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The Battle Of The Boyne 1690 - Why Is It Celebrated?
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- The Battle of the Boyne 1690, Ireland.
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Every year on the 12th July, Northern Ireland’s loyalist, protestant community celebrate the battle of the Boyne.
A battle fought in 1690 between 2 kings involving nearly 60,000 troops, on the banks of a river in Ireland.
One representing Irish Catholic hopes and the other, representing Protestant aspirations.
But what actually happened at the Battle of the Boyne,?
And why were they fighting at all?
Following a recent poll here on UA-cam, I know that it is a question that many of you are keen to find out about.
So, It’s time to explore the battle that still shapes Ireland to this day.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:37 Story Begins
1:09 Protestant hopes & fears
2:58 The Glorious Revolution
4:28 Ireland
6:38 International Dimension
8:00 The Siege of Londonderry
9:34 Tide Turns
11:19 William takes charge
12:08 The Armies
15:04 Battle of the Boyne begins
16:14 James makes a mistake
17:22 William attacks
19:24 Jacobite cavalry
20:35 William crosses the Boyne
21:12 End of the battle
23:41 Battle of the Boyne celebrations
24:56 Jacobites
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My name is Chris Green and I love to share stories from British history. Not just because they are interesting but because, good or bad, they have shaped the world we live in today.
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A stunning well made video, one of the best channels on the internet.All our kids should see this channel.
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You're a brave man for covering this one Chris - and for insisting on 'Londonderry' as well!
Great work bringing out the political and dynastic aspects of this conflict - it wasn't just sectarian and was quite complicated in some ways as you rightly say.
Appreciate that the video was already quite long but it's hard to really make sense of Irish history without making clear that the Irish Protestant population were and are almost entirely settlers from Scotland and England deliberately planted there to displace the Gaelic (and Catholic) natives. This wasn't an intra-Irish argument about religious doctrine, it was a war of conquest and colonisation, and the plantation was only a few generations old in 1690 as well.
Quite poor on the Irish context all right. Needs to mention the Ulster Plantation, 1641 rebellion and subsequent wars, Cromwellian Plantation and Restoration in Ireland. At a minimum.
It's already 25 mins long. You'd need a Ridley Scott epic to keep everyone happy.
My great gran brought my gran & all her brood to Scotland from Ireland way back , later my gran married & had my dad who in turn met & married my mum resulting in me & my siblings . I did a DNA no surprises that it came back very Celtic with :
83% Irish Scottish Welsh
11.4 % South Italian & Greek
5.6 % Baltic.
I’m very proud of my roots both in Scotland & Ireland.
Interestingly my son
had English DNA from a grandparent he’s also extremely happy about .
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Well it is Londonderry 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
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The face of that horse is hilarious! Great painting.
Another classic, as always, though I am an American, I can never get enough of British history. Thank you for the English language and all that you've done for the world!!!!
Same here
Happy 4th of July...😊😊😊
Twenty years or. So b4. The Dutch ha. Won a marritme war against the British. Forgive. Me for saying this that. The ditch king on the British tone lookore like a coup. Delat. Than a revolution from my reading of the history.
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Irish and British history???
I thoroughly enjoyed this story, it always amazes me how all of these groups which are closely linked do not get along at all, they always seem to be in dispute about something. I guess I cannot talk because of the state of our country. I really enjoy learning more about British history especially the parts I know so little about, well done, friend. Feliz cuatro del julio tambien!
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While not Boyne related, when I went on holiday last year to Torquay and then did a day trip to Brixham, I was rather surprised by how involved it was with William of Orange and the Glorious Revolution.
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A small number of Dutch ships had sailed up the Thames. Rover not many years b4 and destroyed a large number of British ships. They failed to stop them getting away. And then not many years after the Dutch. King is on the throne of England. He did this unipped. A great revolution or a coup delay. It's for u to decide what it was
Didn't know that. Wonder why that is. Interested to know more
I can't lie, I find this the most head-spinning period of English history. Thanks for setting the background to the battle; the context really helped with what followed.
you forget it was Scottish history as the English kings got wiped out in 1066 by the Normans
House of Stuart took over in 1603 under King James 6th of Scotland not sure why English Historians always say James 1st or Charles 2nd of England James 6th was already King of Scotland and took the English crown in 1603 and Charles 2nd was already King of Scotland!!!
Also Elizabeth ll of England should be referred to as the 1st of Scotland.
@@Valhalla88888there were were no pureblooded "English in 1066. The Kingdom of England was variously inhabited by a hodgepodge of the descendants of Britons Angles Saxons Freisans Jutes and Danes. The various kings of that Kingdom were of mixed ancestry including a bunch of Danish kings. With the English language only later eclvolving from various germanic dialects having little if any similarities to the English language spoken today which has evolved from Anglisc Norman French Latin and who knows what else
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As an Englishman with both Protestant Scots-Irish and Catholic Irish ancestors, I grew up with the history of the conflict.
Northern England has a great many who are of Catholic Irish ancestry as it was the place with the largest population of recusant Catholics in it's rural backwaters.
It was also the seat of the Industrial Revolution and the west was close to the ports in Ireland.
Growing up, I knew several Irish men and women who'd moved here during the 20th century looking for work.
My Irish grandfather was a REME diesel fitter who served in Burma with the predominately Orange 8th (Belfast) Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment, Royal Artillery.
After the war, he still visited his old comrades in Ulster, much to the bemusement of the local Catholics.
This was excellent. Thank you.
Nice flag
We all know who won-as Simon Schama said- “No one”.
Seems like a good viewpoint.
an eye for an eye left everyone blind
Religion is the worst thing God invented. Thank God i'm an atheist!
A nice musical start to the video 😄
When Marshal Schomberg spied the French troops in the Jacobite army, he turned to his Huguenot soldiers whilst pointing at the Frenchmen and said, "Gentleman, there are your oppressors!".
Marshal Schomberg is still remembered and honoured to this day by the Unionist community of Northern Ireland.
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The Irish nationalist community in the North of Ireland don't have to look so far back in history or too far in distance to recognise their oppressors.
It's funny then that the protestant orange men were the oppressor in northern Ireland.
@duncanstirling5206and wtf had any of that got to do with Ireland or the Irish people other than Ireland was used once again as a theatre for the English Crowns political ambitions
@malachytully5469 Ah OK lol I see
Will be out on Saturday in Glasgow celebrating on the streets then over to Belfast for the big one ,loved the intro Chris 😅. The comments will be interesting on this .
Was over from Belfast did the Glasgow walk and all to do again on the 12th. Love it 😍
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Thanks for telling this story. I had absolutely no idea. I have long known of the historical conflicts between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland but did not know of this battle. This battle is one of the many reasons the practice of both Christian faiths must be tolerated for the sake of getting along.
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Another great story well told. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks.
You make history so accessible 👌
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Great video. Have been to the battle site a few times. Only about 15 miles from where I live here in County Meath.
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The battle of Beachy Head would be good to know about as you've now brought it to our attention 😁
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An excellent video as always! Thank you!
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Great video!
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Fantastic as always ❤
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Great video and you're right its fascinating. Will you be covering the Battle of Aughrim too ?
Yes I will. Watch this space!
@TheHistoryChap looking foward to it :)
Will you be covering the battle of the bogside @TheHistoryChap
having worked in Northern Ireland I have first-hand experience of the fun and games that goes with the 12 of July
Never sure quite what to make of it if I was there. Probably depends who I was staying with.
Try being a soldier posted there😉
@@TheHistoryChappeople die around this subject still, show at least some recognition of the nature of this problem. Playing the sash marks you as a participant not an observer.
It's not just history, it's very real and very now for thousands of people.
The battle of benburb June 5th 1646
My sister married into a northern Catholic family. The vitriol and hatred, from both sides, even in the policing and security around a gaelic football game, shocked her. Literally, when in Rome...
A right good stab at the battle and the story surrounding it. While Aughrim was indeed the coup de grace, when James fled Ireland after the Boyne the gig was up. True the Julian - Gregorian calendar shift has muddied things, I think the Boyne settled things dynastically. Whichever you choose, Julian or Gregorian, Boyne or Aughrim, they settled the modern constitution of the United Kingdom . In any case, 'Boyne' lends itself better to the many songs sung in the North to celebrate the battles.
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Neither of those battles settled the modern constitution of the United Kingdom.
Great video and very well timed.
Having grew up in a Protestant house hold in Ulster, this video sums it up really well.
Looking forward to the Sir George White VC video.
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This battle is engrained in the local mind-set so much where I live, that some people revere certain random locations where William of Orange reputedly camped for a night or briefly visited on his way to the Boyne...
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Fascinating stuff as always Chris - many thanks for your usual detailed explanation.
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It also takes place in the west of Scotland
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You celebrate the defeat of a Scottish King Jame's?
and the East, and in Fife
Very interesting Chris so they arrived on my birthday and I certainly did not expect for one of his man to almost kill him
A friend who grew up in northern Ireland once told me that before the troubles the glorious 12th was a time for both communities to celebrate as well it might be the Boyne happening where and when it did probably prevented a new civil war God Bless Ireland it probably prevented the whole British Isles from once more being drowned in blood
No, it was always a sectarian hate fest.
@@dowdallerno1Rubbish.
@@rickc8865 look it up, if you don't believe me, always trouble around the 12th since time immemorial. You ever hear of Dolly's Brae??😂😂😂
@@dowdallerno1 Have you ever lived in NI? I have and I can remember all sides out watching the parades. Never any problems. Is Dolly’s Brae all you have?
@@rickc8865 I have lived and worked in the North. And I know most normal people, fuck off for the 12th, because they can't be dealing with the bollocks around it. 😉
Its been a long while since ive heard the true story of the battle of the Boyne.
I never knew about the calander change on the dates though.
Growing up on the West Coast of Scotland in the 70's being the only non-catholic at a catholic school (thanks stepdad) i was very aware of the dates but kept my mouth shut!!
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Another excellent factual account Chris, keep up the good work !!
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Im in Ulster now on the 12 with my orange lodge looking forward to a great day celebrating British history 🇬🇧
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Ah yes the so called British Empire which no longer exists and Chelsea FC Chelsea FC which is owned by a consortium of investors led by Los Angeles Dodgers part-owner Todd Boehly and private equity giant Clearlake. With Behdad Eghbali and José E. Feliciano all being the co-founders of Clearlake Capital 👍
@@emcc8598football is used by people with no arguments and legacy of empire will outlive us all
I think it was one of the most important battles from Scotland’s perspective, although fought in Ireland.
If James had won the battle of the Boyne, a religious war was inevitable in Scotland. It would’ve been a brutal,sectarian war . The outcome of the Boyne prevented that.
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A great re-telling of an old story!
Battles and campaigns in Ireland are like the paragraphs of an endless unpunctuated chronicle. The great punctuation marks of Aughrim and the Boyne seemed in 1691 and 90 to be full stops, after which Ireland was to be forever Anglo-Scots and Protestant. But they were mere commas in the story. Many paragraphs, and 230 years later, the fields where these battles were fought reverted to Irish control.
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Perhaps I am mistaken. I thought you had made a video on this piece of history before.
William's victory marked the end of autocratic rule of Kings in Britain.
It would have been interesting if you had discussed more of the political changes the Glorious Revolution brought about with the Bill of Rights in 1689, one of the landmarks in our Constitution.
Best wishes, it is a fascinating story, as is the growth of the Orange Order.
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If you were Catholic living in the UK their was no bill of rights , no rights what do ever , in Ireland they where called the penal laws , priests were hunted down, the majority in Ireland who were Catholic, were not allowed to practice their faith, that is why there are Mass rocks all over Ireland, also Catholics has to paid a tax to the state Protestant church of Ireland, Catholics were the majority in Ireland but only owned about 3% of the land , the rest were basically slaves to the Protestant land class , who were in most cases planted in Ireland , so there was no glorious revolution, only pure tyranny, for Catholics in their own lands
Thanks for making the distinction that James was was the VIIth of Scotland. When the Queen died in 2022 there were some on social media getting angry that many Scots referred to her as Queen Elizabeth and not Elizabeth II as she was in England. What's good for the goose...
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I grew up in Central Scotland. I was aware of King Billy, The Boyne, catholic v protestant, Glasgow rangers v Celtic, orange Lodge and orange walks. No one could ever tell me what it was all about. It was generational hatred with no real knowledge. The same people who supported Rangers, were orange Lodge, waved red hand of ulster flags were often celebrating the jacobites fighting the English.
I mentioned King Billy to Dutch friends when I was trying to explain the division of catholic and protestants. Their response was shock "Our King William, from Holland, he was involved in Ireland? We didn't know. AND PEOPLE STILL CELEBRATE A WAR HE LEAD NOW?"
This is the first time I've heard the story of what happened and it makes the division and hatred sound so stupid.
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What have a football team got to do with this? You sound like a Celtic fan...lol
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I'm recommending this video all around. Well done mr. Green!
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Another great video, thank you for sharing.
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I Didn't know about that battle. Thanks so much!
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You should come to northern Ireland then every year the protestant community to this day try to march up and down Catholic streets singing victory songs and playing flutes and banging drums and chsntting hate fulfilled anti Catholic songs....the only way to explain it is the KKK walking up and down the streets of harlem.and is still going on today.
Brilliant as always, im going up to NI to celebrate the twelth and to remember these battles this year 🇬🇧
Aren't you brave?
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And not before time
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TICK TOCK the lease is running out as if the English want the IRISH ☘️ 🇮🇪. I’m sorry & ASHAMED that the Scottish kissed English A$$ & STOLE your land you won’t find my SURNAME among the TRAITOR /S /SETTLERS. Thank’s to my Irish ☘️ mammy I hold an Irish ☘️ passport. RIP MAMMY I will see 32 countries & think of you .
I would like to see more of the jacobites. Don't know if you have enough supporters in North America but the French and Indian war is very interesting. Would like to see more of those British units in America.
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Well done Chris! Since you asked fans what we'd like to see, I'll be hones but I've never seen many documentaries about the Mediterranean during the Napoleonic Wars outside the battle of the Nile. There's my native Malta which featured in a campaign 1798-1800 and then an Italian campaign (with, I believe, a regiment of Maltese troops seeing action at Capri in 1807). Malta also featured somewhat importantly as a "supermarket" for British goods during the Continental Blockade; and perhaps the huge amount of activity and shipping is what brought us the final (and terrible) plague outbreak in 1813-14.
I'm also really interested in WW1 and the British contribution especially to the Hundred Days, but also the lesser-known Palestine, Mesopotamian, East African and Western Desert theatres.
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Well once again, you wow me so much as always with a history lesson I had absolutely no clue as to the existence of until you announced it as today's update, Chris old bean, and that includes all the other historical facts you mentioned in this one also, including that of the Glorious Revolution, which was the reason the Catholic devotee James II was overthrown in the first place. Seriously, just HOW d'ya keep this up every time, huh, always furthering your well deserved status as a UA-cam superstar when it comes to delivering some of the undeniably best ever IMO British military history, cos every time you announce what's to come you deliver something my school history lessons never covered, hence I've had to rely on you and of course online reading itself to deliver the incredible facts about whatever into my head, hahaha.
So, what's next then from ya, I wonder? Could we at last FINALLY be a step closer to at last having the Battle of Sedgemoor in a video coverage, considering that it was cos of James II's Catholic devotion in a Protestant England that his own nephew the Duke of Monmouth attempted to lead a rebellion against him in 1685, but which all came to a head, and disaster for Monmouth, at the Battle of Sedgemoor, and as well as James himself Colonel Percy Kirke was another big significant figure of the Monmouth Rebellion, certainly during the aftermath of the Battle of Sedgemoor in particular with him, Kirke that is. But whatever ya do, we'll always be awaiting ya to astound and surprise us all, Chris old bean, and certainly the Jacobites, again a topic I'm practically lacking ANY knowledge of myself personally, would be a topic to cover indeed, yes, siree
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Another great video Chris! Would love to see you cover the American Revolution from the British perspective.
Yes, this is on the cards, especially as we are approaching the 25th anniversay
Good analysis of the battle & its consequences
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Hello Chris, Great video as always. How telling the story of Hassan's Dervish insurgency into British Somaliland in 1920?
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Love this. Thank you very much
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There are factions on both sides that benefit from keeping the hatred alive. Both governments are very happy to keep it going too especially since brexit. Divide and conquer.
The Battle of the Boyne museum near Drogheda here in the south is a really great place to visit. I have met more than a few Protestants, English and even a Dutch couple walking the grounds and their reason for being there is always for historical interest. Never politics.
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Drogheda is quite distanced from the Troubles to be able to leave politics out of it.
"It was worn at Derry, Aughrim, Enniskillen and the Boyne"
Some of my distant ancestors were in the north of Ireland before moving to what became Scotland. Best information was they were Danish Vikings.
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Excellent video and very well presented 👍
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Very well explained, well done.
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Happy Battle of the Boyne for tomorrow 12th July.
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The Battle in the modern calendar was 11 July
Chris, My historical knowledge of the Pike and Shot period is woefully thin. My personal family history was already firmly in America by this time. A member of my family has participated in every American conflict since (for us) Queen Anne's war. Anything dealing with Randolph Churchill would be wonderful.
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Thanks, FANTASTIC AGAIN.🙏🇬🇧
GOD BLESS FELLA🥇😇🎬
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There is very little information on the internet about the East Africa campaign during the second world war. So many colonial troops from all over the empire contrbuted to the British victory over the Italins.
It would be great if you would do a few episodes about this neglected campaign. I enjoy all your work very much well done.
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Fascinating!!!
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Very interesting as usual 🎉🎉🎉
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Revolution House the old Cock & Pynot alehouse where the Glorious Revolution was hatched, is only a few minutes walk from where I live in Chesterfield Uk . A very interesting presentation as per 🙂👍
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When Protestants carried out a coup against the rightful King of England Scotland Wales and Ireland, with the help of a Dutch king , who after their victory, oppressed the Catholics, under the penal laws, reducing Catholics to all but slaves , who had the vast majority of their lands taken over by a Protestant ruling class , which the majority of Catholics that to pay rents to and were not allowed to practice their faith, and has to pay a tax the Protestant church of Ireland, Priests were hunted down, that is why there are mass rocks all over Ireland, the Protestants broke the treaty of Limerick, and oppressed the Catholic majority and reduced them to poverty, who only got back their freedom after the war of independence against the British Black and tans and auxiliaries , who murdered civilians burnd down creameries and farm houses and a big part of Cork City , murded elected Mayors all between 1919 1921 . For the majority Catholics of Ireland there was no glorious revolution only pure tyranny after the battle of the Boyne .
Thanks for presenting your point of view. Although a lot of the lands had already been confiscated by Cromwell hadn't they? Also, William was not a Dutch king, he was the Stadtholder as I said in my video.
@@TheHistoryChap yes Cromwell did take huge amounts of lands from the Catholic land owners smashed alters burnt churches killed priests , took almost all of what was left of lands owned by the Catholic church, and Irish land owners and paid off his soldiers with stolen Catholic lands , the saying at the time was , To hell or to Connaught, ya I did know he William or Billy was not a Dutch king , but , he in all regards was a king , he is of the house of Orange , which is the royal family of today, the point I am making is the war waged against the Catholic Irish was a war of extermation and total suppression driven by pure hate as was Cromwell's war against the Catholic Irish, and Queen Elizabeth the first also laid waste to huge parts of Ireland carrying out a war of pure hate and extermation of the free Catholic Irish chiefs and old Norman Lords , by the way I love your videos, and I do not lay the blame of what happened in the past to any English Welsh Scottish or Unionists person living today , I in fact like British people, but not the ruling class , ,some of my ancestors were planted into Ireland after the Munster rebellions against Elizabeth the first, , please do a video on the Munster rebellions 👍and the defeat of the Fitzgeralds of Munster, of who's castles can still be seen to this day eg Adare co Limerick
@@TheHistoryChap sorry if what I said comes across as harsh, but there is no sugar coating it , if you ever come to Ireland I would love to show you around all the ruins of Castles Churches and monasteries from all the wars , God bless and take care
Also do a video on the French Revolution what caused it and why its history was whitewashed I heard from a video how the apron people reved up the people against the bible they wanted to crush Christianity and they the evil ones beheaded thousands of Priests in France 🇫🇷 this went on for 10 years they made sure that one was not in history books he said now if you look at people like Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Moa they all did the same evil making wars etc against God and his people there are similarities with these people the great military machine himself yes I believe there are satans children and God's people like the bible says wheat and the tares growing together. thanks
Thanks for posting. The glorious revolution was really a blatant userpation. One small correction if l may. The name Tyrconnell isn't pronounced Tie connell, it is pronounced Teer connell, probably from the Gaelic "Tír" meaning land (as in "Connell Land")
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Chris - I would highly recommend a visit to Londonderry it is a fabulous city in its own right and has a great history museum but I have been told the walking history tours are a must as well.
Have only been to Belfast, which was both a great city and an eye opener at the same time.
When your Derry make sure to call it Londonderry loudly and proudly in front of the locals...😂😂
Londonderry all day long 🇬🇧💪
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You should visit also...
@@johnsometimeswrong8742 I Iwill do in the future, I love the Ulster people 😊🇬🇧💪
Fascinating well done ✌
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Hi Chris. Will you be doing any vids on the ww1 German colonies campaigns?
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Excellent as usual 👌. Are the Emin Pasha and the battle of Um Diwaykarat on your list in the near future to wrap up the Sudan campaigns?
Yes, but not in the immediate future
Brilliant 😊
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Live and let live I say...native of Limavady now an adopted son of Birkenhead....my family have fought for the crown stretching back to the Regiment of foot ( O,Cahan) ,led by the Marquis of Montrose..and of course there is the Rebel branch of the family...I have a brother in law who used to play in an Orange Lodge band....I,m not bad on the Bhodran....😅😅😅
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@@TheHistoryChapslainte/cheers....go England tonight...from the birthplace of England....Wirral...Brunanburh/Bromborough to be precise...😅😅..E
Chris, as usual im not going to make any suggestions as to what subject i would like you to teach me about. I did manage to scrape an o level but didnt actually love the subject until my early forties when i ( occasionaly put jack higgins, wilbur smith and tom sharpe down and got back into non lit books) and then came u tube.
You pick the subject and i will always watch.
If you ever explained the role of the fleet air arm in korea then i would be personally very interested as my father flew fireflys of hms glory in that conflict.
I love reading your viewers comments as some of them are from folks with far more knowledge than me and i love it when they challenge you!
If you were my history teacher 45 years ago i believe i would have chosen history as an A level.... still contemplating taking an online history a level at the age of 60 because of you and drachinefel
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It not only shapes Ireland, but also America. A lot of WASPs still resent the Catholics, particularly the Irish; they're just blocked by the First Amendment.
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My graandfather and grandmother met in canada. They were both dr. Bernardo children
Maybe a show on that. I have done well. Musician, author. Stock broker. More achievements
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Wow that was great Chris. This part of British History has always confused me. I still say the last Great King was Alfred the Great!
James iv. Died fighting in tbe front rank of his men. Unlike queer English kings
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Recently I had a bit of an odd discussion with an Englishman on Facebook: he talked about the 'Dutch invasion'. I (as a Netherlander) said to him that I wasn't aware the Netherlands ever invaded England: my history book said (just like History Chap) that the English wanted Mary II to be queen and so they got her husband Willem III van Oranje as part of the deal. But he insisted that we invaded the place and 'put our guy on the throne'. I didn't know what to say. The only explanation I can think of why the guy would think of it that way if he is a staunch catholic...
@@Johnny-Thunder I'm from Glasgow mate every house including my own has a framed picture of William Prince of Orange crossing the boyne ,I cannot comment for Catholics 😂, my football team in glasgow the fans sings songs in praise of King William they have done for over 100 years,it goes from generation to generation, during ww1 the 36th Ulster division went over the top at the somme on July 1st wearing orange sashes .
@@leggie65 Well I am very much flattered :D Seeing as the Scots and English were helping the Netherlanders during our war of independence against Spain it is only right we did a favour in return.
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Mary was from the House of Stuart - A Scottish Family).
In Ireland and The Netherlands we refer to it as the Dutch conquest of England. Of course it is still illegal for the British monarch, or his spouse to be a Catholic.
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If the Dutch defeat England in the euros ,it will be celebrated as an English win over the irish
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Chris how about the battle of Shaiba and the siege at Kut in the Mesopotamian campaign in WW I?
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Wow, can you make a video on the battle of culloden, it a famous battle that made Bonnie prince Charles to be defeated
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Derry is the original name of the city, Derry is the Irish word for Oak, , just like co Kildare, meaning the church of the Oak, so nothing to do with London what so ever , London which is from Latin and the Romans called Londinium, and the Romans never came to Ireland and founded any towns , So Derry is the original name and what the majority of Irish people call it , and always did and always will ,
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What you're completely omitted from your narrative is that derry monastery was not on the ground where londonderry is now there has never been a town or city named derry
@@colhughes3892 the name of the area comes from the Irish word Derry, meaning Oak , because the area was 100% Irish people who spoke only Irish , as I said no Romans speaking Latin lived in or named the area,
lol zzzz a name of a city . Yet the Republic of Ireland is the most Anglo Norman part zzz . Today the Republic of Ireland remains under EU occupation via the papal crown . The real oppressor of Irish people who order the “ Protestant “ / evangelical Irish church of Patrick worked for to be crushed and forced the papacy upon the Irish people.
The hat trick of a Banner tour that spread over Easter, the Apprentice Boys and the Twelfth, such fun typified by the pilot of a C130 arriving in Aldergrove whose announcement was "welcome to Ulster please put your watch back 400 years".
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What about Cromwell's depredations in Ireland?
600,000 killed?
Some say he went mad toward the end of his life, and threrein lies the explanation.
What do you say?
Wasn’t aware that Cromwell went mad.
@@TheHistoryChap Neither am I, but an explanation may be in order. Madness is one such explanation, offered by some to account for the Pol Pot-like carnage Oliver is said to be responsible for; 600,000 or so gratutious deaths out the population of Eire at that time resembles a communist's deed, insofar as the percenatge slain of the total.
Okay. The following doesn't reflect my views and is best understood as my attempt to understand the why without considering the moral questions.
The only explanation that I've read that explains the conduct of the New Model Army in Ireland is the religious beliefs of the men involved.
As far as Old Noll was concerned, it was God who had aided the Parliamentarian cause and it was God who had granted them victory in the long and arduous wars in England and Scotland.
So they believed that God had granted them a great victory over their ungodly enemies and in doing so had delivered God's people from the suffering they'd endured at the hands of their enemies.
These enemies had then raised their banners in Ireland and restarted the conflict, which had already been decided by God in Parliament's favour.
As far as aims are concerned, It's comparable with Sherman's campaign which was aimed at bringing the American Civil War to a conclusion.
For context you could do no better than read Sherman's own quotes on war.
So the brutal conquest was the method by which the Godly chastised the people they believed had gone again God's will by fighting on against those he had ordained as the victors.
See also, 'The religious context of the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland' by Professor John Morrill.
It may be a little biased to say that Protestant nobles feared Catholic tyranny. It would probably be more fair and accurate to say they feared Catholic retaliation, and perhaps the loss of preferential treatment they had enjoyed under a Protestant monarchy. After all, both sides were guilty of religious repression/discrimination at some point.
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Excellent well balanced coverage of the subject. That makes a change so thank you
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@@TheHistoryChap I grew up in Belfast, I was one of those "string boys" you see in the Orange Order parades holding the string to the bannor. I obviously was very well aware of the Williamite Wars in Ireland and how it shaped what would become The United Kingdom. The bit you did really well was to put this battle into context as to how the Crown would have continued with absolute rule and destablised the country with the death of every Monrach that is even being forgotten in the oral history tradition in my community.
Could the French st Barthomlew day be explained
I'd be interested in a video on Operation Mana, the RAF airlift to Holland in 1945.
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It's a very interesting campaign. Also a civil war I think within Ireland itself although it's themes are not linked to those of the English Civil War. And yet they appear similar to me.
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Excellent presentation of a difficult history. Helps in the present to better understand sectarianism, especially the origins.
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Would love to hear about the fraser/Frazer clans of Scotland
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Hatred and bigotry, that's why they still celebrate it
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@@Finlay007 it's horrible that it still exists
@@elflakeador09 it always will. Humans I'm afraid. No hope for us.
There is no bigotry or hatred involved ....you should get your facts correct before posting such bigoted hatred.
@@duncanmackenzie2410 what??? Are you for real?? The orange order was founded out of hatred for Catholics
The battle of the boyne did not end the williamite wars in Ireland . There were several significant battles after that and William of orange never took limerick and had to make a treaty to get sarsfield out of the place. Sarsfield wanted out for His own reasons. The naval battle of the downs is more significant than the boyne. The protestants then proceeded to break the treaty of limerick and introduced the penal laws.
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England has always been threatened by instability in Ireland and Scotland
When it comes to Irish history. An HONEST historian will acknowledge NONE have the high moral ground . History has a way of making hypocrisy of both Irish families .
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It's a great story...thank you..maybe back to the days of King Arthur ...but whatever...I'm learning
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Omitted that the Edict of Nantes under Louis being revoked,led to slaughtering French Protestant Huegenots.
Thus they fled for their lives.
I thought I had mentioned it.
😮Michael Tsarion, a Northern Irish person with Indian heritage has an entirely different perspective on all this.
Probably would .
3 of my ancestors were apprentice boys that helped. Close the gates in Londonderry. Their descendants still live in Londonderry right beside one of the gates
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If something happens to NF, JOB should be worried.
The smugness will evaporate overnight.
He'll be hated so much, he'll have to do a Batley teacher.
Please do a history of the Malayan emergency!
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Technically isn't it England, Scotland and Wales?
Great video btw.
No, technically Wales was considered part of the English crown.