A marvelous list! My only quibble is that Dune (a book that you two gave a 3 out of 5 to in a previous video, so maybe that explains it) wasn't included in even the top 15. Surely it deserves to be somewhere in there.
Haha that does explain it. Gotta stand by your guns (and your unpopular but correct opinions, we love fighting and dying on this particular hill). Fear is the mind killer is the best line in all of sci fi tho
Great list! Here’s my top 10 scifi books/series it’s somewhat a basic list lol Honorable Mentions: Starship Troopers by Heinlein, A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, Slaughterhouse 5 by Vonnegut, and 1984 by Orwell 10. Sun Eater by Christopher Ruochhio 9. The Road by Cormac McCarthy 8. Nights Dawn Trilogy by Peter F Hamilton 7. Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds 6. Blindsight by Peter Watts 5. The Cruel Stars by John Birmingham (unfinished series but should be) 4. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K Dick 3. The Forever War Joe Haldeman 2. The Gap Cycle by Stephen Donaldson 1. Dune by Frank Herbert
Thank you for recognising the goat Carl Sagan when no one else does. A brief note (because I can't help myself) De Grasse Tyson is today's Carl Sagan, not the other way around, and still he doesn't even come close.
When Asimov and Heinlein were writing books for young people back in the day, they were called 'Juveniles'. That later got remarketed as YA. The first book that started the YA category is generally accepted to be The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton, published in 1967. YA is pitched a little older than the old 'Juveniles' category, but there's overlap.
Juveniles by these authors are not the same as YA and people who call them YA don't know what they are talking about, sorry to be blunt. Heinlein's juveniles are essentially propaganda, aimed at the "moral formation" of specifically white American boys, basically to indoctrinate them against leftism, progressivism and especially socialism/communism (and I remind you that this was a time when communism was strongly associated with Black people and Jews in the white American mind, so there is a hefty undercurrent of racism and antisemitism even if it's not obvious to today's readers). Starship Troopers was a rejected juvenile novel that had to be published separately from his previous juveniles novels so it's often not considered one, even despite Heinlein fully intended it to be read as his other juveniles. YA is a newer genre, intended from its emergence to be diverse and inclusive, to meet younger audiences where they are, rather than tell them what kind of person society expects them to be.
It’s an amazing list and I’ll definitely check it out later. If I have a recommendation for a sci-fi book, it’s definitely The Maze Runner series. It’s more a dystopian story than a sci-fi, but it’s one of the greatest series I’ve ever read and seen. Definitely recommend it!
I've read so many books, and unfortunately so few of them stick with me through time. I can wholeheartedly recommend most books by Philip K. Dick. He's an amazing writer. There's one trilogy I recall, that had me reading through it with such ease and eagerness because the story was very compelling, despite it being over 3000 pages in total: Peter F. Hamilton's 'The Night's Dawn Trilogy'. A space opera. Be warned, don't read anything about it online (like wikipedia), because it may spill a major reveal that the writer keeps hidden until the third book, when you're already over 2000 pages in.
I've wanted to check out the Vorkosigan saga for a while, and you guys just made a case for using Barrayar as a starting point. Also want to try C.J. Cherryh, and still haven't read Left Hand of Darkness, although The Dispossessed and Word for World are astoundingly good. Great video. Looking forward to Mountain in the Sea!
Great list! And I love how we can scroll back and CLEARLY hear him say "1997" and "1995." And I just ordered "Exhalation" based on this video. I hadn't heard of it before so thank you!
Just rewatched your video and once again I thoroughly enjoyed it. If we're including dystopian novels as a sub-genre of science fiction, shouldn't Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, and 1984 deserve consideration for the top 15?
That’s very true! 1984 probably deserves a spot in my personal top 15 not that you mention that (this is Brent). Cody’s fave dystopia is handmaids tale so maybe that would make his personal list
White hat, you have a really authentic persona and were very enjoyable to watch. The other guy, I'm sorry but your authenticity was only present when you were thinking more deliberately about what concept you were trying to identify, but as soon as you got past those moments I could see you throw a switch almost telling you you should be smiling in a moment. That being said I appreciated what both of you had to say and there are books on this list I haven't read yet and will be trying to get to. I agree with your favourite storylines on Hyperion as well, the emotional trauma of the scholar was just mind boggling and the priest's strength of will was insanity. Hyperion was great, I like Endymion more than Fall of Hyperion so far, currently in the middle of the series, but even though there's a gap in time I'd say that it's still a series
Meh. People smile for different reasons. Imo he's smiling to let you know he's not being sincere. It's a different type of authenticity. This is my first time watching but I enjoyed both hosts.
Nice list I must say. And not that I agree or disagree with your picks but solely because it gave me some interesting TBR´s to look into :). This is your list and not mine but maybe some of your best will be my best. Thanks guys.
Interesting video. Maybe do a top ten honorable mentions. I would have included Dune, and maybe The Stars My Destination by Bester. I've read The Forever War and Starship Troopers. Currently reading Hyperion. #1 was a surpise. Thanks.
@@hugonautspod I want to read more of his work. I’ll make A Scanner Darkly the next one. I read Do androids dream of Electric Sheep? And Man in the High Castle.
Am I the only person that doesn't rate the Three Body Problem? I found it to be pretty tedious. Anyhow just added The Road to my reading list, never heard of it but looks great. Thanks guys!
You’re not alone. I thought the first book in this series was god awful and childish. Curious to see the trainwreck, I kept reading and found the 2nd and 3rd book enjoyable for the big sci-fi ideas in them.
The ones I've read ================================= The Road Starship Troopers The Forever War Hyperion Left Hand of Darkness Ender's Game TBR ================================= Three Body Problem Barrayar (I've read the first 5 books so far) Exhalation Snow Crash How are these missing? ================================= Dune Stanger in a Strange Land The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Childhoods End The Children of Time Anathem Ringworld
No Asimov either! When it got down to ranking individual books no one book of theirs quite made it, despite liking lots of their stuff. It’s also very hard to be timeless with sci fi
Wait? Snow Crash but no Neuromancer. You understand that EVEN NEAL HIMSELF who wrote snow crash has does interviews claiming Gibson's neuromancer is superior.
I have to reread Neuromancer in english, it sucked butt in Swedish. Snow crash has awesome ideas, but it is so obvious that he tried to bee cool, and write for the teenagers of the time, with the super scateboard pizza delivery bs, that ruined the book for me.
Great list there, but I'm surprised Frank Herbert's Dune didn't even make the cut, especially when it is the top scifi novel of all time. Also, isn't The Handmaid's Tale considered speculative fiction and not science fiction, as Margaret Atwood stated? The top 10 lists are the highlight on your channel!
You gotta stand by your beliefs and we’re big DIPGBNF guys. (Dune is pretty good but not fantastic). Love the new movie though! Top sci fi novel by what metric? Handmaids Tale, for instance, has more than half as many readers again on good reads. And we think Margaret Atwood is amazing but also being pretentious when she says she doesn’t write sci fi (and which we called her out for in our handmaids tale episode)
My 10. Red Mars The Martian Snow Crash A Scanner Darkly Starship Troopers. Jurassic Park. Dune. Three Body Problem Series. A Darkling Sea Children of Time. Bonus: Favorite indy: There is No Antimemetics Division
@@hugonautspod A Darkling Sea is about as hard SF of a space opera as can be. Sure they have to get there by FTL, but once on the planet, everything is realistic.
I sense a theme here of philosophical themed sci fi. Many of these are kind of boring and not on an epic scale bar a couple. My own list would go 15. House of Suns 14. Red Mars 13. Ilium 12. Spin 11. Nueromancer 10. Do androids dream ... 9. Children of time 8. Revelation Space 7. The Algebrist 6. The Prefect/aurora rising 5. Roadside picnic 4. A fire upon the deep 3. Seveneves 2. Hyperion 1. DUNE
Fun video, as always. I’ll have to consider what my specific top 10 are, though representative from the Ender Quartet, Hyperion Cantos, and Remembrance of Earth’s Past would be included
Yea it’s blasphemy Dune isn’t on this list. I understand it’s your list and you guys were not the biggest fan. I’ve read about half of these and own 13 of them. Looks like I need to get to reading the others. Looking forward to the smart octopus with too many story ideas book discussion.
Haha we’re proud blasphemers then. For a little extra blasphemy we think the new movie is better than the book. Denis did it better, heard it hear first folks, bring your pitchforks
@hugonautspod umm Ender's Game? I remember reading that book when I was a child. When I was a child! And if you read Zelazny and Vance you'd know better. But hey too each his own..
Very strange some of your top 5 doesn't made my top 50. I like fe Ender's Game but I can't see why so many have it so high Some of my favourites UBIK Solaris Ringworld The Stars My Destination Citizen of the Galaxy The City And the Stars Roadside Picnic Santiago The Lord of Light Slaughterhouse Five The Gods Themselves
We've read almost all those! Some really good ones there, just didn't quite make our top-top list. We've got related but not quite exactly the same taste, sounds like
The road. Havent read it, but i did warch the movie. This is actually the first time ive heard of the book. But im definatly confused about the sci sfi part . It seemed like a very dreary, and realistic take on the collapse of society. They spent basically the whole movie starving, and making sure they werent being followed. The father takes zero chances on anything. The skightest notion of danger aka people, they leave. Everyone they came into contact with 2 exceptions; results in a shoot out, killing; lucky ones got robbed for every single thing every article of clothing. Like the guy they leave loke that because he stole from them. As well as an argument of "why were you following me? How long have you been following me? In reality most people were just starving, and wanderinf around. But they are all so paranoid theh cant fathom the idea of coming across anither wanderer whose also starving. Children are especially vulnerable. But nothing in that movie was sci-fi. So im wondering how different the book is. I wouldnt call the walking dead scifi, and that has zombies in it. This just people and some dogs. Mostly adult men, very few children, not to many women. If anyone can offer some incite on the book please do i dont care about spoilers.
Post-apocalyptic stuff is generally classed as sci-fi. Check out our episode on The Road if you wanna learn more! ua-cam.com/video/sfXOTTM82E8/v-deo.html
@@BeneficialBacteriaI get it. But there is a difference between not liking Dune and saying that Ancillary Justice and Exhalation are better than it. There are books I don’t like, but I can still recognize that they are better than books I do like
I loved Dune, but it was mostly the feel of it, ancillary justice is better on every level, so is Children o Time, my all time favorite. I would not put up Dune on my top ten. I dont understand peoples infatuation with Hyperion, it was good, but the Ending ruined it, I would not put it on my top ten Either. Many of the Strugatsky Brothers books are better than Dune, So is Solaris by Lem. There are several books by Philip K Dick that are better than dune, or Slaughterhouse 5 is better than Dune, for example.
OMG how could you guys pick The Road. It is not the best post apocalyptic book. I read this book in school and wrote my annotation full of reasons why it was not believable to me. Mccormick is an author that just like's to shock with no common sense or reasonable reality. So many things in it that took me out of the "suspension of disbelief" -- as a person who stores up food and wild harvest plants, he had so many common every day things wrong, especially when it came to food like the rotten apples on the ground or the mushrooms or the canned food. For one, if you eat bad food in canned jars you die from botulism within hours. You don't get just sick like eating spoiled food. You picked Margaret Atwood's book The Handmaid Tale, but another of hers, Oryx and Crake is a much better post apocalyptic book.
No Dune Boo!!! A great list overall. Here is something random. When I read Enders Game I viewed the video games within as Looking like a game would in 85. The final battle had a very 'life force ' style look in my mind. The game in 3 Body Problem has a very 'Fornite' type of graphics to it.
Denis did it better! See our embarrassingly low production quality first video on how we think Dune is important but not our fave: ua-cam.com/video/FYbfwiCW5tA/v-deo.html
Some good choices, eg Ender's Game, Forever War, Hyperion. Like many others I'm shocked by the omission of Dune. What about Iain Banks? His books are amazing, though it is hard to pick just one to crack this list (maybe The Player of Games).
A marvelous list! My only quibble is that Dune (a book that you two gave a 3 out of 5 to in a previous video, so maybe that explains it) wasn't included in even the top 15. Surely it deserves to be somewhere in there.
Haha that does explain it. Gotta stand by your guns (and your unpopular but correct opinions, we love fighting and dying on this particular hill). Fear is the mind killer is the best line in all of sci fi tho
Great list! Here’s my top 10 scifi books/series it’s somewhat a basic list lol
Honorable Mentions: Starship Troopers by Heinlein, A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, Slaughterhouse 5 by Vonnegut, and 1984 by Orwell
10. Sun Eater by Christopher Ruochhio
9. The Road by Cormac McCarthy
8. Nights Dawn Trilogy by Peter F Hamilton
7. Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
6. Blindsight by Peter Watts
5. The Cruel Stars by John Birmingham (unfinished series but should be)
4. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K Dick
3. The Forever War Joe Haldeman
2. The Gap Cycle by Stephen Donaldson
1. Dune by Frank Herbert
These are great - and a bunch we hadn’t heard of too, thanks for the recs!
We have very similar taste, please sell me Blindsight. I'm a third in and I can't continue I understand nothing so far 😅
Hyperion is my No 1 as well. Children of Time didn’t make the list, but that is my No 2
HYPERION as well #1
Thank you for recognising the goat Carl Sagan when no one else does. A brief note (because I can't help myself) De Grasse Tyson is today's Carl Sagan, not the other way around, and still he doesn't even come close.
Oh we wholeheartedly agree. Neil is not filling those shoes
I've used Ender's Game as the gateway drug for 12 year old boys who are readers but aren't into SF yet. This'll do it.
Gotta love a good SF gateway drug
When Asimov and Heinlein were writing books for young people back in the day, they were called 'Juveniles'. That later got remarketed as YA. The first book that started the YA category is generally accepted to be The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton, published in 1967. YA is pitched a little older than the old 'Juveniles' category, but there's overlap.
This is so interesting! So glad to finally know the origins of this.
PS the Outsiders is amazing.
Juveniles by these authors are not the same as YA and people who call them YA don't know what they are talking about, sorry to be blunt. Heinlein's juveniles are essentially propaganda, aimed at the "moral formation" of specifically white American boys, basically to indoctrinate them against leftism, progressivism and especially socialism/communism (and I remind you that this was a time when communism was strongly associated with Black people and Jews in the white American mind, so there is a hefty undercurrent of racism and antisemitism even if it's not obvious to today's readers). Starship Troopers was a rejected juvenile novel that had to be published separately from his previous juveniles novels so it's often not considered one, even despite Heinlein fully intended it to be read as his other juveniles. YA is a newer genre, intended from its emergence to be diverse and inclusive, to meet younger audiences where they are, rather than tell them what kind of person society expects them to be.
Was expecting Children of Time or Blindsight to make the list but I added a few of these books I haven't read to my TBR. Thanks for the video!
Of course, glad you liked!
Hyperion is my favorite book period. Higher than 8 IMO
Great (and surprising) choice for no.1. One of my all time favourites. I was so expecting Dune.
Glad you liked! The world doesn’t seem like it needs more dune recommendations
@@hugonautspod as much as I love Dune I totally agree 😀
It’s an amazing list and I’ll definitely check it out later. If I have a recommendation for a sci-fi book, it’s definitely The Maze Runner series. It’s more a dystopian story than a sci-fi, but it’s one of the greatest series I’ve ever read and seen. Definitely recommend it!
For sure, maybe we should have included that in our best dystopias episode we just released last week, we'll have to check it out!
Surprised you omitted Gateway and also that there were no books included by J G Ballard. Still, good stuff.
I've read so many books, and unfortunately so few of them stick with me through time.
I can wholeheartedly recommend most books by Philip K. Dick. He's an amazing writer.
There's one trilogy I recall, that had me reading through it with such ease and eagerness because the story was very compelling, despite it being over 3000 pages in total:
Peter F. Hamilton's 'The Night's Dawn Trilogy'. A space opera. Be warned, don't read anything about it online (like wikipedia), because it may spill a major reveal that the writer keeps hidden until the third book, when you're already over 2000 pages in.
Cody really loved the void trilogy by Peter F Hamilton - we’re excited to check more out, thanks for the rec!
I've wanted to check out the Vorkosigan saga for a while, and you guys just made a case for using Barrayar as a starting point. Also want to try C.J. Cherryh, and still haven't read Left Hand of Darkness, although The Dispossessed and Word for World are astoundingly good. Great video. Looking forward to Mountain in the Sea!
Brent really liked CJ Cherryh! Cody not so much, so your mileage may vary. Glad you liked!
Don't get your hopes up, I found it like a childish adventure
Great list! And I love how we can scroll back and CLEARLY hear him say "1997" and "1995." And I just ordered "Exhalation" based on this video. I hadn't heard of it before so thank you!
Hope you love it - always an amazing ride with Ted Chiang!
Top 2 are my absolute favorite books. Great list
Just rewatched your video and once again I thoroughly enjoyed it. If we're including dystopian novels as a sub-genre of science fiction, shouldn't Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, and 1984 deserve consideration for the top 15?
That’s very true! 1984 probably deserves a spot in my personal top 15 not that you mention that (this is Brent). Cody’s fave dystopia is handmaids tale so maybe that would make his personal list
White hat, you have a really authentic persona and were very enjoyable to watch. The other guy, I'm sorry but your authenticity was only present when you were thinking more deliberately about what concept you were trying to identify, but as soon as you got past those moments I could see you throw a switch almost telling you you should be smiling in a moment. That being said I appreciated what both of you had to say and there are books on this list I haven't read yet and will be trying to get to. I agree with your favourite storylines on Hyperion as well, the emotional trauma of the scholar was just mind boggling and the priest's strength of will was insanity. Hyperion was great, I like Endymion more than Fall of Hyperion so far, currently in the middle of the series, but even though there's a gap in time I'd say that it's still a series
Meh. People smile for different reasons. Imo he's smiling to let you know he's not being sincere. It's a different type of authenticity. This is my first time watching but I enjoyed both hosts.
Interesting that Fire Upon and Blindsight aren't included, given that you were really into them.
We love them both but not quite enough to make the all time list! Narrowing down to 10 was impossible and even 15 was very hard.
Nice list I must say. And not that I agree or disagree with your picks but solely because it gave me some interesting TBR´s to look into :). This is your list and not mine but maybe some of your best will be my best. Thanks guys.
Glad you liked!
Interesting video. Maybe do a top ten honorable mentions. I would have included Dune, and maybe The Stars My Destination by Bester. I've read The Forever War and Starship Troopers. Currently reading Hyperion. #1 was a surpise. Thanks.
Love that idea! We def had a whole crop of books that we love that just couldn’t make the story list.
13:25 They had power armor in Starship Troopers, as well.
I’ve read two Philip K. Dick books and was super impressed with them.
We love dick!
@@hugonautspod I want to read more of his work. I’ll make A Scanner Darkly the next one. I read Do androids dream of Electric Sheep? And Man in the High Castle.
@@thomaswilkerson6295 Nice, obviously we love that one! We loved Androids + Sheep too, man in the high castle not so much.
I read the prologue of Hyperion and happily dropped it.
I would include Silo, I consumed that story like chocolate and it stuck with me. Great list❤
Our next episode is about the silo series actually! Keep a look out for it on November 12
You guys should read the Galactic Milleu trilogy + Saga of the exiles + Intervention by Julian May.
Haven't read any Julian May yet - we'll have to check her out!
Really good list!
Am I the only person that doesn't rate the Three Body Problem? I found it to be pretty tedious. Anyhow just added The Road to my reading list, never heard of it but looks great. Thanks guys!
You’re not alone. I thought the first book in this series was god awful and childish. Curious to see the trainwreck, I kept reading and found the 2nd and 3rd book enjoyable for the big sci-fi ideas in them.
Might have to wiki the plots in the other two books, not sure I could actually read them all the way through after the first one :)@@Subbacultcha
Cheers, hope you love it!
The ones I've read
=================================
The Road
Starship Troopers
The Forever War
Hyperion
Left Hand of Darkness
Ender's Game
TBR
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Three Body Problem
Barrayar (I've read the first 5 books so far)
Exhalation
Snow Crash
How are these missing?
=================================
Dune
Stanger in a Strange Land
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Childhoods End
The Children of Time
Anathem
Ringworld
I'm actually floored there's not any Arthur C. Clarke on this list. Floored.
No Asimov either! When it got down to ranking individual books no one book of theirs quite made it, despite liking lots of their stuff. It’s also very hard to be timeless with sci fi
he did say 1997.
Hyperion 1 & 2
The Left Hand of Darkness
Foundation trilogy
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Forever War (book 1 only)
Great list
Wait? Snow Crash but no Neuromancer.
You understand that EVEN NEAL HIMSELF who wrote snow crash has does interviews claiming Gibson's neuromancer is superior.
Hahah well that’s humble of him but Snow Crash is just too fun not to love. Sci fi always takes itself so seriously, we just love the silliness
I have to reread Neuromancer in english, it sucked butt in Swedish. Snow crash has awesome ideas, but it is so obvious that he tried to bee cool, and write for the teenagers of the time, with the super scateboard pizza delivery bs, that ruined the book for me.
Great list there, but I'm surprised Frank Herbert's Dune didn't even make the cut, especially when it is the top scifi novel of all time. Also, isn't The Handmaid's Tale considered speculative fiction and not science fiction, as Margaret Atwood stated? The top 10 lists are the highlight on your channel!
You gotta stand by your beliefs and we’re big DIPGBNF guys. (Dune is pretty good but not fantastic). Love the new movie though!
Top sci fi novel by what metric? Handmaids Tale, for instance, has more than half as many readers again on good reads. And we think Margaret Atwood is amazing but also being pretentious when she says she doesn’t write sci fi (and which we called her out for in our handmaids tale episode)
My 10.
Red Mars
The Martian
Snow Crash
A Scanner Darkly
Starship Troopers.
Jurassic Park.
Dune.
Three Body Problem Series.
A Darkling Sea
Children of Time.
Bonus: Favorite indy: There is No Antimemetics Division
Great list - we haven’t read A Darkling Sea, we’ll have to check it out!
@@hugonautspod A Darkling Sea is about as hard SF of a space opera as can be. Sure they have to get there by FTL, but once on the planet, everything is realistic.
Thanks for that, guys.
You bet!
I sense a theme here of philosophical themed sci fi. Many of these are kind of boring and not on an epic scale bar a couple. My own list would go
15. House of Suns
14. Red Mars
13. Ilium
12. Spin
11. Nueromancer
10. Do androids dream ...
9. Children of time
8. Revelation Space
7. The Algebrist
6. The Prefect/aurora rising
5. Roadside picnic
4. A fire upon the deep
3. Seveneves
2. Hyperion
1. DUNE
Fun video, as always. I’ll have to consider what my specific top 10 are, though representative from the Ender Quartet, Hyperion Cantos, and Remembrance of Earth’s Past would be included
Yea it’s blasphemy Dune isn’t on this list. I understand it’s your list and you guys were not the biggest fan. I’ve read about half of these and own 13 of them. Looks like I need to get to reading the others. Looking forward to the smart octopus with too many story ideas book discussion.
Haha we’re proud blasphemers then. For a little extra blasphemy we think the new movie is better than the book. Denis did it better, heard it hear first folks, bring your pitchforks
No Jack Vance. No Roger Zelazny. Yeah sure okay. And Ender's Game? Really? Egad.
We’ve read Zelazny and Vance, sounds like you liked em a little more than we did!
@hugonautspod umm Ender's Game? I remember reading that book when I was a child. When I was a child! And if you read Zelazny and Vance you'd know better. But hey too each his own..
Very strange some of your top 5 doesn't made my top 50. I like fe Ender's Game but I can't see why so many have it so high
Some of my favourites
UBIK
Solaris
Ringworld
The Stars My Destination
Citizen of the Galaxy
The City And the Stars
Roadside Picnic
Santiago
The Lord of Light
Slaughterhouse Five
The Gods Themselves
We've read almost all those! Some really good ones there, just didn't quite make our top-top list. We've got related but not quite exactly the same taste, sounds like
The road. Havent read it, but i did warch the movie. This is actually the first time ive heard of the book. But im definatly confused about the sci sfi part . It seemed like a very dreary, and realistic take on the collapse of society. They spent basically the whole movie starving, and making sure they werent being followed. The father takes zero chances on anything. The skightest notion of danger aka people, they leave. Everyone they came into contact with 2 exceptions; results in a shoot out, killing; lucky ones got robbed for every single thing every article of clothing. Like the guy they leave loke that because he stole from them. As well as an argument of "why were you following me? How long have you been following me? In reality most people were just starving, and wanderinf around. But they are all so paranoid theh cant fathom the idea of coming across anither wanderer whose also starving. Children are especially vulnerable. But nothing in that movie was sci-fi. So im wondering how different the book is. I wouldnt call the walking dead scifi, and that has zombies in it. This just people and some dogs. Mostly adult men, very few children, not to many women. If anyone can offer some incite on the book please do i dont care about spoilers.
Post-apocalyptic stuff is generally classed as sci-fi. Check out our episode on The Road if you wanna learn more! ua-cam.com/video/sfXOTTM82E8/v-deo.html
Hugonauts?...
...wasn't that an old name for Protestants in France during the Renaissance?
Sure was! They spelled it with much more Frenchness though
I'm sorry, but a world does not exist in which books like Snow Crash, Exhalation, and Ancillary Justice are better than Dune
i agree but Dune is also super super unusual and i can totally understand someone not liking it
@@BeneficialBacteriaI get it. But there is a difference between not liking Dune and saying that Ancillary Justice and Exhalation are better than it. There are books I don’t like, but I can still recognize that they are better than books I do like
That world does exist, here we are living it! Does the world really need more Dune recommendations?
@@hugonautspodI didn’t consider this a recommendation list. I thought it was simply the best
I loved Dune, but it was mostly the feel of it, ancillary justice is better on every level, so is Children o Time, my all time favorite. I would not put up Dune on my top ten. I dont understand peoples infatuation with Hyperion, it was good, but the Ending ruined it, I would not put it on my top ten Either. Many of the Strugatsky Brothers books are better than Dune, So is Solaris by Lem. There are several books by Philip K Dick that are better than dune, or Slaughterhouse 5 is better than Dune, for example.
Guys vernor vinge a fire upon the deep
We love Fire Upon the Deep! Just not quite enough to make our all time faves list. ua-cam.com/video/z5jTNUSIR18/v-deo.html
No Dune?
Dune? Never heard of it
@@hugonautspod Well that IS illuminating!
ua-cam.com/video/FYbfwiCW5tA/v-deo.html@@bpuryea
OMG how could you guys pick The Road. It is not the best post apocalyptic book. I read this book in school and wrote my annotation full of reasons why it was not believable to me. Mccormick is an author that just like's to shock with no common sense or reasonable reality.
So many things in it that took me out of the "suspension of disbelief" -- as a person who stores up food and wild harvest plants, he had so many common every day things wrong, especially when it came to food like the rotten apples on the ground or the mushrooms or the canned food. For one, if you eat bad food in canned jars you die from botulism within hours. You don't get just sick like eating spoiled food.
You picked Margaret Atwood's book The Handmaid Tale, but another of hers, Oryx and Crake is a much better post apocalyptic book.
No Dune Boo!!! A great list overall. Here is something random. When I read Enders Game I viewed the video games within as Looking like a game would in 85. The final battle had a very 'life force ' style look in my mind. The game in 3 Body Problem has a very 'Fornite' type of graphics to it.
BOTNS?? NOPE 🙅♂️ useless list
Just the books that were movies and tv shows? No dune anywhere? I think you made this list just for the comments
Denis did it better! See our embarrassingly low production quality first video on how we think Dune is important but not our fave: ua-cam.com/video/FYbfwiCW5tA/v-deo.html
Dune????
Denis did it better, ya heard it hear first
What about Hamilton, who after the tragic early death of Iain Banks, is probably the best SF writer currently?
We’ve read some of both, but none we’ve liked enough to quite make this list. What are your favorite Hamilton books?
@@hugonautspod The Void series are his best works in my opinion
Some good choices, eg Ender's Game, Forever War, Hyperion. Like many others I'm shocked by the omission of Dune. What about Iain Banks? His books are amazing, though it is hard to pick just one to crack this list (maybe The Player of Games).
We’ve gotta read more! We read consider phlebas and didn’t much like it, but people say that’s the weakest of the series, so we gotta go back
@@hugonautspod Try Excession, Matter, or Call to Windward.
Have to agree, Banks is amazing, Use of Weapons and Player of Games are probably the best options.
@@mlong6073 Great books. Player of Games is a big favourite
Do you guys even read sci-fi ?
Na we've just made dozens of episodes about it to troll you specifically