Artisanal games gain popularity because they offer genuine enjoyment, filling the void left by a lack of compelling AAA titles. Players immerse themselves in these experiences until new ones emerge, understanding that not every game requires endless hours of playtime. Additionally, "fad games" typically range from $10 to $40, deviating from the standard $60 price tag. In the early 2000s to the mid-2010s, major studio developers could invest genuine care into their creations, fostering natural passion despite occasional deadline pressures. While some imperfections may have existed, most games were far from being half-baked. However, today, every AAA studio is micromanaged by corporate suits, prioritizing profit extraction over delivering enjoyable gameplay experiences. They often disregard whether their $60+ game, which often resembles a slot machine, is polished enough.
@@ISO_ROBOT what ever over the year i just realize that keeping up with live services game is really tiring or maybe i'm just getting old I hope the banger start of this year smaller studio release and absolute dissaster of big budget "QUADRUPLE A" release will change the direction of gaming I like fun unhinged game not all this woke inclusive shit big company force in the game
@@Rat_Fบcker oh yeah totally forgot about that dumpster fire skull and bones. They had no vision with that game. It might have been a really good idea when they originally conceived it back in 2014. These corporate bastards will never learn what gamers want. Just dumb silly fun.
I agree with you, fun game is more important when it comes down to it. But what happens when every game has a good or unique idea, but neglected the polish or depth? I'm afraid this is a trend that is only going to get worse over time. I'm less concerned about retention and more for my wallet and who I'm playing with. When the novelty of one game wears off everyone else moves on to the next game and I have to follow to keep playing with my friends. I'm not going to find new friends to play a different game every time a new game comes out that's unsustainable. Or vice versa when I'm interested in a new game concept not all of my friends follow.. do you see the dilemma? It almost falls into the concept of fragmentation. Which really sucks. Thing is helldivers is going to be an exception for me I'm going to stick with it regardless of who's playing it.
@BOT I dont want polish or depth. I want reactivity. gabe newell put it best when discussing realism. think about it this way: if you are paying 40$ for 3 months of good gaming experience, you got a deal, especially compared to the 70$+ and microtransactions that entertain a AAA game for what, 2 weeks before everyone leaves? I personally think this is the way for gaming. there is nothing to worry about because these indie devs know: "if a game isn't good, then nobody will play it." so they make their art entertaining. I dont want constant updates. I want a complete package. I still play unmodded Combat Evolved often. it never gets old. that's because it's a GOOD GAME.
@@KeyboardTarantula again I couldn't agree more with your statements and agree that the modding is a godsend for gaming on PC. Lethal is phenomenal with mods by a long shot. But is it too much to ask for both? Like a non broken game at launch? Or something that retains people who play the game even after the novelty of the game wears off? I'm curious why bigger game franchises don't make something original.
@@KeyboardTarantula that's fair. Good concepts are pretty good either way. If I had to pick one I would definitely go for original games, or fun experiences.
The lethal company comment is weird. Game isn't half baked or missing content. It's a game made by a solo dev. Like you can only expect so much content from a game of that size.
Im not sure how Helldivers 2 is a “fad” game as its basically the same gameplay loop as the first game but better looking and 3rd person. The 1st game was actually a niche game with a fairly low player base. Even the devs didnt expect the overwhelmingly positive reception the 2nd game has had. Also Helldivers 2 is a prime example of what a live service game should be. Other dev studios need to take a few.. i mean all off the notes they can from Helldivers 2. Palworld is a great game game, why? Well it takes aspects and ideas that actual worked and were fun from other games and mashed them together to make a good game. It’s not a “fad” its just a good game that uses a bunch of ideas from other games. Plenty of other games, movies, TV shows and music, basically all kinds of media do this all the time. If you look at popular things in all media formats you can see what works and what doesn’t. The smart people see these things and say “hey I’m gonna use that in my thing” what ever that may be. Things are popular for a reason. I mean theres a saying that I use quite a lot “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and when it comes to games that couldn’t be more true.
For democracy brother! I really hope my friends are playing this a year from now. I know what kind of awesome content the developers have in store. I played the first one long ago and my one friend was really hyped for it. My other friend refuses to let lethal company die and has been going out of his way to mod the crap out of it. But I think at least in Lethal company sake that eventually it will fall out of favor for the next shiny object.
@@ISO_ROBOT Lethal Company is not a live service game... That's like saying "I hope i get to play final fantasy X non-stop for 15 years". At some point you finish the game?? On top of the fact that it's EA. Think about your "argument" for 2 seconds before making a video about it and you'd realize how useless the entire thing is.
These kind of gems aren't fad because they are flavors of the month or such in my opinion. They are good games at their core. The reason they are so successful is that we are at a point when AAA games are basically just...not good for the most part. They cost a lot and don't really have the fun they should in them. There's a hungry void for good solid gameplay that's not trying to message anything, not trying to be something it's not, and not hyping itself up. It's just out, and they are solid games. And the hungry void of players like us devour them.
Yes, that is correct. Keeping up with game of the month is exhausting. Like I said about helldivers. It's a breath of fresh air because it has really good potential to be a mainstay. Plus the free marketing the game gets helps.
I feel its less of a fad and more of a retention problem. Lethal failed at keeping the audience entertained after several games with sparse updates and an unforgiving system that did not reward survival. The game was fun with experiences made by friends such that they generated the content. Sea of Thieves was a money grab that had potential, but never left the early acess phase. I feel Hell Divers 2 sort of breaks the mold a bit. HD2 has caught lightning in a bottle and has an elaborate contraption set up to reuse and harness that lightning. Hell Divers 2 If successful will implement constant updates to keep players playing with it's intriguing premise, gunplay, abilities, and player driven lore (Malevelon Creek, GantztheDemon, and liberation percentages). The fact that it's set up like a war, the percentage system, the community representation in every part of the game, it feels different and game changing unlike any fad game seen before. I really hope we have a Halo predecessor on our hands.
Yes yes right here. And helldivers is going to be that rare exception. If it builds itself out like the original game we may have a mainstay on our hands.
i played the game, its def a game that im gonna continue playing because i like fight hordes of enemies and having Spotify in the background. though i do think it will lose players ofter the hype i just hope it keeps getting updates
Not really. The message I get from this video is, that the creator does not understand that not all games are meant to be played religiously. It kinda feels like whatever happens to a game, someone will see "line go down" and proclaim the end of the world
@@asdafagl9098 I don't think the lack of time you can spend is an issue with the game. It isn't a bad game but I think it is an issue how people are saying it over shadows AAA games when it isn't anywhere near complete. I think agree in the part of the video where it goes over about early access games and I forgot why I made this comment. I don't think the servers being down is a problem though, idk why it's mentioned it was to be expected.
Personally I liked sea of thieves when it was new, and rare has this thing with music and the visuals are fantastic. What killed it for me was the inch of depth the game had. I disagree there. But emphatically agree about helldivers not being a fad game. I did call it King of the month after all ;) But it has that fervor that other fad games have but the game is too deep and has an excellent plan for it to stay relevant and the players doing hilarious roleplay doing free advertising for the game. Arrowhead will likely be like iron gate with valheim and deep Rock galactic. I'm excited for them.
very interesting video! I had these ideas too. With palworld, I think it came out too soon, they have to much content "in the pipeline". For helldivers, I think its going to go far!
According to Pocket Pair, they had no choice but to release Palworld as it was. They developed it until they were out of money and going to go bankrupt. If true then it's understandable why they couldn't let it cook in the oven any longer.
@@blackmark2899 With that context, it had to. And i mean, it made storms! Everyone bought it. I bought it for my friend who was skeptical. Fingers crossed it lasts as updates come!
Lol yeah 300k is still a lot. At least compared to other games. I was just being hyperbolic when I said dead. It's more like "initial interest is down from its peak." But that doesn't make for very a interesting phrase. I think palworld has the potential to be a long-term game unlike its predecessor Tem Tem.
@@ISO_ROBOT Thats every game though, almsot every single time when a game is realeased or has an update, those would be the most popular peaks for that game.
i like the opinions.... but if they're not gonna be spicy or inflammatory or give me pause for thought... then just add more opinions. or less time getting to your opinions. felt like you dilly dallied even on 2x
Yeah sorry about the pace of the video. That is one of the things that I noticed while I was editing it. I still haven't come up with a format that I want to make videos with. Appreciate the comment it helps me a better content. ;)
appreciate the response! This video was one of those where I agree with something I hadn't thought of before, so kudos. Coming up with this kind of stuff is hard, so good job and good luck! @@ISO_ROBOT
I feel like I should point out they’re only “fad games” if their player base dies. Among us still has players, lethal company still has a community, and palworld is still in development and still has players.
Fad does not mean bad, it just means popular for a moment and then everyone stops talking about it. Do we still talk about among us? People still play it.. The memes are still with us. How about phasmaphobia? Would you call fortnite a fad game for being popular? Do you see what I'm getting at?
@@TheSoCanadian Please reaserch some more. Arrowhead has expanded their studio over the past 8 years afaik to over or around 100 employees. I also believe this is thanks to sony backing as well, since the game was developed as a sony exclusive in the first place. ArrowHead was the studio that announced it was AAA, no one else.
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Artisanal games gain popularity because they offer genuine enjoyment, filling the void left by a lack of compelling AAA titles. Players immerse themselves in these experiences until new ones emerge, understanding that not every game requires endless hours of playtime. Additionally, "fad games" typically range from $10 to $40, deviating from the standard $60 price tag.
In the early 2000s to the mid-2010s, major studio developers could invest genuine care into their creations, fostering natural passion despite occasional deadline pressures. While some imperfections may have existed, most games were far from being half-baked. However, today, every AAA studio is micromanaged by corporate suits, prioritizing profit extraction over delivering enjoyable gameplay experiences. They often disregard whether their $60+ game, which often resembles a slot machine, is polished enough.
Way too early too label helldivers as a fad game
It's why I called it King of the month. ;)
Eh, I could see it. I'm sure all the people who played Pal World and Lethal Company would have said thr same thing if this vid came out back then.
I'd rather this than another PVP live services battle pass
Agreed. Hopefully helldivers inspires 343 to make a Halo version of something like this.
@@ISO_ROBOT what ever over the year i just realize that keeping up with live services game is really tiring or maybe i'm just getting old
I hope the banger start of this year smaller studio release and absolute dissaster of big budget "QUADRUPLE A" release will change the direction of gaming
I like fun unhinged game not all this woke inclusive shit big company force in the game
@@Rat_Fบcker oh yeah totally forgot about that dumpster fire skull and bones. They had no vision with that game. It might have been a really good idea when they originally conceived it back in 2014. These corporate bastards will never learn what gamers want. Just dumb silly fun.
Palworld is a fad game. Lethal company is slowly falling off. Helldivers is a way of life.
Our brothers must hold the line for managed democracy!
these aren't "fad" games, they are FUN games. they are making good impressions. a game doesn't need to last. it just needs to be cool.
I agree with you, fun game is more important when it comes down to it.
But what happens when every game has a good or unique idea, but neglected the polish or depth? I'm afraid this is a trend that is only going to get worse over time. I'm less concerned about retention and more for my wallet and who I'm playing with. When the novelty of one game wears off everyone else moves on to the next game and I have to follow to keep playing with my friends. I'm not going to find new friends to play a different game every time a new game comes out that's unsustainable. Or vice versa when I'm interested in a new game concept not all of my friends follow.. do you see the dilemma? It almost falls into the concept of fragmentation. Which really sucks.
Thing is helldivers is going to be an exception for me I'm going to stick with it regardless of who's playing it.
@BOT I dont want polish or depth. I want reactivity. gabe newell put it best when discussing realism. think about it this way: if you are paying 40$ for 3 months of good gaming experience, you got a deal, especially compared to the 70$+ and microtransactions that entertain a AAA game for what, 2 weeks before everyone leaves? I personally think this is the way for gaming. there is nothing to worry about because these indie devs know: "if a game isn't good, then nobody will play it." so they make their art entertaining. I dont want constant updates. I want a complete package. I still play unmodded Combat Evolved often. it never gets old. that's because it's a GOOD GAME.
@@KeyboardTarantula again I couldn't agree more with your statements and agree that the modding is a godsend for gaming on PC. Lethal is phenomenal with mods by a long shot.
But is it too much to ask for both? Like a non broken game at launch? Or something that retains people who play the game even after the novelty of the game wears off?
I'm curious why bigger game franchises don't make something original.
@@ISO_ROBOT probably is too much to ask for both.
@@KeyboardTarantula that's fair. Good concepts are pretty good either way. If I had to pick one I would definitely go for original games, or fun experiences.
The lethal company comment is weird. Game isn't half baked or missing content. It's a game made by a solo dev. Like you can only expect so much content from a game of that size.
Half baked is palworld. (For a valid reason)
Lethal is shallow and modding keeps it going with new content. Thank God we have mods like mimics. ;)
Im not sure how Helldivers 2 is a “fad” game as its basically the same gameplay loop as the first game but better looking and 3rd person. The 1st game was actually a niche game with a fairly low player base. Even the devs didnt expect the overwhelmingly positive reception the 2nd game has had. Also Helldivers 2 is a prime example of what a live service game should be. Other dev studios need to take a few.. i mean all off the notes they can from Helldivers 2.
Palworld is a great game game, why? Well it takes aspects and ideas that actual worked and were fun from other games and mashed them together to make a good game. It’s not a “fad” its just a good game that uses a bunch of ideas from other games. Plenty of other games, movies, TV shows and music, basically all kinds of media do this all the time. If you look at popular things in all media formats you can see what works and what doesn’t. The smart people see these things and say “hey I’m gonna use that in my thing” what ever that may be. Things are popular for a reason. I mean theres a saying that I use quite a lot “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and when it comes to games that couldn’t be more true.
For democracy brother! I really hope my friends are playing this a year from now. I know what kind of awesome content the developers have in store. I played the first one long ago and my one friend was really hyped for it.
My other friend refuses to let lethal company die and has been going out of his way to mod the crap out of it. But I think at least in Lethal company sake that eventually it will fall out of favor for the next shiny object.
@@ISO_ROBOT Lethal Company is not a live service game... That's like saying "I hope i get to play final fantasy X non-stop for 15 years". At some point you finish the game??
On top of the fact that it's EA. Think about your "argument" for 2 seconds before making a video about it and you'd realize how useless the entire thing is.
These kind of gems aren't fad because they are flavors of the month or such in my opinion. They are good games at their core. The reason they are so successful is that we are at a point when AAA games are basically just...not good for the most part. They cost a lot and don't really have the fun they should in them. There's a hungry void for good solid gameplay that's not trying to message anything, not trying to be something it's not, and not hyping itself up. It's just out, and they are solid games. And the hungry void of players like us devour them.
Not every game can stay on top forever. Most of these are still popular.
Yes, that is correct. Keeping up with game of the month is exhausting. Like I said about helldivers. It's a breath of fresh air because it has really good potential to be a mainstay. Plus the free marketing the game gets helps.
I feel its less of a fad and more of a retention problem. Lethal failed at keeping the audience entertained after several games with sparse updates and an unforgiving system that did not reward survival. The game was fun with experiences made by friends such that they generated the content. Sea of Thieves was a money grab that had potential, but never left the early acess phase. I feel Hell Divers 2 sort of breaks the mold a bit. HD2 has caught lightning in a bottle and has an elaborate contraption set up to reuse and harness that lightning. Hell Divers 2 If successful will implement constant updates to keep players playing with it's intriguing premise, gunplay, abilities, and player driven lore (Malevelon Creek, GantztheDemon, and liberation percentages). The fact that it's set up like a war, the percentage system, the community representation in every part of the game, it feels different and game changing unlike any fad game seen before. I really hope we have a Halo predecessor on our hands.
Yes yes right here. And helldivers is going to be that rare exception. If it builds itself out like the original game we may have a mainstay on our hands.
i played the game, its def a game that im gonna continue playing because i like fight hordes of enemies and having Spotify in the background. though i do think it will lose players ofter the hype i just hope it keeps getting updates
idrk if you even said anything at all
Not really. The message I get from this video is, that the creator does not understand that not all games are meant to be played religiously. It kinda feels like whatever happens to a game, someone will see "line go down" and proclaim the end of the world
Yes I spoke in binary. I'm suprised you didn't understand. I'll try better next time ;)
@@asdafagl9098 I don't think the lack of time you can spend is an issue with the game. It isn't a bad game but I think it is an issue how people are saying it over shadows AAA games when it isn't anywhere near complete. I think agree in the part of the video where it goes over about early access games and I forgot why I made this comment.
I don't think the servers being down is a problem though, idk why it's mentioned it was to be expected.
OK sea of thieves is still a popular game and it’s way too early to call helldivers a fad
Personally I liked sea of thieves when it was new, and rare has this thing with music and the visuals are fantastic. What killed it for me was the inch of depth the game had. I disagree there. But emphatically agree about helldivers not being a fad game. I did call it King of the month after all ;) But it has that fervor that other fad games have but the game is too deep and has an excellent plan for it to stay relevant and the players doing hilarious roleplay doing free advertising for the game. Arrowhead will likely be like iron gate with valheim and deep Rock galactic. I'm excited for them.
Although I'll be playing helldiver's 2 on and off for a while, I do tend to agree with most of what you have to say 💪
very interesting video! I had these ideas too. With palworld, I think it came out too soon, they have to much content "in the pipeline". For helldivers, I think its going to go far!
Yeah funny story is that palworld is what triggered me to make this video in the first place. lol
According to Pocket Pair, they had no choice but to release Palworld as it was. They developed it until they were out of money and going to go bankrupt. If true then it's understandable why they couldn't let it cook in the oven any longer.
@@blackmark2899 With that context, it had to. And i mean, it made storms! Everyone bought it. I bought it for my friend who was skeptical. Fingers crossed it lasts as updates come!
Define dead beacuse having 300,00 current players is extremely good. 😂
Lol yeah 300k is still a lot. At least compared to other games. I was just being hyperbolic when I said dead. It's more like "initial interest is down from its peak." But that doesn't make for very a interesting phrase. I think palworld has the potential to be a long-term game unlike its predecessor Tem Tem.
I could see a lot of people jumping ship once the next "king" comes out
@@ISO_ROBOT Thats every game though, almsot every single time when a game is realeased or has an update, those would be the most popular peaks for that game.
I like hearing other's opinions. Stay committed and you'll go far my man.
Wow how original you made your video❤ Haven’t see anything like this. Can’t believe it. Keep your originality 🎉
I would have watched this video if the title didn’t refer to a vague “it” and have all those hashtags tbh
A shame you didn't bother watching it. You might have agreed. I'll get ya next time brother ;)
i like the opinions.... but if they're not gonna be spicy or inflammatory or give me pause for thought... then just add more opinions. or less time getting to your opinions. felt like you dilly dallied even on 2x
Yeah sorry about the pace of the video. That is one of the things that I noticed while I was editing it. I still haven't come up with a format that I want to make videos with. Appreciate the comment it helps me a better content. ;)
appreciate the response! This video was one of those where I agree with something I hadn't thought of before, so kudos. Coming up with this kind of stuff is hard, so good job and good luck! @@ISO_ROBOT
Are good games bad for the industry? No
You are labeling the wrong games. This better applies to stuff like the finals.
It does, just some general commentary.
I feel like I should point out they’re only “fad games” if their player base dies. Among us still has players, lethal company still has a community, and palworld is still in development and still has players.
Fad does not mean bad, it just means popular for a moment and then everyone stops talking about it. Do we still talk about among us? People still play it.. The memes are still with us. How about phasmaphobia? Would you call fortnite a fad game for being popular? Do you see what I'm getting at?
Dont get it twisted. Helldivers 2 is NOT an indie game. It is AAA. Afaik, ArrowHead mentioned themselves that it had an 8 year development cycle.
It is Double A. Arrowhead is NOT a triple A studio and if you think its based on how much development time they get thats just silly
@@TheSoCanadian Please reaserch some more. Arrowhead has expanded their studio over the past 8 years afaik to over or around 100 employees. I also believe this is thanks to sony backing as well, since the game was developed as a sony exclusive in the first place. ArrowHead was the studio that announced it was AAA, no one else.
helldivers is allready dead in my opinion its already kinda lost its spark
How so
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