Uh.... Insta camera for no battery problems, good external recorder + small mic + deadcat so it doesn't blow wind into mic and problem solved. come on, who in 2022 is still using camera audio :P this just doesn't make sense
I too thought the sound was good. I think searching for the perfect sound will be difficult, but in all honesty, I like the fact there was a bit of background noise as it made me/us feel like we were riding along with you as opposed to have a perfect sound which could have been created in a studio and dubbed over.
I'm a new motovlogger and I been struggling with the very same problems. first with a GoPro that I borrowed from my brother in law and now trying to find audio solutions with a Insta360 one X2. I really is frustrating! Keep it up!
Dropping the old camera into the tin tub (the sound!) was great! It's those tiny little tid bits that keeps me coming back! I sometimes expect you to say, "Action!". Okay, you're the director, producer and action Hero! Busy girl! Thanks, Jess!!
I thought the audio was clear and the video resolution very good. Hopefully all this equipment works out for the best for you. Thanks for taking us along for the ride!
I bought one of those. Sold it at a loss cause audio quality was horrible not to mention editing that footage was a bit more difficult. Hope you have better luck with yours. When mounting the camera I use sugru glue. Stuff will hold forever and never falls off like those 3m pads do. The phone mount your using has no vibration dampener or does it? May break your phone camera if it vibrates too much. Okay I’m out lol. Take care ride safe
And so it goes. Thanks for sharing a bit of behind the scenes. And thanks for pushing to get the very best quality you can. It does make a difference in watching the videos and it is appreciated!
Yay - the red is back!! Great video, I thought the audio at the end sounded just fine. Definitely didn’t pick up the wind noise like the first setup. As popular as motorcycle riding, and motovlogging specifically, is getting there are bound to be new products and enhancements coming out more frequently. Keep the vids coming!
I think the 2nd audio setup sounded much better. I do not know why audio is such voodoo. I started using just a voice recorder , but now I feel turning stuff on is a pain. And I'm just playing around. Nothing serious like you. What ever camera you were using in the house was great. Thanks for sharing with us, I appreciate all the time you take for us.
Love your videos!!!!!! The black lines are for stereo in puts. The adaptor you are using will not help. The sound you are hearing is wind noise. Try putting a little more foam around the mic or moving the mic around. You can also use a fan if it is strong enough to simulate the wind on the road for testing it out.
I had to crack up at myself... As you were showing us all of the nifty neato Rok Form items, I saw Midge's tail tip move and jumped. I thought it was a snake!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I guess I need another cup of The audio was definitely better the second time around, but I get it that it's not what you want. I hope you figure out the right set up so you can enjoy your rides and we can enjoy your videos even more!
I understand your frustration with the audio, I have been through the same stuff. Here’s what I did and it resulted in the best audio I’ve ever had….and it was cheap! I bought a set of wired Apple earbuds, then I cut off the right earbud and taped up the end of the wire. The left earbud also has the button inline that controls the volume and allows you to answer/end calls. I bought a pack of craft fur sheets from Hobby Lobby, it’s imitation fur….faux fur. I took the thickest sheet of fur and cut a tiny rectangle off of it about 1 inch x 1-1/2 inches. Then I wrapped the tiny rectangle of fur around the volume button (the microphone is sealed inside this button) so it would act as a dead-cat to keep the wind noise out. I could have also removed the left earbud and only have a wire with the tiny microphone, but I use the left earbud when I’m using my map on my phone so I can hear the directions. Anyhow, this set up work’s phenomenally! It works (and sounds) better than ANY of my multiple microphones…including the Rode Microphones I have! I have no idea why Apple uses such an amazing microphone in these earbuds and only charges $29 for them…..because the audio from that tiny microphone sounds like it’s in the $300 price range! This set up if very very tiny and it hides very well inside of my helmet…I just have to be careful not to mount it directly in front of my mouth because it picks up every breath I take. I mount it beside my left cheek and I can’t feel it whatsoever. Anyhow, I hope this gives you another idea to try…. Good luck and God bless! Sincerely, Donnie Miller (Standing Goats Rescue)
That phone mount and case are cool- I've never used my phone while on the bike, and I hate using it for GPS, because it just obliterates the battery. As far as the audio, at low speeds your sound is fine; at highway speeds you may not ever completely get rid of the wind noise short of going to a totally separate audio recorder with a really good external mic and editing them together. But even with the wind noise at highway speeds, your voice is totally audible, and there's no problem understanding you. It's a motovlog- don't stress out too much about a little wind and engine noise. If you run into sections where your voice audio is unintelligible and you really wanted to get an important point across, voice over it and say so. We understand. Thanks for working so hard to fine tune your setup; your videos are awesome, and we enjoy them!
hi, I have had similar issues with getting a mic setup for my helmet. I use DJI Action camera which you have to remove the access door to get to the usb-c port, plug in an adapter, use another plug adapter taking it from a 3 section jack to a 2 section jack that is now extending rearward toward the front of your helmet by almost 3"... and making it very unworkable. However, I did finally find a mic for the action camera that is a direct usb-c plug in. Works great!!! just open the access door, plug it in, and all the adapters are gone. Very happy that I found this solution.
I’m reaching out because my company puts on Ohio Bike Week, a huge rally in Sandusky,Ohio. If you weren’t busy I’d love to have you out to experience it and meet you/show you around! Awesome rally in the state of Ohio! The party is at Mad River Harley-Davidson!
Part of my job in the Air Force was working/modifying pilots flying gear. Every pilot would have a custom poured helmet for their heads only. We'd basically stripped government issue pilots down to bare shells, make custom ear pads with the audio inside the foam. Everything wrapped in deerskin leather, I loved pouring new helmets and never had a single pilot that was not " I can't believe what I've been missing!" That's a awesome looking helmet Jess. I'm not familiar with go pros and audio stuff for helmets. But I do enjoy watching you just climbing and climbing up the task you set in front of yourself with what you do here. Your videos are always fun, I just enjoyed the best 16 Oz. Coors I've had in awhile! Your video on the lowrider st got me in the want a new bike mode! I wish I could afford one, im just lucky to be on one at all. You did a review of the softail standard fxst I watched. I put a soundbar on mine when I got it in 2020, a windshield, new seat and tall backrest on, nothing fancy but the 107 is fast on that light frame. I miss my electraglide at times and my first bike, a 2006 Heritage off the floor. But it's all good and as it should be. You coming through Eureka Springs this summer??? 🙏
I have also been trying various mike setups. I get a lot of wind noise because it is always windy here in Iowa. Audio is pretty good on calm days, but on says when the wind is doing 25 mph and up it is very noisy, especially in crosswinds. We have been clocking winds up to 60-70 mph (Gusts) with steady winds of 25-30 mph a lot lately. Thanks for all you videos.
I feel you on the quality issues it broke me… I tried to get some videos going but trying to get things to work is stressful and I still have popcorn on my videos over 20mph…
Using 2 pieces of 3M tape doesn’t really help much. It just makes it stand off the helmet that much more. If you want it to stay, use some 3M adhesive promoter. I use it every time I have to use 3M for a project. I usually do 3-4 coats then stick it on. It will never come off unless you want it to.
I second this!!!! I have been working in sign shops for over 30 years..... 3m adhesion promoter and prepping the surfaces with alcohol!!!! doubling up may actually cause a weak spot! but .. regardless looks like a strong setup!
Stacking can actually weaken the bound as they are not meant to adhere to each other. Promoter is the way to go with any adhesive that uses it. I’ve CA glued a brick to a wall that you can stand on, the trick is to use a good quality promoter. Also, it usually makes the adhesive set up faster as well.
Sena has came a long way. I still have the Sena 10A. Really want a camera. Just no cash for things like that. Struggling a little. Living the dream. Rock on Jess.
The bands separate the circuits, or wires.it’s a thin insulator that keeps them from contacting and shorting. One band indicates a positive and a ground. Mono speakers usually have the band closer to the end. A microphone plug should have the band closer to base than the tip. Two wires is all a microphone needs. As they typically only use one channel. The rest of the wires would be grounded if you use an adapter. Two bands separates the plug into three contacts, they are typically stereo plugs. Left, right, and ground. It’s very rare to find a mono speaker and microphone version but they can be identified by having different bands. The stereo speaker will have two bands closer to the tip. Mono speaker with microphone will have one band close to the top and one closer to the base. Three bands or four contacts would likely be left, right and a single wire microphone with a ground. Ground is always the contact closest to the base of the plug. Typically there is no issue with the ground contacting extra unused contacts or wires. Or empty contacts touching the ground. A stereo with microphone to a microphone can cause issues as the two speaker contacts may be shorter together which would result in low sound, typically. They come on 1/16, 1/8, and 1/4 sizes, typically. 1/8 is most common. With that, you are now an expert on phone connectors.
My partner is in audiovisual recording, and I know she is ultra-thorough in her testing of her setup. It sounds like she met her match in you. Good production values are always a plus, and they earn respect. Thank you for your effort.
So sorry about all your difficulties. This is part of why I decided not to start a UA-cam channel. 😁 You're working with some weird sound constraints--water, space restrictions, strong wind... You really show why your craft deserves so much respect. Also, I didn't realize right away that the long flicky thing was a cat tail. I thought you had a snek friend.
That is a bummer but I do like the new red helmet definitely and I’m sure you’ll figure it out glad the weather is better and your able to get out and enjoy 😊
Just ordered this microphone that works with all 3.5mm microphone plug-ins. Can plug directly into the back of the Gopro media mod without the microphone adapter. Best part is after being mounted you can move the microphone to a desired location as the microphone is on an adjustable arm.
A. You’re super hard on yourself. B. You can do things off camera and then explain how you did it so you don’t feel time pressure. C. Appreciate that you are secure enough to show us the process, even if it’s not perfect….but it doesn’t have to be!!! So thanks for sharing your setup with us! D. You need a fuzzy thingy over the mic, E. You can always add commentary in post…. My unsolicited $0.02
2 stickers actually weakens it. It only adds a failure point with it having 3 stick points instead of 2. Imagine the mustard between the bologna instead of the bread, it just slides off.
@@ChadLand011 The two adhesives pretty much make a permanent bond between themselves. The only drawback to stacking the pads, is adding a flex joint. You heard her say the camera is vibrating a lot? The stacked pads is one reason, exacerbated by the boom arm of the mount.
Thank you so much for posting! I for one like all your videos, even ones that are out of the ordinary. And, as a matter of normal fact, I love it when fellow Moto/Bicycle Vloggers show their text setup videos!❤❤
I feel you. I'm currently on the phone with GoPro support to get yet another replacement Media Mod. This is the second time I've had the 3.5mm mic port fail. I seem to get nothing but intermittent popping and mute audio no matter what mic I use or what software settings on the cameras. So frustrating! There is a huge opportunity for someone to solve the action camera/helmet audio problem. As far as I can tell, there are currently no good solutions out there. Everything is complex/expensive/unreliable. The only way I've found to get decent audio is with a standalone digital audio recorder, but then you have the hassle of trying to sync in post, and the hassle of trying to start/stop yet another device and create sync points. Depending on the type of riding you are trying to capture, this can be difficult to impossible. Ugh!
Everyone talks about Rockform on UA-cam... but still not sticking anything on my phone or using a case to hold it. I got a holder that holds the phone fine, just tighten with a thumb screw so it stays firm... mounted on a ram mount ball... and has built in wireless charging. Works great, and was like $20 and don't have to worry about my phone battery or wires to plug in or anything.
I use a cheap gaming mic (Amazon has hundreds of them), and a cat's butt for the wind. Plugs right into the Go-Pro Media Mod. The only issue I had, was the mic has a rather stiff boom (adjustable headset style). I ran the boom between the Ruroc chin skirt and the helmet edge, to use as much of the short boom as I could. I then secured it with two small holes in the chin skirt wall, through which I used a tiny zip-tie to secure it nice and snug. I was using a Purple Panda mic, but that 5 feet of wire just would not stay tucked in the helmet. I have to keep the chin vent closed, because enough wind noise gets through, but my 3.0 doesn't get that hot anyway (not that I can't crack the visor for cool air). I think the hunt for the "best" helmet mic will go on as long as there are different opinions on what is good audio!
That Insta360 action camera looks awesome! I had no idea they had a modular style cameras like that and I think it's a brilliant idea! That being said however, there's a few things to note about the GoPro's that many people may not realize which drastically reduces the number of audio-related issues and failures. 1. When using the audio plug-in adapter, do NOT use the instant record button (Blockhead mentions this in his Atlas 4.0 review video). Rather instead, ALWAYS power on the camera FIRST, then press the record button. This greatly reduces the audio issues or the camera not recognizing that the audio adapter is connected. 2. After each time using the GoPro and after copying your footage onto your computer/laptop/HDD, ALWAYS format the MicroSD card on the GoPro BEFORE recording ANY new video. This resets the MicroSD card and will avoid you getting random I/O errors or record errors after 10-20 minutes of recording then suddenly losing video or having it corrupted. 3. Another great tip that Blockhead also mentioned, when starting a new recording session, take a 5-second 'test' clip and record/playback to verify audio is working properly. By following these 3 quick steps each and every time you use a GoPro, this will DRASTICALLY reduce the number of audio related issues and failures. Again nothing is perfect and of course there's no guarantee however it's all about minimizing the risk of having any potential issues. I hope this helps someone as these quick tips have worked great for me so far! Enjoy and thanks Jess for another great video!
Good info but totally unacceptable. If you had to do that for reliable audio/video on any phone that phone would get toasted in the media. Go-Pro is riding on it's name and the ride will come to a quick end if they don't solve ALL issues in the next model release.
I also was informed, by a real Go Pro guy, that if you are using an external mic, to turn on power first--then record. "Instant record" works fine with the internal mic. Apparently, there is some conflict with the programming trying to decide which mic to use, since it is set up to only run the internal mic. I also always format the SD card after transferring all the video, out of habit from using digital SLR cameras.
Just watched this. Couldn’t agree more with your GoPro comments. I’m new to action cameras myself and really like insta360 cameras. Personally I thought your audio sounded good. Looking forward to seeing your current setup. I really enjoy these equipment videos
Enjoyed your how to video 👍 actually didn’t hear anything wrong with the sound quality however I realize you want to best sound you can possibly get 😎 keep up the great work Jess!
I don’t need a new helmet, I really don’t need a new one… But the Ruroc ones are so cool! My husband has the previous atlas model and I’m so jealous! They’re coming our with a Wonder Woman livery this week… might check it out 😅 thanks for the video Jess!
I just got the Insta360 One X2 and I am loving it. I purchased it for my channel to add Moto Vloging to it. Its awesome. Love it and its awesome, However I do not see me attaching it to my helmet. With 360 you will not need to.
UGH, the technology struggle is real! I tried about 4 other setups and in my experience in the professional audio/visual world, a lot of the lav mics just get overdriven by the road noise which makes them sound terrible. I'm using the exact same mic setup with the Sena mic and adapter on my Hero 8, and I ended up taping the connectors together which seems to really help avoid issues with disconnections. I tried the Xbox mic after finding it in one of your early videos and it just didn't work for me sadly, and like you said, it's far too short! Thanks for making this video, I always like to see what other people use for their moto vlog setup.
Thanks, enjoyed the Insta360 One RS overview. I'll compare it to some other GoPro alternatives for my next camera. I would be unhappy with the wind noise too, but the audio wasn't too bad, for me I like a little more bass. Hope you get it all worked out! I think those black lines you mentioned in the mic plugs are spacers for the electrical contacts. I'm sure you already know but in case a novice reader is out here one spacer is for a mono mic and two spacers is a stereo mic, and the third metal contact is for ground. Oh just have Jordan use his calipers to measure the diameter of the plug.
THAT IS A HUGE CLAMP!!!! It shocked me a little when you picked it up. Thanks for such an informative video. For anyone who want to start doing what you do, this is important....:))
Audio sounded fine. I have had my rokform bar mount for about 3 years. And i love that think. But its faded to a real rich purple look, but my scooter sits outside in the elements. Great vid, keep em coming
Another vote for Sugru moldable glue. 3 years now and the mount for my helmet camera is still rock solid. easier and it point exactly where I want it without getting in the way. I know what you are doing is just fine, just another option. I've had those 3M pads let go before.
And another possible suggestion, for my work helmet with NODS up front (I'm a SWAT medic), I use a small pouch with counter balance weights on the very back of the helmet that really makes a difference with the heavy front weight. Doesnt take up too much room, and they come in black!
Bit the bullet and just ordered the Rokform mount and case. 25% off is legit - THANK YOU. As always, appreciate your videos and product feedback. Ride Safe!
I’m new to a GoPro 8. I received one for a service gift from my employer. I’ve only done one real recording session with it. I had it set for the highest quality. It broke my hour long video up into roughly 12 minute segments that I cannot seem to splice together in one contiguous video feed. When I do splice it all together it skips about every 15 seconds throughout the whole video making it shorter.
I feel your pain. Ever since upgrading to the Hero 7 and the audio adaptor I've struggled to get good audio without the crackling and popping. Tried every brand mic and settings and still terrible audio. Back to the Hero 3 & 4 where you don't need the adaptor. Would think by now these manufacturers would make it easy!
I’ve been using a GoPro hero 10 with the media mod and keeping no battery inside of it, running a USB-C cable from the GoPro into my pocket where I have a 26,000 mA hour battery and I have a purple panda taped up inside my helmet. This has completely solved my audio issues
Im with you on the Gopro being notorious for losing audio for no reason. And also for the Xbox mic being the best option. I guess it's important for 14 year olds to hear each other insulting one another on Fortnight. I have to watch my blinky light CLOSELY on my Gopro, and on long distances, just remove the battery and plug a cord into the adapter port to keep it powered. Nice video. I'll be watching closely to see if the Insta has a remedy.
Every issue I have ever had with GoPro. Has come down to the SD card being used. I started using High end expensive cards. Plus, I stopped formatting the cards with the GoPro. Just me, hopefully this Insta 360 works out for you... I wish sony would make the FDR-X3000 flat. I love that camera.
With the mic, 1 line is for mono audio, 2 is the separator for stereo, so you have left and right recording. Definitely do not use a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor as movement in that can cause static. I'm in the process of trailing a few lavalier mics, and have found depending on the mic, placement in your helmet has a lot to do with it.
The Rurock helmetts are not know for being very quiet. They often get dinged for how noisy they are. That being said, if it came with a chin curtain, make sure that is installed and it may make things a bit quieter. I normally don't ride with a chin curtain because I find it makes the helmet a bit hotter and I am in south Texas. I hope that helps.
Ruroc's do come with a chin skirt. It's a bit of fabric, rather than a mesh or net, and extends a little further in than most. Mine just barely tickles my chin!
The single black ring on the one mic indicates a mono mic. 2 rings are stereo, and 3 rings are 2 way communication (rather than just input like a microphone, the 3 rings are input and output). You should try the single ring mic - it'll probably sound OK, and it's not like you're recording music while you're on your motorcycle. Good luck!
TASCAM DR-10L with a Sennheiser MKE 2-EW Gold is the dream audio setup if you are willing to deal with syncing up audio in post. You might even find that Sennheiser MKE 2-EW Gold working much better with the Insta. I have gone through quite the trial and error with mics and it’s a brutally frustrating process.
All I've ever wanted is to be able to take my helmet off and not be attached to a bunch or cables and batteries lol. Maybe one day in the future I'll resort to external audio. But I wish I didn't have to! Too bad things just don't work they way they're supposed to haha
@@HerTwoWheels I agree. Maybe just try the better mic into the insta, you might be surprised at how good the insta handles audio with a more premium mic. It sucks to spend that kind of money on a mic but mine has held up well since 12/18/20 (just looked up when I bought it). I will never go back to less of a mic for motovlogs even though the mic costs just as much as a camera lol.
Gopro hero 8 troubleshooting if you haven't already. Try buying a completely new battery. Make sure SD card is exactly what goprp recommend. Maybe go Mediamod. Gopro hero 9 is much reliable granted what I mentioned about GP8 has been done also. Purple panda while over priced, I've had great quality and no issues. Maybe replace the GP8 with a GP10 as last resort. Good luck
If all else fails, use a portable audio recorder and rec the audio separately. Although, to be honest, the first audio setup was better than the second, albeit a bit tinny. That can be fixed in post, though.
Did you use the same type of mic that you usually use on the GoPro? Maybe that could be affecting the audio. Also, if the GoPro adapter fits onto the Insta360, it could possibly help improve the audio. And there's always the option for an external recorder for better audio, but that would just add more bulk to your setup.
No, this is a new mic because I needed a cord to reach the adapter. But I tested this new mic with the gopro after editing this video and it sounded great! haha
I also have a go pro product and it is a lot of hassle to transfer video to operate the camera, I think I’ll give the 360 a tryout, great review girl rider
When 90 percent of people are watching on their phones all that really matters is the audio and video match up and you don't sound underwater. Every creator I have ever watched I feel like eventually gets caught up in this quality issue and at least for me it all sounds the same. Just use whatever is reliable.
I laughed when I saw your title and thumbnail. You... drama queen! lol A few months back, I saw several videos about the new RoozRock (no I'm not an Aussie, but I know they'll like my change of the brand name there) Alpha 4.0 and they all said it fit really tight. The RS battery is at least twice as big, that's got to translate to quite a bit more recording time. And more space in your bag for a spare battery, but you won't need as many spares. Me likey. It is a larger camera overall, but I'm not sure that matters other than perhaps weight. I use a Hero10 mostly (and a 7, but my helmet cam is the 10) and I use the media mod, so there's no huge dongle like with the Hero 8 and prior. I use a One X2 cam and the tiny screen makes it difficult to see if it's on and recording and the buttons to power up are impossible to feel in gloves. I've started to adjust the angle I keep the camera at (since it almost doesn't matter WHAT angle it's at) so I can SEE the button, but I also need to see the front. We'll see how that goes. Any tips would be appreciated. BTW, I totally agree about the red and black thing. Hey, it matches your new camera! Unexpected fashion coord! The Alpha is not well suited to a chin mount due to that large grid for venting. It provides less contact surface for the adhesive. You went to the side (as I would have), but that requires an extra mount piece or two to get the camera positioned properly. I had my camera like 1/8" left of center when I mounted it. Didn't notice until later and of course, I OCD'd about it for a while. The mount was coming loose, so I just pulled the adhesive off, used a heat gun to reheat and was more attentive to centering it. It's been 3 days and I haven't ridden with a camera yet, but it's holding solid, so we're good for a 5000 mile ride, right? ;) I never mount my phone to my bars. I want the phone on me if I happen to dump. Especially if I'm doing off road as I might be separated from the bike a bit and not able to get to it, move, etc. Keeping the phone on me means (providing I have a signal), I always have that ripcord. There are other options for that safety like Garmin InReach or Spot, etc. For navigation, I've used Garmin Zumos for about 15 years. They are the best in the business IMO, although they have their problems and the BaseCamp software I use on the Mac can be frustration for this computer nerd. Plus they've stopped developing it. I know many people use phone mounts and their phone for routing, I just have got into the habit of separating that and it works well for me. Added crash bonus, if the GPS gets mangled, I'm bummed. But I still have my phone. Downside? Extra cost for the GPS. Re: vibes on the Harley. Appa has a rubber mounted engine. It probably shakes like a paint mixer at idle, but smooths out real quick once you accelerate like my Road King does. Not sure about your Dyna. The Boxer engine on the BMW is not typically super vibey and the pistons are 180 degrees apart which provides more balance than a 45 degree V-twin. I only mind the Harley shake at LONG stop lights. All cities hate motorcyclists. How often do you get to a light where there's no one but you and you wait. And wait. And wait. I watch most UA-cam on my AppleTV, not on my phone with earbuds (I never use earbuds), so that wind noise wasn't THAT bad for me. Ah, the differences between TS, TRS and TRRS connectors. But quite frankly, a mic like that only needs TS. Some have more cuz they might go into a jack that's intended for headphones AND mic, though. Extra rings are required for those signals. A good mic adaptor should be able to get the signal off a ring and sleeve as on a simple TS connector, it's all just sleeve anyway. But yeah, adaptors are bad for anything moving. The connection will fatigue and introduce noise and static over time. You're a UA-cam influencer. Reach out to both GoPro and Insta360. Mention the concerns with each company's product for your needs. You're not the only motorcyclist that uses action cameras by far, so they SHOULD listen. They might ask you to test some changes even to help improve things. GoPro probably just needs to tweak their software to work better. The audio dongle was replaced by the media mod, which basically wraps the dongle around the whole camera, lol. Insta360 would need to redesign their mic adaptor and possibly their noise reduction in their software. I hope you can quickly settle into a setup that works well for you. I like the idea of the modular camera Insta360 is doing. You can just take it off your helmet and mount it elsewhere for some 360 action. But that will probably mean you go micless unless you get a wireless mic, which might solve some of your issues (but $$$). Wait for the DJI if you do. The Rode is nice, but the DJI looks really good, IMO. I used to work in the AV business in trade shows, doing sound, computer projection, etc. Plus I used to be a semi-pro musician (hobbyist for a very long time now, tho), so I'm into the gear stuff. I like the occasional gear vid and refitting your new lid was a perfect opportunity to nerd out with us. Sorry for yet another epic comment from MNB. lol
So, I didn't think the initial audio was too bad, maybe not as good as your older setup, but not bad. That being said, I use a gopro hero 6 still, and the gopro mic adapter. But I have really good luck with the giant Squid mic. I'm by no means trying to just grab views, but check out one of my videos to see what you think of the audio. It's a pretty cheap mic and might be worth testing out with your new insta setup.
I think the first audio test was fine, but I would add a deadcat to your mic to minimize wind noise. The second test was much more muffled. I would not choose that mic
I had a real problem with Hero5 and that stupid block mic adapter. I kept dropping my audio. I stopped using the 5 and went back old school like Shadetree and starting using my 4.
After experiencing some issues with my GoPro I also looked into getting the RS. I really hope the toy can figure out a good solution with it so you can have a reliable set up
I can’t wait to see how you get on with the insta 360..I’m looking at buying my first action camera and need an honest first hand review of it without all the BS that comes with a lot of the other sponsored UA-camrs..! In short I know you’ll say it how it is and if it’s a worthy camera..👍
The video was good with the rockform camera the audio picked up wind noise but not real bad..you didn't mention if the shield was down or not..probably was down. So if the shield was down air turbulence was coming up around your chin and the Mike was picking it up in the background but did not override your voice which was perfectly clear and loud. Maybe some sort of wind deflector around the bottom of the helmet would lessen the wind noise ...you may be able to quiet it down with a scarf around your neck to help block out the wind from entering the inside of the helmet, but it wouldn't be very comfortable in the summer heat. All in all it really wasn't as bad as some others I have heard on videos. The stability of the video was great . You had mentioned you could see the camera moving about in front of your face...but it did not show in the actual video. I would give it a 8.5 out of 10 over all. But it's up to you. I did notice at some point the wind noise did get somewhat quieter and it may be because you were looking slightly down and closed off the opening under the helmet some. I'm sure you will come up with remedy to quiet the background noises more. Also you didn't mention if you had replaced the cheek padding before taking hour ride. No doubt in my mind that you will get it all figured out.
Great camera choice I have been using Insta 360 on my channel since last september I have 3 of them now including Inch sensor mic adapter is much smaller on One RS regarding helmet I would never get Ruroc 😁
Sorry you have had issues with the Gopro. I have never experienced issues with mine yet but I am running the hero 9. Agree with the Mic adapter part though they could make it small just like the 360 cam one you showed. Would be frustrating thinking recorded something awesome and found it missing or damaged.
I just got my insta360 RS Twin this week, ready for the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride but haven't had time yet to hook up to my bike. I noticed in the Insta360 Studio under Media Processing\True Audio there's a noise reduction feature. Not sure what that exactly does but maybe that's what we're looking for?
I like your videos even if cruisers are of next to zero interest for me, even the R18 and I am a BMW guy! Keep up the good work. I hear you regarding the GoPro lack of reliability and completely agree. I have a GoPro Hero & Black that has locked up on me at inopportune times during a motorcycle tour and I lost opportunities to record because I could not turn on the camera or it locked up while recording. And don't get me started about the GoPro Remote - POS. Never reconnects when turned on. So I got a Insta360 ONE RS with the 4K Boost lens and tried it for motovlogging. I had the Insta360 ONE R with the 360 lens mod and it never locked up so it appears to be totally relaible hence the purchase of the RS. So far I am encouraged and have no issues with the audio although I rate the GoPro audio slightly better as it comes out slightly fuller, while the sound from the RS seems to be slightly sharper. That may actually be better for voice and certainly can be post processed if desired. You certainly sounded fine in this video - nice and clear - and for me the sound was definitely better than when you used the Sena mic. That sounded muffled. Stabilization and colour redition on the RS is great and is comparable to my GoPro. I will be doing a comparison video on my channel soon.
I got myself a brand new helmet it a Scorpion Exo T1200 mainstay white Touring I added gopro hero5 black and housing holds 📷 is a Ulanzi and chin mount I use sugru moldable glue & added Cardo packtalk bold black and I added a Steel Mate helmet light too! Mrs Jess
I doubled up on the tape to the helmet and it fell off on the way to an event. I ended up using expoxy that the HD dealer had. It works but not pretty.. have you thought about using the Ruroc camera mount itself?? I have one but didn’t put it on yet. A bit cleaner than the arm. Thoughts? Btw both audio were pretty good, but yeah the second is cleaner with background noise.
Hey Jess! I'm torn between an indian Rogue Scout (22 and new) or a 2018 triumph speedmaster with 8k miles from a random dealer. The indian rogue has been on order a month and no idea when it will be delivered so I'm antsy and want to ride. Ive had my license for 6 years but this is my first bike. Thank you!
Audio on the first mic was only just passable on the freeway but it was fine in urban riding, I thought the second mic while not perfect was considerably better on the freeway, could you reach out to Insta 360 for possible solutions? There must be some forums you could browse for ideas too
My GoPro setup can be a bit wonky too. On the 8 I use the media mod and make sure everything is updated. I think GoPro doesn't play well with android as well. The work your doing to get us great video is appreciated.
Image stability is good. Paused the video and did a sceen shot. Focus is good also. ( 63 in a 55 🤔😁) Shame Radio Shack went out of business. Going to have to do some web searches for a mic that is what you need.
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Thanks again for great video! Mrs Jess
Jess your click bait is out of control. 😉😉😉
I love the new effort.
Ride hard, ride strong.
I’m using the AKASO Brave and it lasts 8 hrs. Never hooked up a mic though. Like the woman with horns behind you. lol.
Uh....
Insta camera for no battery problems, good external recorder + small mic + deadcat so it doesn't blow wind into mic and problem solved.
come on, who in 2022 is still using camera audio :P this just doesn't make sense
Thanks for taking the time. We miss Ya down here in Florida!
I too thought the sound was good. I think searching for the perfect sound will be difficult, but in all honesty, I like the fact there was a bit of background noise as it made me/us feel like we were riding along with you as opposed to have a perfect sound which could have been created in a studio and dubbed over.
I'm a new motovlogger and I been struggling with the very same problems. first with a GoPro that I borrowed from my brother in law and now trying to find audio solutions with a Insta360 one X2. I really is frustrating! Keep it up!
Dropping the old camera into the tin tub (the sound!) was great! It's those tiny little tid bits that keeps me coming back! I sometimes expect you to say, "Action!". Okay, you're the director, producer and action Hero! Busy girl! Thanks, Jess!!
Thanks for the info Jess. I plan on videoing my rides. This helps tremendously.
I thought the audio was clear and the video resolution very good. Hopefully all this equipment works out for the best for you. Thanks for taking us along for the ride!
I bought one of those. Sold it at a loss cause audio quality was horrible not to mention editing that footage was a bit more difficult. Hope you have better luck with yours. When mounting the camera I use sugru glue. Stuff will hold forever and never falls off like those 3m pads do. The phone mount your using has no vibration dampener or does it? May break your phone camera if it vibrates too much. Okay I’m out lol. Take care ride safe
And so it goes. Thanks for sharing a bit of behind the scenes. And thanks for pushing to get the very best quality you can. It does make a difference in watching the videos and it is appreciated!
We appreciate you going through much to bring us quality audio and videos. Even though I always think your videos rock
Yay - the red is back!! Great video, I thought the audio at the end sounded just fine. Definitely didn’t pick up the wind noise like the first setup. As popular as motorcycle riding, and motovlogging specifically, is getting there are bound to be new products and enhancements coming out more frequently. Keep the vids coming!
I think the 2nd audio setup sounded much better. I do not know why audio is such voodoo. I started using just a voice recorder , but now I feel turning stuff on is a pain. And I'm just playing around. Nothing serious like you. What ever camera you were using in the house was great. Thanks for sharing with us, I appreciate all the time you take for us.
Thanks Jess for your videos and all the effort that goes into editing them. I love them.
I have no complaints about the audio from your first test. The second one was a little flat.
Love your videos!!!!!! The black lines are for stereo in puts. The adaptor you are using will not help. The sound you are hearing is wind noise. Try putting a little more foam around the mic or moving the mic around. You can also use a fan if it is strong enough to simulate the wind on the road for testing it out.
I had to crack up at myself... As you were showing us all of the nifty neato Rok Form items, I saw Midge's tail tip move and jumped. I thought it was a snake!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I guess I need another cup of
The audio was definitely better the second time around, but I get it that it's not what you want. I hope you figure out the right set up so you can enjoy your rides and we can enjoy your videos even more!
I understand your frustration with the audio, I have been through the same stuff. Here’s what I did and it resulted in the best audio I’ve ever had….and it was cheap!
I bought a set of wired Apple earbuds, then I cut off the right earbud and taped up the end of the wire. The left earbud also has the button inline that controls the volume and allows you to answer/end calls. I bought a pack of craft fur sheets from Hobby Lobby, it’s imitation fur….faux fur. I took the thickest sheet of fur and cut a tiny rectangle off of it about 1 inch x 1-1/2 inches. Then I wrapped the tiny rectangle of fur around the volume button (the microphone is sealed inside this button) so it would act as a dead-cat to keep the wind noise out. I could have also removed the left earbud and only have a wire with the tiny microphone, but I use the left earbud when I’m using my map on my phone so I can hear the directions.
Anyhow, this set up work’s phenomenally! It works (and sounds) better than ANY of my multiple microphones…including the Rode Microphones I have! I have no idea why Apple uses such an amazing microphone in these earbuds and only charges $29 for them…..because the audio from that tiny microphone sounds like it’s in the $300 price range!
This set up if very very tiny and it hides very well inside of my helmet…I just have to be careful not to mount it directly in front of my mouth because it picks up every breath I take. I mount it beside my left cheek and I can’t feel it whatsoever.
Anyhow, I hope this gives you another idea to try….
Good luck and God bless!
Sincerely,
Donnie Miller
(Standing Goats Rescue)
That phone mount and case are cool- I've never used my phone while on the bike, and I hate using it for GPS, because it just obliterates the battery.
As far as the audio, at low speeds your sound is fine; at highway speeds you may not ever completely get rid of the wind noise short of going to a totally separate audio recorder with a really good external mic and editing them together. But even with the wind noise at highway speeds, your voice is totally audible, and there's no problem understanding you. It's a motovlog- don't stress out too much about a little wind and engine noise. If you run into sections where your voice audio is unintelligible and you really wanted to get an important point across, voice over it and say so. We understand. Thanks for working so hard to fine tune your setup; your videos are awesome, and we enjoy them!
hi, I have had similar issues with getting a mic setup for my helmet. I use DJI Action camera which you have to remove the access door to get to the usb-c port, plug in an adapter, use another plug adapter taking it from a 3 section jack to a 2 section jack that is now extending rearward toward the front of your helmet by almost 3"... and making it very unworkable. However, I did finally find a mic for the action camera that is a direct usb-c plug in. Works great!!! just open the access door, plug it in, and all the adapters are gone. Very happy that I found this solution.
I’m reaching out because my company puts on Ohio Bike Week, a huge rally in Sandusky,Ohio. If you weren’t busy I’d love to have you out to experience it and meet you/show you around! Awesome rally in the state of Ohio! The party is at Mad River Harley-Davidson!
Part of my job in the Air Force was working/modifying pilots flying gear. Every pilot would have a custom poured helmet for their heads only. We'd basically stripped government issue pilots down to bare shells, make custom ear pads with the audio inside the foam. Everything wrapped in deerskin leather, I loved pouring new helmets and never had a single pilot that was not " I can't believe what I've been missing!" That's a awesome looking helmet Jess. I'm not familiar with go pros and audio stuff for helmets. But I do enjoy watching you just climbing and climbing up the task you set in front of yourself with what you do here. Your videos are always fun, I just enjoyed the best 16 Oz. Coors I've had in awhile! Your video on the lowrider st got me in the want a new bike mode! I wish I could afford one, im just lucky to be on one at all. You did a review of the softail standard fxst I watched. I put a soundbar on mine when I got it in 2020, a windshield, new seat and tall backrest on, nothing fancy but the 107 is fast on that light frame. I miss my electraglide at times and my first bike, a 2006 Heritage off the floor. But it's all good and as it should be. You coming through Eureka Springs this summer??? 🙏
I have also been trying various mike setups. I get a lot of wind noise because it is always windy here in Iowa. Audio is pretty good on calm days, but on says when the wind is doing 25 mph and up it is very noisy, especially in crosswinds. We have been clocking winds up to 60-70 mph (Gusts) with steady winds of 25-30 mph a lot lately. Thanks for all you videos.
I feel you on the quality issues it broke me… I tried to get some videos going but trying to get things to work is stressful and I still have popcorn on my videos over 20mph…
Using 2 pieces of 3M tape doesn’t really help much. It just makes it stand off the helmet that much more.
If you want it to stay, use some 3M adhesive promoter. I use it every time I have to use 3M for a project. I usually do 3-4 coats then stick it on. It will never come off unless you want it to.
I second this!!!! I have been working in sign shops for over 30 years..... 3m adhesion promoter and prepping the surfaces with alcohol!!!! doubling up may actually cause a weak spot! but .. regardless looks like a strong setup!
Stacking can actually weaken the bound as they are not meant to adhere to each other. Promoter is the way to go with any adhesive that uses it. I’ve CA glued a brick to a wall that you can stand on, the trick is to use a good quality promoter. Also, it usually makes the adhesive set up faster as well.
Sena has came a long way. I still have the Sena 10A. Really want a camera. Just no cash for things like that. Struggling a little. Living the dream. Rock on Jess.
The bands separate the circuits, or wires.it’s a thin insulator that keeps them from contacting and shorting.
One band indicates a positive and a ground. Mono speakers usually have the band closer to the end. A microphone plug should have the band closer to base than the tip. Two wires is all a microphone needs. As they typically only use one channel. The rest of the wires would be grounded if you use an adapter.
Two bands separates the plug into three contacts, they are typically stereo plugs. Left, right, and ground. It’s very rare to find a mono speaker and microphone version but they can be identified by having different bands. The stereo speaker will have two bands closer to the tip. Mono speaker with microphone will have one band close to the top and one closer to the base.
Three bands or four contacts would likely be left, right and a single wire microphone with a ground.
Ground is always the contact closest to the base of the plug.
Typically there is no issue with the ground contacting extra unused contacts or wires. Or empty contacts touching the ground. A stereo with microphone to a microphone can cause issues as the two speaker contacts may be shorter together which would result in low sound, typically.
They come on 1/16, 1/8, and 1/4 sizes, typically. 1/8 is most common.
With that, you are now an expert on phone connectors.
My partner is in audiovisual recording, and I know she is ultra-thorough in her testing of her setup. It sounds like she met her match in you. Good production values are always a plus, and they earn respect. Thank you for your effort.
So sorry about all your difficulties. This is part of why I decided not to start a UA-cam channel. 😁 You're working with some weird sound constraints--water, space restrictions, strong wind... You really show why your craft deserves so much respect.
Also, I didn't realize right away that the long flicky thing was a cat tail. I thought you had a snek friend.
That is a bummer but I do like the new red helmet definitely and I’m sure you’ll figure it out glad the weather is better and your able to get out and enjoy 😊
Just ordered this microphone that works with all 3.5mm microphone plug-ins. Can plug directly into the back of the Gopro media mod without the microphone adapter. Best part is after being mounted you can move the microphone to a desired location as the microphone is on an adjustable arm.
All though you weren't happy with the audio either time, I thing that it was a great improvement the 2nd time. Good luck. Nice helmet.
Just last week I got a cardo and a gopro and wanted to find a good setup my helmet. Thanks. Can't wait to start motovlogging
A. You’re super hard on yourself. B. You can do things off camera and then explain how you did it so you don’t feel time pressure. C. Appreciate that you are secure enough to show us the process, even if it’s not perfect….but it doesn’t have to be!!! So thanks for sharing your setup with us! D. You need a fuzzy thingy over the mic, E. You can always add commentary in post…. My unsolicited $0.02
2 stickers actually weakens it. It only adds a failure point with it having 3 stick points instead of 2. Imagine the mustard between the bologna instead of the bread, it just slides off.
Not being mean its my ocd problem. Lol.
@@ChadLand011 The two adhesives pretty much make a permanent bond between themselves. The only drawback to stacking the pads, is adding a flex joint. You heard her say the camera is vibrating a lot? The stacked pads is one reason, exacerbated by the boom arm of the mount.
Thank you so much for posting! I for one like all your videos, even ones that are out of the ordinary. And, as a matter of normal fact, I love it when fellow Moto/Bicycle Vloggers show their text setup videos!❤❤
Thabk you for the kind words!!!
Enjoyed the info about the insta 360.
Great picture quality. May need to also make that switch, I'll wait for your review
I feel you. I'm currently on the phone with GoPro support to get yet another replacement Media Mod. This is the second time I've had the 3.5mm mic port fail. I seem to get nothing but intermittent popping and mute audio no matter what mic I use or what software settings on the cameras. So frustrating! There is a huge opportunity for someone to solve the action camera/helmet audio problem. As far as I can tell, there are currently no good solutions out there. Everything is complex/expensive/unreliable. The only way I've found to get decent audio is with a standalone digital audio recorder, but then you have the hassle of trying to sync in post, and the hassle of trying to start/stop yet another device and create sync points. Depending on the type of riding you are trying to capture, this can be difficult to impossible. Ugh!
Everyone talks about Rockform on UA-cam... but still not sticking anything on my phone or using a case to hold it. I got a holder that holds the phone fine, just tighten with a thumb screw so it stays firm... mounted on a ram mount ball... and has built in wireless charging. Works great, and was like $20 and don't have to worry about my phone battery or wires to plug in or anything.
I use a cheap gaming mic (Amazon has hundreds of them), and a cat's butt for the wind. Plugs right into the Go-Pro Media Mod. The only issue I had, was the mic has a rather stiff boom (adjustable headset style). I ran the boom between the Ruroc chin skirt and the helmet edge, to use as much of the short boom as I could. I then secured it with two small holes in the chin skirt wall, through which I used a tiny zip-tie to secure it nice and snug. I was using a Purple Panda mic, but that 5 feet of wire just would not stay tucked in the helmet. I have to keep the chin vent closed, because enough wind noise gets through, but my 3.0 doesn't get that hot anyway (not that I can't crack the visor for cool air). I think the hunt for the "best" helmet mic will go on as long as there are different opinions on what is good audio!
That Insta360 action camera looks awesome! I had no idea they had a modular style cameras like that and I think it's a brilliant idea! That being said however, there's a few things to note about the GoPro's that many people may not realize which drastically reduces the number of audio-related issues and failures.
1. When using the audio plug-in adapter, do NOT use the instant record button (Blockhead mentions this in his Atlas 4.0 review video). Rather instead, ALWAYS power on the camera FIRST, then press the record button. This greatly reduces the audio issues or the camera not recognizing that the audio adapter is connected.
2. After each time using the GoPro and after copying your footage onto your computer/laptop/HDD, ALWAYS format the MicroSD card on the GoPro BEFORE recording ANY new video. This resets the MicroSD card and will avoid you getting random I/O errors or record errors after 10-20 minutes of recording then suddenly losing video or having it corrupted.
3. Another great tip that Blockhead also mentioned, when starting a new recording session, take a 5-second 'test' clip and record/playback to verify audio is working properly.
By following these 3 quick steps each and every time you use a GoPro, this will DRASTICALLY reduce the number of audio related issues and failures. Again nothing is perfect and of course there's no guarantee however it's all about minimizing the risk of having any potential issues. I hope this helps someone as these quick tips have worked great for me so far! Enjoy and thanks Jess for another great video!
Good info but totally unacceptable. If you had to do that for reliable audio/video on any phone that phone would get toasted in the media. Go-Pro is riding on it's name and the ride will come to a quick end if they don't solve ALL issues in the next model release.
I also was informed, by a real Go Pro guy, that if you are using an external mic, to turn on power first--then record. "Instant record" works fine with the internal mic. Apparently, there is some conflict with the programming trying to decide which mic to use, since it is set up to only run the internal mic. I also always format the SD card after transferring all the video, out of habit from using digital SLR cameras.
Just watched this.
Couldn’t agree more with your GoPro comments.
I’m new to action cameras myself and really like insta360 cameras. Personally I thought your audio sounded good. Looking forward to seeing your current setup.
I really enjoy these equipment videos
Enjoyed your how to video 👍 actually didn’t hear anything wrong with the sound quality however I realize you want to best sound you can possibly get 😎 keep up the great work Jess!
Ditto. Perhaps if one watches through a quality sound system, one may pick up distortions, but can’t hear any on the phone/tablet, even the tv.
I don’t need a new helmet, I really don’t need a new one… But the Ruroc ones are so cool! My husband has the previous atlas model and I’m so jealous! They’re coming our with a Wonder Woman livery this week… might check it out 😅 thanks for the video Jess!
I just got the Insta360 One X2 and I am loving it. I purchased it for my channel to add Moto Vloging to it. Its awesome. Love it and its awesome, However I do not see me attaching it to my helmet. With 360 you will not need to.
UGH, the technology struggle is real! I tried about 4 other setups and in my experience in the professional audio/visual world, a lot of the lav mics just get overdriven by the road noise which makes them sound terrible. I'm using the exact same mic setup with the Sena mic and adapter on my Hero 8, and I ended up taping the connectors together which seems to really help avoid issues with disconnections. I tried the Xbox mic after finding it in one of your early videos and it just didn't work for me sadly, and like you said, it's far too short! Thanks for making this video, I always like to see what other people use for their moto vlog setup.
Thanks, enjoyed the Insta360 One RS overview. I'll compare it to some other GoPro alternatives for my next camera. I would be unhappy with the wind noise too, but the audio wasn't too bad, for me I like a little more bass. Hope you get it all worked out!
I think those black lines you mentioned in the mic plugs are spacers for the electrical contacts. I'm sure you already know but in case a novice reader is out here one spacer is for a mono mic and two spacers is a stereo mic, and the third metal contact is for ground. Oh just have Jordan use his calipers to measure the diameter of the plug.
THAT IS A HUGE CLAMP!!!! It shocked me a little when you picked it up. Thanks for such an informative video. For anyone who want to start doing what you do, this is important....:))
I didn't mind the sound quality of your first try. As long as I can hear you....I'm good. Don't listen to youtube your videos are great.
Audio sounded fine. I have had my rokform bar mount for about 3 years. And i love that think. But its faded to a real rich purple look, but my scooter sits outside in the elements. Great vid, keep em coming
Glad to see the red helmet is back. You should treat it like an American Express card: don't leave home without it! 😁
Another vote for Sugru moldable glue. 3 years now and the mount for my helmet camera is still rock solid. easier and it point exactly where I want it without getting in the way. I know what you are doing is just fine, just another option. I've had those 3M pads let go before.
And another possible suggestion, for my work helmet with NODS up front (I'm a SWAT medic), I use a small pouch with counter balance weights on the very back of the helmet that really makes a difference with the heavy front weight. Doesnt take up too much room, and they come in black!
Bit the bullet and just ordered the Rokform mount and case. 25% off is legit - THANK YOU. As always, appreciate your videos and product feedback. Ride Safe!
I’m new to a GoPro 8. I received one for a service gift from my employer. I’ve only done one real recording session with it. I had it set for the highest quality. It broke my hour long video up into roughly 12 minute segments that I cannot seem to splice together in one contiguous video feed. When I do splice it all together it skips about every 15 seconds throughout the whole video making it shorter.
I feel your pain. Ever since upgrading to the Hero 7 and the audio adaptor I've struggled to get good audio without the crackling and popping. Tried every brand mic and settings and still terrible audio. Back to the Hero 3 & 4 where you don't need the adaptor. Would think by now these manufacturers would make it easy!
I’ve been using a GoPro hero 10 with the media mod and keeping no battery inside of it, running a USB-C cable from the GoPro into my pocket where I have a 26,000 mA hour battery and I have a purple panda taped up inside my helmet. This has completely solved my audio issues
You make that picture on the easel ? WOW ! Nice work 👍🏻
Your audio sounds good on my end. But I’m no expert. Happy riding!
Im with you on the Gopro being notorious for losing audio for no reason. And also for the Xbox mic being the best option. I guess it's important for 14 year olds to hear each other insulting one another on Fortnight. I have to watch my blinky light CLOSELY on my Gopro, and on long distances, just remove the battery and plug a cord into the adapter port to keep it powered. Nice video. I'll be watching closely to see if the Insta has a remedy.
Appreciate the video…consider going to the GP 7? Mine has been flawless and why I have not upgraded. Good luck
Every issue I have ever had with GoPro. Has come down to the SD card being used. I started using High end expensive cards. Plus, I stopped formatting the cards with the GoPro. Just me, hopefully this Insta 360 works out for you... I wish sony would make the FDR-X3000 flat. I love that camera.
With the mic, 1 line is for mono audio, 2 is the separator for stereo, so you have left and right recording. Definitely do not use a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor as movement in that can cause static. I'm in the process of trailing a few lavalier mics, and have found depending on the mic, placement in your helmet has a lot to do with it.
This was a very useful video to me. Thank you for creating it!
The Rurock helmetts are not know for being very quiet. They often get dinged for how noisy they are. That being said, if it came with a chin curtain, make sure that is installed and it may make things a bit quieter. I normally don't ride with a chin curtain because I find it makes the helmet a bit hotter and I am in south Texas. I hope that helps.
Ruroc's do come with a chin skirt. It's a bit of fabric, rather than a mesh or net, and extends a little further in than most. Mine just barely tickles my chin!
Enjoyed the video and didn't hear anything wrong with the audio keep up with the videos , loving it
The single black ring on the one mic indicates a mono mic. 2 rings are stereo, and 3 rings are 2 way communication (rather than just input like a microphone, the 3 rings are input and output). You should try the single ring mic - it'll probably sound OK, and it's not like you're recording music while you're on your motorcycle. Good luck!
And now i know! haha
TASCAM DR-10L with a Sennheiser MKE 2-EW Gold is the dream audio setup if you are willing to deal with syncing up audio in post. You might even find that Sennheiser MKE 2-EW Gold working much better with the Insta. I have gone through quite the trial and error with mics and it’s a brutally frustrating process.
All I've ever wanted is to be able to take my helmet off and not be attached to a bunch or cables and batteries lol. Maybe one day in the future I'll resort to external audio. But I wish I didn't have to! Too bad things just don't work they way they're supposed to haha
@@HerTwoWheels I agree. Maybe just try the better mic into the insta, you might be surprised at how good the insta handles audio with a more premium mic. It sucks to spend that kind of money on a mic but mine has held up well since 12/18/20 (just looked up when I bought it). I will never go back to less of a mic for motovlogs even though the mic costs just as much as a camera lol.
Gopro hero 8 troubleshooting if you haven't already. Try buying a completely new battery. Make sure SD card is exactly what goprp recommend. Maybe go Mediamod.
Gopro hero 9 is much reliable granted what I mentioned about GP8 has been done also.
Purple panda while over priced, I've had great quality and no issues.
Maybe replace the GP8 with a GP10 as last resort.
Good luck
Great comparison , I had no idea . . .
The audio sounds great. The video quality it perfect. I’m gonna have to check into this camera.
If all else fails, use a portable audio recorder and rec the audio separately. Although, to be honest, the first audio setup was better than the second, albeit a bit tinny. That can be fixed in post, though.
Awesome video and awesome content can’t wait for the next video Thank’s
Video was nice but I'm excited to hopefully catch a glimpse of that antlered character finished in the bg 😆
Maybe one day! 😅😅😅
I think you’ll get the audio figured out. Still a great video!
Working on it!
Did you use the same type of mic that you usually use on the GoPro? Maybe that could be affecting the audio. Also, if the GoPro adapter fits onto the Insta360, it could possibly help improve the audio. And there's always the option for an external recorder for better audio, but that would just add more bulk to your setup.
No, this is a new mic because I needed a cord to reach the adapter. But I tested this new mic with the gopro after editing this video and it sounded great! haha
I also have a go pro product and it is a lot of hassle to transfer video to operate the camera, I think I’ll give the 360 a tryout, great review girl rider
When 90 percent of people are watching on their phones all that really matters is the audio and video match up and you don't sound underwater. Every creator I have ever watched I feel like eventually gets caught up in this quality issue and at least for me it all sounds the same. Just use whatever is reliable.
I laughed when I saw your title and thumbnail. You... drama queen! lol
A few months back, I saw several videos about the new RoozRock (no I'm not an Aussie, but I know they'll like my change of the brand name there) Alpha 4.0 and they all said it fit really tight.
The RS battery is at least twice as big, that's got to translate to quite a bit more recording time. And more space in your bag for a spare battery, but you won't need as many spares. Me likey. It is a larger camera overall, but I'm not sure that matters other than perhaps weight. I use a Hero10 mostly (and a 7, but my helmet cam is the 10) and I use the media mod, so there's no huge dongle like with the Hero 8 and prior. I use a One X2 cam and the tiny screen makes it difficult to see if it's on and recording and the buttons to power up are impossible to feel in gloves. I've started to adjust the angle I keep the camera at (since it almost doesn't matter WHAT angle it's at) so I can SEE the button, but I also need to see the front. We'll see how that goes. Any tips would be appreciated.
BTW, I totally agree about the red and black thing. Hey, it matches your new camera! Unexpected fashion coord!
The Alpha is not well suited to a chin mount due to that large grid for venting. It provides less contact surface for the adhesive. You went to the side (as I would have), but that requires an extra mount piece or two to get the camera positioned properly. I had my camera like 1/8" left of center when I mounted it. Didn't notice until later and of course, I OCD'd about it for a while. The mount was coming loose, so I just pulled the adhesive off, used a heat gun to reheat and was more attentive to centering it. It's been 3 days and I haven't ridden with a camera yet, but it's holding solid, so we're good for a 5000 mile ride, right? ;)
I never mount my phone to my bars. I want the phone on me if I happen to dump. Especially if I'm doing off road as I might be separated from the bike a bit and not able to get to it, move, etc. Keeping the phone on me means (providing I have a signal), I always have that ripcord. There are other options for that safety like Garmin InReach or Spot, etc. For navigation, I've used Garmin Zumos for about 15 years. They are the best in the business IMO, although they have their problems and the BaseCamp software I use on the Mac can be frustration for this computer nerd. Plus they've stopped developing it. I know many people use phone mounts and their phone for routing, I just have got into the habit of separating that and it works well for me. Added crash bonus, if the GPS gets mangled, I'm bummed. But I still have my phone. Downside? Extra cost for the GPS.
Re: vibes on the Harley. Appa has a rubber mounted engine. It probably shakes like a paint mixer at idle, but smooths out real quick once you accelerate like my Road King does. Not sure about your Dyna. The Boxer engine on the BMW is not typically super vibey and the pistons are 180 degrees apart which provides more balance than a 45 degree V-twin. I only mind the Harley shake at LONG stop lights.
All cities hate motorcyclists. How often do you get to a light where there's no one but you and you wait. And wait. And wait.
I watch most UA-cam on my AppleTV, not on my phone with earbuds (I never use earbuds), so that wind noise wasn't THAT bad for me.
Ah, the differences between TS, TRS and TRRS connectors. But quite frankly, a mic like that only needs TS. Some have more cuz they might go into a jack that's intended for headphones AND mic, though. Extra rings are required for those signals. A good mic adaptor should be able to get the signal off a ring and sleeve as on a simple TS connector, it's all just sleeve anyway. But yeah, adaptors are bad for anything moving. The connection will fatigue and introduce noise and static over time.
You're a UA-cam influencer. Reach out to both GoPro and Insta360. Mention the concerns with each company's product for your needs. You're not the only motorcyclist that uses action cameras by far, so they SHOULD listen. They might ask you to test some changes even to help improve things. GoPro probably just needs to tweak their software to work better. The audio dongle was replaced by the media mod, which basically wraps the dongle around the whole camera, lol. Insta360 would need to redesign their mic adaptor and possibly their noise reduction in their software.
I hope you can quickly settle into a setup that works well for you. I like the idea of the modular camera Insta360 is doing. You can just take it off your helmet and mount it elsewhere for some 360 action. But that will probably mean you go micless unless you get a wireless mic, which might solve some of your issues (but $$$). Wait for the DJI if you do. The Rode is nice, but the DJI looks really good, IMO.
I used to work in the AV business in trade shows, doing sound, computer projection, etc. Plus I used to be a semi-pro musician (hobbyist for a very long time now, tho), so I'm into the gear stuff. I like the occasional gear vid and refitting your new lid was a perfect opportunity to nerd out with us. Sorry for yet another epic comment from MNB. lol
So, I didn't think the initial audio was too bad, maybe not as good as your older setup, but not bad. That being said, I use a gopro hero 6 still, and the gopro mic adapter. But I have really good luck with the giant Squid mic. I'm by no means trying to just grab views, but check out one of my videos to see what you think of the audio. It's a pretty cheap mic and might be worth testing out with your new insta setup.
I think the first audio test was fine, but I would add a deadcat to your mic to minimize wind noise. The second test was much more muffled. I would not choose that mic
The audio sounds good quality, it's the wind noise you have to control with some of that cat hair stuff
Video quality looks great too👍
I had a real problem with Hero5 and that stupid block mic adapter. I kept dropping my audio. I stopped using the 5 and went back old school like Shadetree and starting using my 4.
@Her Two Wheels check out turtle beach Mic options with their headsets they are typically long and adjustable!
After experiencing some issues with my GoPro I also looked into getting the RS. I really hope the toy can figure out a good solution with it so you can have a reliable set up
I can’t wait to see how you get on with the insta 360..I’m looking at buying my first action camera and need an honest first hand review of it without all the BS that comes with a lot of the other sponsored UA-camrs..! In short I know you’ll say it how it is and if it’s a worthy camera..👍
Hey Jess, did you have the camera set to wind reduction or stereo for audio in these tests?
I tested both
The video was good with the rockform camera the audio picked up wind noise but not real bad..you didn't mention if the shield was down or not..probably was down. So if the shield was down air turbulence was coming up around your chin and the Mike was picking it up in the background but did not override your voice which was perfectly clear and loud. Maybe some sort of wind deflector around the bottom of the helmet would lessen the wind noise ...you may be able to quiet it down with a scarf around your neck to help block out the wind from entering the inside of the helmet, but it wouldn't be very comfortable in the summer heat. All in all it really wasn't as bad as some others I have heard on videos. The stability of the video was great . You had mentioned you could see the camera moving about in front of your face...but it did not show in the actual video. I would give it a 8.5 out of 10 over all. But it's up to you. I did notice at some point the wind noise did get somewhat quieter and it may be because you were looking slightly down and closed off the opening under the helmet some. I'm sure you will come up with remedy to quiet the background noises more. Also you didn't mention if you had replaced the cheek padding before taking hour ride. No doubt in my mind that you will get it all figured out.
Love the camera. Sounds great.
Question why the red helmet?? If you are going Oppa. Why not a white helmet with the arrow like the last air bender??
The GoPro Media Mod is very helpful for mic setup and power.
Great camera choice I have been using Insta 360 on my channel since last september I have 3 of them now including Inch sensor mic adapter is much smaller on One RS regarding helmet I would never get Ruroc 😁
I’m just want to say thank you to investing in more equipment to make your videos with better quality to us. Greetings from El Paso TX.
Sorry you have had issues with the Gopro. I have never experienced issues with mine yet but I am running the hero 9. Agree with the Mic adapter part though they could make it small just like the 360 cam one you showed. Would be frustrating thinking recorded something awesome and found it missing or damaged.
I just got my insta360 RS Twin this week, ready for the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride but haven't had time yet to hook up to my bike. I noticed in the Insta360 Studio under Media Processing\True Audio there's a noise reduction feature. Not sure what that exactly does but maybe that's what we're looking for?
I like your videos even if cruisers are of next to zero interest for me, even the R18 and I am a BMW guy! Keep up the good work.
I hear you regarding the GoPro lack of reliability and completely agree. I have a GoPro Hero & Black that has locked up on me at inopportune times during a motorcycle tour and I lost opportunities to record because I could not turn on the camera or it locked up while recording. And don't get me started about the GoPro Remote - POS. Never reconnects when turned on.
So I got a Insta360 ONE RS with the 4K Boost lens and tried it for motovlogging. I had the Insta360 ONE R with the 360 lens mod and it never locked up so it appears to be totally relaible hence the purchase of the RS. So far I am encouraged and have no issues with the audio although I rate the GoPro audio slightly better as it comes out slightly fuller, while the sound from the RS seems to be slightly sharper. That may actually be better for voice and certainly can be post processed if desired. You certainly sounded fine in this video - nice and clear - and for me the sound was definitely better than when you used the Sena mic. That sounded muffled. Stabilization and colour redition on the RS is great and is comparable to my GoPro. I will be doing a comparison video on my channel soon.
I got myself a brand new helmet it a Scorpion Exo T1200 mainstay white Touring I added gopro hero5 black and housing holds 📷 is a Ulanzi and chin mount I use sugru moldable glue & added Cardo packtalk bold black and I added a Steel Mate helmet light too! Mrs Jess
its killing me that its not center!!!!!! but the video audio and anti vibration look and sound awesome. Hopefully it works better for you.
I doubled up on the tape to the helmet and it fell off on the way to an event. I ended up using expoxy that the HD dealer had. It works but not pretty.. have you thought about using the Ruroc camera mount itself?? I have one but didn’t put it on yet. A bit cleaner than the arm. Thoughts? Btw both audio were pretty good, but yeah the second is cleaner with background noise.
That must be your artwork behind you, right? The woman with the antlers? It’s awesome!
Yep!
Hey Jess! I'm torn between an indian Rogue Scout (22 and new) or a 2018 triumph speedmaster with 8k miles from a random dealer. The indian rogue has been on order a month and no idea when it will be delivered so I'm antsy and want to ride. Ive had my license for 6 years but this is my first bike. Thank you!
Audio on the first mic was only just passable on the freeway but it was fine in urban riding, I thought the second mic while not perfect was considerably better on the freeway, could you reach out to Insta 360 for possible solutions? There must be some forums you could browse for ideas too
My GoPro setup can be a bit wonky too. On the 8 I use the media mod and make sure everything is updated. I think GoPro doesn't play well with android as well. The work your doing to get us great video is appreciated.
Image stability is good. Paused the video and did a sceen shot. Focus is good also. ( 63 in a 55 🤔😁) Shame Radio Shack went out of business. Going to have to do some web searches for a mic that is what you need.