Ghost 212 gets a 24MM NIBBI Carburetor and speed test
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2022
- Ghost 212 gets a 24MM NIBBI Carburetor and speed test
Installed a 24MM NIBBI carburetor with a 120 main jet and a 35 pilot on the 212 GHOST-powered Azusa minibike to see if it would make any difference in performance.
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212 Ghost racing engine vs 212 Predator ua-cam.com/video/lm6zTvhJHSk/v-deo.html
You've been a huge help in my learning process. Thanks for the videos! Excited to do my first 212 build, stage 1 on a doodlebug. Love your "budget build" video, especially explaining how you remove the governor and oil sensor. Very helpful. Keep up the good work and be safe.
Thank you! Thanks for watching the videos! Im glad they help.
You're the reason I love mini bikes!
Awesome!!
I like how you did the pan away on the intro.
Good info as always
Nobody ever talks about these carbs!! Awesome vid!!!
Thanks! Ya, true!
@@Black66 nibbi also makes a 26mm flat slide with a power valve. I just have a mental block for carbs bigger than 24mm.
Hahaha 👍 I saw the title and was like, what strange slang is this …. What’s a nibbi? 😂😳😂
I need a cool neighbor like you. I’m into mini bikes as well and my neighbors hate me lol
Desert People arnt bothered by Any of this. We Encourage it!
Unless you just moved from California lol
My neighbors just called the cops on me yesterday because I was working on and testing my friends new mini bike
Just put this carb in my coleman BTX200 this weekend. Works great at idle and low-mid speeds, but noticeably bogs down on the high end. Thinking it's the jetting? Thanks, love your videos!
Just got a bt200x and r200x and im in love with the minis now just need to learn what carbs are best on stock motors with no governor
A VM22 is a good inexpensive carb
Black66. Iam building a 212 Ghost with Billet Parts. Iam Going to try it out on a. Coleman CC100X. Going to use ase a torque converter. With a juggernaut pulley
Great video! What is your get setings on nibbi and what is your elevation? Milan
I'm at 5300 feet elevation , any recommendations on both jet sizes for NIBBi. Thanks
Would you choose this PE series over the PWK series carbs? I can’t decide which is best for my yx 140cc
Just slapped my nibbi on my bike and I’m never going back to a cheap vm 22 lol 🙏🏼🔥😊
How to you get tristar front wheels to stop shaking if they do? Mine is soo bad it is almost unrideable.
On your predator 212 non hemi do u up grade your flywheel b4 going with a nibbi carb
Hey hows it going, I had emailed you a while back about jetting a pe24mm carb well the idle screw houseing broke on that one so I'm going with the nibbi since it looks like a copy. I know you said you were at elevation. I started with a 40 pilot and a 140 main on the real keihin pe 24mm carb and the plug came out looking like it barely ran slight tan ring. "new build". Only had a bog off idle and could barely adjust the air screw out so I was guessing more pilot. Anyway I know elevation plays a huge role in it but it's at least a starting point when I get the nibbi in because I don't think the fix I came up with will last the vibrations ripping around the dirt oval.
Hi Black. Your videos got me from 19 to 38 MPH! Got a carb question. Carb jet couldnt be removed on my baja. Put carb bowl back on. That little bowl gasket kind of pinched. Cant line it up. Now its quitting & leaking a bit if gas. Can something that small shut me down?
If you haven't found a solution, you probably got gas on the o ring, put it in freezer for about 30 min to an hr and refit
I was hoping you made a video with an upgraded carburetor and here it is :) Yes valve springs would be in order I just hope the rod is decent and it's balanced. Top speed could have dropped due to rich jetting on top end. Shutting it off right at top speed and reading the plug would tell you a lot. With all those 4 stroke engines you should get a wideband like the AEM to know your a/f ratio so you can get the most out of the engine. Can you get stronger clutch springs to get a higher RPM off the line? That would help the 0-30 a lot since it sounds like the engine has plenty of power once the rpm's get up a bit..
I have a Noram Cheetah clutch I use for High RPM starts. Check out the Doodlebug playlist. I use the Noram on that bike and others on the channel. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/j39zPwFQOR8/v-deo.html
How do you control the choke on a Nibbi carb?
I need to buy a Nibbi carburetor.Great video
Thank! Ya, they are good carbs for the money.
@@Black66 I just got my 24mm Nibbi carburetor and I have the 125 jet. I’m just watching a bunch of your videos first before I start working on my mini dirt bike.
@@samsgarage1716 Thanks! Hope the videos help . The Nibbi 24MM is a good carb
Wish I could chat with ya man. I got a ghost as well and would love to pick your brain a bit for some advice and help possibly. Love your vids and I’ve learned a lot from you as well
Thanks for watching the videos! Shoot me an email, It's in the about section, or PM me on Instagram
Guys I'm rebuilding a ghost .and I was doing 60 before mods..now I need a new carburetor
What kinda of gas are you using?
Why did u decide to run 24mm instead of 26mm ?
Can you post what intake you are running? The link has expired. I'm having trouble finding the right one. The ones I have won't take the factory nuts as it hits the intake, and I can not tighten them. I've tried 2 different ones already.
My mini bike did 61mph with a mod 2 cam, billet rod/flywheel, 22lbs springs. 18t clutch & 75 rear sprocket..
Just looking for a good slide carb for my mini bike so the throttle is better too, i bought the omb throttle linkage for governor & sucks it didnt have a return spring it was 22 buck plus shipping. Now plug a small spring. I should of bought a slide carb, those have a spring in them.
One of my favorite slide carbs is on this bike...ua-cam.com/video/xV8i59aGUao/v-deo.html
Hey whats that black box that you have on behind the carb, is it the vacuum seal black piece that comes with the regular 19m carb?
It's a plastic carb insulator. Helps to keep fuel temps down.
What jets do you like to use in your nibbi
What app do you use for your tests? Can't seem to find one that will do the 0-30. Thx
I do zero to thirty with a Dragy performance meter
man i love watching your videos....im so bummed rite now ...i had my only mini bike stolen 2 days ago and now all j can do is watch minibkkes now 😞
Sorry to hear that. What town was that in?
My condolences. Check your local stores. Near the end of the season they like to sell off left over stock.
@@mikesbarn1858 there’s a mini bike season? 🤔 🤪 … 👍
@@rawbsworld6604 no why i had my mini bike since 2002 =(
@@jesus1609 It was a tongue & cheek statement 🤷♂️ obviously in snow regions there’s a season. I wasn’t mocking your loss 👌 I feel for ya, I despise thieves hope you find it take care mate ,,, ✌️🤙
Can you link the air filters and parts
Do you prefer the 24MM nibbi over the 22MM nibbi?
Would you recommend upgrading a Mikuni to a Nibbi on a non-racing bike
I have gotten more performance from the NIBBI 24MM over the VM22 . They are both good carbs. Check out the Predatot 224 playlist. ua-cam.com/video/45Eu29F8V3g/v-deo.html
Would this Nibbi 24mm work on a normal predator 212?
yes
I have a 212 predator hemi with 26lb valve springs,ARC +.010"piston rod,billet flywheel,and a nibbi PE28mm carburetor. And when you give full throttle my bike bogs out??
Had same problem tried a lot of configurations never got great just ok I think I would opt to 26mm
Do you have a vid comparing a flat slide to the nibbi?
Yes, here is the video, thanks for watching ua-cam.com/video/dg5LzzZRvMo/v-deo.html
To my knowledge, may be wrong, but I believe the Ghost's coil pack is what governs them at that 6800 rpm. May check into that, tho, I'm not 100%.
Yes, check out this Ghost video. I take off the rev limiting coil and install a billet flywheel. ua-cam.com/video/lm6zTvhJHSk/v-deo.html
@@Black66 gotcha, I'll check it out. 👍
Hi nice video what app do you use to test your speed?
Thanks! I use digiHUD along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
Do you think you would have gained more with a slightly bigger jet in that nibbi? Just wondering because im about to snag a 24 for my tilly 212 with banzai 265, ported head, pipe, and billet parts for a street 2.6:1 geared drag bike!?!?
I live at 3700 foot elevation. I usually get away with slightly smaller jetting up here. Check the playlist for many different carb set ups and Jetting.
@@Black66 So what carb if you could only buy one to upgrade a vm22 would you get for a warmed over tilly 212 with 265 cam for basically same style of bike riding you do? Ive watched all your vids a hundred times but am still undecided lol!! Thanks man!
Would a predator 224 Benefit with this carburetor I bought a mikuni style carburetor and it just overflows with gas and has gas leak out of the intake (if you have a fix for that please help :) ) otherwise I’m looking to get another carb.
Check jet size I run a 120 in my 224
Check out the Predator 224 playlist. There is a video with the NIBBI carb on the 224 ua-cam.com/video/45Eu29F8V3g/v-deo.html
Thank you both!
Hey. I have a similar ghost engine- can you tell me what jetting you used for the test? Thank you.
I used a 120-main and a 35-pilot. My jetting might be different than yours, I live at a t 3700-foot elevation.
@@Black66 thank you
hey what manifold do you use for the nibbi
I linked the manifold in the description. Its a VM22 manifold. Thanks for watching!
The Ghost would probably run a little better with valve springs. Another great video!
Rev limiter 🤡
Valve float and coil limiting sound very similar. That was the coil. If I change the coil then absolutely increase the springs.
I threw a nibbi carb on a 1983 Honda xl250r because I thought the old carb was plugged up. It didn't start before and it doesn't start now. Do you think the carburetor is the problem or could it be something else? Everything seems in check but still won't start. (Exhaust gets hot but doesn't kick over)
Check the ignition coil if it has the right gap or new spark plug
@@Wulf805 I bought a new spark plug and set the gap, and was the same. But I would think if it has spark, fuel, and compression it should kick over.....but nope haha. Also thank you for the input
Put some gas down spark plug hole. If it runs for bit you have a carburetor/intake problem.
@@litnlarry okay I'll try that. I think I tried before but just backfired.... I adjusted the valves afterwards due to them being too tight. but I'll try again. Thanks
Just a bit of history on the bike. It was parked for quite a while because the kid said it was seized.... I got it to free up and move smoothly. It had oil in it and valves seem fine. It has compression and spark. The exhaust gets hot to the touch when trying to kick it over and pops out of the tail pipe sometimes.
what about this nibbi compared to the vm22 i mean i already have a pvL flywheel and header pipe n stuff
The NIBBI is a good carb for the price IMO
You have got to change that gear ratio or tire size if your looking for top speed. I like you vids but man I feel bad for that ghost lol. My stock ghost goes 45+ on the MM212 kit, and it's no where near the rev limiter. I need to get a jug to get there. The ghost deserves some better love then wringing its neck on that small tire bike.
I gear these bikes to find out the limitations of these engines. Not for ultimate top speed. Thanks for watching.
@@Black66good way to see the weak points
Will this work on a stock predator with Governor and oil sensor removed?
Yes
@@Black66 thank you sir
I recently got a Mikuni vm22 on my 212 predator engine and I do not know how to tune it. I watched a bunch of videos on how to tune the two bolts and when I screw it both ways it idols the same. Like when I start up my bike it just starts driving when i dont give it gass. Please help.
Ive got the exact opposite problem mine idols good but spits and sputters at ober 4k and wont start back have tuned it and tuned it when I first put it on I got 8200 rpm now cant get over a couple grand without it acting up
The philips head screw on the front side of the carb adjusts idle speed. (Facing towards the front wheel) Try screwing that out when the bike is running. It'll lower the idle speed. Screwing it in clockwise will raise it.
@@WyFoster I rotated it both ways and it idols the same
Mine did the same until I got bigger size jets. The stock ones are too small
Don't go by other people telling you your jets are to small from factory, jetting is different, alot of variabls play into it. main thing is to make sure you don't have an air leak before you even start to tune the carb.
What main jet on the carb?
After 370 minibike videos on the channel, it's hard to remember a single video😃👍. Check out the Ghost playlist. I test a few different carbs and heads on the Ghost. ua-cam.com/video/ONJbFaEecQM/v-deo.html
Can u leave a link to the carb in description
Yes, the link is in the description.
What jet did you find best?
I'm at 3700 foot elevation, so my jet sizes seem to be a little smaller . I use around a 120 main
Where did u get that gas tank boss
Its a vintage tank I picked up off of ebay. I made the mounts. Check out the playlist for the build videos.
What I take manifold are you using
I linked the intake manifold in the description. Thanks for watching the videos!
@@Black66 awesome thanks for the great content
Lots of engineering
Did you adjust the needle at all??
Yes, the carb was tuned for the Ghost and. 3700-foot elevation. Check out the playlist for more combos with the Ghost. Thanks for watching.
ua-cam.com/video/5Grizcea_Ug/v-deo.html
@@Black66 thank you for the speedy reply!
Your house is like in the middle of nowhere. Good for off road.
I wanna try something different. a 24mm Nibbi will be plenty for a 212 Tilly? Nibbi claims a 28mm will be for that cc range...but your showing and proving otherwise. What's your findings bud?
I like the 24MM for a 212. A 26MM and a 28MM will work But they don't seem as snappy and as easy to start as the 24MM on a 212.
@@Black66 thank you for that info. I believe I'm gonna try out a nibbi 24mm
🤔 is the difference in weight, did you weigh the carbs? 🤷♂️ Is the nibbi lighter? 🤦😳😂 😝….. ✌️🤙
You should have removed the insulator and it would have been a perfect match, D to D shape instead of D to O shape
Check out the Ghost playlist! ua-cam.com/video/Ruc42N2GBzQ/v-deo.html
@@Black66 one thing for sure is you make tuning those thing look easy, I have a genuine 28mm mikuni that I can't get tuned.
@@scmafia7515 Have you checked out this video? ua-cam.com/video/b5bY-1gIWWk/v-deo.html
@@Black66 I just installed my 24mm nibbi, went to go start it up and gas came back through the carb, not the intake side..ever had that happen?