After I started with Peterson sweetened tunings, I find it hard to go back to the polytune. The guitar simply sounds rounder and the small frequency clashes disappear on the lower register. Its pretty clear when playing open E or G chords.
I love my Peterson Strobostomp. Clear display and intuitive. Thinking about getting the Stroboclip HDC for acoustic. Being really in tune (with maybe some sweetening) is very addictive. Also it’s great for setting intonation.
I use the korg pitchblack poly which has 2 strobe modes 2 ordinary chromatic mode and the polyphonic mode(all strings at once) flat mode(down 5 semitones) capo mode(up 7 semitones) plus drop D tuning, also true bypass and it works perfectly with bass up to 6 strings as well. As a sidenote the human ear can detect a tonal difference in the range of 5 to 6 cents sharp or flat.🤘
I like the Petersen Strobostomp. Easy to read, all kind of things like display colors which can be a stage issue, and the sweetened modes are really great. I also love having a tuner that I can use reliably for intonating intsruments. I have a Petersen headstock tuner too and that’s ridiculously easy to use.
+\- 3 cents doesn’t seem like a lot but the problem with being 3 cents off is when you are 3 cents sharp thinking you are in tune and the next person in your band is 3 cents flat thinking they are in tune and you are 6 cents separated from each other. That might not seem like a lot but it is enough to create unintended dissonance. There are just plenty of options out there now, there is just no reason for it anymore.
Correct. With that said, legendary bands have used these for decades, and even worse before that, and it worked just fine. I used the TU-2 for a couple of decades and never had a problem with my bands sounding in tune. In a live situation, I don't really think it's an issue as long as everyone is dead center on the TU-2.
I've had my Polytune since its release, great unit and lives on my pedalboard. However I have the Peterson Strobo and the clip on tuners as well. I use the Peterson pedal for my guitar and Bass setups and the Clip on just for a quick grab tuner when I need one. I've been thinking about buying another Peterson to put on the pedalboard. It's just me, but the tests I ran I preferred the Peterson hands down. Nothing wrong with the Polytune, it's so slight you won't notice, but that's just me.
@@charlesb7831 pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. Probably prefer the Perterson but both are great and wouldn’t think twice if either was on my board.
I have a 1st generation Polytune and it's never done me wrong. I don't play live, so I have no issue with the display colors. Ever since I was a child, I've known that Peterson strobe tuners were the definitive tuners. My grandfather used a Peterson strobe tuner when he worked on electronics back in the day. Nowadays, I sometimes use my polytune and sometimes just use the tuner on my DAW. I'm not really worried about accuracy because my POS guitar won't stay in tune, as it is....
Great presentation, thank you. I bought a Boss tu3, worked well, but I use a few dropped and open tunings plus 12 string (ditto), in addition to standard tuning. The Boss display doesn't show sharps very well, just a small led indicator, this is a bit hopeless for me. I bought a Peterson...the display is brilliant, and it is better in virtually every way. It cost about a third more than the Boss, or if you want the Waza TU3, the Peterson is less, (in the UK).
I've had the tu-2 for a while, but it definitely struggles with the 6th string, in drop B tuning. I have it in chromatic and it just bounces back and forth. Is the 3 better? (Or the others for that matter)
I'm a big fan of the Peterson tuners. There is only one issue I've found with the "stobostomp" which is when you engage and disengage the pedal it has a momentary delay in the signal. If you do some lightning quick tuning during a songs you will notice the slight delay before you hear the signal of the guitar.
I just got a Sonicake Matribox 2 pro. The tuner is impressive. Seems to be accurate, quick, and easy to see. It can act as a mute or bypass in the settings.
Nice review of 4 great tuners. I have the polytune but (being a guitarist) I know nothing about anything other than "make guitar go kerrang and widdly" so it was good to see a comparison as the Boss TU-2 was the gold standard for many many years, but I drifted towards the polytune as it had more features and is nice and clear large display. You're correct as well that the more accurate strobe tuners are ideal for sorting out intonation on a setup. Anyway, thanks for the vid - cleared up a few things I already suspected :)
An interesting test would be these again a headstock tuner. For much less money and whilst saving some pedalboard real estate could they be a viable solution? Nice video, thank you.
@@alexwalker67 I had briefly thought about that as I have a few different headstock tuners, so thanks for the suggestion and maybe I’ll do a follow up!
I have the Poly Tune headstock tuner and it works great , so good that I gave my Snark tuners away (garbage anyway). And yes a 3 cent difference is a lot, I would not subject my audience to a guitar that was that far out of tune against another instrument.
I have the Peterson and the Polytune. Both great tuners but the Peterson is much easier to see and has a slew of modes and options including changing the color of the screen and sweetened tunings. The Peterson is accurate as hell. I highly recommend the Peterson over any of these.
That's very nice. Do you know if the Polytune has a correspondence between the position of the needle and cents? For example, the Korg "table" ones in which there is written "cents" to show that is literally the scale and even written "+20" in some points.
I forget which brand, but I have a strobe tuner for the workbench (OK, the folding table I get out when I work on a guitar), but most often, I'm either on a headstock tuner when I'm sitting at a desk playing through amp sims - more and more often these days, work and real life are a bummer - and a polytune on the pedalboard, which mostly lives in the overview mode. All about picking the right tool for the job, really.
@@jlambert12013 very good question. I wasn’t really thinking about that aspect, as I know, the sonic research turbo tuner is extremely fast, but since there’s nothing super perceptible, they’re all very close.
Interesting comparison - thanks. Used to have the TU-2, and liked it a lot. Later tried - and immediately returned - the PolyTune, for reasons I will share in a sec. Now using a Korg Pitchblack Advance (older/discontinued model), which is perfect for me. Their newer model of it is fine, too (have that on another board). But here’s the kicker: tonal integrity is NOT equal for all tuners, at least not for acoustic guitar, which is not as mid-centered as electric. Tuners need to thru-put a faithful acoustic signal, i.e. without compromising upper or lower harmonics that can make an acoustic sound oddly metallic, squished and dead when played through full-range speakers. The Boss was fine with acoustic, as are the Korg tuners. No noticeable „robbery“ of acoustic tone going on with them. The PolyTune, on the other hand, really messed with my tone (and yes, I am picky, and have very good ears). Not sure if the newer PolyTones are any better, but for me, I won‘t go back. One more point: In a live (hectic) setting, having an easy-to-read display is more important than total accuracy, and I dislike the Peterson‘s (and PolyTune‘s) strobe modes for that reason. Simple color cues are easier to spot while chatting with the audience in between songs while tuning. The Boss ones work fine for that, even with my poor eyesight. But the Korg pedals are better for my needs (more compact, sleeker, no battery compartment spring, etc.).
@@sandraandpaul I have tried that all and, from my experience, it was slightly quicker to react to the plucked note, but, showed no difference in accuracy. On paper it’s BARELY more accurate, but, it’s such a small, finite amount, it’s in perceptible to the human ear. We are talking fractions of a cent. No doubt the turbo tuner is absolutely awesome so if it’s what works for you, definitely use it and enjoy! Thanks for the comment!
when i first bought my peterson (clipon) i hated the double bar strobing, now after looking at these foot pedal ones i don't think i could use anything but the peterson strictly due to visual clarity.
@@joejohnson273 That sucks! Mine has been totally fine for many years. It happens though, unfortunately sometimes we get a lemon or things crap out sooner than they should. For example, I just bought a power tool yesterday to use on a home project and it died within 10 minutes of use. I exchanged it and so far so good with the new one.
While I have lots of love for Boss pedals, I have never understood the popularity of the TU series beyond the early 2000s. For 20 years, there have been more accurate, smaller, and easier to see tuners, and yet you still see them out there. It takes all of 6 minutes to learn how to use a strobe tuner and it baffles me why anyone would waste pedalboard real estate for something less accurate. TC and Petersen (honourable mention to Korg as well, their Pitchblack series are very solid) are unbeatable.
I more or less agree with this. I have some nostalgia for the TU series but I would agree as the TC and Peterson are my preferred tuners. One thing I will say about the Boss is reliability. They are virtually indestructible. For an up-and-coming artist on the road, barely able to get from gig to gig, scraping every nickel and dime, and doesn't; have a full-time tech, the Boss will be there working for you everynight.
@@Euphonicmusicschool Agreed, but so is basicaly everyone at this point. I've had a TC Polytune 2(Noir, because I'm classy) that's been used on easily 400 gigs, and I still have an old Planet Waves TruStrob (highly underrated pedal that I lament they stopped making) that could stop a bullet from a sniper rifle that is over 10 years old. Nothing against Boss, but they definitely don't own the patent on reliability anymore.
I have found the Boss TUNAHs to be magnificent tone suckers. A "BUFFER" is technically anything that limits the flow of anything else; so "buffer" is a misnomer. It should be called a signal "BOOSTER".
I am definitely not doubting your experience, but I have not had the same experience. In fact, many moons ago when I was still learning a lot about pedals, buffers, etc, I had an enlightening experience with the TU2. I had a decent sized pedalboard and noticed that my clean tone was a bit dull but when I engaged an OD pedal, the tone brightened/ crispened up A LOT. I was plugging into my Ernie Ball VP Jr. Volume pedal first in my chain and had a TU2 in its 'tuner' output. I moved the TU2 to be first in the chain, before the VP Jr and WOW! What a difference that made! My tone was now fairly evenly bright and lively on both the clean and OD tones. It was my 'ah ha' moment with buffers. With that said, I am sure there is a difference between different buffers in different pedals or with a dedicated buffer. With that said, I am perfectly happy with the Boss, TC, or Peterson buffer.
@@alkyhauler8185 The Peterson is new to me and while I prefer it, I have loved my Polytune 3. It’s simple and accurate. I, and I would think a lot of others, don’t necessarily need all the features of the Peterson. Also, the Boss tuners being built like tanks, are on more touring pros than any other. All great and all have their strengths. With that said, I really like the Peterson’s display.
@@Euphonicmusicschool All good points. I'm speaking more from an accuracy standpoint though. The Poly's are accurate to within 2 cents. And Peterson unit is accurate to 0.1 cent. Now most people can only recognize 2 cents diff with their ear but if you are setting intonation or striving for the most accurate tuning possible it's no contest. There's a reason a Peterson bench tuner is used by every guitar manufacturer on the planet. Accuracy...
The original Polytune was +/- 2 cents. The Polytune 3 in my video is, according to the manual, +/- .1 cents, at least in strobe mode. I do agree that Peterson is the general benchmark, used by countless luthiers on their bench.
@@Euphonicmusicschool Oh damn I didn't realize they had gotten that accurate. I want to try one as I do like the layout of the pedal and how the display works. I cracked the screen on my strobostomp and Peterson sent me a new glass replacement with instructions for free 😎
@@alkyhauler8185 That's super cool to hear Peterson helping their customer like that! I HIGHLY value good customer service and want to support companies like that. That is one thing about some of the big displays, it's a bigger target from falling objects. I really like the PT3. I leave it in strobe mode but still having a visible 'needle' just makes things easy for everyday tuning. The buffer is also great.
I have no doubt they are excellent given all the rave reviews. With that said, if you would like to donate one, I would be happy to do a shootout/ review. :)
They are fantastic tuners, the fastest reacting on the market, and are very accurate. 'Dust' these, nope! Especially the Peterson. It's all about what you need, what's important to you, and what you prefer at the end of the day. I would have no problem using one but prefer the Peterson for various reasons. I also really like the PT3, mainly because I am very used to it. Also, they both have a buffer which is very important to me as I use it at the beginning of my chain.
@@Euphonicmusicschool There were videos of the Peterson and Turbo side by side and the Turbo outperformed the Peterson had more lag time until confirming whether tuned ot not. You are entitled to your opinion, but it's not completely based on EXPERIENCE.. Probably more from the wallet. LOL The Peterson will get you there though. But when on stage, milliseconds feel like an eternity when all those are watching!
@@KP11520 that’s fair. Definitely go with what you are comfortable with. The Turbo I tried was great, definitely the quickest I’ve used, but for me, I didn’t love the display and no buffer took it off the table for me. Any perceived ‘lag’ from any of these is a non issue, at least for me personally. I have used the TU2 on stage hundreds of times in front of crowds from 5 to 20k people and never sounded out of tune, at least because of the tuner. 😂
@@Euphonicmusicschool Whatever works for you as you have enough experience! As far as Buffer? Not sure what you mean? But sound throughput when tuning can be OFF OR ON... Switchable. Right from the Instruction sheet: Configurable Output Normal mode is 100% true bypass with muted output. An internal switch can set it to pass the signal through when tuning. KEEP ROCKIN!
@@KP11520 The way I use my tuner is it mutes the signal when engaged but still has a buffered bypass when turned off. I tend to have a lot of cable runs (4 cable method) so I prefer a buffer at the beginning and end of my pedal board and as much true bypass in the middle as possible. This is based off of my personal experience and actually sitting down and testing different combinations. I may be wrong, so please correct me if so, but I do not believe the SRTT can mute when engaged but still have an active buffer when disengaged (non-True Bypass). I hope that makes sense.
Just buy a clip on tuner £10 and you'll be perfetly in tune, you can't beat it, Battery lasts about a year, All these videos are a loda b******x, dont waste your money.
Can't stand the strobe tuners. They always move a little, never stable, you never know if you are in tune. So how do you get 0.1 cent accuracy? And the moment you start pressing your strings or bending this changes anyway.
@@dDoOyYoOuUtTuUbBeE I felt the same way for a long time until I got used to it. You just have to be OK with the fact that it will never stop. Start to understand that when it’s barely moving, you are very accurately in tune. in my mind, the .1 cent accuracy would mean when the strobe is barely moving, I am more than likely in tune within one cent or less.
You’ll never be perfectly in tune, it will always be an approximation. The problem the tuners like the Peterson is it misleading the it more accurate than the other tuners. Yes specifications may say it’s more accurate but in the real world it’s no more accurate than any other pedal. Sure if you have half an hour to tune up you may get a marginally better tuning but when you’ve for a few seconds to tune between songs it’s a waste of time. What is more important it’s the every one in the band is using the same tuner and not different tuners, that way everyone is in tune relative to each player. When it come to tuners the one on most people pedal boards it the boss and that’s what you want. It’s better to be in tune with the band and not perfectly in tune with yourself.
After I started with Peterson sweetened tunings, I find it hard to go back to the polytune. The guitar simply sounds rounder and the small frequency clashes disappear on the lower register. Its pretty clear when playing open E or G chords.
@@alexcampos7953 which sweetened tuning do you prefer?
@@Euphonicmusicschool regular sweetened for my tele, acoustic for the nylon
I love my Peterson Strobostomp. Clear display and intuitive. Thinking about getting the Stroboclip HDC for acoustic. Being really in tune (with maybe some sweetening) is very addictive. Also it’s great for setting intonation.
Stroboclip is $46 on Amazon right now
I got the PolyTune to see all strings at once, especially for Floyd Rose style.
The poly tune also have a buffer included
I use the korg pitchblack poly which has 2 strobe modes 2 ordinary chromatic mode and the polyphonic mode(all strings at once) flat mode(down 5 semitones) capo mode(up 7 semitones) plus drop D tuning, also true bypass and it works perfectly with bass up to 6 strings as well. As a sidenote the human ear can detect a tonal difference in the range of 5 to 6 cents sharp or flat.🤘
showing up to the gig with just these
"Hey, anyone need a tuner?' Haha!
I like the Petersen Strobostomp. Easy to read, all kind of things like display colors which can be a stage issue, and the sweetened modes are really great. I also love having a tuner that I can use reliably for intonating intsruments. I have a Petersen headstock tuner too and that’s ridiculously easy to use.
I have a Polytune clip and it's been THE best portable tuning solution I have ever owned. I highty recommend them!
I fell in love with the built in tuner on the wireless Shure GLXD6+
@@Jimboslice911 I haven’t heard that before but hey, whatever works for you!
+\- 3 cents doesn’t seem like a lot but the problem with being 3 cents off is when you are 3 cents sharp thinking you are in tune and the next person in your band is 3 cents flat thinking they are in tune and you are 6 cents separated from each other. That might not seem like a lot but it is enough to create unintended dissonance. There are just plenty of options out there now, there is just no reason for it anymore.
Correct. With that said, legendary bands have used these for decades, and even worse before that, and it worked just fine. I used the TU-2 for a couple of decades and never had a problem with my bands sounding in tune. In a live situation, I don't really think it's an issue as long as everyone is dead center on the TU-2.
I've had my Polytune since its release, great unit and lives on my pedalboard.
However I have the Peterson Strobo and the clip on tuners as well. I use the Peterson pedal for my guitar and Bass setups and the Clip on just for a quick grab tuner when I need one. I've been thinking about buying another Peterson to put on the pedalboard. It's just me, but the tests I ran I preferred the Peterson hands down. Nothing wrong with the Polytune, it's so slight you won't notice, but that's just me.
@@charlesb7831 pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. Probably prefer the Perterson but both are great and wouldn’t think twice if either was on my board.
I have a 1st generation Polytune and it's never done me wrong. I don't play live, so I have no issue with the display colors. Ever since I was a child, I've known that Peterson strobe tuners were the definitive tuners. My grandfather used a Peterson strobe tuner when he worked on electronics back in the day. Nowadays, I sometimes use my polytune and sometimes just use the tuner on my DAW. I'm not really worried about accuracy because my POS guitar won't stay in tune, as it is....
Great presentation, thank you.
I bought a Boss tu3, worked well, but I use a few dropped and open tunings plus 12 string (ditto), in addition to standard tuning. The Boss display doesn't show sharps very well, just a small led indicator, this is a bit hopeless for me.
I bought a Peterson...the display is brilliant, and it is better in virtually every way.
It cost about a third more than the Boss, or if you want the Waza TU3, the Peterson is less, (in the UK).
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
You are welcome! It''s appreciated!
I've had the tu-2 for a while, but it definitely struggles with the 6th string, in drop B tuning. I have it in chromatic and it just bounces back and forth. Is the 3 better? (Or the others for that matter)
I'm a big fan of the Peterson tuners. There is only one issue I've found with the "stobostomp" which is when you engage and disengage the pedal it has a momentary delay in the signal. If you do some lightning quick tuning during a songs you will notice the slight delay before you hear the signal of the guitar.
@@Paul_West I noticed this as well, but I think in the overwhelming majority of cases, it’s a non-issue. I do think your point is valid though.
@@Euphonicmusicschool fully agree, no pedal can be perfect and I think it's the only fault.
I just got a Sonicake Matribox 2 pro. The tuner is impressive. Seems to be accurate, quick, and easy to see. It can act as a mute or bypass in the settings.
Nice review of 4 great tuners. I have the polytune but (being a guitarist) I know nothing about anything other than "make guitar go kerrang and widdly" so it was good to see a comparison as the Boss TU-2 was the gold standard for many many years, but I drifted towards the polytune as it had more features and is nice and clear large display. You're correct as well that the more accurate strobe tuners are ideal for sorting out intonation on a setup. Anyway, thanks for the vid - cleared up a few things I already suspected :)
@@martin-1965 I’m glad you found it helpful!
Peterson & Polytune great. Peterson good for a range of instruments. My forty year old Boss TU-12 (?) is still going strong too.
An interesting test would be these again a headstock tuner. For much less money and whilst saving some pedalboard real estate could they be a viable solution? Nice video, thank you.
@@alexwalker67 I had briefly thought about that as I have a few different headstock tuners, so thanks for the suggestion and maybe I’ll do a follow up!
I have the Poly Tune headstock tuner and it works great , so good that I gave my Snark tuners away (garbage anyway). And yes a 3 cent difference is a lot, I would not subject my audience to a guitar that was that far out of tune against another instrument.
I have the Peterson and the Polytune. Both great tuners but the Peterson is much easier to see and has a slew of modes and options including changing the color of the screen and sweetened tunings. The Peterson is accurate as hell. I highly recommend the Peterson over any of these.
Hard to go wrong with it!
That's very nice. Do you know if the Polytune has a correspondence between the position of the needle and cents? For example, the Korg "table" ones in which there is written "cents" to show that is literally the scale and even written "+20" in some points.
@@AllanFelipe Not to my knowledge but I have never looked, so maybe it exists?
I forget which brand, but I have a strobe tuner for the workbench (OK, the folding table I get out when I work on a guitar), but most often, I'm either on a headstock tuner when I'm sitting at a desk playing through amp sims - more and more often these days, work and real life are a bummer - and a polytune on the pedalboard, which mostly lives in the overview mode. All about picking the right tool for the job, really.
skip to 4:30 to actually get to the point of the video.
TU-3 is accurate enough for live situations and also a bit faster reacting tuner than TU-2. For setting up guitar I got TU-12.
I bought the canvas tuner. Love it!
Which one responds the fastest
They seem to respond around the same time.
Although the Polytune seemed to respond slightly quicker.
@@jlambert12013 very good question. I wasn’t really thinking about that aspect, as I know, the sonic research turbo tuner is extremely fast, but since there’s nothing super perceptible, they’re all very close.
@@mikkywhalan that was my very slight perception as well.
Peterson.
Peterson by far
Interesting comparison - thanks. Used to have the TU-2, and liked it a lot. Later tried - and immediately returned - the PolyTune, for reasons I will share in a sec. Now using a Korg Pitchblack Advance (older/discontinued model), which is perfect for me. Their newer model of it is fine, too (have that on another board). But here’s the kicker: tonal integrity is NOT equal for all tuners, at least not for acoustic guitar, which is not as mid-centered as electric. Tuners need to thru-put a faithful acoustic signal, i.e. without compromising upper or lower harmonics that can make an acoustic sound oddly metallic, squished and dead when played through full-range speakers. The Boss was fine with acoustic, as are the Korg tuners. No noticeable „robbery“ of acoustic tone going on with them. The PolyTune, on the other hand, really messed with my tone (and yes, I am picky, and have very good ears). Not sure if the newer PolyTones are any better, but for me, I won‘t go back. One more point: In a live (hectic) setting, having an easy-to-read display is more important than total accuracy, and I dislike the Peterson‘s (and PolyTune‘s) strobe modes for that reason. Simple color cues are easier to spot while chatting with the audience in between songs while tuning. The Boss ones work fine for that, even with my poor eyesight. But the Korg pedals are better for my needs (more compact, sleeker, no battery compartment spring, etc.).
From my experience the Sonic Research Turbo Tuner is way more accurate than any of these tested here, just try and test!
@@sandraandpaul I have tried that all and, from my experience, it was slightly quicker to react to the plucked note, but, showed no difference in accuracy. On paper it’s BARELY more accurate, but, it’s such a small, finite amount, it’s in perceptible to the human ear. We are talking fractions of a cent. No doubt the turbo tuner is absolutely awesome so if it’s what works for you, definitely use it and enjoy! Thanks for the comment!
You missed the best of all, the turbo tuner
@@phonodella5273 while I currently do not own one, I have used one. No doubt, it’s a great tuner!
Yeah, I've got 2 and peterson strobostomp hd.
when i first bought my peterson (clipon) i hated the double bar strobing, now after looking at these foot pedal ones i don't think i could use anything but the peterson strictly due to visual clarity.
My Polytune 3 crapped out after 15 months. Totally dead.
@@joejohnson273 That sucks! Mine has been totally fine for many years. It happens though, unfortunately sometimes we get a lemon or things crap out sooner than they should. For example, I just bought a power tool yesterday to use on a home project and it died within 10 minutes of use. I exchanged it and so far so good with the new one.
Much prefer the Peterson, only one thats legible outdoors at Noon on sunny day. And fastest readout
once you're used to 0.1 you can't go back to 1.0 or 3.0!
Polytune for me. Love the polymode and the £20 saving over the boss. The Person is nice but expensive.
@@11000038 I got the Peterson on sale for about the same price as a polytune. With that said, if the polytune was on sale, it would be cheaper.
Korg Pitch Black
While I have lots of love for Boss pedals, I have never understood the popularity of the TU series beyond the early 2000s. For 20 years, there have been more accurate, smaller, and easier to see tuners, and yet you still see them out there. It takes all of 6 minutes to learn how to use a strobe tuner and it baffles me why anyone would waste pedalboard real estate for something less accurate. TC and Petersen (honourable mention to Korg as well, their Pitchblack series are very solid) are unbeatable.
I more or less agree with this. I have some nostalgia for the TU series but I would agree as the TC and Peterson are my preferred tuners. One thing I will say about the Boss is reliability. They are virtually indestructible. For an up-and-coming artist on the road, barely able to get from gig to gig, scraping every nickel and dime, and doesn't; have a full-time tech, the Boss will be there working for you everynight.
@@Euphonicmusicschool Agreed, but so is basicaly everyone at this point. I've had a TC Polytune 2(Noir, because I'm classy) that's been used on easily 400 gigs, and I still have an old Planet Waves TruStrob (highly underrated pedal that I lament they stopped making) that could stop a bullet from a sniper rifle that is over 10 years old. Nothing against Boss, but they definitely don't own the patent on reliability anymore.
@@adamcoe That's fair. Boss just has a loooong reputation of reliability that carries on today. Perception is reality for more than a few people.
I have found the Boss TUNAHs to be magnificent tone suckers. A "BUFFER" is technically anything that limits the flow of anything else; so "buffer" is a misnomer. It should be called a signal "BOOSTER".
I am definitely not doubting your experience, but I have not had the same experience. In fact, many moons ago when I was still learning a lot about pedals, buffers, etc, I had an enlightening experience with the TU2. I had a decent sized pedalboard and noticed that my clean tone was a bit dull but when I engaged an OD pedal, the tone brightened/ crispened up A LOT. I was plugging into my Ernie Ball VP Jr. Volume pedal first in my chain and had a TU2 in its 'tuner' output. I moved the TU2 to be first in the chain, before the VP Jr and WOW! What a difference that made! My tone was now fairly evenly bright and lively on both the clean and OD tones. It was my 'ah ha' moment with buffers.
With that said, I am sure there is a difference between different buffers in different pedals or with a dedicated buffer. With that said, I am perfectly happy with the Boss, TC, or Peterson buffer.
Sonic Reasearch ST-200 and ST-300. And Peterson strobostomp HD. Everything else is crap. Proplayer can't rely on inaccurate tuners.
I do not disagree with the awesomeness of the the Sonic and Peterson, TONS of pro player use the Boss and have for 30-40 years. 🤷🏻♂
is the tu 2 , off by 3cents lower or higher? 3 cent lower is good but 3 cent higher is not
@@sam-l2l9l it’s off by three cents in both directions. I pretty much agree with you that, tomy ear, things sound more out of tune when they’re sharp.
That's a potential of 6 cents between and given string.
Peterson all day every day and it's not really close.
@@alkyhauler8185 The Peterson is new to me and while I prefer it, I have loved my Polytune 3. It’s simple and accurate. I, and I would think a lot of others, don’t necessarily need all the features of the Peterson. Also, the Boss tuners being built like tanks, are on more touring pros than any other. All great and all have their strengths. With that said, I really like the Peterson’s display.
@@Euphonicmusicschool All good points. I'm speaking more from an accuracy standpoint though. The Poly's are accurate to within 2 cents. And Peterson unit is accurate to 0.1 cent. Now most people can only recognize 2 cents diff with their ear but if you are setting intonation or striving for the most accurate tuning possible it's no contest. There's a reason a Peterson bench tuner is used by every guitar manufacturer on the planet. Accuracy...
The original Polytune was +/- 2 cents. The Polytune 3 in my video is, according to the manual, +/- .1 cents, at least in strobe mode.
I do agree that Peterson is the general benchmark, used by countless luthiers on their bench.
@@Euphonicmusicschool Oh damn I didn't realize they had gotten that accurate. I want to try one as I do like the layout of the pedal and how the display works. I cracked the screen on my strobostomp and Peterson sent me a new glass replacement with instructions for free 😎
@@alkyhauler8185 That's super cool to hear Peterson helping their customer like that! I HIGHLY value good customer service and want to support companies like that. That is one thing about some of the big displays, it's a bigger target from falling objects.
I really like the PT3. I leave it in strobe mode but still having a visible 'needle' just makes things easy for everyday tuning. The buffer is also great.
add in a sonic research turbo-tuner and then get back to us ;)
I have no doubt they are excellent given all the rave reviews. With that said, if you would like to donate one, I would be happy to do a shootout/ review. :)
With all those tuners, you have no excuse to not be in tune
@@Gk2003m Indeed.
Polytune works better for me
I really like the Polytune 3. I like that while in strobe mode, there is still a 'normal' needle that is easy to read for general, everyday playing.
Sonic Research Turbo Tuners RULE! What a shame you didn't have theirs here to dust these.
They are fantastic tuners, the fastest reacting on the market, and are very accurate. 'Dust' these, nope! Especially the Peterson. It's all about what you need, what's important to you, and what you prefer at the end of the day. I would have no problem using one but prefer the Peterson for various reasons. I also really like the PT3, mainly because I am very used to it. Also, they both have a buffer which is very important to me as I use it at the beginning of my chain.
@@Euphonicmusicschool There were videos of the Peterson and Turbo side by side and the Turbo outperformed the Peterson had more lag time until confirming whether tuned ot not. You are entitled to your opinion, but it's not completely based on EXPERIENCE.. Probably more from the wallet. LOL The Peterson will get you there though. But when on stage, milliseconds feel like an eternity when all those are watching!
@@KP11520 that’s fair. Definitely go with what you are comfortable with. The Turbo I tried was great, definitely the quickest I’ve used, but for me, I didn’t love the display and no buffer took it off the table for me. Any perceived ‘lag’ from any of these is a non issue, at least for me personally. I have used the TU2 on stage hundreds of times in front of crowds from 5 to 20k people and never sounded out of tune, at least because of the tuner. 😂
@@Euphonicmusicschool Whatever works for you as you have enough experience! As far as Buffer? Not sure what you mean? But sound throughput when tuning can be OFF OR ON... Switchable. Right from the Instruction sheet: Configurable Output Normal mode is 100% true bypass with muted output. An internal switch can set it to pass the signal through when tuning. KEEP ROCKIN!
@@KP11520 The way I use my tuner is it mutes the signal when engaged but still has a buffered bypass when turned off. I tend to have a lot of cable runs (4 cable method) so I prefer a buffer at the beginning and end of my pedal board and as much true bypass in the middle as possible. This is based off of my personal experience and actually sitting down and testing different combinations.
I may be wrong, so please correct me if so, but I do not believe the SRTT can mute when engaged but still have an active buffer when disengaged (non-True Bypass). I hope that makes sense.
Just buy a clip on tuner £10 and you'll be perfetly in tune, you can't beat it, Battery lasts about a year, All these videos are a loda b******x, dont waste your money.
Can't stand the strobe tuners. They always move a little, never stable, you never know if you are in tune. So how do you get 0.1 cent accuracy? And the moment you start pressing your strings or bending this changes anyway.
@@dDoOyYoOuUtTuUbBeE I felt the same way for a long time until I got used to it. You just have to be OK with the fact that it will never stop. Start to understand that when it’s barely moving, you are very accurately in tune. in my mind, the .1 cent accuracy would mean when the strobe is barely moving, I am more than likely in tune within one cent or less.
If you’re of a certain age, you grew up with real strobe tuners (spinning disc, like a DJ turntable), so it’s really familiar
@@edwardhahn4911 I am young enough to not have grown up with strobe tuners, but my first few had an analog, VU style needle. 🙂
@@Euphonicmusicschool yeah, I was bummed when my Korg needle tuner died
You’ll never be perfectly in tune, it will always be an approximation. The problem the tuners like the Peterson is it misleading the it more accurate than the other tuners. Yes specifications may say it’s more accurate but in the real world it’s no more accurate than any other pedal. Sure if you have half an hour to tune up you may get a marginally better tuning but when you’ve for a few seconds to tune between songs it’s a waste of time. What is more important it’s the every one in the band is using the same tuner and not different tuners, that way everyone is in tune relative to each player. When it come to tuners the one on most people pedal boards it the boss and that’s what you want. It’s better to be in tune with the band and not perfectly in tune with yourself.