Hellz Yeah!! I Love this album! Total pre Punk record! And I think Screaming Lord Sutch’s vocals kick A$$!! Anytime I gotta Led Zep head at the house, I drop this LP on the deck at maximum volume and wait for the “WTF is this!” Truly a gem in Zep history that… you guessed it must be…PLAYED LOUD!!!
I own a copy of this album ( on vinyl) and never imagined in a million years that someone would bother to analyse it so thoroughly so many years later. The vocals are crap but some of the instrumentals are great. Thank you for this !!
Malc, it is an instrumentally powerful album. I can give the vocals a pass, it has the 60s spirit. I used to own this as a part of a Jimmy Page "session man" set i had like 20 years ago. I sold it lol. Now i regret this of course. Maybe i will grab a copy! Thank you for watching!
I bought this album on its release date, as it was advertised in advance by several radio ads in the LA area. Disappointing album, yet the vibe / memories of friends from that period in time are wonderful. Thank you very much for this episode and for sharing it on UA-cam!
This album is such a polarizing place right Michael? Glad you enjoyed this episode, it was a gamble to make view count wise, but i just had to do it. Thank you very much for watching!
I thought i knew allot about Zeppelin- definitely more than the average superfan. Since discovering your amazing channel, i realize how little i knew. Sincere thanks and appreciation for your hard work and dedication. It is obvious these vids are made with love by one of the few who truly appreciates and understands the magic that we mortals call Led Zeppelin ❤️🇺🇸 much love from Massachusetts friend!!
i remember my mother found this at the local thrift store back in the late 70's and bought it for me as a whim. (She always bought any rock type album for me & my sister). This was such a hit when I played it for my friends, I recall us all doing the 'swim' to (I think the track was) "I love you". - good times!
So cool your mom got you records, that's great parenting! This record has great moments. I mean it's not Zeppelin 2 but Bonham's sound is pure, in his prime!
Jeff Beck also played on a Carlo Little LP released posthumously after his death..... RIP Carlo Little , Jeff Beck, David Sutch and John Bonham in Rock N Roll Heaven. Update- a photograph of Beck and Little is pictured in the CD
the album sound like it's among friends, i can't explain it but it feels and siunds like the stuff you play with your friends for fun, it's awesome, thanks for introducing me to this great album
I imported this on CD from England in the early 90's. It took like eight weeks to arrive and at one point I considered it lost. I wasn't disappointed at all.
JCM , I was going to ask you to do a video on this album. I discovered this album from the book about Peter Grant called "Bring it on home" . I've been listening to this regularly every since. I also read that Bonham was such a huge fan of Screaming Lord that he road his bike miles just to see him in concert. Thanks for being on the same Zep wave length.
Bonzo rode his bike to see Sutch at the count for the by election in Stratford in 1963. He'd been a fan of The Savages and wanted to see what Sutch got up to, would he play at the count, cause a scene etc.
I can see why Bonham would be a fan. Lord Sutch really took things to the extreme. Artists like him really carried their lives like a performance for good and bad. RIP Lord Sutch. Thank you for watching!
I own a copy of this! The story I was told back in the day was that Lord Sutch was actually a hereditary Lord who was sort of a rebel and loved to hang out with rock stars. It’s good to get the whole real story!
Lord Sutch was a character for sure, a world of its own. I find it fascinating to read about artists like him, the guys who "didn't" make it big like Plant or Daltrey, yet lived their lives to the extreme, having no other option. Thank you for watching!
My pleasure! This album may not be a "masterpiece" but the playing is honest and pure. That makes it worth. It's better than Meat Loaf's Bat out of Hell lol.
Lol, I owned the Lord Sutch and Heavy Friends lp! Really liked Thumping Beat! Thanks for uploading this and bringing back old but not forgotten music memories! 👏
I have both of those albums (somewhere). My stepbrother sent me the first one from his post in Germany when I was 17. I was floored! Being such a huge Zep fan, *_how_* had I not heard of this?! All my bandmates made cassette copies of it for their collection. 5-6 years later, I was a nightclub DJ and I was at my favorite record shop in Clearwater. She not only got all the great house 12" dance singles from Europe for my late-night crowd, but she also had a great selection of old, used rock and pop. I was perusing through there and found the second Screaming Lord Sutch record! SCORE!!! These truly are pieces of British rock history gold!!! (And I agree ... it's *_definitely_* Pagie soloing on that song!)
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I've been listening to a lot of Page's session work lately. I like what he did on Tom Jones records . Tom's music has always been a guilty pleasure of mine. I actually met Jones when he played the casino where I used to work. Never met a cooler or more confident man in my life. And having watched the show from the wings of the stage I have to say he has a very powerful voice . He could have performed without a mic and I mean that literally. His voice was insanely powerful
Hey Daniel Thank you for watching! Flashing Lights does sound like a lost Page track for sure. I like the ambience and vibe it has. Light and Shade it is!
This is NOT where this response is supposed to appear. I was replying to @journeyintothebible! I don't know why my responses keep ending up here at @garydavenport3321 since I was NOT responding to that person. Now just watch. I'll bet this will be posted as a response to @EastmanD even though I'm not responding to them.
I am going to try this one more time: THIS IS A PUNK ROCK ALBUM! If you're expecting Led Zepplin, you might be in for a bit of disappointment. This is more akin to The Stooges.
It's obviously Pagey on lead gtr. He can deny it , but his style shines thru like a bonfire in a deep cave. Another thing: Jimmy was still playing the Dragon Telecaster in early May '69. He didn't go to the Les Paul until about May 27 or 28, 1969. That's because the Tele's pickup was malfunctioning.
A few weeks ago I discovered this record on Yesterday's Papers Channel so I decided to give it a try and I found that it was much better than I expected. I am not a Led Zep's head in any way so I was not aware of the deep connections you find with other LZ works but I appreciate your analysis. And now I think I should give a try to the Hands of the Ripper...
Piano Shuffle by THE ALL STARS is credited to Page. Anyone else find that odd since it's a Piano shuffle??btw " Flashing Lights" is at the end of the film " Logan Lucky" a Daniel Craig film. Sounds great!
I love that album. It's pure rock n roll and I like Sutch's singing. It's raw, heavy and rough around the edges. I don't see why any of the musicians would disown it.
A must have - or at least hear - for fans of 1965 - 1972 British blues . These are loose jams , rock not blues , but the gang is all here . At least 2 strong songs .
Good stuff, just for info all those musicians mentioned in the 4th+ minute were at one time or another in the live Savages band! Jimmy Page turned down the chance to play Lord Sutch's USA tour but recommended his guitar tech Joe Jammer . . . who ironically became a good friend of mine some 25 years later! 🎩
I think it's a great record and always have. Lord Sutch's vocals don't bother me. There are further similarities to other songs: "Baby Come Back" is essentially Roy Head's "Treat Her Right" with different lyrics, "Flashing Lights" borrows the riff from Bo Diddley's "Pretty Thing," and "L-O-N-D-O-N" borrows heavily from Gene Vincent's "Catman." But like I said, I love it anyway. Actually didn't care for the second one; the covers don't add much. (Huge fan of Ritichie Blackmore and Nick Simper. Go figure.)
Page was telling the truth when "Jimmy claimed this was somebody else on lead guitar." It's Kent Henry, for certain, that's definitely him at the 6:35 mark. KH was a brilliant guitarist who was a member of Steppenwolf during the tail end of their "glory years" run from '68 - '72. He was lead guitarist for Steppenwolf on the For Ladies Only album (1971) and toured with them in '71/'72. Before that, he was a member of Blues Image, and that's him playing the lead on "Ride Captain Ride." Before *that*, he was in a late 60's American psych group called Genesis (but not the famous Brit Genesis, obv). Kent was famous for his unique slide playing, you can hear it on the clip in question (around 6:35). I have several Steppenwolf boots from '71/'72 (he also was on John Kay's first solo album from '72), there's no mistaking his style in that brief audio clip you play. I became friends with him for a short time (he passed away years ago) and he let me record a cassette interview with him, which was supposed to be mostly about Steppenwolf. But we talked some about this project and he talked about jamming with Bonham and Page. I'll have to dig that out, digitize it, and share it.
While it can be Kent Henry, there are other moments where it's Page. I really appreciate you further developing his music contributions here on the comment. I definitely need to check out these Steppenwolf bootlegs, never heard them before. Thanks for the rock lesson, i really enjoy this stuff!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories When I get around to digitizing the interview I did with Kent, I'll isolate the part where he talks about Page, Bonham, and the Lord Sutch session and let you know when I post it. Here is a good (FM broadcast) Steppenwolf '72 concert that highlights Kent's playing < ua-cam.com/video/pW0lpwg8OuI/v-deo.htmlsi=xemhU26Yp_yI8Qwp >. Btw, since you're a Zep historian, I wrote a book on Van der Graaf Generator. I found it interesting that most bands rarely talk about their contemporaries (they probably saw them as vague competition) but everyone in VdGG bigged up Zeppelin: they'd listen to Zep 4 in the car as they toured Italy (were VdGG were SUPERSTARS) in '72, and even told me that they played like Zep at times when just jamming. You may not be familiar with the tune "Still Life" (a classic of the VdGG canon), but I was told that when the band kicks in at the middle of the tune (around 2:40), they were going for the same vibe/effect as when Bonham came in on Stairway < ua-cam.com/video/ibrqm5N05DM/v-deo.htmlsi=OEANkfuEQF7Os7zB >.
Like your viewer Michael Thomas, I bought the record the day it came out in 1970. along with the first Rare Bird album as they were shipped together. I was at the store with my Dad when the record shipment showed up. I was 13 years old and my dad had just got payed. "SCORE"! I was surprised to find a really good hard driving rock album that also languished in psychedelia. After punk rock, who could say that "The SUTCH" is a weak link in the album. I think he gambled correctly just as Marc Bolan and many others did. After all, these albums were for children and teenagers not music critics of the fine arts. Rock and roll is about fun and freedom, nothing else.
DON'Y BE FOOLED! THIS IS PUNK ROCK! I remember seeing this album on the inner sleeve of my Woodstock album, and taking an interest in it because of the musicians. Same with the live Jack The Ripper album. For years i couldn't locate it, then one day, I saw it in the dollar bin at my local second hand record store, along with the Jack The Ripper album, and bought them both. I had stored them away, and hadn't listened to them for quite some time. Well, one night, being in a heavy British blues mood, I thought I would put on the Heavy Friends album, expecting late 60s heavy British blues in the vein of early Fleetwood Mac, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and stuff like that there. After the first song, I said to myself SO THIS IS WHERE THE SEX PISTOLS GOT IT FROM! (In fact, Screaming Lord Sutch was a fan of The Sex Pistols, and both were to go on tour in 1977, but after the first night at The Marquee, some sound equipment got damaged, and The Sex Pistols were blamed, so Screaming Lord Sutch had to kick them off the tour.) When this album came out, it was considered one of the WORST rock and roll albums ever made. No wonder Jimmy Page denies that he's on it. He doesn't want to e responsible for helping to invent punk rock! This is early 70s proto-punk at it's finest! It's right up there with The Stooges' Funhouse, and is comparable to anything The Sex Pistols (Or even MOTORHEAD) ever recorded! It's a shame most Americans don't know about this album, but I'll keep playing it and annoying people with it until they finally see the light! Thanks for your insites on this album.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 I couldn't say for definite bro. All I know is I had a very steamy relationship with a slightly older gal when I was about 20 & her Dad played with Sutchie. Either way, Ritchie Blackmore turned out just fine eh. 👍
"Flashing Lights" is a great tune, but the rest of the album isn't anything to get excited about. Page has always been typically disingenuous and dismissive about his participation on it. He claims ignorance, but he wrote and played on most of the songs and produced the album, so he kinda owns it.
"He was a real Lord" Or so he says. I say it is Jimmy and Bonzo on the tracks. All the Page tracks are memorable in their own right and catchy in a Mickie Most sort of way.
It's a solid album musically but Sutch proves again one weak vocalist can kill it. Moon did the same thing with his "Two Sides Of The Moon". Stellar lineup but destroyed by the "leader".
The vocals of Lord Sutch on heavy friends is the best feature of the album It is easy to find and listen to the other cats on better produced albums but you can not find albums where a singer is having so much fun . Considering many of the musicians have gone the album is a contradiction being both happy And sad at the same time . The heavy friends is reflective of real life and makes it sound as Sutch .
This is a great comment, you are right on the FUN aspect being essential for rock and roll. As a statement i find it fascinating. Sutch lived the way he wanted to, and that is to be respected. Such a sad casualty of his own mind. RIP.
Lord Sutch music made me happy when I discovered his work. The story of his end does make me sad as I somehow think I know him through the music he made . I believe Lord Sutch was a genius . My favorites include Lord Sutch and his influence on how I feel about music . It must always be fun . Best wishes Merry Christmas
I own this one, and I'm still confused. I've read somewhere that Sutch "recorded his friends without their knowledge" which obviously wasn't true (unless that was how the second LP was made). Did Sutch offer to hire his rock luminary friends to record instrumentals "for fun", and THEN he went back and sang on them and released an album to cash in on everyone else's popularity? Or did everyone know what they were getting into?
The part of "without" their knowledge i think it's an urban myth thrown in for drama and publicity. When a session is held, all these details are sorted out. Had they not want to be credited, then that's their call. Now if they didn't sue Lord Sutch for it, then that says a lot. Now i think their complaint was the SOUND you know? It's demo quality in places. But Lord Sutch was BRAVE hahah, really that's how he conducted his whole life, and i respect him for that.
Stop the Presses! At the time of the album there were 2 other songs released on a single. Rock the Election/ Election Fever- Page is on both of these songs ( my source is Record Collector Magazine 1982) An article on Led Zeppelin members Pre Zep work. I'd like to see these songs on CD! I've never heard these yet :(. Also- the " Smoke and Fire" LP that I own was released in 1985. It lists Jeff Beck on " Would You Believe "( but not Page) the LP was released a few times- no liner notes- so perhaps somebody made a mistake?My copy has 4 other songs from " Heavy Friends" LP and none from NO INTRODUCTION NECASSARY. . " Would You Believe" is a mystery. Page is credited on it (See YESTERDAYS PAPERS presentation.) Perhaps someone else can shed some light? Lol- I realize this is a Led Zeppelin & solo members site . But it's your call if we pursue this. BTW what's your source on Nicky Hopkins playing on PJ PROBY Three Week Hero LP? He isn't in the CD credits or the discography in " And On Piano.....Nicky Hopkins" Book by Julian Dawson ( He was given access to Hopkins notes and memorabilia. I thought Jonesey was playing the piano on all the songs...
Hey Family Dogg, my source is a close listen and my ears :) I paid close attention to the style and textures beyond the album credits. The thing with the 60s period is that is a bit hit or miss when it comes to the exact details you know? That's so cool you were involved with the Fanzine, quite a tremendous experience. We need to chat more often!!
wow. i think i got this switched in my mind with PJ Proby - 3 week hero, which is interesting but primitave.. I don't think ive ever heard this Screaming Lord Sutch record, but seen it in shops times the many. Think ill pick one up. The voice is kind of proto-punk. I like it.
There was a 2 1/2 Page article in Hit Parader Jan 1971( written by Roy Carr) at the time of the LPs release but I think it was a reprint of NME. LOL- it was voted " Worst Album of All Time" but I like it. Has since been reissued as " Smoke and Fire" with 2 more songs Jeff Beck ( allegedly plays on ) I have the article Rock Magazine 1970 actually reprinted in a Lord Sutch book " The Man Who Was Screamin Lord Sutch" - Graham Sharpe. Page says he did NOT produce LP although he is credited. And one song he is on someone else did the solo. I think Page likes this LP as much as the YBs Live at the Anderson Theatre LP!! I like the Lord Sutch Lp. One good thing about the LP is Page liked the Sound of Mystic Studios and took his band to record a little of Zeps 2nd Lp. PS - Even John Paul Jones played on a session ( " mid 60s" according to Drummer Paul Francis quoted in " The YBs - The Ultimate Rave Up" book by Greg Russo. Not to criticize but VARIOUS ARTISTS- " Music From Free Creek" wasn't a band per say. It was supposedly for a soundtrack and it didnt accompany a film. Ive seen the album but only iwn the reissued 1 LP version. Keith Em 3:05 ersons parts were recorded in late 1969. Beck called the album " Music From RIP Offsville". The dbl LP was reissued in 1976 shorter single LP as " The Summitt Meetings". That was available privately through the mail in 2002 on CDR.... Clapton was credited as " King Cool" and Beck was credited as " A N. Other" THANX!!! Regarding the CAR on the LP cover - Eat your heart out Austin Powers!
"Smoke and Fire" is two albums combined, half "Heavy Friends" and half the ""No Introduction Necessary" album. The singer on that is Keith DeGroot. Beck was on it, Page also, JPJ when he was still doing sessions, and Clem Cattini was the drummer.
@@MCBhangramuffin Jeff Beck wasn't on No Introduction Neccasary LP. Around 2005 a bonus song was added to CD "Everyday"( Buddy Holly song.) I have all those LPs CDs
I won't do occult stuff as in esoteric stuff because it mostly relies in gossip. What i will do is occult or forgotten parts of their story :) Thanks for tuning in!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Great Call ! Mick Wall's book on Led Zeppelin, especially his 'expose' on Page's occult practices were like a cheap 70's Hammer Horror piece. It's obvious that Wall's insights into Page's occult world was based on gossip, innuendo and third party speculation. To this day Jimmy Page will not forgive or speak to Mick Wall again.
Jimmy 'busy' Page and John Bonham must have been working 24 hours a day because how did they find the time to play for Lord Sutch when they were on tour as well as recording an album?!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories You can only keep that up that pace for so long. They released two LPs in 1969. They definitely deserrve their hard earned success.
I had this album back in 1976! I think the solos are Daniel Edwards for sure. IF Page HAD played the leads, that would have been a "selling point" that SLS certainly would have taken advantage of...check out this track, Daniel could play. And very much in a "Page" and "British Blues" style. ua-cam.com/video/ImPdZLYG_5A/v-deo.html
I understand 100%. I used to have it on CD. It's Bonham's drumming that all these years later shines so bright you know? His sound was unique, even with Lord Sutch's vocals on top. The drum style and textures are the same as Moby Dick and Bring it on Home. So i would say it has archeological value haha.
It was legal because agreements were done and also, Atlantic distributed this at one point. Had it been illegal, the label would've acted having Page and Bonham in their best interest.
I think we in Britain should have elected the Monster Raving Loony Party in the 1970s. They would have done much better than the disaster that was Labour. 😂
I think he was way ahead of the game. His early 60's stuff was incredible, his style with the long hair was yet to come.I love this he is a cross between rocky Erikson, iggy pop and a lot of the punk that came later on.
NOTE: The black screen at the end was done on purpose as an homage to the memory of Lord Sutch. RIP.
I remember listening to BBC Radio 1 at home and they came on and announced his death.
I was surprised as I never thought he would kill himself 😢
Hellz Yeah!! I Love this album! Total pre Punk record! And I think Screaming Lord Sutch’s vocals kick A$$!! Anytime I gotta Led Zep head at the house, I drop this LP on the deck at maximum volume and wait for the “WTF is this!” Truly a gem in Zep history that… you guessed it must be…PLAYED LOUD!!!
Yes sir! If you play this one LOUD it speaks. Add in Bonham's grooves and you got a great record. Thank you for watching!
You are correct about "Pre" PUNK! This is right up there with The Stooges' Funhouse album.
I own a copy of this album ( on vinyl) and never imagined in a million years that someone would bother to analyse it so thoroughly so many years later. The vocals are crap but some of the instrumentals are great. Thank you for this !!
Me too
@@19581998 That’s doubled the sales total I would have expected!
Malc, it is an instrumentally powerful album. I can give the vocals a pass, it has the 60s spirit. I used to own this as a part of a Jimmy Page "session man" set i had like 20 years ago. I sold it lol. Now i regret this of course. Maybe i will grab a copy! Thank you for watching!
I bought this album on its release date, as it was advertised in advance by several radio ads in the LA area. Disappointing album, yet the vibe / memories of friends from that period in time are wonderful. Thank you very much for this episode and for sharing it on UA-cam!
This album is such a polarizing place right Michael? Glad you enjoyed this episode, it was a gamble to make view count wise, but i just had to do it. Thank you very much for watching!
I thought i knew allot about Zeppelin- definitely more than the average superfan. Since discovering your amazing channel, i realize how little i knew. Sincere thanks and appreciation for your hard work and dedication. It is obvious these vids are made with love by one of the few who truly appreciates and understands the magic that we mortals call Led Zeppelin ❤️🇺🇸
much love from Massachusetts friend!!
i remember my mother found this at the local thrift store back in the late 70's and bought it for me as a whim. (She always bought any rock type album for me & my sister). This was such a hit when I played it for my friends, I recall us all doing the 'swim' to (I think the track was) "I love you". - good times!
So cool your mom got you records, that's great parenting! This record has great moments. I mean it's not Zeppelin 2 but Bonham's sound is pure, in his prime!
Jeff Beck also played on a Carlo Little LP released posthumously after his death..... RIP Carlo Little , Jeff Beck, David Sutch and John Bonham in Rock N Roll Heaven. Update- a photograph of Beck and Little is pictured in the CD
I will get more copies, I HAVE TO hahahha.
the album sound like it's among friends, i can't explain it but it feels and siunds like the stuff you play with your friends for fun, it's awesome, thanks for introducing me to this great album
Page's playing and guitar tone is worth the price of admission.
Absolutely! The organic flavor of his playing, it's Zepp at his prime!
I imported this on CD from England in the early 90's. It took like eight weeks to arrive and at one point I considered it lost. I wasn't disappointed at all.
Oh man waiting for those imports is nerve-racking haha.
Thank you for watching!
Have this disc for a number of years. i read that some of the participants felt a little embarrassed by it. Thanks again for sharing this!
Yes they where, disowning an album is serious stuff hehe. But the playing i enjoyed, speciall Bonham right? Thank you for watching!
I have this album. It is indeed mind-blowing that this album isn't better known.
I think Bonham's playing should be the selling point rather than the others you know? His beats are prime Zepp 1969!! Thank you for watching!
Great stuff from his Lordship and Heavy Friends!!!!
That was amazing,thanks my friend.
Thank you for watching!
Flashing lights ,wailling sound and others ,great stuff,love it .i herad it in You tube about 5 years ago.
A moment in time, captured in the rapid changing year of 1969!! Thank you for watching!
JCM , I was going to ask you to do a video on this album. I discovered this album from the book about Peter Grant called "Bring it on home" . I've been listening to this regularly every since. I also read that Bonham was such a huge fan of Screaming Lord that he road his bike miles just to see him in concert. Thanks for being on the same Zep wave length.
Bonzo rode his bike to see Sutch at the count for the by election in Stratford in 1963. He'd been a fan of The Savages and wanted to see what Sutch got up to, would he play at the count, cause a scene etc.
I can see why Bonham would be a fan. Lord Sutch really took things to the extreme. Artists like him really carried their lives like a performance for good and bad. RIP Lord Sutch. Thank you for watching!
Your knowledge never ceases to amaze me!
Thank you for watching :) I really enjoyed Bonham's drumming here!
This was super interesting, thank you for putting in the effort.
Thank YOU very much for watching!
I own a copy of this! The story I was told back in the day was that Lord Sutch was actually a hereditary Lord who was sort of a rebel and loved to hang out with rock stars. It’s good to get the whole real story!
Lord Sutch was a character for sure, a world of its own. I find it fascinating to read about artists like him, the guys who "didn't" make it big like Plant or Daltrey, yet lived their lives to the extreme, having no other option. Thank you for watching!
Thank you Jose, I had heard of this session but had never actually heard it. Great find and thank you for digging this up.
My pleasure! This album may not be a "masterpiece" but the playing is honest and pure. That makes it worth. It's better than Meat Loaf's Bat out of Hell lol.
Your uploads are consistently superb! There are like opening up a mystery box of delights and surprises. Many, many thanks.
Hehe thanks man! I like the mystery box concept. I'm constantly digging to find these, let's see where it takes me! Have a great week!
Never knew about Lord Sutch or the album. Sounds like a power house instrumentally and explains a lot about Alice and Ozzy! Thanks JCM!
Thank you for watching! It was a powerhouse record from a Bonham perspective at least!
Nice job of telling the Screaming Lord Sutch story, I knew of him but didn't realize he recorded with anyone other than Page. Great video !
Lol, I owned the Lord Sutch and Heavy Friends lp! Really liked Thumping Beat! Thanks for uploading this and bringing back old but not forgotten music memories! 👏
So cool learning new stuff after 55 years. Thank you
Great to hear! Thank you very much for watching!
I have both of those albums (somewhere). My stepbrother sent me the first one from his post in Germany when I was 17. I was floored! Being such a huge Zep fan, *_how_* had I not heard of this?! All my bandmates made cassette copies of it for their collection. 5-6 years later, I was a nightclub DJ and I was at my favorite record shop in Clearwater. She not only got all the great house 12" dance singles from Europe for my late-night crowd, but she also had a great selection of old, used rock and pop. I was perusing through there and found the second Screaming Lord Sutch record! SCORE!!! These truly are pieces of British rock history gold!!! (And I agree ... it's *_definitely_* Pagie soloing on that song!)
Pretty cool album for the times
This was an awesome episode! Well done,Jose. ✌️
Thank you for watching! I love Bonham's playing here, from the first hit you know it's him right?
Once again another great doc...nice work, thanks for uploading. I haven’t heard these tunes since I first got a copy of Smoke & Fire back in the 80's
Glad you enjoyed this one! Thank you for watching!
I love Flashing Lights. Great playing on the track
One of the best tunes absolutely. Maybe they'll do a deluxe edition of this? Maybe i'm delusional haha but hey, hope is all we have!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I've been listening to a lot of Page's session work lately. I like what he did on Tom Jones records . Tom's music has always been a guilty pleasure of mine. I actually met Jones when he played the casino where I used to work. Never met a cooler or more confident man in my life. And having watched the show from the wings of the stage I have to say he has a very powerful voice . He could have performed without a mic and I mean that literally. His voice was insanely powerful
Interesting how "Thumping Beat" sounds like "The Girl I Love.." which became "Moby Dick".
Thank You JCM!!!! You always teach me something I don’t know or have never heard of!! Great stuff man!!!!🔥❤️
Any time! Always a treat to know you enjoy these Gary!
🌠Duuude...ANother Good One....I Didnt know about any of this......
Oh man Greg, please check out the album here on UA-cam. It's a very interesting listen! Thank you for watching!
"Cause I love you" riff was the same that was used during Bonham's original drum solo (Pre-Moby Dick) used in 1969 called "Pat's Delight"
Great catch, yes it does. What a concert highlight Pat's Delight was right! Thank you for watching!
Oh damn, I love Pat's Delight. It's hilarious and I bounce around the room during the wanky riffs.
Great stuff! 🔥🤘
Glad you like it! Thank you Steve!
Super cool episode. Funny ,I feel like I remember "Flashing Lights" listed as a Jimmy Page "solo artist" recording from very early days.
Hey Daniel Thank you for watching! Flashing Lights does sound like a lost Page track for sure. I like the ambience and vibe it has. Light and Shade it is!
I got the 8 Track tape when it was released . I bought the LP a few years ago. Nostalgia !
Great stuff. Thank you for watching!
I love it!!!
Thank you for watching!
I thought I knew everything about Led Zeppelin. What a gem!
Thank you for watching! This album is part of the Zeppelin story 100%, Bonham is rocking here!
If you're expecting Led Zepplin, you might be disappointed. This is a PUNK ROCK ALBUM!
If you're expecting Led Zepplin, you might be disappointed. This is a PUNK ROCK ALBUM!
This is NOT where this response is supposed to appear. I was replying to @journeyintothebible! I don't know why my responses keep ending up here at @garydavenport3321 since I was NOT responding to that person. Now just watch. I'll bet this will be posted as a response to @EastmanD even though I'm not responding to them.
I am going to try this one more time: THIS IS A PUNK ROCK ALBUM! If you're expecting Led Zepplin, you might be in for a bit of disappointment. This is more akin to The Stooges.
Totally Page on some leads it could be no one else.
JCM is the Best Rocumentalist.
Thanks so much Ray! Imagine if they did a deluxe version of this album with instrumental only takes?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories absolutely!
It's obviously Pagey on lead gtr. He can deny it , but his style shines thru like a bonfire in a deep cave.
Another thing: Jimmy was still playing the Dragon Telecaster in early May '69.
He didn't go to the Les Paul until about May 27 or 28, 1969. That's because the Tele's pickup was malfunctioning.
Oh man, great to know the Telecaster info there. It definitely sounds like him! The attack is classic Jimmy!
big THANKS ✌️👍
I had this on vinyl in the 80's. I never could warm to Sutch's vocals. They should re-release this as an instrumental album.
An instrumental re-release or companion disc for a Reissue of this album would be a great idea indeed!
A few weeks ago I discovered this record on Yesterday's Papers Channel so I decided to give it a try and I found that it was much better than I expected.
I am not a Led Zep's head in any way so I was not aware of the deep connections you find with other LZ works but I appreciate your analysis.
And now I think I should give a try to the Hands of the Ripper...
Oh that’s Jimmy’s playin’
It is right Steve? Fools no one hehe.
Also Adding to the Zeppelin connection- JPJ played on a " mid '60s" session. Source " The Yardbirds Having a Rave Up"- Greg Russo must have book.
Looking forward to this
Piano Shuffle by THE ALL STARS is credited to Page. Anyone else find that odd since it's a Piano shuffle??btw " Flashing Lights" is at the end of the film " Logan Lucky" a Daniel Craig film. Sounds great!
I love that album. It's pure rock n roll and I like Sutch's singing. It's raw, heavy and rough around the edges. I don't see why any of the musicians would disown it.
absolutely certain the solo at 6:40 or so is jimmy's. it's his style and sound
Right? The sound is very much Page Yarbirds 1968 and Zep 1. He can't deny this lol.
Kool, thank's 👍👍
A must have - or at least hear - for fans of 1965 - 1972 British blues . These are loose jams , rock not blues , but the gang is all here . At least 2 strong songs .
I agree with your statement 100% Thank you very much for watching!
of course - thank you ! @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
Flashing Lights is a cool song. I used to have this album
Thank you for watching!
Good stuff, just for info all those musicians mentioned in the 4th+ minute were at one time or another in the live Savages band! Jimmy Page turned down the chance to play Lord Sutch's USA tour but recommended his guitar tech Joe Jammer . . . who ironically became a good friend of mine some 25 years later! 🎩
I think it's a great record and always have. Lord Sutch's vocals don't bother me. There are further similarities to other songs: "Baby Come Back" is essentially Roy Head's "Treat Her Right" with different lyrics, "Flashing Lights" borrows the riff from Bo Diddley's "Pretty Thing," and "L-O-N-D-O-N" borrows heavily from Gene Vincent's "Catman." But like I said, I love it anyway. Actually didn't care for the second one; the covers don't add much. (Huge fan of Ritichie Blackmore and Nick Simper. Go figure.)
Page was telling the truth when "Jimmy claimed this was somebody else on lead guitar." It's Kent Henry, for certain, that's definitely him at the 6:35 mark. KH was a brilliant guitarist who was a member of Steppenwolf during the tail end of their "glory years" run from '68 - '72. He was lead guitarist for Steppenwolf on the For Ladies Only album (1971) and toured with them in '71/'72. Before that, he was a member of Blues Image, and that's him playing the lead on "Ride Captain Ride." Before *that*, he was in a late 60's American psych group called Genesis (but not the famous Brit Genesis, obv). Kent was famous for his unique slide playing, you can hear it on the clip in question (around 6:35). I have several Steppenwolf boots from '71/'72 (he also was on John Kay's first solo album from '72), there's no mistaking his style in that brief audio clip you play. I became friends with him for a short time (he passed away years ago) and he let me record a cassette interview with him, which was supposed to be mostly about Steppenwolf. But we talked some about this project and he talked about jamming with Bonham and Page. I'll have to dig that out, digitize it, and share it.
While it can be Kent Henry, there are other moments where it's Page. I really appreciate you further developing his music contributions here on the comment. I definitely need to check out these Steppenwolf bootlegs, never heard them before. Thanks for the rock lesson, i really enjoy this stuff!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories When I get around to digitizing the interview I did with Kent, I'll isolate the part where he talks about Page, Bonham, and the Lord Sutch session and let you know when I post it. Here is a good (FM broadcast) Steppenwolf '72 concert that highlights Kent's playing < ua-cam.com/video/pW0lpwg8OuI/v-deo.htmlsi=xemhU26Yp_yI8Qwp >. Btw, since you're a Zep historian, I wrote a book on Van der Graaf Generator. I found it interesting that most bands rarely talk about their contemporaries (they probably saw them as vague competition) but everyone in VdGG bigged up Zeppelin: they'd listen to Zep 4 in the car as they toured Italy (were VdGG were SUPERSTARS) in '72, and even told me that they played like Zep at times when just jamming. You may not be familiar with the tune "Still Life" (a classic of the VdGG canon), but I was told that when the band kicks in at the middle of the tune (around 2:40), they were going for the same vibe/effect as when Bonham came in on Stairway < ua-cam.com/video/ibrqm5N05DM/v-deo.htmlsi=OEANkfuEQF7Os7zB >.
Aware of Lord Sutch but not the album with all these legends. 🍻
Hope you enjoy Bonham's drumming here, it's such a treat to have his 1969 chops on the songs!
Like your viewer Michael Thomas, I bought the record the day it came out in 1970. along with the first Rare Bird album as they were shipped together. I was at the store with my Dad when the record shipment showed up. I was 13 years old and my dad had just got payed. "SCORE"! I was surprised to find a really good hard driving rock album that also languished in psychedelia. After punk rock, who could say that "The SUTCH" is a weak link in the album. I think he gambled correctly just as Marc Bolan and many others did. After all, these albums were for children and teenagers not music critics of the fine arts. Rock and roll is about fun and freedom, nothing else.
DON'Y BE FOOLED! THIS IS PUNK ROCK! I remember seeing this album on the inner sleeve of my Woodstock album, and taking an interest in it because of the musicians. Same with the live Jack The Ripper album. For years i couldn't locate it, then one day, I saw it in the dollar bin at my local second hand record store, along with the Jack The Ripper album, and bought them both. I had stored them away, and hadn't listened to them for quite some time. Well, one night, being in a heavy British blues mood, I thought I would put on the Heavy Friends album, expecting late 60s heavy British blues in the vein of early Fleetwood Mac, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and stuff like that there. After the first song, I said to myself SO THIS IS WHERE THE SEX PISTOLS GOT IT FROM! (In fact, Screaming Lord Sutch was a fan of The Sex Pistols, and both were to go on tour in 1977, but after the first night at The Marquee, some sound equipment got damaged, and The Sex Pistols were blamed, so Screaming Lord Sutch had to kick them off the tour.)
When this album came out, it was considered one of the WORST rock and roll albums ever made. No wonder Jimmy Page denies that he's on it. He doesn't want to e responsible for helping to invent punk rock! This is early 70s proto-punk at it's finest! It's right up there with The Stooges' Funhouse, and is comparable to anything The Sex Pistols (Or even MOTORHEAD) ever recorded! It's a shame most Americans don't know about this album, but I'll keep playing it and annoying people with it until they finally see the light! Thanks for your insites on this album.
Apparently, Ritchie Blackmore learned his first guitar chords from a guy in SLS's band.
And those chords changed rock history forever. Blackmore deserves a higher praise. He's up there with Clapton, Beck and Page
Not very likely. He started playing guitar at 11, and I doubt that he was around SLS stageshow at that time.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 I couldn't say for definite bro. All I know is I had a very steamy relationship with a slightly older gal when I was about 20 & her Dad played with Sutchie. Either way, Ritchie Blackmore turned out just fine eh. 👍
Wow never knew this existed
It does, please check out the album in its entirety here on UA-cam! Thank you for watching!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories will do always enjoy watching your uploads very entertaining
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I listened Lord Sutch Last week ❤❤❤❤❤❤
"Flashing Lights" is a great tune, but the rest of the album isn't anything to get excited about. Page has always been typically disingenuous and dismissive about his participation on it. He claims ignorance, but he wrote and played on most of the songs and produced the album, so he kinda owns it.
Yes, Jimmy kinda owns it, he can't run from this! Thank YOU very much for watching!
"He was a real Lord" Or so he says. I say it is Jimmy and Bonzo on the tracks. All the Page tracks are memorable in their own right and catchy in a Mickie Most sort of way.
@@markfx12 I believe he bought the title of Lord to show how ludicrous the title was.
It's a solid album musically but Sutch proves again one weak vocalist can kill it. Moon did the same thing with his "Two Sides Of The Moon". Stellar lineup but destroyed by the "leader".
Its a great record !!!!!!!!
I always thought "the girl i love..." riff kinda sounds like the kool part in "bring it on home". Ive never tested it out though lol
The vocals of Lord Sutch on heavy friends is the best feature of the album
It is easy to find and listen to the other cats on better produced albums but you can not find albums where a singer is having so much fun .
Considering many of the musicians have gone the album is a contradiction being both happy
And sad at the same time .
The heavy friends
is reflective of real life and makes it sound as Sutch .
This is a great comment, you are right on the FUN aspect being essential for rock and roll. As a statement i find it fascinating. Sutch lived the way he wanted to, and that is to be respected. Such a sad casualty of his own mind. RIP.
Lord Sutch music made me happy when I discovered his work.
The story of his end does make me sad as I somehow think I know him through the music he made .
I believe Lord Sutch was a genius .
My favorites include Lord Sutch and his influence on how I feel about music .
It must always be fun .
Best wishes
Merry Christmas
Great vid! Do one on Zep's involement with SuperShow!🎉😊🎉
I will do this but that's a part of the Zeppelin 1 story, so that's coming in the future!!! Promise!
I own this one, and I'm still confused. I've read somewhere that Sutch "recorded his friends without their knowledge" which obviously wasn't true (unless that was how the second LP was made). Did Sutch offer to hire his rock luminary friends to record instrumentals "for fun", and THEN he went back and sang on them and released an album to cash in on everyone else's popularity? Or did everyone know what they were getting into?
The part of "without" their knowledge i think it's an urban myth thrown in for drama and publicity. When a session is held, all these details are sorted out. Had they not want to be credited, then that's their call. Now if they didn't sue Lord Sutch for it, then that says a lot. Now i think their complaint was the SOUND you know? It's demo quality in places. But Lord Sutch was BRAVE hahah, really that's how he conducted his whole life, and i respect him for that.
Stop the Presses! At the time of the album there were 2 other songs released on a single. Rock the Election/ Election Fever- Page is on both of these songs ( my source is Record Collector Magazine 1982) An article on Led Zeppelin members Pre Zep work. I'd like to see these songs on CD! I've never heard these yet :(. Also- the " Smoke and Fire" LP that I own was released in 1985. It lists Jeff Beck on " Would You Believe "( but not Page) the LP was released a few times- no liner notes- so perhaps somebody made a mistake?My copy has 4 other songs from " Heavy Friends" LP and none from NO INTRODUCTION NECASSARY. . " Would You Believe" is a mystery. Page is credited on it (See YESTERDAYS PAPERS presentation.) Perhaps someone else can shed some light? Lol- I realize this is a Led Zeppelin & solo members site . But it's your call if we pursue this. BTW what's your source on Nicky Hopkins playing on PJ PROBY Three Week Hero LP? He isn't in the CD credits or the discography in " And On Piano.....Nicky Hopkins" Book by Julian Dawson ( He was given access to Hopkins notes and memorabilia. I thought Jonesey was playing the piano on all the songs...
Hey Family Dogg, my source is a close listen and my ears :) I paid close attention to the style and textures beyond the album credits. The thing with the 60s period is that is a bit hit or miss when it comes to the exact details you know? That's so cool you were involved with the Fanzine, quite a tremendous experience. We need to chat more often!!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories You got it!
You do excellent work on these mini docs. Are you a member of the dogsofdoom discord?
Thank you very much! I am not a member you know? Kinda ashamed to say but...how does discord work? :)
Lord Sutch
He was Sutch an interesting character!
wow. i think i got this switched in my mind with PJ Proby - 3 week hero, which is interesting but primitave.. I don't think ive ever heard this Screaming Lord Sutch record, but seen it in shops times the many. Think ill pick one up. The voice is kind of proto-punk. I like it.
Three Week Hero is another great record! Glad you tune in for this video. Lord's voice is proto-punk i agree. Bonham's drumming is on fire here!
The Page/Bonham sound is obvious
It is right? It has Zeppelin written all over!
Should have named Dave Vanian of The Damned at the beginning, his stage persona was definitely influenced by Lord Sutch.
There was a 2 1/2 Page article in Hit Parader Jan 1971( written by Roy Carr) at the time of the LPs release but I think it was a reprint of NME. LOL- it was voted " Worst Album of All Time" but I like it. Has since been reissued as " Smoke and Fire" with 2 more songs Jeff Beck ( allegedly plays on ) I have the article Rock Magazine 1970 actually reprinted in a Lord Sutch book " The Man Who Was Screamin Lord Sutch" - Graham Sharpe. Page says he did NOT produce LP although he is credited. And one song he is on someone else did the solo. I think Page likes this LP as much as the YBs Live at the Anderson Theatre LP!!
I like the Lord Sutch Lp. One good thing about the LP is Page liked the Sound of Mystic Studios and took his band to record a little of Zeps 2nd Lp. PS - Even John Paul Jones played on a session ( " mid 60s" according to Drummer Paul Francis quoted in " The YBs - The Ultimate Rave Up" book by Greg Russo. Not to criticize but VARIOUS ARTISTS- " Music From Free Creek" wasn't a band per say. It was supposedly for a soundtrack and it didnt accompany a film. Ive seen the album but only iwn the reissued 1 LP version. Keith Em 3:05 ersons parts were recorded in late 1969. Beck called the album " Music From RIP Offsville". The dbl LP was reissued in 1976 shorter single LP as " The Summitt Meetings". That was available privately through the mail in 2002 on CDR.... Clapton was credited as " King Cool" and Beck was credited as " A N. Other" THANX!!! Regarding the CAR on the LP cover - Eat your heart out Austin Powers!
It was "SUTCH" a strange record right? Hahah. You know your stuff! Hope you like the visual presentation :)
I LOVE your presentations - you are very knowledgeable for your age
"Smoke and Fire" is two albums combined, half "Heavy Friends" and half the ""No Introduction Necessary" album. The singer on that is Keith DeGroot. Beck was on it, Page also, JPJ when he was still doing sessions, and Clem Cattini was the drummer.
@@MCBhangramuffin Jeff Beck wasn't on No Introduction Neccasary LP. Around 2005 a bonus song was added to CD "Everyday"( Buddy Holly song.) I have all those LPs CDs
You're getting close to doing a Zeppelin/occult project?
I won't do occult stuff as in esoteric stuff because it mostly relies in gossip. What i will do is occult or forgotten parts of their story :) Thanks for tuning in!
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Great Call !
Mick Wall's book on Led Zeppelin, especially his 'expose' on Page's occult practices were like a cheap 70's Hammer Horror piece.
It's obvious that Wall's insights into Page's occult world was based on gossip, innuendo and third party speculation.
To this day Jimmy Page will not forgive or speak to Mick Wall again.
Jimmy 'busy' Page and John Bonham must have been working 24 hours a day because how did they find the time to play for Lord Sutch when they were on tour as well as recording an album?!
They were definitely TRIPLE BUSY indeed! What a year right? I bet the excitement alone kept them awake!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories You can only keep that up that pace for so long. They released two LPs in 1969. They definitely deserrve their hard earned success.
1:38 the ancestors of MF DOOM
Yeah, the solo is definitely JP, IMHO. Now go out and get yourself one of the new Sundragon Super Dragons!!!!!
I NEED one of those guitars, they are calling me haha. Thank you for watching!
Who is/was Daniel or Deniel Edwards? and Martin Khol? Kent Henry appears to be a nom de plume from minor LA Band can any one add anything here?
Could this be the first punk rock album 🤔
I had this album back in 1976! I think the solos are Daniel Edwards for sure. IF Page HAD played the leads, that would have been a "selling point" that SLS certainly would have taken advantage of...check out this track, Daniel could play. And very much in a "Page" and "British Blues" style. ua-cam.com/video/ImPdZLYG_5A/v-deo.html
Oh God no!
Hahah
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I heard that album once. That was too many!
This is awesome!but what would be more awesome...three week hero by pj proby!
I understand 100%. I used to have it on CD. It's Bonham's drumming that all these years later shines so bright you know? His sound was unique, even with Lord Sutch's vocals on top. The drum style and textures are the same as Moby Dick and Bring it on Home. So i would say it has archeological value haha.
Coming soon ;) i did talk about Three Week Hero on The Making of the New Yardbirds!
Great music on it his singing aint great the page bonham tracks rock the best
Didnt the boys back someone who had the n-word in one of the songs? Rofl🤣 I think it was around the Zep 1 days.
PJ Proby
@@rickjamz oh yeaaaa thats it.
Thank you for watching!
didn't such record this album illegally
It was legal because agreements were done and also, Atlantic distributed this at one point. Had it been illegal, the label would've acted having Page and Bonham in their best interest.
I think we in Britain should have elected the Monster Raving Loony Party in the 1970s. They would have done much better than the disaster that was Labour. 😂
Haha agree, their tax policy in the mid 70s was not a good idea. Led Zeppelin would say the same thing right? Thank you for watching!
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Yeah Zep couldn't play much in the UK mid 1970s due to it. The government would have taxed all their earnings 😂.
There’s a video on the tube showing some of TMRLP mandates were adopted by other parties.
Screaming Lord Sutch>>>>Alice Cooper>>>>Rob Zombie>>>>Marilyn Manson
Yes, i can see the connection there absolutely!
I think he was way ahead of the game. His early 60's stuff was incredible, his style with the long hair was yet to come.I love this he is a cross between rocky Erikson, iggy pop and a lot of the punk that came later on.
He stole his act from Screaming Jay Hawkins. Hell, he even stole his name.