When I was in High School we played this piece in orchestra with Mr. Crumb conducting (really!) Pretty cool school! In my four years there we hosted Husa, Crumb, Babbit, and Penderecki Quite a time to be alive!
I played percussion on the first performance. We used a train bell from the local park. We did the first performance because the Chicago Symphony orchestra refused to play other instruments without doubling fees.
I was in the audience for that performance at UC Boulder music school. David Burge conducted, if I remember right and George Crumb was there as well. You played the piece twice. I don't think I will ever forget that performance.
@@stueystuey1962 I wrote 'living' since Elliott Carter was a very great composer too. >Crumb invents always innovation tones, Breaking them od=ff on purpose bay more concentional style, or even quotations from Chopin, etc ... in France, Kaija Saariaho is growing very fast: she uses both her IRCAM syudies and the so-called 'spectral' school innovations?.
This is a great piece, but it doesn’t work as well without being able to SEE the orchestra too, because Crumb incorporates a lot of visual effects into the performance. To give one example, in conveying the procession of time, he has players walking across the stage as they play. I heard this in the early ‘70s played by the Oakland Symphony and Harold Farberman holding the stick. They were a terrific orchestra for new music, much more adventuresome than the San Francisco Symphony-mainly because of Farberman and later Gerhard Samuel.
Pulitzer Prize winning ass composing master of realities big and small tall and falling apart and into the frequency wave of one tone in the harmonic series of on note in one part of one sound,noise, musical and enthusiastical
Please I’m tryna understand these type of music, I know there’s a deep meaning. But I have no idea how to digest these type of songs, it’s too abstract for me. I can only see the top of the ocean and not experience inside. I don’t know how to be patient with the silence in the song, people say this type of song is beautiful. And I agree it must be but I wish I can see it too but I’m too blind. Please someone explain how to digest this song and what’s so great about it
I can only give you my own take on this music, but I think you should trust your own taste. It might not be for you, at least right now. To me the composer works on several levels. One of them involves the actual spectacle of the performance: watching the orchestra as it’s being played. There’s a lot going on in the performance. Crumb portrays time passing by having some players walk from our left to right across the stage. Other players get up and walk over to the piano, and play into it. There’s a huge percussion section, and a lot of new ways of playing the instruments. You can hear the chanting and whistling, but in actually *seeing* it too you get a sense of being part of a ritual. But the meat of the piece is in its sounds, and you might approach their novelty without expecting them to behave the same way a traditional symphony would. Try leaving it for a few weeks and coming back to it. You might be happily surprised.
You might look at the piece from different perspectives. For example: Look at the distribution of notes among the different instruments. Who is doing what? That can be an interesting experience. Also just enjoying the harmonies of the chords and realizing, that there is intent in every musical moment can be quite a revelation. In any other case: Just chill and enjoy the music. Stuff you don't understand yet is best treated by listening to it a lot of times over an extended period of time. Don't over do it: You don't need to force yourself on the piece. But revisiting the piece once or twice a day for a month will do you a favor.😊❤
A bit of a scratchy vinyl at the beginning and in some other places but otherwise a great quality recording. An absolute engaging modern music without pretense. Nonetheless copying anyway this genius is impossible much like John Cage as well as Bartok and many others . Thinking for oneself is a prerequisite of a modern composer. There are only pluralistic schools of music as of the 1950's. Therefore the attitude shouldn't be reserved for only experimental music.
Floyd always had a rythmic basis, a pulse, like all rock music. The non pulse based a-rythmic nature of much composed modernist art music (or whatever it's called) is the fundamental thing that separates it from almost all rock music. Far more than the atonal thing does.
When I was in High School we played this piece in orchestra with Mr. Crumb conducting (really!) Pretty cool school! In my four years there we hosted Husa, Crumb, Babbit, and Penderecki
Quite a time to be alive!
What high school did you go to? That's a pretty veritable list!
Penderecki. You guys were very lucky!
Holy shit. My high school could barely keep the ceiling in the band room from falling in.
Cool school! When I was in middle school I was beat up for listening to music like this. Really.
@@kls4940 OH come on!
I played percussion on the first performance. We used a train bell from the local park. We did the first performance because the Chicago Symphony orchestra refused to play other instruments without doubling fees.
I was in the audience for that performance at UC Boulder music school. David Burge conducted, if I remember right and George Crumb was there as well. You played the piece twice. I don't think I will ever forget that performance.
wikipedia says it was premiered by Chicago Symphony in 1967, is that wrong and are you referring to that year?
Uma das obras mais incríveis que já ouví. Crumb é extraordinário!!!!
Verdadeiramente, estamos num outro universo musical!!
Parabéns à grande regência de Jorge Mester para esse belo clássico contemporâneo que funde Boulez e Bartók!!!
Crumb is one of the most fertile and original living composer of our time.
Wow. Strong statement. I will take it to heart. Fell asleep listening to this last night. Woke up to learn who and what I was listening to.
@@stueystuey1962 I wrote 'living' since Elliott Carter was a very great composer too. >Crumb invents always innovation tones, Breaking them od=ff on purpose bay more concentional style, or even quotations from Chopin, etc ... in France, Kaija Saariaho is growing very fast: she uses both her IRCAM syudies and the so-called 'spectral' school innovations?.
É assustadora a liberdade criativa de Crumb. Uma peça fantástica!!!!
I just chose a Pulitzer Prize winning piece at random. This creeped me out. I am going to listen sometime while walking alone in the woods.
¡Qué sorprendente forma de pintar con sonidos nuestro leve paso por el mundo!
¡MIL GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR ESTA MÚSICA!
omg and I say that without fearing God herself.. but OMG,, this is such a perfect musically composed piece.
Himself
@@carnmarth334 God Exists.
Fear Him.
OMG --- hehe
Herself*
This is a great piece, but it doesn’t work as well without being able to SEE the orchestra too, because Crumb incorporates a lot of visual effects into the performance. To give one example, in conveying the procession of time, he has players walking across the stage as they play. I heard this in the early ‘70s played by the Oakland Symphony and Harold Farberman holding the stick. They were a terrific orchestra for new music, much more adventuresome than the San Francisco Symphony-mainly because of Farberman and later Gerhard Samuel.
Timeless music meandering for no reason at all, wow♡. 8:27
Genius.
This reminds me of "Kosmogonia"!
Pulitzer Prize winning ass composing master of realities big and small tall and falling apart and into the frequency wave of one tone in the harmonic series of on note in one part of one sound,noise, musical and enthusiastical
I've been looking for years but have never found a a copy of this recording to purchase. Is there a reason for this? I would really like to have it.
Una gran pieza, pero no lo mejor de Crumb. En cualquier caso, eso es mucho. No es muy “sinfónica “. Me quedo con su música de cámara.
Please I’m tryna understand these type of music, I know there’s a deep meaning. But I have no idea how to digest these type of songs, it’s too abstract for me. I can only see the top of the ocean and not experience inside. I don’t know how to be patient with the silence in the song, people say this type of song is beautiful. And I agree it must be but I wish I can see it too but I’m too blind.
Please someone explain how to digest this song and what’s so great about it
I can only give you my own take on this music, but I think you should trust your own taste. It might not be for you, at least right now. To me the composer works on several levels. One of them involves the actual spectacle of the performance: watching the orchestra as it’s being played. There’s a lot going on in the performance. Crumb portrays time passing by having some players walk from our left to right across the stage. Other players get up and walk over to the piano, and play into it. There’s a huge percussion section, and a lot of new ways of playing the instruments. You can hear the chanting and whistling, but in actually *seeing* it too you get a sense of being part of a ritual. But the meat of the piece is in its sounds, and you might approach their novelty without expecting them to behave the same way a traditional symphony would. Try leaving it for a few weeks and coming back to it. You might be happily surprised.
You might look at the piece from different perspectives. For example: Look at the distribution of notes among the different instruments. Who is doing what? That can be an interesting experience. Also just enjoying the harmonies of the chords and realizing, that there is intent in every musical moment can be quite a revelation. In any other case: Just chill and enjoy the music. Stuff you don't understand yet is best treated by listening to it a lot of times over an extended period of time. Don't over do it: You don't need to force yourself on the piece. But revisiting the piece once or twice a day for a month will do you a favor.😊❤
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A bit of a scratchy vinyl at the beginning and in some other places but otherwise a great quality recording. An absolute engaging modern music without pretense. Nonetheless copying anyway this genius is impossible much like John Cage as well as Bartok and many others . Thinking for oneself is a prerequisite of a modern composer. There are only pluralistic schools of music as of the 1950's. Therefore the attitude shouldn't be reserved for only experimental music.
i'm a big fan of pink floyd, but this is awkward...
lol, I don't think this is supposed to be the same "Echoes"
Floyd always had a rythmic basis, a pulse, like all rock music. The non pulse based a-rythmic nature of much composed modernist art music (or whatever it's called) is the fundamental thing that separates it from almost all rock music. Far more than the atonal thing does.
It's you...