These movies expose what social conditions were like, back in earlier times. Those times were nothing to be proud of, but they did exist and in the manner shown by the movies. If we get rid of these movies, generations from now will claim those conditions never existed. Don't erase history - use it to build on and to never repeat.
It's also erasing all black actors of that time which was a milestone that they were allowed in movies and I'm sure they were paid garbage. But just bec they didnt get to play the leading characters doesnt mean those movies should be sent to archives. I want to appreciate those actors on screen no matter what kind of character they played
If they were not made today then they should not be viewed by todays standards .We are all grown up enough to understand that .Please do not mess with films that were made in different times as we can only learn from history as it is and it is not to be censored .
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So you want to erase all black actors of that time? It was a milestone that they were allowed in movies back then and I'm sure they were paid garbage, but just bec they didnt get to play the leading characters doesnt mean those movies should be sent to archives. I want to appreciate those actors on screen no matter what kind of character they played
I don’t really see much black films having a diverse cast... Whenever I see their movies it’s like an all black cast... why isn’t anyone talking about that???
Anyone remember George Carlin's notes from 1989 about the letter to the FCC about preacher hearing something's didn't like? ... there are two knobs on the radio! One turns it off and the other... changes the station!" "... it's called 'freedom of choice' and you can read about it in the library if you haven't burned all the books!" I fear the African-American community will never be happy with the rest of us.
You use them as teaching tools. I was six when I saw a bootlegged copy of Song of the South. It was instrumental in my learning about racism and being able to contextualize how a publicly held belief could be so morally and obviously wrong, yet be considered normal in the past. If I hadn’t seen it, I don’t think eventually learning about the civil rights movement and Jim Crow years later would have been as powerful for me, because I don’t think I could have contextualized it as well. Having racist depictions from old movies to go off of made it all the more believable that police / wife southerners in general could be so cruel, because I’d seen how cruel their depictions in old movies could be. So old movies should stick. Not because they’re even critically good films, but because they’re effective teaching tools and they’re a quick and easy way to show younger viewers how backwards old views are. But they should be watched with a responsible parent who’s available to answer questions their child may have during and afterwards.
I’ve said it once and I will say it again, the original 1941 Disney film Dumbo was less racist than some of the films being made today. I concede that the song “When I See An Elephant Fly” does have strongly offensive racial undertones. But the main narrative of the story is against the spirit of prejudice. The elephant Jumbo Junior was judged by his fellow elephants based on the way he looked, namely his oversized ears. The cruelties that he and his mother are subjected to throughout the film is a condemnation of the ideas that also give birth to racist thinking. Judging people based on their looks is a faulty way of viewing the world, and it has caused needless pain and suffering and death throughout the generations. It has to stop before it destroys people of all races. But I doubt that destroying objectionable scenes in these films is going to help. If anything, it will give rise to a generation of ignorant people who will deny that any of the atrocities of the past ever happened, in order to push their own agenda. A better way in my mind would be to educate people as they watch these films that the scenes in it are inappropriate, and this is the reason why.
I understand where you're coming from but it presents a whole set of other questions. For example what is your position on horror movies pornography and violent movies? Is it okay for our culture to ban those?
GWTW was full of caricatures-- not one of them resembled a real person, black or white. It was an overblown, dramatic, romantic epic-- that's why it was so great. But if you want to talk representation, Mammie and Big Joe, both black, were the most sensible characters in the whole film.
If you don't like these other Black Films, don't watch them. Simple. Those Black Actors opened the door to others. You will not have Eddie Murphy or Steve Harvey if not for Red Fox or Richard Pryor.
The real reason why Black Panther hit $1,000,000,000 was because it is part of a very popular movie series, the MCU. If it was a stand alone movie, it probably wouldn’t have been so successful.
Another story: As an aspiring aerospace engineer some classes got to design and build models for the wind tunnel. As a special project one group build the Hindenburg as it appeared in 1936 with swastikas and Olympic rings. A Jewish professor was not pleased and the era appropriate decals removed. I know why... but we didn't get to have any say in the issue. I once asked my daughter's friend about the Nazi eagle on her t-shirt; she didn't know anything about the history just thought the symbol looked cool. (SS did have cool uniforms... as despicable as the mindset was...)
I spent a lot of time thinking about this question. Like.. a whole minute. And I figured out the best course of action is to watch them if you want to and don’t watch them if you don’t 🤯
Get off your high horse. You don’t get to tell me what “our current values“ are. Gone with the wind is a classic film that has references to slavery. Get over it. It’s a historical film and one of the greatest of all time. If you choose to see only negative things, then don’t watch it.
How about we put a warning and some sort of mssg before every film that has racist stuff in it from back then. That way people know it’s racist and learn from it, instead of erasing it
We leave them alone, just add a thing in the front and say that we no longer believe in portrayals like this and leave history alone! Jim Crow is over, and there is a museum dedicated to it now where we can see the past and learn from it. I grew up with a LOT of these newly deemed 'racist' movies and it never made me racist whatsoever. These films arent making people racist just like video games don't make people violent. Stop blaming media for the problems of problematic individuals in our society.
History has not been kind to many racial groups, not only the Blacks. Gone with the Wind was written to depict the Civil war and the loss of thousands of lives on both sides. It was written by a white woman and it would be interesting to read a depiction by a black historian.
Black panther was an overall good film but that movie is flawed no matter of importance it may seem to the black community. Black panther could've helped out the community starting with his surroundings in Africa and even more so it was more of a cultural saving that people needed in that universe. Get out was boring thriller that left more to be desired although it's twist was ruined by it's trailers ,it still maintained a engaging premise. Although it does present the statement that these are good made flicks.. it doesn't hold significantly to better film making that'll hold to the test of time. Although there is no dought that a black director and cast will one bring about a film that will leave it's mark for decades to be praised. This really shouldn't be something to be clinging on towards a more progressive society for every topic. The real problem is amongst everyone and everything that culture, among society, class, and rights that affect and causes a great issue that many fail to pinpoint that disaspline and upbringings can forever forge a different future of it's predicessors to further know that mentality better suited is Frankly I don't give a damn approuch towards life better suits me. There is wrong and right and sometimes there is no distinction but to have common sense might enlightened your life if you'd only see that all of your colors don't compare as to seeing the sky take different forms with color amongst the cosmos that yet bring forth the only truth in mind. We are free to pursue yet bound to our own prison.
You don't... So what's done is done. The question that you should be asking/thinking?+!... #1:What should we/you/I: do when I've now seen what's really in your heart... #2:Do all people's really changed for the good?. #3: What does the Hebrew Bible; really mean in it's precepts on IYYOB: ch 9 vs 24 Remember if you don't stand for the Truth. Than you shall fall for anything. Da End You're Welcome
I think we should ban romantic movies because they portray unrealistic expectations of the gender identity roles between men and women. Where do you stand on that issue? Do you watch romantic movies? Because it doesn't represent our culture what should we do about it?
I like history films, they remind me how we started , but now these days the people has gotten to far with greed, anger, and racist, when all we need to do is love one another and stop being selfish ❤️
We embrace them. How can we resent the part of our history which truly resembles the strength we have to attain greatness. It’s like the kid who’s embarrassed of the parent who works hard to keep food on the table. I don’t think we should shun what those before us had to endure in order to be seen respected. We have came a very long way. Hail to those who came before us! The way makers who ran so we could exceed the expectations of those who prayed for a better day.
Have these people even read the uncle remus stories? The book won the Correta Scott King award for Representation. And that award is the highest honor given to African American books. These people are just cherry picking and taking things out of context.
We have made the fatal mistake of trying to go back to things that NOW make us or a small portion uncomfortable and calling it valueless. How foolish and what a waste. We will lose all sense of culture and history for the good and the bad. If you don’t want to watch it, then don’t. You have that personal freedom. It’s not complicated.
Have these people even read the uncle remus stories? The book won the Correta Scott King award for Representation. And that award is the highest honor given to African American books. These people are just cherry picking and taking things out of context.
Well if we erase history, we're all but doomed to repeat it. Like it or not, these films are a part of our country's history. History is often ugly, but what we _should_ do is change the present. We still have people who think interracial marriage is a sin and openly fly the Confederate flag. Shame them to no end, and we can start making some more progress. Erasing our horrific past is not going to do it. It'll just make it worse.
@ric Gikonyo Um dude, you _do_ realize that Gone With The Wind made the most money of any movie that has ever been released in theaters, right? About $4.5 billion after adjusting for inflation.
It's interesting because a movie like gone with the wind is one of my favorite i watch it every year. I think what's important is to simply educate ourselves. I can watch this movie while still understanding that number one it's rife with lies and stereotypes and number two realizing that it's mostly romanticized fiction.
@@DarkHumorWritesItself I understand bro; born into hate. Not your fault. Black people need to focus on who makes decisions that supposedly works for them that really doesnt work. That's the white people.
Black panther is the most overrated movie in modern cinema, creed was pretty good tho, dont like it as much as I used to cuz of the anti gun propaganda thrown in.
Racism is wrong but throwing black film depictions in the faces is wrong when they play it all over the radio in forms of rap and whatnot and it’s apparently OK to listen to but not see further more all you hear of is blackface when they always seem to leave out the fact that black performers would use white face in their performances around the same time period it’s the same difference..
Well if you to watch ..Gone With The Wind... I guess you would need to take psych meds and then schedule an appointment with a psychologist or psychiatrist and then possibly deal with post traumatic stress disorder.
@@Abbysyoutubee Please don't trivialize the destructive nature of vicious hateful and evil movies like the horrible racist disgusting movie Gone With The Wind. Every copy of that horrendous piece of trash should be burned. Anybody who owns a copy of Birth of a Nation should be arrested and sentenced ten years of hard labor. Don't use the first amendment as an excuse for owning and watching those movies. Thank God the first amendment is being done away with and we have corporations and the mainstream media that tell us what to watch,say and think.
alot of people in the comments whining about cancel culture and changing history?! that is just sad. Its cinema trying to outgrow racist imagery, these films will always exist and they will be acknowledged but in the context of education. most likely.
It's called history, it's in the past. You can't change . But if you continue to try and forget it. Then expect it to repeat itself.
Exactly!!!!
Wait so my liberal cancel culture tv is wrong? No way.
@Patrick Bateman hahaha why not! ?
These movies expose what social conditions were like, back in earlier times. Those times were nothing to be proud of, but they did exist and in the manner shown by the movies. If we get rid of these movies, generations from now will claim those conditions never existed. Don't erase history - use it to build on and to never repeat.
It's also erasing all black actors of that time which was a milestone that they were allowed in movies and I'm sure they were paid garbage. But just bec they didnt get to play the leading characters doesnt mean those movies should be sent to archives. I want to appreciate those actors on screen no matter what kind of character they played
Exactly!!!
If they were not made today then they should not be viewed by todays standards .We are all grown up enough to understand that .Please do not mess with films that were made in different times as we can only learn from history as it is and it is not to be censored .
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If you don't wanna watch it, don't. But we should not be hiding from our history because it makes you uncomfortable.
So you want to erase all black actors of that time? It was a milestone that they were allowed in movies back then and I'm sure they were paid garbage, but just bec they didnt get to play the leading characters doesnt mean those movies should be sent to archives. I want to appreciate those actors on screen no matter what kind of character they played
I don’t really see much black films having a diverse cast... Whenever I see their movies it’s like an all black cast... why isn’t anyone talking about that???
Yawn, getting old.
To be honest, hardly kids nowadays watch old movies. My kids can barely watch original Star Wars without complaining 🙄
I prefer films that don't share "modern" values. They're not fake.
When you don’t like something, turn it off; don’t spend your stimulus money on it, go buy a flat screen. Opps, forced to see it again......
Anyone remember George Carlin's notes from 1989 about the letter to the FCC about preacher hearing something's didn't like? ... there are two knobs on the radio! One turns it off and the other... changes the station!" "... it's called 'freedom of choice' and you can read about it in the library if you haven't burned all the books!" I fear the African-American community will never be happy with the rest of us.
Help preserve Black stories and save Splash Mountain.
You use them as teaching tools.
I was six when I saw a bootlegged copy of Song of the South. It was instrumental in my learning about racism and being able to contextualize how a publicly held belief could be so morally and obviously wrong, yet be considered normal in the past.
If I hadn’t seen it, I don’t think eventually learning about the civil rights movement and Jim Crow years later would have been as powerful for me, because I don’t think I could have contextualized it as well. Having racist depictions from old movies to go off of made it all the more believable that police / wife southerners in general could be so cruel, because I’d seen how cruel their depictions in old movies could be.
So old movies should stick. Not because they’re even critically good films, but because they’re effective teaching tools and they’re a quick and easy way to show younger viewers how backwards old views are. But they should be watched with a responsible parent who’s available to answer questions their child may have during and afterwards.
I’ve said it once and I will say it again, the original 1941 Disney film Dumbo was less racist than some of the films being made today. I concede that the song “When I See An Elephant Fly” does have strongly offensive racial undertones. But the main narrative of the story is against the spirit of prejudice. The elephant Jumbo Junior was judged by his fellow elephants based on the way he looked, namely his oversized ears. The cruelties that he and his mother are subjected to throughout the film is a condemnation of the ideas that also give birth to racist thinking. Judging people based on their looks is a faulty way of viewing the world, and it has caused needless pain and suffering and death throughout the generations. It has to stop before it destroys people of all races. But I doubt that destroying objectionable scenes in these films is going to help. If anything, it will give rise to a generation of ignorant people who will deny that any of the atrocities of the past ever happened, in order to push their own agenda. A better way in my mind would be to educate people as they watch these films that the scenes in it are inappropriate, and this is the reason why.
I understand where you're coming from but it presents a whole set of other questions. For example what is your position on horror movies pornography and violent movies? Is it okay for our culture to ban those?
Radical left propaganda
You watch them. You reflect on differences. Easy.
GWTW was full of caricatures-- not one of them resembled a real person, black or white. It was an overblown, dramatic, romantic epic-- that's why it was so great. But if you want to talk representation, Mammie and Big Joe, both black, were the most sensible characters in the whole film.
When you cancel and hide, no one learns anything.
If you don't like these other Black Films, don't watch them. Simple. Those Black Actors opened the door to others. You will not have Eddie Murphy or Steve Harvey if not for Red Fox or Richard Pryor.
The real reason why Black Panther hit $1,000,000,000 was because it is part of a very popular movie series, the MCU. If it was a stand alone movie, it probably wouldn’t have been so successful.
Good grief, if it offends you then don't watch it, daaaaaaaah
Love the fact that the shortest comment is the smartest one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I like these real movies! Hell of a lot better than Real Housewives. Roots is my favorite movie, old club foot really is a hard worker.
Another story: As an aspiring aerospace engineer some classes got to design and build models for the wind tunnel. As a special project one group build the Hindenburg as it appeared in 1936 with swastikas and Olympic rings. A Jewish professor was not pleased and the era appropriate decals removed. I know why... but we didn't get to have any say in the issue. I once asked my daughter's friend about the Nazi eagle on her t-shirt; she didn't know anything about the history just thought the symbol looked cool. (SS did have cool uniforms... as despicable as the mindset was...)
We use them to discuss the flawed values of the past and we learn about why and how the values of society continue to change.
I spent a lot of time thinking about this question. Like.. a whole minute. And I figured out the best course of action is to watch them if you want to and don’t watch them if you don’t 🤯
Get off your high horse. You don’t get to tell me what “our current values“ are. Gone with the wind is a classic film that has references to slavery. Get over it. It’s a historical film and one of the greatest of all time. If you choose to see only negative things, then don’t watch it.
How about we put a warning and some sort of mssg before every film that has racist stuff in it from back then.
That way people know it’s racist and learn from it, instead of erasing it
That’s what I was thinking. Good comment
Now we have to love all black made movies even the bad ones.
If you're triggered by ancient movies then you need help.
Oh, I don't know, realize that past generations weren't as smart & enlightened as we seem to think we are? Not that hard.
We leave them alone, just add a thing in the front and say that we no longer believe in portrayals like this and leave history alone! Jim Crow is over, and there is a museum dedicated to it now where we can see the past and learn from it. I grew up with a LOT of these newly deemed 'racist' movies and it never made me racist whatsoever. These films arent making people racist just like video games don't make people violent. Stop blaming media for the problems of problematic individuals in our society.
Don't try to rewrite history, it is what it is.
History has not been kind to many racial groups, not only the Blacks. Gone with the Wind was written to depict the Civil war and the loss of thousands of lives on both sides. It was written by a white woman and it would be interesting to read a depiction by a black historian.
I fell in love with uncle Billy and Shirley Temples dance sequences together. Sigh. They were perfection.
As a screenshot capture of old thinking and, hopefully, not current thinking
Black panther was an overall good film but that movie is flawed no matter of importance it may seem to the black community. Black panther could've helped out the community starting with his surroundings in Africa and even more so it was more of a cultural saving that people needed in that universe.
Get out was boring thriller that left more to be desired although it's twist was ruined by it's trailers ,it still maintained a engaging premise.
Although it does present the statement that these are good made flicks.. it doesn't hold significantly to better film making that'll hold to the test of time. Although there is no dought that a black director and cast will one bring about a film that will leave it's mark for decades to be praised. This really shouldn't be something to be clinging on towards a more progressive society for every topic. The real problem is amongst everyone and everything that culture, among society, class, and rights that affect and causes a great issue that many fail to pinpoint that disaspline and upbringings can forever forge a different future of it's predicessors to further know that mentality better suited is
Frankly I don't give a damn approuch towards life better suits me. There is wrong and right and sometimes there is no distinction but to have common sense might enlightened your life if you'd only see that all of your colors don't compare as to seeing the sky take different forms with color amongst the cosmos that yet bring forth the only truth in mind. We are free to pursue yet bound to our own prison.
You don't... So what's done is done. The question that you should be asking/thinking?+!... #1:What should we/you/I: do when I've now seen what's really in your heart... #2:Do all people's really changed for the good?. #3: What does the Hebrew Bible; really mean in it's precepts on IYYOB: ch 9 vs 24
Remember if you don't stand for the Truth. Than you shall fall for anything.
Da End
You're Welcome
The birth of a nation made in 2016 is an underrated masterpiece !
Pretty scary. All those Democrats in white sheets.
I think we should ban romantic movies because they portray unrealistic expectations of the gender identity roles between men and women. Where do you stand on that issue? Do you watch romantic movies? Because it doesn't represent our culture what should we do about it?
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I mean Gone with the wind I pretty good even with the history behind it I think we should keep it
I loved this propaganda.
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I like history films, they remind me how we started , but now these days
the people has gotten to far with greed, anger, and racist, when all we
need to do is love one another and stop being selfish ❤️
Don't watch them if you don't like them.
Plot twist: white woman love and beg for BBC now
Release Song of the South.
Go to hell
And Save Splash Mountain!
We embrace them. How can we resent the part of our history which truly resembles the strength we have to attain greatness. It’s like the kid who’s embarrassed of the parent who works hard to keep food on the table. I don’t think we should shun what those before us had to endure in order to be seen respected. We have came a very long way. Hail to those who came before us! The way makers who ran so we could exceed the expectations of those who prayed for a better day.
That’s not part of our history, that’s how we were portrayed by racists
@@Abbysyoutubee Racism is apart of your history. If we hide it, we are doomed to repeat it.
Have these people even read the uncle remus stories? The book won the Correta Scott King award for Representation. And that award is the highest honor given to African American books. These people are just cherry picking and taking things out of context.
We have made the fatal mistake of trying to go back to things that NOW make us or a small portion uncomfortable and calling it valueless. How foolish and what a waste. We will lose all sense of culture and history for the good and the bad. If you don’t want to watch it, then don’t. You have that personal freedom. It’s not complicated.
Changing history doesn’t actually change history
Have these people even read the uncle remus stories? The book won the Correta Scott King award for Representation. And that award is the highest honor given to African American books. These people are just cherry picking and taking things out of context.
I dont share or have your current values
Obviously you put it in the memory hole Winston
See!! No one has a problem with Song of the South!! Bring it out of the vault!! Save Splash Mountain!!
Well if we erase history, we're all but doomed to repeat it. Like it or not, these films are a part of our country's history. History is often ugly, but what we _should_ do is change the present. We still have people who think interracial marriage is a sin and openly fly the Confederate flag. Shame them to no end, and we can start making some more progress. Erasing our horrific past is not going to do it. It'll just make it worse.
@ric Gikonyo Um dude, you _do_ realize that Gone With The Wind made the most money of any movie that has ever been released in theaters, right? About $4.5 billion after adjusting for inflation.
This how you know the don’t care it only has 10k veiws
It's interesting because a movie like gone with the wind is one of my favorite i watch it every year. I think what's important is to simply educate ourselves. I can watch this movie while still understanding that number one it's rife with lies and stereotypes and number two realizing that it's mostly romanticized fiction.
Oh it's about film
The reason why views are not seen together; different cultures.
@@DarkHumorWritesItself I understand bro; born into hate. Not your fault. Black people need to focus on who makes decisions that supposedly works for them that really doesnt work. That's the white people.
@@DarkHumorWritesItself 😏
Plot twist: white woman love and beg for BBC now
Black panther is the most overrated movie in modern cinema, creed was pretty good tho, dont like it as much as I used to cuz of the anti gun propaganda thrown in.
We should Cancel them 🤪
Throw toast at the screen.
Plot twist: white woman love and beg for BBC now
Racism is wrong but throwing black film depictions in the faces is wrong when they play it all over the radio in forms of rap and whatnot and it’s apparently OK to listen to but not see further more all you hear of is blackface when they always seem to leave out the fact that black performers would use white face in their performances around the same time period it’s the same difference..
I'm guessing we destroy them and erase any mention of them.
Congrats Texas and Mississippi for setting Americans free.
And dropping like flies
You get lost from some other comment section ? Or on deaths door in Texas the Covid capital of the world and you wonder why .🙄
Another Trump Bot filling up random comment sections . Such a Sad bunch or losers.
By.not watching them 🙄
List history alone, learn from it, evolve from it....
There are numerous animals now so domesticated from being trapped like slaves. It's goes on today the victim is animals, even insects.
Well if you to watch ..Gone With The Wind... I guess you would need to take psych meds and then schedule an appointment with a psychologist or psychiatrist and then possibly deal with post traumatic stress disorder.
You need to simply for posting that comment
@@Abbysyoutubee Please don't trivialize the destructive nature of vicious hateful and evil movies like the horrible racist disgusting movie Gone With The Wind. Every copy of that horrendous piece of trash should be burned. Anybody who owns a copy of Birth of a Nation should be arrested and sentenced ten years of hard labor. Don't use the first amendment as an excuse for owning and watching those movies. Thank God the first amendment is being done away with and we have corporations and the mainstream media that tell us what to watch,say and think.
My sister is in this!
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By destroying them in the name of progression...
Go watch The Hills have Eyes
alot of people in the comments whining about cancel culture and changing history?! that is just sad. Its cinema trying to outgrow racist imagery, these films will always exist and they will be acknowledged but in the context of education. most likely.
Get over it. This is ridiculous.
Plot twist: white woman love and beg for BBC now
@Jacqueline Vann the plot twist is real tho
Great Actors, I refuse to complain. Fantastic people, yes their black. Great
Yawwwwwwwn.. bro these black pipo BORING AF, 💤 💤 💤
You appreciate them and reflect on how far we’ve come and improved as a society. How is this so hard?
I don’t appreciate false representation and lies
You sound really dumb when you said appreciate them
Most people will just put their heads in the sand and pretend they were never made .