10 vs 15 vs 12: Does bass speaker size matter?

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  • In this video, I we compare 10 inch, 15 inch, and 12 inch speakers for bass amps. We are using Ampeg's new Venture series of amplifiers and cabinets to examine the pros and cons of different speaker sizes for pro bass players. How much does bass speaker size actually matter?
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  • @philipconradmusic
    @philipconradmusic  4 місяці тому +23

    I’m currently working on a follow up video with a similar experiment from the audience perspective further away from the cab. I’ll post it here when it’s ready. Thanks so much for watching and all the thoughtful comments ⚡️

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому

      Here it is:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

  • @SteveTheBassGuy
    @SteveTheBassGuy 4 місяці тому +166

    To my ear the 15” is the best.

    • @RobertAcurso
      @RobertAcurso 4 місяці тому +5

      Playing solo I want the 15, for sure.

    • @basshoncho
      @basshoncho 4 місяці тому

      Agreed! @SteveTheBassGuy

    • @flaviosan3020
      @flaviosan3020 4 місяці тому +1

      15" matches his style and genre of music for me.

    • @flaviosan3020
      @flaviosan3020 4 місяці тому +1

      15" matches his style and genre of music for me.

    • @flaviosan3020
      @flaviosan3020 4 місяці тому

      15" matches his style and genre of music for me.

  • @OsmarOliveira
    @OsmarOliveira 4 місяці тому +54

    Nice comparison! The 1x15" sounds great, but I think the 4x10" can deliver as much bass as the 1x15" in the room. The mic is isolating just one 10" speaker, so is not quite the same thing as the whole cabinet working together. That being said, the 12" response was great as well.

    • @stanpopovsky
      @stanpopovsky 4 місяці тому +3

      For recording or performing in a medium to large venue, only the sound from one speaker matters.

    • @Steve-fe3vt
      @Steve-fe3vt 4 місяці тому

      That's true the whole cabinet sound and the room acoustics make a difference. I have done this test myself without the microphone and the 15 sounds better.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому +1

      Here’s a follow up video from audience perspective in a venue:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

    • @OsmarOliveira
      @OsmarOliveira 3 місяці тому

      Very cool@@philipconradmusic ! Thanks for these videos.

  • @wojtan
    @wojtan 4 місяці тому +1

    Clearly the best review I have seen in a long time. Thanks, man

  • @alexbarbermusic
    @alexbarbermusic 4 місяці тому +17

    Awesome video dude, love the EQ overlay you do on your videos. Something I do all the time when I'm deep in the tone zone. 15" for me

  • @leegallatin480
    @leegallatin480 4 місяці тому +17

    Such a well done video . I loved the frequency chart showing as you were playing , I was nerding out on that. No other guys doing these types of videos are showing the actual math/science of things.
    This 2x12 won me over , plus it looks like a mini fridge . I will be ordering one soon.
    Thanks for the share .

  • @Mrpsblobsoflowendmung
    @Mrpsblobsoflowendmung 4 місяці тому +21

    Yup the 15” is without a doubt the best !
    I used 8x10s for years until I got my first B15 20 years ago and have been using 15” speakers ever since .

    • @JasDarc
      @JasDarc 4 місяці тому +2

      60 years bass playing and I wouldn't play through anything less than a 15. (Currently a Markbass Jeff Berlin combo. Tried their 2x10 and it just farted at anything like a usable volume. No thanks keep yer baby speakers.

  • @adamsambach-swomley6558
    @adamsambach-swomley6558 4 місяці тому +9

    Watching a new Philip Conrad video always puts me in the mood to play bass.

  • @IvanovBR
    @IvanovBR 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video! I’ve been planning something like this for years. But now you nailed it!!!!

  • @unaufadox-productions
    @unaufadox-productions 22 дні тому +1

    Really great video man. Great setup great recording all around nice work also love the Logic EQ over the screen nice touch !

  • @BassRacerx
    @BassRacerx 4 місяці тому

    Thank you ampeg for more media! Love your products and have been using them for 15 years. Glad ampeg is releasing more product finally! I would love it if ampeg made more 4 ohm cabinets! so many lightweight amps but to get the maximum power output you need a 4ohm cab! a 2x10 or a 1x15 in 4 ohms would be great.

  • @dylangoode9393
    @dylangoode9393 4 місяці тому

    The content I’ve been craving, thank you!

  • @mdk488
    @mdk488 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for making this video. I learned a lot, and it’s going to make my next cab purchase very easy.

  • @BobbyPoulton
    @BobbyPoulton 4 місяці тому +8

    Great video man. The close micing definitely favoured the 1x15. It would have been interesting to do a comparison from different points in the room you're in.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому

      Here’s a follow up video from audience perspective in a venue:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

  • @TheStratpicker
    @TheStratpicker 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video. As an old school rock player, mainly finger style, the 15" floated my boat regardless of my gigging combo being a Rumble 200 (15" speaker) hooked up to another 15" cab when I need to move more air. This cab is usually driven by an Ampeg Micro VR in the rehearsal studio and sounds fantastic. The Rumble is just so portable and loud...

  • @monarch_music
    @monarch_music 4 місяці тому +26

    Long time recording engineer here -- and I know that what I am about to say is rarely/if ever taken into account while recording and playing live. The fundamental frequency on the low E string is 41.2035 Hz -- which makes the physical wavelength of one wave cycle 27.425 ft. long! That's a long distance for the note to fully. develop. I'd love to see a test where you mic'd up the cabs exactly one wavelength away as it might yield some interesting results. Also, this means in a live setting, you could potentially hear a bass amp "better "at a slightly lower volume off stage than it would be right next to you.

    • @Robert_G_Ortega
      @Robert_G_Ortega 4 місяці тому +1

      This engineer is, correct and other postings. Distance and room size is most important but also the box fitting the speaker size, so would this test be truthful.

    • @johnk190
      @johnk190 3 місяці тому +2

      If that was true then you'd never get any bass out of headphones. Yes, bass wavelengths are very long but the idea they need space to 'develope' is nonsense, though rooms can reinforced certain frequencies with standing waves.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому

      Here’s a follow up video from audience perspective in a venue:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

  • @costajeanfrancois7234
    @costajeanfrancois7234 3 місяці тому +4

    the DI sounds great. I didn't expect that

  • @conorlarkin1111
    @conorlarkin1111 4 місяці тому +26

    Cool video! I’m not normally an Ampeg guy, but the tones you got here were some of my favorites of yours so far! I actually found the 4x10 to be the muddiest. I think because it lacked a bit of midrange to my ear, and the 2x12 was my favorite since it seemed to have the most mids.
    I totally agree with your conclusion of those Ampeg cabs specifically, but I think one important thing to note is that there are HiFi sounding 15’s and vintage sounding 4x10’s. The speaker size is just one of the many things that can affect the sound of the cabinet. Speaker choice, speaker efficiency, cab design, cab material, cab rigidity, porting, etc. all play a significant role in the overall sound of the cab.
    It’s kind of like saying Fender guitars all sound bright and Gibson guitars all sound dark. It’s an okay generalization, but definitely not a rule. All in my opinion, of course!

  • @AJMjazz
    @AJMjazz 4 місяці тому +4

    Though I have a B-15 and have used it on a number of gigs, my main rig has included 12s for the better part of 35 years. Single 12, dual 12, four 12 - as you said the flexibility is a great advantage. The 12's have never let me down.
    Great video.

  • @nj1255
    @nj1255 4 місяці тому +47

    I'm more of a 10" guy. I just like the punch you get from 10" speakers, but it also largely depends on what kind of tone you are after. For that vintage P-bass + B15 tone you really need to have a 15" speaker.

    • @jamessmith-zk4co
      @jamessmith-zk4co 4 місяці тому +1

      I love the sound of the 10's.

    • @BungHunterSV650
      @BungHunterSV650 4 місяці тому

      i use a 1 x 15 and a 2 x 10 with a mark bass head i geat a great tone i will put up videos someday lol

    • @pangeaproxima3681
      @pangeaproxima3681 4 місяці тому

      ok, ok...

    • @bassyey
      @bassyey 3 місяці тому

      I like 10" on guitar.

    • @nj1255
      @nj1255 3 місяці тому

      @@bassyey on clean strat-tones they can sound really good.

  • @thewetterbass
    @thewetterbass 4 місяці тому +4

    Cool review and great advice! You make the 15” sound awesome (this coming from a 12” user)! I agree with you, having an amp “pushing” air on your back is just the best feeling…

    • @williamscalzitti217
      @williamscalzitti217 4 місяці тому +1

      i think there is a basic problem with this test, the mic in front of one 10" is 1/4 the power going into the 15 and half the 12s, the difference in volume (i think) skews the test.

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald2861 3 місяці тому

    I bought a separate pair of 12" speaker cabs for exactly the reasons you mention at 5:32. I made the decision based primarily on weight considerations, but the ability to use the full power of the amp turned out to be a huge bonus that I did not expect.

  • @michaelanthony9068
    @michaelanthony9068 4 місяці тому +1

    You affirmed my belief in my 2 seperate 12’s. I agree they are a nice hybrid of both the lows in the 15” and the crispness in the 10’s. I was surprised though by the brightness of the DI. Wow. Thank you, great video.

  • @mattcollier4767
    @mattcollier4767 4 місяці тому +10

    Excellent information! I run a 2x10 + 1x15 in my rig. Best of both worlds in my opinion. This video definitely has me itching to try some new settings!

  • @dinoduprey6676
    @dinoduprey6676 4 місяці тому

    Hi Philip, I own and use the Ampeg BA115 .. I grew up with Ampeg since I was a youngster when my brothers had their band in the 60's .. I also inherited his 1961 Ampeg AEB-1 and the heavy transformers on the Ampeg B-18N, the 2 together sounds amazing.. The BA115 cuts through every genre and so much lighter, which I use at every event.. Love my Ampeg BA115.. Best wishes for the New Year Philip..🎸🤟

  • @jaceychan7099
    @jaceychan7099 4 місяці тому +2

    Wow dude I’m so glad you did this I’ve been a bass player probably longer than you’ve been alive but the choice of speakers and amp makes big difference because I like to occupy the lowest end of the spectrum I like a weighty beefy and heavy sound but I also like my snaps, pops and runs to be legible and I chased the sound in my head for years and even though I started my journey with a peavey 2x15 cab and it gave what I wanted speaker wise but my pops and snaps weren’t legible and a smaller speaker didn’t give me what I wanted either so after years going down the rabbit hole I realized that I need a 15” on the bottom and a 4x10 cab on top and an amp head with some balls so I found it interesting hearing the same part being played through different speakers I could’ve used this information back in 1976 when I started this journey 😎

  • @dchauser4
    @dchauser4 4 місяці тому +11

    Good video as always. When I roll out the full rig (which happens very rarely anymore), I have a 4x10 and a 1x15 to get the best of both worlds. My back, however, definitely prefers the straight DI option. I do think you're correct about the classic tone being the 1x15.

    • @briangordon2208
      @briangordon2208 4 місяці тому +2

      All around best config is 2x10" and a 1x15. I just bought a new Ampeg PF-500 and it is LIGHT and plenty of power and TONE!

  • @meyersguitars2196
    @meyersguitars2196 4 місяці тому +1

    You took the words out of my mouth when you said the 10’s sounded more like the DI. I was thinking the same thing. The 15 has the most character but 10’s just sound right to my ears. Great video!

  • @BruceRichardsonMusic
    @BruceRichardsonMusic 4 місяці тому +1

    The two separate 12" boxes option is exactly what I use, a couple of Bergantino HT112er, to be exact. I love the mini-stack configuration, but can use only one for a rehearsal. And they really bring the hi-fi sound, but can warm right up with a little tube emulation.

  • @John-the-Bass
    @John-the-Bass 4 місяці тому +4

    Good work. The only weakness is that the audience listens from a distance not a short distance from the speaker cone as your measurement. I agree about the air movement. The 4* 10 has a greater speaker cone area and so moves air. My favourite is the single 15”. Thanks for the video. It is very good gear!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому

      Here’s a follow up video from audience perspective in a venue:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

  • @craigridley9618
    @craigridley9618 4 місяці тому +13

    Nice! For me, it’s got to be the 15”.
    I left slap and tap in my teens , now I mostly just play fingerstyle on a p bass, and the 15 just works.
    Nice hearing you talk about re-amping, and applied studio techniques. Thanks for all the hard work!

  • @barondavis5692
    @barondavis5692 4 місяці тому

    I really liked the sound of your p bass. They all sound a bit different, but yours just fits.
    Also good explanation on the cab sizes.

  • @IggyYTube
    @IggyYTube 4 місяці тому

    Great video Philip. I love Ampeg. 15 inch is what I love the most every time again.

  • @eggy68
    @eggy68 4 місяці тому +8

    15” is certainly the sweet spot for the p-bass. I used to roll a 2x15 cab into dive bars at college and always got compliments on my tone. Compliments aside, I wouldn’t want to do that again! And you’re absolutely right, nothing beats the feeling of rocking the house in front of a big rig.

  • @derekdowns6275
    @derekdowns6275 4 місяці тому +1

    It was nice to hear this over a pair of 16" speakers. The 15" demo got my dining room window to lightly rattle as well as some items on a desk.

  • @dougbrenton8848
    @dougbrenton8848 4 місяці тому +1

    It's like you knew I was deep into my hunt for a new cab... I was already gravitating towards a 2×12 but this just confirmed it for me! I have a 4×10 that has dutifully done what I needed it to, but man oh man it's a brute! Playing with a new band I need to fill out the low mids more without being swamped, the 2×12 just sounds like the perfect jack-of-all-trades. Thanks!

    • @randyclere2330
      @randyclere2330 4 місяці тому +1

      I’ve got a 2x12 Bergantino!!! It’s the best

  • @CoffeeAndSteel
    @CoffeeAndSteel 4 місяці тому +2

    I really enjoy the punchy forwardness of 10s. Thats why I went with a Mesa Subway 2x10 and love it. Also seems like these tests would be better blind as to remove bias? Great video either way!

  • @jeffbrinkerhoff5121
    @jeffbrinkerhoff5121 4 місяці тому +1

    Higher frequency definition is more pronounced as piston area decreases. Sound is moving air so sound pressure can be equalized in different area speakers by longer cone excursion in the smaller units. All that said I'm amazed how well 5", 6", and 8" perform in the real world. Very nice video.

  • @pclindholm
    @pclindholm 4 місяці тому +12

    I love the cut of the 4x10 and the low end of the 1x15.
    You'd think 2x12 would be a good compromise, but I just can't get into the sound.

    • @hunkydorian
      @hunkydorian 4 місяці тому +1

      Funny about that. You'd think that a 32" bass would have some of the advantages of the 34" and the 30" but it doesn't work out that way.

    • @jacob.s_monarch
      @jacob.s_monarch 4 місяці тому +1

      for those who are confused by the options that they heard and cannot choose one - here is my advice: try a set of an amplifier and two cabinets 1x[1x15] + 1x[2x10] together. as for me - it works great! and now you have all the Hz range under your control on rather big stage. nice for contemporary styles. these cabinets you can find in a Hartke lines for example. as for Ampeg - for home rehearsals I use Ampeg micro-cl with 1 [2x10] cab - and it's doing just absolutely great for me. it has no any cons at these low volume levels.

  • @hunkydorian
    @hunkydorian 4 місяці тому

    Excellent, excellent presentation by the way.

  • @jonathanchevallier7046
    @jonathanchevallier7046 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this great comparison.

  • @warwicker22
    @warwicker22 4 місяці тому

    I’ve been using two 1x12 cabs for a while now. I love it, but it’s also validating to hear you recommend it.
    Also, cute cat!

  • @recklesstoboggan
    @recklesstoboggan 4 місяці тому

    Ooooooh this is sooo good!
    Thank you!
    My personal setup is an Ampeg head (all tubes, although I'm very interested in the convenience and reliability of the Venture series) into a stacked Ampeg 2x10 sitting on an Ampeg 1x15.
    I have it set up so it can easily/conveniently run both cabs together, or either cab individually with minimal effort.
    But, for me, the answer 99% of the time is both. Works for just about everything.
    My other, rather inexpensive (different from cheap), solid state Traynor practice amp is a 1x12 combo with a tweeter and grey carpeted finish (some call it rat fur). You know the one. It's a great pedal platform to get craZy, eXperiMental, and AMBIENt with.

  • @eatmarth
    @eatmarth Місяць тому

    I love that you added the frequency visualizer! I was actually surprised at how much low end discrepancy there is between the cab and DI. I started on a 15, moved to 10's and now settled on 12's, probably to corroborate your middle of the road label of 12's. In fairness there are things you can do to tame the sound of a 15, EQ and compression and such, but I do think you're still missing out if you just play a 15.

  • @ichouinard
    @ichouinard 3 місяці тому

    Very much appreciated video topic. Very helpful, as always. Thank you

  • @joeltapp7028
    @joeltapp7028 4 місяці тому

    The scope graphic was really great clarity for the full lower end on the 15" speaker.

  • @iacopoliviabella8272
    @iacopoliviabella8272 4 місяці тому +3

    Very interesting.
    I preferred 12 for fingerstyle (great compromise between the 10 and 15), but 15 for pick (I feel that with picking you need to compensate for the loss of lows)

  • @MaaziJay
    @MaaziJay 4 місяці тому +2

    10s all day! They give more clarity. Awesome bass playing by the way🎸

  • @robertvilleneuve8272
    @robertvilleneuve8272 4 місяці тому +5

    For me it was the 1x15 that sounded the best. Love how it covers the full low end range specially with the P-Bass with flats.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 4 місяці тому

    Hey thanks for the video.. I use a head with one or two 2x10" cabinets, and I have an Ampeg combo with a 15" but I like your speaker idea with the single 12" cabs. Based on the video, I thought the 12s were a good compromise,
    but like you, I preferred the 15's because I also like the old classic sound more than the brighter modern tone with their associated techniques. I'm an older guy, so I'm more of an old-school player.

  • @watchitnow765
    @watchitnow765 2 місяці тому +1

    Nothing beats the bottom end of a 15". I love mine. Ampeg cabs all use Eminence speakers. My next purchase: Eminence OmegaPro 15A 15 Inch Speaker 800 Watts 8 Ohms.

  • @dwaynecarroll6098
    @dwaynecarroll6098 4 місяці тому +1

    I love my 15 inch plus horn cabinets of which I have two. I rarely use both. Might consider adding a 410 cab to the fleet and giving that a try!

  • @kevinpelepako7381
    @kevinpelepako7381 3 місяці тому +1

    I currently own a 1x15 and a 2x12. I replaced a 4x10 with the 2x12 as my main gigging cabinet because it's lighter and easier to load in/out. One thing I didn't see you mention during the recording is that you were recording woofers only. For a vintage tone, that's ideal. But for more modern sounds you've got to be able to dial in a HF driver to bring out the same type of clarity you get from the DI signal. Pairing an good tweeter with any of these combos and attenuating the level appropriately changes the game quite a bit in terms of clarity and articulation and tips the scales away from the 4x10.

  • @fernandodearteaga
    @fernandodearteaga 4 місяці тому

    Totally agree about having a real amp behind me pushing the air. No comparison. Plus having total control over my EQ. I use a Hartke 210 and a Hartke 115. Love them !!!

  • @erikklein5296
    @erikklein5296 3 місяці тому

    This was really really useful. To my ear. For the most part the 2x12 sounded the most like the 1x15a warmth while having the accuracy of the DI. I like the idea of a single 12 for small gigs.

  • @laptoples
    @laptoples 4 місяці тому +1

    I totally agree you, the 15's had way more clarity, but for slap, the DI was the only one that sounded decent.
    I first listened on my phone and thought that, then hooked onto a Bose speaker, then listened again on JBL headphones and the outcome was the same in all cases.
    Great video !!!
    :-)

  • @jjflores2381
    @jjflores2381 4 місяці тому

    Just the vid I needed! Trying to decide between a 2x12 and 2x15 Mesa Subway cab and this helps alot! I have the Subway 4x10 and it sound great, but something about the 15.... Thanks!

  • @airtow6766
    @airtow6766 4 місяці тому

    When I was playing professionally my favorite set up was an Altec Lansing 421-8H 15” and an Electrovoice EVM 15 B 15” both in separate sealed 5 cu.ft. Cabinets braced and damped with fiberglass. Very old school, and sounded fantastic, at least to my ear.

  • @peadookie
    @peadookie 4 місяці тому

    I run the 2x 1x12” config and it’s great. I practice with one and play gigs with two. Great all-around sound, most of the depth of the 15” with most of the articulation of the 10”. I also run a 6” midrange driver rather than a tweeter and it’s been great. I’ve considered swapping one of the cabs to a tweeter for a really really well balanced array when playing with both cabs

  • @sharikmarius
    @sharikmarius 4 місяці тому +1

    Two 1x12s is the set up I settled on when I was gigging consistently. Started with the a 1x15 plus 2x10 set up, but found the packing flexibility of the 12s outweighed the output advantage of my previous set up.

  • @Wiilly97
    @Wiilly97 3 місяці тому +1

    I've run my P Bass through a 2x12 for years now, for live and recordings, and I will never go back to 10's. I've received compliments on every single gig I have played and from producer's after the switch, the 12's are just the sweet spot👌🏻

  • @preciseaudioblog
    @preciseaudioblog 4 місяці тому

    What a great video. Thank you!

  • @TheProgGuy
    @TheProgGuy 4 місяці тому

    It also goes to say about the speaker cab manufacturer, the speakers themselves, the design of the cabinet (ported vs sealed), and the microphone you're using...all contribute to the final sound you will record. I have a custom built (Atlas) 2x12 with no HF driver and it's all lows and low mids. I usually practice and play live in DI with darkglass pedals but as I've been recording recently, I've been using a blend of DI + 2X12 mic'd with a D6 and the low end power is MASSIVE.

  • @mirkomarkovic3438
    @mirkomarkovic3438 4 місяці тому +2

    The enclosure the speaker is in makes a bigger difference than speaker size itself. That beeing said i prefer closed cabinets because of the low group delay and speaker size depends-I have 10", 12", 15"and 18" and for recording i like the 10" and 18" the best.

  • @paulthelefty
    @paulthelefty 4 місяці тому +3

    Interesting and somewhat surprising to see the 15 with more of the higher frequencies vs the 4x10s coming through fingerstyle and picked. My personal experience is 15s sound muddy to me, I have a 2x12 that I really like. And the wildcard is the horn on any of these, which were not recorded and make a HUGE difference in the tone. Great video!

    • @vmstranger
      @vmstranger 4 місяці тому

      My old 4x10 SWR Goliath had a "bullet" in the enter of the cluster, so yeah, missing the horn makes a big difference - but again recorded music vs live. Sigh, really wishing I had my setup from 20 years ago now

  • @parkerellerbeck1674
    @parkerellerbeck1674 4 місяці тому +1

    Sgt pepper mustache on point brother 🤘🏻

  • @ampthebassplayer
    @ampthebassplayer 4 місяці тому +7

    I've found the Ampeg 115 I have to be not great with low B on my 5 string. I definitely prefer 10's for my playing, but I'd say you sound the best on the 115.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  4 місяці тому

      Thanks dude! In hindsight I wish I had tested these with a 5 string for this reason. Thanks for watching!

  • @mattrudybass
    @mattrudybass 4 місяці тому +3

    I think they all sound good. I use 2 12s for the versatility.

  • @Streetpartymarty
    @Streetpartymarty 4 місяці тому +15

    I really enjoy 15s. Consistent, warm and a certain openness in the mid range that seems to enhance the voice of the instrument. Nice review!

  • @arpa_cern
    @arpa_cern 4 місяці тому

    Great comparison! Thank you! Awesome video as always. For me it's clearly the 2 x 12 🤘

  • @learnonedooneteachone3822
    @learnonedooneteachone3822 4 місяці тому

    Great great vid. Proud of you brother.

  • @willpipes9795
    @willpipes9795 4 місяці тому

    Hey, Brother.Ive been using a Bag End 15", with a Hartke 12" with my SWR Workingman 300 Head,I can get the Hi-Fi,or more traditional sound with a bit of eq tweaking,and I don't mind leaving the backbreaker 4x10" at home,not one but,and I get tons of positive comments from other bassists,and the crowd members in general.Love your content,and playing,by the way,I only play with fingers,but You are making me consider trying a pick,for that more percussive sound.

  • @jaredhouseman2094
    @jaredhouseman2094 4 місяці тому +4

    I prefer a 15 for recording since you can get the most variety of sound by blending in a DI.
    I like a multiway flat cab for live because they have better dispersion
    If i were to use a traditional cabs live it would probably be 2 12s since they are usually the most convenient size, have good low end, and have better dispersion than a 115 or 410

  • @KitBasher1
    @KitBasher1 4 місяці тому

    My live rig is usually a HyDrive 112, with a little custom made 1x10 with a tweeter (all Trace Elliott parts). It’s powered by a TE GP12SMX 250 from the 90s. For louder gigs, I use my Trace rig that’s a 115, 2x10w/tweeter, powered by the AH350, also a Trace Elliot GP12SMX series amp. - Sometimes I’ll track clean bass either through one of the GP 12 preamps or sometimes even using just the Ashtown dual compressor straight into the board.

  • @georgecovetskie6717
    @georgecovetskie6717 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing this video. Well done.
    If Had to choose, I would get the 15. However, I had that exact 4x10 cab for a few years and I toured two times with it and it did work well. BUT, it started to fart when trying to push it for deeper tones. So I went back to the 15 and I been using that for the last 3 years now.
    ( Celestion 15 )
    As for the 12, I never forgot the 1st bas amp I had back in 1975 and it was a Lafyette 2x12 tube amp.
    It sounded so dam good it was one of the reasons I kept at the bass. I can't seem to re--create that sound since. But the Celestion pulse ( 12" ) i experimented with in an old fender dual 12 cab does sound freakin good. I used it a few times at local gigs and did get some bass players come up to me asking about the rig and sound. I was also pleased all night. The only problem was dam, it just is too heavy now at my age. So I just use the single 15.
    I been using Ampeg amps for the last 10 years or my trusty SWR and never had any issues with the amps. It was the speakers I been dealing with forever.
    So thanks for the video. It helps.

  • @salshouseproductions
    @salshouseproductions 4 місяці тому +10

    I have used 15’s for 35 years. Was shocked how much I liked the 10’s. I currently own an ampeg ba115

    • @joshtacker9531
      @joshtacker9531 4 місяці тому

      I've played both the BA115 & the BA210. The 2 are worlds apart. I found the BA115 very muddy and hard to hear in a band situation without turning it up way too loud.

  • @hks956
    @hks956 2 місяці тому

    Loved the 410 and thought it was over... then liked the other 2 more. Can't go wrong with any of them.

  • @reallife7235
    @reallife7235 3 місяці тому

    Thanks Phil for doing this. The 12 had the balance but I need the 15. First bass experience was in a concrete stadium, all analog, in 1984 with some band named......Rush. All Rush videos by the way, do not convey a particular important point and that is you FELT the bass. It was a listening experience. The Steinberger and Moog pedals were felt! Your 15 reminded me of that. I would love to see you do a similar video with Accugroove of CA.

  • @mastermachetier5594
    @mastermachetier5594 4 місяці тому +1

    I run bag end 15s and one is a coaxial speaker and its the best of all worlds. I can get the 15 heavy old school low end with the bright clarity of the coaxial and dial it to taste for the gigs.

  • @ladeecewashuruhm6163
    @ladeecewashuruhm6163 Місяць тому

    I love DI the most. Very consistent

  • @rollcats1290
    @rollcats1290 4 місяці тому

    Nice vid Phil. If you still have the cabs, maybe try a comparison between each cab with a room mic?
    The audience hears the 4 10s (or 2 12s) working together, so this probably would have given us a better idea of how the cabs sound in a room/live.
    Thanks!

    • @rollcats1290
      @rollcats1290 4 місяці тому

      That being said I was surprised by the mids on the 115.
      212 sounded best/most balanced to my ears.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому +1

      Here’s a follow up video from audience perspective in a venue:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

    • @rollcats1290
      @rollcats1290 3 місяці тому

      Awesome !@@philipconradmusic

  • @jhendricks02
    @jhendricks02 4 місяці тому

    nice stache dude! really tapping into that pipe smoker vibe!

  • @frankperricone2065
    @frankperricone2065 3 місяці тому

    Been running an late 70's Ampeg V4b with the Ampeg V6, 2x15 cab for years and love it. About a year ago i got a Ampeg SVT 410 HE with a EV 15" underneath the 410 sounds good but i still prefer the 2x15. 1 Speaker in my 2x15 is blown and instead of getting a new 15" i got the,4x10 because i got a good deal on it.

  • @matthewbernard4427
    @matthewbernard4427 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m old and deaf, but my hearing aids tell me the 15 sounded best on fingerstyle and slap; 4 - 10s with the pick. 12s were midrangy and sorta “meh.”
    Really appreciate your perspective on these vids - always approaching the subject from a musical and artistic point of view. Thanks much.

  • @simaojoseph
    @simaojoseph 4 місяці тому

    Cool vid as always. I would have liked a non close mic approach. Like moving the cabs and not the mic; this one being centered to the whole cabinet. I think one would have a more realistic impression of what the cab sounds in person.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  3 місяці тому +1

      Here’s a follow up video from audience perspective in a venue:
      Does bass speaker size REALLY matter? (10 vs 12 vs 15 in a Venue)
      ua-cam.com/video/5poN6Jqt-XM/v-deo.html

  • @kingstumble
    @kingstumble 4 місяці тому

    Back in the 60s--when I was very young!---bigger was always better if you were a bass player. I used to play through a Selmer Goliath cab with an 18" speaker and a Selmer Treble 'n' Bass amp. It was massive in both sound and size. After a while I bought a Selmer David 15" cab but never used them both at the same time. That was reserved for smaller venues.

  • @chrisAclaes
    @chrisAclaes 4 місяці тому

    The pick really highlighted the differences, I was surprised.

  • @jaidee9570
    @jaidee9570 4 місяці тому

    Back when I was playing in bands, I had an Alligator 200W twin 10 combo. It sounded good on it's own, but sometimes it was a little too bright. My solution was to use the speaker output socket and connect an 18" Black Widow in parallel. It added a wonderful deep tone, the combination of the two types of speakers gave me brightness and low down bass rumble, it was a good sound.
    Of course it helped that back then I could pick up and move the 18" cab on my own. Here's a tip to all you young people - if you can figure out how to do it, don't get old! 🙂

  • @jacobeperry
    @jacobeperry 4 місяці тому +2

    I have always love the crisp, punchy lows of the 4x10. To me the 15 gets super muddy in the 75-225 range. The 12’s are ok but that crisp punch of the 10’s can’t be beat. The DI is probably my new favorite just because you can shape it and put in a backpack. ;)

  • @maddoxbruce4621
    @maddoxbruce4621 4 місяці тому +4

    FUCK YEAH NEW PHIL CONRAD VIDEO. the stache looks amazing

  • @HeinzEinz
    @HeinzEinz 4 місяці тому +2

    It depends on the situation. In the test with microphone it's actually 1x10, 1x12, 1x15... it's clear that a 1x10 sounds different than 4 10’ in combination. In my opinion, the only one that really convinces on its own is the 15 inch. That's why it has prevailed for recording. Live, I'm a fan of 4x10s on stage and DI (bass driver DI) for front of house.

  • @Yestopeace365
    @Yestopeace365 4 місяці тому +2

    It was cool to hear the “cone sound” but also hearing a more distant mic pick-up to hear the cab with the horn would be interesting.

    • @gerryatrix74
      @gerryatrix74 4 місяці тому +1

      20 feet away would be good, to hear how the wave develops. Always walk well down the bar at soundcheck

  • @austincampbell9171
    @austincampbell9171 4 місяці тому

    Totally agree playing an ampeg svt through a 8x10 is something everyone should experience

  • @hags2k
    @hags2k 4 місяці тому

    It’s wild how much low frequency information is completely missing from the cabinets that’s present in the DI signal, and yet the cab sounds add so much midrange that actually makes the bass MORE audible and punchier, which makes such a difference in both the live sound recorded sound.

  • @rafbass
    @rafbass 4 місяці тому +1

    I teamped the tone from my last video to add a tube compressor. Check it out, it’s the Beatles Medley, I think you’re gonna find the tone badass! I reamped using a Canvas box.
    Suggestion: have the people who watch your channel to send you mics so you can A/B/C/Z test them all, it’s nice for your content and nice for us who can watch our mics compared to others!

  • @cyberprimate
    @cyberprimate 4 місяці тому

    Nice video as always. I'm sure you can get similar results with an EQ pedal. That could be an interesting experiment.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for watching! Yes a bit of eq could probably change any of these to sound like the others.

  • @tommyblackwell3760
    @tommyblackwell3760 4 місяці тому

    The 15 was best with fingers & picks, for slap the DI was best which surprised me too. 12s have never done it for me with bass. But I've always loved a good punchy mid and treble with solid bottom....so I ended up bi-amping. I had a buddy build a splitter box with 3 inputs going out to a stacked pair of old Trace combos, a 2x10 and a 1x15. The box has one TRS input so I can use my Ric's stereo output, the other two are mono for my other basses, the signal still goes to both amps which are eq'd to fit the ranges where each one's speakers work best. This and separate effects chains make for tone HEAVEN!

  • @eliasthury425
    @eliasthury425 3 місяці тому

    I usually like playing up a little higher up on the neck, and the tighter low end on the 4x10 cab sounded really even across the board, which is what I like.

  • @SoMyungJung
    @SoMyungJung 4 місяці тому

    Awesome video.
    Would be interesting to compare between 2x10, 4x10, 6x10 and 8x10.

  • @jean-philippemorin1176
    @jean-philippemorin1176 4 місяці тому

    I love 4x10 ported generally. I found ported cabs add a bit of omfff in the low end in the room. Some cab be muddy tho I don't like them all. The one I own and I prefered is a classic 6x10 hlf from ampeg. Not that fun to carry around but it gives the sound and feel I like and need. Their ampeg classic 4x10 hlf sounds great too. I enjoy the eden 4x10 and swr 4x10 goliath. I love their direct and fast punch.
    I must say the 15" in your comparison sounds very good too, but the 10" is the one I prefer.
    I am with you that I prefer a cab sound. We should have more nice IRs for bass too like guitars have, for when we plug direct.
    I'd be interrested to see you covering a couple of good mikes for recording bass and cabs. Your videos sound pretty good so there is something for us to learn from you there. :)