We Are Ikwerre-Igbo, But Ndi Igbo Doesn't Accept Us, Ohaneze Should Address This -Andy Wabali
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- We Are Ikwerre-Igbo, But Ndi Igbo Doesn't Accept Us, Ohaneze Should Address This -Andy Wabali
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Every Igbo town has their dialect,same in Yoruba,Hausa etc Having a different dialect doesn't make you less of Igbo.
Exactly
My brother my name is chukwuebuka obi I am from agbor in delta state I am a proudly igbo stop this thing you are saying there is nothing like minority igbo ok we all are one Gowan just joined us with minority in south south
Thank you my brother, Igbos are one people. Imagine fulani that's in every countries in Africa recognize their selves as one people but us in Nigeria are denying our identity because we are not in the same region and some of my Igbo brothers in south south have forgotten that we all are in the same Old Eastern region before Hausa/ fulani divided us because of the civil war for us to hates our selves while in the north, they have north west, north east and north south but they are doing things together over there but wants us in the southerners to hate each other
Gowon didn't do shit. its d racism dat follows black man everywhere in d world. We hate ourselves more than outsiders hates us. Igbo has always neva accepted agbor as real igbos. Stop fooling yourself n living in fantasy. U might feel IBO, IBO dey calls u delta IBO. Dem dey call u aniocha man.ikwere man
Or ogbanke man. They neva call u Ibo man . Except when dem want huge crowd or when they wan fight for biafra. Dem call u agbor man. not Ibo.. . In bini n warri, they call una delta IBO.. only u and ur peope dey claim ibo wey nor dey claim u.. Open ur eyes n face reality, otherwise ur village people go continue to dey suffer d same rejection.. it's just like hausa saying one nigeria whereas we all know dat its not one nigeria. It ain't one IBO. It is IBO and delta IBO/ekwerre /igbanke. Get dat Into ur head..
tee this is madness when you say igbos is like a country of the past the name of town culture languages name of individual sound igbo you are 100% igbo if people of ika and igbakin is claiming ethnic group is just like nnsuka or nnewi people claim we are not igbo we're nnsuka we are nnewi every igbo is igbo we are in one umbrell are the igbo vicinity most become one country in Nigeria break
@@kestee3240 you are wrong my dear. I lived in Warri, and I have seen and addressed some anioma brothers and sisters as Igbo people, but the results i got from them were so discouraging. What I heard was we are deltans. Most times I do asked them is delta a tribe? Some will tell you we are kwale, while some delta Igbo. In all these I just wonder who did this to these people. They've been brainwashed to reject their tribe. My argument is that Igbo people cut across Edo, Delta, Benue, Rivers. And the 5 Eastern states in Nigeria. So, bro stop doubting your Igboness if you are from any of these places mentioned above. I encourage you to accept the reality. Leave the fantasy and encourage others to do so.
There's nothing like what you're saying that what we have is Igbo people and the others like anioma etc....as you mentioned in your write up. I am from Enugu. So we are Igbo people and I see Igbo people from those areas as Igbo people too. Just that some don't want to accept the facts.
You have forgotten to mention our igbo brothers in Cross River State and Akwa Ibom State
Wabali, you are being economical with the truth. Ikwerre have always denied being Igbo since after the war that ogbako ikwerre went and registered ikwerre as a separate language. I know that any group that denies their igboness must one day beg for it.Think of the psychological trauma ikwerre have been going denying being Igbo for years in the eyes of Nigerians who had known ikwerre as Igbo. No body will leave the fold and be happy.
They are Igbos QED, do you hear of Kwara Yoruba? or Kogi yoruba?. Igbo is Igbo no matter the geographical location. Igbo is a language and not geographical features
Not just a language, but a culture. Language is included in one's culture. Don't feel offended by this. I believe you know what you mean, but just wanted to put it literally
You are correct. They will one day see the folly of denying their language, culture and identity. We are Igbo, we are very proud of our GOD given identity. We have no apologies to make
I sincerely apologise to our brothers and sisters about the mistakes of the past....Let's fashion the way forward. Igbo bu ofu.
@Emmanuel Ezenwa research the abandon properties... Ikwerre lost their lands, hinterland Igbos lost properties, the Ijaws and the Ogonis gained in all.
@Emmanuel Ezenwa I understand from ur standpoints the views and expressions you want to pass through my brother but in times of reconciliation. ....Let's do away with the blame narratives that's my own standpoint. Igbo bu ofu and let's get our acts together to be stronger in dealing with our common enemy. Let Ohaneze ndigbo rise to its responsibilities of bringing unity to all igbos at home in Rivers , Delta Edo, Benue and in the diaspora. Enough said.
Emmanuel Ezenwa my it was the ijaw nation and the ogonis confiscate our properties through the help of gowon government immediately after the civil war in 9070
Nwanne, in all honesty, you have nothing to apologize for. The speaker is over here preaching to the choir, when he should direct his efforts to his Ikwerre brethren who for the most part have not only distanced themselves from Igbo, but have also demonstrated significant disdain for Igbo. He's here regurgitating and reminiscing on the involvement of Ikwerre sons in Igbo affairs in times past, which only affirms our stance that Ikwerres were always Igbo until they chose not to be anymore. How did we cast them out? Has any Ikwerre(even with their outright Igbo denial) been denied access or membership to any Igbo organizations? They've even held leadership positions in Ohaneze in recent times.
The speaker even laments how they were exempted from the distribution of 'abandoned properties' in PH. So, if someone handed them properties that were forcefully confiscated from their own Igbo brothers, they'll gladly take it and rejoice? So much for brotherhood. Ikwerre need to do some soul searching and stop confusing themselves...today someone like this will tell us they're Igbo, tomorrow they get agitated when called Igbo, and next week they're Bini people that speak Igbo and practice Igbo culture for as long as they can remember.
@@josephjohnoguzie4833 my brother you are right, we need to forgive who ever that have wrong us mostly our own brother and sister,I think we should not blame our brothers, our blame should be to Ohaneze leaders whom have not show consigne about other Igbos in other state, even the out brake of epidemic that broke out of Igbo's in Benue, non of them sends any form of delegation, they are crying about treatment they are getting from the governor, yet Ohaneze keep quiet, tomorrow we blame them.some months back Oba of Benin was in Rivers for people who claimed they are from Benin kingdom,even when they know they are not Benin,yet Oba of Benin visited them that show consigned.now our own Ohaneze is doing nothing expecting them to come to him.it's done on me that Ohaneze don't have plans for Igbo unity.
They are the ones that deny being igbos at every opportunity and claim to be from benin. They now see themselves as minorities and their igbo dialects seperate languages.
God bless you every day. 100 times and percent every day.
Urobo and Ikwere are they not brothers??
@@oc8452 what connect Ikwerre with Uhrobo genetically? Nothing
@@leonardorjioffor6683 you will not understand......
@@oc8452 A bini man can understand most of urohbo and bini likewise but not Ikwerre, but people from the SE zone can understand most of ikwerre. Wike for example is spelt in central Igbo as nwike or nwaike. But the (Edo clans,languages) bini, urohbo,esan, etc are neighbours of the Igbos and so we are close.
Igbo is igbo...no minority and no majority. I'm sorry to disagree with the concept of emancipation towards our igboness. We are all one.
Easier for you to say as you are not on the downsized side. Do you see Delta Igbo as Igbo before this Biafra movement and secession being talked about?
@@touchnot7334 I have always seen my delta brothers and sisters as part and parcel of igbo believe me....even towards the igbanki's in edo state. We are all one. Let's get rid of the ugly past. Anyi bu ofu nwannem.
@@touchnot7334 Delta igbo were always seen as igbos. Ofcourse the inclussion in the western region and then midwest caused a kind of seperation. But they knew they were igbo and didn't let the political division affect them, that is why the have the suffix igbo.
@@touchnot7334 Nne we have always seen the Igbos in Delta state as our brothers. Maj. Patrick Kaduna Nzogwu of blessed and beloved memory was from Okpanam Asaba Alaigbo and he led an almost successful revolution which resulted into the mass Murder of the Igbos in every part of Nigeria. Did any of the Igbos deny the fact that he was not Igbo and therefore, Igbos had no part in the revolution? We all stood our grounds together!! Remember Gen Achuzie and so many other Delta Igbos who were powerful and Galant commanders and soldiers during the Biafran war? IGBO WU OTU biko nnu!
Touch Not There are two things attached ,one is the question you asked and the other is some Anioma indigens don't see themselves as igbo
You have spoken well I new that Ohaneze have not done much to integrate other igbo,just look the president of Ohaneze have he visited rivers state since he took over or igbos benue that have been crying on newspapers epidemic broke out in that place no one I see from Ohaneze that visited them,tomorrow if they decided to stay on their own we criticise them,our leader are the problem.
I'm from Ngwa in Aba my elders used to sing music about lkwere people that they're our brothers.
Nwa ngwa oooo
@@princemike8724 full proud bro
Amadioha gbagbukwaa Buhari there. The first time an ngwa man is posting online. Nwoke ngwa, is there internet connection in ngwaland? hahaha. I am kiding you know that and I know you will smile over this joke but, if I say this to an Ikwere man, he will get so furiated like a fulani buhari. Ikwere wu Igbo wu Igbo.
To be frank, it is Ikwerres who deny being Igbos, yes there are some arrogant Igbo people who make matters worst
But Wike said that he’s not Igbo.
Saro Wiwa fought against the igbos and later ended up in Abacha’s belly.
@@regnatesso2621 saro is not ikwere
Yes. Ooo because of oil and forget IGBO is igbo.
They also follows those calling themselves delta Ibo . saying Igbo land is landlocked that southeast don't have access to the sea . But thank God for Aba seaport that's coming 😍💯
Njenje media thank you a lot for such reunion. I have learnt a lot watching This, may God help us . I still thank MNK for taking bold step because if not him hmmmm. Not just on media please you guys need to meet face to face it will go along way and have more time...It have to be done early for our younger generation
I have met a lot of people from ikwere, kwali, Asaba, Agbo whose names are Chukwuemeka, Chidi, and Ifeoma but will vehemently tell you that they're not Igbo. The truth is that they are not totally guilty of this. We at the other side of the river even shows a lot of discrimination. I'm from Enugu but there are people from other states in Southeast who believe that their own state is more Igbo than others and also that your dialect is useless because it doesn't sound like theirs. I'm happy we are discussing this. Nobody is a greater stakeholder in Igbo than others. That your people is more educated, wealthier or more technocratic does not make you more Igbo than others.
Emmanuel Ezenwa lie! Ikwerre have always been on the Igbo side. It's you in the South East that have always disenfranchised us.
@@festusfriday8733 guy so you believe some one can disenfranchise you as an igbo man ??? You really not serious
I would engaged u if u're Igbo, but u're not. Just know that this topic is some how complicated.
@Emmanuel Ezenwa you're talking rubbish, the citizens of ikwerre is not the problem, the main problem is their leaders that change their names during the war because of their selfish interest from hausa/fulani and again the Ohanaeze ndi Igbo who left them behind. only Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is doing a great job to unit all Igbos because he doesn't care about Nigeria money if so they would have bribe him but he refuse during his time in prison
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We need to start a reunion of all Igbo ethnic nationalities in Nigeria, this division was created by those who want us permanently divided.
Nothing like Ikwere Igbo either Igbo or not because i came from Ohaozara area of Ala Igbo then i will begin to say i am Ohaozara Igbo does this make sense? This guys should go read their history well
Ikwere igbo is correct, because you have ikwere as a dialect the way we have divers dialect of Igbo language
wellington iheanacho No, you are very wrong. The first commentator is right. Igbo means Igbo. There’s nothing affixed to it.
I guss there should be Ngwa igbo, Ohafia igbo, Ndokwa igbo, Nkannu igbo etc.
@@sonoftherisingsun6464 or Izza Igbo and Nsukka Igbo because of dialect
He meant he's igbo from ikwere ethnic group. This is a way to clearify igbo's outside the so called SE zone.
I'm deeply touched on this issue and I'm so sorry wholeheartedly for this brothers and sisters from Ikwere at large! 👏 Please my people, let's put aside whatever that has happened in the PAST and MOVE forward to achieve our common goals together.... In #ONENESS ☝we stand and DIVIDED we FALL!!! Peace ✌ Love❤ Strength 💪
The Ikwerres deny Igbo. I have an Ikeere friend that will tell me he is not Igbo even though he has an Igbo name
My brother God bless you. The Ohaneze have to be strategic to fashion better understanding. My dear Andy also my Ikwerre brother also have some blame too. Some of them will never like to accept their igboness. How I wish majority of my ikwerre Igbo brothers share this view. This is where Zik is exemplary in mobilising all igbos.
Nothing like larger Igbo group. We only have: ikwere, onisha, Agbor, Igweocha, okpanam, Awka, Anioma, Enugu, Nsukka, Abakaliki, Umuahia, Mbaise, Owere, Effiom, Amuda, Ngbo, Ezza, etc. Stop counting yourselves out, all are Igbos with divers ascents.
To me you are all ibos with differents dialects. All are ifeoma ngozi chukuma
IN IMO WE SAY "IHUNANYA" BUT ANAMBRA SAY "IFUNANYA"
WHAT OUR BROTHER IS SAYING ABOUT ABOUT R AND H, IS TRUE, WE ARE VERY DIVERSE.
How we say that ikwerre is part us, in igbo nation, there is nothing like majority or minority, igbo is igbo, regardless of the location. Ohaneze must do the right thing by bringing and unifying our brothers and sisters wherever they are because, we are one people. This task is very urgent and necessary pls.
Nwanne goodmorning. From my humble experience & interactions, Andy's submission is revisionist history. However the most important thing is to unite all igbo brothers/sisters irrespective of the artificially created boundaries in the country. For me, I have no atom of doubt that ohaneze and wider igbo public already see them as part of the igbo race. I only hope it is a genuine quest to get back to their roots without politics being the main reason.
I have being in port-hacourt before, n from my own experience ikwere people had brain washed by janjawee because of that, they never believed that they are ibo's, believe me ibo's are good n very kind, they love welcoming strangers around but I don't know the reason why other tribe have so much hatred on ibo's but for me, I love ibo's the more.
Bro the Hatered Emanated from Jealousy, Envy coupled with Ethnic inflatable Ego.
Nice word!! This is the way a new generation that is aspiring for grater future should reason, and not enmity that leads to poverty and death.
God will continue to bless you. I went to school with hausas in Lagos and we lived like brothers and sisters.
This is a Northerner talking and that's why I value most of them than West. God bless and prosper you brother.
@oceej0 No Bro. North love Igbos more than West.
I salute Njenje TV for the expository programmes you usually anchor for the benefit of Ndigbo. I greet my brother Andy Wabali too for taking his time to speak exhaustively on this touchy issue. Before I write further, let me make my stance clear on this. My stance is that all Igbo clans both in the South South, South East and Middlebelt should be united into One Igbo nation for our own good. I agree with some point made by Andy but will respond in the areas where I disagree. Saying the truth makes reconciliation easier. I disagree that it was only the larger Igbo group of the SE that contributed to the present logjam in our wheel as a nation. The Ikwerres equally played their own bad role too. Our people need some education on this issue so that our transformation can be quicker. Most Ikwerres don't know much about the larger Igbo nation which they're suppose to know. Ndigbo are made up of plenty clans. All these clans sacrificed to become the large Igbo group you know today. I'm from Anambra and my clan say 'Ohor' instead of 'ofor'. The Ikwerre clan say 'owhor'. Today, we all bear names with 'ofor' just so we can be monolithic. What we should demand from one another in the Igbo nation is respect. The Ikwerre clan has failed in this regard. The denial, distortion of historical facts and even abuse of their fellow brothers just so they can appear different has done a lot of damage. This has made the younger Igbo generation from the SE be suspicious of them. I'm part of those who have always advocated for the union of our people. I've even visited both Ikwerre and Etche lands to see things first hand for myself before coming into conclusion. I believe that the essence of this union should not be just for an individual's political career but for the good of all Igbo clans and the glory of Igbo nation. We are a very blessed people.
It's good how you called on Ohanaeze to lead the way in this union. I also agree with the idea of all the other apex groups of the various Igbo clans of Rivers to liaise with Ohanaeze in this regard. I'll want to also suggest that Ogbakor Ikwerre to organise a media conference after that meeting and declare publicly that Ikwerres are Igbos to put a stop to these back and forth. All Igbo clans should be respected.
May Chukwu Okike bless Ndigbo nile. Iseee!
Nwanne okwu gi amaka 👏
Nwanne, i nwere ezigbo uche, ya gaziere gi
@@emmanueleze8839
Isee nwanne mmadu
Andy, I do not doubt for a second that Ikwerres are Igbos. But, they should also own up to their own evil deeds against their Igbo brothers so that we can all forgive and move forward. Ikwerres were a big Igbo clan like Ngwas. If Ngwa people decided that they were no longer Igbos because they felt that would give them more opportunities with Fulanis, and call themselves a new tribe called "Ngwa". Then changed Aba to "Raba" change Ariaria market to "Rariaria" market, everyone would think they are crazy as their new stunt would NEVER convince a Fulani that they are not a clan of Igbo tribe, but a different tribe called "Ngwa". That is the ridiculousness of what Ikwerre did for 50 years and have realized that they fooled nobody but themselves.
When Cross River and Rivers state were carved out of the Eastern region in 1966 to drive a wedge between Igbos and the minorities of the Eastern region, Ikwerres immediately asserted that they were no longer Igbos but a new tribe called Ikwerre. In that period it was so sweet to deny being Igbo and simply "enjoy" war booty with Fulanis. Truth is that Fulanis are no fools.
Alas! Even the Ikwerres became victims of Nigeria and they suddenly remembered they were indeed Igbos. Perhaps, this is all part of Rotimi Amechi's strategy to use Igbos for his presidential ambition. All I can say is that Igbo want their Ikwerre brothers back into the fold. But for Andy to come here a feign ignorance of what happened and feign "surprise" that most Ikwerres don't believe they are Igbo and Ndigbo doesn't see Ikwerre and true Igbos is totally comical. Let's be real people. We need to address this issue and bring Ikwerres back into the family. Let us discuss what happened, cry as brothers and forgive. The strategy of Andy to feign ignorance of history is totally hilarious.
Point of correction Ikwerre never change their villages from Umu to Rumu that is a big fallacy, my mum is an ikwerre married to an Mbano man, I'm full blooded Igbo and I'm very conversant with this area, in some parts of ikwerre area the word children is Rumu has always been, just like every other Igbo town and villages are named after the first descendant or progenitor, I personally believe that ikwerre is a migrant tribe from all parts of Igboland and today if you go to Emohua LGA and parts of port Harcourt and Obio Okpor every village bears Rumu and you move to Apara Kingdom in Obio Akpor they bear Umu like any other places in Igboland and you go to Aluu the villages there bears Omu, all meaning children or descendant in their respective dialects so if they refused to centralise it, then so be it, secondly it was the government of the former Eastern region that started the changes from Rumu to Umu before the ikwerres change it back to its original names after the end of the civil war and creation of Rivers state, if you go to ikwerreland today, they call children rumuntakiri or rumuaka and in Mbano its umuntakiri or umuaka, my mother's surname is Iwuala but ikwerre don't use Ala in their dialect rather they use Ali or Eli for land depending on the area,
@@kennethdavid1107 I am totally for the unification of Ndigbo. All clans of Igboland including Ikwerre should be welcome in the Igbo family with full rights available to any Igbo.
Again, my point was that we should not act like there were no historical mistakes made. We can acknowledge that our grand fathers made mistakes which we the children of Ndigbo have collectively suffered the folly of their mistakes. Thus, we have decided to correct the mistakes of the past. Whether this is part of a ploy to get Rotimi Amaechi to take the igbo presidency 2023 slot or not, we as a people need to reconcile and move forward together.
There is an underling factor when you deny who you are. You fool ONLY YOURSELF and nobody else! Today i see many Black Americans vehemently professing that they are indeed "African" because of the racial issues that has triggered the black lives matter movement. While just a few years ago, so many notable African Americans vehemently denied being more "African" than other races by tracing all sorts of genetic lineage to substantiate claims of being more "native American Indians" than Africans! Some even seriously campaigned to be referred to as "Black American" and totally rejected the notion of being "African American" because they wanted that tag "African" reserved only for African immigrants to the US. Some of those debates are still here on youtube if you doubt me.
Thus, Ikwerre is Igbo just like other large Igbo clans of Ngwa, Etche, Ndokwa, Ukwuani, Igbanke etc. Even the clans within the southeast don't have the same Igbo accents. Therefore Ikwerre having a different Igbo accent of using Rumu for Umu is not something one should use to deny Ikwerre as being Igbo like other clans. As a matter of fact, i understand Ikwerre igbo accent more clearly than i under Izzi clan Igbo accents! Thus, Amaechi himself should know that when the chips are down, the people he thinks he is serving will still remember that he is indeed ~ IGBO! The is the funniest part of denying your identity.
There is no point to recounting this, let’s just make up and move on.
@@zweeterion Nwanne we are all saying the same thing, I'm half ikwerre myself and Mbano is my father's home but I just wanted to put the record straight here, in a different fora I heard Ohanaeze PG Mr Nwodo making similar mistake by saying ikwerre change from Umu to Rumu which is a lie, Rumu has been a ikwerre word for children for centuries but not all ikwerre Kingdoms use it, for example they say rumuntakiri instead of umuntakiri and in Apara kingdom they use Umu till date and Aluu uses Omu for their villages meaning the same children or descendants, so acknowledging the truth will go a long way, today we have egbema in Imo state and another half in rivers state, some parts of Njaba lga and Ngor Okpala are etche land and etche people in Rivers state are considered as Niger Deltans and the ones in IMO state are Igbos same goes to Ndoki in Abia state and their brothers in Rivers state many cases like this even in igbanke half of their brothers are in Delta state the Ika people were divided into Edo and delta but believe me igbanke are still more Igbos in character and culture than even their cousins in Delta, what about the Umuezekoha in Benue, Itu people in Akwa Ibom state and people of Abi LGA in Cross River state, this are our blood nobody is more Igbo than the other, we have to move forward and move quickly, even if Amaechis agenda will be the reason to unit Ndigbo so be it,
@@zweeterion Gbam
my dear brother thank you for this eye opener about the ikwerres truth be told that our ikwerre brothers are the ones sidelining themselves, pick up an ikwerre man and tell him you are an igbo man he will tell you GOD forbid he don;t mind take up an arms against you so my brother the ikwerres are the ones to integrate themselves and i like it what is happening now means that we are all realizing ourselves that we are one this housa and fulani people have done us more harm than good thank GOD for mazi NNAMD I KANU the GOD sent all hail BIAFRA ,all hail Mazi Nnamdi Kanu
Very sensitive discussion. My brother it is very simple to say but difficult to implement if Ndi-Igbo does not have the courage to do the right thing.
Ndi Ikwerre, Ndi Anioma and Ndi Igbo Benue, as well as Ndi Igbo Igbanke and other Igbos geographically located in Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and Cross Rivers states are no less Igbos than their brothers in present S.E.
To start with, Ogbako Ikwerre, Ogbako Etche, Ekpeye and Ogba should collapse into one big Igbo socio-cultural family group known as Ohaneze Ndi Igbo. We are all Igbos (anyi bu ofu) irrespective of our geographical locations and different dialects. Ohaneze Ndi-Igbo and the leadership of those associations have a lot of work to do in this regard.
Secondly, some of the communities in Anioma, Ali Ikwerre and even Etche and Ekpeye that deliberately distort their history to reflect Benin ancestry should revise their history and henceforth desist from this obnoxious behaviour. This is called self inflicted identity crisis.
Finally if Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi is contemplating running for presidency anytime in the future, What impact has he made in Igboland as a Minister? It is funny that tomorrow some people will accuse Ndi Igbo in S.E. for not voting for him when he has done virtually nothing in S.E as the current Minister for Transport. Andy Wabali please tell Amaechi that presidency is by merit. Now is the time for him to make his mark in Igboland.
Rotimi amaechi takes orders from the fulani and can only do less with his political position. Dont expect him to do anything for the igbos if Buhari didn't permit him
A house that is divided amongst itself cannot stand. "Count your teeth with your tongue "
The last name "Wabali" in Anambra will be said as Nwabani. This is unbelievable stupidity. How can you depend on a constantly changing dynamism of State Creation as the basis of your identity? Your identity should remain the same no matter the manner of state or local government creation. All Igbos are not the same. There are unique identities among Igbos; Igbos from Kogi state have a unique identity from Igbos in Benue State, from Nsukka in Enugu State, from Izzi in Ebonyi State. We should all recognize our unique identities. In Nsukka; eggs in pronounced as ekwa, in Onitsha it is pronounced as akwa. These should not be a point of contention.
"Wabali" and "Nwabali" who say Ikweres are not Igbo? I am Yoruba and a student of history also. Igbo and Ikweres are one. The amalgamation and the consequent civil war caused all the confusion in the land.
Some years ago the Neo- colonialists removed history from the school corriculum.
@@vincentdamilola3790 thank you bro
In Obowo Imo State is called Nwabali
There is nothing like minority igbo
The problem of all this denial is the civil war.
The Ikwerre's were the ones who denied the easterners because of the maltreatment of igbos after the civil war by the Nigerian Government.
My brother leave that talk.
You just said it right u were dealt with after the war.
U said the ijaws said it that igbos are coming back.
U imagine what u said justified that the ijaw were against ikwerre's after the war.
Opobo is an igboland.
We all need to come together and love ourselves
Nothing like larger igbo group my brother.
Thank you sir. However, it is a fact of history tha Ikweres share lot of affinity with their Igbo kinsmen.
All of us in Southern Nigeria have common enemies. They try to rubbish our histories.
We are all igbos, lets unite and stand as one and forget the past.
OUR BROTHERS FROM IKWERE WE ARE VERY SORRY IF SOME OF THE IGBO LARGER GROUPS TREAT YOU BAD. IGBO IS ONE, THERE IS NO IGBO THAT IS SUPERIOR THAN THE OTHER . I WILL ADVISE YOU TO REGISTER WITH THE CURRENT OHANEZE NDI IGBO . IGBOS ARE COMING BACK FROM DIFFERENT PLACES TO BECOME ONE. BEFORE 4 YEARS FROM NOW IGBOS FROM S.S AND S.E WILL BECOME ONE. BUT ROTIMI AMECHI SAID BEFORE THAT HE IS NOT IGBO .
My advice to Andy Wabali and the rest of our brothers is to stand their ground to claim their position in Ohaneze as no one is minority in his or her family home. Thanks.
This man is talking nonsense, was he a new born child.
They denied being IGBOS because of their greediness.
Did he never born during and after the war, ??
He never said the truth, but the truth will set you free.
You have many questions to answer.
Q. Who said that they are not IGBOS?????
Q. Changed the name of Umucuruchi to Rumucuruchi ???
Umungasi to Rumungasi etc ??
Q. Who seized their brothers properties and call them ABANDONED PROPERTIES???
Q. Who told you people that IGBOS will kill you and seize your oil land. ????
My brother and friend , if you people are trying to revise back , and you don’t know how to revise, you better said the truth, coz only truth will set you people FREE.
You have it all
Don't break the pot with hammer, tomorrow you may need same pot to get water from the river; this man is making point, the problem is not ikwere origin of from other igbo community indegines; the problem is from Britan and Fulani oligarchy. There's urgent need for integration with our family members across the river.
Bekee u said it all, the same thing I will said too..i think this man don't know exactly what he's saying
@@inyiamakingsley9105 you name is emeka your culture is igbo culture and you are waiting somebody tell you who you are
@@inyiamakingsley9105 the pot cannot challenge or defeat the Potter.
See theres nothing like delta igbo or ikwerre igbo...its either you are igbo or nothing..
God bless you
What does this man means by the larger Igbo group I believe that Is Igbo we are one but when you changed your villages and towns names umuokoro to umuokoro what does that mean brother we are one come to Abakeleke Nsukka you will find it difficulty to understand it nwanne Igbo is Igbo we don't know what you called Ikwere Igbo and we don't know what they called Ika Igbo what we know is that wherever you are you are Igbo stop putting another thing in it what we know is that we are all Igbos in culture attire foods language and so many other things thank you
Ikwerre people pls forgive us, we are very sorry, praise be to the power that kept our Ikwerre people safe after the war, I'm from Ngwo. But I'm Igbo too
Forgive who? What did Igbos do to them. People that will deny being Igbo when you hear them speak the language. They will quickly tell you they are not Igbos. The man is lieing. I have never seen an Ikwerre calling themselves Igbo.
What nonsense apology is this one spewing? Are you begging people who deny their heritage because they lost a war to forgive you for what offence? Did the igbos in the mainstream States not suffer more deprivation as a result of the war? Plus further deprivation and abandonment by their fair weather brothers closer to the river banks?
This nomenclature called southeast should be expunged from any narrative pertaining to the igbo. This is the issue.
Thank you very much for your mentioning it that you are igbo. I am from delta but I was denied to come to OP because I am igbo.
Why is it that you guys "Andy" don't like taking responsibility? Why do you always scapegoat Igbo? It is you guys the Ikwerre that VEHEMENTLY rejected your Igbohood in order to save yourselves from Nigeria persecution of Igbo? Now you want to blame Igbo. Ikwerre betrayed Igbo. Don't blame Igbo. Be man enough to blame your father's for this betrayal. You cannot forge unity without telling the truth.
He has a point..politics has even made us see each other as different people because of geographical zone.south east see south south people as not real igbo even south south igbo see us as the same
At the end of the war, Lt. Com. Diete Spiff, an Ijaw, was the Rivers state military governor then. It was the Ijaws that marginalized the Ikweres, not the Igbos. It was the Ijaws that largely benefited from the abandoned property of the Igbos. I'm from Isuochi and many of our female relatives were married to the Ikweres and the Ijaws in those days. That's why it baffles me that the Ijaws hate the Igbos so much.
You can tell your story without telling lies against the Ijaw or king Diete Spiff. Under King Spiff the Ikwerre got more than their fair share. Projects that could have been sighted elsewhere was sighted in Ikwerreland.
No my brother, its the other way round, your the one that denied being an igbo, but now that you have recognised where your from, we open our arms to welcome you in. all hail Biafra.
My brothers you are 100 percent right.
Some of them are still thinking igbo nation is still at war..
Mr Andy Wabali, I thank you very much for bringing up this issue of Igboness in River State. First of all, over 80% of the Ikwerres are born of Igbo parents. Even Dr Obi Wali lived and died as an Igbo man. The Ikwerre people, deep down, know that they are Igbos. After the civil war, Nigeria used the likes of Diette Spiff to disunite and disintegrate the Ikwerres from their Igbo brothers and sisters from the Southeast. I suggest that we, the Igbos, from every nook and corner should come together , because Nigeria wants to disunite us. Please we are one. I am from Imo State, but my Godfather is from Ikwerre.
I love this head line statement .that you are ikwere Igbo. Just like others .izii Igbo. Mbaise Igbo. Ndoni Igbo. And so many others in igbo land. But for ikwere people to say that they are not Igbos .to me it's very shameful and disgraceful to them. The BIAFRAN war is over
.let Igbos come back home and work with one voice. God bless all Igbo land
So this is all about Amechi coming out for Presidency. You peopke want igbo's support.
Sometimes you people are the cos of your problem, just listing to your self.
Let's see all that happened as the act of 1966-1970.
Everyone has waken up now, let's see how to reconnect and come back to round table and continue our Igbo activities, long live Igbo's my own people
Ohaneze have to form high power igbo integration group that will integrate every igbo were ever they reside.
My brother , how can igbo disown his own very self, I don't understand
My brother ikwere sir ,am happy to hear this from you but sir I have lkwere lady l saw her as my lgbo sis with all my heart but for the first time she denised be an lgbo lady that moment it hurts me so much so I think that will be some reason why some majority of lgbo will avoid not be there to support just like what u are cry and saying now but 2 those not make right l so much thanks y sir for coming out to address this issues
My dear Ikwerre-Igbo, kedu, as a Igbo man, I feel your hurt of not being treated fully as a Igbo man, especially as a Ikwerre-Igbo with Igbo blood in your veins (as you pointed out) like some other Ikwerre-Igbos. But more important than a blood-bond, the loyalty of the indigenous Ikwerres to the Igbos is greater than blood line. As they say: "blood is thicker than water", but loyalty is priceless, for it's a great virtue. So, no matter how hurtful you feel, hold on to that priceless virtue, its reward will outweigh the pains you feel today, no virtue is EVER unrewarded.
No body can deny your nationality. This unions has been compromised and has been terrified. Please uphold your identity. Time is coming when all children of God shall be united.
You're welcome abroad,it was said that blood is thicker than water you are a great brother and will remain so don't bother your self because of the suffering since I was born I also see suffering and so is ever y Igbo man
My friend you are telling lies. Ikwerre's never believed that they are igbos. If the tide has changed, let them come out to say they are igbos.
If they say they are igbos, why do they call igbos 'ndi-isoma". Ikwerres are like the the Ika-igbo, never believed they are igbos.
If they want to come back to be igbos, they are welcomed.
Andy Nwabali, please come out of this your Nwabali talk and come to the light. Ikwere is completely Igbo and has nothing like minority. Ohaneze did nothing to you because this your notion of rejection has been there before the formation of Ohanaeze. Don't you think that the abandoned property thing is causing you the pain and not your brothers. Don't you think that it was this your brothers that made you win the Governorship election. This same accusation also from Delta and yet it was these their brothers that supported them at the federal house. All my forty + years, I have never heard from any of my relatives say that Ikweres as not Igbo. Pleas brother, I know how many times I quarreled with guys from Delta about this. they are accusing me of making them Igbo they are truly are. I am highly elated when I see a guy from that area acknowledging the truth.
God bless you my person. Don't mind those baggers, they're still pleading not guilty. Until the hammer of the Potter will break to pieces the useless pot.
My brother wabali, i am from mbaise imo state and i know that igbo language have many dialects, no igbo man is from the minority, we are all igbos, i even understand your igbo more than ohafia igbo, if the past have offended you, the present is apologising for any error, you are not minority, you are igbos, the devil is a lier, your name wabali is an igbo name, we say nwabali in our own dialect, the name ikwere is igbo which means do you agree, like wise we have nkwere in imo state which means i agréé, please stop all these divissions, United we stand, if urines are gathered together it forms a large quantity of foams, if any igbo person tells you that you are not igbo, tell the person him or herself that he or she is the one who is not an Igbo, you have the right to do so, God created me as an Igboman, no one can take it away from me, i am from mbaise, my igbo is différent from any other igbos, other igbos also have something different from others including ikwere igbo and we all are one people.
Very good. I like this type of frank talk. When we were at the University of Portharcourt, we cooperated with our Ikwerre Brothers during Students Union elections to the annoyance of the far flung Ijaw majority.
It doesn't matter where the people may or may not have originated from as long as today we are igbo speaking we are all igbo!! United we stand divided we fall!
In my own opinion, we don't have Igbo minority. It was Fulani Nigerian government that was dividing us to have their way.
Ikwerre people are pure Igbo people dey denied their igboness after the Biafran war because of d defeat
am crying watching this we need to unit
We are all igbo..we need to come together nd move forward as one people(igwe bu ike)
All Igbos are one family. Let's leave the dialects apart. Whether Ikwere, Ibibio, etc. Time for us to start dialogue to unite all Igbos. Any doubt of our relationship can be verified by DNA test. For blood is thicker than water.
Ibibio is not Igbo
why you add ibibio lmao
Please you people are Igbos we accept you people are our brothers we are one, Please is just some little misunderstanding and those who is coursing it is those who are benefits from Fulani's but is all over.
It is really sad to hear that the Ikweres feel neglected by their Igbo brothers. I would like to add that the political dispensation in Nigeria has created a very unfriendly ground for harnessing brotherly relationship in the eastern Nigeria. It is true that anybody that was Igbo or related to Igbo was severely persecuted during and after the Biafra/Nigeria war.
In addition to the persecution of the igbos properties were confiscated in Port-Harcourt. Many tribes that were seen as Igbos by the aggressors were all persecuted. The point is that Igbos themselves were persecuted, so everyone has to run for safety. The situation then becomes the survival of the fittest. Those that seized Igbo properties, are their lives better-off than that of the Igbos today? It is a history that will never be forgotten. However, it is time to forge ahead and to build up relationships among the Igbo nation.
Nwabali you are on point but as an Igbo person that have lived in Rivers, Ikwere people are the ones denying their Igbo root, don't mislead the audience,, every other thing about our igboness will be resolved any day Ndi Ikwere accepts their root,
Who marginalised who? You don't think the Igbo were not themselves marginalised for decades?
I can tell you whole heartedly that Mr. Wabali is not speaking for the Ikwerre (Iwhereogha) people. Wabali is too young to understand the Ikwerre history. He speaks for himself.
Nobody denied your igboness but you did. Guilty conscience of what you did Igbos during the war and after the war. The abandoned property case is a simple case of your choice to deny your igboness. Go and talk to your ikwerre people to go and apologize to Prime Minister of Biafra in exile now before it is too late
You are only looking at speaking the Igbo language and dialects. But one thing missing is the people and the ORIGIN of those people. A good example is looking at Onitsha, the Obi know they are ORIGINALLY from BENIN. Hence he proudly holds the ADA and EBEN when doing the Ofala and other ceremonies! Just speaking of a language and dialect does not make everyone in those areas an Igbo man! Also, look at the conurbation of towns and villages, you have to look at the sources of those towns and villages and not at the present languages and dialects, OK? We all know that the Igbo space is too small, hence the Igbo has the tendency of spreading out to anywhere there is space, and when they get there would try making those areas Igbo-speaking environments!!!! Think, Ahmedu Bello was killed by Nzegwu and his henchmen because he said in one interview that they despise the Igbo coming to the Northern part of Nigeria because... "they are like cockroaches and would spread so quickly turning the North into Igbo-speaking environs and taking over the society whether businesses or offices"...! Please do some research about these for they are a true story.
Rotimi Amaechi said in a National TV programme that he is not an Igbo man and even showed his hatred for the Igbo nation. Is Rotimi Chibuikem Amaechi also an Igbo? Has his Igboness been verified? He has said a lot against ndi Igbo because he was power drunk. How is he going to clean this mess?
The problem is not we the igbos
But those our brothers from revers take asere dokubo as example
You are Igbo, whether Rumuibekwe or umuibekwe ; Ibekwe is igbo man; integration is necessary, there must be urgent need for integration. Ikwere man is igbo. We are brothers. Eze gbakagbaka is igbo man. There's need to change our different and misunderstand; all these where invented by Britain through fulani; I like your courage and good explanation. Every community in igbo Nation must come together. Please sir I need your private contact.
My brother you are lying and your lies here are not only epic but indeed heart wrenching insult to injury. The recent incidence in Obigbo is a clear case of Ikwerres not seeing themselves as Igbos. Go and watch the video where Wike himself said he has cordial relationship with ndigbo. How can you be an Igboman and still accommodate and have cordial relationship with yourself. I've interracted with many south south sublingual igbos from opobo, ikwerre , Agbor and Iselle uku who claim they are either from Benin or Macedonia, though I'm not bothered. But coming to cyberspace to allege the way you're alleging that it is Igbos who are disavowing Ikwerres is an invitation of Thunder to visit you. Most of the south south sublingual igbos apart from Asaba and some Ogwashi disavow their Igboness a situation which has made me to tell my igbo brothers to let people be what they want to be because a river that doesn't acknowledge it's source will always dry up. Please who are the victims and beneficiaries of abandoned properties? Probably the true integration of the Igbo nation will start from telling simple truths and not rewriting history please. I hope u don't want to open old wounds and remind us how Wike murdered our minority brothers in Obigbo.
This man is being DECEITFUL as they've always been, you're talking too much and too long but you're SAYING NOTHING
I suppose that is your own views sir
This is welcome conversation. I think the Ikwerres are free to identify as Ikwerre-Igbo if that will bring peace drive away the mutual suspicion that currently exists.
@Austin LeeIt doesn't matter what we think it means, the most important thing is that we live in unity with all our brethren.
It's now you guys are claiming Igbos abi? When your brother Elechi Amadi and his followers changed Igbo names what did you guys do? Have you guys forgotten the roles you played on abandoned property saga. Will you guys return our properties to their rightful owners? You guys should 1st of all call for total cleansing and forgiveness for denial of Igbo nation and return all the properties. You allowed the propaganda of Yoruba media to separate you from Igbo nation to eat you up. Igbos are one allover the world. My humble opinion.
The Ikwere people are Igbos and must be so acknowledged by all. It's imperative that our people from ikwere should understand that they're not less Igbo than any of us and I appeal to all Igbos to understand and respect the diversities of Igbo dialects and varied cultural values and traditions. I feel the pains Andy has enumerated in his presentation. The time to mend fences and close ranks is now.
They're the ones saying they're not Igbos
You betrayed your brother's doing the biafra because of whatever Nigeria people has promised a lot of your brothers properties you took it who rejected being igbo you rejected Identity now you want to be welcome so many times you reject your identity no one is denying you be who you want to at the end of the we will know who is losing
You are correct. But, the so called larger Ibo did not take a thing from Rivers people. It's the Nigerian government denied Ibo's everything till date.
I am from Ikwo but we understand ikwerre language clearly.The first time I traveled to ikwerre I was even asking some of the boys I met , which part of Ikwo they come from only to discover that they were not from Ikwo but ikwerre.
You can't. Which Ikwerre dialects do you understand? Even core Ikwerres do not understand some Ikwerre dialects
Well spoken. Others are feeding well to an extent they their root.only smart people safe their people.
It is very obvious that the larger Igbo group insults us and even goes as far as calling slaves. One looked at me one day with some much hate and I had to man up and speak to him.
Well said but u people should stop listening to these divide and rule Fulani and Yoruba bigots.
I just whatch Mr Chimenum Amadi interview an Ikwere man explained that they denny Igbo due to fears of being killed during the war when Nigeria army were killing them with Biafram army uniform and they believed it was their own fellow Biafrans that are killing them not knowing it was Nigerian army in Biafran uniform even forced them to denny and change their tribes and names. So we shouldn't blame them for denying their origins so is time for them to reconnect back to their root .God bless Igbos all over the 🌎 globe.❤
My brother, what you are saying now is the opposite of the truth situations with the whole nature of the events that transpired! My brother, It's the Ikwerre people's are the ones who had rejected the Igbos and that's the truth and not the other way around! I do not know your age but if your are too young, that you didn't know what your people did, then ask your elders, they'll tell you! Because inasmuch I knew the Ikwerre people's are the Igbos, and they're completely Igbos with all the Igbo rights! Because their traditions and culture in Ikwerre are never difference from the ones in Igboland! But having said this, it's only the Igbos and very few Ikwerre people's knew that they're Igbos. Why did the majority of the Ikwerre people rejected the Igbos, first, Benjamin Adekunle and his criminal gangsters in Nigeria Army warned them, that if they tried to assist the Biafra Army, that they themselves are the Igbos and that they will be treated just like the Igbos and the Ikwerre people were watching then, how the Ndigbo were being slaughtered in Port Harcourt by the armed Animalistics, Black scorpion Adekunle told the Ikwerre people that everybody in Nigeria knows that they the Ikwerre that they're the Igbos and because of the fears of the unknown, most people from Ikwerre lands turned against their Igbo brothers! Therefore, having said this, because of the efforts Nwachineke Ohamadike Nnamdi Kanu the IPOB leader worldwide is making to unite all the Igbos together including the Ikwerre and everyone else, for these reasons, I'll never want to go more further to open a cancaworm! It's okay now! Let move on! But my brother from Ikwere, if I may ask, why did your Ikwerre people changed all the landscapes names with Igbo origin language given to them by their families, and forefathers? Umumasi is today Rumumasi, Obigbo is Oyeigbo, Umuokwute is today Rumuokwuta, Umukrusi is today remukrusi and etc, who did that to the Igbos names, and what were you thinking when you do that? I believed you're ones who never believed you wanted any relationships with your other brothers which is us! Because I can't use the name we Igbos! Just because we're all Ndigbo, so if I am talking about the Igbos, I am also talking about every single Ikwerre person or persons! How on earth can an Ikwerre person or persons will ever said that the Igbos are isolating them? When Emmanuel Aguma was the Biafra Administrator for the Port Harcourt province during the genocidal war against Biafrans, was he not an Ikwerre person? Also did you know or heard about the Ndabros case in Port Harcourt? When Ndaa was murderers, the Nigeria government arounded up all the prominent figures in the Ikwerre the entire Ikwerre land, including our former Biafra Administrator Emmanuel Aguma and Ogima and sentenced them to death, they could have been
killed if not for the interventions of their Igbo brothers! Almost all the prominent sons of Ikwerre have been accused and sentenced to death, worse still, even the victim Ndabros was an Ikwerre man too. But Igbos union said that this is a fight between the Igbos and Nigeria, my father said that it was an extension of the Biafra war to kill all our Ikwerre brothers, and they appealed the case to Enugu and Justice Araka preceded on the case and set all of them freed. Barrister Nwobidike Nwonodi an Ikwerre man visited my father twice about this case, and the Igbos United themselves and go to work! It's you Ikwerre people that owes us an enormous apology! But let us throw those apologizes to the garbage-can and let everyone join hands with Mazi Ohamadike Nnamdi Kanu and Engineer Uche Mefor and the IPOB members worldwide and restored Biafra nation our own country! Otherwise these people will teach all of us including Yorubas a very serious lesson. In Biafra we'll all stand. All hail Biafra.
...so called Ohanaeze has no rights to determine who gets to be igbo or not. Your ethnic identity comes to u as a birth-right. Much love for all d ikwerre people - very nice & beautiful igbo people!!
90% of Ikwerre deny being Igbo, so they aren't Igbo. Simple 👌👌👌
Thank your my brother
Andy Wabali made it clear with reference that those who took non River Igbo property were not ikwerre, ogba, etche, etc Igbos and the fact the even River Igbos such as Ikwerre, etche, ogba, etc were marginalised after the war in Rivers and had no power and even denied plots in the GRA. So this is why Igbos from the SE should not hold anything against Rivers from rivers state because Nigeria marginalised all igbos from Anioma, Rivers, SE, etc. after the war.
From my research,it is the Igbo of River state that turned their back on the mainland igbos.
Who is Wabali in the scheme of things in Ikwerre land to come out with this confusion he spills.
Stop claiming igbo ok u guys is not igbo iwkere is not igbo we are only biafrans ok
You dont know what you are saying-Reason:you cannot be minority Igbo unless you have a sense of guilt.And you failed to address the issue of taking over abandoned properties of your own brothers
. It is just good that we are re-discovering ourselves and will achieve great things when we unite-Kudos.
It was few ijaws, ogonis that were used against Biafra, but to be honest after the civil war the Ikweres alienated larger Igbo brothers not the other way round, the Ikwere were short sighted and felt superior and used every opportunity to tell there brothers that they are not one they never thought of a day when the need to close ranks will come.
Ijaws or Ogonis were not used against Biafra, Biafra did not serve our interests neither does it serve our interests now. Igbo people should come to terms with that reality.
Do u know how many times ikwere people chided me and called me local for being Igbotic and told me to my face that they are not igbos and never will be. I grew up in portharcourt.
No, it is you who denied their Igbo heritage. They claimed to be Niger Delta. They speak Igbo and still say they are not Igbo. I'm not surprised that all of them starting to claim their Igboness today because Fulani has come for them. They know they can't fight Fulani without the larger Igbo race in the southeast. Enjoy your abandone properties ownership. Mad people everywhere!
This man made alot of sense, I shade tears listening to him.
The assertions from Andy Wabali is coming to me as a huge surprise. My knowledge about this ikwere-igbo is unfortunately the reverse. At every point the greater Ikwere would deny their "igboness" up to the point of aggressive and hot arguments. Whereas most igbo I know always see the ikwere and others as their brothers. So Wabali comments are an exception though commendable. Best wishes to long overdue integration.
I am an igbo man but the ikweres has done some dirty jobs,,You might be making a point but the ikweres changed Umuokoro to Rumokoro this hurts the Igbos in hinterland terribly,,but, it never too late,,You grand mother is from Isuochi,,I am also from Isuochi, The ikweres are undoubtedly Igbos,,the earlier the better,, I see the ikweres as Igbos..
Nonsense discusions by old.All is about oil,petrol.Let the white man discover another source of powering his economy and then everybody's eye will open.We've seen with main land China and Taiwan and Honkong.You're all on internet discussing Mbaise,Ka Igbo,Wa Wa,Afikpo,Abakiliki.If every Igbo tribe start writing names of street and towns with their dialects.Na wa.
yes you said it all they denied igbo because of crude oil
It's was very common amongst kwerre"s to say that they are not Igbo's.
After the war the Igbos out side of the then east central state suffered untold discrimination.