I’m a British Royal Marines Commando and we used this tent in subzero snowy temperatures in Norway. Best tent I’ve ever used. Not one bit of moisture got in the tent and we had 70mph wind smashing against it also.
I’d check it under thermal night vision, my guess is that it’ll block a good amount of the heat sig. Might be able to explain the price... that’s what the velvety stuff on the inside is.
I would be very surprised if the tent wasn't coated in NIR blocking material (what uniforms have - at least in the Australian Army, the uniform changed design at the same time, and they got nicknamed NIR's) NIR isn't thermal though, that would be almost impossible to block, but rather it would help with NIR or what NVGs see (although NVGs do go all the way to SWIR) they help to reduce the reflected NIR light back so that NVGs don't pick you up as well.
I’m in the Canadian Army and I would absolutely invest in this tent ! Yeah $2300 + tax + tariffs is a lot, but doing Army stuff is a lot different than weekend camping. I’ve been in the Army for 17years, done tours overseas, and countless exercises in all weather. For me it’s difficult to put a price on the comfort of being able to crawl into your own dry space after being on patrol for days. Government contracts are a bit of a joke, and I’m sure they could produce this tent for less. But go try spending a month in a 20year old 5 or 10 man tent, with a bunch of snoring, farting, Army guys, and tell me you wouldn’t want this tent !!! Sgt Dolan
Sgt Dolan Shouldn't you country pay for your gear sir. I've never heard of Military grunts paying out of pocket save your hard earn monies. You do have a family
@@DFox-ud3gx even here in the US army or any branch really. A lot and I mean A LOT of us buy our own boots because standard issue really messes up your feet.
@@DFox-ud3gx while they supply basic gear, a lot of soldiers choose to purchase higher end gear since military standard issue is generally not the best, especially with boots like @sheanae6815 said
@@DFox-ud3gxomg. What a stupid comment from a non-mil. Of course we purchase better gear for ourselves out of pocket. Military grade means =the cheapest bidder to produce equipment.
HAHAHA laughing so hard my cheeks hurt "Tactical spooning" i need one of these tents for me an my GF when we go camping. how much for shipping to Australia?
5:37 I guess "Advanced communications" include mouth-to-ear wireless pressure oscillations channels, line-of-sight hand codes, and ballistic deliveries of boots on snoring comrades.
My best guess is that two tents might be able to utilise the tent poles as some sort of antenna or work with some type of field equipment. Idk. But my guess, is there is something more to the tent poles.
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$300 for the tent, $2000 for the senator that passed the bill that ordered it to be made. How do you think people like Pelosi and McConnell get to be multimillionaires on a 170k a year salary?
170k annually is damn good money for a salary, a person could live literally anywhere in the US comfortably. The average US citizen barely breaks 20-25k in the same time span, just over 1/8th of their salary...as a voluntary public servant. These members of congress should (In a world with justice) be making around the same as our military servicemen/women or less, considering they're not on a battlefield. Our system today is an embarrassment to the constitution that started it.
When I was in the service we were issued with a poncho which doubled as a tent. We piled bushy branches on the ground to sleep on, and draped the poncho over top of us to keep the rain off.
I did 2 combat tours and ops in several different countries (jungle, snow, swamp, desert, repeat). This tent is either made especially for the Air Force or any Officer. I dont see it being used by anyone thats really doing a "mission". You can last weeks in the field with a poncho. Extreme cold weather you want a better tent you can cook in and dry your clothes. Some lucky tent manufacturer got lucky with a huge expensive order from the government. Im sure its a great tent but totally useless in the military for war time applications. Great video brother.
preston crofford lol exactly what I thought... though it not funny and should be a conflict of interest and illegal. Damn shame how people with ties draw in massive wealth from we the tax payers
No ! No ! No ! There is no reason at all to take a generator camping ! It's solar ! If you buy one today we'll even throw in a solar clothes dryer ! But wait ! Call today and we'll even throw in a big ass box of kitchen knives , a set of good luck oriental wind chimes a wonder mop and a miracle duster and a Slim Wilson album . Call today operators are standing by ! Just dial 1 (800) eat-shit .
This tent was designed for small 4 man long range recon teams setting up complex time consuming operations (you see the seals on tv jumping in on an objective at night the teams that field these are the reason they know where to jump) the Gor-Tex fabric blocks all IR, FLIR and thermal signatures ( we are not the only country with predators, ravens and thermal) the linking system is to have the ability to link data cables and electronic equipment without giving off said signatures no most marines and soldiers have never seen these because those soldiers and marines are not doing these types of operations or even know the operators that are doing them( most of the operators that use these have “BOB” or “Steve” on their name tape) and people will say it’s to heavy to move fast. Heavy is a relative term considering all the equipment needed for satellite communications and data transfer in a 3rd word country
We were able to count bodies in them with Leupold 0603-2177 172830 LTO-Tracker Thermal (off the shelf, civilian use). And we can see remote-control (IR remotes) flashing through them using old cell-phone cameras.
@@hockeycody12 No unit involved. Just independent testing using a few different devices. Granted the LTO tracker is kind of pricey, and it's kind of bulky for a cheap drone -- it's at least 2 generations behind good modern (state of the art) milspec night-vision. But it also works differently from modern military night-vision too. And I realize that an IR remote-control is probably not gonna pass military muster, security-wise... but it easily bleeds through the fabric. We did not try any of the covers, however, because we only had 3 hours.
This tent is designed to be used as the comms tent for special forces while conducting special reconnaissance operations deep in enemy territory, as in a observation post. The secondary tent would be ideal to conceal a SATCOM antenna, like the GATR Flex, which runs for about 50k per antenna and a SDN-Lite terminal($$$). The height of the tent is also ideal for the commo Sgt. to operate the sat radio while on a kneeling position. This tent is not designed for regular army troops to sleep in, but to provide cover and IR concealment for SF forces, OGAs and chiefly their equipment, while performing recon. And is definitely not made for the recreational camper in mind.
This also blocks IR, Thermal, and NVG signiture. This is a huge benefit for those trying to avoid being spotted by the enemy and evading capture. Something no other individual military tent offers. currently
Let me school on how Procurement works in the Military… Military is a mix of government and civilian organizations. When a requirement is identified, a host of people write up the request, the private sector answers that request, and a bunch of other people evaluate what the private sector provides as a solution. Someone else in the government makes a decision. Then an entirely different government organization fields the equipment and another organization provides logistics and sustainment for said equipment. When the equipment no longer has any use, yet another organization disposes of it. Every single person at every organization that touches that equipment loads their operating costs to the overall price of the equipment. So a $500 tent becomes a $2300 tent.
Actually 2.3k isn't bat at all. Think about it. This thing is probably made in the USA, with high quality materials (low ir signature and all) and in small numbers. So the R&D costs are high per tent. Let's say you got $300 in material that leaves you with 2k in labor which would be 40h with a $50 payrate. So a worker could make 1 tent a week. I don't think it's a rip off at all.
Like the $1000.00 toilet seats and $300 rolls of Toilet Paper 🗞️ if civilians had the spending habits of the military everyone would be homeless unless they purchased one of these tent's.
At first I was just like everyone in the comments, but after reading one guy's justification on the price it makes sense. Blocking all IR, thermal, and other scanning signatures, blocking all light internally, etc, sounds like it could be super expensive. For SEALs and other advanced combat fighters I could see these being super useful. Just not for the average soldier.
Expensive? Check. Heavy? Check. Bullet proof? Nope. Connectable to another tent so that you can cuddle your fellow soldier in the middle of the night? Check.
I was a grunt in the Army and we were never issued anything close to this. In fact we don’t even use tents out in the field . We slept on the ground and liked it!!!!!
I've just developed a ultra light weight tent. I will be marketing it shortly. It consist of para chord and a tarp. Weighs 3 pounds. Taking orders. Only $5000 each. Lol and thanks for all the spelling advice. I think the sarcasm is going over their heads and under their feet.
Full light blocking, 2 shelters to be attached together, advanced communications. It's sounds like a clues for a camouflaged radio communications tent for reconnaissance or special forces.
Great tent thanks for the review. For those complaining about the weight consider that you don't need a wood stove and don't need to take both flys if you don't need it. It looks very sturdy. Of course the high price tag is due to government contractor overspending, this is a big reason why the US in so much debt.
Canadian Prepper....Call the note on US debt......you'll get a big ass gun in your face. You saw what happened to the British when they tried to collect taxes right? We will pay you when we feel like it, money is no good if your dead. Rule number one....he who can kill the best wins everything every time.
@@udontneedtono9825 😂 the US owes most of its debt to its own social security fund. So yeah that’s a bit of a circular firing squad you got there buddy.
well, here you are again with your comments on how bad america is again. tell you what, why dont you get him to run for president in canada. im sure your country men will love that.
Wow... can I just say as someone who hasn't camped or used a tent since I was a little kid, the sound of you using the zips sent shivers down my spine . I was instantly in the backyard with my brother on a warm night in the school holidays. Such a unique tent-y sound.
Would be really cool if you could view the tent with a FLIR or similar device, and compare it to a commercial tent. If I can minimize a soldier's footprint that the price would be worth it in a combat scenario.
Ben I don't think so. And i agree with Robert Amy. The fact that the material was designed between the tent company and gore itself indicates that there were some advanced requirements. The company also said it was designed for special operations, and that they were linkable for "communications and planning." I would bet that they emit no heat signature or light. Those requirements are what make it expensive.
I did actually get to use one of these tents during my service in iraq some years back. Me and the other soldiers loved the zip together feature. Allowed us to roll together and cuddle each other when the battlefield got too scary or lonely. Nothing like being held at night by your fellow soldiers.
I can't buy a military rifle, but several consumer versions of the AR-15 or M4 are available for around $1500 - actually some as low as $750.. Try Rural King or Bud's Guns..
I had one ALMOST identical to that one when I was in the Seabees back in '07, basically the only difference was it couldn't link up to another one. It was a huge step up from the shelter half I had in '04.
Makes is easy to say "Good night John Boy" that's advanced. What is really is, Clinton authorized it and the price and for every tent purchased she gets $1127 check snoops
Did you miss the memo ? As we all know actions speak louder than words. They use sign language in the military , the really hands on type. I love you is not something they like to express vocally in the military so to do it hands on they need an advanced system. As sort of reach over and "Actions speak louder than words" moment.
Forget the ridiculous price tag, I'm out when he said 9 lbs! 9 lbs? No way am I carrying such a heavy tent. What backpacker in his right mind would spend 2300 to add 9 pounds to his base weight? As far as the price, that is standard issue government contract pricing. Your tax dollars hard at work folks.
crunkinthis you could get a "bomb proof" tent that is four season, will withstand any weather you throw at it for a quarter of the price and half the weight. This tent doesn't make any sense to me personally.
this weighs 1/3 more than my MSR FURY mountaineering tent..and i can bet the Fury would handle triple the wind this tent would. ive had it in 80+ MPH on Mt Hood..survived a storm that killed 3 professional climbers that same 3 days.
I own a pair of GoreTex Lowa Renegade 2's. Those things keep my feet bone dry in water/snow conditions. The downside is that they are terrible at breathing, and not a great summertime boot, or any GoreTex boot for that matter I imagine.
Throughout my entire military career in the Infantry I used my tent maybe twice, once in the field and once when I went camping with my civilian friends. Tents are more of a POG thing. Tax payers have been ripped off on this one.
Vincent Sabatini not to mention my rpg can now take out more than one of y'all with that linking system. This really doesn't seem intelligent from a tatics standpoint. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But wouldn't you rather be fanned out a bit?
Tim Eubanks It all depends. If you're on the front lines, expect to be digging foxholes. If you're on a fob somewhere you might be able to sleep in a tent if the hooches arent up.
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and apparently is a faraday's cage also...no RFI or EMI also... thats a tough claim to verify though as i couldnt see any of the usual seals for achieving that...the zips looked standard, etc.
@@timn4481 probably not, wouldnt make much sense to even try since youd be forcibly out of coms or routing coms outside anyhow. That said its probably very low detectable In Uv(Re:Nightvision) Thermals, and emitted light from inside and outside. I still think it looks like a heavy sweatbox with seemingly useless features ( i cant honestly imagine why linking would be useful).
Thing is though, they probably don't have time to pack and unpack their house-tent when they're using this. They might have to pack and leave quickly. It would be a shame to forget something in that lil mesh pocket inside the tent that they've packed up. Good luck unpacking the tent and finding that thing in the mesh pocket then packing it all up again with the enemy baring down.
@@F4ngel i feel like you could just not use the pockets then... theres no reason not to have some sort of gear storage. It either significantly increases the standard of living within the tent, or you just dont use it... right? I mean the goretex is probably cool, but other than that this thing looks like an absolute nightmare to use. There isnt even a vestibule to put boots under if its raining, like why wouldnt they add that
Hey Luke, I have never used this tent....too much of an old guy. Costs are associated with the iterative R&D costs and testing under rigorous conditions in all kinds of weather and environmental conditions. Love your program and watching your kids grow into adults. Enjoy this season of life my friend. God blessings and much love from DC.
I actually got ahold of this tent about 4 years ago on eBay. I'd never recommend anyone carry this in a backpack as it's way too heavy for that. But I've used it while car camping. The best use in my opinion was during the winter when I pulled it in a sled. It's a great shelter but not great enough to lug over miles of rough terrain
It’s made of custom Gor-Tex, my Gor-Tex mountaineering jacket cost $600 so I can believe it. Since this version of Gor-Tex material was researched, developed, tested and built to meet specific military requirements Gor-Tex spent a shitload of money to develop it. Since it cannot be sold on the civilian market and only a very small percentage of the entire military will ever use or have the need for it Gor-Tex has to recoup their R&D for this product somehow and that’s why they cost $2,300. This is the same reason why your college text books cost hundreds of dollars and not the $35 you pay for hard cover books online or your local bookstore - very limited circulation.
Yep, I'm a Thru-Hiker and am not surprised at the cost, with the R&D and materials I am surprised it didn't cost more actually. It serves a very specific purpose (my tent if you put on a head light stands out like a glowing beacon, not useful for being stealthy). Now would I want one? oh hell no! 9 lbs for a tent? That's as much as ALL of my gear put together for 6 months of hiking. haha
I worked two DOD contracts overseas and we obtained these tents through Navy Supply Corps even though we were assigned to setting up water bladders and fortified conex boxes for the US Army. We usually kept these tents in our own construction conex containers after a few small plywood barracks could be built for ourselves, depending on the mission. We did zip a couple of tents together to store small generators along with a few other tools when one conex got cluttered. Overall, our tents were pretty durable with only a couple damaged out of about two dozen or so. Pretty decent protection from the cold and almost waterproof.
Gortex was designed to allow moisture to escape yet keep heat in. It was expensive then, and still expensive now. I am sure with NEMO collaborating with Gortex, the final product would be extremely expensive, and very unique. That would account for the high price, for research, and development of a unique material only made for the Military.
U Americans! :DD When I was in the norwegian army, every soldier had a rain-poncho that we could put together with one or more of our fellow soldiers. Two of us could make a two-person tent. 6 of us a 6-person tent, and so on. The biggest I used was a 10-person tent. This was used in summer, fall, winter and spring. No problem! I used it in northern Norway in -32 degrees celsius during the winter. And it was a RAIN-PONCHO! Light, and easy to carry. :D
My WRSK kit back in the early 80’s had 1/2 of a canvas tent. You got 1/2 of the snaps and had to find a another with the other half to make a whole tent. We had to have this packed and ready to go at a moments notice.
The main part why it's so expensive is most likely that it isn't infrared reflecting and has a special inner or outer coating to be anti thermal conductive, so that it isn't seen on thermal cameras and infrared (night vision) cameras...
That shit is so bunk, I've never come across any man made material that doesn't glow and stick out like a soar thumb with NVGs. Thermals on the other hand can be easily cloaked.
If your own nightvision cant surpass the cloaking of your own soldiers then you're behind with the development of your nightvision. It's futureproofing, in case the "enemy" whoever they might be develops a cloak as good as on your own troops. In that event, it won't matter because your nightvision can already see through it.
It’s not all knock-offs from China, a lot of it comes out the backdoors of the Chinese factories contracted for manufacturing the real deal. The Chineese have absolutely no business ethics for actual or intellectual property, they will do anything for a buck.
Maybe somebody else pointed this out already further down, but "advance communications" don't mean sharing a tent with your best buddy. It means you can pitch up two tents in an advance position (ie close to or beyond a frontline) and use that as a base. You can get a small team out of the rain, have some soup, discuss the next move, set up a radio and talk to HQ. Basically two of these and a radio will make a very small, but camouflaged and roofed, command center.
Ever wonder how politicians get so rich with a public servant salary? This is how. Give the contract to someone who over charges, with the understanding that that person will give them a speaking engagement fee off 100,000.00 later. Or they will make a multi million dollar "Donation" to the good senators "charity". The tent costs 150.00 bucks. the corrupt company and senator split the differance of 2100.00. And that my friends is why all "public servants" are rich.
Justin McCoy exactly, usually the agenda changes the person. Hence why even those bright eyed kids entering politics to make changes for the better come out dirty on the other side.
I feel like this cost $2,300 in the same way ordering a burger from the cafeteria during a hospital stay cost $70, or the fact that just getting to the hospital a few miles away in an ambulance cost $7,500...
@@samboonjue1349 yeah. Cheap. And priced as if superb gourmet. This tent is $800 max to retail. The rest is political graft. (Legal theivery) but the government economic focus is on Europe because they didn't pay for the current election campaign.
Well yes - you could take a taxi to the hospital for a few bucks, or have your mates chuck you into the back of the ute, during a heart attack or after a serious road accident, or delivering your baby, or with your arm/leg/face ripped off, or with 3rd degree burns etc., but I think the Taxi driver would not be too happy about his upholstery and you would miss all the life-saving bits and pieces that an ambulance just happens to have. The cost is not what you declare, "On average, an ambulance company will charge anywhere from $350 to as much as $2,000 for a trip without insurance." Get insured. Hamburgers and sandwiches and cakes at the hospital cafeteria cost the same as elsewhere, but you could call your Mum and she will cook/prepare these things perhaps just for you and drive alllll the way there like family and friends do. Get some friends. And research properly before making public comments. Lol.
An interesting style, but I will choose to leave out the multiple paragraphs of nonsensical drivel while making my point, to save us both time. I have insurance. When you have insurance, you still get to see how your insurance was billed. My insurance was billed just under $7,500 for an ambulance ride. My insurance was billed just under $70 for a meal delivered to my room, the only meal I ordered being a hamburger. You say "get some friends" but that is clearly a hypocritical statement, being that if you had any yourself you would not be so bitter.
vzgsxr that’s how corruption in Russia works, the government says that they paid 2000$ for a product, but actually they only paid 1000$. Taking money left to their pockets
@@nimbleco8202 You are an idiot if you think that is how it works. I mean God forbid we blame capitalist for bribing republicans to give them a really sweet contract so they can soak in millions of dollars and give the government nothing in return. On second thought after looking at Russia's military budget I have to say You must be right Nimble. I mean how else could Russia spend 11 times as much on their military then we do? I mean there is no way we could match their spending unless the corrupt democrats controlled the US and turned it into a communist paradise, right?
It’s not that bad. Building to milspec always adds to the cost. In reality, goretex is expensive stuff. Jackets are regularly $500 and up. Add some costs for a custom color and surface coating. Quieter fabrics tend to cost more. A one person tent has much more fabric than a jacket. The camouflage covers are going to add to the costs. The customized connection feature adds costs. On the civilian market, Black Diamond makes a single wall winter/mountaineering tent with side doors that runs $700 retail plus the cost of the footprint and an optional vestibule. It and the rest of that line of tents are in a proprietary waterproof breathable fabric bought from the original manufacturer not Goretex but similar. That line of tents is also only available in a very bright yellow which isn’t optimal for military use.
I personally don't like war. however I do love to benefit from new innovations governments come up with when preparing for war and finding they now have something better... old patterns find their way to investors, then the public buy and enjoy some really amazing things....
Sat nav is another biggy (most phones plug into GPS, GLONASS, or Beidou, all primarily military navigation systems). The internet being born out of ARPANET, even just plain old computers (ENIAC was military). Automatic door sensors have their history from shell fuses. Modern life wouldn't be modern if it wasn't for our love of finding new way of blowing each other... to pieces.
@@Logarithm906 lol nicely put, its nice that we no longer have to actually blow ppl up to know that it works now tho much better in a simulator than reality :P
I have met great narrators - This guy has an astonishing ability to narrate. I assume he is not reading off an auto-queue, but even if he was. Awesome talent.
...but it vents well? Military "thermal-heat detecting" or IR for you sciencey folks is extremely sensitive to temp differences so if it can vent and breath it won't hide temps is this thermal-heat detecting proofing only when all vents are closed?
@@ben-xl7ne it strongly depends on different factors. first of all, iv the vents are opened or closed, obviously. but what isnt that obvious is the size of the vents, which are pretty big and thats does indeed contrubute to the claim its heat detection proof. why you ask? cause you actually determin the heat differences and with those big vents the heat spreads way more outside, than it would with a much smaller vent. another contributing factor i can imagine is the material itself. the moment he said something about the ffeling of the material inside made me thing that it may had slightly insulating properties. like glas for example, in infrared glas opaque, while in the visible spectrum u can look through it. maybe its something similar, result-wise. that it may not block everything, but a lot of it. if now there is a a little bit of wind, that tiny bit heat gets scattered completly and the outside of the tend is cooled, making it then invisble. however, pure speculation based your question.
@@locutusvonborg2k3 Thanks for the reply. Your speculation allowed me to think it through more and as long as the material has some form of IR absorption it will now be a much larger thermal mass that will act as a heat spreader. Vents look too be line of sight blocked by top cover so everything will dissipate over large area. Side note: while glass absorbs IR it does still get hot which makes it emit its own IR which is weird to thinks about. Side side note: microwaves are not absorbed by glass until it’s red hot then it does so you can heat glass with a blow torch then melt it in a microwave.
@@ben-xl7ne nono, u got me wrong, the material doesnt need an absorption, but an insulation. thats why i ment, the when he said the inside is so smooth. anyways, having the tent itself acting as a heatspreader is also possible. but that would make the scenario using it in sub-zero temps pretty bad. cause, you want to preserve the heat, otherwise it gets cold very quick. thats why i was more keen to the idea of insulation. regarding the glass, it wasnt about getting hot or not. maybe it was a bad example, just wanted to explain that there are differences between visible and ir, which feel counterintuitiv. i wasnt saying anything about microwaves tho. microwaves to increase the energy level of elements, which then leads electrons get to higher orbits. when they get back, the energy released is dissipated as radiation, different kinds of it. however, because glas itself is pretty inert, the microwaves dont do much, it only starts when heating the glass, so the elemets within the glass can be acffected. anyways, i do think such a tent with the told abilities is clearly in the possible range.
I tested tents for the military, and some of the shit we saw roll though, was over complicated, and just flat out difficult to set up in adverse conditions. The development requirements for mil spec equipment was cumbersome and clearly over the top for a tent. I'm saddened, but not surprised it ended up costing 2k.
honestly its only 3-4x times what a comparable heavy duty 4 season 1 man tent goes for on the civilian market, that isn't bad in terms of government waste. I have seen shit go out 10-12x...
A long time ago a few companies experimented with using Gore-tex for tents but the material never really took off. At the moment, I can't think of any company which makes one and I have never seen a gore-tex tarp before. - Luke
Dark Thoughts. Anything Goretex is expensive and they used a lot of Goretex to makes this tent when I first seen the tent and heard it was made of Goretex I said to myself thats a 2 thousand dollar tent I was close. I am a sailor and own all kinds of Goretex gear. Goretex = $$$$
I know it is expensive, I have shoes using it too. A consumer product would still be less expensive due to various reasons such as higher production rates = more savings on material orders and potentially automated manufacturing processes. Other products using it are not just expensive because of the material alone but other features and manufacturing processes as well, in case of this tent the actual production of it isn't actually that complex so the majority of the cost would come from the material itself.
there is a company called carinthia wich make a one man sniper tent made of goretex. it retails for around 600€, still much money but much less compared to this one
Back in late 70s ,i bought a north face ve24 that weighted around nine pounds and you could probably could have stuffed three people in tent ,but i soloed with it in the Canadian Rockies and around the west coast.It was heavy,but what wasn';t 40 plus years back . i was a tree climber,young and in excellent shape .The tent was a beast.Nothing would take that tent down,and it probably was a 400.00 tent in 1978 and i got it for 220.00 because it had a pin hole in the tent wall,rip stop nylon,and had a store that custom made my down bag sew a patch for two bucks on it.
I'm Army active duty and I have been issued an Army tent before in Hawaii. Some of the living conditions in Hawaii, specially with all the rain and centipedes (which bite really hard by the way ) makes it for us easier when it comes to taking care of our troops since they live in some harsh conditions. Now, with that being said, I ended up buying my own one person tent on Amazon which is ALSO issued by the Army and the reason I bought it was because it was 1/3rd of the weight compared to the one I was issued. Going up and down hills, mountains, with a full kit, bullet proof vest, rounds, extra gear, weapon and all the tons of stuff that we carry, an extra 6 pounds make a world of difference. The one I was issued weights about 9 pounds compared to the one I bought which is 3 pounds. In the military we have a saying, ounces make pounds, so we have to learn to pack smart and efficiently but most of the time we are giving a packing list and guess what, we are humping everything I just described PLUS the packing, PLUS the tent, so it takes a toll on our bodies. I've only been in the Army a little over 7 years now and I've already broken many parts of my body, plus lots of back pain everyday. Also, let me point out that only SOME units, a small percentage of the Army gets issued tents. It took me 5 years to find out they we had them. Overall, this tent looks awesome, seems like it can withstand a lot of weather abuse, however, it is not worth paying $2,300 for and I'm not surprised. I've seen some really dumb items cost over $4,000 dollars for something that should cost maybe $200 bucks. Anyways, this is just my opinion, but maybe I'm not seeing the bigger picture.
Well when you're sleeping at night you want to be safe when you're at War. So you don't want the enemy using night vision or infrared heat-seeking observation tools. Which does tense have Ben made out of. So if a infrared enemy drone flew over it would not be able to detect heat or a shape coming from inside the tent. So pretty much invisible to everything at night
Is that discount REI tent goretex waterproof and breathable? Is it well insulated? Is it thermal/IR/light leak proof? Is it rip/tear-proof? You probably just got a brown tarp in a roughly similar shape and external thin aluminium rods lmao.
The manufacturer has to support the product for 20+ years... It has to meet milspec to the letter.... Meaning they likely have a dew-point spec and a luminescence spec (making sure a specified luminosity does not escape the tent). I imagine they also need to meet milspec for thermal emissions. I can easily see how all of the hoops the company has to jump through jacks up their price to 10x from consumer.
Oh i dont think you would need this Carinthia has breathable materials like laminated gore tex and just put some cotton fabric over it to protekt the side that faces the ground
Luke's always used that $8 plastic sheet (which isn't a purpose built tent footprint) on all tents that size that he reviews on the principle that it's what he'd choose to use anyway.
Way to heavy to carry for a soldier which adds to load of ruck sack and not cost affective for individual issue. I call total B.S. We sleep in out bivi sleep system which is rated for summer / 30° below for winter and also has a waterproof cover. We have never ever seen one of these amongst all.of my military friends. Ever.
I slept in one for a couple months in 2011(we didn't have a name for it back then), they are out there, but at that time, were reserved for select commands and the personnel assigned to them. I carried a couple radios as a liaison to MARSOC, the tent added weight, but was worth it, as our packs got lighter, and we didn't have to carry the full sleep system.
of course not bcs nobody know how many buy and who they show bills not to tax payers it's secret bcs some senator put all in his pocket and few of his friends and you go die for them
Well it's for special forces .. are you spec ops ? If not it answers your question. Special forces are treatement much better then your common G.I Joe.
When working with SATCOMS, AM radios, GRA-50’s, umbrellas, DMDG’s and other transmission devices, this tent protects the user from aerial detection and real-time identification. It’s something that is part of a bundle drop on HALO/HAHO ops. Set up as stationary and used as a commo site.
TheOutdoorGearReview awesome man, I'm so jealous. Have fun! My mom made the trip to Nebraska from Texas. Wish I was there for sure. Here I am at work though.
He forgot to mention the button near there door that turns the left side of the tent into 4K holo screen that has access to wifi anywhere in the world, as well as hot coffee in -50 degrees.
we had something very close to this in the army for training. it was but maybe HALF this size. everything in the military is made out of gortex including a lot of their boots. which i loved immensely.
I’m a British Royal Marines Commando and we used this tent in subzero snowy temperatures in Norway. Best tent I’ve ever used. Not one bit of moisture got in the tent and we had 70mph wind smashing against it also.
A proper review 👍
Hmmmmm do I believe that?
@@bottlegen4803 why wouldn't you ?
Yes I am also a navy seal delat force sniper. I shooted bin laden
Riveting tale, chap! 😆 😂 😝
connecting tents for "advanced communications": you asleep yet bruh? .. -nah.. 😂
“Hey bruh... you got any skittles?”
@@DoktrDub yea but shh. Commander is right there
Lmfao x'D That made my day.
@@angelaengle12 lol nice 😂
“Hey bro you wanna trade that spicy cheese spread for skittles and my left nut” that spicy cheese spread is gold in a MRE!
I’ve got the stealth version of this tent. It’s somewhere in my garden.
But you cannot see it. Yes ?
Mines nuclear powered
This is the most underrated comment on this video
@@TheBigChad Agreed👍
Clever comment 👍.
I’d check it under thermal night vision, my guess is that it’ll block a good amount of the heat sig. Might be able to explain the price... that’s what the velvety stuff on the inside is.
nope. thats actually GoreTex (TM)
Noise dampening too i wondered. Also wondering if it lets radio/data signals in/out clearly and easily hence the advanced communications bit.
Ok mr black ops
@@JamesHavoc84 The advanced communications was in reference to connecting two tents together.
I would be very surprised if the tent wasn't coated in NIR blocking material (what uniforms have - at least in the Australian Army, the uniform changed design at the same time, and they got nicknamed NIR's) NIR isn't thermal though, that would be almost impossible to block, but rather it would help with NIR or what NVGs see (although NVGs do go all the way to SWIR) they help to reduce the reflected NIR light back so that NVGs don't pick you up as well.
I’m in the Canadian Army and I would absolutely invest in this tent ! Yeah $2300 + tax + tariffs is a lot, but doing Army stuff is a lot different than weekend camping. I’ve been in the Army for 17years, done tours overseas, and countless exercises in all weather. For me it’s difficult to put a price on the comfort of being able to crawl into your own dry space after being on patrol for days. Government contracts are a bit of a joke, and I’m sure they could produce this tent for less. But go try spending a month in a 20year old 5 or 10 man tent, with a bunch of snoring, farting, Army guys, and tell me you wouldn’t want this tent !!!
Sgt Dolan
Sgt Dolan
Shouldn't you country pay for your gear sir. I've never heard of
Military grunts paying out of pocket save your hard earn monies. You do have a family
@@DFox-ud3gx even here in the US army or any branch really. A lot and I mean A LOT of us buy our own boots because standard issue really messes up your feet.
@@DFox-ud3gx while they supply basic gear, a lot of soldiers choose to purchase higher end gear since military standard issue is generally not the best, especially with boots like @sheanae6815 said
@@DFox-ud3gxomg. What a stupid comment from a non-mil. Of course we purchase better gear for ourselves out of pocket. Military grade means =the cheapest bidder to produce equipment.
'able to connect tents together for advanced communications' = talk to your mate
Fat Splat spooning
*Tactical spooning
* TACSPO
😂
HAHAHA laughing so hard my cheeks hurt "Tactical spooning" i need one of these tents for me an my GF when we go camping. how much for shipping to Australia?
I dont go camping or sleep in tents but something about this channel keeps me coming back to learn more about tents. Thanks for the tent content
Con-TENTs
@@raym3239 (golf clap)
this made me actually laugh out loud
"Combat tent"
"Advanced Communications"
"Special Ops"
Each of these terms probably costs like $700.
Surprised they didn't use "Military Grade materials"😂
@@manuelvillalobos3959 if they had no one would have "bought" it. Lol
wouldnt be supriced if its the same as gaming industry right now. slap "gaming" to anything and it doubles the price
@@manuelvillalobos3959 I mean they developed a new version of Gore-tex just for it.
“Tacti-cool”
If you put that camo cover on and forgot where you pitched the tent you’d be literally finding nemo
Imagine the white cover in a snow storm lol.. hope you prepared to Bivy next to your invisible tent
That is such a good line...LOL!!!!
5:37 I guess "Advanced communications" include mouth-to-ear wireless pressure oscillations channels, line-of-sight hand codes, and ballistic deliveries of boots on snoring comrades.
Yes, very advanced
My best guess is that two tents might be able to utilise the tent poles as some sort of antenna or work with some type of field equipment.
Idk.
But my guess, is there is something more to the tent poles.
Could be useful if you have a injured person.
@@IQzminus2 Two cans and a string?
Voice-over-air capable.
They could have at least put in silenced zippers ...
hhh
Pete Air hahahah
That will cost an extra £2000 pls
Pete Air surppesed
Lolol
"Advanced communications" so you can give your homie a kiss goodnight on a lonely midsummer's eve.
Brokeback warzone.
So cute!
UA-cam allows editing of comments after getting thumbs up. I think you should lose the thumbs up if you edit your comment. If you agree give me a like.
Albert Albert It is bulletproof. As long as you aren’t inside it, you can’t be killed by a bullet.
And covered in solar panel material
I thought the same thing
It is, if a pistol shots at it from 2 miles away......
Albert Albert exactly how is this 20$ tent 2300$ ?
$300 for the tent, $2000 for the senator that passed the bill that ordered it to be made. How do you think people like Pelosi and McConnell get to be multimillionaires on a 170k a year salary?
170k annually is damn good money for a salary, a person could live literally anywhere in the US comfortably. The average US citizen barely breaks 20-25k in the same time span, just over 1/8th of their salary...as a voluntary public servant. These members of congress should (In a world with justice) be making around the same as our military servicemen/women or less, considering they're not on a battlefield. Our system today is an embarrassment to the constitution that started it.
Lol America is fucked
Very accurate
This is why you should never let the government fund a project, the price just skyrockets
Jobbernation
I'd want some Kevlar walls and firing ports for that price range.
my thoughts exactely and some kind of anti-bug-chemicals ...
The Permethrin coating is extra.
And someone to carry it!
Better yet, add wheels and an engine. And since it's already waterproof make it float and add some paddles.
and -it should be bullet proof...........at least
When I was in the service we were issued with a poncho which doubled as a tent.
We piled bushy branches on the ground to sleep on, and draped the poncho over top of us to keep the rain off.
WWII !?
@Jimmy they just slept in the tunnels
My dad said that on the beach at Anzio he slept in mud, because it was the most comfortable bedding available.
I did 2 combat tours and ops in several different countries (jungle, snow, swamp, desert, repeat). This tent is either made especially for the Air Force or any Officer. I dont see it being used by anyone thats really doing a "mission". You can last weeks in the field with a poncho. Extreme cold weather you want a better tent you can cook in and dry your clothes. Some lucky tent manufacturer got lucky with a huge expensive order from the government. Im sure its a great tent but totally useless in the military for war time applications. Great video brother.
I think he mentioned it was issued to special ops. So likely select few seal teams.
Cool
Silly Rabbit,
Tents are for kids. 22 years in the USAF and most of my missions required us to stay at the Marriott.
Redskins Pride WGIL that is fuckin funny
preston crofford lol exactly what I thought... though it not funny and should be a conflict of interest and illegal. Damn shame how people with ties draw in massive wealth from we the tax payers
Linked together, for tactical slumber parties. That is a lot of Goretex, honestly. It's a maybe 5 or 600$ tent with a 400% markup.
Glad you have one!
Tactical slumber parties are a 'Navy Thing', I guess.
The Chinese saw the tent and they loved it ! Now you can buy an exact copy of it at Walmart for a hundred bucks and it comes with a free rice cooker .
randy scott kikikiki 😂
Lmfao
.." it comes with a free rice cooker " 😂
Hahahahahahahahaah
No ! No ! No ! There is no reason at all to take a generator camping ! It's solar ! If you buy one today we'll even throw in a solar clothes dryer ! But wait ! Call today and we'll even throw in a big ass box of kitchen knives , a set of good luck oriental wind chimes a wonder mop and a miracle duster and a Slim Wilson album . Call today operators are standing by ! Just dial 1 (800) eat-shit .
The person from NEMO who got that contract over the line, now has the head office building named after them.
They make some of the best sleeping bags and pads you can buy. Especially for the money!....
This tent was designed for small 4 man long range recon teams setting up complex time consuming operations (you see the seals on tv jumping in on an objective at night the teams that field these are the reason they know where to jump) the Gor-Tex fabric blocks all IR, FLIR and thermal signatures ( we are not the only country with predators, ravens and thermal) the linking system is to have the ability to link data cables and electronic equipment without giving off said signatures no most marines and soldiers have never seen these because those soldiers and marines are not doing these types of operations or even know the operators that are doing them( most of the operators that use these have “BOB” or “Steve” on their name tape) and people will say it’s to heavy to move fast. Heavy is a relative term considering all the equipment needed for satellite communications and data transfer in a 3rd word country
teddy robinette finally an intelligent comment
Cody Kottke yes lmao
We were able to count bodies in them with Leupold 0603-2177 172830 LTO-Tracker Thermal (off the shelf, civilian use).
And we can see remote-control (IR remotes) flashing through them using old cell-phone cameras.
PhrontDoor who is we? And what unit?
@@hockeycody12 No unit involved. Just independent testing using a few different devices. Granted the LTO tracker is kind of pricey, and it's kind of bulky for a cheap drone -- it's at least 2 generations behind good modern (state of the art) milspec night-vision. But it also works differently from modern military night-vision too.
And I realize that an IR remote-control is probably not gonna pass military muster, security-wise... but it easily bleeds through the fabric.
We did not try any of the covers, however, because we only had 3 hours.
Better come with a gtx 1080
Lol
Russian Bear Yamaha R15?
A GTX 1080 costs as much as that tent. Damn miners.
1080 Ti
Russian Bear I have one in my pc
This tent is designed to be used as the comms tent for special forces while conducting special reconnaissance operations deep in enemy territory, as in a observation post. The secondary tent would be ideal to conceal a SATCOM antenna, like the GATR Flex, which runs for about 50k per antenna and a SDN-Lite terminal($$$). The height of the tent is also ideal for the commo Sgt. to operate the sat radio while on a kneeling position. This tent is not designed for regular army troops to sleep in, but to provide cover and IR concealment for SF forces, OGAs and chiefly their equipment, while performing recon. And is definitely not made for the recreational camper in mind.
Javier Leyva
Oh great, Javier, give all our top-secret defence information away to the commies why doncha. -;)
I think that as of recently those commie bastards are being served better than from a couple of YT comments... lolsky comrade...love the name btw
Javier Leyva that still doesn't justify its cost . the end user doesn't dictate price . scarcity, labor , materials , and kickbacks determine price.
it's the exact shape of a $40 1 person tent
privileged 😄, I know right !
Advance Linking Combat System
Soldier: Srgt I can't sleep alone
Srgt: Connect ur tent with me let's sleep together soldier.
Soldier: Copy that.
🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Son, er, you ever watch that movie er, Brokeback Mountain? er...
Sgt: "STFU boot. You'll sleep when you get tired enough. Stop talking to me."
hilarious... nice one.
This also blocks IR, Thermal, and NVG signiture. This is a huge benefit for those trying to avoid being spotted by the enemy and evading capture. Something no other individual military tent offers. currently
source? but that may make it worth the money.
Adam Woodworth I call bullshit
The lining looks to be similar to an NBC suit, hard to tell on video though
Most issue kit is non IR reflective
I was going to ask "how do you know", then I realized you are a veteran
Better be bulletproof for that price
Mike Bonet, it would cost a lot more to bullet proof the whole thing. Maybe where your head goes or you can just wear your helmet.
bulletproof, military grade ,30 pound foldable, 1 person house would cost so much more than 2.3k$
Vysair Lolno
ahhaaha
Mike Bonet ya I know
$2300 for a tent is an elected official's code word for "I'm making my associates wealthy while getting a cut behind the scenes"
Let me school on how Procurement works in the Military… Military is a mix of government and civilian organizations. When a requirement is identified, a host of people write up the request, the private sector answers that request, and a bunch of other people evaluate what the private sector provides as a solution. Someone else in the government makes a decision. Then an entirely different government organization fields the equipment and another organization provides logistics and sustainment for said equipment. When the equipment no longer has any use, yet another organization disposes of it. Every single person at every organization that touches that equipment loads their operating costs to the overall price of the equipment. So a $500 tent becomes a $2300 tent.
yep, the military industrial complex!
Actually 2.3k isn't bat at all.
Think about it.
This thing is probably made in the USA, with high quality materials (low ir signature and all) and in small numbers. So the R&D costs are high per tent.
Let's say you got $300 in material that leaves you with 2k in labor which would be 40h with a $50 payrate.
So a worker could make 1 tent a week.
I don't think it's a rip off at all.
@@SuperDeinVadda yep. Limited market for the tent, incredibly high specs, has to work 100%.
Like the $1000.00 toilet seats and $300 rolls of Toilet Paper 🗞️ if civilians had the spending habits of the military everyone would be homeless unless they purchased one of these tent's.
At first I was just like everyone in the comments, but after reading one guy's justification on the price it makes sense. Blocking all IR, thermal, and other scanning signatures, blocking all light internally, etc, sounds like it could be super expensive. For SEALs and other advanced combat fighters I could see these being super useful. Just not for the average soldier.
It still doesn't justify the price lol. It's only that expensive because it was built using government contract money
Expensive? Check. Heavy? Check. Bullet proof? Nope. Connectable to another tent so that you can cuddle your fellow soldier in the middle of the night? Check.
NO CHECKS *CASH ONLY!!*
Sneaking up and unzipping the tent to find 2 soldiers recreating the scene from Brokeback Mountain.......Priceless!!!!!
Thom When my mind is telling me nooo..but myy body..myy body, is telling mee yesss
lmbo
Thom wtf 😂
I was a grunt in the Army and we were never issued anything close to this. In fact we don’t even use tents out in the field . We slept on the ground and liked it!!!!!
Its for Officers...
I've just developed a ultra light weight tent. I will be marketing it shortly. It consist of para chord and a tarp. Weighs 3 pounds. Taking orders. Only $5000 each. Lol and thanks for all the spelling advice. I think the sarcasm is going over their heads and under their feet.
C Thibault , I will have 10 of them 😆 How much does it "way " again ? 😎
Brian Aitchison you're not cool
Brian Aitchison - Sorry, C Thibault is only selling to government agencies.
It ways a ton man. $5000 for paracord and tarp my dog lives better then that n it only cost $25 bucks
Sounds great! What's your paypal?
you and your wife in the tent and no moisture build up at all --- I don't think you should be bragging about that
Lmao.
He said none from rain tho.
best troll comment ive heard in a while...
That's too funny.
LMAO!!!!!!
Full light blocking, 2 shelters to be attached together, advanced communications. It's sounds like a clues for a camouflaged radio communications tent for reconnaissance or special forces.
Don't Ask Don't Tell
what happens in military tent. stays in military tent
In Russia for $2.3k you can rent an apartment for a year
same in romania...
That's 1 months rent for a 1bd in Denver. I've heard Moscow was the highest rent in the World though...
Not in Moscow.
Greg Huston where tf in Denver are you living lmao my brother rents a two bedroom for 1300
in America... no one cares.
Great tent thanks for the review. For those complaining about the weight consider that you don't need a wood stove and don't need to take both flys if you don't need it. It looks very sturdy. Of course the high price tag is due to government contractor overspending, this is a big reason why the US in so much debt.
I have a $700 can opener, it's only 2lbs and breaks pretty fast, I wonder if the military will buy it from me???
Canadian Prepper is it common for tents to hide heat signatures, may account for the price, love your channel btw
Canadian Prepper....Call the note on US debt......you'll get a big ass gun in your face. You saw what happened to the British when they tried to collect taxes right? We will pay you when we feel like it, money is no good if your dead. Rule number one....he who can kill the best wins everything every time.
@@udontneedtono9825 😂 the US owes most of its debt to its own social security fund. So yeah that’s a bit of a circular firing squad you got there buddy.
well, here you are again with your comments on how bad america is again. tell you what, why dont you get him to run for president in canada. im sure your country men will love that.
Wow... can I just say as someone who hasn't camped or used a tent since I was a little kid, the sound of you using the zips sent shivers down my spine . I was instantly in the backyard with my brother on a warm night in the school holidays. Such a unique tent-y sound.
Would be really cool if you could view the tent with a FLIR or similar device, and compare it to a commercial tent. If I can minimize a soldier's footprint that the price would be worth it in a combat scenario.
A light and thermal test would be very interesting.
Yep. Let's do that. Do a thermal and FLIR test. If they fail, then are their covers? Also are there different camo patterns?
Dude. It's a tent. A fucking heavy one at that. These are not used in combat, only in the rear where it's nice and safe.
Ben I don't think so. And i agree with Robert Amy. The fact that the material was designed between the tent company and gore itself indicates that there were some advanced requirements. The company also said it was designed for special operations, and that they were linkable for "communications and planning." I would bet that they emit no heat signature or light. Those requirements are what make it expensive.
a 99 cents rescue blanket works.
I did actually get to use one of these tents during my service in iraq some years back. Me and the other soldiers loved the zip together feature. Allowed us to roll together and cuddle each other when the battlefield got too scary or lonely. Nothing like being held at night by your fellow soldiers.
Gringle Spade oh Bae😂😂😂😂!
Haha yes! someone said the true reason for the connection. Man love Thursday’s
NO HOMO I GUESS
You would be a Navy man correct?
you've got some good example of "advanced communication" right here
I think I'd rather have a $1,500 rifle and a $500 tent.
I'm with you Mark, that's SCAR level money and I rather have the SCAR.
- Luke
what is terrible about the scar (except the fragile buttstock maybe)? only a HK416 could be better atm.
well... the $1500 gov't rifle costs $3k..
you can get a mosin negant for about $400 bucks
I can't buy a military rifle, but several consumer versions of the AR-15 or M4 are available for around $1500 - actually some as low as $750.. Try Rural King or Bud's Guns..
Thanks! Great Review. Very informative.
Thank you for the support my friend.
S&H
- Luke
I had one ALMOST identical to that one when I was in the Seabees back in '07, basically the only difference was it couldn't link up to another one. It was a huge step up from the shelter half I had in '04.
'advanced communications' - LOL
"tactical docking"
Makes is easy to say "Good night John Boy" that's advanced. What is really is, Clinton authorized it and the price and for every tent purchased she gets $1127 check snoops
Did you miss the memo ?
As we all know actions speak louder than words.
They use sign language in the military , the really hands on type.
I love you is not something they like to express vocally in the military so to do it hands on they need an advanced system.
As sort of reach over and "Actions speak louder than words" moment.
Liam Furlong HAHAHAHAHA
Master Q reach around*
Forget the ridiculous price tag, I'm out when he said 9 lbs! 9 lbs? No way am I carrying such a heavy tent. What backpacker in his right mind would spend 2300 to add 9 pounds to his base weight?
As far as the price, that is standard issue government contract pricing. Your tax dollars hard at work folks.
Tim Eubanks I would buy the tent if it was in the 200-400$ ranger. I'm a big guy so 9 pounds for a tent is no big deal for a bomb proof tent.
Tim Eubanks, I could not agree more. 9lbs would be the deal breaker for me.
crunkinthis you could get a "bomb proof" tent that is four season, will withstand any weather you throw at it for a quarter of the price and half the weight. This tent doesn't make any sense to me personally.
this weighs 1/3 more than my MSR FURY mountaineering tent..and i can bet the Fury would handle triple the wind this tent would. ive had it in 80+ MPH on Mt Hood..survived a storm that killed 3 professional climbers that same 3 days.
MSR Fury is way bomber than this tent and is 600$..if you can find one.
Wow, impressive. It's always interesting to see what you and Susie test out and review.
I’m pitching a tent just looking at it..............
Huh, weird seeing you here, haha!
OMG In Nam we Lucky To Have a Freakin Pancho LOL
Well would you just look at that
😎👍❗
Me too ! Amazing indeed if you consider my name ?
Made in china for $30
The price is FOR SURE inflated but its probably expensive to manufacture because of the gortex. that shit is EXPENSIVE.
lolol...
Am I the only guy who thinks Gore Tex is a joke? Every article of GoreTex I've owned still allowed me to get soaked.
El Salvador, believe me, I go out of my way to not buy Chinese :)
I own a pair of GoreTex Lowa Renegade 2's. Those things keep my feet bone dry in water/snow conditions. The downside is that they are terrible at breathing, and not a great summertime boot, or any GoreTex boot for that matter I imagine.
"Advanced linking combat system" sounds way too professional for just adding two tents together lol
Steven Ganji .....you’re right....it’s either “ two in tents “.....or “ too intense “......
Terry Capp stahhhp
What's so "combative" about sharing a tent with your buddy 🤣
arent u missing "tactical" ? xDD
Me literally just paying $100 for a 1 person tent:
dang thats an expensive tent.
Me watching this video:
Wow i got a great deal 😂🤣😂🤣
then there will be tents for 8 dollars in my country with decent quality
Pluggo the sluggo: what brands and models are we talking, and at what prices?
Dang for that much i expect it to be bulletproof!
Maybe it is.
@@ibrenecario7357 🤦♂️
"advanced communications" = farts.
@Sinjinbin 64 you sure it's not farts?
@Sinjinbin 64 nope. its for farts
I was thinking more like "jesus Garry have a shower please".
I figured it meant sex
Fart sex?
Throughout my entire military career in the Infantry I used my tent maybe twice, once in the field and once when I went camping with my civilian friends. Tents are more of a POG thing. Tax payers have been ripped off on this one.
Poncho hootch is the only way to sleep.
Lol active 12B totally agree this shit gives you a high silhouette and would get you killed.
Lol I would love to see you call a tent a POG thing at -50.
Vincent Sabatini not to mention my rpg can now take out more than one of y'all with that linking system. This really doesn't seem intelligent from a tatics standpoint. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But wouldn't you rather be fanned out a bit?
Tim Eubanks It all depends. If you're on the front lines, expect to be digging foxholes. If you're on a fob somewhere you might be able to sleep in a tent if the hooches arent up.
You Know After I left The Services I Never Thought Id Want To Sleep Outside Again But Ive Stumbled Across Your Channel Or Shall I Say This Channel Found Me And I Havnt Been Able To Stop Watching Your Videos .. Im Thinking Of Getting Back Out To Nature Again Thank You..
I am guessing it has vertually no thermal foot print or light leeks? That's why it's so expensive.
and apparently is a faraday's cage also...no RFI or EMI also... thats a tough claim to verify though as i couldnt see any of the usual seals for achieving that...the zips looked standard, etc.
and i bet it cost the manufacturer less than $20 each to make them. lol.
urban myth
Its the thermal footprint issue that probably drives that cost up...that explains why the manufacturer "worked with gore-tex". Good call.
@@timn4481 probably not, wouldnt make much sense to even try since youd be forcibly out of coms or routing coms outside anyhow. That said its probably very low detectable In Uv(Re:Nightvision) Thermals, and emitted light from inside and outside. I still think it looks like a heavy sweatbox with seemingly useless features ( i cant honestly imagine why linking would be useful).
2k and they couldn’t put in a couple mesh pockets on the inside?
If you have to un ass fast you don't have time to clear out your underwear drawer
that would be a other 500 $ ;)
Thing is though, they probably don't have time to pack and unpack their house-tent when they're using this. They might have to pack and leave quickly. It would be a shame to forget something in that lil mesh pocket inside the tent that they've packed up. Good luck unpacking the tent and finding that thing in the mesh pocket then packing it all up again with the enemy baring down.
@@F4ngel i feel like you could just not use the pockets then... theres no reason not to have some sort of gear storage. It either significantly increases the standard of living within the tent, or you just dont use it... right? I mean the goretex is probably cool, but other than that this thing looks like an absolute nightmare to use. There isnt even a vestibule to put boots under if its raining, like why wouldnt they add that
For $2000+ this tent sings to you when u go to sleep
🎼 money get back. Keep your hands off of my stack 🎼🎵🎼
Hey Luke, I have never used this tent....too much of an old guy. Costs are associated with the iterative R&D costs and testing under rigorous conditions in all kinds of weather and environmental conditions. Love your program and watching your kids grow into adults. Enjoy this season of life my friend. God blessings and much love from DC.
LMAO of course our government pays $2300 for a tent
dose it come with a butler name jeeves!!!!
ryan miller. Still way too much, should be under $100 for a one man unit.
You mean they pay for a $20 tent and just pocket (steal) the rest.
this is a big big bargain, they paid 15k for a toilet seat!!!
Jordan Sheppherd that's what they charge the joes for a new one when it gets a rip in it and they get sent back from cif
I actually got ahold of this tent about 4 years ago on eBay. I'd never recommend anyone carry this in a backpack as it's way too heavy for that. But I've used it while car camping. The best use in my opinion was during the winter when I pulled it in a sled. It's a great shelter but not great enough to lug over miles of rough terrain
It’s made of custom Gor-Tex, my Gor-Tex mountaineering jacket cost $600 so I can believe it. Since this version of Gor-Tex material was researched, developed, tested and built to meet specific military requirements Gor-Tex spent a shitload of money to develop it. Since it cannot be sold on the civilian market and only a very small percentage of the entire military will ever use or have the need for it Gor-Tex has to recoup their R&D for this product somehow and that’s why they cost $2,300. This is the same reason why your college text books cost hundreds of dollars and not the $35 you pay for hard cover books online or your local bookstore - very limited circulation.
Chuck Norris uses my 8000$ Fart-Tex ultra high performance tent. So it's worth it!
Your parent's cry at night at the moron they created, Priceless.
Yep, I'm a Thru-Hiker and am not surprised at the cost, with the R&D and materials I am surprised it didn't cost more actually. It serves a very specific purpose (my tent if you put on a head light stands out like a glowing beacon, not useful for being stealthy). Now would I want one? oh hell no! 9 lbs for a tent? That's as much as ALL of my gear put together for 6 months of hiking. haha
Don’t get carried away it’s still just a plastic. The reason it’s 2300 is because the gov. Is paying for it.
Gor-tex, you are paying 90% of the price to the R&D.
I worked two DOD contracts overseas and we obtained these tents through Navy Supply Corps even though we were assigned to setting up water bladders and fortified conex boxes for the US Army. We usually kept these tents in our own construction conex containers after a few small plywood barracks could be built for ourselves, depending on the mission. We did zip a couple of tents together to store small generators along with a few other tools when one conex got cluttered. Overall, our tents were pretty durable with only a couple damaged out of about two dozen or so. Pretty decent protection from the cold and almost waterproof.
Gortex was designed to allow moisture to escape yet keep heat in. It was expensive then, and still expensive now. I am sure with NEMO collaborating with Gortex, the final product would be extremely expensive, and very unique. That would account for the high price, for research, and development of a unique material only made for the Military.
For 2300 it should come with a hot girl inside
Put in a blowup "hot Girl" for you Shooter 42.
Why, that would just make it even more expensive....
@@Guants2012 not if you have to assemble her yourself
Or goat if your an aye rab
...or at leased a good quality latex blow-up.
U Americans! :DD
When I was in the norwegian army, every soldier had a rain-poncho that we could put together with one or more of our fellow soldiers. Two of us could make a two-person tent. 6 of us a 6-person tent, and so on. The biggest I used was a 10-person tent. This was used in summer, fall, winter and spring. No problem! I used it in northern Norway in -32 degrees celsius during the winter. And it was a RAIN-PONCHO! Light, and easy to carry. :D
kneppe telt
I love the way this dude never holds back on his thoughts!!:)
Advanced communications... What were they implying?
Hugs and kisses!
For conducting nightly booty raids
Whispering closely instead of shouting between tents.
I retired 2 years ago! After 30 years of service and have never seen one of these!!
its made for the tactical communicators hahaha
Stop@@YorkBowenVI
This better be a "bullet-proof" military tent, if it's the most expensive one.
Physical Bob Ross Bob was never in the Army. It was my Father who was a Sargent major in Gibraltar for 25 years. He is in heaven bless him.
Shut up
for that money must be and when finish sleep put him on your back and become Superman haha
Suzita what does that have to do with anything?
My WRSK kit back in the early 80’s had 1/2 of a canvas tent. You got 1/2 of the snaps and had to find a another with the other half to make a whole tent. We had to have this packed and ready to go at a moments notice.
The main part why it's so expensive is most likely that it isn't infrared reflecting and has a special inner or outer coating to be anti thermal conductive, so that it isn't seen on thermal cameras and infrared (night vision) cameras...
Kandi Klover that escalated quickly
That shit is so bunk, I've never come across any man made material that doesn't glow and stick out like a soar thumb with NVGs. Thermals on the other hand can be easily cloaked.
most of basic 120$ uniform got anti infrared and anti thermal tissus or treatments. Anti infrared is a 40 year old tech that cost nothing.
Tell me - why then american solders are visible on most of military IR videos we see on youtube? why they can put such material on their own solders?
If your own nightvision cant surpass the cloaking of your own soldiers then you're behind with the development of your nightvision. It's futureproofing, in case the "enemy" whoever they might be develops a cloak as good as on your own troops. In that event, it won't matter because your nightvision can already see through it.
Special forces requested a 9+ pound one man tent????? Great video as usual.
A single wall tent, as well. What a miserable design.
it's bombproof but noone but the special forces knows that
U gave the tent to China, they will make exactly same one for $50.
ye and rip next day
The low price of goods from china comes from mass production. This tent is restricted to some millitary and is likely to not be bought alot.
It’s not all knock-offs from China, a lot of it comes out the backdoors of the Chinese factories contracted for manufacturing the real deal. The Chineese have absolutely no business ethics for actual or intellectual property, they will do anything for a buck.
One that gives off zero light detection or heat signature like this one? I doubt it.
Nahh . $16 only
Maybe somebody else pointed this out already further down, but "advance communications" don't mean sharing a tent with your best buddy. It means you can pitch up two tents in an advance position (ie close to or beyond a frontline) and use that as a base. You can get a small team out of the rain, have some soup, discuss the next move, set up a radio and talk to HQ.
Basically two of these and a radio will make a very small, but camouflaged and roofed, command center.
Who ever negotiated the contract for the US military with NEMO should be discharged.
Yakubowski Bukowski
Maybe that guy got a cut from this
Nah, he deserves to pay back all the debt we are in for crap like this.
I guess it factors in development costs and consultancy as it is custom made
your profile pic 😂😂😂😂
Sure the contract was signed under Obama. President Trump would have gotten them for $200 each.
Cool Gear is great stuff..thanks for making the video..a few years later..the civilian models are 300- up on ebay...
Ever wonder how politicians get so rich with a public servant salary? This is how. Give the contract to someone who over charges, with the understanding that that person will give them a speaking engagement fee off 100,000.00 later. Or they will make a multi million dollar "Donation" to the good senators "charity". The tent costs 150.00 bucks. the corrupt company and senator split the differance of 2100.00. And that my friends is why all "public servants" are rich.
Yup, it's politicians and a few corporate scumbags scamming the taxpayers out of money that should be spent on defence.
that's why study hard, graduate, and get into politics.
Justin McCoy exactly, usually the agenda changes the person. Hence why even those bright eyed kids entering politics to make changes for the better come out dirty on the other side.
Don't forget that they buy shares in the company before the contract is signed
Welcome to America.
I've still got my Blacks tent which I've had for over 40 years and it's still 100% waterproof, well ventilated, and I still use it for solo camps.
I feel like this cost $2,300 in the same way ordering a burger from the cafeteria during a hospital stay cost $70, or the fact that just getting to the hospital a few miles away in an ambulance cost $7,500...
Saphire Throated Carpenter Ant actually hospital cafeteria food is very cheap
@@samboonjue1349 yeah. Cheap. And priced as if superb gourmet. This tent is $800 max to retail. The rest is political graft. (Legal theivery) but the government economic focus is on Europe because they didn't pay for the current election campaign.
Well yes - you could take a taxi to the hospital for a few bucks, or have your mates chuck you into the back of the ute, during a heart attack or after a serious road accident, or delivering your baby, or with your arm/leg/face ripped off, or with 3rd degree burns etc., but I think the Taxi driver would not be too happy about his upholstery and you would miss all the life-saving bits and pieces that an ambulance just happens to have. The cost is not what you declare, "On average, an ambulance company will charge anywhere from $350 to as much as $2,000 for a trip without insurance." Get insured.
Hamburgers and sandwiches and cakes at the hospital cafeteria cost the same as elsewhere, but you could call your Mum and she will cook/prepare these things perhaps just for you and drive alllll the way there like family and friends do. Get some friends. And research properly before making public comments. Lol.
An interesting style, but I will choose to leave out the multiple paragraphs of nonsensical drivel while making my point, to save us both time.
I have insurance. When you have insurance, you still get to see how your insurance was billed. My insurance was billed just under $7,500 for an ambulance ride. My insurance was billed just under $70 for a meal delivered to my room, the only meal I ordered being a hamburger.
You say "get some friends" but that is clearly a hypocritical statement, being that if you had any yourself you would not be so bitter.
yes my name is john doe i need to go to hospital
It's only $2300 because the manufacturer jacks up the price to sell them to the stupid government.
vzgsxr that’s how corruption in Russia works, the government says that they paid 2000$ for a product, but actually they only paid 1000$. Taking money left to their pockets
@@nimbleco8202 You are an idiot if you think that is how it works. I mean God forbid we blame capitalist for bribing republicans to give them a really sweet contract so they can soak in millions of dollars and give the government nothing in return.
On second thought after looking at Russia's military budget I have to say You must be right Nimble. I mean how else could Russia spend 11 times as much on their military then we do? I mean there is no way we could match their spending unless the corrupt democrats controlled the US and turned it into a communist paradise, right?
I can assure you that not how it works
It’s not that bad. Building to milspec always adds to the cost. In reality, goretex is expensive stuff. Jackets are regularly $500 and up. Add some costs for a custom color and surface coating. Quieter fabrics tend to cost more. A one person tent has much more fabric than a jacket. The camouflage covers are going to add to the costs. The customized connection feature adds costs.
On the civilian market, Black Diamond makes a single wall winter/mountaineering tent with side doors that runs $700 retail plus the cost of the footprint and an optional vestibule. It and the rest of that line of tents are in a proprietary waterproof breathable fabric bought from the original manufacturer not Goretex but similar. That line of tents is also only available in a very bright yellow which isn’t optimal for military use.
@@dg20120 Not to mention the cost for testing and some other required things when fulfilling a military contract.
I personally don't like war.
however I do love to benefit from new innovations governments come up with when preparing for war and finding they now have something better...
old patterns find their way to investors, then the public buy and enjoy some really amazing things....
Same with space programs. An incredible financial input for limited return but a lot of technology offshoot.
Sat nav is another biggy (most phones plug into GPS, GLONASS, or Beidou, all primarily military navigation systems). The internet being born out of ARPANET, even just plain old computers (ENIAC was military). Automatic door sensors have their history from shell fuses.
Modern life wouldn't be modern if it wasn't for our love of finding new way of blowing each other... to pieces.
@@Logarithm906 lol nicely put,
its nice that we no longer have to actually blow ppl up to know that it works now tho
much better in a simulator than reality :P
I have met great narrators - This guy has an astonishing ability to narrate. I assume he is not reading off an auto-queue, but even if he was. Awesome talent.
Use a heat-sensor you will figure out that it's actually specially made to be thermal-heat detecting proof.
...but it vents well? Military "thermal-heat detecting" or IR for you sciencey folks is extremely sensitive to temp differences so if it can vent and breath it won't hide temps is this thermal-heat detecting proofing only when all vents are closed?
@@ben-xl7ne it strongly depends on different factors. first of all, iv the vents are opened or closed, obviously. but what isnt that obvious is the size of the vents, which are pretty big and thats does indeed contrubute to the claim its heat detection proof. why you ask? cause you actually determin the heat differences and with those big vents the heat spreads way more outside, than it would with a much smaller vent.
another contributing factor i can imagine is the material itself. the moment he said something about the ffeling of the material inside made me thing that it may had slightly insulating properties. like glas for example, in infrared glas opaque, while in the visible spectrum u can look through it. maybe its something similar, result-wise. that it may not block everything, but a lot of it.
if now there is a a little bit of wind, that tiny bit heat gets scattered completly and the outside of the tend is cooled, making it then invisble.
however, pure speculation based your question.
@@locutusvonborg2k3
Thanks for the reply. Your speculation allowed me to think it through more and as long as the material has some form of IR absorption it will now be a much larger thermal mass that will act as a heat spreader. Vents look too be line of sight blocked by top cover so everything will dissipate over large area.
Side note: while glass absorbs IR it does still get hot which makes it emit its own IR which is weird to thinks about.
Side side note: microwaves are not absorbed by glass until it’s red hot then it does so you can heat glass with a blow torch then melt it in a microwave.
@@ben-xl7ne nono, u got me wrong, the material doesnt need an absorption, but an insulation. thats why i ment, the when he said the inside is so smooth. anyways, having the tent itself acting as a heatspreader is also possible. but that would make the scenario using it in sub-zero temps pretty bad. cause, you want to preserve the heat, otherwise it gets cold very quick. thats why i was more keen to the idea of insulation.
regarding the glass, it wasnt about getting hot or not. maybe it was a bad example, just wanted to explain that there are differences between visible and ir, which feel counterintuitiv.
i wasnt saying anything about microwaves tho. microwaves to increase the energy level of elements, which then leads electrons get to higher orbits. when they get back, the energy released is dissipated as radiation, different kinds of it. however, because glas itself is pretty inert, the microwaves dont do much, it only starts when heating the glass, so the elemets within the glass can be acffected. anyways, i do think such a tent with the told abilities is clearly in the possible range.
@@Oberkommando
I'm not a scientist so ehh I don't know the answer
I tested tents for the military, and some of the shit we saw roll though, was over complicated, and just flat out difficult to set up in adverse conditions.
The development requirements for mil spec equipment was cumbersome and clearly over the top for a tent. I'm saddened, but not surprised it ended up costing 2k.
honestly its only 3-4x times what a comparable heavy duty 4 season 1 man tent goes for on the civilian market, that isn't bad in terms of government waste. I have seen shit go out 10-12x...
Are there sturdy civilian tents using gore-tex (for a more reasonable price)?
Or maybe even gore-tex tarps?
A long time ago a few companies experimented with using Gore-tex for tents but the material never really took off. At the moment, I can't think of any company which makes one and I have never seen a gore-tex tarp before. - Luke
Dark Thoughts. Anything Goretex is expensive and they used a lot of Goretex to makes this tent when I first seen the tent and heard it was made of Goretex I said to myself thats a 2 thousand dollar tent I was close. I am a sailor and own all kinds of Goretex gear. Goretex = $$$$
Gore tex bivies are about it.
I know it is expensive, I have shoes using it too.
A consumer product would still be less expensive due to various reasons such as higher production rates = more savings on material orders and potentially automated manufacturing processes. Other products using it are not just expensive because of the material alone but other features and manufacturing processes as well, in case of this tent the actual production of it isn't actually that complex so the majority of the cost would come from the material itself.
there is a company called carinthia wich make a one man sniper tent made of goretex. it retails for around 600€, still much money but much less compared to this one
Back in late 70s ,i bought a north face ve24 that weighted around nine pounds and you could probably could have stuffed three people in tent ,but i soloed with it in the Canadian Rockies and around the west coast.It was heavy,but what wasn';t 40 plus years back . i was a tree climber,young and in excellent shape .The tent was a beast.Nothing would take that tent down,and it probably was a 400.00 tent in 1978 and i got it for 220.00 because it had a pin hole in the tent wall,rip stop nylon,and had a store that custom made my down bag sew a patch for two bucks on it.
I'm Army active duty and I have been issued an Army tent before in Hawaii. Some of the living conditions in Hawaii, specially with all the rain and centipedes (which bite really hard by the way ) makes it for us easier when it comes to taking care of our troops since they live in some harsh conditions. Now, with that being said, I ended up buying my own one person tent on Amazon which is ALSO issued by the Army and the reason I bought it was because it was 1/3rd of the weight compared to the one I was issued. Going up and down hills, mountains, with a full kit, bullet proof vest, rounds, extra gear, weapon and all the tons of stuff that we carry, an extra 6 pounds make a world of difference. The one I was issued weights about 9 pounds compared to the one I bought which is 3 pounds. In the military we have a saying, ounces make pounds, so we have to learn to pack smart and efficiently but most of the time we are giving a packing list and guess what, we are humping everything I just described PLUS the packing, PLUS the tent, so it takes a toll on our bodies. I've only been in the Army a little over 7 years now and I've already broken many parts of my body, plus lots of back pain everyday. Also, let me point out that only SOME units, a small percentage of the Army gets issued tents. It took me 5 years to find out they we had them. Overall, this tent looks awesome, seems like it can withstand a lot of weather abuse, however, it is not worth paying $2,300 for and I'm not surprised. I've seen some really dumb items cost over $4,000 dollars for something that should cost maybe $200 bucks. Anyways, this is just my opinion, but maybe I'm not seeing the bigger picture.
tater tots What tent did you buy?
Well when you're sleeping at night you want to be safe when you're at War. So you don't want the enemy using night vision or infrared heat-seeking observation tools. Which does tense have Ben made out of. So if a infrared enemy drone flew over it would not be able to detect heat or a shape coming from inside the tent. So pretty much invisible to everything at night
I bought an almost identical tent from REI for $150 - and mine has storage pockets.
D GARCIA name of the tent?
There's no way you bought a goretex tent for $150
Is that discount REI tent goretex waterproof and breathable? Is it well insulated? Is it thermal/IR/light leak proof? Is it rip/tear-proof? You probably just got a brown tarp in a roughly similar shape and external thin aluminium rods lmao.
The manufacturer has to support the product for 20+ years... It has to meet milspec to the letter.... Meaning they likely have a dew-point spec and a luminescence spec (making sure a specified luminosity does not escape the tent). I imagine they also need to meet milspec for thermal emissions. I can easily see how all of the hoops the company has to jump through jacks up their price to 10x from consumer.
Man for 2,000 bucks this thing better get me inside Area 51 as well
>most technologically advanced tent
>still requires ground tarp
Okkkkkkkk
Oh i dont think you would need this
Carinthia has breathable materials like laminated gore tex and just put some cotton fabric over it to protekt the side that faces the ground
Luke's always used that $8 plastic sheet (which isn't a purpose built tent footprint) on all tents that size that he reviews on the principle that it's what he'd choose to use anyway.
Does this tent block heat signature of occupant when sealed and shrouded as this might explain it's price.
5:31 normal people: "come closer so you can hear me better"
military jargon: "connected together for advanced communications"
9 pounds?! My back hurts already considering it's only one item in your bag.
but will it heal the hp for my entire party?
Dennis Vu You need to get the DLC first...
nope but you get a guaranteed bronze lootbox for each night spent in the tent
Way to heavy to carry for a soldier which adds to load of ruck sack and not cost affective for individual issue. I call total B.S. We sleep in out bivi sleep system which is rated for summer / 30° below for winter and also has a waterproof cover.
We have never ever seen one of these amongst all.of my military friends. Ever.
Maybe for the special forces? Idk because in the army we usually go back to base
I slept in one for a couple months in 2011(we didn't have a name for it back then), they are out there, but at that time, were reserved for select commands and the personnel assigned to them. I carried a couple radios as a liaison to MARSOC, the tent added weight, but was worth it, as our packs got lighter, and we didn't have to carry the full sleep system.
of course not bcs nobody know how many buy and who they show bills not to tax payers it's secret bcs some senator put all in his pocket and few of his friends and you go die for them
Its above your paygrade cpl
Well it's for special forces .. are you spec ops ? If not it answers your question. Special forces are treatement much better then your common G.I Joe.
When working with SATCOMS, AM radios, GRA-50’s, umbrellas, DMDG’s and other transmission devices, this tent protects the user from aerial detection and real-time identification. It’s something that is part of a bundle drop on HALO/HAHO ops. Set up as stationary and used as a commo site.
Hey Hey Folks, I'm off to film a Bushcraft Eclipse adventure! COMING SOON!
Be safe today! - Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview awesome man, I'm so jealous. Have fun! My mom made the trip to Nebraska from Texas. Wish I was there for sure. Here I am at work though.
Nice I can not wait! You must be very close to 100% eclipse there.
Hey Luke would you do a comparison between this and the Mountain Hardwear Hunker?
TheOutdoorGearReview I
Don't forget to take a friend for some "advanced communications"
He forgot to mention the button near there door that turns the left side of the tent into 4K holo screen that has access to wifi anywhere in the world, as well as hot coffee in -50 degrees.
For being military I can't believe there are no pockets on this thing lol!
we had something very close to this in the army for training. it was but maybe HALF this size. everything in the military is made out of gortex including a lot of their boots. which i loved immensely.