Stand up/ground sparring ratio in 1908
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This video discusses the percentage throwing techniques, and grappling techniques.
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Awesome information. Judo practice should be restored to its original form: a complete martial system that includes atemiwaza, nagewaza and newaza in a balanced way. Ultimately, also as a philosophy and way of life that benefits self and society in a balanced way. It is about time proper credit is given where it is due when it comes to Judo's true philosophy and technical repertoire. Thank you Chadi for taking steps towards that realization.
Eh. MMA fucking beats the break out of whatever your super bushido Judo is.
I would trade in my little time doing bjj to be trained like they were in those times.
Not me. The integration of training approaches and techniques from western wrestling have been an improvement.
@@vids595lol yeah but this dude is a White belt so he doesn't really even know what he's talking about.
Judo is favorite, but this channel explains how I can love it even more
Essentially the sporting aspect had significant effects on the development of certain skills over others. Each one emphasized specific goals and training percentage went in that direction. Competition will always limit one’s devotion to a skill set. You get the biggest bang for your buck in putting your time into where it will matter to you. Self defense, no matter how many like to invoke it, is the lowest percentage of where one will use their skill set. Most of it will be in your chosen local dojo, followed by competition mats. Self defense if it ever happens will be a distant 3rd. The sporting aspect dictates training focus and the rule sets ensure it.
When I did judo 🥋 in the early 90’s, (pre ufc) we did 1/3 NeWaza.
We did standing Monday & Wednesday, ground on Friday. Classes were MWF so 1/3 or 33.3%
reps. reps. more reps. then, when you've perfected the technique, 10x more reps to engrain the perfected version, and to erase the countless sub-par reps done prior.
Running out of time to talk to the original 64 olympians about Olympic and kodokan judo. Not sure how many would still be around to talk about it.
What was kitoryu jiu jitsu, when it was meant to fight and end a fight?
I think that there are several ways to define "jiujiutsu" - the way I prefer is that it's a WAY of moving, not an area of focus or a set of techniques. Rickson says this in a seminar. So if we're saying that someone is "using jiujitsu", it's base, connection, and fundamental concepts, which can all be applied when playing withing the rulesets of Judo, BJJ, or whatever.
Seminar - ua-cam.com/video/kmkN_plqq8M/v-deo.html
And here's Brian Wilson (he's the uke in the video of Rickson getting his red belt, for context) saying something similar - ua-cam.com/video/lNsaEOx2hCY/v-deo.htmlsi=tuRUfQa5WBAbBNYm
Replace " jiujitsu" with Judo you'd then be correct.
Anyone arguing for the superiority of arts usually has very little idea what they’re talking about. It’s UA-cam comments and we forget that most people are talking out their ass.
They are all great arts and anything you take on, you won't be wrong. I say, choose whichever is closer to you and has better coaches/clubs. In my country for the most part it is Judo, but there is strong greco roman in some areas and I would go with those two. Somewhere else it is free stxle or Bjj, all of it is benificial for you development and neither is a miss.
When I started BJJ in 1995-6, I already had a few years of Judo, and was Brown belt.
When I went to BJJ class, I could throw guys left and right- but when we got to the mat, they had the edge in NeWaza. I could throw blue and purple belts easily- but they would wreck me on the ground. 😂
Until I got a few years in, then I caught up. But at first I had the edge standing.
What do you think about the bjj pedagogy of teaching a concept and then instead of drilling, inserting all that time in positional sparring (“games”)
Judo throws for Ippon, whereas wrestling lets you kind of tumble and degrade to what is really a turtle or seated position, and calls it a takedown. Neither is right or wrong, but there is a huge qualitative difference between a throw in Judo and a takedown in wrestling. The former is a more difficult skill due to the requirement. IMO, it's also a more martial origination.
Reading Kawaishi's description of the throws in koshiki no kata, he points out that the samurai would throw on the head or neck with intent to kill or paralyze. Ippon simulates a complete win, as most ippon throws are a few degrees or a slight change in angle from that kind of killing landing. Of course, modern Judo is mostly deteriorated, with a weaker standard of Ippon and more emphasis on throws that are ippon in name only (e.g., most seoi otoshis).
But anyway, people who come from a wrestling background have a much lower expectation of what qualifies, and thus do not need to put in so much effort. They intend to continue on the ground, and not necessarily win with the actual throw.
I don't compare Judo and jiu-jitsu because they are two different games... It's like saying chess vs checkers...😅
More like chess vs go, since one is not more simplistic than the other. Different sports but both just parts of grappling.
@@vids595 Ckekkers is not a lesser game for me. It's just a different game... But I've only played checkers once... and I'm not good at chess.
I would love to get your thoughts on the ecological approach to learning grappling. I generally feel with nogi it's a lot easier because there are less variables than with a jacket.
Chadi is there any evidence that certain throws in Judo are later introductions or influences from outside Japan? I say this because the high kicks in Karate, to the best of my knowledge, come from a European influence (Savate) and I wondered if some of the very beautiful throws in Judo (for example) may be later developments that mightn’t have been seen as useful/effective by earlier generations or that were introduced or developed with an aesthetic objective in mind rather than a pragmatic objective. I have never trained Judo but admire it greatly and wonder if this type of influence ever crept into the art/sport.
Kata Guruma is one
BJJ comes from Judo. They might become much better ad detailed, but all the positions and main techniques were already created .
Arguably the difference is in training curriculum/rule set rather than technique. What gets emphasized is really what distinguishes most arts as techniques overlap due to convergent evolution. Same thing distinguishes Judo from its Japanese Jiujitsu progenitors.
@@badart3204I give the Brazilians a lot of credit, don't get me wrong, there has been close to 100 years that they've specialized in it. But they then take a little too much credit. You can see most of the stuff in the old Kosen judo videos.
At the moment ratio spent in Tachi waza- Ne waza in international competitions is 80-20
The co ordination aquired n throws n counter throws is useful on ground n the coordination gained w breakfalls is also useful n ground
All these "different arts" are all just JuJutsu with a focus on one area vs another
Excellent analysis!