It seems you have missed the evidence of necromancy. Such as the remark by Greek writers that the ancient Gauls would sleep on the tombs of their ancestors to gain insight and inspiration and then the later recovery of the Tain. Where the filidh go to the gravestone of Fergus Mac Roich and talk to him to recover the full Tain Bo Cualgne. Which does suggest some form of life after death.
0:00 intro 3:00 religious agendas 3:40 cultural assumptions 5:34 naive questions, logical answers 6:22 burials 7:45 evidence from classical writers 11:58 Donn 13:13 Tuan Mac Cairill 14:58 Fintán mac Bochra 15:23 the cauldron of rebirth 16:30 stories of revival 17:40 the otherworls 21:46 Christian influence
Firstly, thank you for making this video and sharing your insight Kris. Cernunnous, or whatever we decide to call it, has been the most influential and 'real' deity in my own spirituality. I'd always just considered myself an 'eclectic agnostic type' until the horned god(dess) attracted my attention. I'd never heard of Caroline Wise's story but there's something about her story thay rhymes with my own experience. Namely, what I'm calling Cernunnous was perceived by me while meditating (I'd never had such strong visions during meditation before) as a young bambi-like deer with emeralds for eyes and very short antlers. I couldn't get this strange image out of my mind. The next day i mediated again, as i do everyday, and had the most meaningful and strange experience of my life. The same deer was now a beautiful adult with antlers and clear green eyes and told me it 'carried the forest on it's head'; the forest was supposed to be it's antlers; every tree was something that had died and rebirthed, contributing to the 'forest' for which this deer was implicitly a guardian of. Then it showed me my great grandmother (died 2010, when i was a child) who was buried and had become a young willow tree. From that experience, I've been so interested in celtic deities, and these things are now very meaningful and symbolic to me. The deer has never told me it's name until I asked after having done research - so my research bias may have kicked in at this point, but who knows. In any case, 'cernunnos' has taken many forms in my meetings with it, all somewhat resembling a deer (although one time i did get a highland cow - but Cernunnous energy was still there), I've never had a sense of its gender though - perhaps it doesn't have a permanent one. Nevertheless, its showen me huge kindness, great wisdom, and I've felt very blessed to have had these experiences and have access to quality sources of information on the topic (including this Channel!).
I'm wondering whether you maybe meant to leave this comment on the "Antlered Deities" video? Anyway - what a beautiful concept "I carry the forest on my head". Wow!! Thanks for sharing that.
Very in depth description 👍. I had researched this a few times and only found vague descriptions of the otherworld. Had not heard about this island of women.
I've been doing a bit of reading on Donn recently, and it's interesting how often the title "Donn" is paired with figures named "Finn". Eber Donn and Eber Finn, the Donn Cúailnge and Finnbhennach, Donn Firren and Finnbherra. Considering "Gwyn" is cognate with "Finn," and Gwyn ap Nudd has many similarities with Donn, I wonder if their was once a Welsh "Donn" figure, and whether in one culture or the other the two swapped roles.
Magic mushrooms have shown me the otherworld as i believe it, its real and surrounds us in everyway there are dark almost Halloween like gateways and your relatives are there some aware of this world some appear to ignore be unaware, everything is recognizable but different everything from the little rocks upwards has a fizzing energy i take to be alive and ive found a huge brass like disc covered in strange and familiar signs some appear to be sanskrit and others are runic and other unknowns that must be kept balanced above the otherworld i don't know why, but the otherworld is here with us good and bad exists there too, so don't be afraid to try mushrooms in the liminal places
this is wher I go almost every night in my dreams. My brother is ther, my grandfather, my aunt, my woman, ,,,, etc,,,, yes I believe this is true as well
It seems you have missed the evidence of necromancy. Such as the remark by Greek writers that the ancient Gauls would sleep on the tombs of their ancestors to gain insight and inspiration and then the later recovery of the Tain. Where the filidh go to the gravestone of Fergus Mac Roich and talk to him to recover the full Tain Bo Cualgne. Which does suggest some form of life after death.
Yes, that would have been another interesting angle to cover. If I had looked at 'everything' it would have been a four-hour video!
Whooo. That’s sounds like a stinky affair..
0:00 intro
3:00 religious agendas
3:40 cultural assumptions
5:34 naive questions, logical answers
6:22 burials
7:45 evidence from classical writers
11:58 Donn
13:13 Tuan Mac Cairill
14:58 Fintán mac Bochra
15:23 the cauldron of rebirth
16:30 stories of revival
17:40 the otherworls
21:46 Christian influence
Firstly, thank you for making this video and sharing your insight Kris.
Cernunnous, or whatever we decide to call it, has been the most influential and 'real' deity in my own spirituality. I'd always just considered myself an 'eclectic agnostic type' until the horned god(dess) attracted my attention. I'd never heard of Caroline Wise's story but there's something about her story thay rhymes with my own experience.
Namely, what I'm calling Cernunnous was perceived by me while meditating (I'd never had such strong visions during meditation before) as a young bambi-like deer with emeralds for eyes and very short antlers. I couldn't get this strange image out of my mind. The next day i mediated again, as i do everyday, and had the most meaningful and strange experience of my life. The same deer was now a beautiful adult with antlers and clear green eyes and told me it 'carried the forest on it's head'; the forest was supposed to be it's antlers; every tree was something that had died and rebirthed, contributing to the 'forest' for which this deer was implicitly a guardian of. Then it showed me my great grandmother (died 2010, when i was a child) who was buried and had become a young willow tree. From that experience, I've been so interested in celtic deities, and these things are now very meaningful and symbolic to me.
The deer has never told me it's name until I asked after having done research - so my research bias may have kicked in at this point, but who knows. In any case, 'cernunnos' has taken many forms in my meetings with it, all somewhat resembling a deer (although one time i did get a highland cow - but Cernunnous energy was still there), I've never had a sense of its gender though - perhaps it doesn't have a permanent one. Nevertheless, its showen me huge kindness, great wisdom, and I've felt very blessed to have had these experiences and have access to quality sources of information on the topic (including this Channel!).
I'm wondering whether you maybe meant to leave this comment on the "Antlered Deities" video?
Anyway - what a beautiful concept "I carry the forest on my head". Wow!! Thanks for sharing that.
@@KrisHughes apologies, I did mean to leave it there! Glad it resonates.
What kind of meditation do you do?
Amen, Kris! Thanks for applying logic to this subject. Logic, of course, isn't the cold hard opposite of feeling our culture feels it is.
Thanks!
Amen isnt that a Christian thing?
Great discussion.
Very in depth description 👍. I had researched this a few times and only found vague descriptions of the otherworld. Had not heard about this island of women.
Glad it was helpful!
This was a very informative and interesting video! I love learning more about anything Celtic 😍
Aw! thank you, Aria!
I've been doing a bit of reading on Donn recently, and it's interesting how often the title "Donn" is paired with figures named "Finn". Eber Donn and Eber Finn, the Donn Cúailnge and Finnbhennach, Donn Firren and Finnbherra. Considering "Gwyn" is cognate with "Finn," and Gwyn ap Nudd has many similarities with Donn, I wonder if their was once a Welsh "Donn" figure, and whether in one culture or the other the two swapped roles.
The Donn/Finn thing is interesting. Thanks for pointing it out. Should be be looking at Gwythyr? IDK! I'm not saying so.
Yes, a great idea to behave well anyway. Not having the answers has to do with being caught in the mind.
oh wait ya mean theres not like a printed out handbook or somethin?!!! hehehehehe seriously thank ye for tellin it like it is
Magic mushrooms have shown me the otherworld as i believe it, its real and surrounds us in everyway there are dark almost Halloween like gateways and your relatives are there some aware of this world some appear to ignore be unaware, everything is recognizable but different everything from the little rocks upwards has a fizzing energy i take to be alive and ive found a huge brass like disc covered in strange and familiar signs some appear to be sanskrit and others are runic and other unknowns that must be kept balanced above the otherworld i don't know why, but the otherworld is here with us good and bad exists there too, so don't be afraid to try mushrooms in the liminal places
this is wher I go almost every night in my dreams. My brother is ther, my grandfather, my aunt, my woman, ,,,, etc,,,, yes I believe this is true as well