk's age, I just assumed they were probably a little kid, lol
This is a very good theory. Some people think of Frisk as 5-8, but Pre-teen is very accurate. Frisk can Flirt perfectly, can Fight with powerful monsters, and can even brutally murder everyone, so does that make them a toddler? And if some people think that Frisk is still a toddler because most monsters underground call her 'Child' or 'Kid', that maaaay be because, oh, y'know, theY'RE LIKE WHAT 200 YEARS OLD?!?
Good point.
Dont use *frisk kills powerful monsters* logic in game mechanics or physical game mechanics to scale Frisk it ain't accurate.
@@ShabsUIDThing is that toddler wouldnt even have much idea of violence when we take that Frisk is around 8 years
But closer to teen ages usually people are getting taste of violence,so for 11-14 years old Frisk actually killing someone is not that far from being possible
And also considering how LV makes it easier to kill someone in cold blood,first few kills are accidental but then Frisk just begins to enjoy killing and all that stuff
7:55 It's implied by Snowdrake's Heckle dialogue that Frisk has suffered through some stuff ("You tell the Snowdrake that no one will ever love them the way they are...."). The narrator might recognize this and decide to make these types of jokes, even if Frisk is younger than the assumption.
I’ve personally always hc Frisk as 10-11. And for Chara (controversial take) 16-17. Why so old? Because I think it’s more funny to imagine Chara was going through their edgy teen phase when they made their plan. Also the idea Chara being like this older narrator who’s direct because they just want to move on like a permanently done teen is fun. Asriel in my hc thinks that Frisk is Chara because he remembers their younger self more fondly and is hardcore coping.
I personally headcannon Frisk as 11, maybe 12, and this video really helps that. I've never given it much thought before but this is a really fun video
I'd be intimidated by a pie that looks like it's has meter in diameter
frisk is sensing the EVIL AURA OF THE PIE
or the narrator is lying and being funny( ex: frisk just doesn't want it but the narrator decideds to make fun of frisk for this)
@@zixvirzjghamn737 -2000 aura
ooh, the editing hooked me in from the beginning, and the video only got better from there! you clearly put a lot of time and passion into researching and writing this. and with such a refreshingly logical take too. can't wait to see where this channel goes from here
10:39 I looked at this frame, went to my kitchen, stood in front of my sink, and calculated they're probably in their late pre-teens to early teens
4:44 I always saw this as Frisk thinking that they'll be too full by the time they finish eating it, not as a threat. A full pie being too much for Frisk _does_ imply a younger age group, however not as much as said pie being scary.
Bro even at peak growth, people just don't eat a full ass pie, especially one the size of your head
I personally imagine Frisk as 6 - 10 years old child, developed beyond their age and learned flirting from their family.
Monster kid says that all kids wear striped shirts which is why he, along with Asriel and Chara, wears a striped shirt. Frisk doesn't wear the same color shirt but is wearing a striped one so we can determine that Frisk is a kid. Also, Frisk not being interested in the toys could be because Chara, who is the narrator, doesn't want Frisk to mess with their old toys, so Chara states that Frisk isn't interested. Toriel calls you "my child" and Asgore calls you "young one" and they do know what a human child looks like since they raised Chara. These reasons can confirm that Frisk IS a child, despite some weird other stuff that happens in Undertale (like Papyrus dating you, for some reason).
In my story, I chose to make them 8, mainly due to how little they seem to talk. If they had a bit more of a "personality", then I probably would have interpreted them as slightly older. Of course, the point about the characters sometimes using more mature themes around them is valid, and I don't have a satisfactory explanation for that. Perhaps the characters simply misjudged Frisk. And if anything, flirting with everyone so much is what I personally would expect from a mid-teen rather than a tween. So... eh, who knows.
Frisk actually talks quite a lot in the game. It is just that they do not use the classic textbox format when they do unlike other characters.
They talk to monsters like Papyrus, Alphys or Undyne during the dating segments, they talk through the phone quite often, they also frequently choose to respond to characters on their own with no player input. When the latter happens, the characters usually paraphrase what Frisk has just said such as when Flowey says "Huh ? Why am i doing this ?" or Gerson says "Huh ? What if the child is a human... What ?" as ways to tell us that Frisk just asked these things to them.
Besides, lots of the ACTs in game involve Frisk talking one way or another anyway such as taunting Undyne or cheering up Napstablook.
@@underlore3774 Indeed so. However, they still have that silent/shy feel about them, even if they ultimately do speak a lot. Like I mentioned, it's mainly their lack of charisma that I think is indicative of this. If I were to compare it with some AUs, the Frisk from Inverted Fate is how I would imagine a tween talk and act.
@@Tsskyx frisk managed to talk their way out of dozens of battles of monsters who wanted to kill humans for their entire life with considerable ease, frisk don't lack charisma, they actually have an insane good charisma.
@@girosvaldodeskate2214 Considering the synergy between them and the player, it must have taken them several tries before they discovered what makes each monster tick - because I know I had to, I definitely didn't figure out each encounter on the first try. We can also speculate that, if the narrator talks more than just what we can see, they could have helped Frisk as well.
@@Tsskyx if the narrator is even a character, then that character probabilly is the kid the other dead kid so i don't know how much that would help, and like, mechanically you will like, talk 5 phrases and you should already spared the monster, its not like you die in every fight
* cries in 4'10" adult*
Imagine having the strongest monster, training for years, climb every mountain count grain of sand, then losing to this little kid
Regardless if the certain things Frisk is interested at or not, it can be just Toby having fun with certain interactions within the game. Or the multiple interests and dislikes of Frisk is mainly due to the fact that Frisk is still supposed to be you. Not knowing what you would like or dislike, the multiple things Frisk likes or not is flexible enough to fit with what you would like
Beforehand thought of Frisk to be about 9 years old.
Now I'm headcannoning Frisk's age to be 10!
This is so underrated
The editing is great and you keep the video intertaining for the whole time.
I headcannoned Frisk falling in their atleast pre teens, and mid teenage at oldest. Mainly cause puberty makes people more independent, how is Frisk being independent? Climbing a mountain!
That was a really nicely researched, edited and commentated video! ^^
Got sent here by Dorked and I'm glad that I did! Great video
Aside from the poor quality microphone, this was a really well made video. Looking forward to more
nice video!
I always headcannoned Frisk as being in their pre-teens, so this not only... basically confirms my headcannon, but is also a really well made video.
Really nice and well researched video, look forward to seeing what else you put out!
Frisk is just the quiet kid on a whole new level
ah, another UT/DR youtuber! subscribed!! very well researched and i loove the editing. your voice is also really nice. i look forward to more!
I was thinking about 10-12, so this lines up pretty well with it.
Yeah, I agree they would be 10 at least, and 13 at most.
I can personally see Frisk as anywhere from 8-13 years old, MAYBE 14 but I’d say that’s about the upper age limit for Frisk. IMO the above age range is the most realistic for Frisk.
Ok, I’m definitely liking and subbing. With all of your research you’ve definitely earned them
Frisk is a timeless child who loves flirt
I always assumed Frisk was the same age as Ness (12/13) since Undertale was heavily inspired by earthbound.
This is cool, I'm glad someone's finally addressing this. I've never actually minded people seeing frisks age as being really young, probably because I thought they were like 4 for a while and it makes a cute idea. Unfortunately people use this 'agelessness' to make gross fan art and ships. I can get wanting to ship characters and stuff, its cute and fun, but for gods sake frisk is a child
Frisk's age is ambiguous and undefined, but a definite general range is provided as they're consistently repeatedly called a kid. There's no way anyone could realistically construe that into "well actually they could be 25"
@@uncroppedsoop yes, finally someone agrees
I think most of those imply Frisk to be grown up after the evnts of the game.
Doesn't make it any less gross, however
@@Feu2032 Yeah, Sans is around 28 I believe. So, even if it implies that they waited until Frisk was at least 18, he would be between 40 and 47. Which is all kinds of messed up, especially if Sans knew Frisk before they were an adult.
Frisk is definitely not an teenager she is less then teen ager and the game makes Frisk's personality a pre teen and the monsters in the underground call frisk a child or kid for a reason frisk is at least 9 or 12
High-12
Low-9
Finally some new gas to the Undertale UA-cam Community! Really like the video and points you made in it. For me personally Frisk was always between 10-12(or 13). I have a suggestion on a video you could make if you are pretending to continue this series. It's something I thought a while ago regarding how much Flowey "lived", I tried posting It on Reddit but It didn't got much attention. If you're interrested just reply and I'll send you the original post I made.😄
Thank you but i have plenty of video topics in stock already. I will still read your post if you send it, though !
@@underlore3774 It's ok! Keep the good work man. If you someday happen to use my post to a video feel free to do so! But if you do so please mention me, It would make me very happy :). (Tried to send the link but Yt keeps deleting... search my nickname on Reddit. It's the same as here)
Honestly anytime I see a young character in a game who’s age isn’t told and I can tell they are more of a child age a common age range I’ve given them is like- 8-13. It’s allows for development in the brain to be noted and understood yet also allows for some personal interpretation.
4:53 I get it too. They used to absolutely TERRIFY me.
I like it , its intresting and different from all the other undertale videos floating around
Sympa comme vidéo ! C'est bien développé et bien réfléchi ! Merci pour tes recherches !
That's a very interesting theory. I now wonder how tall the rest of the characters are and how big the underground is.
Great video! Love all the research & well-used footage & infographics! Thanks for uploading!
Frisk’s proportions honestly make me think that frisk is 5 and I can’t shake that idea out of my head.
I personally agree with the idea that Frisk is in their pre-teens, since I always imagined them being 12-13 years old. But that was honestly a personal bias since I was 13 when I first played Undertale, soooooo
I always assumed it was around eight to ten years old but after watching this video, I feel like it’s fifteen now.
Frisk x Adult shippers HATE this one video!!
"as alphys is familiar with anime, she should have a fairly good idea"
like i havent seen many animes
but thats probably one of the most innacurate sources for human age you can find
Frisk age is just: "kid"
4:59 You gotta help me man! My pie is evil and it's gonna kill meeeeeeee!
Great video, was cool to watch even after seeing your blog about it
It makes me so happy to see stuff like this in 2022
I’m 18 and those jokes still make me laugh.
Finally, it's here! The video I've waiting for since I followed your tumblr account. I enjoyed your theories there and I'm exited for those to be made as videos! Take care your time making those videos.
Thank you very much ! Not all videos which i plan on posting here will be tumblr adaptations though. Some will be, but others will come out on UA-cam first.
Tumblr still exists?????
9:05 ... or floweys face just become bigger, he is something like amalgamates sooooo...
As they say:
We will watch your career with great interest.
Subscribed.
Frisk is in my head 9 at the absolute least and 15 at the absolute most. So something in the middle of that
Okay, I'm pretty new to the undertale fandom. Thank you for making a proper video about undertale in 2022, I only joined this fandom around June time. Also, I think frisk is around the age of 12, but the age guesses of others are from the age of 4-14. (I don't get it either lol)
Just a quick comment, I have this year seen a grown man playing in the leaves, so the leaves is an assumption that may be throwing off your guess.
The point with the leaves is based not on certainty but on likelihood. It is possible for a grown man to play with leaves just as well as it is possible for a child younger than 10 to lose all interest in toys. These are just rarer occurrences.
These details only take importance in comparison with each other. For instance, one of those two things is rarer before the age of 10 while the other gets rarer after early teens. Taken together, they make it appear that Frisk's relationship with playing specifically would be one which would fit a child between 10 and 14 the most. These points alone do not mean they have to be in that age range, they simply make it appear statistically a bit more likely for them to be.
And we are pretty sure that Chara was older. Very good video. I hope determinators comes back
frisk has always been somewhere near 11 to 12 to me honestly
This channel is absolutely underrated, you hope you can get more subscribes
At the end of the True Pacifist, right before the Asriel Dreemurr fight, when Undyne and Alphys kiss, Toriel says "Hey! Not in front of the Human!" So I always naturally assumed that he was a little kid.
*they were
the average is too big, frisk is 7000 years old, like alphys says.
Edit: The pie may be an exception, as it is one of the only disrepencies, meaning that frisk may have sensed the evil aura that the pie was holding and was thus intimidated. This would thus lower the age range.
so in theory frisk is in the age brackets of 10-13 years old
1:23 It's not impossible that it's chara who read things for frisk, i've seen a comicdub with that. That explain too how frisk can understand what the froggits say.
I hope a lot of ppl find this video and can do a double take on Frisk being a toddler
like, sorry but a toddler cannot possiblely do this whole adventure man + more characters would've stopped them from it
usually (in american and european culture iirc) around the pre-teen ages you're allowed to go off into your neighbour, not when you're a toddler, then even strangers stop and bring you to the police
(also with how Earthbound-influenced this game is I was expecting pre-teen or just 13 aswell)
And here I honestly thought they were 7.
But seriously, this video is really well made, is seriously underrated, and deserves a sub on it's own.
Congrats, here you go!
(I'm talking about a sub)
…I thought Frisk was like 4
Tbh I’m putting my bets on frisk being late 12.
Idk if it's just nostalgia but the name Underlore reminds me of underlab which brings back alot of memories GOD IM OLD
Fun fact:Frisk was Flirt Toriel when in the Ruin and we made Frisk do that so anything Frisk do in game under we control can't say anything
I always asumed Frisk was somewhere betwenn 13 (youngest) and 16, maybe 17 (oldest). With the adition of Kris in the spin off game, I mostly think Frisk wouldn't be older than 16.
The reason I mainly think so, is that most of the adults in game are unteliable narrators when it comes to Frisks age. Torial, Asgore and the turtle guy who's name I can't spell, in particular, becouse they are the oldest monsters around. And I mean "possibly old enough to have been part of the original war"-old. Old people sometimes see mid 20 year olds still as "kids" in real live. Can't imagine how far the "kid" spectrum goes for monsters that old xD
The "striped shirt" line is also unreliable, becouse Monster Kid just asumes everyone wearing a striped shirt is a kid, and even if that's a thing in monster culture, there is no proof that human culture in the game follows the same rule.
So yeah, I went mostly with Frisks behaviour to roughly judge their age, becouse I don't trust any of the monsters judgment xD
wdym “spinoff game”?
@@ahihi.14 Deltarun is basically an Undertale AU.
The shit ton of returning characters, MAJOR characters at that, as well as reocuring story aspects makes it more of a spin off than a completely independant game.
Hell "Deltarune" is not only just an anagram for "Untertale", the Deltarune symbol is also something first established in Undertale xD
The games are directly linkt to each other, without beeing directly part of each other. It's fascinating! :3
Frisk is definitely not an teenager you can tell the author definitely wanted frisk to be a child and not a teen because of the hight in the game.
Frisk is definitely a pre teen if not so then 9
@@ShabsUID Frisk is the same/almost the same hight as Alphies and Sans. So is the scientist dating a fish lady, and the skeleton running like 10 jobs at once, also only 9 or 10?
The hight of pixel sprites isn't really indicative of a characters actual hight, let alone their age.
What would help, would have been a picture with more realistic proportions. (The game "Ib" did something like that. On the map, the characters are all almost the same hight when it comes to their pixel sprites. But things like cut scenes (the mirror scene comes to mind) give us a realistic look at how big the characters are compared to each other. Undertale never gives us anything like that. Closest we get is the picture of the Dreemure family, and from that one we only learn that Chara and Asriel are roughly the same hight, and that they both might have been roughly the hight of Asgore and Toriels stomache. But since we don't know how big Asgore and Toriel are compared to grown humans, that isn't telling us much eather.)
or you can just like.. pay attention to toriel. i mean she literally calls frisk a "youth" in the start of a game - a youth is someone around the age of 9 - 12
I thought that frisk was probably around 12, but that makes me wonder how old Kris would be? They seem like they would be a bit older, maybe around 14. I mostly think Kris is older due to their height, which isn’t the most accurate way to determine age, but there’s also they way they act, as they seem a bit more mature.
I hope you make more videos like this, they way explained everything made it easy to follow, which can be difficult sometimes, especially when talking about undertale.
I’ve always assumed that Kris is 15-17
@@Mysinginghuman that could also be accurate. It’s pretty hard to tell, but I think if we find out what kind of work they do in class in later chapters , we could have a better guess as to what Kris’s age is, along with their classmates
Oh, idea!
Frisk is as old, as is necessary to play a video game!
"Sans I'm 38 years old."
"Jesus."
During the events of undertale, i was 12. Glad i could help solve a big mystery.
When I first played the game I assumed that Frisk was 12. So I think we can agree. Well done!
This video is an absolute banger. If this doesn't get picked up and skyrockets you to the moon then they youtube algorithim is more cruel and unusual then we thought
I think frisk is definely 12
if i were a game dev, i would definitely comment on peoples theory’s saying “well, your right.”, “OK you may or may not be right.”, “Bozo take.”
i always just assumed:
frisk:11
sans:25-30
toriel:50-60
papyrus:15-17
undyne:30
alphys:25-30
asgore:60
etc...
in my opinion,undyne is a bit younger,even younger than sans
but pretty accurate ^^
Toriel and Asgore are probably a few hundred years old if not more.
@@lagablebot6880 a lot more
Gaster: 99999999999999999
@@hackidreemurr gaster: no
This is so well made you deserve more subs
Subscribed! I hope to see your channel grow! :)
Well researched, well-written. The only thing I can give you as constructive criticism is the microphone quality. I don't think it's really bad at all, but that is the first thing that most people notice about a youtube video after the thumbnail and title. On youtube this can cause a snow-ball effect where a few people click off because they assume the content won't be of good quality, which in turn causes the algorithm to recommend it less. This can easily kill or sabotage smaller channels. (At least that's how it worked a few months ago. I think it makes sense, unfortunately.)
Top-notch quality content, though!
Thank you. And yes, i am aware and i do plan on getting better audio quality in the future.
Man really solved the question the creator couldn't
My personal headcanon is that if Frisk isn't a child, then they're a grown-up with dwarfism. lol