You can do it with uppercuts too. Let the uppercut go a little higher than you otherwise would, like slightly above your head and arc it back into the high guard position
I have that issue where im resistant to anything that challenges my orthodoxy on anything and sometimes even get irritated. Ive found the only thing that neutralzies that anger is a detailed and logical breakdown on why something is superior. Once i can actually see the logic behind it in its entirety, then I can happily adopt it.
What makes a technique “superior” isn’t the technique itself most of the time, but when and how you use it. Spar and experiment. If just learning a technique is maddening you’re gonna be really upset when you gotta fight someone
@@jacksonrolles2706yes true but OP specifically was saying it isn't learning a technique but the reasoning behind it and how their mind works when it comes to piquing their interest. If it is just blindly learning a "stir the pot" hook without context, OP is saying they would maybe be irritated on why they would or should want to learn that anyway. Given details and perhaps even demonstration as to how a different way of movement might potentially win you a fight, OP might show excitement towards the newfound possibilities presented. Explaining it makes OP seem like they might not be doing their part by staying passionate, curious or humble as a student wanting to truly expand themselves in physical prowess. I think that is not true. Their passion would burn more if just given reasoning, even small ones. Not die down.
@@LaztheLax Very well explained point that speaks to something that's rarely spoken about. A lot of the problems in education stem from a refusal to acknowledge that the teachers methods need to be challenged and therefore "improved" or adapted just as much as the students. Their craft as a teacher is seperate to the craft they are trying to teach and most get very defensive when questioned; if they are the student they know less about this craft so why waste the effort of taking it seriously if you "know" they're wrong when you can just threaten to not teach them. But surely learning between people is a give take relationship where your ability to teach anyone anything only improves if you're learning from their interest in it and how they view it? You could almost say we are all both teacher and student and that it is only throwing our ignorance at someone and trying to the understand the ignorance we think we recieve that we both can change and adapt. Very hard to to this in a classroom or office where time is money and you've very little obligation or ability to learn from someone if you keep getting paid or keep passing exams regardless.
I get the resistance to new information. But I think something to think about/consider is that “logic” for combat sports (especially striking sports) is based largely on opinion and anecdotal evidence.
This is literally how I taught myself how to throw a proper hook a couple years ago. I didn’t know it was called “stirring the pot” but what helped me throw it better was understanding that you have to actually HOOK the punch. I don’t really know how to explain it but the “traditional” way hooks are taught didn’t work for me. It was hard for me to learn it the traditional way (if you’ve practiced boxing you know what I’m talking about) so I just started doing what FEELS right.
I love using the check hook did that the other day at mauy tai It’s like stirring the pot at the very last second with a straight jab very confusing for your opponent to understand
@@dillonwolcott7655 Joe Frazier would throw it out of his constant bob and weave smokin style. It was viscous. He knocked Ali down with it. It’s an odd lead punch coming from that angle.
You can do it with uppercuts too. Let the uppercut go a little higher than you otherwise would, like slightly above your head and arc it back into the high guard position
I actually do this. But I never used it for a hook LOL
Bro, you connect things in unusual but easy ways...OUTSTANDING!
I have that issue where im resistant to anything that challenges my orthodoxy on anything and sometimes even get irritated.
Ive found the only thing that neutralzies that anger is a detailed and logical breakdown on why something is superior. Once i can actually see the logic behind it in its entirety, then I can happily adopt it.
What makes a technique “superior” isn’t the technique itself most of the time, but when and how you use it. Spar and experiment. If just learning a technique is maddening you’re gonna be really upset when you gotta fight someone
@@jacksonrolles2706yes true but OP specifically was saying it isn't learning a technique but the reasoning behind it and how their mind works when it comes to piquing their interest. If it is just blindly learning a "stir the pot" hook without context, OP is saying they would maybe be irritated on why they would or should want to learn that anyway.
Given details and perhaps even demonstration as to how a different way of movement might potentially win you a fight, OP might show excitement towards the newfound possibilities presented. Explaining it makes OP seem like they might not be doing their part by staying passionate, curious or humble as a student wanting to truly expand themselves in physical prowess.
I think that is not true. Their passion would burn more if just given reasoning, even small ones.
Not die down.
@@LaztheLax Very well explained point that speaks to something that's rarely spoken about. A lot of the problems in education stem from a refusal to acknowledge that the teachers methods need to be challenged and therefore "improved" or adapted just as much as the students.
Their craft as a teacher is seperate to the craft they are trying to teach and most get very defensive when questioned; if they are the student they know less about this craft so why waste the effort of taking it seriously if you "know" they're wrong when you can just threaten to not teach them.
But surely learning between people is a give take relationship where your ability to teach anyone anything only improves if you're learning from their interest in it and how they view it?
You could almost say we are all both teacher and student and that it is only throwing our ignorance at someone and trying to the understand the ignorance we think we recieve that we both can change and adapt.
Very hard to to this in a classroom or office where time is money and you've very little obligation or ability to learn from someone if you keep getting paid or keep passing exams regardless.
I like how you went from one way to teaching a hook, to another. You're a great guy!!! Always evolving!! Keep up the amazing work
Rafael Fiziev probably the cleanest hook I ever seen in a fight. I personally like stir the pot better than spoon to the mouth based off my build.
Never heard of stirring the pot before, im going to use that.
I get the resistance to new information. But I think something to think about/consider is that “logic” for combat sports (especially striking sports) is based largely on opinion and anecdotal evidence.
This is literally how I taught myself how to throw a proper hook a couple years ago. I didn’t know it was called “stirring the pot” but what helped me throw it better was understanding that you have to actually HOOK the punch. I don’t really know how to explain it but the “traditional” way hooks are taught didn’t work for me. It was hard for me to learn it the traditional way (if you’ve practiced boxing you know what I’m talking about) so I just started doing what FEELS right.
Been carrying a mouth guard ever since you said.
I love using the check hook did that the other day at mauy tai It’s like stirring the pot at the very last second with a straight jab very confusing for your opponent to understand
This just put it together for me thank u
Yo Shane!
"That's not how I was taught..." that's probably how it works lol
WTF... this makes so much sense!
Shane: be careful of online information
Also Shane: So anyway here’s my online course
Fast is better than free! MAGNVS filters out the bs.
I heard that if you do that with the hook you can tear your bicep? Is it true or i got bamboozled?
Throw in a squat duck shoulder roll then lung forward while you throw it Joe Frazier style
Duck and roll into a leaping lead hook. I like that
@@dillonwolcott7655 Joe Frazier would throw it out of his constant bob and weave smokin style. It was viscous. He knocked Ali down with it. It’s an odd lead punch coming from that angle.
I will defenitely will use that today
Those caption transitions are annoying, how is this legible?
Snatch it back as you snap back a jab type muscle memory
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Go checkout Alex Pereira’s biomechanics
OMG 👎 this guy actually thinks his a pro fighter show us how you take a real punch, not fake punch the air