Are These Legendary Villains Actually Victims? (Game Of Thrones, The Shining, Jaws)
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- We explore whether these iconic bad guys should be considered villains or victims. Who's your favorite villain?
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Norman Bates - "Psycho"
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Gollum - "The Lord of the Rings"
• Lord of the Rings: The...
Miranda Priestly - "The Devil Wears Prada"
• Miranda Priestly being...
Jaws - "Jaws"
• Jaws (1975) - You're G...
Jack Torrance - "The Shining"
• The Shining (1980) - H...
Cersei - Game of Thrones
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We Decide If These Iconic Bad Guys Are Villains Or Victims | Part 2
0:00 Intro
0:31 Norman Bates - "Psycho"
2:41 Te Ka - "Moana"
4:58 Regina George - "Mean Girls"
7:34 Gollum - "The Lord of the Rings"
9:31 Miranda Priestly - "The Devil Wears Prada"
12:21 Jaws - "Jaws"
14:41 Jack Torrance - "The Shining"
17:02 Cersei - Game of Thrones
18:58 Davy Jones - "Pirates of the Caribbean"
21:44 Fletcher "Whiplash"
23:53 Outro - Розваги
I’m sorry, you are not going to explain away Cersei Lannister’s absolute villainy! Not happening.
I agree she does nothing but despicable things. She blames her brother for killing his mom in childbirth. That was not in his control and so she hates Tirian for that, And treats him like dirt. On top of everything else she has an incestual relationship with her other brother. She was a totally horrible person.
I will die on this hill; Jack Torrence was already problematic long before he ever took the Overlook job. If you've read the book, he broke Danny's arm while drunk. TOTAL villain. The Overlook just took what was already there and added extra.
I agree. He was always bad the hotel just amplified it
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Even only seeing the movie I am with you on this. (Only reason I haven't listened to the book I don't like the narrator I found)
Genuinely the real victim in Shining was poor Shirley Duvall. Stanley Kubrick psychologically tortured that woman so much she quit Hollywood and disappeared basically.
*Shelley
Yeaahh they were really cruel to her >>
The real villain in Jaws is the mayor who doesn't close the beach down after the first death.
Honestly the real Villian in jaws is the Mayor who didn’t close the beach
Calling Regina a victim is the dumbest logic lmfao
Agreed. Hahaha but villain still won though 😅😅
They were clearly trolling and they voted victim for pretty much everyone
She is a victim.
If you think about it, she’s a victim to poor parenting. Her “cool” mom failed to raised her correctly.
Lmfao
I mean, you need to remember her age. She was a kid, she had a spineless dad, and an overly sexual mom. She was a victim of poor parenting.
In terms of psychological karma, Regina got off easy.
Damn, they could bring up Dahmer & Haley & Jay would say "victim" lmao
Plankton was the true victim of this episode because he wasn't mentioned at all. He was even on the episode's thumbnail picture
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Ikr? I was thinking the same
And on the chapters it says Plankton
Haley: "I can justify anything"
2 seconds later..."she sleeps with her brother" ... Haley: "Ah, hell no!"
Nick defending Miranda, is just gold 🤣
REGINA GEORGE IS THE ULTIMATE HIGH SCHOOL VILLAIN
The real villian in Jaws was the mayor. Dude should have closed the beach when the policeman said so. Made no sense. So many people would have still been alive.
Anyone who watches game of thrones will know damn well Cersei is a villain even off this clip saying she’s a victim is crazy….him explaining it’s for her family is bull she did it for herself she didn’t care what happened to her kids…..even Regina and gollum aren’t victims just shows how Americans choose to victimize people
Part 3
1. Dolores Umbridge ( Harry Potter )
2. Michael Myers ( Halloween )
3. Hannibal Lecter ( The Silence of Lambs )
4. Count Dracula ( Bram Stoker’s Dracula )
5. Magneto ( X-Men )
6. Catherine Tramell ( Basic Instinct )
7. Sauron ( Lord of The Rings )
8. Harley Quinn ( Suicide Squad )
9. Jennifer Check ( Jennifer’s Body )
10. Marquis Vincent de Grammont ( John Wick )
11. Azula ( Avatar )
12. Aizen Sousuke ( Bleach )
13. Evelyn Denvers ( The Incredibles II )
great list 🤌
magneto is a victim 100%
After that psycho breakdown I would never wanna be alone with jay and Haley
Fax Norman Bates is a villain who is a psychopath serial killer
I wanted to reach through my phone and slap the dog shit outta dani, Jay and Haley for victimizing Cersei
Any person that would consider Regina George the victim is a nasty, nasty mean girl (guy) themselves. Kady aside, the evil toward Janice is unforgivable.
7:34 Gollum is such an effective character that when someone does an impression of him, everyone around immediately knows who it is!
Jaws was a villain in Jaws 3D. That shark traveled across the ocean to finish off the Brody family on vacay😂
For the Devil Wears Prada, she may be a bit of a b, but that doesn’t make her a villain.That being said, she’s not a victim either.
Nicholas and Izzy is the duo i need in life
The boyfriend in the Devil Wears Prada is the true villain
Facts
Fletcher is 100% a villain. What they didn't say that a past student of his committed suicide because of the trauma he received from fletcher
They literally asked at the end of mean girls "Who here has been bullied by Regina George and EVERYBODY raised their hands 😂 even the teachers and principal!!! 😅😅 Yeah victim where?? 🤷🏾♂️😭
I mean if u think of the way she was raised as a spoiled brat then in some way it can be justified as victim
@@cheydobbs2554no it can’t
No matter what their take, it was awesome seeing these reactors! Martine and Dani are always fun together. I love the Nick and Izzy vibe, especially at 1:38! 😂😂😂
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Hailey is so wrong. Read the book. The shining is actually the name given to the psychic power that Danny possesses. Jack Torrance already had form before arriving at the Overlook and he was susceptible to the supernatural powers because of it. Villain!
Yeah, for such a "huge fan" she doesn't seem to actually understand the movie.
Te ka was obviously a victim
I personally think Janis is secretly the villain cause she put Catie up to posing like the mean girls which then turned Catie into the villian
All the things that Regina does to everyone around her since forever have been way before Cady come to school. So I really believe she was a villain that just was played out.
@@ozuitsberna true
Janice was bullied for years simply for being Lebanese and not in fact a lesbian lol
Both Janis and Regina are means girls. In very different ways
“Gaslight, Gatekeeper, GIRLBOSS” put that on a shirt ! 😂
In the Shining, Kubrick was the villain and Shelley Duvall was the victim
also for regina they showed a scene where she was done dirty by cady but she was manipulating cady from the start of the movie so she's a villain
If you’re talking in THAT MOMENT victim yes. But nah Regina George was a villain all the way through, she was a bully
The villain in Jaws is clearly the Mayor lol
Saying Gollum gives off "Dobby vibes" is insane. Absolutely nothing alike 🙃🤦🏽♂️
Quick trivia: in The Shining they had to use a real door because Jack Nicholson used to be a volunteer fire fighter (I’m pretty sure it was this) and was breaking through the prop doors too quickly 😊
It says Plankton - "Spongebob"
Never watched GOT but Sersei is a villain and was a villain from DAY 1
The fact they haven't seen moana yet is a crime against humanity there is no excuse for not seeing one of the best modern disney movies. Its like skipping zootopia.
Haley and Dani, you both NEED to watch Game of Thrones!!! You're going to be HOOOOOKED!!
Nicholas' monologue on Miranda Priestly - take a bow, good man!
I agree with Jared about Gollum. Smeagol-victim, Gollum-villain. It's really a classic, extreme case of letting the intrusive thoughts win.
Having read the book, the Overlook is possessing Jack love the movie, but Jack is a victim
MY MAN PLANKTON IS NOT HERE
Okay, the big victim or villain question: Jason Voorhees
I say victim, because of his circumstance he was turned in to the monster we all know.
I saw Friday the 13th for the first time this last year (on Friday The 13th in October).
I would say that he is a victim for the first film.
Hayley and Jay "Ted Bundy was just really misunderstood!"
10:26 Nick explaining Miranda Priestley was everything I needed today 😂
Regina literally KNEW Katy liked Regina’s ex and went behind her back and took her chance to date him away from her by getting back with him and rubbing it in her face continuously and made Gretchen tell her an dumb and stupid and obviously untrue excuse
Not to mention the many things Gretchen told her Regina did to make her look bad after Gretchen relationship with Regina felt threatened after the candy cane scene
Don’t forget that back in middle school, she just abandoned Janis for her new boyfriend, & she was her best friend.
So true, but she was also just a kid. You need to remember her spineless dad, overly sexual mom, and her being seen as a sex object. She’s a victim of poor parenting.
That obviously doesn’t excuse what she said/did to others
WE NEED A PART 2!!!! I loved this!!
This is the 2nd one. They did one 4 months ago
Even Jay said that him and Haley are either really understanding or really toxic 😂
You guys should have a 3rd "ANTI-HERO" option. Some of these characters do the right thing in the end, they just have a different, less tasteful way of getting to that point.
They totally should include Anti-Hero. I feel like Fletcher falls into that category.
Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver is a great example of that.
No offense to those who were playing, but some of their choices were pretty questionable.
I need Nick to Narrate every villains back story lol
On Game Of Thrones, Cersi kills her sons wife, not future bride
*Whiplash guy screams at a student*
Blonde chic: "He's a villain you can't talk down to people like that"
*Jack Torrance abusing and trying to violently murder his wife and child*
Blonde chic: "He's such a victim, he's misunderstood!"
Lololol tf is literally going on with her
Also Kubrick purposely avoided the supernatural elements that were in the book, his whole point was that the evil being is not some random ghost-hotel, but the mental toxicity of Jack himself.
I mean, what the flip? Cersei Lannister a victim? The woman that BURNT her second son to death along with his fiancée and the Seven know how many people in the Great Sept? The same woman that would dance in the grave of her little brother just because he was born deformed?
The only reason she is not even more of a cartoon villain is because she doesn't have a Snidely Whiplash moustache. I mean, Tywin was a more nuanced character and the dude was a straight up monster.
...as a side note, it's funny that GoT fits so well into the grimdark space of stories from the trope and meta level. There's no real heroes, everyone is some flavor of asshole and the ones that fit into the paragon slot usually end up dying (we salute you Ned Stark).
Wait… in the book she destroy the sept while Tommin is in it?
The real villain in The Shining was Stanley Kubrick for terrorizing Shirley Duvall.
These were such good picks for the duos. Everyone was serving comedic gold.
"She's giving hangry." took me out. 😅 Saaaaaaaaaaame.
21:44 says Plankton - Spongebob 🤣
It's literally what i was waiting for 😭
Dani's impersonation of Meril Streep's face LOOL 10:02
There was no plankton.
I was so disappointed. They better make second one, with plankton included.
Why was Plankton on the thumbnail if he wasn't gonna be featured in the video?
yeah...🫤
Great reactions.....for a part 3 please try...
Tyler Durden - Fight Club
Professor Snape - Harry Potter
Spike - Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Regina Mills/Evil Queen - Once Upon A Time
Jason Vorhees - Friday The 13th
Killmonger - Black Panther
Martin Brenner - Stranger Things
Norman Osborn - Spiderman (Tobey)
Seifer - The Matrix
Walter White - Breaking Bad
Dexter - Dexter
Michael Che and Colin Jost Weekend Update show on Saturday Night Live....they write jokes for each other to read out news anchor style and i swear they will be the death of each other lol
Ben Linus - Lost
Michael Corleone - The Godfather
I'm sorry but anyone that says Smeagol is a villian doesn't understand LOTR or the power of the ring. Especially when Smeagol and Deagol found it.
Why does it say plankton in the video sections when that is very clearly not plankton?
Gollum 100% Victim. Hero even. When Frodo faltered at the end of his journey, It was Gollum that ultimately get the ring over the finish line into the lava (unwillingly but still). If not for Gollum, One Ring wouldn't be destroyed.
Agreed Izzy! Jaws is totally the victim XD
Where was Plankton?
Jared and Alexander were pretty funny together but Alex's entrepreneur comment about Davey Jones was hilarious! And of course it's nice to see Jay and Haley back. I wish some of the viewers would just let that girl be. If it really matters that much in the grand scheme of things how she lives her life, maybe you should look at your own life.
Jay and Haley being so determined to put a spin on a thing to reach their predetermined answer is just frustrating to watch, as I'm trying for a little escapism here and they're engaging in the bs behaviors of so much of the population that I'm trying to escape for a little bit 😂
The girl saying Regina is a victim gives me she was that girl in high school.. sorry not sorry…
Jaws is a monster villain he didnt act like a true ahark acted more like a serial killer. Plus you have to remember this came out in the 70s. When there was really not that much information on white sharks or great white sharks. Most shark attacks are not even from great white sharks. They're from tiger sharks are bull sharks
I was checking the comments to say the same thing. It was not an issue of Jaws attacking in his home habitat, he proactively goes in to hunt his victims, people. But, there is a lot of extra sympathy going on in this video, and the last one, so it is what it is.
These episodes and the choices made are wild. Absolutely wild.
Every time I see that Shining scene all I think of is Homer going "No TV and no beer makes Homer go something something" Go crazy? "Don't mind if I do Marge! Don't mind if I do!"
why in the last one said Plankton? but is not Plankton!!!
Regina George & Victim don’t belong in the same sentence 💀
7:54 Jay, the audacity of comparing poor Dobby to this abomination that is Gollum 😂
He's either trolling or his mind is completely fked up 😂
@@chamathnadeeshan4008 mind is fucked up
the fact they said regina was a victim rubs me the wrong way cause whattttt???
Jones is a victim who became a villain
Plankton in the thumbnail... Plankton in the description... Plankton in the chapters/scroll bar... Plankton in the actual video???
Honestly....Janice was kind of the villain of Mean Girls. She used Cady to get to Regina and then got mad when Cady became Regina. If she didn't encourage Cady to join them, Cady never would have done the things she did. She should of just been content with Cady joining her and Damien's friend group instead of using her to take Regina down.
Gollum is a villain. He killed Déagol, who was his cousin, because he wanted the ring for his birthday present but Déagol said no. Sméagol had barely seen the ring before murdering his cousin
Exactly. Of all the other people who the ring tempted, Gollum was the only one to jump straight to murdering for it.
In the case of Jack Torrance, he was a villain before he arrived and the Hotel took advantage of that. With his dry drunks. He walked in, sat down and took the ghost drink.
People taking Jay and Haley seriously are just sooo funny 😂😂 cause these two didn’t not taking the game THIS seriously at all😂😂 yall they playin relaxxx
Not while they smilin’ that damn hard
Listen, these guys are talking about how Bruce from Jaws is a victim and how the humans are the problem, when Bruce is literally the one who snuck into there lake, and started killing viciously, I get that is his natural instinct but it doesn’t make what he does not bad
Um... lake? You mean the ocean that is it's home? And this is while they literally show the humans chumming the water, a practice that is banned most places BECAUSE it induces frenzy?
Mkay.
I think villany or heroism demands actions and intentions. The shark was eating people, for being hungry or to protect his territory. An antagonist doesn't need to be evil and differs from sociopathic people being mean or selfish.
Sméagol is a victim; Gollum is a villain.
Izzi is always looking Gorgeous 💜💜💜💜
No way bro tried to paint Cersei freaking Lannister as a victim
regina is definitely not a victim
0:59 Psycho (1960) is such a great film, it's a must watch!
Two videos in one day with the wonderful, amazing, caring, smart,and gorgeous princess Izzy let's go
I think nick was mistaking being demanding with being a harasser. Miranda and Fletcher are not just demanding, they cross the line, they go to phyisical aggression, unpaid overtime, etc. Thats is way beyond being just a demand boss / teacher. In no world it's ok to hit people in the face to teach them tempo.
We need a part 3!
Janet Leigh from Psycho was Jamie Lee Curtis mother
Regina is a heartless sociopath with absolutely zero redeeming qualities, and nothing to feel sympathy for. She is so awful I genuinely cannot watch the movie because of her. She is not a victim in any way because everything bad that happens to her is 100% deserved
i don't think she's heartless or has 0 redeeming qualities but i agree she absolutely is not a victim at all
I think all those attributes that you just pointed out is caused by her “cool mom” not raising her correctly as a child, so I think she’s a victim🤷♂️
@@santimaximoff4532 nah I disagree. victimization can lead to becoming a villain, but it doesn't negate the actions committed that would label someone a villain.
personally i think she’s both. She is a villain yes; a narcissistic mean girl who prioritizes herself all the time. But she is also a product of poor parenting and society’s morbid tendency to pit women against each other. You can be both.
Did you know Jaws was based off a very real series of shark attacks that happened in the waters of New Jersey. The big difference between the two is that in real life the shark that really carried out the attacks was a bull shark not a great white.
I would say Gollum is more Creature than Dobby.
18:58 That is a really fascinating back story about Davy Jones on the film!
Sersei is victim wow 😂
WHY is Scar from The Lion King NOT in this list??? Perhaps the biggest case of a portrayed villain being the victim.
Jay and Haley would victimize him knowing that’s not true at all
Where Plankton tho?
I am happy I wasn’t the only confused person wondering where Plankton was.