For a woman who decides peacefully that she's going to take her own life... there's no way to take her down, the only way is up, and being stronger... what an inspiration...
Everyone talking about how strong she was, but I want to compliment her ridiculous intelligence... leaving fingerprints in the bathroom, flexing her bite muscles so the blindfold would be loose, absorbing all details during the car ride and remembering them to this day... she's like a movie character, honestly
Mad respect for this woman, I have seen many rape cases on internet, but that one sentence "Thank you for choosing me and not another 17 years old little girl" is more heart touching than any dialogue or quote, I think her bravery and intelligence should be respected
You see, narcissists think they're smarter than anyone else, but they're not. They all have weaknesses and they're often very obvious (takes spending time with them to realize) and this girl did, she saw his weakness and used it against him. She's smart and she knows it, that, that's powerful.
It’s outrageous that they tell victims they’re supposed to act or feel a certain way. Abuse is abuse and I’m honestly disgusted that there is A stereotype on how you’re supposed to feel.
That police officer needed to be fired, so unprofessional. They need to train them better, just because you're composed means nothing, there is disassociation, theres shock, theres pushing your feelings down.
@@ParadiseAndGin Exactly, it's just like all those tragic 911 calls where the operator hangs up because the poor victim can't exactly talk ALL the details with the killer right next to them.
@@ParadiseAndGin lol the police hires exclusively low IQ people because higher IQ people don-t just follow orders blindly but suuuure training will fix everything
The fact that the first IDIOT detective refused to believe her makes me FURIOUS. What a disgusting excuse for a detective, I hope he was fired instantly.
I mean, they already got a massive manhunt going for a while - which would mean that all kinds of people would show up from the woodworks and just make shit up, wasting everyone's time. You have no idea how often it happens during investigations - people just lying about stuff. Some of them are just dumb and think they can get on TV this way, or that they'd get some kind of reward for some shit they made up, while some want to get rid of people they don't like by framing them. Hell, people with severe issues would sometimes even lie about themselves being the killer. So, all kinds of people that are dumb, evil, mentally ill, or any combination of the above. If you take that into account, it kinda makes sense that the detective hesitated: she had an unusually calm demeanor for someone who just went through something so horrific (admittedly, that's because she's a very unusual person, in a good way), - yet her story sounded too cohesive to be a lie. So the detective made the right thing: didn't dismiss her, but instead called a more experienced detective to get a second opinion.
This poor girl only survived because she had already been victimized so many times and psychologically damaged to such an extent that she knew how to play his game and that in itself is disgusting
In a small way its almost like that old story, except a lot more sad because its real: There once was a man who lived on a farm with his son and his horse. One day, the barn door was left open and the horse ran away. When the nearby villagers heard about it, they ran to the farm to tell the farmer how sorry they felt for him. “How will you work your farm without your horse?” they asked. The farmer simply shrugged and said “good, bad, who’s to say?” A few days later, the farmer’s horse returned, and following it were two more horses. The villagers were so excited for the farmer’s luck, they ran to his farm and told him so. The farmer simply shrugged and said “good, bad, who’s to say?” The new horses were not broken in, so the farmer’s son worked hard to break them in so they could be used on the farm. While doing so, one of the new horses threw him off and his leg was broken. The villagers again ran to the farm and expressed their deep sadness about the son’s broken leg. “Now your son can’t help you on the farm,” they said with their heads hung low. The farmer simply shrugged and said “good, bad, who’s to say?” As the son was healing from his broken leg, a war broke out in the countryside. All the young men were sent to fight. Many died or were seriously injured. However, since the farmer’s son had a broken leg, he was not able to go. The villagers again came to the farm, to say to the farmer how very lucky he was that his son didn’t have to go fight in the war. Once again, the farmer shrugged his shoulders and stated, “good, bad, who’s to say?”
“My grandma’s boyfriend put a gun to my head while he molested me for three years. It was nothing new to me” wow. Those words in their own are haunting.
I bawled. Almost seems like she was made to catch him and become an officer and an advocate. I can't imagine her life or the trauma, but I'm so damn inspired by her. Amazing person.
I loved how she said the first thing she saw after being released was a big oak tree and it felt to her like a new branch of life. Then years later when she was speaking in front of all those people, she was wearing earrings with a big tree on them. Definitely not a coincidence, but a little detail, a reminder of how strong she was, and is, and how far she’s come.
This story never ceases to amaze me. The fact that this monster kidnapped her the night she planned her own death, and the fact that she had already been through a hell of abuse. She was prepared for it. She was insanely intelligent. Insanely brave. And it shocks me that somehow, the horror she lived through inspired her to try to live.
The fact that she wasn’t believed because she didn’t look like other victims.. she was “composed” and not distressed infuriates me. I was molested at 4 and eventually my mom took me to the police when she found out what was happening. I wasn’t believed at 4 years old because I wasn’t distressed. I was in shock and didn’t understand what was happening. The police thought my mom told me to lie. I’m angry to this day.
Same here, the cops thought my mum fed it to me at 3 because I wouldn't talk to them without my mum present - Actually, I just never liked my dad because he didn't like me, he had the nerve to jokingly bring up that my mum is crazy and fed me that lie, didn't even apologise when I said I could remember every detail of the room it happened in..
Sorry to hear that, time heals all wounds and I truly believe it speaking as someone from a similar situation with SA. I hope you're life is a lot happier now :)
@@feitan7130 Sorry to hear that, time heals all wounds and I truly believe it speaking as someone from a similar situation with SA. I hope you're life is a lot fuller and happier now :)
The fact she would have ended her life due to trauma but used trauma as a means to survive… she is incredible I’d love to read a book or see a movie if she made one. What an incredible woman.
There is a movie or series called “believe me” it is about her story but it’s put into a script, I cried but it’s so so good but very graphic at times and tells the whole story how she wishes to tell it.
the movie, it sad because it’s a true story but it’s so amazing. the way she was able to put her feelings aside and do everything she did is amazing. she’s definitely an inspiration
It makes me so furious when a victim of rape or other sexual abuse comes forward and the police doesn’t believe her because she’s not distressed enough, wants attention or didn’t told sooner her story, like, what !?!? She’s a brilliant mind, she didn’t let the panic and fear take over her and even if she was dead her fingerprints where everywhere, her blood on the car etc. She was the most intelligent young girl I’ve ever heard of.
or she tests positive for drugs during a rape kit and did not willingly take said drugs, now she has a record of positive drug tests. when you get assaulted by politicians with cop friends, THIS happens
my rape was so absurdly similar to erotic torture films (all the BDSM stuff, repeatedly, severely sodomised to the point that 40% of the bedsheet was covered in blood and i was passing fresh blood for days after) that instead of being believed by a literal sexual crimes officer (who was male), he actually laughed and called in 50 shades of grey. maybe it was because i wasn’t distressed and crying recounting it since it had happened a few days before I made the report. he even tried to falsify my statement and closed the case with it despite telling me he would refer it to the criminal investigations division. i only found out all the absolute lies he wrote about me “consenting to everything, at every point” / “consented several times” throughout my repeated rape, when i found out he had closed the case without informing me, and yelled at him while crying over the phone that i was raped. even the hospital i was supposed to go to for medical help for SA (no GP was willing to see me for rape injuries, and it was mandatory for me to report the rape to the police in order to get medical help from the dedicated hospitals), they didn’t let me register for an hour (even when i was crying and saying I was raped and just needed help for my injuries because no other doctors were willing to see me), because the officer didn’t give me a slip to pass to them (I wasn’t informed about it and had no idea), clearly because he didn’t believe me. i don’t know what the officer told them after i cried at him over the phone + told him the hospital wouldn’t let me register. the hospital treated me like I wasn’t a recent victim of rape, but just someone who - in the officer’s own words - had “consensual sex with roughness”. the injuries i raised to the hospital doctors weren’t even properly treated, they didn’t care, they just wanted to stick things inside me even when i didn’t want them to (it wasn’t even a rape kit, i only found out after that it was STD tests - which was incomplete because they didn’t even swab the anal area that experienced the unprotected sex, even when i had repeated my story twice in tears), and was made to pay $700 for my visit where it would’ve been FOC if anyone between the police and the medical staff had, for once, finally believed that i was a rape victim.
I fully agree but with so many false confession by ladies ruin it for the ones who truly were kidnapped and raped…and then you just have stupid officers who don’t want to do there jobs.
Her leaving her fingerprints everywhere is brilliant. Using you thumbprints to write out "help" or your name or something about the perpetrator might be very helpful as later evidence!
No that’s dumb. The reason she did corners and knobs and flushers was so that he wouldn’t think to wipe it off. Also he’d kill her if she wrote “help” in thumb prints then he saw that. So he’d kill her in a fit of rage then wipe the evidence away
Her not being "distressed enough" reminds me of when the nurses said I couldn't possibly be in labour because I was too calm and not screaming my head off. It's so frustrating. Baby came out 8 minutes later I'll add
I'm always like that whenever I gave birth to my 4 kids. I can maintain composure under stress. Even when I had seriously high blood pressure and was rushed to the hospital by my friends. They didn't believe it was that serious because I was still smiling.
I was molested as a child and I first told my therapist about it at 23 and she didn’t think it was a big deal because according to her I had said it in a tone like it didn’t matter .. idk how people don’t get that trauma is shown and processed differently with everyone
I'm a therapist and I can understand trauma because I have experienced it, not just cause I've read abt it. As any therapist, there are always a few topics that we're qualified in or good at and some that we can't handle. PLEASE go to a specialist for trauma OR if you have already established a good connection with that therapist, tell them they should do a course and not discredit your experience. A good therapist will take your "challenge" as a growth sign. You DESERVE better treatment, and do not settle for LESS (not just by your therapist ;)
You've reminded me of an incident some years ago - I was in my early 40s my child was about 4 or 5 - I was waiting to start at a permanent job and was temporarily working in a social services unit that dealt with "children who had fallen through the net". There were many sad and disturbing cases - I was typing a case of a 3yr old girl who had been beaten, tortured, starved by her mother and her mother's partner - tears were rolling down my face - the clinical psychologist in the unit asked if I was ok - I told her yes but that the incident was very sad - she sat down next to me very sympathetic - result she firmly believed I was crying because I'd been abused as a child!! NO - my parents were normal - I was not abused - I was crying because I could not believe such cruelty could be inflicted on an innocent - I. could imagine the pain / fear / desperation of that little girl. I did not manage to convince the psychologist that I was not regressing.
The fact that a victim can come forward with their shit together tell cops exactly what they need to know and identify the victim while keeping calm and collected then have police not believe her must be one of the worst kick in the guts you can receive. Those officers should be charged with whatever the murderer got, how many people died, this case aside, from their complete negligence?
What pisses me off is knowing that if she DID come in distressed, they would brush her off as crazy and hallucinatory. Sexual predators don’t need to be given a badge and allowed to abuse survivors and encourage every survivor to stay quiet. People that deny it need to be held legally accountable as an accomplice, not fucking promoted.
I had to escape my abuser and ended up being abused in a shelter and almost trafficked out of some because KCPD is a trafficking front and they just label their victims as schizophrenic so they have ‘permission’ to abuse us and take away our human rights and justify our torture, essentially. These people are nasty and I have so much respect for people going into the job to ACTUALLY do a good job in these cases, not be evil and help the predator.
Its so angering. I was sobbing to the police officer and he told me I needed to calm down. He still didn’t believe me either. They never believe you :(
I could literally get stabbed with a kidney and shot and my reaction would be “oh..I should maybe go to the hospital?” In a very monotone voice. Some people just react that way. Feeling so many things that you freeze but keep moving.
Unfortunately this happens more often than we think. I survived attempted homicide by a stranger. The police and courts caused me more harm than my attacker ever could.
A lot of people are talking about her great memory, I think it is so sad how much she recalls. You can tell she relives that night constantly. It haunts her thoughts and dreams, that trauma you never forgot.
I have perfect recall of all the times I was molested from 3 to 14. I'm much better emotionally and mentally than my cousins who blocked out their entire childhood abuse from grandpa. I've become an advocate for others while they are stuck in cycles of self destruction
Odd how you state that like it's a matter of fact. She was definitely stronger now and didn't let herself be eaten by the abuse. She outsmarted the piece of shit anyways.
Lisa McVey is nothing short of incredible. The life she has before she was kidnapped was horrific, as was her time with Long. Lisa could have easily given up but she didn't. What an amazing woman.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt Where did you hear that, everything she said was true from what I can find. And why would you want to try and put a negative on the victim anyway, what's wrong with you going on all the threads saying this??
I was branded as liar(Munchausen syndrome)by several therapists because i look so normal ,not breaking down not crying, just a bit quiet and tense.. i told em i was sexually abused ,but they were suspicious ,i couldn't bring myself to tell them that i was molested from the age of 5 till 14 by around 20 different person while growing up..it's humiliating.. so i was getting angry and it slipped out, but they were like now a new details all of the sudden.. but one psychologist told em to send me to this one female therapist/counselor who specialized in ptsd and all trauma related disorders.. i talked to her just a bit, she said "you've gotten used to it to the point you can just mask off all your symptoms as another way to protect yourself but i can see it in your body language, there's a lot of signals and you're trying to suppress them, it's okay now, you've come so far".. albeit just a little i broke down into tears.. i still try to keep my cool because it's embarrassing..but finally someone who believes me .. it's true not all of us gonna act in certain manner
@@LeNoir2411 I am proud of you even thought I don't know you. To be so strong and be able to tell your story, that is courage. I really wish the best for you and thank you for who you are.
I hate how people assume. like sorry they’re not having a panic attack?? some people cope differently, they might be in shock.. if that man didn’t have a daughter I don’t even wanna know what would have happened to other women around that time.
She was my hero when I was a kid. She was a few years older than me, when she appeared later on Oprah, I think, I remember thinking, "I am not broken and wasted. I can help someone else". Got into healthcare and changed my whole life.
the fact that she went through all that, and what carried her on wasn't hate or revenge, it was her love for family and concern for future possible victims. This person , im gnna cry.
Not only is she incredibly smart and brave, the irony that her previous trauma allowed her to already have a coping mechanism. And her strength and demeanor, are what made the cops initially think she lying. And her incredible recollection saved so many girls. You gave people of a trauma a voice and even people without trauma to aspire!
they say those that have a past of sexual abuse/molestation/violence are at a higher risk statistically of it happening again. Predators can almost smell it on their victims instinctually. She turned that around and became the apex pillar of her community. Never again would she be that scared little girl.
A very disturbing case of everything happens for a reason. How many lives were saved by her, and what she had to go through to be able to survive all of it.
I feel similar. My dad died in front of me… it has ruined any sense of normality I’ve ever had. But I’m “chill” and “relaxed” most of the time so people think I’m okay. I’m not okay. I’ll never be okay.
What I love about this channel is that you're not left feeling sad for the survivors. They really focus on the fact that the survivors survived and are thriving now and that is the most uplifting way to share these tragic stories. This gives people hope and inspires people and I'm very happy to find a channel that presents these disturbing stories with such positivity.
I hate how victims are supposed to "act" a certain way. The poor girl had been molested as a child and no one person is the same. She is a survivor and acted as such and I for one commend her
@@jennifertoolis296 There's a lot of ways for victims to act, but to shit in the bed of someone you're supposedly scared to death of? To tell them you hit them? To tell them no one will ever believe them? That certainly isn't it. If there was any evidence he was physically abusive, especially while high, they absolutely would've found it in the trial. But if you can't even do something as simple as finding evidence that a drug abusing celebrity is violent, then it doesn't exist.
No one should ever be judged by how they handle themselves after a horrific incident like that. Anybody that does is an absolute fool and I'm sorry that should have the same thing happen to them see how they act.
It kind if annoyed me how the cops at the press conference made it sound like it was all down to good police work. That little girl literally dragged their lazy asses and pointed out the guy and had to fight them to believe her story and do something about arresting the serial killer. He had killed so many young girls and the cops had done nothing.
A few years back they made a movie based on Lisa's story. I have never been so angry at the cops as I was at the way the cops treated her in that movie. To now find out that the portrayal of the cops is basically true, makes me even angrier. Florida cops should be ashamed.
clearly he wasn't even being careful about it, other than killing the other girls. his bright red car was as conspicuous as it gets, there probably would have been witnesses who noticed it in relation to the other kidnappings.
Okay. I'm sure that technically there now are somewhat widespread training programs for cops to correct things like assuming that people are lying if they don't fit certain stereotypes in how they express emotions. but sadly what mostly still hasn't changed about cops is that police training snd policy and police department practice are very different things. it's not like cops lying to cover for one another and making false accusations against people to spin cases of unprovoked police brutality into police using appropriate force to subdue attackers is official policy either, but it's universally practiced. nor are cops SUPPOSED to turn their body cams off when they intend to break rules, but they all have the technical ability and the right to turn the cameras off whenever they want, the police departments and unions make sure of that.
@@kellymccain3403 highly recommend the movie to anyone who hasn’t watched it yet. it’s one of the few kidnapping movies that i can watch comfortably, simply because she is so smart and the film didn’t portray her as a victim, but a survivor that stood up for herself and isn’t helpless. the world needs more cops like her.
@@user-nu3sd7zb2j you must not know anything about the psychological work that goes into police work and how great it is to have woman police officers. Most rape victims develop fears of men and even woman, so they request certain genders they feel comfortable with.
DISGUSTING THEY DID NOT BELIEVE HER BECAUSE SHE WASN’T “DISTRESSED” ENOUGH! I’m so fucking sick of these creeps getting low sentences and getting away with it because of stereotypes put on victims. She was abused before so obviously her brain had a defense mechanism to it, even if she wasn’t just because they’re calm doesn’t mean they’re weren’t abused. Yet everyone wonders what’s wrong with our world 🤦🏽♀️
Lol but believe all women like Amber Heard, she was smart and knew she just had to point them in the right direction hence why it worked out in the end
Most of us will cry by ourselves because we feel disgusting because this happened. There’s a difference between choosing and being forced. Being forced is indescribable.
Its harder to communicate properly with people who don't convey emotion while trying to explain something. You can communicate better when someone is angry, sad, happy or stressed - not when they're blank and are casually explaining something in thorough detail. Truth is often told by emotions and when you're being interrogated or interviewed by police they're trying to match your story with your emotion and if you have no sign of anxienty, fear, sadness, anger etc etc - Then its a much harder job for them to actually get a full logical conclusion of the situation and to actually believe what someone is saying and if its truthful or not. You can tell when someone is lying based off their emotional status, you can tell when someone is obviously pretending to be pissed or angry and then catch them in the lie. Try believing someone who isn't conveying basic human emotions.
I saw her testimony of her story on "I survived" and the fact that she was beaten for five hours by her grandmother's boyfriend after her whole ordeal. That's when her grandmother had enough and finally called the cops on him. The poor woman went through so much. Not just this horrific act but so much abuse before. She is such a strong, powerful, and inspiring woman.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt may you find peace for whatever it is that has led you to feeling the urge to reply with THAT. I genuinely hope you get the help you need one day❤️
👮🏻♂️👮🏼♂️👮🏽♂️: “i don’t believe this SA victim, she’s too hysterical, emotional, and crazy” also 👮🏻♂️👮🏼♂️👮🏽♂️: “i don’t believe this SA victim, she’s too calm, composed, and rational”
I've watched so many documentaries & doc-dramas on this case.... I was horrified at how she was completely dismissed by police.... Her own family called her a liar! She taught police & FBI so much on how to better help victims! She put away one of the all-time worst serial killers of his time! I have such a deep level of respect for her! A true survivor 🙏
Did her siblings believe her? I would absolutely be devastated if something like that ever happened to me and my sisters called me a liar. Perhaps because of the stereotype of adults not believing children, it seems somehow worse to me to have your siblings not believe you than parents or legal guardians (although obviously that would be absolutely gut wrenching and horrible also)
@@emmak2971 I believe that it was her grandma and the grandma's boyfriend the ones that called her liar because they didn't want her to say anything about the grandma's boyfriend raping her during three years. I didn't know she had brothers but apparently her mom was on drugs and living in another place with them while Lisa was taking care of the grandma and her boyfriend. Btw, once Lisa arrived to her grandma's house the boyfriend started to hit and smack her because "she was cheating on him with someone else" that shows you how messed up everything was. And how brave she is.
I've been there mums brother police said they believe something happened but not enough evidence due to the years that passed family said kids plays games which later in life regret my uncle was a big teen I was in pre school now I only have my mum who labeled me a lair at the time she encouraged me to go police about it too 😔
The detectives clearly didn’t understand that a lot of trauma survivors are able to go through incredibly traumatic experiences and be OK, and calm afterward. We’re used to horrors.
@@SomeOne-ji8ny no one was talking about amber heard and she legit shitted on their bed and her story changed up every time AND her evidence didn’t match up either don’t do that she was never abused and never had bruises wtf 🤦🏽♀️
@@bethrivera867 it’s true, I wish someone had told me that and told me that rape is not usually presented as this weird creep who’s a cereal killer, but as the people who you trust or people who think that it’s ok as long as you don’t put up a fight when most girls are scared to do so
The fact that she went from "I'm happy because I'm gonna kms" to "I'm gonna live to make sure no one else has to go through what I went", got me crying so hard I just can't believe how strong this woman is Wich is both amazing and way too sad
Hearing that you were contemplating suicide just before you were abducted is heart breaking but shows just how STRONG (and wrong) you were. Thank you for fighting back. True stories like this give hope to many. God bless you.
John 15:5 ESV I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. God is good 🙏❤️✝️
Hats off to Lisa for her bravery. Can't even imagine someone surviving and fighting after experiencing such a terrific and traumatizing incident. Truly she deserves all the respect!
why is she not the subject of a film ??? what an amazing woman. An inspiration not just for women, but any human who faces horrors and thinks of themselves as a victim. Such positivity and purpose for the good of others .I salute you ma'am👏👏👏
@@angelacaudill537 I really hope some day I find the compassion I need I know its maybe selfish sounding but those years left a serious mark on me I hope no one ever has to experience those things it kills me knowing stuff like that still happens
@@jesseseguine9784 It frickin angers me too... I'm so sorry you've had to walk through this..I too walked through 4 sexual abuses at age 8 and don't understand the WHYS...,bir do I understand why, when I finally spoke up in my 50's, to my parents, there were no words from their mouths.... EVERYTHING was shoved under the carpet... God Bless you!! He DOES LOVE YOU!!! 🙏🌹😎
Probably the smartest thing you can do as a victim is show a predator or violent person respect, as contradictory as that sounds. Such men/women typically come from a history of trauma and shame themselves, feeling unloved & numbed to society. Not to fully justify their actions as completely outside their control, but as this case shows, recognizing them as people and not "monsters" can be a powerful means to change them.
@@glowingunknown5625 You change them by locking them up. As a Criminologist, I can assure you it’s well known, particularly with extreme violent offenders that prior behaviour is a strong indicator of future behaviour. Of course, many claim to find God in prison but that is part of the manipulative behaviour. Please name me a specific serial killer who has “changed”. I’ll wait with baited breath.
Did anyone else notice the tree earrings she’s wearing in her speech? After she said the first thing she saw when she took the blindfold off was a big oak tree
A man broke into my house, he tried to take me out of my home in the middle of the night. He didnt succeed. When the police came I told them everything. I told myself calm down and remember the details. The detective looked at my mom and said, " you've got quite the actress here." They never caught him. I was 16.
@God- how many people lie about this? That's the same mentalty why these men get away or do little jail time, especially when it comes to children. Maybe you're referring to some unstable domestic issue female you know who wants to get back at you. It's the Police's job to investigate - not just being incompetent to ass-u-me. If it was their female relative, a casket would be prepared. Hmm!
Damn that 1 tear when she said about the pain of rape tells a long story. For her to show 1 tear after all she's been through shows the horrid pain she has been through. She is an amazing woman
I recently saw an indept interview with her and she left out a lot of good parts how she slept in the police station for 3 nights afterwards cause she was afraid he might come back for her. She's definitely a hero..God Bless Lisa! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Suicide is a sin, she'll burn in hell for her thaughts. and as for you John... Sex before marriage IS NOT WHAT SCRIPTURE ALLOWS for this your will BURN IN HELL TOO!
Those officers who didn't believe her because she didn't fit the "typical description" of a victim are sick bastards!! Lisa showed so much strength and determination, she is a hero and I wish there were more officers of substance and grit like her.
It happens all the time, it's also the same reason liars get believed. As victims usually don't show the Hollywood type of distress people expect, they get laughed at and dismissed. While liars show a good performance of "victimhood" and ruin lives. I remember the day I got s****ly assaulted. I left the scene and went to school cried secretly in the bathrooms and went on with my day looking normal. I was dying on the inside but from the outside just cold and showing no obvious signs of distress.
Something similar happened to me. I didn't fit the "typical victim " mentality, so they didn't really believe me. Evidence, however, proved it. The judge gave him "6 months, time served" in a county jail. He went on to abduct and rape more women and girls, some as young as 13 or 14. Those victims are the direct result of a lenient Judge. 🤬
She's a coward, and what she is right now, is all thanks to the serial killer. Had she not been kidnapped, she would be a pile of bones rn. Also she's very ungrateful. He saved her life, decided not to kill her, and she got him into jail...
The strength in this woman's voice and eyes is incredible! The strength she built up in herself, strength she didnt even know she had, through living that horrible abuse her whole childhood saved her from a serial killer! She was actually able to turn her horrible experiences into saving countless lives!
Her childhood trauma did not save her. She saved herself by her own intelligence and will to survive. Don't discount her abilities and falsely credit her trauma for surviving that.
@@abylerog She was able to keep a level head because of her horrifying past. It was her intelligence and force of will that kept her alive. Don't discount any piece of this just to fit your view. It's literally said in the video that her living through her trauma is what led her to make the choices she did. "It was nothing new to me".
Lisa McVey’s home life is no better. “Upon arriving at home, she was beaten and interrogated for five hours about her whereabouts. Her account remained consistent, and finally, a phone call was made to the police.” In a way, it took an outside force like those horror movies to make her fight for her life.
The show 'believe me' is about her and it is so captivatingly well made. But it's also shows the absolute horror this woman livid through, yet her intelligence and strength shine through. And also the the importance of the police believing victims.
It is horrible that she was not initially believed because she was "too calm" by other people's standards. I have been through so much severe trauma and horror in my life, that I just go completely numb, don't cry and become very very calm if I get put through more trauma. I can never ever cry for myself, I am simply not able to. I feel the trauma inside, and I feel numb, I do not react to the trauma, I become extremely calm. The strange thing is, I can cry for other people, I have a lot of empathy and love for others. I just can't cry for myself. I don't know the reason behind this, it must be a survival mechanism I learned in childhood, I suppose.
Should be a form of dissociation, the brain trying to protect itself from being overwhelmed possibly retraumatized by dissociating all the extreme emotions felt around trauma. There’s a book called body keeps the score that has lots insights on traumas’ impact on body mind and brain.
I understand. I was never abused to the degree this woman was, but I still suffered enough mental and emotional trauma at school I learned to just go blank and stop feeling. It won't last. It may be minutes to years later, but the repressed emotions will come out, just not when most people would experience them or how most experience them. It could be I curl up into a ball and just cry inconsolibly or I just fly into a rage and want to watch the world burn. Years of therapy has helped, the rage thing happens a hell of a lot less, but the ability to just shut down your emotions? That never really goes away.
It's a defense mechanism, unlike the heart and body, the brain can't process all the emotions held in because of a Trauma, and that's okay otherwise one can go nuts, emotions needs to be resolved once you are in a safer environment outside and within, you should have something reliable to fall back on instead of being retraumatised
"Smooth seas don't make strong sailors." Genius level IQ in the most horrific situation. Incredible she was about to end her life anyway, and now she is a real life hero and an amazing role model.
I appreciate where you are coming from but it literally sounds like you're saying a person needs to be molested, kidnapped, and raped to be a strong person.
it's hard to comprehend just how many incredibly brilliant.r remarkably intelligent. quick-thinking people have lost/taken their lives without ever being able to reach their full potential. if she had gone thru with had plan, who knows how many more victims would've been taken from this earth before their time. everyone in her life had not only failed her, but were actively abusing her from all sides. thankfully we know of her remarkable survival instincts because she rose above the pain and demanded better for herself. it's a shame to think of how many children with futures of amazing accomplishments because they weren't "lucky" enough to make it out alive.
The detective is sick... what the heck?! She had too much composure?! What else was she supposed to do or act like?! Some people are simply different and have other ways to deal with trauma! That doesn't mean they aren't victims. Her story is inspiring and I can't imagine the fear, terror and pain...such a strong lady.
Because homicide deal with the sickest fucks imaginable on a daily basis so when they encounter a victim describing horrific things but being so composed about it, it usually doesn't ring true....think about it....your dealing with lies constantly and when something doesn't fit the way it always does u are suss about it....that and countless supposed victims have lied
@@eljanrimsa5843 Have you watched the Amber Heard trial? Most of her lies fail to hold up because she doesn't look affected by what she claims happened to her. That's generally a clear sign of lying about being a victim. It's unfortunate but the victim of this case had to lie to herself to act as the killer's partner and so her behaviour might have looked extremely inconsistent with her claims. The detective isn't sick, this is and extraordinary circumstance and his response is justified, if wrong.
@@ADDrecords Yes, and there are plenty of crazy men in the world who also make up lies, cry wolf and ruin other peoples lives. That doesn't mean that every single person should be considered a liar just because they don't break down crying while recounting the situation they're a victim of. People are different and express emotions differently.
@@snake698 The officer's behaviour was not justified in the slightest. Someone giving a testimony to a horrific crime they experienced should never be dismissed because of their facial expressions or body language. Different people express their emotions in different ways. Keeping a calm composure is not proof that someone is lying and the facial expressions or body language someone is displaying does not make someone's claims "inconsistent." If you truly believe that it's justified for a cop to not believe a woman because she didn't break down crying then you lack basic common sense. Just because a woman does not break down sobbing does not mean that's she's lying, and she shouldn't have to break down crying for a cop to believe her. Different people express emotions differently. It's not yours or an officers job to assume someone is lying because of how they portrayed their emotions. It should be based on evidence. The cop should have just taken the information she told him and then they can find the evidence to see if it's true or not. There are too many cops that have caused people's lives to be lost just by not believing someone and by not acting on what they were told. Yes, facial expressions and body language can be suggestive towards how someone feels but it's never proof, because there are always some people that can behave in certain ways for very different reasons. Besides, why are you bringing up Amber Heard here? She's a different person from the victim in this case. The way Amber reacted has nothing to do with the way this lady reacted. They're obviously different people who express their emotions differently. Plus, you're clearly ignorant about the Amber Heard trial. Amber did prove that Johnny abused her in many instances with evidence. She lost the case not because of "lies" but because she couldn't prove that she didn't write the article about him to affect his career, which is what the court hearing was about, not the abuse. She was also in a room filled with cameras broadcasting her to the world. There are plenty of people who's body language would be "inconsistent" in such a situation when they're put on the spot. It was also proven that Johnny lied many times on the stand while keeping a completely calm composure but I don't see you bringing that up here? Regardless, that's irrelevant, and has nothing to do with this case. It shows a lot about your mentality if you're the type of person to assume someone is lying because of their facial expressions and body language and not based on evidence, so it's no wonder you're trying to defend that cop. You're the same type of narrow-minded and ignorant individual. There's nothing wrong with being aware that someone COULD be lying, but only believing that they're lying without considering they could be telling the truth is foolish. Especially as a cop when people's lives are depending on you.
Its so surreal to think if she had not had years of abuse she would not have been strong enough to do what she did. Every trial we endure grows us spiritually and emotionally and if we choose life and to give back ...wow! You get a career hero like her. So sorry for all the loved ones of those beautiful girls.
I will be teaching my children the dangers of the world and how to protect themselves in every way, hopefully they will be able to do the same if (God forbid) they were ever in danger - without ever experiencing abuse 🙏 cross my heart, touch wood
What a totally sick thing to say. No, being raped does not help us grow. This woman would have committed suicide that night if she hadn't been kidnapped and further abused.
I think your point is important and I understand the sentiment behind it. I think we need to encourage people that they are strong and brave in spite of their circumstances, not because of them. Violence and trauma shouldn’t be redeemed by the strength of survivors.
I think she was already strong and was strong enough to do what she did in spite of years of abuse. She suffered through so much and in spite of those 2 abusers, she was a survivor and a hero who wouldn't be broken.
@@mickyd5009 what if you have limited resources, and have other equally concerning issues to investigate. How will you decide how best to use your limited resources? People really don't think about this, they think the police have unlimited man power and resources.
I am in awe of this woman’s bravery. Not just during the horrific events she experienced, but her inner bravery in taking all of that pain and turning it into a force for good. Not everyone has the strength to do that. God bless her.
I was kidnapped, drugged, and raped by a guy when I was 14. He dumped me near where he grabbed me from. Because of my previous abuse, and trauma, I remembered details needed to catch this man. The police did nothing. His 5ish year old son was in the vehicle/house the entire time. It hurts my feelings even more, that the police most certainly afforded him the freedom to continue his rein of terror. He has since died, about 2 years ago. I am now 41 years old, scares me to think how many others he did that to or worse. Madison County Indiana. Thank you Lisa!
i am so sorry this happened to you. i hope somehow you found happiness and peace in your life. i cant imagine what youve been through having to go on with the memories… if it means anything to you, may God bless and guide you, let you heal and be at peace.
Wow! You are amazing to say the least. Thank you for your decision to become an advocate for victims. I’m so sorry for the molestation you suffered as a child. Children are a gift and should be treated as such. ❤ Bless your heart.
It's kinda like a miracle that the night she decided to end her life she was kidnapped by a serial killer which made her realize that living was worth fighting for.
@@SA-yw5uw Of course it's awful to be kidnapped by a serial killer but to be suicidal and then survive is nothing short of miracle. Plus she became the instrument in which the killer was captured.
Lisa McVey, Kara Robinson and Alison Botha are some of the bravest and smartest women who outsmarted their would-be killers. Their strength and dedication to catching these criminals saved countless other lives. Real heroes, all of them
There's a girl called Mary Vincent, she had both arms cut off at the shoulder and was thrown off a cliff and left for dead. She willed herself to get up, dug her stumps into the dirt to stop the bleeding, dragged herself up the cliff and made it to the road. She was totally naked, beaten and had no arms, she held her arms up above her head to stop her bleeding out. She was rescued by the second car that passed her, the first one just drove past her. She was 15 years old. She deserves to be on this list. So does everyone who didn't survive though, they were no less brave.
I recently listened to a podcast on Alison Botha. As a South African, I never imagined such a thing happened here nor a person as brave and intelligent as Alison existed in this country. I've been watching true crime for years and unfortunately I've developed a sort of "numbness" to many stories, but Alison Botha's story had me in tears and feeling heavy yet inspired for days after.
This had me crying. what a strong and inspiring woman. she took the absolute worst thing in the universe and turned it into a reason to live. Kudos-ill bet shes good in law enforcement too!
@@ScaLe126 Idk what’s so funny what she went through is one of the worst things in the universe to go through and then having to live and die with it. Nothing about this is funny or something to even argue about.
Ironically her kidnapping and brutal torture may have ultimately saved not just her but many other innocent women. Even more ironically her past abuse had turned her into the ultimate survivor--who else would think to leave fingerprints, flex their jaw to cause slack in a blindfold, etc. It was in her misfortune that she found her strength, an amazing story about an amazing woman.
There was a case with a lady and a serial killer that she lost her arm in the process of running from him but still managed to escape. It was just as interesting if not more than this one.
NO, JESUS is the stronger person! DONT YOU EVER FORGET THAT OR I'LL BURN YOU IN HELL FOR AN ETERNITY IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW BIBLE SCRIPTURE AND OBEY THE LORD!!!!!!! and remember, i love you
My mom is a prosecutor, and she used to tell me....usually r*pe victims forget everything (because their mind has a coping mechanism, which plays against her when trying to recognise the perpetrator) or they remember everything in every single detail...I'm glad Lisa was able to remember and catch that man
Or in 3rd case they remember it till some time and laters memory wiping happens... I think me trying to forget everything the whole time activated the coping mechanism laters.. I don't know whether it happens frequently in rape cases or not but in PTSD that happens.. If the traums is ongoing and is result of sth that happened for longer period then once the victim is set free memory wipe happens
Interesting. I remember every single detail. It took the police THREE YEARS to come up with a line up but I was able to positively identify him within seconds of looking at all the photos. His face, his tattoos, are burned into my memory for life. He had this tattoo of the bay bridge on his right calf I’ll never forget
Mine makes me remember everything, raped when 4 yrs old. Sometimes laying on bed, remembering it makes me wanna think other thoughts as they were painful, sometimes I numb myself when the memories flashed in.
@@ryuugaeisen8946 I’m so sorry to hear that happened to you, and at such a young age. I have a 5 year old daughter and the thought of someone doing something like that to a sweet, innocent baby like that infuriates and disgusts me to no end. I’m sorry you didn’t have someone to keep you safe ☹️ I hope you’ve been able to work through your trauma and are in a good place now 💜 Sending love and light to you.
@@jennifergraceh Thank you❤I'm quite okay now. Growing up realizing what happened to was hard at first and made me shameful especially when I turned 13-15. But thanks to other fellow rape victims voicing their experiences which helped me empower myself and stop my self-hate. I'm not alone and neither are the others. We're the victims and that in itself isn't shameful.
I'm sorry she had to go through all of that. She did not have the right parental guidance but I'm glad she survived. She is a inspiration to a lot of women.
There was a similar more recent story in Washington state. A woman reported her rape. Wasn’t believed and was actually charged with falsifying a police report. Some time later they found her drivers license and stolen camera at another victim’s home in Colorado.
when she thanked him for choosing her....... OMG what strength she has from this tragedy.. I wish everyone going through sexual abuse or any trauma could gain some of this strength she has... (myself included)
The utter inner strength this lady has for turning the tables despite wanting to die already. I have the deepest respect for her, may she continue to thrive in her life.
The detachment is the reason she was so composed. A magnificent coping mechanism, if it weren’t for that then maybe he’d not have been caught because it enabled her to think, and remember everything important and have the calm enough mind to leave evidence. Brave lady
I worked as a temporary in human resources for Hillsborough County and this story amazed me. Lisa McVay turned her misery into a positive mode and has done wonders to help others. It's a shame that people profile victims when they are coming in to tell their story because everyone reacts differently to trauma. Sometimes people get desensitized or they assume things they should not . This was one of those cases that people assumed she had not been traumatized because she was desensitized from her abusers in the past. I understand this totally because I too am a sexual abuse victim and when you go through things you have to separate yourself from them or you will lose your mind. These things we go through only strengthen you once you get past them if you can find the courage and strength to do so.
This is very true. When I was forced to go through therapy for my personality disorders it took me a long time to be comfortable being honest and opening up. When I was finally comfortable enough with my therapist to discuss my childhood trauma, I was accused of lying because I "didnt seem traumatized". She didn't understand that I am too disconnected from my emotions (especially from the traumatic memories) to express anything.
@@johndoe4110 yes and when I had something happen to me I totally blocked it out and forgot it which was unbelievable to me because it was traumatic and I put it out of mind completely and did not even acknowledge it until later in life. This surprised me because I was not consciously aware that I had done that. It's your way of protecting yourself.
@@rhondaunger1228 This happened to me too, I forgot about what had happened to me until one day when I was 18 some of the memories came flooding back, though they were still hazy and muddled. It's crazy how the brain can block things out to protect you. The memories are still blurred and there are gaps but I do have some recollection now.
@@johndoe4110 The worst thing to me was trust is broken and it keeps you from ever wanting to be vulnerable. I'm a survivor not a victim but I am distanced from relationships. I don't like anyone closing in on my personal space. It effects your comfort zone and how you trust people on general.
@@rhondaunger1228 This is what has and is still currently happening to me. I'm missing many, many, years. The most frustrating part to me was my behavior. For years I behaved as a trauma survivor but had no trauma to recall or work through. I had "quirks" that I now understand to be those very typical of long term abuse survivors. I become extremely calm when bad or scary things happen. I become very objective, logical, and cold. I cannot imagine trying to report things and be scared and emotional enough to convince anyone. I find it kind of gross how people say that someone isn't behaving "correctly" when something horrific happens to them. I'm not close to very many people either. I actually have no desire to be in a relationship or to be very close to anyone. I'm not bitter or angry anymore I just have no desire to get close to people.
This woman has a very extraordinary presence of mind. Where others would panic and just shut down, she is able to maintain composure and remain aware of everything around her.
I remember watching a movie named "Believe me" it was based on this story I believe. It's just incredible how Lisa was so smart at the age of 17, leaving fingerprints in the bathroom, remembering everything in the car and also where they went. She is just amazing!
I love that she showed up to his execution wearing a custom shirt that said “Long Overdue” but sadly the coward had his eyes shut the entire time and didn’t see it before he was executed.
Absolutely astounding. She is a true legend!! She decided not to live as a victim after a childhood of abuse and then horrific assault. She has an indomitable spirit. 🙏
Let’s also not think of people who can’t emotionally get over their trauma as “less than” just because they couldn’t emotionally survive. You have no idea how difficult it is.
If I had a magic wand, I'd wish for the entire adult world to have learned her lessons. Those who don't off themselves of become raving pshchopaths will be _enlightened_ with the nature of willpower and morality.
It feels like a gross understatement to say this video, short as it is, inspired me. It brought me an invigorating sense of perspective and encouragement. Thank you so much, Lisa McVey. You are incredible.
“Take all the negativity in my life and turn it into something positive.” I love that. Using our pain and trauma to help others…that’s what it’s about.
"I was happy." As someone who had decided once that she was going to take her own life, I can attest to that. A visceral sense of calm and peace washes over you. Unlike any I have ever felt before. I lived in that for a day or two. I miss that feeling a lot. Ultimately, I'm glad I never followed through. Im glad to be alive to experience the goodness of life. Whatever little good there may be, it isn't all bad. It's worth seeing.
@7Y8 I mean, you coulda kept this to yourself. Pretended you never saw my post. Got on with your life. But you clearly felt the need to get your words out there, too, so... I don't think I will, mate. 🤷
Can I be honest, seeing woman like her, inspires me to be stronger and have a passion to live, not for anyone else, but for myself and my loved ones. This story is scary, traumatizing, and heartbreaking to listen to, but at the same time, it truly gave me strength. I am so incredibly proud of you.
For a woman who decides peacefully that she's going to take her own life... there's no way to take her down, the only way is up, and being stronger... what an inspiration...
Yep 😭
Yes indeed.
She took back her power. Very impressive.
i hope she succeeds in the future and go to the other side
Isn’t this believe me
Everyone talking about how strong she was, but I want to compliment her ridiculous intelligence... leaving fingerprints in the bathroom, flexing her bite muscles so the blindfold would be loose, absorbing all details during the car ride and remembering them to this day... she's like a movie character, honestly
Well they made a movie based on her story
@@adzik9847 Really? Whats the movie name?
@@adzik9847 i wanna know the name of that movie, too 😮
It’s just survival instinct
@@chihuashua thank you ☺️
Mad respect for this woman, I have seen many rape cases on internet, but that one sentence "Thank you for choosing me and not another 17 years old little girl" is more heart touching than any dialogue or quote, I think her bravery and intelligence should be respected
Exactly that sentence. What an inspiration.
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You see, narcissists think they're smarter than anyone else, but they're not. They all have weaknesses and they're often very obvious (takes spending time with them to realize) and this girl did, she saw his weakness and used it against him. She's smart and she knows it, that, that's powerful.
Always remember that villan can be a person without using their brain in the end of the day
It’s outrageous that they tell victims they’re supposed to act or feel a certain way. Abuse is abuse and I’m honestly disgusted that there is A stereotype on how you’re supposed to feel.
Exactly! Can you imagine how much more worse it would be if someone had a mental incapacity, or had just entirely shut down from the trauma?
That police officer needed to be fired, so unprofessional. They need to train them better, just because you're composed means nothing, there is disassociation, theres shock, theres pushing your feelings down.
@@ParadiseAndGin Exactly, it's just like all those tragic 911 calls where the operator hangs up because the poor victim can't exactly talk ALL the details with the killer right next to them.
@@ParadiseAndGin lol the police hires exclusively low IQ people because higher IQ people don-t just follow orders blindly but suuuure training will fix everything
AMBER HEARD.
The fact that the first IDIOT detective refused to believe her makes me FURIOUS. What a disgusting excuse for a detective, I hope he was fired instantly.
I kno what a dumbf I wish I can dismemberthe limbs off that detective while he’s still alive
does anyone know if he was ???
I mean, they already got a massive manhunt going for a while - which would mean that all kinds of people would show up from the woodworks and just make shit up, wasting everyone's time.
You have no idea how often it happens during investigations - people just lying about stuff. Some of them are just dumb and think they can get on TV this way, or that they'd get some kind of reward for some shit they made up, while some want to get rid of people they don't like by framing them. Hell, people with severe issues would sometimes even lie about themselves being the killer. So, all kinds of people that are dumb, evil, mentally ill, or any combination of the above.
If you take that into account, it kinda makes sense that the detective hesitated: she had an unusually calm demeanor for someone who just went through something so horrific (admittedly, that's because she's a very unusual person, in a good way), - yet her story sounded too cohesive to be a lie.
So the detective made the right thing: didn't dismiss her, but instead called a more experienced detective to get a second opinion.
Their is a movie about her. I think its called "believe me" but u can find her movie through her name.
IKR!!!
This poor girl only survived because she had already been victimized so many times and psychologically damaged to such an extent that she knew how to play his game and that in itself is disgusting
But in this case it saved her life. She is really amazing !
Get over yourself. Your about 3 seconds from lying and saying you went through that.
Yes ….
There's a lot of us like that. And it's both a blessing and a curse - like a double edged blade that's both your saving grace and very undoing.
In a small way its almost like that old story, except a lot more sad because its real:
There once was a man who lived on a farm with his son and his horse.
One day, the barn door was left open and the horse ran away. When the nearby villagers heard about it, they ran to the farm to tell the farmer how sorry they felt for him.
“How will you work your farm without your horse?” they asked.
The farmer simply shrugged and said “good, bad, who’s to say?”
A few days later, the farmer’s horse returned, and following it were two more horses. The villagers were so excited for the farmer’s luck, they ran to his farm and told him so.
The farmer simply shrugged and said “good, bad, who’s to say?”
The new horses were not broken in, so the farmer’s son worked hard to break them in so they could be used on the farm. While doing so, one of the new horses threw him off and his leg was broken.
The villagers again ran to the farm and expressed their deep sadness about the son’s broken leg. “Now your son can’t help you on the farm,” they said with their heads hung low.
The farmer simply shrugged and said “good, bad, who’s to say?”
As the son was healing from his broken leg, a war broke out in the countryside. All the young men were sent to fight. Many died or were seriously injured. However, since the farmer’s son had a broken leg, he was not able to go. The villagers again came to the farm, to say to the farmer how very lucky he was that his son didn’t have to go fight in the war.
Once again, the farmer shrugged his shoulders and stated, “good, bad, who’s to say?”
“My grandma’s boyfriend put a gun to my head while he molested me for three years. It was nothing new to me” wow. Those words in their own are haunting.
I bawled. Almost seems like she was made to catch him and become an officer and an advocate. I can't imagine her life or the trauma, but I'm so damn inspired by her. Amazing person.
the movie is amazing
Nobody should have to go through that. The poor girl was suicidal because of her abuse, that is truly disgusting.
What she endured 😣
I wonder if the grandmother’s boyfriend was ever held accountable.
I loved how she said the first thing she saw after being released was a big oak tree and it felt to her like a new branch of life. Then years later when she was speaking in front of all those people, she was wearing earrings with a big tree on them. Definitely not a coincidence, but a little detail, a reminder of how strong she was, and is, and how far she’s come.
Those earrings depict the tree of life. Seems fitting.
What an astute observation! 👌🏼❤️
Ty for sharing that detail! I just thought cute earrings and you made the connection of a purposeful, meaningful symbol for her.
I have been practicing tree communication for a few years now so this seems really poignant to me
The Tree of Life, it was her second chance the way that Jesus Christ is everyone's second chance.
This story never ceases to amaze me. The fact that this monster kidnapped her the night she planned her own death, and the fact that she had already been through a hell of abuse. She was prepared for it. She was insanely intelligent. Insanely brave. And it shocks me that somehow, the horror she lived through inspired her to try to live.
Just like he claimed that he was getting even with women in general, she was getting even with abusers in general.
@@Lawna-ig4xzexactly. She refused the notion of him having any opportunity to “victimize” anyone again.
The fact that she wasn’t believed because she didn’t look like other victims.. she was “composed” and not distressed infuriates me. I was molested at 4 and eventually my mom took me to the police when she found out what was happening. I wasn’t believed at 4 years old because I wasn’t distressed. I was in shock and didn’t understand what was happening. The police thought my mom told me to lie. I’m angry to this day.
Same here, the cops thought my mum fed it to me at 3 because I wouldn't talk to them without my mum present - Actually, I just never liked my dad because he didn't like me, he had the nerve to jokingly bring up that my mum is crazy and fed me that lie, didn't even apologise when I said I could remember every detail of the room it happened in..
Sorry to hear that, time heals all wounds and I truly believe it speaking as someone from a similar situation with SA. I hope you're life is a lot happier now :)
@@feitan7130 Sorry to hear that, time heals all wounds and I truly believe it speaking as someone from a similar situation with SA. I hope you're life is a lot fuller and happier now :)
@@suppertimesims Thank you, and you're right. I'm in a much better place now! Time heals all :)
I hope you are healing well and my prayers are with you
The fact she would have ended her life due to trauma but used trauma as a means to survive… she is incredible I’d love to read a book or see a movie if she made one. What an incredible woman.
There is a movie or series called “believe me” it is about her story but it’s put into a script, I cried but it’s so so good but very graphic at times and tells the whole story how she wishes to tell it.
@@laurenewen8286 thanks so much 🙏🏻
the movie, it sad because it’s a true story but it’s so amazing. the way she was able to put her feelings aside and do everything she did is amazing. she’s definitely an inspiration
there is a movie about it
Believe me
It makes me so furious when a victim of rape or other sexual abuse comes forward and the police doesn’t believe her because she’s not distressed enough, wants attention or didn’t told sooner her story, like, what !?!? She’s a brilliant mind, she didn’t let the panic and fear take over her and even if she was dead her fingerprints where everywhere, her blood on the car etc. She was the most intelligent young girl I’ve ever heard of.
or she tests positive for drugs during a rape kit and did not willingly take said drugs, now she has a record of positive drug tests. when you get assaulted by politicians with cop friends, THIS happens
But then if you are upset they don't believe you because you're "hysterical" so must be crazy.
@@joan-lisa-smith the perpetrators are causing all of this. it is grsnt funded by design ti divide and alienate families.
my rape was so absurdly similar to erotic torture films (all the BDSM stuff, repeatedly, severely sodomised to the point that 40% of the bedsheet was covered in blood and i was passing fresh blood for days after) that instead of being believed by a literal sexual crimes officer (who was male), he actually laughed and called in 50 shades of grey. maybe it was because i wasn’t distressed and crying recounting it since it had happened a few days before I made the report.
he even tried to falsify my statement and closed the case with it despite telling me he would refer it to the criminal investigations division. i only found out all the absolute lies he wrote about me “consenting to everything, at every point” / “consented several times” throughout my repeated rape, when i found out he had closed the case without informing me, and yelled at him while crying over the phone that i was raped.
even the hospital i was supposed to go to for medical help for SA (no GP was willing to see me for rape injuries, and it was mandatory for me to report the rape to the police in order to get medical help from the dedicated hospitals), they didn’t let me register for an hour (even when i was crying and saying I was raped and just needed help for my injuries because no other doctors were willing to see me), because the officer didn’t give me a slip to pass to them (I wasn’t informed about it and had no idea), clearly because he didn’t believe me. i don’t know what the officer told them after i cried at him over the phone + told him the hospital wouldn’t let me register. the hospital treated me like I wasn’t a recent victim of rape, but just someone who - in the officer’s own words - had “consensual sex with roughness”. the injuries i raised to the hospital doctors weren’t even properly treated, they didn’t care, they just wanted to stick things inside me even when i didn’t want them to (it wasn’t even a rape kit, i only found out after that it was STD tests - which was incomplete because they didn’t even swab the anal area that experienced the unprotected sex, even when i had repeated my story twice in tears), and was made to pay $700 for my visit where it would’ve been FOC if anyone between the police and the medical staff had, for once, finally believed that i was a rape victim.
I fully agree but with so many false confession by ladies ruin it for the ones who truly were kidnapped and raped…and then you just have stupid officers who don’t want to do there jobs.
Her leaving her fingerprints everywhere is brilliant. Using you thumbprints to write out "help" or your name or something about the perpetrator might be very helpful as later evidence!
No that’s dumb. The reason she did corners and knobs and flushers was so that he wouldn’t think to wipe it off. Also he’d kill her if she wrote “help” in thumb prints then he saw that. So he’d kill her in a fit of rage then wipe the evidence away
@@Ali-Alsalman You wouldn't want the police to solve your case and catch your murderer?
@@Ali-Alsalman What?
@@Ali-Alsalman stupid comment
@@Overqualification I think he's trying to say that regardless of how brilliant the move was to leave that clue for the police, you'd still be dead.
Her not being "distressed enough" reminds me of when the nurses said I couldn't possibly be in labour because I was too calm and not screaming my head off. It's so frustrating. Baby came out 8 minutes later I'll add
Wow what a story!
Omg 😱 same!!!
I'm always like that whenever I gave birth to my 4 kids. I can maintain composure under stress. Even when I had seriously high blood pressure and was rushed to the hospital by my friends. They didn't believe it was that serious because I was still smiling.
Same thing happened to my mum.
I was called a quiet achiever when I had mine. Lol. Because I didn’t make noise.
I was molested as a child and I first told my therapist about it at 23 and she didn’t think it was a big deal because according to her I had said it in a tone like it didn’t matter .. idk how people don’t get that trauma is shown and processed differently with everyone
no way she’s a therapist…seriously disappointing…
Are a lots of insensible ignorants out there, don’t feel bad for that, you are super special, god bless you
I'm a therapist and I can understand trauma because I have experienced it, not just cause I've read abt it. As any therapist, there are always a few topics that we're qualified in or good at and some that we can't handle. PLEASE go to a specialist for trauma OR if you have already established a good connection with that therapist, tell them they should do a course and not discredit your experience. A good therapist will take your "challenge" as a growth sign. You DESERVE better treatment, and do not settle for LESS (not just by your therapist ;)
You've reminded me of an incident some years ago - I was in my early 40s my child was about 4 or 5 - I was waiting to start at a permanent job and was temporarily working in a social services unit that dealt with "children who had fallen through the net". There were many sad and disturbing cases - I was typing a case of a 3yr old girl who had been beaten, tortured, starved by her mother and her mother's partner - tears were rolling down my face - the clinical psychologist in the unit asked if I was ok - I told her yes but that the incident was very sad - she sat down next to me very sympathetic - result she firmly believed I was crying because I'd been abused as a child!! NO - my parents were normal - I was not abused - I was crying because I could not believe such cruelty could be inflicted on an innocent - I. could imagine the pain / fear / desperation of that little girl. I did not manage to convince the psychologist that I was not regressing.
Definitely get a new therapist. That one should be reported.
The fact that a victim can come forward with their shit together tell cops exactly what they need to know and identify the victim while keeping calm and collected then have police not believe her must be one of the worst kick in the guts you can receive. Those officers should be charged with whatever the murderer got, how many people died, this case aside, from their complete negligence?
What pisses me off is knowing that if she DID come in distressed, they would brush her off as crazy and hallucinatory. Sexual predators don’t need to be given a badge and allowed to abuse survivors and encourage every survivor to stay quiet. People that deny it need to be held legally accountable as an accomplice, not fucking promoted.
I had to escape my abuser and ended up being abused in a shelter and almost trafficked out of some because KCPD is a trafficking front and they just label their victims as schizophrenic so they have ‘permission’ to abuse us and take away our human rights and justify our torture, essentially. These people are nasty and I have so much respect for people going into the job to ACTUALLY do a good job in these cases, not be evil and help the predator.
@@auroraazraelletotally believe you.
@@thagoodzgirl3840 thank you fr. It’s an evil reality and I wish people were as willing to see it as you, you are v much appreciated.
Cry.
So inspirational that she became a police officer to stop crimes like the ones that happen to her. What an amazing woman!
So very true.
She's also a school resource officer so she works directly with kids who are struggling or need support. She's truly amazing!
@@unseentruecrime ❤️
That's Bad AZZ!
She is the absolute definition of strength and inspiration!!!
It’s crazy how what she went through was going to end her life yet it was the very thing that saved her life. What a testimony
Almost like divine intervention ❤️
@@RaccoonNation that’s exactly what I was thinking
I was thinking the same thing
@@RaccoonNation What the actual fuck. ew.
@@RaccoonNation God doesn't like women either, read your bible.
it’s infuriating that she wasn’t believed because she wasn’t “distressed enough”
Yes, some ppl. get real quiet and calm when in great danger. Cops should know this.
Its so angering. I was sobbing to the police officer and he told me I needed to calm down. He still didn’t believe me either. They never believe you :(
When we r calm we r not believed if we aren’t then we are “ hysterical” 😡
I could literally get stabbed with a kidney and shot and my reaction would be “oh..I should maybe go to the hospital?” In a very monotone voice. Some people just react that way. Feeling so many things that you freeze but keep moving.
Unfortunately this happens more often than we think. I survived attempted homicide by a stranger. The police and courts caused me more harm than my attacker ever could.
A lot of people are talking about her great memory, I think it is so sad how much she recalls. You can tell she relives that night constantly. It haunts her thoughts and dreams, that trauma you never forgot.
I have perfect recall of all the times I was molested from 3 to 14. I'm much better emotionally and mentally than my cousins who blocked out their entire childhood abuse from grandpa. I've become an advocate for others while they are stuck in cycles of self destruction
@@tjkasgl i'm sorry you and your cousins had that experience.
Odd how you state that like it's a matter of fact. She was definitely stronger now and didn't let herself be eaten by the abuse. She outsmarted the piece of shit anyways.
Actually, it's better to "relive" the trauma to make peace with those feelings, instead of pushing them away.
do you know her personally or something? are you there at her therapy sessions??
Lisa McVey is nothing short of incredible. The life she has before she was kidnapped was horrific, as was her time with Long. Lisa could have easily given up but she didn't. What an amazing woman.
Word up this woman is a true survivor and can help others with this powerful story
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt why are you trying to diminish this woman? What are you gaining? You're sick.
She is a super hero. Amber heard watch and learn. She should play the next super hero. Not spoiled woman who play the victim.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt yes she is a hero
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt Where did you hear that, everything she said was true from what I can find. And why would you want to try and put a negative on the victim anyway, what's wrong with you going on all the threads saying this??
She is an inspiration. Not all victims need to tell their story in a certain manner, and she is proof of a very smart and strong woman.
Are not All women are strong? Delusional Feminist
I was branded as liar(Munchausen syndrome)by several therapists because i look so normal ,not breaking down not crying, just a bit quiet and tense.. i told em i was sexually abused ,but they were suspicious ,i couldn't bring myself to tell them that i was molested from the age of 5 till 14 by around 20 different person while growing up..it's humiliating.. so i was getting angry and it slipped out, but they were like now a new details all of the sudden.. but one psychologist told em to send me to this one female therapist/counselor who specialized in ptsd and all trauma related disorders.. i talked to her just a bit, she said "you've gotten used to it to the point you can just mask off all your symptoms as another way to protect yourself but i can see it in your body language, there's a lot of signals and you're trying to suppress them, it's okay now, you've come so far".. albeit just a little i broke down into tears.. i still try to keep my cool because it's embarrassing..but finally someone who believes me .. it's true not all of us gonna act in certain manner
@@LeNoir2411 I am proud of you even thought I don't know you. To be so strong and be able to tell your story, that is courage. I really wish the best for you and thank you for who you are.
I hate how people assume. like sorry they’re not having a panic attack?? some people cope differently, they might be in shock.. if that man didn’t have a daughter I don’t even wanna know what would have happened to other women around that time.
@@LeNoir2411 Hope you're doing fine! Stay strong 🤙
She was my hero when I was a kid. She was a few years older than me, when she appeared later on Oprah, I think, I remember thinking, "I am not broken and wasted. I can help someone else". Got into healthcare and changed my whole life.
💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
May I ask you what you became in healthcare, if you don't might?
Thanks for sharing. Head up keep swinging. If we don't quit it gets better.
💗💗💗
She will be my inspiration too.
the fact that she went through all that, and what carried her on wasn't hate or revenge, it was her love for family and concern for future possible victims. This person , im gnna cry.
Love really can conquer hate when the stars are all lined up.
Not only is she incredibly smart and brave, the irony that her previous trauma allowed her to already have a coping mechanism. And her strength and demeanor, are what made the cops initially think she lying. And her incredible recollection saved so many girls. You gave people of a trauma a voice and even people without trauma to aspire!
they say those that have a past of sexual abuse/molestation/violence are at a higher risk statistically of it happening again. Predators can almost smell it on their victims instinctually. She turned that around and became the apex pillar of her community. Never again would she be that scared little girl.
Jesus loves you❤️ua-cam.com/video/vCoDTUXHMeg/v-deo.html❤️
A very disturbing case of everything happens for a reason. How many lives were saved by her, and what she had to go through to be able to survive all of it.
"Thank you for choosing me and not another 17 year old girl"... that hit hard. Nothing is taking this woman down! Mad respect to her!
She is a Boss👏👏👏👏
As someone who was never helped because I "didn't appear distressed" this gets to me on so many levels.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. It is unfair and you deserve better.
Some people are far more calm. I have a close friend like that. Police were amazed at how calm she was at her car accident. I would have Been a mess
Yeah it's horrible that some people think that way. It's sad you never got help because of some bs decisions by some idiots.
It happens a lot.
I feel similar. My dad died in front of me… it has ruined any sense of normality I’ve ever had. But I’m “chill” and “relaxed” most of the time so people think I’m okay. I’m not okay. I’ll never be okay.
What I love about this channel is that you're not left feeling sad for the survivors. They really focus on the fact that the survivors survived and are thriving now and that is the most uplifting way to share these tragic stories. This gives people hope and inspires people and I'm very happy to find a channel that presents these disturbing stories with such positivity.
I hate how victims are supposed to "act" a certain way. The poor girl had been molested as a child and no one person is the same. She is a survivor and acted as such and I for one commend her
I don't like the word "hate"
use it one more time this month and i'll consider making a reservation in hell for you
Amber Heard. We let her down. We really did.
@@jennifertoolis296 There's a lot of ways for victims to act, but to shit in the bed of someone you're supposedly scared to death of? To tell them you hit them? To tell them no one will ever believe them? That certainly isn't it. If there was any evidence he was physically abusive, especially while high, they absolutely would've found it in the trial. But if you can't even do something as simple as finding evidence that a drug abusing celebrity is violent, then it doesn't exist.
No one should ever be judged by how they handle themselves after a horrific incident like that. Anybody that does is an absolute fool and I'm sorry that should have the same thing happen to them see how they act.
@@nekochaneve no it took six years and alot of money for him to manipulate evidence.
It kind if annoyed me how the cops at the press conference made it sound like it was all down to good police work. That little girl literally dragged their lazy asses and pointed out the guy and had to fight them to believe her story and do something about arresting the serial killer. He had killed so many young girls and the cops had done nothing.
A few years back they made a movie based on Lisa's story. I have never been so angry at the cops as I was at the way the cops treated her in that movie. To now find out that the portrayal of the cops is basically true, makes me even angrier. Florida cops should be ashamed.
clearly he wasn't even being careful about it, other than killing the other girls. his bright red car was as conspicuous as it gets, there probably would have been witnesses who noticed it in relation to the other kidnappings.
Okay. I'm sure that technically there now are somewhat widespread training programs for cops to correct things like assuming that people are lying if they don't fit certain stereotypes in how they express emotions. but sadly what mostly still hasn't changed about cops is that police training snd policy and police department practice are very different things. it's not like cops lying to cover for one another and making false accusations against people to spin cases of unprovoked police brutality into police using appropriate force to subdue attackers is official policy either, but it's universally practiced. nor are cops SUPPOSED to turn their body cams off when they intend to break rules, but they all have the technical ability and the right to turn the cameras off whenever they want, the police departments and unions make sure of that.
@@kellymccain3403 highly recommend the movie to anyone who hasn’t watched it yet. it’s one of the few kidnapping movies that i can watch comfortably, simply because she is so smart and the film didn’t portray her as a victim, but a survivor that stood up for herself and isn’t helpless. the world needs more cops like her.
@@kellymccain3403 they never believe you they always think your lying especially when your talking about sex crimes to a male officer.
I am so glad she decided to be a police officer! We need women police officers and detectives to fight for sexually abused children!!
we already have police officers and detectives who save them. you do not need a particular gender.
She will be overwhelmed by the work what's going on with rescuing many children who are sexually trafficked
@@user-nu3sd7zb2j actually you do. Most refuse to talk to men and request a woman
@@user-nu3sd7zb2j you must not know anything about the psychological work that goes into police work and how great it is to have woman police officers. Most rape victims develop fears of men and even woman, so they request certain genders they feel comfortable with.
@@user-nu3sd7zb2j you wouldn't want to put a victim through any more psychological abuse than they already have. Are you dumb?
The fact that they didn't believe her because of her composure angers me. The abused learn composure, it's written into their survival mode.
They didn't believe her because we know a lot of them don't have too many brain cells.
Yes indeed we surely do.
These detectives talk to hundreds of people each year. You would be the same if it was your job.
@@John3.36 Not true
DISGUSTING THEY DID NOT BELIEVE HER BECAUSE SHE WASN’T “DISTRESSED” ENOUGH! I’m so fucking sick of these creeps getting low sentences and getting away with it because of stereotypes put on victims. She was abused before so obviously her brain had a defense mechanism to it, even if she wasn’t just because they’re calm doesn’t mean they’re weren’t abused. Yet everyone wonders what’s wrong with our world 🤦🏽♀️
Lol but believe all women like Amber Heard, she was smart and knew she just had to point them in the right direction hence why it worked out in the end
@@Jefferey04 ain’t nobody for a minute believed amber.
Most of us will cry by ourselves because we feel disgusting because this happened. There’s a difference between choosing and being forced. Being forced is indescribable.
@@Jefferey04 This persons talking about the stereotype that people always start to cry/get upset if they are abused, not about amber heard.
Its harder to communicate properly with people who don't convey emotion while trying to explain something. You can communicate better when someone is angry, sad, happy or stressed - not when they're blank and are casually explaining something in thorough detail. Truth is often told by emotions and when you're being interrogated or interviewed by police they're trying to match your story with your emotion and if you have no sign of anxienty, fear, sadness, anger etc etc - Then its a much harder job for them to actually get a full logical conclusion of the situation and to actually believe what someone is saying and if its truthful or not. You can tell when someone is lying based off their emotional status, you can tell when someone is obviously pretending to be pissed or angry and then catch them in the lie. Try believing someone who isn't conveying basic human emotions.
I saw her testimony of her story on "I survived" and the fact that she was beaten for five hours by her grandmother's boyfriend after her whole ordeal. That's when her grandmother had enough and finally called the cops on him. The poor woman went through so much. Not just this horrific act but so much abuse before. She is such a strong, powerful, and inspiring woman.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt Why even post this, what point are you trying to make here?
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt Bro who gives a shit. Let her get her bag.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt why you commenting this on everything? The lady went through hell regardless if she lied about suicide or not.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt may you find peace for whatever it is that has led you to feeling the urge to reply with THAT. I genuinely hope you get the help you need one day❤️
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt ok ok does it feel good to minimize someone’s else brave experience ? Good boy , it’s ok , it’s going to be ok .
I recently heard this woman’s story but not told from her, i had no clue she’s a police officer now. Love to see people making a difference
Funny as soon as I watched her I thought she was a cop just by how she talked and then I found out the story was about her and I was surprised
She's inspiring and everyone should aim to be like her
👮🏻♂️👮🏼♂️👮🏽♂️: “i don’t believe this SA victim, she’s too hysterical, emotional, and crazy”
also 👮🏻♂️👮🏼♂️👮🏽♂️: “i don’t believe this SA victim, she’s too calm, composed, and rational”
Exactly.
Exactly!!
Right? Always some idiot who thinks human behavior follows their pseudo psychology BS.
I've watched so many documentaries & doc-dramas on this case.... I was horrified at how she was completely dismissed by police.... Her own family called her a liar! She taught police & FBI so much on how to better help victims! She put away one of the all-time worst serial killers of his time! I have such a deep level of respect for her! A true survivor 🙏
Did her siblings believe her? I would absolutely be devastated if something like that ever happened to me and my sisters called me a liar. Perhaps because of the stereotype of adults not believing children, it seems somehow worse to me to have your siblings not believe you than parents or legal guardians (although obviously that would be absolutely gut wrenching and horrible also)
Her family were pieces of shit - she was being abused by her own family and they likely knew and did nothing while it was going on
@@emmak2971 I believe that it was her grandma and the grandma's boyfriend the ones that called her liar because they didn't want her to say anything about the grandma's boyfriend raping her during three years. I didn't know she had brothers but apparently her mom was on drugs and living in another place with them while Lisa was taking care of the grandma and her boyfriend. Btw, once Lisa arrived to her grandma's house the boyfriend started to hit and smack her because "she was cheating on him with someone else" that shows you how messed up everything was. And how brave she is.
I've been there mums brother police said they believe something happened but not enough evidence due to the years that passed family said kids plays games which later in life regret my uncle was a big teen I was in pre school now I only have my mum who labeled me a lair at the time she encouraged me to go police about it too 😔
So when I was gang raped in a car by foreigners I just delt with it and wasn't able to take further silenced by your own family is the worst!!!
The detectives clearly didn’t understand that a lot of trauma survivors are able to go through incredibly traumatic experiences and be OK, and calm afterward. We’re used to horrors.
I’ve been told all my life I’d be raped someday so I’ve tried to imagine how I’d survive and fight back.
@@chaimomma9198 who in the world has been telling you that?!
That was Amber Heards demise.
She was forcing to show emotion on the stand to be credible, which backfired on her.
I believe Amber Heard.
@@SomeOne-ji8ny no one was talking about amber heard and she legit shitted on their bed and her story changed up every time AND her evidence didn’t match up either don’t do that she was never abused and never had bruises wtf 🤦🏽♀️
@@bethrivera867 it’s true, I wish someone had told me that and told me that rape is not usually presented as this weird creep who’s a cereal killer, but as the people who you trust or people who think that it’s ok as long as you don’t put up a fight when most girls are scared to do so
The fact that she went from "I'm happy because I'm gonna kms" to "I'm gonna live to make sure no one else has to go through what I went", got me crying so hard
I just can't believe how strong this woman is
Wich is both amazing and way too sad
You can do it too.
Pain is temporary.
Retribution is forever.
Me too ugh I almost couldn’t make it through the movie
Hearing that you were contemplating suicide just before you were abducted is heart breaking but shows just how STRONG (and wrong) you were. Thank you for fighting back. True stories like this give hope to many. God bless you.
John 15:5 ESV
I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
God is good 🙏❤️✝️
Hats off to Lisa for her bravery. Can't even imagine someone surviving and fighting after experiencing such a terrific and traumatizing incident. Truly she deserves all the respect!
Terrific?
@@MyAmazingUsername
I think they meant horrific.
I was thinking the same think at first when I read "terrific."
why is she not the subject of a film ??? what an amazing woman. An inspiration not just for women, but any human who faces horrors and thinks of themselves as a victim. Such positivity and purpose for the good of others .I salute you ma'am👏👏👏
@@Calandr28 You thought the same think? Lol.
@@janicesmith2475 XD
"My grandma's boyfriend would put a gun to me before molesting me for 3 years, so it was nothing new to me"
I instantly cried at that…
I wish people would show me that compassion i get screamed at by my family to get over it
@@jesseseguine9784
I am so sorry...we all deserve to be heard and loved 🙏😎🌹...
@@angelacaudill537 I really hope some day I find the compassion I need I know its maybe selfish sounding but those years left a serious mark on me I hope no one ever has to experience those things it kills me knowing stuff like that still happens
@@jesseseguine9784
It frickin angers me too... I'm so sorry you've had to walk through this..I too walked through 4 sexual abuses at age 8 and don't understand the WHYS...,bir do I understand why, when I finally spoke up in my 50's, to my parents, there were no words from their mouths.... EVERYTHING was shoved under the carpet...
God Bless you!!
He DOES LOVE YOU!!! 🙏🌹😎
Imagine being so used to abuse that you can describe it in such a manner that you aren't believed
AMBER HEARD
@@jennifertoolis296 Amber Heard was believed immediately after she called JD the abuser, so...
*Punches Card.*
Yup!
@@jennifertoolis296 amber heard is irrelevant.
@@Solararisa I saw this person write AH's name in all caps on other threads with no explanation. I think they are trolling.
Probably the smartest thing you can do as a victim is show a predator or violent person respect, as contradictory as that sounds. Such men/women typically come from a history of trauma and shame themselves, feeling unloved & numbed to society. Not to fully justify their actions as completely outside their control, but as this case shows, recognizing them as people and not "monsters" can be a powerful means to change them.
Anyone rape you murder you
It's ohk
change after doing that? don’t think people called him a monster beforehand
You can’t change them. Survival , yes.
@@DrB81 "You can't change them."
And yet there are accounts of doing just that. At least in some cases it has effect. Behavior isn't static.
@@glowingunknown5625 You change them by locking them up. As a Criminologist, I can assure you it’s well known, particularly with extreme violent offenders that prior behaviour is a strong indicator of future behaviour. Of course, many claim to find God in prison but that is part of the manipulative behaviour. Please name me a specific serial killer who has “changed”. I’ll wait with baited breath.
Did anyone else notice the tree earrings she’s wearing in her speech? After she said the first thing she saw when she took the blindfold off was a big oak tree
Better yet, she’s wearing the tree of life
@@martini8443 amen
The oak tree is sacred to Druids.
its the tree of life.
Good observation
A man broke into my house, he tried to take me out of my home in the middle of the night. He didnt succeed. When the police came I told them everything. I told myself calm down and remember the details. The detective looked at my mom and said, " you've got quite the actress here." They never caught him. I was 16.
Are these police officers and detectives brain dead? Do they think teenage girls are just making this stuff up for entertainment or something?
Wow…. What the fuck .
@God- how many people lie about this?
That's the same mentalty why these men get away or do little jail time, especially when it comes to children.
Maybe you're referring to some unstable domestic issue female you know who wants to get back at you.
It's the Police's job to investigate - not just being incompetent to
ass-u-me. If it was their female relative, a casket would be prepared. Hmm!
Not just people lying you have corrupt cops involved in sexual abuse crimes too
@God I have never heard of a 16 year old girl lying about getting tied up and attempted rape before.
Damn that 1 tear when she said about the pain of rape tells a long story. For her to show 1 tear after all she's been through shows the horrid pain she has been through. She is an amazing woman
IK right l heard 2 Sick Man For Real
She went from suicide and pathless to the protector of women... my god... hats off to her for quick wits and determination. A real movie character 😮
Ma'am.. You are not only a survivor.. You are a HERO for protecting future victims.
You have my deepest RESPECT.
I recently saw an indept interview with her and she left out a lot of good parts how she slept in the police station for 3 nights afterwards cause she was afraid he might come back for her. She's definitely a hero..God Bless Lisa! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt why are you trying to diminish this woman? What are you gaining? You're sick
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt changes nothing.. this women survived a monster PERIOD
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt wow, really? That's fucked up.
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt Yeah, source, trust me bro!
Suicide is a sin, she'll burn in hell for her thaughts.
and as for you John... Sex before marriage IS NOT WHAT SCRIPTURE ALLOWS for this your will BURN IN HELL TOO!
“You seem like a pretty nice guy!” I can’t imagine what it took for her to utter these words to him
“Women like the rough ones” she didn’t actually like him, she said that to get on his good side so he was more apt to let her go.
@@TwoFingeredMamma get out of your mother's basement and touch grass bruh
@@TwoFingeredMamma bruh lmaooooo
@@TwoFingeredMamma Low IQ
@@TwoFingeredMamma oh good grief!
This woman is a remarkable human being. Her intelligence, moral character & spiritual strength set her apart. I am totally humbled by her story.
Now THIS is movie worthy. let's not glorify the killers but instead the survivors please.
They did make a movie out of it I believe and I think Lisa herself plays a cop in it, I’ve forgotten the name though unfortunately
@@NightCakes It's called believe me
@@teenat7044 oh thanks!
It is it’s called believe me
Yup its on Netflix if I'm not mistaken
The fact that she had already had a gun pointed at her for three years gave her an edge. This woman is strength defined.
Those officers who didn't believe her because she didn't fit the "typical description" of a victim are sick bastards!!
Lisa showed so much strength and determination, she is a hero and I wish there were more officers of substance and grit like her.
Happens ALL THE TIME
@@elizabethbachicha It's heartbreaking 💔 I wish all victim/survivor received justice but I looked up the statistics after your comment.
It happens all the time, it's also the same reason liars get believed. As victims usually don't show the Hollywood type of distress people expect, they get laughed at and dismissed. While liars show a good performance of "victimhood" and ruin lives.
I remember the day I got s****ly assaulted. I left the scene and went to school cried secretly in the bathrooms and went on with my day looking normal. I was dying on the inside but from the outside just cold and showing no obvious signs of distress.
Something similar happened to me. I didn't fit the "typical victim " mentality, so they didn't really believe me. Evidence, however, proved it. The judge gave him "6 months, time served" in a county jail. He went on to abduct and rape more women and girls, some as young as 13 or 14. Those victims are the direct result of a lenient Judge. 🤬
Sometimes liers are the most dramatic, but all should be taken seriously and investigated.
I'm so proud of her. I've been abused too and I just know how hard this whole experience must have been. She's a role model!
From wanting to commit suicide to becoming a protector. What an inspiring, courageous and intelligent woman 🙏🏻
She's a coward, and what she is right now, is all thanks to the serial killer. Had she not been kidnapped, she would be a pile of bones rn.
Also she's very ungrateful. He saved her life, decided not to kill her, and she got him into jail...
@@thehuntermikipl1170 Victimblaming much
@@thehuntermikipl1170 bro what
@@thehuntermikipl1170 Probably so that the killer wouldn't hurt anyone else? You literally call him a serial killer in your comment LOL
@@pinkroses3139 Don't use words which you don't understand.
The strength in this woman's voice and eyes is incredible! The strength she built up in herself, strength she didnt even know she had, through living that horrible abuse her whole childhood saved her from a serial killer! She was actually able to turn her horrible experiences into saving countless lives!
Her childhood trauma did not save her. She saved herself by her own intelligence and will to survive. Don't discount her abilities and falsely credit her trauma for surviving that.
@@abylerog She was able to keep a level head because of her horrifying past. It was her intelligence and force of will that kept her alive. Don't discount any piece of this just to fit your view. It's literally said in the video that her living through her trauma is what led her to make the choices she did. "It was nothing new to me".
Lisa McVey’s home life is no better. “Upon arriving at home, she was beaten and interrogated for five hours about her whereabouts. Her account remained consistent, and finally, a phone call was made to the police.” In a way, it took an outside force like those horror movies to make her fight for her life.
omg are u serious... who beat her
@@tayyibahyussoff5514 her parents
@@tayyibahyussoff5514 Everyone it seems.
Please tell me someone eventually locked her sorry excuse for a family up too...
Can u tell me where I can find the information for that?
I’ve heard her story sooooo many time and the awe I feel towards her never fades.
The show 'believe me' is about her and it is so captivatingly well made. But it's also shows the absolute horror this woman livid through, yet her intelligence and strength shine through. And also the the importance of the police believing victims.
I've never heard of this show, I'm definitely going to check it out thank you for mentioning it!
Where can I see it?
@@fluffyrambochiqui1836 Netflix but I'm not sure if it's the same in every country
Yes!!! I was about to say this! The movie was based from her story, and I agree it is well made.
Yes, that's the series. Really touching. I was trying to remember it's title. And yes it's the same all over since there's only 1 Netflix app
It is horrible that she was not initially believed because she was "too calm" by other people's standards. I have been through so much severe trauma and horror in my life, that I just go completely numb, don't cry and become very very calm if I get put through more trauma. I can never ever cry for myself, I am simply not able to. I feel the trauma inside, and I feel numb, I do not react to the trauma, I become extremely calm. The strange thing is, I can cry for other people, I have a lot of empathy and love for others. I just can't cry for myself. I don't know the reason behind this, it must be a survival mechanism I learned in childhood, I suppose.
Should be a form of dissociation, the brain trying to protect itself from being overwhelmed possibly retraumatized by dissociating all the extreme emotions felt around trauma. There’s a book called body keeps the score that has lots insights on traumas’ impact on body mind and brain.
Makes me feel sick. This fuels my general doubt in humanity.
I understand. I was never abused to the degree this woman was, but I still suffered enough mental and emotional trauma at school I learned to just go blank and stop feeling. It won't last. It may be minutes to years later, but the repressed emotions will come out, just not when most people would experience them or how most experience them. It could be I curl up into a ball and just cry inconsolibly or I just fly into a rage and want to watch the world burn.
Years of therapy has helped, the rage thing happens a hell of a lot less, but the ability to just shut down your emotions? That never really goes away.
It's a defense mechanism, unlike the heart and body, the brain can't process all the emotions held in because of a Trauma, and that's okay otherwise one can go nuts, emotions needs to be resolved once you are in a safer environment outside and within, you should have something reliable to fall back on instead of being retraumatised
yeah i agree but kinda no, but i kinda still agree.
"Smooth seas don't make strong sailors."
Genius level IQ in the most horrific situation. Incredible she was about to end her life anyway, and now she is a real life hero and an amazing role model.
I appreciate where you are coming from but it literally sounds like you're saying a person needs to be molested, kidnapped, and raped to be a strong person.
it's hard to comprehend just how many incredibly brilliant.r remarkably intelligent. quick-thinking people have lost/taken their lives without ever being able to reach their full potential. if she had gone thru with had plan, who knows how many more victims would've been taken from this earth before their time. everyone in her life had not only failed her, but were actively abusing her from all sides. thankfully we know of her remarkable survival instincts because she rose above the pain and demanded better for herself. it's a shame to think of how many children with futures of amazing accomplishments because they weren't "lucky" enough to make it
out alive.
Who would have thought that in a way, a serial killer saved her life. I'm so glad she's still here. This world is a better place with her in it.
The detective is sick... what the heck?! She had too much composure?! What else was she supposed to do or act like?! Some people are simply different and have other ways to deal with trauma! That doesn't mean they aren't victims. Her story is inspiring and I can't imagine the fear, terror and pain...such a strong lady.
@@ADDrecords What has that to do with remaining composed and capable in a crisis?
Because homicide deal with the sickest fucks imaginable on a daily basis so when they encounter a victim describing horrific things but being so composed about it, it usually doesn't ring true....think about it....your dealing with lies constantly and when something doesn't fit the way it always does u are suss about it....that and countless supposed victims have lied
@@eljanrimsa5843 Have you watched the Amber Heard trial? Most of her lies fail to hold up because she doesn't look affected by what she claims happened to her. That's generally a clear sign of lying about being a victim. It's unfortunate but the victim of this case had to lie to herself to act as the killer's partner and so her behaviour might have looked extremely inconsistent with her claims.
The detective isn't sick, this is and extraordinary circumstance and his response is justified, if wrong.
@@ADDrecords Yes, and there are plenty of crazy men in the world who also make up lies, cry wolf and ruin other peoples lives. That doesn't mean that every single person should be considered a liar just because they don't break down crying while recounting the situation they're a victim of. People are different and express emotions differently.
@@snake698 The officer's behaviour was not justified in the slightest. Someone giving a testimony to a horrific crime they experienced should never be dismissed because of their facial expressions or body language. Different people express their emotions in different ways. Keeping a calm composure is not proof that someone is lying and the facial expressions or body language someone is displaying does not make someone's claims "inconsistent." If you truly believe that it's justified for a cop to not believe a woman because she didn't break down crying then you lack basic common sense.
Just because a woman does not break down sobbing does not mean that's she's lying, and she shouldn't have to break down crying for a cop to believe her. Different people express emotions differently. It's not yours or an officers job to assume someone is lying because of how they portrayed their emotions. It should be based on evidence. The cop should have just taken the information she told him and then they can find the evidence to see if it's true or not. There are too many cops that have caused people's lives to be lost just by not believing someone and by not acting on what they were told.
Yes, facial expressions and body language can be suggestive towards how someone feels but it's never proof, because there are always some people that can behave in certain ways for very different reasons.
Besides, why are you bringing up Amber Heard here? She's a different person from the victim in this case. The way Amber reacted has nothing to do with the way this lady reacted. They're obviously different people who express their emotions differently. Plus, you're clearly ignorant about the Amber Heard trial. Amber did prove that Johnny abused her in many instances with evidence. She lost the case not because of "lies" but because she couldn't prove that she didn't write the article about him to affect his career, which is what the court hearing was about, not the abuse. She was also in a room filled with cameras broadcasting her to the world. There are plenty of people who's body language would be "inconsistent" in such a situation when they're put on the spot. It was also proven that Johnny lied many times on the stand while keeping a completely calm composure but I don't see you bringing that up here?
Regardless, that's irrelevant, and has nothing to do with this case. It shows a lot about your mentality if you're the type of person to assume someone is lying because of their facial expressions and body language and not based on evidence, so it's no wonder you're trying to defend that cop. You're the same type of narrow-minded and ignorant individual. There's nothing wrong with being aware that someone COULD be lying, but only believing that they're lying without considering they could be telling the truth is foolish. Especially as a cop when people's lives are depending on you.
Thinking like a cop at 17. Amazing. She didn’t see him coming, but he really never saw her coming.
That info about tightening the jaw to loosen the strap was on point.
That was trash
Its so surreal to think if she had not had years of abuse she would not have been strong enough to do what she did. Every trial we endure grows us spiritually and emotionally and if we choose life and to give back ...wow! You get a career hero like her. So sorry for all the loved ones of those beautiful girls.
I will be teaching my children the dangers of the world and how to protect themselves in every way, hopefully they will be able to do the same if (God forbid) they were ever in danger - without ever experiencing abuse 🙏 cross my heart, touch wood
What a totally sick thing to say. No, being raped does not help us grow. This woman would have committed suicide that night if she hadn't been kidnapped and further abused.
I think your point is important and I understand the sentiment behind it. I think we need to encourage people that they are strong and brave in spite of their circumstances, not because of them.
Violence and trauma shouldn’t be redeemed by the strength of survivors.
I think she was already strong and was strong enough to do what she did in spite of years of abuse. She suffered through so much and in spite of those 2 abusers, she was a survivor and a hero who wouldn't be broken.
@@Kate-dn9hx Very well said. "In spite of" being the key phrase.
This gave me chills. Lisa, you are incredibly strong, and brilliant. Your story is so encouraging. Thank you
Cops that don’t believe victims are an absolute nightmare and need to be held accountable.
Cops shouldn't believe anything without evidence, no? How would you filter out false claims?
It's not if they don't believe them but to not investigate is the more concerning issue
@@mickyd5009 what if you have limited resources, and have other equally concerning issues to investigate. How will you decide how best to use your limited resources?
People really don't think about this, they think the police have unlimited man power and resources.
@@lorenzomizushal3980 Not relevant in this example and the police CLEARLY were at fault here
I am in awe of this woman’s bravery. Not just during the horrific events she experienced, but her inner bravery in taking all of that pain and turning it into a force for good. Not everyone has the strength to do that. God bless her.
I was kidnapped, drugged, and raped by a guy when I was 14. He dumped me near where he grabbed me from. Because of my previous abuse, and trauma, I remembered details needed to catch this man. The police did nothing. His 5ish year old son was in the vehicle/house the entire time. It hurts my feelings even more, that the police most certainly afforded him the freedom to continue his rein of terror. He has since died, about 2 years ago. I am now 41 years old, scares me to think how many others he did that to or worse. Madison County Indiana. Thank you Lisa!
i am so sorry this happened to you. i hope somehow you found happiness and peace in your life. i cant imagine what youve been through having to go on with the memories… if it means anything to you, may God bless and guide you, let you heal and be at peace.
@@behabtwa thank you! I've come a long way.
i'm so sorry. :(
😔❤
you are such a strong person, so sorry that happened to you love🥺💓
Wow! You are amazing to say the least. Thank you for your decision to become an advocate for victims. I’m so sorry for the molestation you suffered as a child. Children are a gift and should be treated as such. ❤ Bless your heart.
It's kinda like a miracle that the night she decided to end her life she was kidnapped by a serial killer which made her realize that living was worth fighting for.
Wording it like that is kinda problematic… It’s not a miracle that she was kidnapped and raped… And this monster didn’t do her a favor by doing so.
Exactly ⚡️
Being kidnapped by a serial killer is in no way a “miracle”
@@SA-yw5uw Of course it's awful to be kidnapped by a serial killer but to be suicidal and then survive is nothing short of miracle. Plus she became the instrument in which the killer was captured.
And not only that but that he didn't kill her!
Lisa McVey, Kara Robinson and Alison Botha are some of the bravest and smartest women who outsmarted their would-be killers. Their strength and dedication to catching these criminals saved countless other lives. Real heroes, all of them
Just read a story about Lisa Mcvey, she was a very brave and smart woman especially for her age when it happened
There's a girl called Mary Vincent, she had both arms cut off at the shoulder and was thrown off a cliff and left for dead. She willed herself to get up, dug her stumps into the dirt to stop the bleeding, dragged herself up the cliff and made it to the road. She was totally naked, beaten and had no arms, she held her arms up above her head to stop her bleeding out. She was rescued by the second car that passed her, the first one just drove past her. She was 15 years old. She deserves to be on this list. So does everyone who didn't survive though, they were no less brave.
I recently listened to a podcast on Alison Botha. As a South African, I never imagined such a thing happened here nor a person as brave and intelligent as Alison existed in this country. I've been watching true crime for years and unfortunately I've developed a sort of "numbness" to many stories, but Alison Botha's story had me in tears and feeling heavy yet inspired for days after.
@@melodyvalentine8779 she was just naming all the girls Long had killed.
Thank you for sharing Marys story though, I didn't know about it till now
@Satan Worship pretty random...but okay!
This had me crying. what a strong and inspiring woman. she took the absolute worst thing in the universe and turned it into a reason to live. Kudos-ill bet shes good in law enforcement too!
And no doubt she doesn't expect victims to 'act' a certain way either in order to take them seriously.🏆
I too, was crying like a newborn baby.
"worst thing in the universe" lmao
@@ScaLe126 Idk what’s so funny what she went through is one of the worst things in the universe to go through and then having to live and die with it. Nothing about this is funny or something to even argue about.
Crying??? Stay off of these type of videos if you're that emotional
Ironically her kidnapping and brutal torture may have ultimately saved not just her but many other innocent women. Even more ironically her past abuse had turned her into the ultimate survivor--who else would think to leave fingerprints, flex their jaw to cause slack in a blindfold, etc. It was in her misfortune that she found her strength, an amazing story about an amazing woman.
It is insane how smart this girl was and how incredible her survival instincts were. So so strong, smart and inspirational.
Holy fuck. She is the strongest person I’ve ever seen. What an incredible story. Heartbreaking though
@Nancy stink Pelosi kunt why are trying to diminish this woman? What are you gaining? You're sick.
There was a case with a lady and a serial killer that she lost her arm in the process of running from him but still managed to escape. It was just as interesting if not more than this one.
NO, JESUS is the stronger person! DONT YOU EVER FORGET THAT OR I'LL BURN YOU IN HELL FOR AN ETERNITY IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW BIBLE SCRIPTURE AND OBEY THE LORD!!!!!!!
and remember, i love you
My mom is a prosecutor, and she used to tell me....usually r*pe victims forget everything (because their mind has a coping mechanism, which plays against her when trying to recognise the perpetrator) or they remember everything in every single detail...I'm glad Lisa was able to remember and catch that man
Or in 3rd case they remember it till some time and laters memory wiping happens... I think me trying to forget everything the whole time activated the coping mechanism laters.. I don't know whether it happens frequently in rape cases or not but in PTSD that happens.. If the traums is ongoing and is result of sth that happened for longer period then once the victim is set free memory wipe happens
Interesting. I remember every single detail. It took the police THREE YEARS to come up with a line up but I was able to positively identify him within seconds of looking at all the photos. His face, his tattoos, are burned into my memory for life.
He had this tattoo of the bay bridge on his right calf I’ll never forget
Mine makes me remember everything, raped when 4 yrs old. Sometimes laying on bed, remembering it makes me wanna think other thoughts as they were painful, sometimes I numb myself when the memories flashed in.
@@ryuugaeisen8946 I’m so sorry to hear that happened to you, and at such a young age. I have a 5 year old daughter and the thought of someone doing something like that to a sweet, innocent baby like that infuriates and disgusts me to no end. I’m sorry you didn’t have someone to keep you safe ☹️ I hope you’ve been able to work through your trauma and are in a good place now 💜 Sending love and light to you.
@@jennifergraceh Thank you❤I'm quite okay now. Growing up realizing what happened to was hard at first and made me shameful especially when I turned 13-15. But thanks to other fellow rape victims voicing their experiences which helped me empower myself and stop my self-hate. I'm not alone and neither are the others. We're the victims and that in itself isn't shameful.
I'm sorry she had to go through all of that. She did not have the right parental guidance but I'm glad she survived. She is a inspiration to a lot of women.
she's a hero , she saved many young girls and womens lives .... God bless her!
Wow the fact that she went on to become a sheriff and now helps others is amazing. I applaud her, she earned her stripes 👏
Wow, because of her composure and clarity she's initially shrugged off as a victim. This is just infuriating. Cop should be fired on the spot.
He got a raise and promotion
@@niksatt4843 What promotion. Did he get his Master Mason promotion?
Happens all the time. No surprise.
There was a similar more recent story in Washington state. A woman reported her rape. Wasn’t believed and was actually charged with falsifying a police report. Some time later they found her drivers license and stolen camera at another victim’s home in Colorado.
@@niksatt4843 source?
She is the definition of a Warrior.
when she thanked him for choosing her....... OMG what strength she has from this tragedy.. I wish everyone going through sexual abuse or any trauma could gain some of this strength she has... (myself included)
He picked the wrong victim.
Powerful words indeed
@@JoshSweetvale You have to realise how fucked up that sounds.
@@ItsNikhit Paparazzo.
@@JoshSweetvale Wut?
The utter inner strength this lady has for turning the tables despite wanting to die already.
I have the deepest respect for her, may she continue to thrive in her life.
She was going to take her life, and this monster kidnapping her makes her realize how precious life is.
But what about the guy who sexually abused her at home? He also deserved severe punishment.
Yeah I wonder what he got
He probably got his. You reap what you sow.
@@mollyg4980he got arrested aswell
The detachment is the reason she was so composed. A magnificent coping mechanism, if it weren’t for that then maybe he’d not have been caught because it enabled her to think, and remember everything important and have the calm enough mind to leave evidence. Brave lady
I worked as a temporary in human resources for Hillsborough County and this story amazed me. Lisa McVay turned her misery into a positive mode and has done wonders to help others. It's a shame that people profile victims when they are coming in to tell their story because everyone reacts differently to trauma. Sometimes people get desensitized or they assume things they should not . This was one of those cases that people assumed she had not been traumatized because she was desensitized from her abusers in the past. I understand this totally because I too am a sexual abuse victim and when you go through things you have to separate yourself from them or you will lose your mind. These things we go through only strengthen you once you get past them if you can find the courage and strength to do so.
This is very true. When I was forced to go through therapy for my personality disorders it took me a long time to be comfortable being honest and opening up. When I was finally comfortable enough with my therapist to discuss my childhood trauma, I was accused of lying because I "didnt seem traumatized". She didn't understand that I am too disconnected from my emotions (especially from the traumatic memories) to express anything.
@@johndoe4110 yes and when I had something happen to me I totally blocked it out and forgot it which was unbelievable to me because it was traumatic and I put it out of mind completely and did not even acknowledge it until later in life. This surprised me because I was not consciously aware that I had done that. It's your way of protecting yourself.
@@rhondaunger1228 This happened to me too, I forgot about what had happened to me until one day when I was 18 some of the memories came flooding back, though they were still hazy and muddled. It's crazy how the brain can block things out to protect you. The memories are still blurred and there are gaps but I do have some recollection now.
@@johndoe4110 The worst thing to me was trust is broken and it keeps you from ever wanting to be vulnerable. I'm a survivor not a victim but I am distanced from relationships. I don't like anyone closing in on my personal space. It effects your comfort zone and how you trust people on general.
@@rhondaunger1228
This is what has and is still currently happening to me. I'm missing many, many, years. The most frustrating part to me was my behavior. For years I behaved as a trauma survivor but had no trauma to recall or work through. I had "quirks" that I now understand to be those very typical of long term abuse survivors. I become extremely calm when bad or scary things happen. I become very objective, logical, and cold. I cannot imagine trying to report things and be scared and emotional enough to convince anyone. I find it kind of gross how people say that someone isn't behaving "correctly" when something horrific happens to them.
I'm not close to very many people either. I actually have no desire to be in a relationship or to be very close to anyone. I'm not bitter or angry anymore I just have no desire to get close to people.
This woman has a very extraordinary presence of mind. Where others would panic and just shut down, she is able to maintain composure and remain aware of everything around her.
I remember watching a movie named "Believe me" it was based on this story I believe.
It's just incredible how Lisa was so smart at the age of 17, leaving fingerprints in the bathroom, remembering everything in the car and also where they went.
She is just amazing!
Same 😢
I love that she showed up to his execution wearing a custom shirt that said “Long Overdue” but sadly the coward had his eyes shut the entire time and didn’t see it before he was executed.
Absolutely astounding. She is a true legend!! She decided not to live as a victim after a childhood of abuse and then horrific assault. She has an indomitable spirit. 🙏
I know you mean well but, "decided not to live as a victim" implies she isn't one. She is, but she persevered in spite of her trauma.
Let’s also not think of people who can’t emotionally get over their trauma as “less than” just because they couldn’t emotionally survive. You have no idea how difficult it is.
@@slowdives851 this! Thank you so much for saying it
@@slowdives851 Thank you so much for saying that.
@@ImAshlynnCarter Exactly 💯
She is incredibly intelligent. What a wonderful, strong and intelligent woman. So much love and respect to her ❤️
If I had a magic wand, I'd wish for the entire adult world to have learned her lessons. Those who don't off themselves of become raving pshchopaths will be _enlightened_ with the nature of willpower and morality.
It feels like a gross understatement to say this video, short as it is, inspired me. It brought me an invigorating sense of perspective and encouragement. Thank you so much, Lisa McVey. You are incredible.
“Take all the negativity in my life and turn it into something positive.” I love that. Using our pain and trauma to help others…that’s what it’s about.
Huge respect for this woman! Also a very intelligent one! So much suffering and degradation and she has turned it around completely.
Seriously
"I was happy."
As someone who had decided once that she was going to take her own life, I can attest to that. A visceral sense of calm and peace washes over you. Unlike any I have ever felt before. I lived in that for a day or two. I miss that feeling a lot.
Ultimately, I'm glad I never followed through. Im glad to be alive to experience the goodness of life. Whatever little good there may be, it isn't all bad. It's worth seeing.
@7Y8 I mean, you coulda kept this to yourself. Pretended you never saw my post. Got on with your life. But you clearly felt the need to get your words out there, too, so... I don't think I will, mate. 🤷
I love you. ❤️ Thank you for sticking around.
@@vasanthy171 I love you, too! I'm happy to be here! 🥰
We love you and glad you’re still here.
Thank you for sharing your journey!
Can I be honest, seeing woman like her, inspires me to be stronger and have a passion to live, not for anyone else, but for myself and my loved ones. This story is scary, traumatizing, and heartbreaking to listen to, but at the same time, it truly gave me strength. I am so incredibly proud of you.