I love this. Real cars racing for real. My mate was a Charger bloke. When people said the Charger handling was crap, he said "nah. Just stick a couple of bags of cement in the boot".
Hi Rick just saw this video In 1987 I purchased an original E49 charger in vitamin c for $2,500 from a mate that needed cash to pay fines The car was purchased with around 8k on the clock and was in pristine condition I made a decision to store that car and a white HK Monaro 307ci 2 speed auto that I purchased that year too for 3k Both cars haven’t seen daylight for 33 years but I’m am going to see what the Monaro will get with only 12k on the clock Wish me luck
@MrFrog265 You're talking about the factory race car, the production car is much slower than that. The e49 holds the title of the fastest Australian production car, and held it for 27 yrs. It would complete the quarter mile at 102 mph, indicative of a vehicle that could complete the quarter at 13.7, but the tyres of the day were crap. There endeth the lesson.
Sorry, you're wrong! The E49 was the QUICKEST Australian production car but the XY GT HO was the FASTEST (top end) 4 door production car in the world at the time
It's a miracle the chargers where even raced.. the bean counters at chrysler didn't want to fork out the extra dollar's for better brakes and a 4 speed gearbox. Just because of some stupid policy about using locally made parts...the 3 speed e38 chargers where severely restricted especially at Bathurst
@brewil The Charger pushed the other two all the way, the other two ruined their tyres, the Charger's tyres were in great order. A factory car racing against two heavily modified vehicles. Anyway, makes for good viewing.
Series Production were supposedly standard 'off the showroom floor'. The reality was the race motors were fully stripped and blueprinted and the minimum production runs (then 500) had a number of enhancements. But tyres? They were made to order for the factories but were standard road tyres
You mean the E49 was the "fastest accelerating production car". The GTHO Phase 3 was referred to as the "world's fastest production 4-door sedan". The lesson never ends, I'm afraid.
what came out the factory and what was on the race track were different vehicles. a lot of modifications and under the table funding happened back then. brock getting special cranks and flywheels just for his race car that were not in your production xu1's etc. competition is never really fair. look at todays sports with all the people they are catching out on roids etc.
@laurence265 The only serious modifications that ALL THE CARS were allowed in that category, was a bluprinted engine and a chopped exhaust (on all tracks after 71) after the second flange. The standard LJ XU1 was actually on par with the E38 and Phase 3 in acceleration, the 0-400m times in the high 14sec mark. And when the Bathurst Version XU1 came out later that year, it had about 20hp more, and went even faster again recording a 14 flat for the quarter. Faster than the E49 and Phase 3.
@chargerrte49 Charger is a pretty good handling car for the period, a lot of propaganda was spread back in the day, hence the bad handling tag. But when someone drives one, they're shocked at how good they are, as long as they drive a good example, not their uncles midget next door neighbours car, a decrepit piece of rubbish at which all others of that make are tarred with the same brush.
They have no idea, if you read car mags ( I have tons of them) from the era such as Sports Car World or Wheels written when the car's were new, it's a different story.
I did say, "was referred to", not "was". That's my out, and I'm sticking to it. Wouldn't happen to have the relevant quarter mile and 0-60mph times handy, would you? Most of the faster cars in Europe were 2-doors, anyway.
Chrysler could have got a 4 speed box from the states but they wanted as much Australian content as possible for the car Borg Warner were late with the 4speed so Chrysler had to wait till 72
whos he fooling its a big disadvantage with only 3 gears ..regardless of 1st being a tall gear .really the second gear in the 3speed is way to tall..a 4speed and taller diff gears would of been the go..
The GTHO was getting its ass kicked on the street by a little car manufacturer called Mercedes Benz. As for it being the worlds fastest, that is only said in Australia, don't go to europe and say that, they'll laugh. The 49 was the fastest acceleratiing car, and it was fastest over the quarter mile. I've owned HO's, world's fastest, I think not.
He was trying to say without the need to keep changing gear he could just keep his foot down whilst everyone else might have to change at least 3 times
@@bonkeydollocks1879 well...the commentator said the charger would do about 60 in first. If everyone else had to change gear at least 3 times to get to 60 (mph) they must have been in minis, morris minors, or VW bugs!
the 'fx' was called the 'Holden' that's all...your example 48-215 is simply the year of manufacture-1948-plus the body style/model-215-(standard sedan)...i.e. a 1950 ute was called 50-2106...you say 'briefly'..yes, a 48 is only called a 48 during 48, after that it's called a 49. but it was never nick-named the 'fx' until 1953, which is 5 years later, as a reference to the new suspension. it was never marketed as an 'fx', it was called 'holden', so get that up ya smartarse.
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I love this. Real cars racing for real. My mate was a Charger bloke. When people said the Charger handling was crap, he said "nah. Just stick a couple of bags of cement in the boot".
Those Chargers really were beautiful looking machines. Oh to have one sitting in the garage.
Hi Rick just saw this video
In 1987 I purchased an original E49 charger in vitamin c for $2,500 from a mate that needed cash to pay fines
The car was purchased with around 8k on the clock and was in pristine condition
I made a decision to store that car and a white HK Monaro 307ci 2 speed auto that I purchased that year too for 3k
Both cars haven’t seen daylight for 33 years but I’m am going to see what the Monaro will get with only 12k on the clock
Wish me luck
Great to watch. All great cars of their era.
LOVE the chargers Chivas really driving the wheels off it here!!
this is awsome it relly was race on sunday sell on monday
Hey Charger. What a car.
Can you imagine what that start sounded like!!!!!!
Back in 70s my 265 sportsman had a 4 speed box. It was no slouch.
@MrFrog265
You're talking about the factory race car, the production car is much slower than that. The e49 holds the title of the fastest Australian production car, and held it for 27 yrs. It would complete the quarter mile at 102 mph, indicative of a vehicle that could complete the quarter at 13.7, but the tyres of the day were crap.
There endeth the lesson.
Sorry, you're wrong! The E49 was the QUICKEST Australian production car but the XY GT HO was the FASTEST (top end) 4 door production car in the world at the time
Awsome bit of Aussie motor racing !!!
It's a miracle the chargers where even raced.. the bean counters at chrysler didn't want to fork out the extra dollar's for better brakes and a 4 speed gearbox. Just because of some stupid policy about using locally made parts...the 3 speed e38 chargers where severely restricted especially at Bathurst
Wish they still raced at The Farm.
We used to make those, you know!
@brewil
The Charger pushed the other two all the way, the other two ruined their tyres, the Charger's tyres were in great order. A factory car racing against two heavily modified vehicles. Anyway, makes for good viewing.
You need to watch all 3
Series Production were supposedly standard 'off the showroom floor'. The reality was the race motors were fully stripped and blueprinted and the minimum production runs (then 500) had a number of enhancements. But tyres? They were made to order for the factories but were standard road tyres
Ok but were street legal ?
@laurence265 Could be the larger cars trying to limit wheelspin at the start, or possibly bogging down?
You mean the E49 was the "fastest accelerating production car". The GTHO Phase 3 was referred to as the "world's fastest production 4-door sedan".
The lesson never ends, I'm afraid.
True - ignorance abounds
GREAT STUFF!!!!!
Glory days!,, Long now gone.
what came out the factory and what was on the race track were different vehicles. a lot of modifications and under the table funding happened back then. brock getting special cranks and flywheels just for his race car that were not in your production xu1's etc. competition is never really fair. look at todays sports with all the people they are catching out on roids etc.
Thanks for for that mate...cheers :)
So, no color tv in 1970s? I am just an old kid from 1980s. Interesting. I just had to go through my old memories.
@laurence265 The only serious modifications that ALL THE CARS were allowed in that category, was a bluprinted engine and a chopped exhaust (on all tracks after 71) after the second flange. The standard LJ XU1 was actually on par with the E38 and Phase 3 in acceleration, the 0-400m times in the high 14sec mark.
And when the Bathurst Version XU1 came out later that year, it had about 20hp more, and went even faster again recording a 14 flat for the quarter. Faster than the E49 and Phase 3.
stop arguing! its my fly on the wall!
JUST ENJOY THE VIDEO!!!
Great video. A time where motor racing in Aus was 3 gears? 4 gears? V8, Slant 6. 6 Cyl straight? Whatever! No rotary's??
The E38 charger 6 cylinder 3 speed 14 second quarter mile XY GTHO PHASE 3 V8 FOUR SPEED 14 second quarter mile
@H HOUR HOTEL WTF we know that but i bet ya the rest of the world don't. Don't you get enough sex?
@chargerrte49
Charger is a pretty good handling car for the period, a lot of propaganda was spread back in the day, hence the bad handling tag. But when someone drives one, they're shocked at how good they are, as long as they drive a good example, not their uncles midget next door neighbours car, a decrepit piece of rubbish at which all others of that make are tarred with the same brush.
Well said, so true.
3 speed box would have been a bit annoying?
@@nickraschke4737 it's was basically a 4 speed without first gear
Your right When set up properly they were a great handling car I know I owned a few of them
They have no idea, if you read car mags ( I have tons of them) from the era such as Sports Car World or Wheels written when the car's were new, it's a different story.
I did say, "was referred to", not "was". That's my out, and I'm sticking to it. Wouldn't happen to have the relevant quarter mile and 0-60mph times handy, would you?
Most of the faster cars in Europe were 2-doors, anyway.
The commentator was just repeating Chrysler's excuse for not fitting a 4-speed box to the E38.
Chrysler could have got a 4 speed box from the states but they wanted as much Australian content as possible for the car Borg Warner were late with the 4speed so Chrysler had to wait till 72
Charger best of era
Torana ace up sleeve %%%%%braking 😂
Ford forgot to put enough brakes and tyres on the GTHO ph3.
Did they race slicks back then or conventional ?.....just the way they throw their cars into corners...''awesome''...
It’s a pity they bought in the super car laws , if Chrysler had been able to go ahead with the E55 V8 charger they would have had a Bathurst win in 73
whos he fooling its a big disadvantage with only 3 gears ..regardless of 1st being a tall gear .really the second gear in the 3speed is way to tall..a 4speed and taller diff gears would of been the go..
The GTHO was getting its ass kicked on the street by a little car manufacturer called Mercedes Benz. As for it being the worlds fastest, that is only said in Australia, don't go to europe and say that, they'll laugh.
The 49 was the fastest acceleratiing car, and it was fastest over the quarter mile. I've owned HO's, world's fastest, I think not.
You mean the XU-1 V8 - XU-2 was as much a misnomer as the FX model.
no you're not...yes i did...you're welcome.
...doubt it...
A bit strange he said the tall first gear gave a greater chance of faster acceleration lmao.., just shows the commentator didnt know jack shit hahaha
He was trying to say without the need to keep changing gear he could just keep his foot down whilst everyone else might have to change at least 3 times
@@bonkeydollocks1879 well...the commentator said the charger would do about 60 in first. If everyone else had to change gear at least 3 times to get to 60 (mph) they must have been in minis, morris minors, or VW bugs!
@@annpeerkat2020 yes those bl**dy pesky minis..
You're repeating what I said in regard acceleration, parrot anyone ??
actually mate, it shows how little you understand.
Go the XU1
the 'fx' was called the 'Holden' that's all...your example 48-215 is simply the year of manufacture-1948-plus the body style/model-215-(standard sedan)...i.e. a 1950 ute was called 50-2106...you say 'briefly'..yes, a 48 is only called a 48 during 48, after that it's called a 49. but it was never nick-named the 'fx' until 1953, which is 5 years later, as a reference to the new suspension. it was never marketed as an 'fx', it was called 'holden', so get that up ya smartarse.
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