Thanks for showing the European trains. I like your western Maryland also. I have a C&O challenger upgraded to P2. It was a P1 in the beginning. Love the passenger cars. You have a great find. JH
Another great film Eric. I've always loved the European trains with their unique designs and color schemes. Unfortunately I missed the opportunity to purchase some when they were released. I had more local railroad interests in mind at the time. Thanks for sharing and "keep'em rolling ! 👍
Those European models that MTH did were quite impressive. I have the Western Maryland Challenger #1203. It's the largest steam I have on the layout followed by the Pennsylvania Q-2. Thanks for sharing your haul!
I have both 1203 and 1208 in mth m2’s. They run great. I also have the replacement shells for the 1-3-2 French locomotive. They are the black version. Have both the locomotive and tender shells. Both shells are wired and ready to be mounted.
The sound effect for the French engine is incorrect because the French locomotive is a compound with using steam twice and is very quiet. French steam locomotives were very complicated to maintain which is one of the reasons why they were replaced with electric trains. In the opening credits on the original fugitive series the train passenger cars say chaemin deer f i r which means Railroad in French my phone could not translated properly excuse the spelling.
@@erictrainman what a shame! I was really curious to see what they were saying. Do you know exactly where the Nord express went to? I had never heard of it until I just saw this video about now.
With their popularity here in the US, MTH should continue making these. Heard the tooling was sold to some European company, but maybe MTH can license them PS3 (like Atlas) so they can be sold just as they once were here in the US.
MTH went all in with the detail on their European models. It was necessary to compete in that market. They also made a lot of it in 2 rail, since that’s what most people there use. It’s too bad this project wasn’t really a success.
@@erictrainman European O scale is mostly 2 rail fine scale. Read this as super expensive and super detailed. MTH products were cheap by comparison, which should have given them a huge advantage. However, While I don’t have any specific numbers, it’s obvious either the MTH products didn’t perform well there, MTH lost interest, or maybe the market was just too small. Even the European manufacturers that I do follow because of my interest in Swiss g gauge don’t seem to do much O scale anymore, so it is indeed a tough market. I do know from following European forums that people were not impressed with the MTH motor and drive train quality and performance. In fact, some companies actually offered replacement motors and gears for the MTH engines. I would agree that the performance of MTH China drive and DCS speed control is often poor compared to European motors with ESU speed control. We just don’t know any better over here. As a result, I suspect the MTH products were viewed as cheap in a negative sense over there. I’m not trying to knock MTH here since I think their goal was to offer affordable and good looking o gauge in Europe, which is a noble goal, but they may not have fully understood the market.
That WM challenger is really nice, I had a chance to buy one at an auction in Nov 21', the guy got it for a bargain of $700, i had already at same sale practily stole a UP challenger with proto3 sounds for $450, lots ofbgreat bargains at that sale
Wasn't the biggest fan of the European models but after seeing yours, WOW 🤯It's too bad MTH didn't do a TGV to compete against Lionel's Acela. Just imagine🙄
Agreed. When they first came out I didn’t pay much attention to them. Like many others, I was focused on legacy which was brand new and the plethora of other new tooling. Now many years later, I’ve realized how beautiful they are
Can't beat the big M2 Fireball!! I love mine, WM all the way!!!
Very happy with mine as well!
Hi Eric,
Very nice collection!
Best match for the Rheingold Cars is a german Locomotive Class 18 from MTH
Interesting! I actually have one of those at the moment
Beautiful love the mth and the layout
Beautiful layout.
Great new additions to your collection.
Cool choices.
Thank you!
Thanks for showing the European trains. I like your western Maryland also. I have a C&O challenger upgraded to P2. It was a P1 in the beginning. Love the passenger cars. You have a great find. JH
Thanks for watching. That’s a beautiful engine
Very impressive collection you have purchased Eric. Congrats!
Thank you!
Another great film Eric. I've always loved the European trains with their unique designs and color schemes. Unfortunately I missed the opportunity to purchase some when they were released. I had more local railroad interests in mind at the time. Thanks for sharing and "keep'em rolling ! 👍
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. I missed them on the first release as well. They’re tough to find nowadays but do pop up sometimes
Those European models that MTH did were quite impressive. I have the Western Maryland Challenger #1203. It's the largest steam I have on the layout followed by the Pennsylvania Q-2. Thanks for sharing your haul!
Nice collection of BIG STEAM.
Thank you very much!
Excellent additions to your collection. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you and thanks for watching!
I have both 1203 and 1208 in mth m2’s. They run great. I also have the replacement shells for the 1-3-2 French locomotive. They are the black version. Have both the locomotive and tender shells. Both shells are wired and ready to be mounted.
Very nice! Sounds like we have similar taste
Great review! Just found your channel and subbed. Picking up my WM Challenger today, SUPER excited! Will have a review/run on my channel.
Great, thanks! I think I know the guy you got it from. I’m picking up another engine from him. Enjoy!
The sound effect for the French engine is incorrect because the French locomotive is a compound with using steam twice and is very quiet. French steam locomotives were very complicated to maintain which is one of the reasons why they were replaced with electric trains. In the opening credits on the original fugitive series the train passenger cars say chaemin deer f i r which means Railroad in French my phone could not translated properly excuse the spelling.
Learn something new everyday
Do you know what the French words are that are said, with the sound effects. Do you know what they’re saying?
@@lucasquintanilla1673 nope! Unfortunately I don’t speak French
@@erictrainman what a shame! I was really curious to see what they were saying. Do you know exactly where the Nord express went to? I had never heard of it until I just saw this video about now.
@@lucasquintanilla1673 I’m sure you could google translate it. I just haven’t done it. Wikipedia has some good info on the nord
Extraordinary video friend 😊
Thanks buddy!
Very nice video. The WM and the european locos are awesome. Thanks for sharing, do not get to see the europeans often
Thank you!I I enjoy models that’s aren’t seen everyday
Beautiful trains and layout. I just subscribed. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
With their popularity here in the US, MTH should continue making these. Heard the tooling was sold to some European company, but maybe MTH can license them PS3 (like Atlas) so they can be sold just as they once were here in the US.
I actually learned that Mth still has some of the tooling. They’re looking into the possibility of running another European engine
Gorgeous European trains and locomotives Eric and the detail, as you say, is mind boggling. I am still kind of partial to the WM Challenger however.
Thanks Roger! Really enjoying the challenger
Very nice engines, great finds!
Thanks man!
I love the European Locomotives. The detail is 2nd to none. I wish they would make more!
Agreed! Unfortunately I believe the tooling has been sold to Lenz
Always wanted an MTH European. I remember years ago one on-line dealer discounting a couple models to get rid of them. Should've snagged one then.
@@erictrainman Who is Lenz?
that Western Maryland locomotive is awesome
Your sceneries and train is great
Thank you
Nice collection
Great video.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed
MTH went all in with the detail on their European models. It was necessary to compete in that market. They also made a lot of it in 2 rail, since that’s what most people there use. It’s too bad this project wasn’t really a success.
Agreed. I’m not sure how successful they were with European customers. But they’re certainly sought after in the US 3 rail market
@@erictrainman European O scale is mostly 2 rail fine scale. Read this as super expensive and super detailed. MTH products were cheap by comparison, which should have given them a huge advantage. However, While I don’t have any specific numbers, it’s obvious either the MTH products didn’t perform well there, MTH lost interest, or maybe the market was just too small. Even the European manufacturers that I do follow because of my interest in Swiss g gauge don’t seem to do much O scale anymore, so it is indeed a tough market.
I do know from following European forums that people were not impressed with the MTH motor and drive train quality and performance. In fact, some companies actually offered replacement motors and gears for the MTH engines. I would agree that the performance of MTH China drive and DCS speed control is often poor compared to European motors with ESU speed control. We just don’t know any better over here. As a result, I suspect the MTH products were viewed as cheap in a negative sense over there. I’m not trying to knock MTH here since I think their goal was to offer affordable and good looking o gauge in Europe, which is a noble goal, but they may not have fully understood the market.
@@GlennFresch thanks for the detailed explanation! I didn’t know that. Makes sense
A train that needs subtitles hahaha
True!
My father has the m2 engine and the m2 prototype from Mth
Very cool!
That WM challenger is really nice, I had a chance to buy one at an auction in Nov 21', the guy got it for a bargain of $700, i had already at same sale practily stole a UP challenger with proto3 sounds for $450, lots ofbgreat bargains at that sale
Those are great deals!
Great engines.
Thank you!
The Rheingold needs pulled by a German engine
Thank you
Beautiful.I just acquired a vision line genset.want to trade?😅is the mountain German?you have fine taste
Thank you! While that genset is a beauty, I’m more of a steam guy!
Wasn't the biggest fan of the European models but after seeing yours, WOW 🤯It's too bad MTH didn't do a TGV to compete against Lionel's Acela. Just imagine🙄
Agreed. When they first came out I didn’t pay much attention to them. Like many others, I was focused on legacy which was brand new and the plethora of other new tooling. Now many years later, I’ve realized how beautiful they are
Awesome finds Eric. I think it’s a bit rude MTH puts more effort in the details of the European stuff lol
😂 that’s fair! They are beautiful though
@@erictrainman yes they are I’d love to have one. It would be nice if our American models got the love they deserve lol
beaux modeles j en ai aussi à des prix très abordables et de qualité
Awesome video 🚂🚋🚃🚋🚃😎🙃🙃🙃 💥subscribed💥
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What’d you pay for the collection
😂 it was a good deal
@@erictrainman 👁👁
*angry Eric Siegel noises*
😂
The price are a hell no that a car and truck payment
To each his own
Someone should translate the PFA sequence for us here in the comments.
Agreed!
I'm ray and I am looking for one
They’re out there!
Great stuff!