Drinker's Chasers - Kotaku Tries Journalisming, Gets Hilariously Destroyed

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  • Опубліковано 7 бер 2024
  • Cometh the hour, cometh the videogame "journalists" ready to attack gamers at any opportunity. And in this case, it was Kotaku's hilarious attempts to debunk the Sweet Baby Inc narrative.
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  • @Jonathan_Collins
    @Jonathan_Collins 2 місяці тому +1206

    Fun fact: The author of that Kotaku article recently claimed on their twitter that you can't be racist against white people, really explains why she's defending SBI's CEO.

    • @Halsyan
      @Halsyan 2 місяці тому +82

      Fun fact: you can't be racist to furries.

    • @Silenthero66
      @Silenthero66 2 місяці тому +165

      The second she says that literally any and all legitimacy of the article goes up in smoke.

    • @ephraimwinslow
      @ephraimwinslow 2 місяці тому +61

      100$ says SBI's founder has an adopted "trans baby" in 5~ years.

    • @Korschtal
      @Korschtal 2 місяці тому

      "you can't be racist against white people"
      That's Critical Race Theory; it claims that it's not possible to be racist against white people but they also claim "to be white is to be racist"; they claim all white people are racist, without exception.
      If you're thinking this is a racist statement then you are being far too sensible and need to get reprogramming.

    • @nmr7203
      @nmr7203 2 місяці тому +36

      We're doomed as a species

  • @84C4
    @84C4 2 місяці тому +250

    Customers: "Here's a list of places that use excrement in their food, so you can best avoid them".
    Kotaku: "This is incorrect, did you know that excrement isn't the only thing that can make food taste bad? Don't be a simpleton, you hatemonger. Women and minorities like this food, let them have it!"
    Customers: "I didn't ask about those other things and other people can eat whatever they want, I just don't want shit on my plate".

  • @travisthompson1679
    @travisthompson1679 2 місяці тому +119

    "I was booted from the Discord because I identified myself as a Kotaku journalist." Based.

    • @greghannibal
      @greghannibal 2 місяці тому +23

      As a game journalist I engaged with a gaming community for the first time...

    • @Jasper_Silva
      @Jasper_Silva 2 місяці тому +14

      Really uncool for the Discord to not be inclusive of mental illness like that.

    • @WEKM
      @WEKM 2 місяці тому

      I'm shocked. This is my shocked face. 😐

  • @LivingFire_BurningFlame
    @LivingFire_BurningFlame 2 місяці тому +790

    So a "picky baby" won’t accept her ideology but a "sweet baby" complies and accepts it? Creepy and condescending at the same time.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +99

      And to think Alec Holowka's, who unalived himself after being witch hunted for things he didn't do because of Zoe Quinn, sister took money from his company after he died to help fund this. These people are evil and vile.

    • @Silenthero66
      @Silenthero66 2 місяці тому +55

      She sees the world as just babies and the only difference is whether you're sweet and compliant, or "picky" and actually rebellious against this shit.

    • @cmc5394oparva
      @cmc5394oparva 2 місяці тому +40

      Plus the fact she's admitting that a "picky baby" won't consume her poison, but a "sweet baby" will drink it and die.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +36

      @@Silenthero66 She's a total narcissist, they all are. I'd rather support the single dev who made Lethal Company than any AAA studio these days.

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 2 місяці тому +12

      For manga fans, *Akira Toriyama* (Dragon Ball) just passed away.

  • @tylergoodman3560
    @tylergoodman3560 2 місяці тому +760

    They aren't journalists, they're political activists who're trying to score diversity points. 🎉

    • @classreductionist
      @classreductionist 2 місяці тому

      @@id2k. Rittenhouse is a psychopath who just happened to kill some violent criminals and was able to get away with it.

    • @Easy-Eight
      @Easy-Eight 2 місяці тому

      @@id2k. we do nothing. We don't even shove them. BLM and ANTIFA can do anything to anybody. The left can destroy anything they want. When are we going to be men and give some back to them?

    • @wvanyar1801
      @wvanyar1801 2 місяці тому +11

      I hope those woke points can be traded in for real money, so they can pay their bills.

    • @HowToChangeName
      @HowToChangeName 2 місяці тому +7

      They deserve Nobel award for their publication, forget about investigative journalist and warzone reporter. Their mental suffering on twitter is life changing horror

    • @SusanPederson
      @SusanPederson 2 місяці тому

      I read that as political activist hoes!😂

  • @Jasper_Silva
    @Jasper_Silva 2 місяці тому +103

    I love that Kotaku kinda figures the only audience they have are people composed 93% of soy, so they talk about some normal discord group as if they are a war reporter broadcasting from enemy territory, sharing their barbaric ways. "They share pictures of... **gasp** idealized women!"

    • @cortholiopezorama8879
      @cortholiopezorama8879 2 місяці тому +27

      “And worst of all, they like it. “

    • @casualcausalityy
      @casualcausalityy 2 місяці тому +16

      It's crazy how few men are working in gaming "journalism", and how little these female "experts" seem to know or care about gaming

    • @IgorManenica
      @IgorManenica 2 місяці тому +2

      😂++++

  • @kron520
    @kron520 2 місяці тому +311

    The group was at ~5000 before all this nonsense. It's over 200000 now.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +64

      If Steam were to ban it at this point, you'd just see 50 more curator lists targeting these companies pop up. Let's hope gamers can do what movie fans couldn't and root this sickness out by depriving it of funds.

    • @Fluke2Win
      @Fluke2Win 2 місяці тому +28

      I'm doing my part!

    • @bilson7523
      @bilson7523 2 місяці тому +34

      It's the Streisand Effect demonstrated perfectly.

    • @bilson7523
      @bilson7523 2 місяці тому +33

      ​@@Bonesawisready926Yeah, that's why I don't think Steam is going to do anything. The group isn't actually going against ToS, and Steam knows if they jump on this bandwagon, it'll be beyond their ability to handle in 24 hours.
      Steam is doing exactly what Kotaku should have done: Ignore the problem hoping it'll fizzle out eventually.

    • @croaton07
      @croaton07 2 місяці тому +26

      It's now over 223k
      Keep going folks!
      Let's show them how bad they've screwed up!

  • @haydon4
    @haydon4 2 місяці тому +41

    The end of this segment illustrates C.S. Lewis's comparison between tyrants and moral busybodies. A tyrant will sometimes sleep because he's momentarily satisfied, the moral busybody will never rest because believe that it's their purpose in life.

    • @Beeza2996
      @Beeza2996 2 місяці тому

      The WEF immediately comes to mind…

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 місяці тому +168

    Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama the creator of Dragon Ball who passed away at the age of 68.
    Your legacy lives on and we will miss you. 😢

    • @zachhughes9149
      @zachhughes9149 2 місяці тому +3

      Was blood clotted away

    • @mota478
      @mota478 2 місяці тому +1

      I see this comment every single latest video.

    • @VG-fk6nk
      @VG-fk6nk 2 місяці тому +1

      Who?

    • @bugsy742
      @bugsy742 2 місяці тому +14

      @@VG-fk6nkwho he was is literally in the 1st sentence smoothbrain 😅

    • @VG-fk6nk
      @VG-fk6nk 2 місяці тому +3

      @@bugsy742 A smoothbrain would see my comment and think I was being serious, and would reply like you did.
      Normal people would realize I'm being ironic. Asking the question not out of genuine interest, but as a way to take the piss out of online clout-chasers. "X celebrity died! Quick, I must pretend to care by telling all, to get likes!"

  • @thelaughingrouge
    @thelaughingrouge 2 місяці тому +83

    If someplace like Kotaku is rushing to defend sweet baby inc that tells you *EVERYTHING* you need to know about them.

  • @Rembreiker_lychec9257
    @Rembreiker_lychec9257 2 місяці тому +348

    Kotaku is a perfect example of EVERYTHING that's wrong with western journalism. If anyone this that Kotaku is a legitimate news site or does any journalism, you're delusional.

    • @rokko_hates_japan
      @rokko_hates_japan 2 місяці тому +13

      I used to enjoy reading Kotaku .... It must've been about 15 years ago by now lol. Then j watched as every single article got worse and worse, and before I knew the entire site (writers and comments) had gone off the deep end. I honestly don't know how any of those people believe each other's constant stream of BS garbage.

    • @rodnabors7364
      @rodnabors7364 2 місяці тому

      @@rokko_hates_japan Imo, that was everything on that platform (Kinja?). There was an automotive news site on there I really liked as well, crashed just as bad.

    • @hawkeye5955
      @hawkeye5955 2 місяці тому +19

      ​​@@rokko_hates_japan: The people who worked there 15 years ago most likely don't work there anymore and those job openings have been filled by activists and diversity quotas rather than actual journalists.

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@rokko_hates_japan There was an activist who write an article calling for sites like Kotaku to be more politically active and to educate (manipulate) their readers into taking a political side back in 2013. Kotaku, Polygon, and other sites haven't been the same since.

    • @Eirik_Bloodaxe
      @Eirik_Bloodaxe 2 місяці тому +3

      @@rokko_hates_japanI remember reading articles on Kotaku about how cool panty vending machines were lol.

  • @HowToChangeName
    @HowToChangeName 2 місяці тому +97

    You know the best part? We all can destroy them while having fun on their doom by simply watch the review instead of directly checking it

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +21

      And pay for indie games that are more bang for your buck and don't kowtow to these evil people.

  • @derbydriver
    @derbydriver 2 місяці тому +94

    “If you don’t like what we give you there’s something wrong with you” - a basic summary of the downfall of Rooster Teeth. They drove away the vast majority of their fanbase by shoveling garbage in front of them, and then yelling at them when they didn’t like it.

    • @MephiticMiasma
      @MephiticMiasma 2 місяці тому +1

      now scarce as rooster teeth

    • @KingofAwesomness14
      @KingofAwesomness14 2 місяці тому

      that really is what happened? Damn, that sucks, i liked some of their stuff.

    • @bahamut256
      @bahamut256 2 місяці тому +3

      @@KingofAwesomness14
      Not quite, its missing a fairly important event for context.
      Monty Oum, the guy who created Rooster Teeth and the guy who created things like Red Vs Blue, died from an allergic reaction.
      The day he died, the vultures at his studio snatched the company from his wife, who was the other driving creative force in making the shows and drove her out, even stealing her personal effects like her laptop.
      The people who snatched his legacy away did not have a fraction of his or his wife's talent, and were far more interested in pushing a woke agenda instead of telling his stories.
      After this yeah, the first guy is pretty correct, they began driving away their fans by being condescending assholes.

    • @theaikidoka
      @theaikidoka 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@bahamut256This post is utter nonsense apart from the lack of relative talents. Monty was not a founder, he didn't own the company with his wife, he made RWBY not Red vs Blue and the stealing laptops thing is ridiculous.

    • @TheOriginal_Unaleska
      @TheOriginal_Unaleska 2 місяці тому

      Where did you get your info? It's majority wrong​@@bahamut256

  • @Hero_Of_Old
    @Hero_Of_Old 2 місяці тому +25

    "If all my heroes are ugly and degenerates, that means I feel better about myself!"

  • @thatguyfromcetialphaV
    @thatguyfromcetialphaV 2 місяці тому +143

    'Going to a gym is going to give you a heart attack was written by a fatty.' PMSL.

    • @pajanightbadger1713
      @pajanightbadger1713 2 місяці тому

      More likely a PR rep from the vaccine industry...

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht 2 місяці тому +5

      Well, it would be true for them ;)

    • @thatguyfromcetialphaV
      @thatguyfromcetialphaV 2 місяці тому +11

      When I got chubby, going to a gym and not eating crap was exactly what I did.

    • @Jasper_Silva
      @Jasper_Silva 2 місяці тому +6

      Going to a gym can give you a heart attack... and so can NOT going to a gym and spending all your time sitting down and eating garbage. The fact the latter is much more likely is irrelevant, I guess.

    • @thatguyfromcetialphaV
      @thatguyfromcetialphaV 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Jasper_Silva yeah. But these people don't have common sense mate.

  • @mrkeogh
    @mrkeogh 2 місяці тому +38

    Imagine insinuating that quotes from Marcus Aurelius - possibly the most important and influential stoic in history - are a red flag and indicative of _toxicity_ 🤦🏻‍♂️
    F*cking hell.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 місяці тому +4

      Stoics believe that actions speak louder than words. What could be more toxic to these people than the idea that you're judging them by their actions, rather than their carefully redefined words?

  • @TheColonelKlink
    @TheColonelKlink 2 місяці тому +276

    How is this cancer on gaming called Kotaku still around?

    • @nuclearmedicineman6270
      @nuclearmedicineman6270 2 місяці тому

      ESG money. Private equity firm owns them; Great Hill Partners, it's like BlackRock Lite. They have 4 billion instead of 4 trillion, but essentially the same stuff. "ESG is a key aspect of our investment philosophy" - from their site.
      And I'm not sure they're going to be around much longer. They lost 2 editors in chief inside a year, laid off some staff, and closed down a couple of the local sites .UK and something else.. and the equity firm has been selling off other related assets.

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 2 місяці тому +24

      I think the more interesting observation is that of all the websites born of gamergate, Kotaku is the only one left to fight 2.0...

    • @incurableromantic4006
      @incurableromantic4006 2 місяці тому

      Because the globalists are willing to lose money on things if it pushes "THE MESSAGE".

    • @nuclearmedicineman6270
      @nuclearmedicineman6270 2 місяці тому

      Man, UA-cam keeps deleting my comment. Looks like any mention of a certain investment strategy employed by some large socially conscious equity funds merits an automatic deletion.
      Just stating facts, quoting MSNBC news, the companies' websites.. not breaking any UA-cam rules. If I just enter the letter E followed immediately by S, and then a G, then BOOM! the comment vanishes, within seconds.

    • @mfo6892
      @mfo6892 2 місяці тому +12

      China's money 😂

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 2 місяці тому +67

    Marcus Aurelius quotes was the most shocking revelation. 🙃

    • @RJALEXANDER777
      @RJALEXANDER777 2 місяці тому +31

      I'm surprised they're against him. Comparatively speaking Marcus Aurelius was one of the most liberal people to ever exist (being a liberal-minded thinker in Ancient Rome, one of the most deeply conservative/hierarchical/patriarchal societies to ever exist? Is a miracle in of itself that the leader for a time was somehow a liberal). I guess all they see is "male patriarch" as opposed to actually examining his ideals.

    • @grandmufftwerkin9037
      @grandmufftwerkin9037 2 місяці тому +33

      @@RJALEXANDER777
      They probably barely have any idea who he is. They probably think he's just a character from Gladiator.

    • @IVIRnathanreilly
      @IVIRnathanreilly 2 місяці тому +20

      ​@@RJALEXANDER777 I'm with the other guy, you're giving them way too much credit.
      If they can't be spoonfed the information and an accompanying opinion they don't know anything about it.

    • @maxbaugh9372
      @maxbaugh9372 2 місяці тому

      @@RJALEXANDER777 They don't care what Marcus Aurelius said or did, all they know is that a group they don't like (nerdy white guys) has become interested in his work therefore it must be bad, and they will do whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to prove it.

    • @bilson7523
      @bilson7523 2 місяці тому +14

      @@RJALEXANDER777 You're assuming they read about him. People they don't like quote him, that's enough to discredit him in the eyes of Kotakuists.

  • @billstrader4326
    @billstrader4326 2 місяці тому +15

    A famous person once said "A Spoonful of Sugar Helps the Medicine Go Down". These people fail to realize that we don't need the medicine and they also forgot the sugar.

    • @olafgurke4699
      @olafgurke4699 2 місяці тому +1

      And the medicine is actually just piss.

  • @ephraimwinslow
    @ephraimwinslow 2 місяці тому +371

    It's sad when you realize the rules for dealing with "journalists" and "activists" and "politicians" are identical to the rules for dealing with advertisers. When you're done with them? You just ignore them completely.
    And then, weirdly? ALL THEIR POWER DISAPPEARS. Almost like their whole world is just one big corporate gaslight.

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 2 місяці тому +21

      Speaking of sad, the death of *Akira Toriyama* (Dragon Ball) was announced.

    • @Xtra_21
      @Xtra_21 2 місяці тому +12

      @@goofygrandlouis6296i heard this morning, its absolutely heartbreaking. 💔

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Xtra_21 Yep, my childhood.

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@@goofygrandlouis6296 Of all ways for me to find this out...

    • @champdynasty8992
      @champdynasty8992 2 місяці тому +4

      This is the way.

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 місяці тому +65

    Hollywood should stop the whole “deconstructing heroes” bs

    • @jcore0981
      @jcore0981 2 місяці тому +7

      If it's done well i.e. Puss in Boots or God of War, I'm totally fine with it.

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner 2 місяці тому +15

      ​@@jcore0981it's rarely done well.

    • @jcore0981
      @jcore0981 2 місяці тому

      @JadeRunner Neither is subversion of expectations, yet some of my favorite films of all time are built on it. Concepts shouldn't just be thrown out cause it's done poorly. That's retarded

    • @Knowbody42
      @Knowbody42 2 місяці тому

      Hollywood "should" do a lot of things that they won't do.
      Hollywood should expose all the pedophiles. They're not going to, though.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 місяці тому +7

      @@JadeRunnerThat's because 'deconstruction done well' involves reconstruction; building something takes effort and some combination of skill and talent.

  • @ClericHeretic
    @ClericHeretic 2 місяці тому +18

    They have an unusual fixation on children.

  • @paulanderson771
    @paulanderson771 2 місяці тому +54

    The CEO's extreme language on why SBI is needed in that 2019 speech matches how aggressively identity politics and social issues are being pushed in games, so SBI does do exactly what people think it does. Game companies do sign off on it but they're not getting both sides. Maybe I should start are consulting firm that goes around 'terrifying' game companies with what will happen if they ignore core audiences and downgrade traditional legacy characters with frumpy models.

  • @S3aChange
    @S3aChange 2 місяці тому +140

    The mistake we make is accepting the battlefield these disingenuous activists have set. They should be utterly ignored, their trash products should be utterly ignored, their trash ideas should be utterly ignored and not debated any further and we should support good stuff such as Godzilla Minus One, Helldivers 2 etc.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +15

      I really hope Japan and the indie space have the foresight to see that a loyal customer base will produce more money in the long run than ESG. Because eventually Blackrock and Vanguard are gonna wise up and see that the ideology they push has become more hated because of their initiatives.

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 2 місяці тому +32

      actually that was the mistake of gamergate 1.0, just assuming if we gamers ignored it it would go away. Instead that left a vacuum where only the morons were talking about it and a lot of people assumed that means they must have a point
      Stupidity requires silence to propagate, but cannot survive in the same space as truth for long.

    • @RJALEXANDER777
      @RJALEXANDER777 2 місяці тому +14

      Vote with wallet, simple as that. Most companies were only accepting radical liberal ideology due to the juicy hand-outs and incentives from financial organisations. They took their customers for granted and didn't expect their primary income streams to dry up. Short of a few true believers they've never been sincere, it was always about profit, now they're taking a step back and reverting to how things used to be.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому

      @@RJALEXANDER777 Vote with your wallet and make it permanent. Customers need to send the message that if you side with DEI and ESG, than you better hope those funds never go away because you'll never get my money again. Belair would have to personally bl()w me to ever get me to even consider buying an SBI affiliated game.

    • @foregone_roulette
      @foregone_roulette 2 місяці тому

      The biggest mistake with gamergate was that gamers thought eventually the media would take their side when they exposed how deeply corrupt the indie dev/journalism scene was, instead of doubling down and rewriting the whole narrative. The only thing you can do is vote with your wallet, it's the only way to make people pay attention. We will never have the media on our side, since they created the problem.

  • @JohnDoe-sr1dd
    @JohnDoe-sr1dd 2 місяці тому +49

    Yep, attacking consumers for not wanting your product. That'll work never.

  • @src6339
    @src6339 2 місяці тому +17

    Tries journalism, defaults back to punditry in the very first paragraph.

  • @skylx0812
    @skylx0812 2 місяці тому +111

    She said she wrote herself and people "like her" into the hero stories. Going on the assumption that someone Like Her is interesting and compelling enough to carry those kinds of stories. When all she did was bring all her bagage.
    All she's done is proven that someone like her is NOT hero material. The emo banal villian, definitely.

    • @greghannibal
      @greghannibal 2 місяці тому +15

      I wouldn't want to write a story about myself. I'm boring. I write stories about more interesting people.

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@greghannibalexactly.

  • @devekut2
    @devekut2 2 місяці тому +41

    'Worship of the Ugly' is a core tenet among the "woke". Art that exalts or inspires is verboten.

    • @Kylephibbsky
      @Kylephibbsky 2 місяці тому

      I am not a conspiracy theorist, nor a fundamentalist but the worship of ugliness and outright evil from the woke honestly feels demonic to me.
      Like there are a lot of woke things that I can say "ah, this is misguided but they just want to help people" but the hatred of beauty and virtue... It's fucking weird.

  • @jeffcapes
    @jeffcapes 2 місяці тому +23

    they invoke gamergate, but one of the founders of sweet baby is literally the sister of the guy directly involved in the reasons for gamergate

    • @tkps
      @tkps 2 місяці тому +7

      And the SBI employee who told Twitter to mass flag that Steam account was involved with Sarkeesian's DDOS attack on that charity thing back then. Both publicly bragged then denied involvement. Grayson (one of Quinn's journalist 'mates') posted defending SBI. That mob are up to their necks in this. They hope for the same results they got out of Gamergate but we all know the truth now as well as that they're directly responsible for the downfall of gaming and US entertainment. It won't work a 2nd time.

  • @PlayerOne.StartGame
    @PlayerOne.StartGame 2 місяці тому +181

    SBI is getting exposed for what they have done, but the companies are just as responsible for hiring them in the first place. I've been playing a lot of older games and I'm more fulfiled.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +21

      Older games and indie games is where I'm staying at this point. Western AAA gaming is beyond redemption at this point.

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 2 місяці тому +20

      i actually think nobody's talking enough about the biggest problem people like SBI create : When their shit writing causes a game to fail, they're not the ones who pay the ultimate price. They move on like a locust swarm to the next project, while the programmers and artists at the studio left holding the bag are the ones who get fired an often leave the gaming industry for good, leaving it even further devoid of actually creative people
      The workers Gamers should, and largely do, support pay the price for what the idiot activists destroy. This leaves the game industry as a whole in a much worse place because of their arrogance.

    • @kendalson7100
      @kendalson7100 2 місяці тому +2

      Yup the way to pushback is not to buy their crappy new games. Lots of old good stuff out and about to play. Hit the major studios where they hurt- their bottom line sales.

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma 2 місяці тому +6

      As I understand it, SBI somehow has very close connections with money-lenders. The money-lenders get a request for funding from a game-studio and then asks SBI to "investigate" that studio on their DIE score. Nautrally (duh!), SBI finds that the studio doesn't comply (enough) with DIE and "advice" the studio that SBI needs to consult them on their game. So the "investigator" SBI, "advises" to hire them to rewrite the game and probably tells the studio that they'd better keep SBI on as consultants, else future funding "might" be really problematic. This sounds like a legalised form of extortion to me (personal opinion).

    • @Zac_Frost
      @Zac_Frost 2 місяці тому +3

      Same. I went back through Fire Emblem: Awakening recently and had a blast. And the female characters are better written and designed to be more attractive, to boot lol.
      This is how much better it was just 10 years ago.

  • @jpteknoman
    @jpteknoman 2 місяці тому +14

    I've been saying it for years now that these people are like the fox in Aesop's tale. It lost its tail to a snare and because it didn't want to feel inferior, it tried to convince all other foxes to cut off their tails too.

    • @alexvesper7820
      @alexvesper7820 2 місяці тому +8

      Aesop's fables are not just fantasy stories, they're educational works. This is indeed a very real tendency in human nature, which is why Aesop wrote a fable for it.

  • @aegorrivers6700
    @aegorrivers6700 2 місяці тому +12

    I love how that kotaku journalist said she 'infiltrated' the group. By that she means she joined the group...

  • @BlackDouglas1000
    @BlackDouglas1000 2 місяці тому +49

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    ― C. S. Lewis

    • @iggtastic
      @iggtastic 2 місяці тому

      Ah yes. A Marcus Aurelius quote. Classic

  • @cmc5394oparva
    @cmc5394oparva 2 місяці тому +63

    The best part was Mercante trying to blame the whole thing on Kiwifarms, when it started due to SBI employees and legobutts doing a Streisand Effect from their efforts to get the thread banned, to the point where it got picked up by UA-camrs like Asmongold.
    If they had just stayed off their keyboards the whole thing would have blown over, but these people are drama and dopamine addicts who can't help themselves.

    • @cortholiopezorama8879
      @cortholiopezorama8879 2 місяці тому +10

      “I would have got away with it too if it wasn’t for those damn internet archivists!”
      Classic.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 2 місяці тому

      I'm disappointed that Drinker et al didn't mention the Kiwifarms angle. I wonder if it's because two members of the panel have threads on there... 🤔

    • @tkps
      @tkps 2 місяці тому +4

      Kiwifarms was mentioned because Kotaku loathes it exposed Quinn and Sarkeesian as lying toads who weren't 'harrassed out of our homes' during Gamergate. An SBI employee was involved in the DDOS attack with Sarkeesian back then, first bragging then denying involvement. The same employee who called for a mass flag of the Steam account. One of the '5 guys' (Quinn) just wrote a post defending SBI. Seems it's the same incestuous mob from back then. They were successful in infiltrating gaming with the help of their media mates but every change they claim was necessary resulted in losses companies can no longer ignore.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 2 місяці тому

      @@tkps I'm talking about the video, not the article. Hell, it was Jersh who brought it to my attention originally.

  • @ryujisama
    @ryujisama 2 місяці тому +27

    That's an interesting point to make when it comes to beauty standards in games. If the setting is gritty, brutal, and/or leaning more towards realism, then sure. Include people who aren't swimsuit models and look like they've been through hell. But if you're in a fantasy setting where things lean towards the more fantastical, then you can be more lax on your standards of "beauty", because it's a fantasy setting.
    ... Or you could just let the devs create the characters they want, and try not to put yourself in a character that's meant to be a character and not you. For instance, I'm a black, overweight introvert, but I think Dante from the Devil May Cry series (a handsome, fit, white male) is a pretty cool badass, and I don't want to see him changed unless the story logically calls for it.

    • @TheWickedWizardOfOz1
      @TheWickedWizardOfOz1 2 місяці тому +9

      There's a bigger issue with "ugly" female characters as well. Those are *not* natural, healthy bodies or faces that are being placed on female characters in particular. No woman is actually as ugly as the women in games - they have swung to the opposite extreme of "idealized female bodies."

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner 2 місяці тому +16

      I'm an unattractive male Resident Evil fan in my 30s with a whiskey gut. The last thing I want my Resident Evil heroes to look like is me. I want the guys to look like jacked body builders and super models like Leon Kenny and Chris Redfield. I want the girls to look like pretty super models and athletes like Claire Redfield and Jill Valentine. Even the "everyman/woman" protagonists like Ethan and Mia Winters, who look a little less idealised, a little more "mid" and, well, _real,_ still don't look ugly as sin, and I don't want them to.
      This idea that we uglies are being left out and "marginalised" by not having any ugly protagonists in videogames to "project ourselves" onto is a farcical Iie.
      And what's with that whole "project ourselves" garbage, anyway? I don't play Resident Evil to pretend Chris Redfield is _me,_ I play Resident Evil to pretend _I'm_ Chris Redfield. Why would I want to see _myself_ in Resident Evil? 🧐

    • @ryujisama
      @ryujisama 2 місяці тому +4

      @@JadeRunner Agreed. Let's save the "projecting ourselves" onto characters for games with a character creator option.

  • @cympimpin20
    @cympimpin20 2 місяці тому +21

    This episode was just a buffet of distinguished accents

  • @darthhodges
    @darthhodges 2 місяці тому +13

    This problem goes back farther than the gaming industry and is really a form of coping by people who weren't popular in high school. A now old TV trope is that jocks and attractive people are always stupid and the artsy and emo are actually the smartest. In reality there is a POSITIVE correlation between intelligence, physical ability, and physical attractiveness. It's not absolute but it's stronger than the correlation between creativity and intelligence.

  • @nuclearmedicineman6270
    @nuclearmedicineman6270 2 місяці тому +26

    Kotaku is operated on ESG money.

  • @titanicpat1275
    @titanicpat1275 2 місяці тому +23

    Once the activists have EXACTLY what they want in games, they will then cry that not enough people bought it and loved it.
    As we are currently seeing in movies with The Marvels and Madame Web.

    • @hawkeye5955
      @hawkeye5955 2 місяці тому +10

      The CEO of SBI basically says "people must like our ideology and we will force it on them with threats of financial ruin and public relations disaster"

  • @maximiliand2544
    @maximiliand2544 2 місяці тому +16

    The Drinker is the definition of.
    For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.
    He didn't fuel this movement.
    He is just part of the reaction.

  • @SamM_Scot
    @SamM_Scot 2 місяці тому +24

    Remember this is the same Kotaku that was forced into apologizing to Sega/Nintendo after claiming Persona 5 song in Smash had a slur when it wasn't true at all, and also posting really offensive racist type crap after Nintendo blacklisted them over how and where to emulate Metroid Dread before actual release :-)

  • @Spetz83
    @Spetz83 2 місяці тому +47

    I've been saying this for like... a decade.... Kotaku and Journalism should never be used in the same sentence.

  • @cmendr011
    @cmendr011 2 місяці тому +8

    Bizarre how people who can’t control themselves seek to control everything else

  • @Silenthero66
    @Silenthero66 2 місяці тому +35

    I like how this is a movies and tv podcast but the sweet baby stuff is just SO EGREGIOUS it can't not be covered when when largely off topic.

    • @johndoe-lp9my
      @johndoe-lp9my 2 місяці тому +14

      It's the same problem effecting all entertainment industries.
      The socialists' motto is _you will be made to care._

    • @casualcausalityy
      @casualcausalityy 2 місяці тому

      It's all connected, like some sort of "collective" ideology constantly being pushed by these nutcases

    • @casualcausalityy
      @casualcausalityy 2 місяці тому

      It's all connected, like some sort of "collective" ideology constantly being pushed by these completely sane "journalists" and consultants

    • @casualcausalityy
      @casualcausalityy 2 місяці тому

      It's all connected, almost a "collective" ideology being pushed by these "journalists" and consultants

    • @casualcausalityy
      @casualcausalityy 2 місяці тому

      It's all connected, a coll*ctive ideology being pushed by all the same "journalists" and consultants

  • @alifelesscarcass651
    @alifelesscarcass651 2 місяці тому +18

    GG is the Vietnam of the games journo. Still seething to this day, that they couldn't win and getting ptsd flashbacks when someone critizies their BS. While everybody has already move on a long time ago

    • @tehbonehead
      @tehbonehead 2 місяці тому +2

      Vietnam is over, and most people there have a positive view of the US... it's Korea. A war that was never settled, two polarized sides that don't like the other... one aware, enlightened, and progressing; the other gaslit by their leaders and living in abject terror and misery.

  • @JadeRunner
    @JadeRunner 2 місяці тому +8

    The comments on that article are wild "If Sweet Baby Inc are helping to remove racism, sexism and bigotry from videogames, then I'm all for it!"
    "Like Howard Stern said: I'd rather be Woke than asleep!"
    "I'm sick of the way the word 'Woke' has been misappropriated by people who live in echo chambers..."
    The lack of awareness is astounding. 😅

  • @heimdal8
    @heimdal8 2 місяці тому +19

    The fact that they always choose to create controversy rather than creating a more subtle and elegant way to increase diversity shows that there is something else going on here. In God of War: Ragnarök they made Angerboda (a character from norse mythology) black despite it being completely wrong from a narrative/historical point of view. They COULD have introduced a character from some african mytholgy which would have worked since there is a whole thing in these new games about Tyr (and other characters) traveling between realms but they deliberately didn't do that. In Alan Wake 2 they very deliberately made Saga Andersson (a scandinavian/finnish character) black despite her being shown to be a blonde caucasian woman in the previous game. Since Alan Wake takes place in modern time there was nothing stopping them from introducing a new character that was black. It would have worked and no one would have complained but they didn't do that. In SS: KTJL they again made Deadshot black despite him being white in the previous games instead of introducing one of the many black characters that exists in the DC universe. They could have made all of this work but they choose not to do it. They want people to get mad so that they can claim it's becasue of racism and misogony. They manufacture conflict so that they can claim that they need to exist in order to fight this imaginary war.
    If you want evidence of the opposite just look at the game Banishers: ghosts of New Eden. That game takes place in New England in the 1600s and the main female character is black. She is explained to have run away from her homeland of Haiti and since it works from a narrative and historical POV how many people have thrown a hissy fit over that? Exactly.

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner 2 місяці тому +4

      I thought they might do something clever with bIack Angrobodr by revealing at some point in the story that she is an "immigrant God" like Kratos. For instance, say her family were originally Gods from an African pantheon like the Orisha, who left Africa to live in the land of Norse gods like Kratos did. I like the idea of two or more Gods from different pantheons actually being the same individual. The Greek God of War also being Farbauti the Norse Giant is a really cool idea and I thought they might do something similar with Angrobodr.
      But no. In the end her skin color is left entirely unexplained and unaddressed and other Norse Gods and Giants are shown to be all kinds of ethnicities. It was a total let down.
      And the real problem for me is that we all know damn well that if the next GoW game is set in Ancient Egypt they won't dare depict an Egyptian God or Goddess as a white or Asian woman.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 місяці тому

      As you say, it's manufactured controversy. It's the same in the news; the people groups like BLM champion aren't people that are obviously in the right; it's people that earned an appointment with the cops, and then they escalated. Black man shot while trying to flee after burgling a home is a racism, while another half dozen black teens killed over the weekend in Chicago is a statistic never to be explored.

    • @arthurmorgan1177
      @arthurmorgan1177 2 місяці тому

      Well Saga wasn't in Alan Wake 1, but she was in a teaser in Remedy's Quantum Break and that teaser was pretty much a trailer for Alan Wake 2 and it had Max Payne I mean Alex Casey along with Saga who was white and Blonde.
      And even in Alan Wake 2 Saga wasn't actually that bad there were a couple of problems with her, but I found her sections of the game pretty enjoyable, probably because SBI only changed her race and edited a couple things and called it good.

  • @matthewchandler7845
    @matthewchandler7845 2 місяці тому +10

    They are eternal victims.

  • @flo721
    @flo721 2 місяці тому +5

    When someone doesn't accept your abusive behavior and you call them 'babie,' it's something you hear a lot in abusive relationships.

  • @sterling7
    @sterling7 2 місяці тому +3

    I'm reminded of the line from "The Simpsons": "The blues isn't about feeling better! It's about making other people feel worse!"
    As far as Kotaku goes... Pretty much all they're doing is reminding everyone why no one listens to them, any more.

  • @garyjenkins7249
    @garyjenkins7249 2 місяці тому +9

    Good to see Mr H here again. Always a good take from him

  • @SurnaturalM
    @SurnaturalM 2 місяці тому +12

    The only one diversity they don't want is the diversity of thought.

  • @dagrynch
    @dagrynch 2 місяці тому +27

    GamerGate lives rent free in professional victims heads

  • @limaikhiankelvin9800
    @limaikhiankelvin9800 2 місяці тому +5

    Don't trust that Disney will change, don't trust that Hollywood will change, you guys start your own studio! The world of fan base will support you guys.

  • @moseszero3281
    @moseszero3281 2 місяці тому +8

    No no no... these Velma's are not merely bigots. They are OBSESSED with CONSTANTLY judging EVERYONE based PURELY on their race/sex/gender/orientation/etc. They are horrid faulure of human beings that are so sick that they NEED everyone else to be as sick as them.

  • @TheCjman93
    @TheCjman93 2 місяці тому +5

    Looking at the introductory article written by the lady in question... she's nuts. Never seen any normal human being introduce themselves with profanity, vulgar innuendos
    "pumping you full of healing juices in Overwatch" and bragging up their masters dissertation in Queer Theory. In just the first two paragraphs.

  • @saltykraken9471
    @saltykraken9471 2 місяці тому +39

    R.I.P. Legend Akira Toriyama (1955 - 2024)

    • @tobeornottobe5611
      @tobeornottobe5611 2 місяці тому

      I don't understand how 30+ people can like your comment without realizing you got Akira's birth year wrong.

    • @saltykraken9471
      @saltykraken9471 2 місяці тому

      @@tobeornottobe5611 I don't understand why you can't just say "hey man you made a mistake." The sentiment is the important thing.

    • @arthurmorgan1177
      @arthurmorgan1177 2 місяці тому

      And Fuck SBI.

  • @kevinoneil5120
    @kevinoneil5120 2 місяці тому +7

    The people who make it their life's work to PICK out stuff that makes them feel icky accusing unsatisfied customers of being picky babies. Do these people even know what the word "hypocrisy" means?

  • @Zathren
    @Zathren 2 місяці тому +8

    Still can't believe people defend the Spiderman games from Insomniac Games. I knew with the first game it wasn't going well.

  • @CrashTestPilot
    @CrashTestPilot 2 місяці тому +3

    That Fable character sends me into fits of laughter every time I see it.

  • @daddyattitude
    @daddyattitude 2 місяці тому +14

    DEI by definition, is in of itself racist.

  • @_LilRascal_
    @_LilRascal_ 2 місяці тому +1

    “They claim their labours are to build a heaven yet their heaven is populated with horrors.”
    -Doctor Manhattan

  • @patttrick
    @patttrick 2 місяці тому +5

    I was once on a marketing course. We were told front of house ,should be young attractive people,if possible a women as it made people feel more comfortable.

  • @aldunlop4622
    @aldunlop4622 2 місяці тому +2

    Mr H's Datsun sign is awesome! My first car was a Datsun 180B, my second was a Datsun 240Z, probably my favourite care of all time!

  • @Humphking
    @Humphking 2 місяці тому +4

    RIP Akira Toriyama

  • @Gnomleif
    @Gnomleif 2 місяці тому +4

    6:50 - "If you like someone like that you must be insane. Your brain is rotted from being on the internet for too long." Nah. I live in a small-ish town in Northern Europe, and I see women who are comparable to the AI generated images almost every time I go outside.

  • @messertl
    @messertl 2 місяці тому +8

    sweet babaly inc detected curator has 221,000+ followers now.

  • @Optimusj1975
    @Optimusj1975 2 місяці тому +4

    11:54 This is Gramsci. The revolution must NEVER END. Once you reached the goal make something foreign the actual goal.

    • @todd8398
      @todd8398 2 місяці тому +1

      "Never stop moving the goalposts"

  • @glados4765
    @glados4765 2 місяці тому +5

    TIL: Kotaku still exists.

  • @vomder
    @vomder 2 місяці тому +5

    For the most part, all we have now, is yellow journalism. William Randolph Hearst would have loved to be here today.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 місяці тому +1

      The biggest lie journalists ever told was that the yellow journalism ever ended. They started giving themselves awards, used better quality paper, all told the same basic story, and got deeper into bed with the government.

  • @YellowJeep
    @YellowJeep 2 місяці тому +2

    "This is an outrage, sir, I say!" 😆🤣

  • @joncarr5545
    @joncarr5545 2 місяці тому +2

    Love these guests. Thanks guys.

  • @quasarleon4645
    @quasarleon4645 2 місяці тому +34

    Without even wanting to get political ,
    it's obvious that "Journalists" , at one point or another, just turned into "Journalibs" .

    • @hawkeye5955
      @hawkeye5955 2 місяці тому

      Urnalists seems more fitting as they piss all over the things the majority of people like. The group that SBI tried to shut down on Steam is now over 200,000 strong, with people from all over the world, from different backgrounds.

  • @jasonoconner7863
    @jasonoconner7863 2 місяці тому +3

    A person who makes it their job to be a video game activist like Sarkesian, will do everything in their power to make the gravy train keep going whether it makes sense or not.

  • @mwt3579
    @mwt3579 2 місяці тому +4

    We have allowed the losers who are bitter because they never got asked to go to the school dance to run society.

  • @Batzarn82
    @Batzarn82 2 місяці тому +15

    I wish companies would keep the culture war bs out of video games. I loved hogwarts legacy but they made a point to check all the boxes as far as THE MESSAGE goes. Still a great game but I’m sick of this being shoved down my throat then being told I’m a bigot for not enjoying it.
    The left has gone way too far in telling people what to think and what to say or you will be called an ism or
    Phobic. Hell if men don’t want to date a non biological female they are called t-phobic because they want to be with a biological woman. It’s out of hand and needs to stop.

    • @Bonesawisready926
      @Bonesawisready926 2 місяці тому +2

      To be fair, I think all the gender neutral pronouns in that game were so WB didn't have to pay the actors to read the same scripts twice. You could tell that game was made on a lower budget. I think it's a solid 7, the gameplay was really fun, but the story was very mid.

    • @ItsaKindOfMagic86
      @ItsaKindOfMagic86 2 місяці тому

      💯

  • @E3Ops
    @E3Ops 2 місяці тому +3

    Like ordering a medium rare steak and getting a chunk of charcoal and being told that is their version of medium rare.

  • @Juhno
    @Juhno 2 місяці тому +3

    Is that pathological desire to see oneself in fiction some extreme form of narcissism. I'm not (and never can be) a space marine or a Victorian noblewoman, so that's why I want to play as one (in a GOOD game).

  • @Lizards_Lounge
    @Lizards_Lounge 2 місяці тому +2

    Amusing how people say "gay is born that way,.. love is love.. you're attracted to who you are attracted to"
    Just can't seem to work out why people dont like what they FORCE onto them and can;t accept we know what we like.

  • @FlickTheBrick
    @FlickTheBrick 2 місяці тому +2

    Gentlemen, remember: the Revolution never ends.

  • @bradbowers963
    @bradbowers963 2 місяці тому +1

    The reason it's never enough is, to quote James Lindsey, " The issue is never the issue. The issue is always revolution."

  • @miqueel5410
    @miqueel5410 2 місяці тому +2

    Change the way people talk, you change the way they think. If you can change the way they think then you can control them how you want. - George Carlin

  • @builditonce
    @builditonce 2 місяці тому +1

    And they were SO close to real journalification this time!

  • @The_Sisyphean
    @The_Sisyphean 2 місяці тому +1

    An excellent panel this week. 😎

  • @KingofAwesomness14
    @KingofAwesomness14 2 місяці тому +3

    the fact that these assholes dare disrespect toriyama on his unfortunate death is just infuriating and means i want nothing to do with them.

    • @EvilDoresh
      @EvilDoresh 2 місяці тому

      You'd think they would be more careful what they're saying right now, but their need for attention is apparently too great.

  • @adamjones1115
    @adamjones1115 2 місяці тому +1

    Their life is defined by destroying the work of better people.

  • @joelt2002
    @joelt2002 2 місяці тому +3

    Yeah I've played with "realism" versus fantasy in creative writing. A realistic person, as in average, is not interesting. If you're going to have an "ugly" or "plain" character they need to have something else going on for them that ties into it. As in are they disfigured?
    Main characters are typically more idealistic. Not that they don't have flaws, but they are usually more attractive and above average in a lot of areas. That is what engages readers. Video games I think are even more pressing on this than movies and books, as you are staring at your characters for 40+ hours depending on game length. You should like what your character looks like if you're going to be staring at them for that long.
    For instance this show. Most of the people talking are average attractiveness. They couldn't just run a streaming show where they play games and get a massive following based on their looks. They need to have something else that draws interest and eyeballs. In this case it's special takes on cultural topics and good insight.

  • @steprockmedia
    @steprockmedia 2 місяці тому +1

    Why do you get empowerment on one side "You are beautiful and powerful!"
    and then scorn on the other "How DARE YOU prefer that image???"

  • @pegcity4eva
    @pegcity4eva 2 місяці тому +4

    Kotaku is Always on the wrong side of any argument.

  • @scrapmason3721
    @scrapmason3721 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm just really irritated they quoted Marcus Aurelius. They"re not even worthy to quote Caligula

  • @BingleBangleBungle
    @BingleBangleBungle 2 місяці тому

    When Chris Kindred was a child he was the type who liked to poke a beehive with a stick and became angry when the bees came after him.

  • @wackpendejo3000
    @wackpendejo3000 2 місяці тому +3

    synthman was right about ragnarok, mauler has to say hes sorry.

  • @Bwdh23
    @Bwdh23 2 місяці тому +2

    Kotaku is blacklisted by Nintendo, I hope we can all blacklist everything Sweetbaby Inc touches as well.

  • @Secret_Takodachi
    @Secret_Takodachi Місяць тому

    😂 This feels like a parody that even The Onion would have called "a bit over the top" 🤣

  • @planetdisco4821
    @planetdisco4821 2 місяці тому

    I’m a 55 year old Aussie construction worker and a few months ago I was riding my scooter home from site near the Melbourne convention centre (aka Jeff’s Shed) when I suddenly encountered what I can only describe as a sort of slow moving human tsunami of corpulent, pasty-faced people dressed in the worst no “F’s” given-made-it-out -of- spray-painted-silver-left over-pizza-boxes-I-picked-up-off-the-lounge room-floor Cosplay I’ve ever seen. As the waddled…errr, walked on the promenade Many where puffing on asthma inhalers, brandishing epipens or dragging small carts loaded with insulin behind them.
    My God, I marvelled to myself: they’re so stupendously unnattractive people be gathered together in one place? Are they extras for a post-apocalyptic HBO spin off called “The Walking Lard?” What the hell is going on? then I finally got close enough to read the banner “Melbourne International Gamers Convention. Ahhhh…. It’s the only time they’ve left the house in the last 12 months. And they’ve lived on a diet consisting mostly of pot noodles so I guess I’ll give them their day. But if anybody in marketing to the gaming industry thinks that it’s a good idea for game characters to look like actual gamers they should see what I saw that day. It looked like prom-night for a bunch of overfed cave trolls 😂

  • @Nightdare
    @Nightdare 2 місяці тому

    1:51 "Misinformed"
    I would translate that to "people that don't swallow bullshit"

  • @NoBody-dp8bd
    @NoBody-dp8bd 2 місяці тому +7

    Spaghetti

  • @Kpizzle1289
    @Kpizzle1289 2 місяці тому +1

    What Mr H Reviews said around the end, about the goal posts always moving is spot on. This is a core tenet of Queer Theory, which is what a lot of progressive movements are based/founded on.
    Simply put, queer theory aims to ensure that nothing and everything is normal and not normal at the same time. Because Queer Theory posits (like Marxism) is that there is two groups with special properties, the in the group and the out group. Being cis hetero is the normal, anything else is not, to a degree.
    If something becomes normal, it's part of the cultural producing hegemony, and is now longer queer, and can no longer be used for the revolution. So the goal posts have to always move. Because they want to 'normalise' everything, once they've done that they move onto what ever is next.
    Queer isn't a sexual identity, it's a political one. Read any Queer Theory and they'll tell you this.

  • @LostCauseClown
    @LostCauseClown 2 місяці тому +1

    Movies died, I guess it's video games turn now. This won't end.

  • @maximiliand2544
    @maximiliand2544 2 місяці тому +4

    I own all the Fable games but I won't be buying this new doppelganger.