@@Kamkean I swear man Warframe players are just thick headed. Ignore obvious and blatant lore for their head cannon. "The Sacrifice quest retconned warframes" HOW DID IT? WARFRAMES WERE ALWAYS PEOPLE!!
"The Tenno chose not the loot" Alad was like an old pal of ours at that point compared to the then newly repurposed and still largely unknown Nef Anyo, and he did offer sweet loot: the Karak Wraith. To many old veterans, the Karak was their second or third primary to ever build so it held some sentimental value over the Dera Vandal
1:26 It's canon that Parvos Granum and the founding Corpus were lower class Orokin farmers and laborers before Granum founded an enclave city that became the Corpus faction, btw
I made a post in the warframe subreddit about the problems I see with the new player experience, and ways I can see to remove or alleviate the issues. One problem I found is that most quests before Natah are just side content. It takes about halfway through the starchart to get to the first big and important story quest. Another issue is that there is no justification to do any assassination missions outside of transmissions provided in that mission. Both problems could be solved by adding some additional lotus/boss transmissions into starchart missions the first time they are cleared. Instead of "there is a large platoon of grineer marines stationed here. Leave no one standing", say that sargas ruk or lech kril will be severely impacted by the loss of those troops.
@@HarrowedDweeb Warframe's gameplay is solid enough to hold players, but eventually players will ask what the point of it is. While it's an incredibly flawed game, Skyrim gives you an action filled intro, then sets you loose in the world. It then gives you the overarching threat of "someone should really do something about those dragons". Most good games will do something similar. Warframe does this in a few quests like Natah setting up what the sentients are, second dream setting up that they hate us and stalker is working with them. The war within sets up the void powers, kuva, continuity and grineer queens. Chains of Harrow through to prelude to war sets up Ballas and a sentient invasion, and new war pays it all off as well as giving us narmer, archons, and pazuul. What all of those quests have in common is that they are very far into the game and someone playing for the first time will likely not play that far.
@@thatoneguywhoknittedthejim2912 and that’s a problem why? People bounce off of things. I’d give a finger to let my friend experience the joy of the souls series. Hes too easily upset, won’t do it. Doesn’t mean dark souls is bad. Doesnt mean It’s hostile to new players. It’s a kind of game that aims to confuse you. Warframe convinced me it was p2w when I started. I think the only problem with the new player experience is that you don’t actually know what does what and figuring it out is a waste of time compared to just looking stuff up. Warframe is a game that you can make incredible amounts of progress in in a singular day, if you don’t know the point of building your account there’s no reason to play. It’s a video game bro. Skyrim is good for new players because it never, never not even once, asks you to properly engage with its systems
I searched for "I am pleased with your performance", as I loved the voice acting in Warframe. And I stumble onto this masterpiece. You sir, have done outstanding work. I would love to see more of this content in the future.
sometimes i wish DE would add a "secret room" to a "rare jupiter tile" where you can actually go through vents to physically meet Alad V perhaps at a console with other corpus. And make it a "lore thing" as no enemies will come in after you and you can't kill anyone in that room. And your able to handshake with Alad V. Don't know if there's a way to have a subtle way of communicating to Alad V about how we don't like how he dissected Valkyr, but i suppose that would be up to DE. Also makes me wonder if the Tenno had decided to see Alad V as a "father figure."
I honestly think it fits in alads character with the new war. Hes a survivor and is willing to do everything to do so. the fleet we saw wasn't alad's it was the corpus fleet as a whole and alad wanted to use his directorial override to save his own ass knowing full well what the ropa alone did to his forces.
I think the implication of Alad's supposed status as Orokin is because he underwent continuity (permanent tranferrance as described in the war within by Teshin) and is now in the guise of a mortal man in the Corpus. I also think its worth noting that the Corpus were a part of the Orokin empire in the sense that they were contracted and worked with them, often it seems under duress, but that does not mean they themselves are or are considered Orokin. Orokin are a class, the most upper class in the human sphere of influence, and the Corpus sit outside of that class.
I think the order of events are wrong. I think it was Natah disguised as Regus he made the deal with. And that this deal happened during or after the Sacrifice quest. So long after he was cured. As he said in his fragments, he thought the Sentient technology Regus had could win him back a place on the board. And yeah I also wasn't happy with him being a coward against during the New War. But you can also get why. They were losing the battle. And Alad knows how powerful the Sentients were so he probably knew that submission was the only way of survival. And I don't know to what point he was truly freed of his deal as most we did was to kill the enforcer of his deal. And maybe he has his own agenda within Narmer as we can see experimentation happening at the gas city during the Nira archon hunt. And yes a real shame that we didn't get more Ropalolysts and other larger Sentients during the New War.
I don't think we were ever supposed to get more ropalolysts. The fight dialogue clearly says the ropalolyst is too ancient and outdated given the weakness to the void, and that its sacrifice in the fight would allow the sentiments to make better amalgams.
Your humor, and the well written and flowing explanation of the story pair amazingly with your accent! It feels like listening to a bedtime story from a veteran soldier. Love the video dude!
It’s so funny that we can blame a large majority of all major events in the games lore on like 5 characters Anything happen that involved corpus vs grineer? Blame alad or vay hek. Anything orokin related? Probably Ballas who caused it to go wrong. Anything void related? You best bet it’s either gonna be albrecht or wally himself.
here's the part of the Gradivus Dilemma DE won't tell you: Warbros. the Warbros clan with all their might completely crushed all Corpus forces, earning favor with Sargus Ruk
I played Warframe on and off for the best part of the decade and I knew next to nothing of what you put in your video. DE cornered themselves multiple times when writing Warframe story and lore, and this is one of the best examples of it. This video was a brilliant lore dump, thank you so much for all of it
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I haven't played since about the release of the open world where everyone lifts together so for me he he will always be Salad Five, the toilet seat collar man.
doesn't alad v call us betrayers the entire time we do anything with him? on top of that most of the experiences we have with him is him trying to save his own ass. there is no complete redemtion of that character. we keep him around because is funny villain that shoots himself in the foot, and he is a letter away from being called salad v. also like someone has said. i do believe a few events order was fumbled how they actual were to happen. since anything to do with sentients happen much much later after alad v infection and cure. because how could the ropaloyst enforce the deal with alad v if he was in the midst of his infection arc? sounds like llyk was trying too hard to make alad v a redeption character that the de failed at making. alad v is not and will not be a redeption character.
Maan, Alad V is such a really a cool guy. The main problem is that he's a crazy brained madman who wants to make new life by killing tennos, he really deserves better :'v
true so true I legit sat in my ship one day putting it together the part when we get to lotus becoming natah the flow gets wacky as hell just recently with the void lore is it seeming to flow To me the new war being so long would of been better as three-story quest and it will had felt like it matter more. It wasn't hard at all except parts where they nerfed you be forcing other characters u had to play defeating whole necro grind gatekeeping it for others
A quick note, an orokin elite is what you are referring to at the start, but the term "orokin" is simply a term for human as a whole. (At least from what ive heard). So when Hunhow calls alad an orokin, he simply is calling him human to differ himself and Natah (sentients) from the humans. Beyond that, amazing video!
@@plaguedoctor5145 I'm a lore nerd, I love warframe. But so many people in the community literally act like the game contradicts itself which it really doesn't. The people who say that orokin is a general term for humanity also probably thought The Sacrifice quest retconned how warframes were made, even though they were always humans turned with a modified infestation strain but they didnt clearly state that before. This goes for anyone here not you now, but find me ONE piece of lore that says orokin is a blanket term and not reserved for the ruling class, or that corpus are orokin. I will wait lmao
@@NotMyRealName69 upon reading the wiki, it refers to the society as Orokin not only the higher class. It even goes out of it's way to distinguish "high-ranking orokin" then describing what I called the orokin elites. Another not is it refers to "orokin civilisation" just as we would refer to "human civilisation" not "upperclass" or "noble" etc. Even on the forums, there was people arguing either way
@@plaguedoctor5145 in universe lore clearly makes a difference between orokin and their slaves. It's called the orokin empire because they were the rulers. Orokin was a (ruling)caste of humans not the name for humans. Give me one link to something that says otherwise from the game or official source not people arguing for it on a wiki forum.
I think its very in character for Alad V to actually be a Orokin but did a continuity into a Corpus body like the rat fleeing a sinking ship he is lol
Yep, he’s more of a wuss than ballas
Yep. Would even explain why he is so intelligent about warframes and infested and wanted to learn more about the ropalyst.
think you’re right since the stalker acolytes call Alad V an Orokin
@@Kamkean I swear man Warframe players are just thick headed. Ignore obvious and blatant lore for their head cannon. "The Sacrifice quest retconned warframes" HOW DID IT? WARFRAMES WERE ALWAYS PEOPLE!!
@@KamkeanThey call him that because the corpus were part of the Orokin empire, but they are not “true” Orokin simply a lower caste of workers.
"The Tenno chose not the loot"
Alad was like an old pal of ours at that point compared to the then newly repurposed and still largely unknown Nef Anyo, and he did offer sweet loot: the Karak Wraith. To many old veterans, the Karak was their second or third primary to ever build so it held some sentimental value over the Dera Vandal
Warframe current story: "change of plans, ignore your original objective, leave nothing alive.
1:26 It's canon that Parvos Granum and the founding Corpus were lower class Orokin farmers and laborers before Granum founded an enclave city that became the Corpus faction, btw
Actually, the Acolytes also call Alan an Orokin.
i love Alan, he always brings the best snacks to work
Alad however....
I think hunhow calling alad v orokin is more like an alien calling you a human than thinking alad v was part of the empire
Look as warframe player who says "Nuh uh your wrong" to stuff devs say in game!
Or alad v performed continuity into a corpus body
I made a post in the warframe subreddit about the problems I see with the new player experience, and ways I can see to remove or alleviate the issues. One problem I found is that most quests before Natah are just side content. It takes about halfway through the starchart to get to the first big and important story quest.
Another issue is that there is no justification to do any assassination missions outside of transmissions provided in that mission.
Both problems could be solved by adding some additional lotus/boss transmissions into starchart missions the first time they are cleared. Instead of "there is a large platoon of grineer marines stationed here. Leave no one standing", say that sargas ruk or lech kril will be severely impacted by the loss of those troops.
Bro, the game is side content punctuated by awesome sci fi space opera, the story isn’t all of it
@@HarrowedDweeb Warframe's gameplay is solid enough to hold players, but eventually players will ask what the point of it is. While it's an incredibly flawed game, Skyrim gives you an action filled intro, then sets you loose in the world. It then gives you the overarching threat of "someone should really do something about those dragons". Most good games will do something similar.
Warframe does this in a few quests like Natah setting up what the sentients are, second dream setting up that they hate us and stalker is working with them. The war within sets up the void powers, kuva, continuity and grineer queens. Chains of Harrow through to prelude to war sets up Ballas and a sentient invasion, and new war pays it all off as well as giving us narmer, archons, and pazuul.
What all of those quests have in common is that they are very far into the game and someone playing for the first time will likely not play that far.
@@thatoneguywhoknittedthejim2912 and that’s a problem why? People bounce off of things. I’d give a finger to let my friend experience the joy of the souls series. Hes too easily upset, won’t do it. Doesn’t mean dark souls is bad. Doesnt mean It’s hostile to new players. It’s a kind of game that aims to confuse you. Warframe convinced me it was p2w when I started. I think the only problem with the new player experience is that you don’t actually know what does what and figuring it out is a waste of time compared to just looking stuff up.
Warframe is a game that you can make incredible amounts of progress in in a singular day, if you don’t know the point of building your account there’s no reason to play. It’s a video game bro. Skyrim is good for new players because it never, never not even once, asks you to properly engage with its systems
I searched for "I am pleased with your performance", as I loved the voice acting in Warframe. And I stumble onto this masterpiece.
You sir, have done outstanding work. I would love to see more of this content in the future.
sometimes i wish DE would add a "secret room" to a "rare jupiter tile" where you can actually go through vents to physically meet Alad V perhaps at a console with other corpus. And make it a "lore thing" as no enemies will come in after you and you can't kill anyone in that room. And your able to handshake with Alad V.
Don't know if there's a way to have a subtle way of communicating to Alad V about how we don't like how he dissected Valkyr, but i suppose that would be up to DE.
Also makes me wonder if the Tenno had decided to see Alad V as a "father figure."
I don’t see Ballas as my step father and I sure don’t see Alad as my step uncle
I honestly think it fits in alads character with the new war. Hes a survivor and is willing to do everything to do so. the fleet we saw wasn't alad's it was the corpus fleet as a whole and alad wanted to use his directorial override to save his own ass knowing full well what the ropa alone did to his forces.
You forgot about the acolites hunting Alad V after the events of The Secound Dream
I think the implication of Alad's supposed status as Orokin is because he underwent continuity (permanent tranferrance as described in the war within by Teshin) and is now in the guise of a mortal man in the Corpus.
I also think its worth noting that the Corpus were a part of the Orokin empire in the sense that they were contracted and worked with them, often it seems under duress, but that does not mean they themselves are or are considered Orokin. Orokin are a class, the most upper class in the human sphere of influence, and the Corpus sit outside of that class.
Finally someone who doesn't think they know more than the devs ingame statements lol God bless you
Orokin are reptile people we were warned about.
There is no way that he called alad v(irgin) the coolest character in the game when john prodman exists
Alad V kidnapped a tenno for an experiment and expected not to get his ass beat up for it
Aw no mention of the time we saved Alad from the Acolytes?
>most overused character
*looks at captain vor*
Vor has a few things he is the catalyst for but Alad V is a walking crisis starting machine.
@@NotMyRealName69 alad v is lowkey a bug chaser
@@zoeblopaistinpannu5278 looking for the infinite xp/credits glitch but keeps finding game breaking ones
I think the order of events are wrong. I think it was Natah disguised as Regus he made the deal with. And that this deal happened during or after the Sacrifice quest. So long after he was cured. As he said in his fragments, he thought the Sentient technology Regus had could win him back a place on the board.
And yeah I also wasn't happy with him being a coward against during the New War. But you can also get why. They were losing the battle. And Alad knows how powerful the Sentients were so he probably knew that submission was the only way of survival. And I don't know to what point he was truly freed of his deal as most we did was to kill the enforcer of his deal. And maybe he has his own agenda within Narmer as we can see experimentation happening at the gas city during the Nira archon hunt.
And yes a real shame that we didn't get more Ropalolysts and other larger Sentients during the New War.
I don't think we were ever supposed to get more ropalolysts. The fight dialogue clearly says the ropalolyst is too ancient and outdated given the weakness to the void, and that its sacrifice in the fight would allow the sentiments to make better amalgams.
Your humor, and the well written and flowing explanation of the story pair amazingly with your accent! It feels like listening to a bedtime story from a veteran soldier. Love the video dude!
It’s so funny that we can blame a large majority of all major events in the games lore on like 5 characters
Anything happen that involved corpus vs grineer? Blame alad or vay hek.
Anything orokin related? Probably Ballas who caused it to go wrong.
Anything void related? You best bet it’s either gonna be albrecht or wally himself.
I find it funny you could no joke blame everything on either wally or ballas lmao
And MAYBE alberhct lol
Alad made a deal with the man in the wall, now everyone has made a deal with him
[ 15:58 ] Didn’t Lotus owe a favour to Alad after The Second Dream? So wouldn’t it just be her returning the favour?
Edit: nvm 😂
here's the part of the Gradivus Dilemma DE won't tell you: Warbros. the Warbros clan with all their might completely crushed all Corpus forces, earning favor with Sargus Ruk
You forgot about operation shadow debt
I played Warframe on and off for the best part of the decade and I knew next to nothing of what you put in your video. DE cornered themselves multiple times when writing Warframe story and lore, and this is one of the best examples of it. This video was a brilliant lore dump, thank you so much for all of it
DE is masters at developing feature bloat, so it's only logical that they do the same to lore.
Long story short:
Salad V: Warframe's Punching Bag.
alad v is n fact orokin-ish if nothing else, seeing as he calls us "betrayers"
who did we "betray"? the orokin
The grineer trooper saying "grakata" really got me
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I haven't played since about the release of the open world where everyone lifts together so for me he he will always be Salad Five, the toilet seat collar man.
This video really put a smile on my face, very funny and well done
doesn't alad v call us betrayers the entire time we do anything with him? on top of that most of the experiences we have with him is him trying to save his own ass. there is no complete redemtion of that character. we keep him around because is funny villain that shoots himself in the foot, and he is a letter away from being called salad v.
also like someone has said. i do believe a few events order was fumbled how they actual were to happen. since anything to do with sentients happen much much later after alad v infection and cure. because how could the ropaloyst enforce the deal with alad v if he was in the midst of his infection arc? sounds like llyk was trying too hard to make alad v a redeption character that the de failed at making. alad v is not and will not be a redeption character.
yeah bro to busy chasing knowledge to focus on his character also it be fk up for us to see him as a real ally after he legit make every issue worse
Okay but is Alad taking big hits at the Index? Didn't think so
Still just free neural sensors for me
I knew something was fishy about him but I didn't know what and as always he was just another boss for me but thx to you now I know
И снова здравствуй, мы пришли что-бы смотреть ВСЕ твои видосы на этом канале.
FINALLLLLLYYYY!!!!
Maan, Alad V is such a really a cool guy. The main problem is that he's a crazy brained madman who wants to make new life by killing tennos, he really deserves better :'v
Теперь я выучил английский
Хорош, но удивительно, что что здесь сказано больше чем на мейн аккаунте
man, this video is insanely funny. the attention to detail, the explaining of events, it's all so so so well done!
The animation is insane 😂
That start Jesus
Love the art lol, great video =)
Красава братан, продолжай
Ty, well explained
Посмотрел твое последнее видео....Хотел только спросить за РУ субтитры) Рад что они есть, буду смотреть дальше
I am willing to believe he is an orokin lmao
Let's goo comrade
Not only is most of his story not live in the game, the actual story that is in game is out of order.
true so true I legit sat in my ship one day putting it together the part when we get to lotus becoming natah the flow gets wacky as hell just recently with the void lore is it seeming to flow
To me the new war being so long would of been better as three-story quest and it will had felt like it matter more.
It wasn't hard at all except parts where they nerfed you be forcing other characters u had to play defeating whole necro grind gatekeeping it for others
prime resurgence cost so much money im like damn even for lille piece of armor cosmetics :|
5:36 this is so funny to me 🤣
Also Alad V is the best.
Комрад! Юур инглиш из вэри бьютифул. Ви хоуп юу киип доинг дхингс лайке тхис!
(без издевки, просто у тебя клевый русский акцент:3)
Продолжай мы посмотрим)
хороший инглишь бро лучше чем у многих моиг одноклассников кста мы прешли тебе помочь
Let's gooooo
Parvis granum on top
Салам ПОЧТИ английская аудитория, мы здесь
Тру рашен аксент,ай лайк ит
KKKKKKKKKKKKKK Q VIDEO INCRIVEL DA PORRA PQP
A quick note, an orokin elite is what you are referring to at the start, but the term "orokin" is simply a term for human as a whole. (At least from what ive heard). So when Hunhow calls alad an orokin, he simply is calling him human to differ himself and Natah (sentients) from the humans. Beyond that, amazing video!
Orokin specifically refers to the ruling class. Not humanity as a whole. Corpus are as orokin as grineer are, which is to say, not at all.
@@NotMyRealName69 fair enough, I'm just saying what I've heard, good shot I'm wrong
@@plaguedoctor5145 I'm a lore nerd, I love warframe. But so many people in the community literally act like the game contradicts itself which it really doesn't. The people who say that orokin is a general term for humanity also probably thought The Sacrifice quest retconned how warframes were made, even though they were always humans turned with a modified infestation strain but they didnt clearly state that before. This goes for anyone here not you now, but find me ONE piece of lore that says orokin is a blanket term and not reserved for the ruling class, or that corpus are orokin. I will wait lmao
@@NotMyRealName69 upon reading the wiki, it refers to the society as Orokin not only the higher class. It even goes out of it's way to distinguish "high-ranking orokin" then describing what I called the orokin elites. Another not is it refers to "orokin civilisation" just as we would refer to "human civilisation" not "upperclass" or "noble" etc. Even on the forums, there was people arguing either way
@@plaguedoctor5145 in universe lore clearly makes a difference between orokin and their slaves. It's called the orokin empire because they were the rulers. Orokin was a (ruling)caste of humans not the name for humans. Give me one link to something that says otherwise from the game or official source not people arguing for it on a wiki forum.
Забавно будет посмотреть через пару лет насколько илик прокачается в инглише и сравнить видосы)
Перестать делать контент для основной аудитории и начать делать контент с акцентом уровня индуса-программиста это конечно сильно.
Бля я что тоже так стремно звучу когда пытаюсь учитт инглиш?🤣
Хорош, так даже интересней)
А кто-то может и не знать что русский
Huh
Parvos granum is better
красава продолжай
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Warframe is killing itself