Thanks John, for identifying the truth of issues happening in Syro-malabar church of India, and understanding the fighting spirit of Archi Eparchy of Ernakulam - Angamaly. We had a true Shepherd Bishop Antony Kariyil, who analysed the cause of the issues at our diocese and supported us. But our unfair synod has expelled him and deported him. Now this fake synod has restricted his freedom of travel too. Now we have an apostolic administrator Arch bishop Andrews thazhath, who is a true dictator, made several attempts to devide the Archi Eparchy of Ernakulam - Angamaly. But failed miserably. Now Arch bishop Andrews thazhath is threatening to freeze the parish council, which is an elected body. How dare he is? He must stop this dictatorship and go back from our diocese. Now we are expecting a papal delegate, he who may understand people's feelings. We request you to notify these things to Pope Francis. Anyway people of god at Archi Eparchy of Ernakulam - Angamaly is not going to sacrifice the right to have the holy mass facing people. We are ready to loose our lives to protect our custom.
You have rightly pictured that Pope Francis is asking the bishops to walk along with people and priests in their ecclesial way. But the bishops of Syro-Malabar church are against that Synodality. We do not know how can the Pope support such imposing decisions without taking into consideration the people of God and their sitz-in-Leben. It’s a pity that the bishops go against the openness of Vatican II. Congrats for your excellent articulation👍
Absolutely Father Syro Malabar Synod ignored rules and laws of Particular church, Violated the trust of Its faithul by unlawfully implementing the new 50 : 50 form of Holy Qurbana celebration which doesn't even have any theological or apostolic traditional backing.... So sad Even Vatican bureaucracy appointed this arrogant and notorious Archbishop as Apostolic Administrator created more chaos...
With regards to the Syro Malabar issue Rebel priests and rebel laity seems to have links with radical islamic groups (e.g PFI which was banned by India govt last year) and there was the abuse of the Eucharist done by the rebel priests by celebrating relay masses or marathon masses, i.e non stopes masses for about 16 hrs with the same host with an aim to prevent the Pope approved liturgy from happening
If you have any evidence, report it and bring things to light, rather than mudslinging. About desecration, the CCTV footage of the entire event available, and everyone knows what happened really and who the culprits are. They were carried out by Andrews' appointee and his chaldeanist slaves
Truth will speak for itself, this time through John. You have hit the nail right on the head. The Bishops of the Synod miserably failed in this regard because they do not seek the truth. They seek ways and means to protect their 'hard' earned positions. Every one of them. Feel sorry . Shepherds who do not recognize their sheep.
Even the global church seeking way to WALKING TOGETHER - Synodality - the Syro - Malabar synod bishops try to find a way to keep people of God & priests away.... You presented very well the real face of the church....
Syro-Malabar Major Archdiocese Diocese of Ernakulam Angamaly The burning issues that are being faced now are very well presented to the world thanks to - It is enough for us to offer the Pope a public-facing HolyMas. We are 5.5 lakh people
Appreciate John, 🙏 you have said it exactly. The facts showcased are really shocking but authentic. The accused cardinal, bishop clergy should resign immediately if they are not fake from Syro Malabar Church. 👍
❤ Congrats Mr.John Allen Jr. What the believers of the Ernakulam Angamaly Major Achepiscopal church in India wants is that the teachings of Vatican council 2 should be implemented in our sui suri church.The extremist idea of the East make the church completely Non Catholic.The synod bishops of the Major Arch Episcopal church of Ekm Ankamali who had such thoughts of Vatican council teachings became a minority.The strong eastern Chaldaya terrorism concentrated in Changanassery diocese during in Eve of bp Joseph Powethil and this group has hijacked completely the present Synod.We don't know how this happened.So we request that The Holy See, the Supreme Pontiff Pope Francis should take see of Ernakulam Angamaly
It seems that the game plan of Andrews / Synod is to obtain a favourable order from the High Court before the Papal Delegate is appointed. They will lobby for a Papal Legate without having powers of a Bishop in Ernakulam Archdiocese. Andrews will try to continue. Or a pliant priest would be made Auxiliary Bishop. They want the Papal Delegate to be dependent on them to further their own interests. The appointment of a Papal Delegate and an Archbishop for Ernakulam is seen as positive by people in Ernakulam. But what Synod wants is a pliant Papal Legate and to change the see of Major Archbishop from Ernakulam.
we demand the custom to be continued, which has been running for the last 60 years . we are not one but 5.5 lakh laity are together in the name of Jesus Christ.
It is through Janadimukha Kurban that we can see and feel Jesus with us. It is our strength and our life. We will protect it even if we give our lives. Pope Francis, whom we see with holiness, has accepted our request. But some miscreants, thieves and power-hungry bishops keep deceiving the people by saying they belong to the Pope for some vested interests. Abhiwadya Anthony Kariyl, who stood with the Ajaganas, forced the bishop to resign. Dear Pope Francis save our Archdiocese from these frauds.
From what I have been told, fist fights and riots broke out in the Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Chicago when Ukrainian Catholics went from using the Julian calendar to using the Gregorian calendar. This was a bit before my time, so I don't know all the details. However, as a Ukrainian American, I wouldn't be surprised. My parents always observed January 7 as a second Christmas
Ukraine signed the Minsk Agreement with Russia that brought peace, but never abided by it. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine have been persecuted and attacked for many years and they needed help from Russia. President Putin has been protecting his people and establishing safe territory from NATO countries that want it’s destruction. If you also consider Christian values you will appreciate that motherhood is rewarded in Russia and the number of abortions has plummeted since President Putin has been in power.
It was nice to watch the news regarding the issue of Liturgy in Syro Malabar Church… It is because the synod bishops are not in the way Pope Francis ask them… he always ask them to walk together with everyone in the community of faithful….
, I'm concerned about the Synod of Bishops in the Syro Malabar Church. The true voice of the faithful seems disregarded, hindering an inclusive decision-making process. I urge the synod to listen and involve the laity actively. Let's work towards unity, valuing diversity in our shared faith.
Yes John, you correctly noted that Synod of a Church should really represent all sections of the people of God. Because Bishops alone are not the Church, it includes priests, religious and laypeople, men, women, young people, old and children. Syro Malabar synod has become a hegemony, imposing odd laws on people. Why pope is silent? Does he fear arrogant people like Archbishop Andrews Thazhath?
Obedience to the Second Vatican Council is the Hallmark of the Syro Malabar Church, since 16 June 2023, the Feast Day of the Most Sacred ❤️ Heart of Jesus of the Ernakulam - Ankamaly Archdiocese,. Amen. 🙏🏾
To be fair no one understands the "spirit of Vatican ll", except modernists. They are always crystal clear on what it means although that mysteriously changes depending on what their next agenda item is.
Thank you dear John Allen for your words on our tragic situation where our bishops seems to live in Manichaean dualism and burning of heretics, Fr.Paul Thelakat.
So sorry @EFROE1. I had to stomach good old Benedict AND John Paul II for forever (a Saint?) But I love my Church and the Holy Spirit sticks by the Church founded by the Christ and sticks with us no matter who the jerk is heading it. I of course LOVE our Francis. I’m praying for you. May God give you patience.
Jesus offered Holy Mass facing the disciples. Jesus told to do the same. That means Holy Mass facing the people is very important. We are not allowed to change Jesus' opinion.. So in Syro Malabar what the bishop say now is wrong . They say Mass facing the alter. But as our pope do ,We have to offer Holy Mass facing the faithful. All people likes Holy Mass facing the people. Bishops should not compel to offer Holy Mass facing the alter. Holy Mass facing the alter is against the will of Jesus Christ. We need Mass facing the people.
There is no need to put up the "P*ss Christ" photo for the ENTIRE SEGMENT. I understand the viewpoint that it could be reasonable to show it briefly to let people understand what is being talked about, but putting it up and leaving it up for SIX MINUTES displays a lack of proper sensibilities. I expected better from the people behind this program. You're doing a religious program that will be watched almost exclusively by religious people. Please show more respect for the religious sensibilities of your audience.
Vatican 2 was nothing but a liberating experience which transformed the entire church. Just like what Pope John 23rd declared it was like opening those windows and doors to humanity allowing the dust to move out and fresh air to come in. Ernakulam Angamaly Archdiocese correspond to the view that we here have a synthesis of various cultural identities and as Indians we should show more and deeper affinity towards our Indianness than anything else. St Thomas haven't imported any culture to India or Kerala and we in the meantime came into contact with various streams of culture both Syrian, Chaldean, Roman, Portuguese and many more which all had an indelible impact on our ways of living. So instead of imposing, the spirit of listening should be inculcated. This should accomodate the voice of the laity and should pay heed to their opinion before implementing something unilaterally.
"Vatican 2 was nothing but a liberating experience which transformed the entire church" You forgot to note all the data points which vindicate Vatican ll: So few priests abandoning their calling. Massively increased numbers in seminaries. Massively increased numbers in the pews. Obvious renewed reverence for the Holy Eucharist during the new latin rite The world media attention to the formal views of the Holy Catholic Church.
The Church in India is being shattered and loses its spirit to witness Christ Together by an unnecessary imposition of a ritual which will ultimately take the church backward…In an era when everyone in the church from top to bottom talk on Synadality…walking together..participative church here is a leadership which is autocratic by trying to execute what they find to be ‘right’ , keeping Christ far away.
About the Holy Year. All you have to do is walk through the holy door of each of the four principal papal basilicas, go to confession and communion and say a prayer for the pope. That is it. Don't go there and fail to do those things. What not to do? Avoid the mob at the Vatican Museum. Looking at art is not intrinsic to a pilgrimage, but you won't see any art there, only peoples' backs. You will have to go to confession again if you set foot in that museum, which is one of the most wonderful museums in the world, but no one has seen any art there for decades, and it will only be worse in a Holy Year.
Open Transparency and Full Accountability is needed when the Aim is: keeping children Safe. These must be written into these policies for each Bishop's to follow. +++
@@Jimboken1 If the policies are not written, they can not be held responsible for the lack of fulfilling of them. Policy is law. It is written so it can be unveiled to whomever and to the community of people and a table of people especially trained in them, oversee that is is unfolded and training takes place of these policies and upheld. That is the whole meaning of Policy. If no policy than no accountability. You would like to see transparency and accountability wouldn't you? Than policy is essential to be followed. Policy! It is a map to follow for those involved so law is upheld. It becomes The wild west otherwise. All the world and every workplace has POLICYMAKERS except the Catholic church!
I have given up understanding pope Francis for several years. Instead, I pray daily for his daily renewal of his vows of ordinations. Between pope Francis and our corrupt politicians i feel i have lost my place in this world!
Lay organisations must come up against the wrong bishops in the catholic Church. The spirit of Jesus Christ is not followed by these bishops. It was a tragedy i have to see the bishops team come to vandalise the Church and the synod approve the same. Shame shame the synod.
At times, to preach peace and forgiveness is insufficient. There may be a need to undertake a ‘spiritual struggle’. The present war, at its very core, is birthed from perverted symbiosis of religious and nationalist ambitions of a totalitarian regime. This war is inherently ideological in its origin. In order to achieve victory, it is necessary to resort to ideological and spiritual means. The Church must take it upon itself to repudiate the Patriarch’s blasphemy. The position of the Moscow’s Patriarch is dubious insofar as he blesses a murderous war elevated to the status of a crusade. In light of the silence of the Pope regarding the involvement of the Russian Church in the war, it is very good to see that Patriarch Bartholomew has taken the challenge to respond to Moscow’s perversion of the Christian message and in doing so, has shown all the signs of a truly spiritual leadership. At this point, there is no room for diplomacy or half-measures as they only deepen the infamy of the Russian church and all that it inspires. Faithfully yours, bishop Vincent Berg.
I somehow found your presentations on UA-cam. So far I have really enjoyed what you have to say. I will admit I am not fond of the present Pope and the changes he is trying to make. At any rate, keep up the good work you are doing.
King Carlos and Gustepa Iived in Athens l met them in 1980's There was a pretty young girl about 5 or 6 years old l was baby sitter for her for a short time Her name was Emanuella. I am sure she is the one missing girl I found out she lives in Southern lreland now doing musical business with Eric May who is Gustepa
The Catholic Church, according to the Second Vatican Council is Matthew 5 : 3 - The People of God, The Poor of God- The Anawim of YHWH ; The Poor in Spirit! - The Ernakulam - Ankamaly Archdiocese, Amen. 🌷
I have given up the attempt in trying to come up with novel ways to express what a treat most of the world misses out on by not seeing these weekly 20-30 minutes snatches of JA even if for all the "wrong" reasons (certainly in my case, none of them Catholic!) although that exclusivity somehow lends the awareness - and consumption - of these beautifully crafted and sparkling snippets an almost illicit quality!😅 It seems churlish therefore, to make any comment on the issues covered and I shall limit them to very few. John wisely keeps his own thoughts to literally zero, never mind to a minimum, concerning the issues swirling around Zollner's resignation. Incidentally, as someone eminently acquainted with human nature, it is refreshing that not one molecule if me is inclined to give the side eye to Fr Zollner who I feel is a rare case (in any context Catholic or otherwise) of an outstanding, unimpeachable and exemplary figure, trying to achieve that thing Roger Moore does as 007 when he's abandoned in the lake surrounded by crocodiles and skips deftly over the forest of semi submerged leathery snouts, with a fusillade of snapping jaws trailing his progress to safety, just milliseconds behind his departure to the following peril-laden stepping stone. Fr Zollner's actions I'm afraid, speak loudly and clearly to the worldwide Catholic Church which, despite its apparent 2000 year resilience, I do not think has fully appreciated the danger it is in - after all, it may well have got away with the most arrogantly blithe and effete aristocratically waspish waving away with a little flick of the wrist for much more than a dozen centuries - but that is primarily because all of that time, bar the last dozen (or two) years, it has been able to conduct its operations without the gaze of the Internet AND shielded by the cowering deference of the masses. Both of those occurrences happening independently and at different times would be considered serious challenges - dangerous - to the Catholic Church. But for both to be swiped simultaneously seems to be akin to the sheet over the vampire's coffin being flung off at the same time the curtains open and the coffin lid kicked off....Dracula had better hope the sun isn't quite yet up - or at least that it's cloudy - since we've all seen the movies and dont need telling what happens next! Those "in the know" are fully aware, despite Francis' desire to mix the fruit corner (how apt?) - the concentrated sugary, tangy goodness of the bishops' power - into the pappier, mushier, blander creaminess of the presbyteral and lay yoghurt. But everyone in the know, is also aware that, at best, you get a ripple effect rather than pure homogeneity with anything less than the most determined stirring......
My priest friends from India tell me that the "unified form" was crafted by the synod as a compromise, because some priests were saying Mass toward the people all of the time (the reformed way), and some were doing the opposite all the time (the traditional way). So the "unified form" required all the priests to face the people some of the time and not to face them the rest of of the time. This particular conflict seems to pit the "unified form" authorities against the "face us all the time" people. There are other "face us never" people on the sidelines. I have a solution to recommend. Put a big mirror behind the altar. When the priest is facing the people, you can look in the mirror to see his back. When the priest is facing away from the people, you can look in the mirror and see his face. Then everybody can be happy. (Insert happy face emoji. Maybe two.)
Your priest friends didn't tell you that the priest turns to the altar at Consecration..Also this liturgical changes is the dream of former Bishop of a place called Changanacherry. There's always been competition between these diocese for supremacy. With more Bishops from that diocese in the Synodany vote is a cakewalk for them. This controversy has made sure more people will go to hell than to heaven and Jesus said those who cause children to sin ,here the whole dioces under the care of the bishop, should have millstones tied round their necks and pushed into the sea.The Synod should behave in a more responsible and mature mannernot like stubborn overlords,which they aren't
John Allen - the unified liturgy has been adopted by 34 out of the 35 Syro Malabar dioceses, the issue is only with 1 diocese.also these rebel priest and rebel laity has allegedly links with some radical islamist Jihadists movements in Kerala (namely Popular front of India, Jamthe islami which are considered to be sources of their funding). Rebel priests have been alleged to have kidnapped the previous archbishop and Vatican asked him to step down last year. in additon to that they engaged in Eucharistic abuse punishable by cannon law where in they celebrated relay masses (like running a relay in olympics) or marathon masses, i.e non stopes masses for about 16 hrs with the same host with an aim to prevent the Pope approved liturgy from happening
Popes "even-handed approach" towards Russia and Ukraine. Yes. Especially when Russia invaded Ukraine the Pope "even-handedly" stood at the doors of the Russian embassy begging to talk to Putin. Only because Putin was busy and the pilgrimage to the embassy was prolonging the Pope forgot to talk to Zelensky. Later when Mr Putin was perpetrating genocides on Ukrainian civilian population the Pope was fervently praying for the souls of the poor Russian soldiers fulfilling their duties to the Motherland...
With regards to the Syro Malabar issue Rebel priests and rebel laity seems to have links with radical islamic groups (e.g PFI which was banned by India govt last year) and there was the abuse of the Eucharist done by the rebel priests by celebrating relay masses or marathon masses, i.e non stopes masses for about 16 hrs with the same host with an aim to prevent the Pope approved liturgy from happening
Your picture depiction is lopsided. Syro Malabar church is an independent church and synad holds the authority in the matters of faith and liturgy. And this form new mass well discussed for decades and its sort of a compromise formula encompassing two versions of theology as during the time of second Vatican council, few church leaders started a new form of mass without the approval from Vatican. Thats the root cause. There were multiple failed occasions to start a common way to celebrate mass as we had multiple versions of mass celebration. Finally except Ernakulam archdiocese, it was implemented fully by all. There were numerous grave things happened in basilica church during the last Christmas. A set of rebel priests said mass 16 hours continuously throughout night as a form of protest for some priest to celebrate new form of mass. Have you ever heard in the history of church to use mass as a form of protest. It was a marathon relay mass non stop for 16 hours..Rebel priests knew that police can not Stop them as they were saying protest mass. Finally bunch of laitys came and stopped. We are curious to know the position of Vatican on these protest mass and its stand on disciplinary action. There are some senior priests facing court trial on forgery against the cardinal of the church claiming cardinal is having lots of unaccounted money from this archdiocese You should try to make a new video after some more research. You should be able to get lots of interesting forms of protests done by some priests which beyond imagination
Apparently you don't belong to Ernakulam diocese. If it is an independent church why do they keep quoting the Pope. Anyway what the Synod claims pope Francis has said on this is their twisted version.. Jesus said the devil comes to divide and kill,the Synod is doing just that,dividing and killing the Syro Malabar church
Oh, great pumpkin? Do you know Satan personally? Is his name on your Dance Card? A secret revealed: he prefers to be called Lucifer (Genesis; I’m Catholic. Don’t know the exact verse!) He’s under the impression he is full of light (False News) and not full of sh_t (MSNBC). Love ya!
1 The whole diocese of Ernakulam Angamaly have requested Mass facing the people. 2 it is not disobedience but our deep belief and faith we want Eucharist the way Christ did 3 St Mary’s Bascilica was desecrated by a small group under the instruction of the cardinal and Bishop Thazath. 4 They had police enter the altar while Mass was in progress with no regard to the sanctity and holiness of the holy altar. 5 Thier sim was to shut down and he Bascilica thinking they could make the whole diocese yield to their plan. 6. Andrews Thazath acts like a mafia leader , he has personal goons who caused destruction in the bishop’s house 7 He has used a spiritual channel in Thrissur , his home diocese to spread lies . 8 The cardinal schemed and removed a good bishop who was peacefully looking after the Diocese of Ernakulam Angamaly diocese. Due to the harassment of the cardinal and bishop Thazath Bishop Kariyil ended up having a stroke a victim to many ailment 9 Bishop Thazath and the cardinal are abominations to the Catholic Church The Syro Malabar synod is manned by bishops who were appointed by Cardinsl Alencherry to support him in the scheme of establishing the Caladean church with him as the patriarch. 9 The Caladean church plans to remove many of the holy practices including the rosary from the devotional practices of our church. The tabanacle has been removed in their churches from its place of prominence on the centre of the altar. A curtain has been added before the altar , the Mass and beliefs have shifted from depths of spiritual to one of ritualistic and cultural entity We the people of Ernakulam Angamaly diocese are unwilling to give up the deep faith and join the symbolic service. How can any one call us disobedient. We are standing deep in our faith . We stand firm in our beliefs. We request the pope to give us special dispensation to form a special entity like the AMBROSIAN RIGHT. 10 we hope the pope understands the unworthiness of the Bishops of the Syro Malabar church and deputes a just and honest representation to study this issue. So that this ancient church is not destroyed
Thanks Mr. John for revealing the correct facts in Syro -Malabar church. God Bless You Mr. John. 🌹🌹🙏
Thanks Mr. John for revealing the current scenarios and truth of eastern church. Synod didn't know the mind of sheep
Thanks Mr.John for revealing the true factors happening in Syro Malabar church.
Thanks John, for identifying the truth of issues happening in Syro-malabar church of India, and understanding the fighting spirit of Archi Eparchy of Ernakulam - Angamaly. We had a true Shepherd Bishop Antony Kariyil, who analysed the cause of the issues at our diocese and supported us. But our unfair synod has expelled him and deported him. Now this fake synod has restricted his freedom of travel too. Now we have an apostolic administrator Arch bishop Andrews thazhath, who is a true dictator, made several attempts to devide the Archi Eparchy of Ernakulam - Angamaly. But failed miserably. Now Arch bishop Andrews thazhath is threatening to freeze the parish council, which is an elected body. How dare he is? He must stop this dictatorship and go back from our diocese. Now we are expecting a papal delegate, he who may understand people's feelings. We request you to notify these things to Pope Francis. Anyway people of god at Archi Eparchy of Ernakulam - Angamaly is not going to sacrifice the right to have the holy mass facing people. We are ready to loose our lives to protect our custom.
Thanks sir very true God bless you❤🙏👏
You have rightly pictured that Pope Francis is asking the bishops to walk along with people and priests in their ecclesial way. But the bishops of Syro-Malabar church are against that Synodality. We do not know how can the Pope support such imposing decisions without taking into consideration the people of God and their sitz-in-Leben. It’s a pity that the bishops go against the openness of Vatican II. Congrats for your excellent articulation👍
Absolutely Father
Syro Malabar Synod ignored rules and laws of Particular church, Violated the trust of Its faithul by unlawfully implementing the new 50 : 50 form of Holy Qurbana celebration which doesn't even have any theological or apostolic traditional backing.... So sad
Even Vatican bureaucracy appointed this arrogant and notorious Archbishop as Apostolic Administrator created more chaos...
Well articulated by John Allen.
With regards to the Syro Malabar issue Rebel priests and rebel laity seems to have links with radical islamic groups (e.g PFI which was banned by India govt last year) and there was the abuse of the Eucharist done by the rebel priests by celebrating relay masses or marathon masses, i.e non stopes masses for about 16 hrs with the same host with an aim to prevent the Pope approved liturgy from happening
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If you have any evidence, report it and bring things to light, rather than mudslinging.
About desecration, the CCTV footage of the entire event available, and everyone knows what happened really and who the culprits are. They were carried out by Andrews' appointee and his chaldeanist slaves
John you have hit the nail on the head regarding the issues in the SyroMalabar Church. A synod with absolutely no synodality
We need an independent papal delegate for the SYRO Malabar Church in India.
Truth will speak for itself, this time through John. You have hit the nail right on the head. The Bishops of the Synod miserably failed in this regard because they do not seek the truth. They seek ways and means to protect their 'hard' earned positions. Every one of them. Feel sorry . Shepherds who do not recognize their sheep.
The Russian orthodox church are an arm of Russia's former KGB fact.
Even the global church seeking way to WALKING TOGETHER - Synodality - the Syro - Malabar synod bishops try to find a way to keep people of God & priests away.... You presented very well the real face of the church....
Syro-Malabar Major Archdiocese Diocese of Ernakulam Angamaly The burning issues that are being faced now are very well presented to the world thanks to - It is enough for us to offer the Pope a public-facing HolyMas. We are 5.5 lakh people
Appreciate John, 🙏 you have said it exactly. The facts showcased are really shocking but authentic. The accused cardinal, bishop clergy should resign immediately if they are not fake from Syro Malabar Church. 👍
You were sleeping past 60 plus years. Good you:be woke up.
❤ Congrats Mr.John Allen Jr.
What the believers of the Ernakulam Angamaly Major Achepiscopal church in India wants is that the teachings of Vatican council 2 should be implemented in our sui suri church.The extremist idea of the East make the church completely Non Catholic.The synod bishops of the Major Arch Episcopal church of Ekm Ankamali who had such thoughts of Vatican council teachings became a minority.The strong eastern Chaldaya terrorism concentrated in Changanassery diocese during in Eve of bp Joseph Powethil and this group has hijacked completely the present Synod.We don't know how this happened.So we request that The Holy See, the Supreme Pontiff Pope Francis should take see of Ernakulam Angamaly
It seems that the game plan of Andrews / Synod is to obtain a favourable order from the High Court before the Papal Delegate is appointed. They will lobby for a Papal Legate without having powers of a Bishop in Ernakulam Archdiocese. Andrews will try to continue. Or a pliant priest would be made Auxiliary Bishop. They want the Papal Delegate to be dependent on them to further their own interests. The appointment of a Papal Delegate and an Archbishop for Ernakulam is seen as positive by people in Ernakulam. But what Synod wants is a pliant Papal Legate and to change the see of Major Archbishop from Ernakulam.
Reason for this issue is CBCI President Andrew is notorious, Agly, cheap etc
Ugly
we demand the custom to be continued, which has been running for the last 60 years .
we are not one but 5.5 lakh laity are together in the name of Jesus Christ.
What about the Apostolic visitation of Bishop Strickland? That's huge news. Please cover that next week John.
Mysrious you've not...????
Congrats for your excellent statement
Save Ernakulam Angamaly Major ArchDiocese
from Accused cardinal George alencherry & Gangster Archbishop Andrews Thazhath
Thank you very much. You correctly said it.
Bishops of Syro Malabar Church is trying to split the sheep.. They are big failure to hear the voice of their people and priests.
Let Justice Roll-on...Amos 5 : 24 in the Archdiocese of Ernakulam,- Ankamaly, Amen.🌷
I just made a contribution to Crux. Thank you for your videos.
Thanks John!
It is through Janadimukha Kurban that we can see and feel Jesus with us. It is our strength and our life. We will protect it even if we give our lives. Pope Francis, whom we see with holiness, has accepted our request. But some miscreants, thieves and power-hungry bishops keep deceiving the people by saying they belong to the Pope for some vested interests. Abhiwadya Anthony Kariyl, who stood with the Ajaganas, forced the bishop to resign. Dear Pope Francis save our Archdiocese from these frauds.
Please correct to Versom Populam Mass in your comment
Thanks, God bless
From what I have been told, fist fights and riots broke out in the Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Chicago when Ukrainian Catholics went from using the Julian calendar to using the Gregorian calendar. This was a bit before my time, so I don't know all the details. However, as a Ukrainian American, I wouldn't be surprised. My parents always observed January 7 as a second Christmas
Ukraine signed the Minsk Agreement with Russia that brought peace, but never abided by it. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine have been persecuted and attacked for many years and they needed help from Russia. President Putin has been protecting his people and establishing safe territory from NATO countries that want it’s destruction. If you also consider Christian values you will appreciate that motherhood is rewarded in Russia and the number of abortions has plummeted since President Putin has been in power.
Thanks John for revealing the truth happening in syro - Malabar church.
Thank you for revealing the truth fsct of syromalabar issue..
It was nice to watch the news regarding the issue of Liturgy in Syro Malabar Church…
It is because the synod bishops are not in the way Pope Francis ask them… he always ask them to walk together with everyone in the community of faithful….
, I'm concerned about the Synod of Bishops in the Syro Malabar Church. The true voice of the faithful seems disregarded, hindering an inclusive decision-making process. I urge the synod to listen and involve the laity actively. Let's work towards unity, valuing diversity in our shared faith.
Yes John, you correctly noted that Synod of a Church should really represent all sections of the people of God. Because Bishops alone are not the Church, it includes priests, religious and laypeople, men, women, young people, old and children. Syro Malabar synod has become a hegemony, imposing odd laws on people. Why pope is silent? Does he fear arrogant people like Archbishop Andrews Thazhath?
Obedience to the Second Vatican Council is the Hallmark of the Syro Malabar Church, since 16 June 2023, the Feast Day of the Most Sacred ❤️ Heart of Jesus of the Ernakulam - Ankamaly Archdiocese,. Amen. 🙏🏾
The Syro Malabar Synod did not understand the Spirit of the Second Vatican Council for the Errnakulam - Ankamaly Archdiocese.
To be fair no one understands the "spirit of Vatican ll", except modernists.
They are always crystal clear on what it means although that mysteriously changes depending on what their next agenda item is.
They chose not to understand
Thank you dear John Allen for your words on our tragic situation where our bishops seems to live in Manichaean dualism and burning of heretics, Fr.Paul Thelakat.
So sorry @EFROE1. I had to stomach good old Benedict AND John Paul II for forever (a Saint?) But I love my Church and the Holy Spirit sticks by the Church founded by the Christ and sticks with us no matter who the jerk is heading it. I of course LOVE our Francis. I’m praying for you. May God give you patience.
I guess he is indeed "our" Pope Francis.
From my perspective sadly, he's nothing to be proud of although the office is sacred.
Jesus offered Holy Mass facing the disciples. Jesus told to do the same. That means Holy Mass facing the people is very important. We are not allowed to change Jesus' opinion.. So in Syro Malabar what the bishop say now is wrong . They say Mass facing the alter. But as our pope do ,We have to offer Holy Mass facing the faithful.
All people likes Holy Mass facing the people. Bishops should not compel to offer Holy Mass facing the alter. Holy Mass facing the alter is against the will of Jesus
Christ.
We need Mass facing the people.
they all fighting for that powerfull LIGHT
There is no need to put up the "P*ss Christ" photo for the ENTIRE SEGMENT. I understand the viewpoint that it could be reasonable to show it briefly to let people understand what is being talked about, but putting it up and leaving it up for SIX MINUTES displays a lack of proper sensibilities. I expected better from the people behind this program. You're doing a religious program that will be watched almost exclusively by religious people. Please show more respect for the religious sensibilities of your audience.
Vatican 2 was nothing but a liberating experience which transformed the entire church. Just like what Pope John 23rd declared it was like opening those windows and doors to humanity allowing the dust to move out and fresh air to come in. Ernakulam Angamaly Archdiocese correspond to the view that we here have a synthesis of various cultural identities and as Indians we should show more and deeper affinity towards our Indianness than anything else. St Thomas haven't imported any culture to India or Kerala and we in the meantime came into contact with various streams of culture both Syrian, Chaldean, Roman, Portuguese and many more which all had an indelible impact on our ways of living. So instead of imposing, the spirit of listening should be inculcated. This should accomodate the voice of the laity and should pay heed to their opinion before implementing something unilaterally.
"Vatican 2 was nothing but a liberating experience which transformed the entire church"
You forgot to note all the data points which vindicate Vatican ll:
So few priests abandoning their calling.
Massively increased numbers in seminaries.
Massively increased numbers in the pews.
Obvious renewed reverence for the Holy Eucharist during the new latin rite
The world media attention to the formal views of the Holy Catholic Church.
The Church in India is being shattered and loses its spirit to witness Christ Together by an unnecessary imposition of a ritual which will ultimately take the church backward…In an era when everyone in the church from top to bottom talk on Synadality…walking together..participative church here is a leadership which is autocratic by trying to execute what they find to be ‘right’ , keeping Christ far away.
About the Holy Year. All you have to do is walk through the holy door of each of the four principal papal basilicas, go to confession and communion and say a prayer for the pope. That is it. Don't go there and fail to do those things.
What not to do? Avoid the mob at the Vatican Museum. Looking at art is not intrinsic to a pilgrimage, but you won't see any art there, only peoples' backs. You will have to go to confession again if you set foot in that museum, which is one of the most wonderful museums in the world, but no one has seen any art there for decades, and it will only be worse in a Holy Year.
Open Transparency and Full Accountability is needed when the Aim is: keeping children Safe. These must be written into these policies for each Bishop's to follow. +++
So we need new rules and protocols for commonsense and decency and then it'll be better?
You might have missed the point.
@@Jimboken1 If the policies are not written, they can not be held responsible for the lack of fulfilling of them. Policy is law. It is written so it can be unveiled to whomever and to the community of people and a table of people especially trained in them, oversee that is is unfolded and training takes place of these policies and upheld. That is the whole meaning of Policy. If no policy than no accountability.
You would like to see transparency and accountability wouldn't you?
Than policy is essential to be followed. Policy! It is a map to follow for those involved so law is upheld. It becomes The wild west otherwise. All the world and every workplace has POLICYMAKERS except the Catholic church!
@@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt Strike "might"
Is our dear pope actually kept in blind by these kerala bishops!
Rome calls for resignation of ArchBishop Andrews Thazhath , who subverts Synod and post-Synod circular
Liturgy is really life to us. But the syro Malabar bishops synod compell to us do deadful liturgy.
I have given up understanding pope Francis for several years. Instead, I pray daily for his daily renewal of his vows of ordinations. Between pope Francis and our corrupt politicians i feel i have lost my place in this world!
Lay organisations must come up against the wrong bishops in the catholic Church.
The spirit of Jesus Christ is not followed by these bishops.
It was a tragedy i have to see the bishops team come to vandalise the Church and the synod approve the same.
Shame shame the synod.
Go Russia....❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Russia is becoming the heroic motherland that it once was.
At times, to preach peace and forgiveness is insufficient. There may be a need to undertake a ‘spiritual struggle’. The present war, at its very core, is birthed from perverted symbiosis of religious and nationalist ambitions of a totalitarian regime. This war is inherently ideological in its origin. In order to achieve victory, it is necessary to resort to ideological and spiritual means. The Church must take it upon itself to repudiate the Patriarch’s blasphemy.
The position of the Moscow’s Patriarch is dubious insofar as he blesses a murderous war elevated to the status of a crusade.
In light of the silence of the Pope regarding the involvement of the Russian Church in the war, it is very good to see that Patriarch Bartholomew has taken the challenge to respond to Moscow’s perversion of the Christian message and in doing so, has shown all the signs of a truly spiritual leadership. At this point, there is no room for diplomacy or half-measures as they only deepen the infamy of the Russian church and all that it inspires.
Faithfully yours, bishop Vincent Berg.
I somehow found your presentations on UA-cam. So far I have really enjoyed what you have to say. I will admit I am not fond of the present Pope and the changes he is trying to make. At any rate, keep up the good work you are doing.
End up the dictatorship mode of syro Malabar synod bishops
When the crying starts I will not listen to them at all said the Lord God
King Carlos and Gustepa
Iived in Athens l met them
in 1980's There was a pretty
young girl about 5 or 6 years
old l was baby sitter for her
for a short time Her name
was Emanuella. I am sure she is the one missing girl
I found out she lives in
Southern lreland now
doing musical business
with Eric May who is Gustepa
You could be Pope once
he leaves Vatican.
She is his daughter with
Spanish blood
The Catholic Church, according to the Second Vatican Council is Matthew 5 : 3 - The People of God, The Poor of God- The Anawim of YHWH ; The Poor in Spirit! - The Ernakulam - Ankamaly Archdiocese, Amen. 🌷
Which is correct: Pewtin or Pootin?
Putin is the correct spelling.but not in cyrillic.
I have given up the attempt in trying to come up with novel ways to express what a treat most of the world misses out on by not seeing these weekly 20-30 minutes snatches of JA even if for all the "wrong" reasons (certainly in my case, none of them Catholic!) although that exclusivity somehow lends the awareness - and consumption - of these beautifully crafted and sparkling snippets an almost illicit quality!😅
It seems churlish therefore, to make any comment on the issues covered and I shall limit them to very few. John wisely keeps his own thoughts to literally zero, never mind to a minimum, concerning the issues swirling around Zollner's resignation. Incidentally, as someone eminently acquainted with human nature, it is refreshing that not one molecule if me is inclined to give the side eye to Fr Zollner who I feel is a rare case (in any context Catholic or otherwise) of an outstanding, unimpeachable and exemplary figure, trying to achieve that thing Roger Moore does as 007 when he's abandoned in the lake surrounded by crocodiles and skips deftly over the forest of semi submerged leathery snouts, with a fusillade of snapping jaws trailing his progress to safety, just milliseconds behind his departure to the following peril-laden stepping stone. Fr Zollner's actions I'm afraid, speak loudly and clearly to the worldwide Catholic Church which, despite its apparent 2000 year resilience, I do not think has fully appreciated the danger it is in - after all, it may well have got away with the most arrogantly blithe and effete aristocratically waspish waving away with a little flick of the wrist for much more than a dozen centuries - but that is primarily because all of that time, bar the last dozen (or two) years, it has been able to conduct its operations without the gaze of the Internet AND shielded by the cowering deference of the masses. Both of those occurrences happening independently and at different times would be considered serious challenges - dangerous - to the Catholic Church. But for both to be swiped simultaneously seems to be akin to the sheet over the vampire's coffin being flung off at the same time the curtains open and the coffin lid kicked off....Dracula had better hope the sun isn't quite yet up - or at least that it's cloudy - since we've all seen the movies and dont need telling what happens next! Those "in the know" are fully aware, despite Francis' desire to mix the fruit corner (how apt?) - the concentrated sugary, tangy goodness of the bishops' power - into the pappier, mushier, blander creaminess of the presbyteral and lay yoghurt. But everyone in the know, is also aware that, at best, you get a ripple effect rather than pure homogeneity with anything less than the most determined stirring......
Very enjoyable description 😂
@@gerryts2040 I'll not deny I enjoy composing the occasional flowery admonition on a variety of louche and recherché topics😆
My priest friends from India tell me that the "unified form" was crafted by the synod as a compromise, because some priests were saying Mass toward the people all of the time (the reformed way), and some were doing the opposite all the time (the traditional way). So the "unified form" required all the priests to face the people some of the time and not to face them the rest of of the time. This particular conflict seems to pit the "unified form" authorities against the "face us all the time" people. There are other "face us never" people on the sidelines.
I have a solution to recommend. Put a big mirror behind the altar. When the priest is facing the people, you can look in the mirror to see his back. When the priest is facing away from the people, you can look in the mirror and see his face. Then everybody can be happy. (Insert happy face emoji. Maybe two.)
Modernists are blind or in a blind rage so the mirror trick wouldn't work in the latin church.
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This is a liturgy being forcefully imposed on an unwilling diocese.
Your priest friends didn't tell you that the priest turns to the altar at Consecration..Also this liturgical changes is the dream of former Bishop of a place called Changanacherry. There's always been competition between these diocese for supremacy. With more Bishops from that diocese in the Synodany vote is a cakewalk for them. This controversy has made sure more people will go to hell than to heaven and Jesus said those who cause children to sin ,here the whole dioces under the care of the bishop, should have millstones tied round their necks and pushed into the sea.The Synod should behave in a more responsible and mature mannernot like stubborn overlords,which they aren't
@@geethageorge8752 "This is a liturgy being forcefully imposed on an unwilling diocese". Pope Francis in a nutshell.
Of course a former KGB agent will support his buddy....
John Allen - the unified liturgy has been adopted by 34 out of the 35 Syro Malabar dioceses, the issue is only with 1 diocese.also these rebel priest and rebel laity has allegedly links with some radical islamist Jihadists movements in Kerala (namely Popular front of India, Jamthe islami which are considered to be sources of their funding). Rebel priests have been alleged to have kidnapped the previous archbishop and Vatican asked him to step down last year. in additon to that they engaged in Eucharistic abuse punishable by cannon law where in they celebrated relay masses (like running a relay in olympics) or marathon masses, i.e non stopes masses for about 16 hrs with the same host with an aim to prevent the Pope approved liturgy from happening
Popes "even-handed approach" towards Russia and Ukraine. Yes. Especially when Russia invaded Ukraine the Pope "even-handedly" stood at the doors of the Russian embassy begging to talk to Putin. Only because Putin was busy and the pilgrimage to the embassy was prolonging the Pope forgot to talk to Zelensky. Later when Mr Putin was perpetrating genocides on Ukrainian civilian population the Pope was fervently praying for the souls of the poor Russian soldiers fulfilling their duties to the Motherland...
With regards to the Syro Malabar issue Rebel priests and rebel laity seems to have links with radical islamic groups (e.g PFI which was banned by India govt last year) and there was the abuse of the Eucharist done by the rebel priests by celebrating relay masses or marathon masses, i.e non stopes masses for about 16 hrs with the same host with an aim to prevent the Pope approved liturgy from happening
East the religious have relevance in Putins government
Your picture depiction is lopsided. Syro Malabar church is an independent church and synad holds the authority in the matters of faith and liturgy. And this form new mass well discussed for decades and its sort of a compromise formula encompassing two versions of theology as during the time of second Vatican council, few church leaders started a new form of mass without the approval from Vatican. Thats the root cause. There were multiple failed occasions to start a common way to celebrate mass as we had multiple versions of mass celebration. Finally except Ernakulam archdiocese, it was implemented fully by all.
There were numerous grave things happened in basilica church during the last Christmas. A set of rebel priests said mass 16 hours continuously throughout night as a form of protest for some priest to celebrate new form of mass. Have you ever heard in the history of church to use mass as a form of protest. It was a marathon relay mass non stop for 16 hours..Rebel priests knew that police can not Stop them as they were saying protest mass. Finally bunch of laitys came and stopped. We are curious to know the position of Vatican on these protest mass and its stand on disciplinary action.
There are some senior priests facing court trial on forgery against the cardinal of the church claiming cardinal is having lots of unaccounted money from this archdiocese You should try to make a new video after some more research. You should be able to get lots of interesting forms of protests done by some priests which beyond imagination
A chaldean lobbyist. Get well soon.
Apparently you don't belong to Ernakulam diocese. If it is an independent church why do they keep quoting the Pope. Anyway what the Synod claims pope Francis has said on this is their twisted version.. Jesus said the devil comes to divide and kill,the Synod is doing just that,dividing and killing the Syro Malabar church
Putin, Kirill, Trump, hmmmmmm
Francis, Che, Juan, Fidel, hmmmmmm
Yes, they are all men seeking peace and prosperity unlike the American neo-cons who rule Europe
So inclusive that even satan was invited…
Oh, great pumpkin? Do you know Satan personally? Is his name on your Dance Card? A secret revealed: he prefers to be called Lucifer (Genesis; I’m Catholic. Don’t know the exact verse!) He’s under the impression he is full of light (False News) and not full of sh_t (MSNBC). Love ya!
He "believes" he's the pope of dialogue 😅
1 The whole diocese of Ernakulam Angamaly have requested Mass facing the people. 2 it is not disobedience but our deep belief and faith we want Eucharist the way Christ did 3 St Mary’s Bascilica was desecrated by a small group under the instruction of the cardinal and Bishop Thazath. 4 They had police enter the altar while Mass was in progress with no regard to the sanctity and holiness of the holy altar. 5 Thier sim was to shut down and he Bascilica thinking they could make the whole diocese yield to their plan. 6. Andrews Thazath acts like a mafia leader , he has personal goons who caused destruction in the bishop’s house 7 He has used a spiritual channel in Thrissur , his home diocese to spread lies . 8 The cardinal schemed and removed a good bishop who was peacefully looking after the Diocese of Ernakulam Angamaly diocese. Due to the harassment of the cardinal and bishop Thazath Bishop Kariyil ended up having a stroke a victim to many ailment 9 Bishop Thazath and the cardinal are abominations to the Catholic Church The Syro Malabar synod is manned by bishops who were appointed by Cardinsl Alencherry to support him in the scheme of establishing the Caladean church with him as the patriarch. 9 The Caladean church plans to remove many of the holy practices including the rosary from the devotional practices of our church. The tabanacle has been removed in their churches from its place of prominence on the centre of the altar. A curtain has been added before the altar , the Mass and beliefs have shifted from depths of spiritual to one of ritualistic and cultural entity We the people of Ernakulam Angamaly diocese are unwilling to give up the deep faith and join the symbolic service. How can any one call us disobedient. We are standing deep in our faith . We stand firm in our beliefs. We request the pope to give us special dispensation to form a special entity like the AMBROSIAN RIGHT. 10 we hope the pope understands the unworthiness of the Bishops of the Syro Malabar church and deputes a just and honest representation to study this issue. So that this ancient church is not destroyed