Just calling the fragrance "Diaghilev" was an acknowledgment of its inspiration, because the impresario Serge Diaghilev was famously obsessed with Mitsouko and even used to spray his curtains with the stuff!
Yes, Diaghilev is on another level, well said! I love Mitsouko so much, but the complexity of the 33 notes, the quality of the raw materials....really the work of a genius, the best Roja and my favorite fragrance of all time, I can write paragraphs about it. It's innovation more than imitation IMO, I can feel some Mitsouko there, but Diaghilev is much more than that, it adds a lot to the conversation, it's like an ode to the chypre genre throughout history, with Mitsouko being the most famous and respected, it is self-explanatory that Diaghilev was based on that. Damn, I love Diaghilev :))) Great great review, I enjoyed the video!
Diagilev is outstanding, its in my top three with Boadicea Blue Sapphire and Amouage Gold Man. Gotta get Mitsuoko though to compare it. I really enjoyed your video, get a full bottle, I found one on te second market full but without box for 500€, and it is easily wort that for me.
I sampled diaghilev in store its definately a rich opulent masterfully crafted scent but just couldn't justify its astronomical price tag particularly as you rightly mentioned its an acquired taste with limited occasions and opportunities to wear ...I can see the similarities to mitsouko though which i enjoy along with apres L'ondee Vol de nuit and Lheure bleu..... Adore the house of guerlain
Have you ever tested Alain Delon’s Le Temps D’Aimer or Iquitos? Le Temps is a DNA I have spent the past 30 years trying to find again. Such a beautiful, deep, memorable chypre. If you can compare the two I would be very interested as Delon shares many notes with Roja.
Agreed on all points. Such a thoughtful, informative and well reasoned comparison. One of the best fragrance related videos I've seen in some time. Thank you Raffi 🙏🏻✌🏻
p.s. although i have plenty of criticism about the price lol, pointing fingers at diaghelev as a copycat by some is very ironic, considering how close mitsouko is to cotys "chypre" that came out 2 years earlier. p.s.s., to anyone who likes these fragrances i highly reccomend you check out chypre siam by rogue perfumery
Vintage perfume house copy one another. Even Mitsouko took the classic chypre structure of Coty and use Peach to make a fruity chyphe yet most people never think Mitsouko copied Coty work! I do love Raffi note about us human and art of blending copying with little innovation!! Diaghilev to me takes knowledge from Coty work of the classic Chyphe, Mitsouko & Rochas femme to create something incredible!
The pure parfum of Mitsouko is the way to go. Im obsessed with it and the EDP. Not a fan of Diaghilev for whatever reason. It just doesn't speak to me.
Oh hey there, stranger. (lol) U Smells Good YT Channel made an interesting comparison video about this last year where I commented, "Diaghilev is the present while Mitsuoko is the memory." Just type 'U Smells Good Guerlain Mitsouko vs Roja Dove Diaghilev'.
@@RaffiDiranBassclefWho's Claire? 🤔 I suggest watching Lanier Smith's YT video review of Mitsouko from 9 years ago ('Mitsouko: Noir Masterpieces from Guerlain. fragrance Review'). I like how he tied it in with history, culture & art & its feature in a noir film. Quite relaxing & educational.
@@JanetVJohnson omg sorry Janet, total old man moment there 🤣 Yes, Lanier was a staple for me many years ago, love his demeanour & presentation style, will definitely check that out because 'Mitsi' as old as it is, is fairly new to me and I gotta say i'm starting to see why it's still going strong
@@RaffiDiranBassclefI think I'm older than you 😏 I'd be livid if I were your ex-girlfriend 😅 Speaking of which, I'm a fan of the House of Guerlain. My mom & I love the OG Shalimar & I'm curious as to how Jicky smells. I heard it's like a non-vanilla version of Shalimar.
@@JanetVJohnson Jicky is a little less brash than Shalimar. I have an extrait of Jicky in the old amphora bottles. AND, Shalimar was the first video I did: ua-cam.com/video/CSVd30TZwZw/v-deo.htmlsi=2Ix7S8MJPMffTAvf
I agree with Diaghilev being superior and more wearable than Mitsouko. Roja gets a lot of flack for "copying" other fragrances and making them rich smelling, but so many other brands do the same and they don't get the same level of criticism and their copying is referred to as "inspiration" and such. I think part of hatred towards Roja is his success and high luxury prices and part jealousy towards his image / status. Fragrance house have been copying each other since decades ago. Most coveted vintage 80s masterpieces all same pretty similar to each other, with slight variations but somehow that gets a pass.
Couldn't agree more. just look at what's considered an 80 masculine powerhouse and they're all just carbon copies of each other. I am a fan of old uncle Rog, but have only smelled maybe around half of his catalogue including the pierre de velay and some semi bespokes. It's near impossible to test here in Aus without blind buying full bottles from the UK
@@RaffiDiranBassclef I've smelled most of his regular line and own many of them. Once you go into the PDV and Semi Bespoke they tend to get redundant and usually smell like a mixture of a few of his regular line or re-interpretations of them. For example PDV 4 is essentially the discontinued Roja Dove London and PDV 56 is the discontinued 51 Pour Homme which I was glad to find again and bought it. I have started sampling the Semi Bespoke and so far haven't liked any of them enough to justify the $800+ price tag. I would say the Semi Bespoke is the most redundant line so far. Roja is still my favorite niche house.
@@deluxelex9056 that's an interesting take. London is one i wanted to try but never got a chance, and one of my friends tells me that PDV4 is amazing and the best one. I haven't tried that one yet either. I am keen to try the PDLN line because the note listings are aligned with my tastes but again, nowhere here to test so i have to drop serious cash, which i'm not doing...yet haha
@@RaffiDiranBassclef I have the PDLN line and #3 is the best one. A very good close enough decent clone of PDLN #3 is from the Egyptian clone brand Athena Fragrances and the clone is called "Athena". I have that one as well and it costs around USD $90 excluding shipping.
I agree with the initial about old perfume house copying. Even Mitsouko took the classic chypre structure of Coty and use Peach to make a fruity chyphe yet most people never think Mitsouko copied Coty work! I do love Raffi party note about us human and art of blending copying with little innovation!! Diaghilev to me takes knowledge from Coty work of the classic Chyphe, Mitsouko & Rochas femme to create something incredible!
Just calling the fragrance "Diaghilev" was an acknowledgment of its inspiration, because the impresario Serge Diaghilev was famously obsessed with Mitsouko and even used to spray his curtains with the stuff!
Wow, I did not know that about Serge. You can't blame him though, Mitsouko has its fair share of enamoured fans (addicts) 😆
This is one of the best reviews I’ve ever watched. I like how you used the book to relate. Beautiful!
Yes, Diaghilev is on another level, well said! I love Mitsouko so much, but the complexity of the 33 notes, the quality of the raw materials....really the work of a genius, the best Roja and my favorite fragrance of all time, I can write paragraphs about it. It's innovation more than imitation IMO, I can feel some Mitsouko there, but Diaghilev is much more than that, it adds a lot to the conversation, it's like an ode to the chypre genre throughout history, with Mitsouko being the most famous and respected, it is self-explanatory that Diaghilev was based on that. Damn, I love Diaghilev :))) Great great review, I enjoyed the video!
Diagilev is outstanding, its in my top three with Boadicea Blue Sapphire and Amouage Gold Man. Gotta get Mitsuoko though to compare it. I really enjoyed your video, get a full bottle, I found one on te second market full but without box for 500€, and it is easily wort that for me.
Awesome perspective. Love both and like you said they both have a place. You've got such a soothing voice too. Can listen to you all night.
Thank you kindly Jino 🙏
I sampled diaghilev in store its definately a rich opulent masterfully crafted scent but just couldn't justify its astronomical price tag particularly as you rightly mentioned its an acquired taste with limited occasions and opportunities to wear ...I can see the similarities to mitsouko though which i enjoy along with apres L'ondee Vol de nuit and Lheure bleu..... Adore the house of guerlain
Yeah Guerlain is the most iconic perfume house of all time. Too difficult to pick a favourite
Nothing beats Jacques Guerin. What he has done is the true wisdom of perfumery. It is the work of the universe.
Have you ever tested Alain Delon’s Le Temps D’Aimer or Iquitos? Le Temps is a DNA I have spent the past 30 years trying to find again. Such a beautiful, deep, memorable chypre. If you can compare the two I would be very interested as Delon shares many notes with Roja.
Hard to find Delon's fragrances in Australia but I'll keep an eye out
@@RaffiDiranBassclef I, too, am in Australia. So disadvantaged when shopping in many ways.
Agreed on all points. Such a thoughtful, informative and well reasoned comparison. One of the best fragrance related videos I've seen in some time. Thank you Raffi 🙏🏻✌🏻
Appreciate your kind words brother 🙏
my early 90s mitsouko eau de parfum is like falling into the deep end of a pool filled with oakmoss...and some peaches.
p.s. although i have plenty of criticism about the price lol, pointing fingers at diaghelev as a copycat by some is very ironic, considering how close mitsouko is to cotys "chypre" that came out 2 years earlier. p.s.s., to anyone who likes these fragrances i highly reccomend you check out chypre siam by rogue perfumery
Rogue has some absolute bangers for a very fair price
Thank you for the relaxing video Raffi!
my pleasure
It's amazing that a fragrance can be preserved that well for so long.
just a testament to how well they were made
Diaghilev is another level an icon and I’m going to buy a bottle is worth it every penny of it
it certainly is one of those special ones
Wow good ,imitation that gives modernity
Vintage perfume house copy one another. Even Mitsouko took the classic chypre structure of Coty and use Peach to make a fruity chyphe yet most people never think Mitsouko copied Coty work!
I do love Raffi note about us human and art of blending copying with little innovation!!
Diaghilev to me takes knowledge from Coty work of the classic Chyphe, Mitsouko & Rochas femme to create something incredible!
The pure parfum of Mitsouko is the way to go. Im obsessed with it and the EDP. Not a fan of Diaghilev for whatever reason. It just doesn't speak to me.
Oh hey there, stranger. (lol)
U Smells Good YT Channel made an interesting comparison video about this last year where I commented, "Diaghilev is the present while Mitsuoko is the memory." Just type 'U Smells Good Guerlain Mitsouko vs Roja Dove Diaghilev'.
Hi Claire, yes now that the alogrithm knows i like Diaghilev, Eugene's video has popped up in my feed. I'll have a watch tonight
@@RaffiDiranBassclefWho's Claire? 🤔
I suggest watching Lanier Smith's YT video review of Mitsouko from 9 years ago ('Mitsouko: Noir Masterpieces from Guerlain. fragrance Review'). I like how he tied it in with history, culture & art & its feature in a noir film. Quite relaxing & educational.
@@JanetVJohnson omg sorry Janet, total old man moment there 🤣
Yes, Lanier was a staple for me many years ago, love his demeanour & presentation style, will definitely check that out because 'Mitsi' as old as it is, is fairly new to me and I gotta say i'm starting to see why it's still going strong
@@RaffiDiranBassclefI think I'm older than you 😏 I'd be livid if I were your ex-girlfriend 😅
Speaking of which, I'm a fan of the House of Guerlain. My mom & I love the OG Shalimar & I'm curious as to how Jicky smells. I heard it's like a non-vanilla version of Shalimar.
@@JanetVJohnson Jicky is a little less brash than Shalimar. I have an extrait of Jicky in the old amphora bottles. AND, Shalimar was the first video I did: ua-cam.com/video/CSVd30TZwZw/v-deo.htmlsi=2Ix7S8MJPMffTAvf
I agree with Diaghilev being superior and more wearable than Mitsouko. Roja gets a lot of flack for "copying" other fragrances and making them rich smelling, but so many other brands do the same and they don't get the same level of criticism and their copying is referred to as "inspiration" and such. I think part of hatred towards Roja is his success and high luxury prices and part jealousy towards his image / status. Fragrance house have been copying each other since decades ago. Most coveted vintage 80s masterpieces all same pretty similar to each other, with slight variations but somehow that gets a pass.
Couldn't agree more. just look at what's considered an 80 masculine powerhouse and they're all just carbon copies of each other. I am a fan of old uncle Rog, but have only smelled maybe around half of his catalogue including the pierre de velay and some semi bespokes. It's near impossible to test here in Aus without blind buying full bottles from the UK
@@RaffiDiranBassclef I've smelled most of his regular line and own many of them. Once you go into the PDV and Semi Bespoke they tend to get redundant and usually smell like a mixture of a few of his regular line or re-interpretations of them. For example PDV 4 is essentially the discontinued Roja Dove London and PDV 56 is the discontinued 51 Pour Homme which I was glad to find again and bought it. I have started sampling the Semi Bespoke and so far haven't liked any of them enough to justify the $800+ price tag. I would say the Semi Bespoke is the most redundant line so far. Roja is still my favorite niche house.
@@deluxelex9056 that's an interesting take. London is one i wanted to try but never got a chance, and one of my friends tells me that PDV4 is amazing and the best one. I haven't tried that one yet either. I am keen to try the PDLN line because the note listings are aligned with my tastes but again, nowhere here to test so i have to drop serious cash, which i'm not doing...yet haha
@@RaffiDiranBassclef I have the PDLN line and #3 is the best one. A very good close enough decent clone of PDLN #3 is from the Egyptian clone brand Athena Fragrances and the clone is called "Athena". I have that one as well and it costs around USD $90 excluding shipping.
I agree with the initial about old perfume house copying. Even Mitsouko took the classic chypre structure of Coty and use Peach to make a fruity chyphe yet most people never think Mitsouko copied Coty work!
I do love Raffi party note about us human and art of blending copying with little innovation!!
Diaghilev to me takes knowledge from Coty work of the classic Chyphe, Mitsouko & Rochas femme to create something incredible!