This mod will end the FPS debate that's been present since the early days of the game many years ago. Great presentation everybody, I hope this gets added!
Very well made video, I like how the video is centered around being a call to action to Robtop to add CBF as a in game feature while providing a concise explanation about CBF even to those who don't understand how frames work in the game. Also, including the massive achievements players were able to achieve on low fps stands as a strong point towards adding CBF instead of entirely changing the physics or allowing multiple physics to be in game. I really hope this video will convince Robtop to add CBF and ultimately unite the playing and creating community onto the latest version of the game!!
Global Demonlist, shitty list, challenge list are already allowing CBF completions, so if you dont care about your completions will not be placed on only pointercrate, you can use this mod already and enjoy playing without even waiting for adding this into the game
if in game leaderboards find out you are using it you will be banned from there too, that's one of the main reasons the pointercrate demonlist isn't currently allowing use of the mod
This getting added to vanilla would be absolutely huge, arguably even more so than bypass. I literally almost rebeat my hardest first att on 60fps while trying this mod out back when it came out, it feels so much better to play than normally, even without 8khz polling rate
Im an all time 60 hz player. And ever since I got my hands on CBF. My ship control drastically insanely enormously extremely holy crap whatever. ITS SO OP. I am still on 60 hz, 60 fps. And despite CBF being illegal, its fun and can be used for *practicing* From being unable to do Crack in BB to doing it 3x in a row, from struggling to do Limbo 68-100 to DOING IT TWICE. once without cbf too* again cbf is good for practice. From being unable to get 4% in Astral divinity to getting 35%. Click Between Frames simulates the *FEELING* of HRR imo. Good thing I tasted HRR for a while.
On the All Rated Extreme Demons list Bloodbath is currently placed as the **498th hardest level in the game**. On the mobile demon list? It is the **23rd hardest**. The reason for this is because the game has always been so much harder on mobile and 60fps that the vast breadth of levels at the top of the difficulty pile are just simply out of reach for players playing on those devices. And yet- 60fps is the MOST common monitor out there. Phones are the most popular device to play GD on. The overwhelming majority of people who ever pick this game up? Start on either a phone, or 60fps. Hell, some people start on 50fps, 30fps or even 25fps. I know a person who lives in Lebanon who is trying to beat Acu right now, but says that it feels impossible for him to play because he can't buy a new PC and so has to stick with playing it with a "handicap". Click Between Frames may finally make it possible for him to beat levels that he wants to try - but simply can't. I really do hope RobTop adds this mod to the game because it would be an amazing way to open up opportunities for more players to try out so many of the cool levels we've made over the past decade at the top of the difficulty ladder. RobTop please add!
Well it's not even just 60fps that makes mobile hard it's mobile being inconsistent just by itself kinda why the hardest on mobile is unnerfed Arial gleam but still I'm wachu mean
Bro you can't undo the fact that mobile is shit. Also, about 0,1% of top players play on mobile, so why does it even matter? Even if there is cbf, most phones still have latency so you just put tape into a leaking wall.
CPF genuinley seems like an effective tool to help advance gd into to the future with almost no click delay and more smooth gameplay, but robtop showing his distate for it thru unrating psychopath seems like he is avoiding smth revolutionary intentionally to stop top player growth
I would also like this mod to be implemented... I know people can just get it as a mod, but for now it is only available on windows, and a huge part of the 60 fps players are playing on Mac. This means that we do not have access to it unless Robtop puts it into the game (or with use of a complicated 3rd party software that takes a lot of space and only works half the time). So am sure a lot of Mac players would love it as for now it is near to impossible for these Mac users to participate in top level gameplay.
Amazing documentary video about the mod , this shows every little detail of it , even though it is not allowed right now , its still amazing to do levels with 60 fps ( i'm part of the 60 fps team ) that are harder / impossible at this framerate , for example , bloodbath at 30 fps is pretty incredible , but sakupen circles at 60 is unbelievable , hope robtop sees this and make an upcoming update with this implementation
This mod made the game more fun since i have a really bad pc and im using a sayodevice and this mod i beat bloodbath as my hardest demon pretty fast just because of this mod this mod should be approved by robtop or added to the game.
ALSO FOR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE: THERE ARE 8000HZ WIRED AND WIRELESS (though those are usually 4000hz) MICE IF YOU PREFER THOSE OUT THERE. EXAMPLES: Razer Viper 8k, ANY WIRELESS MODERN RAZER MOUSE SINCE THE VIPER V2 PRO, Darmoshark M3 (4k), PWNAGE Stormbreaker, Endgame Gears OP18k More will be added to the list when i remember them but there are plenty lol
I really like the idea of implementing this mod to the game!! I am currently playing a fairly difficult level, and it is poorly optimized for my bad luck, but with this mod implemented it would help me a lot on my way to having enough skill to complete it and also to better master the frameperfects, I have a cheap PC that hopefully will help me runs at 60fps, and I'm jumping from DeathMoon, so this would be good for me honestly!❤ (i used the translate for this comment cause my english is trash, but i understand some things in the video, love you diamond)
I had played sakupencircles at 60hz without cbf and it is hard as f0ck bro, like in some frames I am not able to hit it well unless it is with good GOOD timing
tbh i had this feeling as well but if you really consider it, it'll inflate your skill because it allows you to compete with top players who btw, already uses more than 200 fps meaning their click inputs are more precise than yours
If only this mod existed back when I was playing on my laptop that had no graphics card. This mod is absolutely insane, I pray this gets added to the game, I don't really need it but many others do. Fact of the matter is even tho I don't need it, it would still help a TON.
If this mod gets added, 3Depths by Nemo could get mythic rated, since there will be no more lag (lag is the reason it got legendary instead of mythic, so with cbf, you know…)
This is honestly the best video explaining the situation. I've been really confused about how new and okd physics work and I never found an explanation that I understand. But this video finally made me understand how everything work. Thanks
4:22 You still need a decent system in order to avoid lagspikes because they can throw you off and your own inputs are entirely independent from the game deciding to lagspike. If the game lagspikes you don't know how long it is going to last for or if it's going to affect your gameplay significantly. Imagine a lagspike at a very specific timing in a top level, it's practically guaranteed that you will die there, or if it's a platformer, you will mess up and die or have to restart that section of the level if it has checkpoints.
never really thought of playing the game on my native refresh rate with cbf for some reason I’m just used to always using ldms to make the run as fast as possible
I would be fine with the cbf mod if it didn’t increase the input framerate past 240. Currently, without mods, input frames are maxed at 240 regardless of how good of a mouse/pc you have. cbf breaks this limit, potentially by over 30 times if you have an 8000hz polling rate mouse. For a mod thats supposed to equal out the gap between expensive and cheap devices, it doesnt do a good job of that. it goes very far above, for example, the average mobile devices polling rate, so instead of making things more equal, it often makes things less equal. Theres a mod that works similarly to cbf, but doesnt go past the 240 input framerate limit, called click on step, which I feel like does a much better job of equaling out the playing field.
Except that Mac players are completely left in the dust if the mod becomes allowed😢 Mac is also behind updates so if it would be implemented officially it would still take a few weeks if not a few months before Mac gets access to it
This is what everyone wants needs and loves in 5 minutes will it convince robtop we all pray but with most things this video will have to really stand out for Rob to see it I would definitely love to see this happen though
ok, i change my mind i think it should be added. i have a 8khz polling rate keyboard and knowing if it gets added i could actually get a skill boost(i have tried the mod and yes it does give me a skill boost) so yea
The only real downside of this mod is that it makes levels like 3shih way way harder, but if it was implimented into the main game, it could be easily solved by allowing it to be toggled off when needed
In my opinion, CBF is the best addition ever made to gd. Everyone has the same chances and way more people can finally enjoy their levels with full detail which adds to the experience. Im using CBF no matter what since i just think that the game is in a WAY better spot that way. If it gets denied and its called hacking, so be it but i will stay with this point no matter what.
Actually, no downsides is wrong. I found a small tiny bug in jumping, sometimes, it jumps me really high, I noticed it in ultra violence it just throws me off a bit.
some cbf haters say it makes the game easier, but it's not true. it makes it more "skill based". reason? because if you don't have cbf mod, you will deal with 60 fps perfect if the 180 fps perfect is on the right time for 60 fps, but if you have cbf, guess what? you need to with 180 fps perfect ofc
this video feels like we are doing a powerpoint presentation to convince our fathers to go to a sleepover lmao
Lmao, this is so real
thats so funny omg
Why have me and my friends actually done this. 😂😭
Frrrrr
Are you saying robtop is my daddy
This mod will end the FPS debate that's been present since the early days of the game many years ago. Great presentation everybody, I hope this gets added!
Sup alias
Why am I not surprised that Alias is on this side of the argument
Because it’s the only rational position lol.
@@masterdoge987 because it's the good side
Why is there a debate? If you don't use fps you don't use fps, it's really not hard to understand.
Me getting this mod: "Why am i not a top player now, i did what i was supposed to"
"i got under the awning, why is it still raining, i did what i was supposed to"
@@astroturfisadude I can't believe someone got the reference
@@ВхА yw
Jack stauber!!! 🥵🥵🥵
You need to ✨PRACTICE✨
I really hope that robtop comments "agreed" and adds the mod in the next update
top 3 things that will definitely happen
He won't do it until the situation become like Tidal wave
@@fewsi True
Mods or no mods, I’m still trash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
REAL 😭🙏
SAAAAAAMEEEEE🎉🎉🎉
real asf
same
Just like me
I like how doggie, diamond, and lord vadercraft have pretty much the same exact video uplaoded around the same exact time with the same script
It’s a campaign
Very well made video, I like how the video is centered around being a call to action to Robtop to add CBF as a in game feature while providing a concise explanation about CBF even to those who don't understand how frames work in the game. Also, including the massive achievements players were able to achieve on low fps stands as a strong point towards adding CBF instead of entirely changing the physics or allowing multiple physics to be in game. I really hope this video will convince Robtop to add CBF and ultimately unite the playing and creating community onto the latest version of the game!!
It is actually really good
Global Demonlist, shitty list, challenge list are already allowing CBF completions, so if you dont care about your completions will not be placed on only pointercrate, you can use this mod already and enjoy playing without even waiting for adding this into the game
if in game leaderboards find out you are using it you will be banned from there too, that's one of the main reasons the pointercrate demonlist isn't currently allowing use of the mod
demonlist is allowing cbf??? no way
that would be plain cheating
@@MiguelSD im not even gonna try to explain to you why this is not a cheat
@@surroundedgd and also who cares about game leaderboards, like 99,99% of demon grinders will not be on top 100
"[Insert joke about Diamonds Nullscape reaction here]"
This getting added to vanilla would be absolutely huge, arguably even more so than bypass. I literally almost rebeat my hardest first att on 60fps while trying this mod out back when it came out, it feels so much better to play than normally, even without 8khz polling rate
My brain in school: Can't proceed math class
My brain when gaming:
cringe
This mod is so huge i was able to beat my first extreme demon with it hypersonic!
Im an all time 60 hz player. And ever since I got my hands on CBF. My ship control drastically insanely enormously extremely holy crap whatever. ITS SO OP.
I am still on 60 hz, 60 fps. And despite CBF being illegal, its fun and can be used for *practicing*
From being unable to do Crack in BB to doing it 3x in a row, from struggling to do Limbo 68-100 to DOING IT TWICE.
once without cbf too* again cbf is good for practice. From being unable to get 4% in Astral divinity to getting 35%.
Click Between Frames simulates the *FEELING* of HRR imo. Good thing I tasted HRR for a while.
Legit the best GD explaining video I've watched recently, great job.
On the All Rated Extreme Demons list Bloodbath is currently placed as the **498th hardest level in the game**. On the mobile demon list? It is the **23rd hardest**.
The reason for this is because the game has always been so much harder on mobile and 60fps that the vast breadth of levels at the top of the difficulty pile are just simply out of reach for players playing on those devices.
And yet- 60fps is the MOST common monitor out there. Phones are the most popular device to play GD on. The overwhelming majority of people who ever pick this game up? Start on either a phone, or 60fps. Hell, some people start on 50fps, 30fps or even 25fps.
I know a person who lives in Lebanon who is trying to beat Acu right now, but says that it feels impossible for him to play because he can't buy a new PC and so has to stick with playing it with a "handicap". Click Between Frames may finally make it possible for him to beat levels that he wants to try - but simply can't. I really do hope RobTop adds this mod to the game because it would be an amazing way to open up opportunities for more players to try out so many of the cool levels we've made over the past decade at the top of the difficulty ladder.
RobTop please add!
Well it's not even just 60fps that makes mobile hard it's mobile being inconsistent just by itself kinda why the hardest on mobile is unnerfed Arial gleam but still I'm wachu mean
Hopefully they can add the click between frames on mobile too if it becomes accepted!
Bro you can't undo the fact that mobile is shit. Also, about 0,1% of top players play on mobile, so why does it even matter? Even if there is cbf, most phones still have latency so you just put tape into a leaking wall.
CPF genuinley seems like an effective tool to help advance gd into to the future with almost no click delay and more smooth gameplay, but robtop showing his distate for it thru unrating psychopath seems like he is avoiding smth revolutionary intentionally to stop top player growth
the only reason why i don't use cbf is because it's not in the vanilla game rob really should add this
I would also like this mod to be implemented... I know people can just get it as a mod, but for now it is only available on windows, and a huge part of the 60 fps players are playing on Mac. This means that we do not have access to it unless Robtop puts it into the game (or with use of a complicated 3rd party software that takes a lot of space and only works half the time). So am sure a lot of Mac players would love it as for now it is near to impossible for these Mac users to participate in top level gameplay.
Amazing documentary video about the mod , this shows every little detail of it , even though it is not allowed right now , its still amazing to do levels with 60 fps ( i'm part of the 60 fps team ) that are harder / impossible at this framerate , for example , bloodbath at 30 fps is pretty incredible , but sakupen circles at 60 is unbelievable , hope robtop sees this and make an upcoming update with this implementation
This mod made the game more fun since i have a really bad pc and im using a sayodevice and this mod i beat bloodbath as my hardest demon pretty fast just because of this mod this mod should be approved by robtop or added to the game.
Also, did you actually fall for the Nullscapes bait?😊
Lmao
Very informative my man. Thanks for this. Hopefully Robtop will reconsider!
Wow that was a great video amazing editing diamond
ALSO FOR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE: THERE ARE 8000HZ WIRED AND WIRELESS (though those are usually 4000hz) MICE IF YOU PREFER THOSE OUT THERE.
EXAMPLES: Razer Viper 8k, ANY WIRELESS MODERN RAZER MOUSE SINCE THE VIPER V2 PRO, Darmoshark M3 (4k), PWNAGE Stormbreaker, Endgame Gears OP18k
More will be added to the list when i remember them but there are plenty lol
I really like the idea of implementing this mod to the game!! I am currently playing a fairly difficult level, and it is poorly optimized for my bad luck, but with this mod implemented it would help me a lot on my way to having enough skill to complete it and also to better master the frameperfects, I have a cheap PC that hopefully will help me runs at 60fps, and I'm jumping from DeathMoon, so this would be good for me honestly!❤
(i used the translate for this comment cause my english is trash, but i understand some things in the video, love you diamond)
I think what this mod would help me with the most would be the consistency of the clicks, but hey xd
I had played sakupencircles at 60hz without cbf and it is hard as f0ck bro, like in some frames I am not able to hit it well unless it is with good GOOD timing
tomorrow im gonna do another practice but now with cbf to know if there is a difference
or trying the first jump in aeternus (impossible jump in 60 physics) to know if it is possible at least
Ok but if this gets added, I'll not be able to inflate my skill level because I play on 60 and I'll have to actually beat hard levels
It will still be possible though and much more doable on 60 so Idk about that lol.
tbh i had this feeling as well but if you really consider it, it'll inflate your skill because it allows you to compete with top players who btw, already uses more than 200 fps meaning their click inputs are more precise than yours
Thank you for the effort you put into uploading and recording this video!❤
Nice Video, like the longer Vids
Good shit dude, well put together.
this will be huge for the community going forward.
If only this mod existed back when I was playing on my laptop that had no graphics card.
This mod is absolutely insane, I pray this gets added to the game, I don't really need it but many others do. Fact of the matter is even tho I don't need it, it would still help a TON.
After installing this mod, I was able to verify Aeternus in 3 attempts. Thanks!
Really cool new types of videos
If this is implemented, there will be no more frame perfects.
If this mod gets added, 3Depths by Nemo could get mythic rated, since there will be no more lag (lag is the reason it got legendary instead of mythic, so with cbf, you know…)
as someone with a trash monitor, I am praying that this gets added in 2.21
This is honestly the best video explaining the situation. I've been really confused about how new and okd physics work and I never found an explanation that I understand. But this video finally made me understand how everything work. Thanks
4:22 You still need a decent system in order to avoid lagspikes because they can throw you off and your own inputs are entirely independent from the game deciding to lagspike. If the game lagspikes you don't know how long it is going to last for or if it's going to affect your gameplay significantly. Imagine a lagspike at a very specific timing in a top level, it's practically guaranteed that you will die there, or if it's a platformer, you will mess up and die or have to restart that section of the level if it has checkpoints.
did you not listen him😭 he literally said your inputs wont be messed up by the lag spike its only the visual clarity of the level
solid video Diamond 🙏
never really thought of playing the game on my native refresh rate with cbf for some reason I’m just used to always using ldms to make the run as fast as possible
thank you for this video
I would be fine with the cbf mod if it didn’t increase the input framerate past 240. Currently, without mods, input frames are maxed at 240 regardless of how good of a mouse/pc you have. cbf breaks this limit, potentially by over 30 times if you have an 8000hz polling rate mouse.
For a mod thats supposed to equal out the gap between expensive and cheap devices, it doesnt do a good job of that. it goes very far above, for example, the average mobile devices polling rate, so instead of making things more equal, it often makes things less equal.
Theres a mod that works similarly to cbf, but doesnt go past the 240 input framerate limit, called click on step, which I feel like does a much better job of equaling out the playing field.
Idc whether its added or not. Im using it. Rob and the demonlist can cry about it. Really helps with my 60hz refresh rate
NEVERMIND DOGGIE IS THE SNOWMAN
We beating aeternus with this one 🗣️🔥
Oh yeah, new video from Diamond.
Except that Mac players are completely left in the dust if the mod becomes allowed😢 Mac is also behind updates so if it would be implemented officially it would still take a few weeks if not a few months before Mac gets access to it
Stop using mac easy solution buying overpriced garbage is your fault
Thats why Apple sucks lol android and windows better lol
@@ZoroGMDik but I don't have the money for a pc😥
you should look into getting whisky, which can run windows applications on mac
@@PokeDasher2.2 on ur mac go to the search bar and search bootcamp. It'll allow u to use microsoft within a macbook. Search it up
i remember way back when you had to buy a whole new monitor if you wanted to complete very hard levels
god that was horrible
Excellent video, I'm glad top players are making an organized effort to explain the benefits of this mod and push for its implementation.
This is what everyone wants needs and loves in 5 minutes will it convince robtop we all pray but with most things this video will have to really stand out for Rob to see it I would definitely love to see this happen though
I've waited for this video
RobTop will see this and go "I digress"
Kinda funny that diamond video and doggie video explanation it’s almost the same
Yeah that’s on purpose
I played Bloodbath on 60fps with this and it makes the level free
Escapar de la carcel + cenar + Ver un nuevo video de Diamond = Felicidad
ok, i change my mind i think it should be added. i have a 8khz polling rate keyboard and knowing if it gets added i could actually get a skill boost(i have tried the mod and yes it does give me a skill boost) so yea
top player with longer form content FINALLY!! (except doggie)
doggie literally posted the video 5 minutes after diamond post the video
@@ArthurGD-mx2dg No i mean that diamond made a video which isnt just a level completion
My question is if and how to make it work,on mobile
The only real downside of this mod is that it makes levels like 3shih way way harder, but if it was implimented into the main game, it could be easily solved by allowing it to be toggled off when needed
you to diamond I've seen 2 videos about Click Between Frames today and its not a bad thing :)
Tryna play Geomy dash on my phone and top players are saying the game instead precise enough
Daddy RobTop? Can I have click between fra- NO
I hope it’s implemented on mobile
We need this.
Whar if i have a 60 hz moniter
Dude i thought 2.2 implemented 240 fps accuracy of precision
In my opinion, CBF is the best addition ever made to gd. Everyone has the same chances and way more people can finally enjoy their levels with full detail which adds to the experience. Im using CBF no matter what since i just think that the game is in a WAY better spot that way. If it gets denied and its called hacking, so be it but i will stay with this point no matter what.
Diamond's new change of content is so fire 🔥🔥🔥
Really snowman
Wish i could use it without it deteriorating like fps bypass 😢
Maybe it's just geode and if Rob adds the mod it could be alot better
wdym by "deteriorating"?
anyone else here after the zoink's reply to the nullscape? well im just here because of diamond's reaction on the twitter, funny well.
Diamond switches from trick mode to colon mode in 1 vid
Now this is cool
oil up
pin this now @Diamond
wtf
PIN OF SHAME
This really feels like me trying to convince my parents why I need an RTX 4090 for school 😂
Ччч
Diamond is the snowman, prove me wrong.
Actually, no downsides is wrong. I found a small tiny bug in jumping, sometimes, it jumps me really high, I noticed it in ultra violence it just throws me off a bit.
this reminds me of doggies video of some unknown reason
this is revolutionary
Please Robtop
cool
Super cool video to help inform more people
100k is the future of your channel
REALLY SNOWMAN
wait didnt he already add smnth like that in 2.2 if not then wtf was the point of a physics change
The physics is now consistent but this mod removes the input delay that is based upon fps
i PRAY to jesus mary and joseph that robtop adds this on ios too…
i like the new type of diamond content
it's really nice and it's the kind of vid i'd like to watch keep doing more of these vids (GG 11%AETERNUS)
isn't this mod still banned for list completions?
So aeternus is more possible now?
Yes but the mod is banned on the demon list
What is that last level with electroman song
Rob better see this
ok
''robtop or those around him''' wdym? water? he lives on an island.
Thank you diamond
wassup diamond
Just imagine zoink use this
I can't believe "Zink" would do such a "horrible" thing. I hope "Zok" has learned from his "past" mistakes 😡
some cbf haters say it makes the game easier, but it's not true. it makes it more "skill based".
reason? because if you don't have cbf mod, you will deal with 60 fps perfect if the 180 fps perfect is on the right time for 60 fps, but if you have cbf, guess what? you need to with 180 fps perfect ofc
that's so cool
Man screw all that, what ever happened to fallen symphony😭
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