BMW 4.4L M62TU Engine Timing Procedure With Germanautosolutions.com Vanos Timing Kit
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BMW 4.4L M62TU Engine Timing Procedure With the www.germanautosolutions.com Timing Kit,
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I had a P0021 in my 01' 740i after doing a full timing guide replacement. I used the cheaper kit. As you probably already know, Bank 2 is driver side (in a LHD car). I removed and replaced the valve cover about 15 times, making small adjustments each time to the cam timing wheel/cog. Finally got this thing to work. I removed the torx in the front of the timing cover and a little at a time rotated the timing wheel, reassembled, cleared codes, started it, restarted it. If you have a P0021, you don't have to re-time it entirely (unless maybe you're off by a tooth, though not sure how you can really do that). I put a long punch through the timing hole (torx bolt hole in upper timing cover) and my correct timing was just on the right margin of the hole in the timing wheel. So, in other words, the punch was just right of center of the hole in the timing wheel.
Nice to see these tools and how they are set up. I bought the G.A.S. set and have bought all the parts to do the job on my 2004 range rover but the boat shop has been nonstop and no time left for my own car, might have to wait until the end of the season to get the time. The guides have not blown out yet just that annoying vanos knock at idle I'm hoping every thing will hold together until it get the time. Thanks for the video.
good video, if anyone ever needs any parts for E46, E38 and E39. I've a lot of good used parts, will beat anyone's prices.
Thanks for such great video, If I should do this job while the engine is on a stand? How should I lock the crankshaft?
You know. Watching this video I realized why people don’t give more videos thumbs up. (I am definitely not insulting your video at all) most of the time when we make UA-cam videos we’ve done these jobs so many times we forget that people that have not done this job don’t understand it because they’re not doing it.
I like the way you take the time to explain things. And I certainly do the same and my videos as well I like the video very much God bless keep up the good work
Excellent video. Not many people can set this up and it not a bit shaky or lag on 1st throttle... I have the German kit as well
Thank god for this video. I'd like a super detailed version but this was awesome
Nathan I appreciate you trying . you should take this video down or tell people where you mess up and fix your mistakes off camera instead of just leaving it because I have had to help two people now who followed your video step by step and messed up doing it. Thank you . I'm not trying to be rude
Hi Nathan. I have a 2003 E53 X5 with the 4.4 litre M62TU engine. I have just replaced the spark plugs, fuel filter, valve cover gaskets, CCV, the radiator, the alternator diode rectifier, and several coolant hoses. My engine now idles rough, and has low power under throttle. INPA diagnostic software states that I have a misfire in cylinders 1, 2 and 5.
Since putting it all back together, and getting rough idle, I have cleaned the spark plugs, put new spark plugs in, tried moving ignition coils around to different cylinders. The fault does not move with the ignition coils. Cylinders 1, 2 and 5 still have misfires. I have tried running the engine with the MAF sensor disconnected; engine still runs rough. I have tried spraying brake-parts cleaner on the engine manifold and vaccum hoses; I cannot find a vacuum leak.
Any suggestions?
Hey Nathan thanks for the lesson one more thing i how to clean the Oil Sludge in my engine, Will the Oil pump be affected please advise if it might cost me too much than replacing the whole engine
Nice work thank you for sharing very helpful..question I purchased a vanos(dealership part)I replace it but I'm still having issue on the left side only. I took the connector for the tank vent valve I swap it with the vanos ...the vanos start working but now code for the tank vent Valve is on..I'm getting no power from the vanos wire connector..is that an ECU issue
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Thank you again for the informative video
great vid Nate. Love the G.A.S timing kit. How did she run after?
man.. i like how all these videos you have, some of them you mention to do this, some of them you dont mention to do certain things. this got me messed all up
Great video as always.
Thanks a million for all your excellent videos on BMW's. you have helped me save thousands over the years. But I am curious as to your experience, what is the longest time and most mileage ever recorded before chain guides wear out. I recently had the death rattle on 03 X5 4.4 on cold start only, so changed cam tensioner for first time and it cured noise. While I did valve cover gasket, I checked upper chain tensioner guide and saw no wear at all. I was considering doing chain guides since I had valve covers off, so given no visible wear, chain was tight again, I got curious as so many seen to have failures at half the mileage I have on mine which is 230K. Does not use more than half a quart between 7500 oil change intervals I use since new. Also, no valve guide issues of smoke on cold start which also seems common at half my mileage. So anyone have any input on this question?
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Hi Nathan, This is such a great video. As I have noticed you have not insert chain tensioner locking clip? Does it not mandatory to insert? I hope you will reply to this message and it will be highly appreciated. Thanks
Well, Nathan is the real deal, hands down! yet I must say that e39 540i is an awesome engine IF oil and coolant service is done properly and IN TIME to avoid the vanos and chain slides problems too soon
Thank you very much for this video, you did a great job of explaining the timing👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Nathan at 1531 you are torquing down the camshaft sprocket bolts. I saw a timing tool set that had an extension on the blocks that swung over and screwed down into the spark socket. This would guarantee no block slippage. My tool set (german one) does not have this spark socket contraption. Is it better? Do we need it to help hold down the blocks?
Hello, could you please tell me which position the VANOS camshaft timing marks should be in? on a 2012 X5 xd35i n55 engine
Hey great video I’m wondering if it’s possible to replace the Vanos seals with out the timing kit? I don’t want to spend the money on the kit. If anything I’ll just run the Vanos rattle till the something happens lol
Hi Nathan, did the job and have a multi without ( beep) mine shows after torque the leftthreat bolts 0.001 I guess its right ?
Does this work the same way with the m60b40 v8 engine? Both my heads are off and i know which way the cams point on the 1-4 head to be in TDC. But cant find any information for the 5-8 head. I dont want to time it incorrectly any information would help so much
Would you do my timing chain guides and vanos Rebuilt ? I’m in New York where are you located ?
I was wondering have you figured out a way to tighten the disk down with out doing the whole procedure over and
have you ever figured out what that little removable plug is right above the cam sensor is for besides looking to see if the disc is lose?? It sure looks like we should be able to use it for setting the timing ! I just did the timing chain guides the car was running great with tons of power and then one day it just wouldn't start .dreading doing it over Hahaha
Great video 👍
Hey i found broken piston in oil pan or bottom of lifter make full in depth rebuild. Everything so i can do my self can i replace broken piston and do the timing chains all my guides was in oil pan also
I had ordered the chines kit since I watched you used it, but with this Check engine for "timing over/under advance" I'm now worry. How bad is it? and why do people still use it? does the light come up every time?
i was just looking for a video on how to get the dang windshield wiper arms off. now the whole rear end of my car is torn apart and i don't know what happened
My X5 2002 4.6is M62TU doesn't have pins on sprockets, so how I can check the continuity? Please let me know. Thanks
when i loosened the exhaust cam bolt the tensioner for the vanos compressed creating slack on the vanos chain is my tensioner broke?
Well ...did my guides and everything else using the China kits..ran great for about 500 miles and then loud ticking, loss of power and P0012 code. Checked Vanos solenoid with 12v, works, swapped both cam sensors, disconnected each cylinder coils, RPM dropped but ticking still there.. checked the lifters all seem to be springy ..no sign of wear on cam lobs...so Auto solution kit is on its way and I ll be doing this again.. I dont have continuity test on the M62 for the 4.6is..I also rebuilt the Vanos seals, maybe bank 1 slipped ...be checking that too...I hope P0012 is related to the loud ticking.. as i have no lifter/cam lob clearance.. China kit anyone? lol I have one for sale...prob would feel bad selling it..
good video, o still don't understanding the part of the vanos tool, you've used the Chinese before, but u mentioned about the check engine light, would those German tools have a different degree?
AMAZING VID thank you again for saving my butt i would have to scrap it if i had to pay someone
I just completed the timing procedure and it runs but it sounds like it had a knock. Also the code is reading bank 1 intake over advance. I know the intake cam shifted slightly when I removed the blocks. So you think that is the issue? Others have suggested a position sensor
I have the same code after using the cheap timing blocks and both times I set the timing the cam shifted like you said. Did you ever figure out if that is normal or if that is the problem?
Just used these GAS tools last night. Worked beautifully. The procedure is actually quite easy. Thoroughly cleaning/drying those torx cam bolts and their bores, then using Red Loctite IS very important. This is the best M62 timing How-To I've seen to date. Nice job!
What does the multimeter tell you? What is the relevence?
For those that DO NOT HAVE the G.A.S. kit. BUY THEM!!!. Save yourself the headache of a tear down and redo. I have both sets and the China kits are complete crap. This set also saved time while performing the procedure. They are VERY user friendly.
Nathan I have my pile of new parts for my e39 540i, and much of the engine and accessories are apart. Before I go further, I need help on the known problem areas on a 540i, at a dead stop; 1. Upper oil pan gasket will likely get torn for the exposed section, I bought an entire new gasket shall I cutout the section and replace the exposed section? 2. Jesus bolt, I bought the crankshaft pulley holder tool and a 3/4" large breaker bar. Confused if I should insert the locking pin before we pull hard on the bolt, or remove the bolt first, then insert the pin? RISK is shearing off the locking pin or bending the flywheel? Help. 3. Cant get the darn power steering pump out of the way properly. Some procedures say to move it aside, some remove the pressure hoses at the banjo bolts? What is best with least risk and mess? 4. I heard aligning the valve covers with the upper timing covers is a nightmare causing VCG leaks. Ideas? These are all show-stoppers for me, I want to ensure the timing and reassembly is done right the first time. Thanks!
The crank bolt has locktite on it so you will have to heat it up a little with a propane torch then it will come off easy, you wont break of the crank pin by prying against it, if the oil pan gasket rips just cut it level with the block and use sealer, if it dont break you can still reseal it with sealer, remove the whole power steering pump and be sure to use locktite when you reinstall the bolts or they will back out and snap the pump off
Hey Nathan. So I have the timing chain tools. Bought them off of Amazon. Are you saying they will most likely cause a check engine light or is that only if you set them up incorrectly?
the vanos jigs will not work the check engine light will be on
What's do you think about this? Before removing the bolts on the tone rings, checking to see if the alignment tools are set correctly. If they aren't then you can adjust the vanos tools, retighten them and put them to the side until you're ready to set timing permanently. Just trying to come up with solutions for people that have bought these tools already. Your take?
ok. quetion. what if the vanos don't beep because mine are not beeping ? is it because they are oily ?
Same problem for me. Did you ever figure it out ?
Why didn’t you show how to put in the tensioner? I don’t get these videos
Look easy on video. G.A.S i use it on mine follow all instructions, dtc and lock exhaust and intake. Align trigger wheel yet im still end up with code 33 and 34.. I recheck everything all match up...??????
I just did a video on this a few days ago , go Check it out it might be more clear
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Hi Nathan I'm having a problem just finished putting everything together won't start .I had a problem every time I remove the lock off the vanos cam it moves a quarter turn I haven't seen you do this or show y the intake cam turns on its own tbrew the timingboff and 50 psi compression..I put the nut with the pins in and it moves back and forth almost a quarter then tbe exhaust cam finally starts to move what is causing this
The cam will snap back when you remove the blocks, that is normal, if it wont start check the fuse by the ecu in the small 5 fuse holder
Nathan's DIY Garage so your saying that even if the cam moves off almost 45 degress its ok. But once its catches the exhaust csm it throwa the timing off then again im not removing the torx bolts so i gotta do that first ive been trying to remove them with cast impact torx but uts a long one im losing leverage whats the best way to put the chain on
If BMW just keyed their camshaft like EVERY OTHER MANUFACTURER ON EARTH, none of this nonsense would happen. You would just fix the crank and cams into place, lay the chain onto the sprockets, and GO!
question?if timing go out or coursing no start , will it bend any valve?
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hi I want to no point of crank shaft mark position.
You to tie more then that bcs they get lose yes just like you do a tire
Whats that multimeter beep checking?
Leo Younis continuity
My vanos is moving after I set timing and loosing my spot
The m62tu is definitely a v8 worth doing an ls swap. Please put an LS into a 540i man!!!
I set the timing on my M26. It started up twice. now I’m getting code for camshaft sensor and it won’t turn over. Help!
If its a m62tu remove the cam sensors and stick your finger in the hole and see if the little wheel is loose
Yes the little wheel was loose. I’ve reset the timing now I’m getting a P0011 code.
Timing over advanced might have skipped a tooth.
what is the labor time for this 1-2 hours ? :D
Crank 19 plus anything else that breaks or losing bolts b's
19 hours I'm on my third day
I was recently quoted 5k for this job. Guess what? I truly believe I can and will tackle this job. Pains me to buy GAS tool for $300 bucks for one time job.
Is this the same engine that’s in a 2003 Range Rover??
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yes it is, the same engine.
Car starts but cuts bac off
And
Do yourself a favor, get a 1998 E38.. avoid the stupidity of these. No variable valve timing garbage, no expensive quick connect hoses. The M62B44 is much simpler, more reliable.
Soooo true
China lock kit is bullshit .bank 2 on mine is still off after timing it 3 times now i havr to do it again
If you want to do the job right, get the OEM tool; buy a BMW yet too cheap to buy the BMW tool.
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I gave up forgiving my bmw junk 740 named after it seven hundred forty defects got rid of it pos german crapmobile