IF you are struggling getting your full bloom in time wise with MS lunar eclipse, then do Vacuum wave > FB > Lunar eclipse > Magnifying 7:09 shows how it should proc 3 times
Can you do a video of Workshop of Brilliant light- Vulcan all 3 modes. your last video is 4 months old and lot of things have been added. I started this month and struggling there
Yeah you should have your full bloom before even doing the MS and the three slashes so that all three slashes are buffed by lunar eclipse before it falls off. Vacuum > Full bloom > Dash > Moon shadow > Dash > 3 slashes
Thanks Payne I was looking for this specific content.. up until recently I wasn't using MS and have now switched to plum+ms. This video was much needed for me!
i got the legendary version of crushing blow for dark that requires the counter attack and it does insane damage/break damage as well. Feel it's a worthy mention
@@acpolinga2419 yeah it broke him in like 2 counters and the attack value on legendary is 5,222%. i can mess it up and slap someone with the mini bubble for like 2 mil lmao
Hi Uncle Payne! I think a better video that would help visual learners like me is if you used your P2W on Baran Hard Mode since you cant do it on F2P yet and show the sequence and application of the Hunters buffs and who to prioritize or Floor 52 is a great test dummy as well For Example the setup I use that works for me Start Full Bloom Dash to get between striking distance with Baran Await Barans Beam to Dodge Armor Break to apply damage increase and break damage right off the bat Shadow Step at the same time use Min to come out and apply damage taken increase and summon shadows while you are at it then Lunar Eclipse at the same use Cha to apply critical hit damage taken increase and crit rate increase Dash + Tap 3 times for Magnifying slashes at the same time use Harper to add break damage and stun him enough for the next Full Bloom Cycle to recharge Rinse this setup and repeat used both Heroic Mag Slash and Armor Break and defeated him pre-nerf If there is anything i can do to improve this I would be glad to be educated
that sounds like a solid combo there! but that kinda only works on baran's hyperbeam he still has a lot of quick atk moves but if you stun a lot might still push all that combo in baran's other atk patterns.
Hey Payne im not being rude....but u can only do buest damage only for 3sec wirh no of moon count seen on first moon... If its 3(max) qnd u ms skill , with thir approach u can see after full bloom the #2moon symbol; the actual dps buffer (15-45%) goes away , to get max dos output just ms...dash...mag click 3 times.. Correct me if im wrong, thats how i use this skill and getting almost 40bar with rate rune
Heya yup I pinned a comment to the other method. I like this one cause I just dash out of full bloom on time but it's a timing thing i practiced for a while. U can do FB first, then Lunar from MS, then dash into magnifying
@@PayneBladeits not possible to do FB and Magnifying slashes in the 3 secs of MS debuff, even you in hard mode esil fight weren't able to time it in multiple attempts, not even once, also for maximum damage of magnifying slashes 2 dashes are required like, Dash >magni >magni >dash > magni ideally, so by doing FB after MS, not only the last slash doesn't hit during the debuff you're also not able to do magnifying slash with 2 dashes. Missing out on alot of dmg
@PayneBlade I think it's works only in pc.... When I tried in my phone after ms and doing full bloom witha dash for extra speed..... That 3 sec ms buff we're timed out when I pressed mag .,..
Isn’t it better to use plum after vacuum wave and after that moonshadow and then magnifying slashes and you are doing fast enough you can actually land an ultimate into eclipse buff. Also when you use plum sword after moonshadow the effect of eclipse disappear by the moment when you land last slash or even 2 slashes
Is A9 scythe + A5 MS good enough or should i go for plum? (Dont hv a single copy yet)..I mean the scythe does hv a lot of dmg its just that MS buff lasts for only 3s while scythe skill takes up to 5s for max dmg
The 2nd strongest skill is electricshock. I heard it ignores break gauge. The way you showed it, using full bloom when lunar eclipse is active is too risky. You will take lunar eclipse away from the last hit of magnifying slashes. Also, if you dash before the last slash of magnifying slashes, you can do more crit dmg cause of plum. The last hit doesn't need to get hit sequentially cause first two slashes already stacked Magnifying Slashes dmg.
@@PayneBlade I don't dash for plum skill. I use dash for the last slash of magnifying slashes. I think that's worth for more dmg. Plum skill doesn't do that much dmg.
actually the part that you have to do the slashes consecutively for max damage is wrong. every slash is a separate attack therefor the "amplifying draw" buff (plum sword, +32% of crit rate, crit dmg and flat dmg), whether you dash (in higher advancements) or use the weapon's skill, is in fact removed and does not count for the next slash. try using magnifying slashes against the bear (25th floor) consecutively and with a dash between each slash and u will see the difference. plus, the bonus dmg for magnifying slashes is granted either by a dash&use or by using the skill consecutively, therefor you get the full increase as well by dashing between every slash.
heya the buff seemed to have applied for me using the skill alone, the dashes in between was just amplifying draw that seems to add more dmg to it due to the crits. I'll double check again
@@PayneBlade maybe so but the damage speaks for itself. I tired using magnifying slashes in sequence and left the boss with 33% on the best result and with dashes between each slash i left him with 15-20%. to be clear i used ONLY magnifying slashes not even shadow step. also, if you insist on the full bloom effect you might wanna do it first because its 8 seconds and the lunar eclipse and amplifying draw are only 5 seconds (and thats only if ur a3 and above before its 3 seconds for lunar) and it makes it extremely tight margin to do the full sequence while the lunar eclipse is on so you might miss the timing more often than not. Either way, Im just trying to help the community if i can so dont take it the wrong way hehe. YOURE STILL AND ALWAYS THE BEST PAYNE. keep up the amazing work we love ya
@@PayneBlade well yea thats the obvious one big drawback your dashes are INCINERATED so quick haha. if you dont use dash oriented blessings the timing must be absolutely perfect.
This is how I do it as well. full bloom, moonshadow, dash for plum buff, mag slash 1, dash for plum buff, mag slash 2, dash for plum buff, mag slash 3. I've tried it without the dashing and the damage is very much noticeable.
Thankyou for that. I will now add MS in my rateup list instead of plum(A8). Also could please show your artifacts or the choices you made to get your SJW attack to fricking 38k.
Hello Payne need your suggestion..I don't have harper as f2p and I go for Charlotte at a3 after your suggestion now I am confuse about isla should I go for her or not?I want my Thomas at a5 and I have save about 402 summons what should I do man..
i use A4 plum + A1 demon dagers never used moonshadows (though i got it 2weeks ago) still not gonna swap out w/ my dkd unless mode has less dmge for wind :)
Meh I use da ice chick and fire girl to pause my opponents so I can execute skills that take longer and use da guy whose head of da lions guild or sum , da dude wit da long black gloves cuz he causes break pretty fast wit plumb sword n da purple sythe and I gotta say that new skill wit da daggers is litttt and uhhhh any other High break skill and yeah I'm pretty op , but making your opponent not move is pretty great !!
@LATOYAGaming128 its a privilage to be me! Trust me. But about 10$ a month, since our country is blocked, i cant pay. Why spending money on hobby would be a dark side though? I feel i am missing the point because of translating comments 1 to 1
Bro i just got legendary magnifying slash & A5 ms and i literally use it in everything except type disadvantage All other weapon became kinda redundant
Kindly someone help me, i don't know why but my total power is too much less than I think should be. My sun jin woo's total power is 22400, I use A3 plum and A4 shadow scythe, have full curse max legend set artifacts, armory has five weapon slot with atleast 3+ grade, al gems slot is atleast filled with rank three gems and higher, don't have any legendary blessing stone and have 2 heroic lvl 10 cores. As for my top three hunters,they are A7 Alicia, A5 Gunhee and A3 Mirei with on average 200k power each having full legend grade burning sets, dual heroic cores(as still baran normal not cleared), and at least A5 respective weapons. Shadow armies power is 68k. But my all over power is 735k. Why is that, can someone point out my mistakes?
You also didn't proc the magnifying slashes bonus at all in your first clip, you need to see the +140 mp 3 times, each one is the indicator that it proc'd the bonus damage. In the first example you showed you only proc'd it once.
how come the skill with 600-700% is better those skills with 3k+ dmg attack? is the description inaccurate? it is 600 per slash and there are multiple slashes? :?
Big issue w teh game currently, feels so useless to go for any other weapon/skill, moonshadow/plum/magnifying works the best literally in every single scenario except when the enemy has dark resistance which is like nowhere, what do we do with all our other weapons, their only use comes in at battlefield of time, everywhere else you just go same combo
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IF you are struggling getting your full bloom in time wise with MS lunar eclipse, then do Vacuum wave > FB > Lunar eclipse > Magnifying
7:09 shows how it should proc 3 times
Can you do a video of Workshop of Brilliant light- Vulcan all 3 modes. your last video is 4 months old and lot of things have been added. I started this month and struggling there
Does that decrease the damage dealt? Not sure if it better to amplify ms using fb first or amplify plum using ms first
Yeah you should have your full bloom before even doing the MS and the three slashes so that all three slashes are buffed by lunar eclipse before it falls off.
Vacuum > Full bloom > Dash > Moon shadow > Dash > 3 slashes
You can also dash at the last atk of sonic dark to get a boost of damage
Thanks Payne I was looking for this specific content.. up until recently I wasn't using MS and have now switched to plum+ms. This video was much needed for me!
Glad I could help
That's a video I needed since launch, please don't hesitate to make more like this (with other weapons combo that would be very usefull)
lol. My dumbass kept dashing between each cast of magnifying and being confused why it doesn’t hit as hard 😂
I thought that too, the description is really unclear
I think we all do that. Timing our dodges to always stay behind the target.
Same lmao
Ya... it makes it sound like dashing after using it, gives the buff....
@salvadormontgomery1819 summoning or events
Thanks man, always droping a video exactly when i need it ❤️❤️
I got u bro
I was doing rotation wrong all the time. Thanks for the vid.
Thank you! I was messing up the rotation.
Watching rn and im more impressed by how much Payne saved after mirei pursuit than by the lecture 😂😂😂
i got the legendary version of crushing blow for dark that requires the counter attack and it does insane damage/break damage as well. Feel it's a worthy mention
Its great during the hobgoblin in battlefield of time
@@acpolinga2419 yeah it broke him in like 2 counters and the attack value on legendary is 5,222%. i can mess it up and slap someone with the mini bubble for like 2 mil lmao
@Johnny2Badd Its literally one of the skills that have the highest percentages(in general)
Much needed video, thanks payne👍
This combo is literally how I beat all the content in the game lmao (except hard baron that ain’t being completed by a f2p for now)
Can you do a video of how/when should we use the ult. To make more dmg.
Hi Uncle Payne! I think a better video that would help visual learners like me is if you used your P2W on Baran Hard Mode since you cant do it on F2P yet and show the sequence and application of the Hunters buffs and who to prioritize or Floor 52 is a great test dummy as well
For Example
the setup I use that works for me
Start Full Bloom
Dash to get between striking distance with Baran
Await Barans Beam to Dodge
Armor Break to apply damage increase and break damage right off the bat
Shadow Step at the same time use Min to come out and apply damage taken increase and summon shadows while you are at it then
Lunar Eclipse at the same use Cha to apply critical hit damage taken increase and crit rate increase
Dash + Tap 3 times for Magnifying slashes at the same time use Harper to add break damage and stun him enough for the next Full Bloom Cycle to recharge
Rinse this setup and repeat
used both Heroic Mag Slash and Armor Break and defeated him pre-nerf
If there is anything i can do to improve this I would be glad to be educated
that sounds like a solid combo there! but that kinda only works on baran's hyperbeam he still has a lot of quick atk moves but if you stun a lot might still push all that combo in baran's other atk patterns.
Thanks Payne. Do you think plum and moonshadow will out damage Zeke and moonshadow with same skills?
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Hey Payne im not being rude....but u can only do buest damage only for 3sec wirh no of moon count seen on first moon... If its 3(max) qnd u ms skill , with thir approach u can see after full bloom the #2moon symbol; the actual dps buffer (15-45%) goes away , to get max dos output just ms...dash...mag click 3 times..
Correct me if im wrong, thats how i use this skill and getting almost 40bar with rate rune
Heya yup I pinned a comment to the other method. I like this one cause I just dash out of full bloom on time but it's a timing thing i practiced for a while. U can do FB first, then Lunar from MS, then dash into magnifying
@@PayneBladeits not possible to do FB and Magnifying slashes in the 3 secs of MS debuff, even you in hard mode esil fight weren't able to time it in multiple attempts, not even once, also for maximum damage of magnifying slashes 2 dashes are required like, Dash >magni >magni >dash > magni ideally, so by doing FB after MS, not only the last slash doesn't hit during the debuff you're also not able to do magnifying slash with 2 dashes. Missing out on alot of dmg
Also shave eyebrows when
@PayneBlade I think it's works only in pc.... When I tried in my phone after ms and doing full bloom witha dash for extra speed..... That 3 sec ms buff we're timed out when I pressed mag .,..
@@Daddy_chill123 doesn't work. Its not possible, just watch his hard esil fight, Ms debuff is gone before magnifying slashes is complete
Yo bro may i ask what build ur wearing
just noticed payne still at A3 grandad n me at A6 not even sweating getting him lol! Day 86 F2P Warriors! ROAR!
What if u do plum than moon shadow than magnifying slashes is it the same think or no
yessir! works that way too. i put a comment and pinned it
Sorry I didn't see it thank u brother❤
Isn’t it better to use plum after vacuum wave and after that moonshadow and then magnifying slashes and you are doing fast enough you can actually land an ultimate into eclipse buff. Also when you use plum sword after moonshadow the effect of eclipse disappear by the moment when you land last slash or even 2 slashes
yes u can do that way too! I dash out of full bloom very quickly so I catch it all but the other way will work
as a casual, I approve of this content :O
I’ll take that shoutout.
Heroic dark sonic stream or Legendary light sonic stream? Who deal more damage?
dark may still do more but in light days legendary will kill it
Can you give any alternative for plum because my plum is a0 but my all other weapons are good
Grimoire is great for erosion amplifying all DMG done by elements by 24%
❤let's go need this too
Is A9 scythe + A5 MS good enough or should i go for plum? (Dont hv a single copy yet)..I mean the scythe does hv a lot of dmg its just that MS buff lasts for only 3s while scythe skill takes up to 5s for max dmg
Plum is a buffer weapon while Scythe is a dmg dealer.
Hey payne ive got mag slashes, dispersion and vac wave heroic. Should i go for electric shock from the chest since i dont have it?
I just got a5 both being f2p and they very good
The 2nd strongest skill is electricshock. I heard it ignores break gauge. The way you showed it, using full bloom when lunar eclipse is active is too risky. You will take lunar eclipse away from the last hit of magnifying slashes. Also, if you dash before the last slash of magnifying slashes, you can do more crit dmg cause of plum. The last hit doesn't need to get hit sequentially cause first two slashes already stacked Magnifying Slashes dmg.
Or you can pre-use the Plum Active and then do SS/MS combo?
@@_ABeastOfPrey_ Yeah.
issue is with dashing too often is losing ur dashes in situations that can 1 shot u especially in hard mode wobl so I try to preserve those
yep!
@@PayneBlade I don't dash for plum skill. I use dash for the last slash of magnifying slashes. I think that's worth for more dmg. Plum skill doesn't do that much dmg.
actually the part that you have to do the slashes consecutively for max damage is wrong. every slash is a separate attack therefor the "amplifying draw" buff (plum sword, +32% of crit rate, crit dmg and flat dmg), whether you dash (in higher advancements) or use the weapon's skill, is in fact removed and does not count for the next slash. try using magnifying slashes against the bear (25th floor) consecutively and with a dash between each slash and u will see the difference. plus, the bonus dmg for magnifying slashes is granted either by a dash&use or by using the skill consecutively, therefor you get the full increase as well by dashing between every slash.
heya the buff seemed to have applied for me using the skill alone, the dashes in between was just amplifying draw that seems to add more dmg to it due to the crits. I'll double check again
@@PayneBlade maybe so but the damage speaks for itself. I tired using magnifying slashes in sequence and left the boss with 33% on the best result and with dashes between each slash i left him with 15-20%. to be clear i used ONLY magnifying slashes not even shadow step. also, if you insist on the full bloom effect you might wanna do it first because its 8 seconds and the lunar eclipse and amplifying draw are only 5 seconds (and thats only if ur a3 and above before its 3 seconds for lunar) and it makes it extremely tight margin to do the full sequence while the lunar eclipse is on so you might miss the timing more often than not.
Either way, Im just trying to help the community if i can so dont take it the wrong way hehe. YOURE STILL AND ALWAYS THE BEST PAYNE. keep up the amazing work we love ya
@Well0fC0urs3 appreciate it bro. I think I hesitate with all the dashes due to survival lol. Hard mode will kick my ass if I dash between them haha
@@PayneBlade well yea thats the obvious one big drawback your dashes are INCINERATED so quick haha. if you dont use dash oriented blessings the timing must be absolutely perfect.
This is how I do it as well. full bloom, moonshadow, dash for plum buff, mag slash 1, dash for plum buff, mag slash 2, dash for plum buff, mag slash 3.
I've tried it without the dashing and the damage is very much noticeable.
Thankyou for that. I will now add MS in my rateup list instead of plum(A8). Also could please show your artifacts or the choices you made to get your SJW attack to fricking 38k.
I play on the phone but don’t really do much outside of trying to dash at the right time. Is it worth using Vacuum Wave?
how to use plus to maximise damage on ultimate skill?
i use shadow step in to plus in to dash then ulti but not always worka
If i use the full bloom do i need to dash again or the buff for magnifying slash is already applied so i can just use it?
Hello Payne need your suggestion..I don't have harper as f2p and I go for Charlotte at a3 after your suggestion now I am confuse about isla should I go for her or not?I want my Thomas at a5 and I have save about 402 summons what should I do man..
i would save for Thomas tbh
@@PayneBlade appreciate my brother txx for your suggestion..
Hey payne, do we need all A5 for moonshadow for it to work?. What is bare minimum needed
A1 bare minimum
@PayneBlade thank you very much. I had an A1 and I thought it useless. Got to build it up
I don't have moonshadow daggers
But I have plum to A5 and the other skills at heroic
Would DKD be better than moonshadow for this setup? I don't have dupes in either one.
Nah cause moon dagger increase dark DMG and the rune is dark
payne can you plaese do a bleesings tier list
how about DK daggers + zeke ?
very nice
A3 DKD or A3 MS?
Hell yeah
So what do you do if you get DKD? Which weapon do you swap out?
i use A4 plum + A1 demon dagers never used moonshadows (though i got it 2weeks ago) still not gonna swap out w/ my dkd unless mode has less dmge for wind :)
Will it be beneficial against bosses that have 50% immunity against dark damage
it's about the only time u will see a drop but still does crazy good dmg
hey payne try Pusnishing gray raven game too👀
I have and used to cover it bro
Yoo payne✌
Magnifying Slash has a bug on Mobile or something? I noticed sometimes I don't get the same amount of damage?
Does it work even with DKD ?
Meh I use da ice chick and fire girl to pause my opponents so I can execute skills that take longer and use da guy whose head of da lions guild or sum , da dude wit da long black gloves cuz he causes break pretty fast wit plumb sword n da purple sythe and I gotta say that new skill wit da daggers is litttt and uhhhh any other High break skill and yeah I'm pretty op , but making your opponent not move is pretty great !!
yup i don't even use my moonshadow though only A0 atm :) plum A4+ demon dagers A1 for stun is fine for me long term :)
Since magnifying slashes activates full bloom, can I do dat b4 full bloom
yep!
Hey Payne I am level 92 and I have around 24k atk for SJW but yours have 34k. Do you have any advice for that?
Better Artefacts.
I dont have any of this weapons.
Nice
sucks to be you :) you can always choose the dark side n pay the 10$ to choose 2ssr a month draw :)
@LATOYAGaming128 its a privilage to be me! Trust me.
But about 10$ a month, since our country is blocked, i cant pay.
Why spending money on hobby would be a dark side though?
I feel i am missing the point because of translating comments 1 to 1
@@shahmeyr-farsi it's from the movie star wars basically that the jedi from light turned dark! that's my perception from F2P to P2W :)
@@LATOYAGaming128 oh i see.
I get it now. Thanks for teaching about refrence.
@@shahmeyr-farsi no prob!
Bro i just got legendary magnifying slash & A5 ms and i literally use it in everything except type disadvantage
All other weapon became kinda redundant
I have legendary Electric shock
I have all legendary runes for sonic stream except MAGNIFYING SLASH HOW???
Kindly someone help me, i don't know why but my total power is too much less than I think should be. My sun jin woo's total power is 22400, I use A3 plum and A4 shadow scythe, have full curse max legend set artifacts, armory has five weapon slot with atleast 3+ grade, al gems slot is atleast filled with rank three gems and higher, don't have any legendary blessing stone and have 2 heroic lvl 10 cores. As for my top three hunters,they are A7 Alicia, A5 Gunhee and A3 Mirei with on average 200k power each having full legend grade burning sets, dual heroic cores(as still baran normal not cleared), and at least A5 respective weapons. Shadow armies power is 68k. But my all over power is 735k. Why is that, can someone point out my mistakes?
Hunters only give you 66% power
I still dont have plum 😂 but got a3 ms n girmore
how did you get 34k atk on sjw?
Artifacts
Weapon dups
Gems
and cores
39k attck
49 crit rate, 201 cirt damage
You also didn't proc the magnifying slashes bonus at all in your first clip, you need to see the +140 mp 3 times, each one is the indicator that it proc'd the bonus damage. In the first example you showed you only proc'd it once.
I do it a few times in the video. Some showing how not to and others the right way. 2nd time it shows 3 mp procs numerous times
how come the skill with 600-700% is better those skills with 3k+ dmg attack? is the description inaccurate? it is 600 per slash and there are multiple slashes? :?
Yes it is
I got a4 moon and a5 plum
The ultimate combo to make choi crit??
Legit like slashes gives u mp upon using, they are broken as hell
Hold up..im new here,let me use ur build😅
Big issue w teh game currently, feels so useless to go for any other weapon/skill, moonshadow/plum/magnifying works the best literally in every single scenario except when the enemy has dark resistance which is like nowhere, what do we do with all our other weapons, their only use comes in at battlefield of time, everywhere else you just go same combo
iam waiting you to claim silver plaques from youtube ❤❤❤
Yea I thought you had to dash every time you used it.
Sup❤
I use auto battle 😅lol
Understandable about the damage but to much work for an f2p who just logs in for dailys hahaha 😂😂
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Note: To confusing still love the tutorial ❤
I was wondering why my legendary magnifying slashes didn't do as much as people always sau 🫠🫠🫠. Thought i had to dash between each one.
unfortunately, before one hour i got sonic stream legendary but it wasn't magnifying slashes it was wind shroud 🥲