Thanks Henry! So glad to know the video is helpful to you! Stay tuned for my next video on the serve (I have a special opportunity I will be announcing). Best, John
One of the best videos that explains how the 3 types of serves are different. Thanks for clarifying the pronation in slice serve part. A lot of coaches on YT seem to suggest that pronation is not needed in slice serve.
John, you and Powerflail are the best online coaches. You guys know the inner secrets of the top players in the world. I bought your serve course and together with benefit of Powerflail's free UA-cam lessons, my serve is now described as having a lot of power, accuracy and disguise!
Hi Laurence, Thank you so much for your kind comments. I am so pleased to know my instruction has helped you develop a professional quality serve! Kindly, John
Hi John, You are definitely right. Pronation is key, but the way it is often explained induces thinking of it consciously, which, in turn, leads to slowing down the serve. My point of view is that if you have a Continental grip and include all the ingredients you have mentioned, pronation takes care of itself - be it a flat, slice or kick serve. Thinking of one aspect consciously, whatever it is, will automatically slow you down and rob you of a lot of power. Thinking of individual parts is only helpful when shadow swings are executed in slow motion without a ball in order to ingrain certain elements. Mind you, the lagging part of your serve motion is absolutely vital in order to prevent both arms from going up simultaneously, which disrupts the fluid motion otherwise. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany, Joern
Hi nice video can you use 2 cameras so that we can see it in different angles the movement of the arm hip & shoulder how far it goes Its also great if you can add some slow motion on the movement Thanks more power on your channel
Thanks for your great question. Ideally the Slice and Flat serve will feel and appear very similar. Minimize a change in the ball toss location and focus on hitting the side of the ball, feeling like a 45 degree angle on contact. Less pronation to contact compared to a flat serve. Keep me updated on your progress. Thanks, John
45 degree angle refers to the position / angle that is halfway between the baseline and and the sideline. In the case of the slice serve, the torso is facing off on a 45 degree angle and the racquet is attacking the ball on a 45 degree angle. I hope this makes sense. Thanks, John
Hello, Thanks for posting this video. Flat/Slice - Does the racket at contact, shoulders,arm line up straight or is the racket at angle to the arm on contact ? Thanks,Padhu
Hi Padhu, Thanks for your comments and question. The racket and your arm should not produce an exact straight line, as this position creates weakness into contact. The long axis rotation from the shoulder best occurs when the Racket is on a slight angle inside… I hope this helps! Thanks, John
Hi Hal, Thanks for your feedback.The path of the flat slice is a blend of a flat swing path and slice swing path. The beauty is you can easily vary the path to create more speed / less spin or visa / versa without revealing to your opponent. I hope this clarifies. Thanks again, John
Hi and thanks for your question. There really is no topspin on this serve. It is a slice serve where you "take" more ball and therefor have more ball speed and less slice. I go into it in more detail in my serve course, which is included in my $5 special offer starting tomorrow on website...check it out!
HI David, I would focus first on mechanics...get the technique solid. Then focus on the slice...it is more than adequate for green dot competition, and will be valuable once the junior moves into the standard ball. If your junior has excellent technique, I would start working on topspin 1 year prior to the change into the standard ball. I hope this is helpful! Best, John
Performance Plus Tennis- Pro Tennis Lessons Hey John - Got some more questions for you if I may: i. Which sorts of serves does your ‘Serve Fundamentals’ video series refer - I’m thinking flat but to a lesser degree slice and kick?; ii. In the footwork section of your ‘Serve Fundamentals’ series you refer to other ‘advanced’ footwork patterns - how may we access these?
David Kim Hi David, The Foundation course covers technique with a platform stance. The advanced technique course, which is included, covers stance options, spins, and other concepts related to discovering and developing your own style. We are offering a special promotion on the serve course later this week. Let me know though the contact us page on our website if you would like to receive details. Thanks, John
Are you ready to take your serve to the next level? Check out our serve course hereperformanceplustennis.com/serve-foundation-program-intro/ 💥🎾🔥
Love this video, John! I've watched this video at least 5 times in the last 2 years.
Thanks Henry! So glad to know the video is helpful to you! Stay tuned for my next video on the serve (I have a special opportunity I will be announcing). Best, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis Looking forward to hearing about it!
One of the best videos that explains how the 3 types of serves are different.
Thanks for clarifying the pronation in slice serve part. A lot of coaches on YT seem to suggest that pronation is not needed in slice serve.
Thank you so much for your feedback and kind comments! Best, John
John, you and Powerflail are the best online coaches. You guys know the inner secrets of the top players in the world.
I bought your serve course and together with benefit of Powerflail's free UA-cam lessons, my serve is now described as having a lot of power, accuracy and disguise!
Hi Laurence, Thank you so much for your kind comments. I am so pleased to know my instruction has helped you develop a professional quality serve! Kindly, John
Hi John, You are definitely right. Pronation is key, but the way it is often explained induces thinking of it consciously, which, in turn, leads to slowing down the serve. My point of view is that if you have a Continental grip and include all the ingredients you have mentioned, pronation takes care of itself - be it a flat, slice or kick serve. Thinking of one aspect consciously, whatever it is, will automatically slow you down and rob you of a lot of power. Thinking of individual parts is only helpful when shadow swings are executed in slow motion without a ball in order to ingrain certain elements. Mind you, the lagging part of your serve motion is absolutely vital in order to prevent both arms from going up simultaneously, which disrupts the fluid motion otherwise. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany, Joern
Great roundup thanks!
Thanks Danny! And thanks for subscribing to PPT! I look forward to helping you with your tennis! Best, John
I like the key takeaways 👍👍👍
Thanks, John
Hi nice video can you use 2 cameras so that we can see it in different angles the movement of the arm hip & shoulder how far it goes Its also great if you can add some slow motion on the movement Thanks more power on your channel
dannylota Thanks Danny for your comment. We are working to improve our video’s for our valued viewers. Thanks, John
bloody brilliant
Will Fletch Thanks Will! Great to hear from you, John
Performance Plus Tennis- Pro Tennis Lessons always a pleasure John. One day I’ll overcome my fear of flying and come to California
Will Fletch Sounds great!
Hi. Please some words about toss, footwork and shoulder rotation for 3 types of serves. Thanks!
Ok, we will add it to our list of video topics...thanks, John
On the “ flat-slice” should you think pronate like a flat but toss the ball more to the right and stay sideways? OR more of a brush like slice motion?
Thanks for your great question. Ideally the Slice and Flat serve will feel and appear very similar. Minimize a change in the ball toss location and focus on hitting the side of the ball, feeling like a 45 degree angle on contact. Less pronation to contact compared to a flat serve. Keep me updated on your progress. Thanks, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis ok ill work on this, thanks! so more 12 o clock toss and focus on hitting the side?
@@user-be5qg7mr1s Yes, minimize toss variation and contact/ brush the side. Best, John
Hi, could somebody explain what does 45 degree angle refer to exactly for sliced serves? Thanks
45 degree angle refers to the position / angle that is halfway between the baseline and and the sideline. In the case of the slice serve, the torso is facing off on a 45 degree angle and the racquet is attacking the ball on a 45 degree angle. I hope this makes sense. Thanks, John
I really like your shoes! Where did you find/order those? Do you have a product name so I could search? Thanks!
Hi Alex, those are Nike Cage 2's...not available anymore, and are replaced with the latest (Cage 3 I think). Kindly, John
good stuff
Why slice serve and slow serve is not popular
Hello, Thanks for posting this video. Flat/Slice - Does the racket at contact, shoulders,arm line up straight or is the racket at angle to the arm on contact ? Thanks,Padhu
Hi Padhu, Thanks for your comments and question. The racket and your arm should not produce an exact straight line, as this position creates weakness into contact. The long axis rotation from the shoulder best occurs when the Racket is on a slight angle inside… I hope this helps! Thanks, John
WHAT ARE BALL CONTACT POINTS FOR FLAT/SLICE SERVE THANK YOU
Hi! Your answer is in this video at 3:55: ua-cam.com/video/U-n3KbfoYfw/v-deo.html
Racket path for flat slice serve needs to be clearer. Thx.
Hi Hal, Thanks for your feedback.The path of the flat slice is a blend of a flat swing path and slice swing path. The beauty is you can easily vary the path to create more speed / less spin or visa / versa without revealing to your opponent. I hope this clarifies. Thanks again, John
Is it possible the flat/slice SERVEis actually a TOPSPIN/SLICE SERVE
Hi and thanks for your question. There really is no topspin on this serve. It is a slice serve where you "take" more ball and therefor have more ball speed and less slice. I go into it in more detail in my serve course, which is included in my $5 special offer starting tomorrow on website...check it out!
What's the grip on a kick serve?
Hi, A continental or strong continental is ideal for the kick serve. Best, John
John - When it comes to these three sorts of serves, what should kids (e.g., 9-yr. old green dot players) try to hone at this stage?
HI David, I would focus first on mechanics...get the technique solid. Then focus on the slice...it is more than adequate for green dot competition, and will be valuable once the junior moves into the standard ball. If your junior has excellent technique, I would start working on topspin 1 year prior to the change into the standard ball. I hope this is helpful! Best, John
Performance Plus Tennis- Pro Tennis Lessons Hey John - Got some more questions for you if I may: i. Which sorts of serves does your ‘Serve Fundamentals’ video series refer - I’m thinking flat but to a lesser degree slice and kick?; ii. In the footwork section of your ‘Serve Fundamentals’ series you refer to other ‘advanced’ footwork patterns - how may we access these?
David Kim Hi David, The Foundation course covers technique with a platform stance. The advanced technique course, which is included, covers stance options, spins, and other concepts related to discovering and developing your own style. We are offering a special promotion on the serve course later this week. Let me know though the contact us page on our website if you would like to receive details. Thanks, John
Performance Plus Tennis- Pro Tennis Lessons Will do, John - thank you...