Drinker's Chasers - How Hollywood Killed Awards Season
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2024
- Sagging ratings and public apathy has become the norm for major awards season these days, but how did it happen? How did Hollywood kill interest in itself?
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People used to say "separate the art from the artists" and we did... But their egos did not like that so they put their message into their art and now we just hate both
Exactly. They used to be separate but now they’re inseparable
Social media makes that impossible.
I pride myself for saying things as insightful and concisely as you just did.
Your hammer drives nails squarely.
People on the red carpet used to ask: “What’s John Wayne’s latest role”? Or, “Gary Cooper, what’s your thoughts on tonight’s showing”? As they’d enter the theater for a premiere. Now? We roll our eyes, and sigh, as we see another shallow, woke, predictable, superhero or woke film, and now we ask: “Is this the fifth sequel now”? Or, “oh, that actor is playing this character again”?
@@garrettviewegh9028👍👍. True
George C Scott dismissed the Oscars as a "two-hour meat parade, a public display with contrived suspense for economic reasons" and refused to attend despite being nominated multiple times. This was back in the 60s and 70s.
Including his nomination for Patton.
Maximum respect to George C Scott, his portrayal of general Patton was nothing short of phenominal.
Aren't movies themselves contrived suspense for economic reasons?
@@archstanton9073 GSC did take the money for making Patton, just not the Oscar.
George C Scott was a boss. He probably despised Hollywood and its gaggle of hypocrites more than anyone, and wasn’t afraid to voice it. Charles Bronson was another real one.
award seasons used to be awesome and mostly deserved. and now, they are so boring and undeserved. Ricky Gervais, was right, "thank your god, thank your agent and fuck off"
yeah, so many people gave him crap but i thought it was point on and honestly hilarious lol hes usually not my style of comedian but damn thats good
@@kyledabearsfanHardly anyone gave him grief, people loved it. It's been seen millions of times.
Paul Hogan (Crocodile Dundee) called them on their bullshit nearly forty years ago. Piss funny.m.ua-cam.com/video/NtxZeDYuEZI/v-deo.html&pp=ygURcGF1bCBob2dhbiBvc2NhcnM%3D
It's wokeness fatigue.
What God? Besides themselves, Hollywood has no god.
It's now about Celebs pretending they're better than everyone else instead of the art of cinema.
When were they not like this? Seriously asking.
Before social Media. I'm sure celebs have always thought they were better than everyone else. But since social Media awards shows feel like a get together of a twitter group chat. At least in the past movie stars were actual stars.@@samfisherxboxog8925
Once upon a time, some people took winning Oscars seriously because they were given for cinematic reasons more than sociopolitical ones.
The celebs always had their heads up their bums, but they at least understood who made them famous, had lived real lives, and weren't all members of the same cult.
@@samfisherxboxog8925the Oscar's where created to distract the public from the cesspool of Hollywood scandals.
And I'm not even joking, that's mostly why they put it together.
Before social media showed how out of touch they were. they feel both fake and stupid at the same time. One example is supporting Clinton and BLM but overlooking Clinton's invading of Libya caused a slave trade of Africans. @@samfisherxboxog8925
Video killed the radio star, and social media killed the movie star.
The movie star was dying even before social media. Special attention was placed on the main actors in a movie. For instance, the promotion would say Julia Roberts in Notting Hill. People went to see Julia Roberts in what IMDB says is some bad movies. For instance, Full Frontal got a 4.7 out of 10 on IMDB yet broke even. The number of people after Julia Roberts that could pull off something like that is non existent.
@@orlock20 So, what caused the decline of movie stars before the advent of social media?
@@DeusExMachina50I believe the male movie stars went away because of video games and that cable show and TV writers were better than movie writers which was not always the case. Male movies went from character driven to action driven. For instance in a John Wayne movie, the camera was centered on John Wayne. In an action movie, the camera was often focused on the stunts. The women were often sidekicks in movies and even more so now. Sure they tried recently to put women as leads, but they did it with movies made for men which flopped. Female stars have to be in movies made for women and those are rare these days.
love this. Truth
@@orlock20 I think it's mainly that they started to focus more on the effects than anything else. They'd plug any square jawed, stoic guy in to star. Say what you will about Stallone, Schwarzenegger, and Willis; they each had a fairly distinct style and character. It didn't matter if the name was John Matrix, Ben Richards, or Doug Quaid: It was always ARNOLD. It wasn't just about seeing cool action. It was watching THEM do cool action.
As a Sydney fan what was endearing is she didn’t attack the fans for Madam Webb’s failure. That is so unusual these days it made her seem down to earth… and God forbid, likable.
Its her boobs, right?
They did seem likable
only seen the Madam Web reviews, but will see her again in a film as she never trashed the fans, and boobies
Back in VHS days, my kid sister used to insist - every year - on setting the video to record The Oscars overnight and then she'd watch the whole thing back. Can't say I ever cared about it or understood the fascination, but to her it was as important as a Cup Final. You were SOL if there was a film you wanted to record on another channel.
Spoke to her yesterday and, remembering that she used to do that, asked her if she still bothers with that annual ritual. Nope. Anyway, it made me think about how "important" the Oscars used to be, and how desperately _unimportant_ it's become.
As The Drinker said, it's got to be due to the internet and social media. Back in the day, you only really saw "movie stars" on the silver screen or - occasionally - on a talk show, and that was it. So there was something a little bit special about seeing these rare breeds all gathered together in one place, unscripted. It was a glimpse into a world that we didn't get to see the other 364 days of the year.
Nowadays, of course, anyone who cares about "movie stars" has more than their fill of them; there's no mystique left, and we all know that they're just weird over-privileged humans that live in their bubbles. It's more like a freakshow than the menagerie of rare and exotic beasts that it used to be.
Lordy ! U dis this to rewatch ! I could only get movie star picture is I bought an expensive magazine!
Joan Crawford in a 1966 British interview, "Everybody knows too much about stars these days...".
She couldn’t be more correct
Actors used to be controlled entirely by their studios. I think that system ended in the 1940s or ‘50s. Iirc “ United artists“ became the name that actors who wanted to be independent belonged to.
So any media interaction during the time studios controlled the actors went only through the studios so each celeb had an extremely carefully curated persona.
Because they keep telling us!
@@frankgesuele6298 Exactly
wow. legend
What killed award shows was that there were too many of them on TV in the 2000s. Most of these award shows were just there to prop up a dying music industry. The Oscars are the original and the best, sort of a school sports day for Hollywood, but the exclusivity has gone. Watch any Oscars from the 1970s the only celebs there are those nominated for awards and those giving out awards. The rest of the audience are made up of aging Hollywood execs taking their wives out for one day a year. Today celebs turn up at award shows to be seen, their agents insist on it and that is not cool.
The Tony's were awesome when hosted by either Hugh Jackman or Neil Patrick Harris, but that was because you got to see them geek out over all the other Broadway stars and their amazing musical numbers. You could tell that they loved theatre, and so did the audience. They all wanted to be there for the show and the spectacle.
Jersey ftw
It started going downhill when the ones making their acceptance speeches rambled on and on thanking God and every man and his dog and then crowbarred their politics into it.
Hollywood killed awards shows... and nothing of value was lost.
Video killed the radio star.
And the film star
The Oscar is basically a fart jar in the form of a little gold coloured statue.
ACCURATE, tbh
It’s a gold statue that means nothing.
I can't help but think of that South Park episode where Kyle moves to San Francisco.
@@chasehedges6775 I was just going to say the same thing, they're completely meaningless, there's more weirdos that want and will pay for fart jars than weirdos that want or will pay for the gold statue.
@@t3h51d3w1nd3r True. If I was an actor, I would simply just say a few words like “I was happy to make this film and had a good time. Thank you and good night” and then leave.
No matter what they try from here on ...
Too little, too late Hollyweird !
It's been really funny watching them *just now* start doing what a saner group of people would've done the *first* time they got slapped by serious fan backlash to their output 15 years ago.
It's like watching a guy whose eyeballs have already popped, and whose limbs have been singed to charcoal stumps trying to stop, drop, and roll.
Like most things Hollywood gets up to these days the Oscars are a total cringe waste of money and time. Pathetic.
“Schuuuuultz!!!”
Award 'ceremonies' are always an industry circle jerk.
Never forget that.
You wouldn't watch The United Plumbers Association give out awards for Best Plumber.
Isn't that what these guys are doing? Big circle jerk. Gore is just bitter he can't get into the industry. Drinker is trying to get into the industry. Mauler is in the industry. Nobody knows who the other 2 are
Considering the "swag bags" that go along with these events, they just do it to get more free stuff while being praised for work they already did and got paid for.
Like a Kardashian wedding, it's all sponsored by companies wanting a product placement.
The other aspect other than social media diluting the Star Power of actors is the sheer volume of shows and movies people have access to. When a new movie came out every one used to watch it, it was very likely the only TV Show or movie to come out for months.
Now movies can come and go without most people even knowing they exist. A movie can win something like a Oscar and half the audience never heard of it.
I was wondering what John Cena was covering.
I thought he had that removed.
i believe he has a commie star on his …….
Katt Williams said that this was all part of the Hollywood humiliation ritual
With the amount stuff he's on for as long as he has, there's probably not a lot left to hide.
Bing Chilling!
His pride.
The only good thing to ever come from an Oscar win was when special effects supervisor John Dykstra used the Oscar he recieved for Star Wars to create the flare effects for the intro to the original Battlestar Galactica.
He borrowed a laser from a university and shot a beam at his Oscar statue. The laster hitting the gold created huge colorful flares and he filmed it and put it in the movie. His Oscar is now melted on one side.
The flares you see during _"There are those who believe..."_ is his Oscar being burned by the laser.
Cool!
Damn, that's cool!
Very cool, thanks for sharing and trust it's true
@@LegwarmerProductionsof course it's true, it's on the internet isn't it? Lol
@@mikepatton8691 :) well, I've heard stranger post production true stories
Say it with me people!!!!
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I'm down
This has to happen.
@@dronesclubhighjinks Haha, this is actually a thing!
I mean a bunch of rich people that meet dressed in clothes and accessories that probably worth more then our yearly salary try to tell us what to do.
Sounds like State of the Nation in my country. Politicians in designer clothes listening to the President going on about his party's annual achievements.
Congratulations, Drinker, for being featured on the Pierce Morgan program along with Nerdrotic! I love that you guys are getting this mainstream attention. All the hard work that you and others have put in, articulating a cogent critique against wokeness and the lack of creativity in our media, is finally paying off.
“There were some men… beautiful men, with chest hair…”
"Lots and lots men..."
I can speak to losing interest in a production depending on the actor involved. Celebs access to social media makes them genuine liabilities to production companies
Part of getting signed for a film should be an agreement not to show up on social media for a while…
Yep, just look at what DonG-lover did to the Han Solo movie, two weeks before opening? Basically retconned Lando into a “pansexual” on Twitter and it cost Lucasfilm an estimated $50-60M???
The Oscars went downhill the moment it got hyper political and that, for me, happened in 2001
Did something happen at the 2001 Oscars I'm forgetting about? Or are we talking about post 9/11?
@@dumbguydepot304I remember Tom Cruise gave an opening speech at the Oscars post 9/11 and I thought it was pretty good. He only talked about the magic movies provide and did not virtue signal. Do watch it.
AS far back as the late '90s.
@@dumbguydepot304 I remember Michael Moore's tirade at the 2003 Oscars and the polarized reactions that followed. There had been similar happenings before, but that was definitely a sign of things slipping out of control.
Agreed, when HAL 9000 started going on and on about robo rights I just switched off.
Once upon a time, Robert Clampett poked fun at the Oscars with his classic Looney Tunes clip-show short "What's Cookin', Doc?"
As I've aged, I've found that tragically that short has lost some of its humor. Not because anything is wrong with it, but because the original satirical nature of the short towards the Oscars has become real life. It feels like Oscar has become "the booby prize" with it going from something that genuinely represented high value to a joke for being handed out to undeserving people and film work.
Yep, social media outed these people and a lot of us are realizing we actually don’t like the actors we thought we liked. I don’t follow any celebs I like anymore on social media because of couple of them made me realize I don’t actually like them and I don’t want everything I like ruined so best not to even look at their socials.
And we learned how stupid and ill informerd they actually are.
Marlon Brando may have been the greatest actor ever. But this started in 1972 when instead of accepting the Best Actor Oscar for The Godfather, he had the scammer Sacheen Littlefeather harangue the audience about their supposedly mistreating Native Americans.
I try hard to do the same. After I realized that I was really very unhappy with them as people I found ignoring anything actors have to say about anything hasn't been difficult at all. 🤔
I stopped caring about award shows in late 90s. That's also around the time there were worthy winners.
And now you just watch people talking about them
@@criticalcommenter
Duh...
@@ereini0n yeah. Was kind of a duh comment from you
When they failed to give both Mannequin movies ANY awards at all, despite them being the single greatest duology ever made is when I lost my faith in them. How can you have the pure art of a god blasted in your face, and you throw no awards at them?
Movies weren't poisoned by the woke poison yet.
You can see Sydney Sweeney's great...personality...in 'The Voyeurs' and 'Euphoria.'
You can see the wonderful personality of Mimi Rogers (former Mrs. Tom Cruise, the person that introduced him to Scientology) in “The Rapture.” It’s an absolutely awful movie, but there are two (two!) scenes with Ms. Rogers exposing her assets.
Madame Web has massively shot sweeney into the limelight. 6 weeks ago, barely anyone had even heard of her. Now she's on every other UA-cam video thumbnail lol.
She was already in "Euphoria", and had two good reasons to see her. (Wink wink nudge nudge)
I love it when people put her in thumbnails for videos that have absolutely nothing to do with her. It's pure clickbait, but it's funny as hell.
Only bad thing you can say is she's mostly known for her looks, and she broke out really at age 26 or 27? Not sure how many years of being the "hot girl" can last. She already looked pretty stupid playing a high school student in Madame Web.
Though she is engaged, maybe she'll stop acting in her 30's and just retire.
@@och70...and I def click it
I don't get it. Do people like because she doesn't have a boob job? She's standard "Hollywood hot" but other than that there's nothing else to distinguish her from any other blond starlet out there.
Social media killed the mystery of stardom.
Even the Game Awards has turned into the Oscars.
its been like that for a few years now. it was mask off for the game awards when The Last of Us 2 won.
@darthgamer9861 Hence why I can never understand why people put so much stock in the coveted GOTY award ever since. It's all a farce and the real gamers only get a say in one category.
Blockbuster Video (remember them?) used to have the Blockbuster Awards every year. They would put electronic kiosks in the store so customers could vote. Having worked for them back in the day, I can tell you that they should have named them the Blockbuster Employee Awards, because the employees voted FAR more often than the customers did. Awards shows are not a measure of anything worthwhile.
Speaking of award shows. Just look at SXSW. An arms-pushing music festival.
But what’s really interesting is just who owns SXSW. It just happens to be this little company called Penske Media Corporation (PMC). And in addition to SXSW they also own Rolling Stone, Billboard, The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Art Forum, Art News, Art in America, Beauty Inc. and Vibe just to name a few of their publications that they’ve amassed over the last 10-15 years. But like SXSW they also own The Golden Globes, Billboard Music Awards, American Music Awards, Latin American Music Awards and the ACM Awards.
This one company owns them all. Talk about the complete and utter monopolization of media coupled with the ability to create or destroy tastes and styles as they see fit for their quarterly earnings. And we wonder why we can’t get any authentic music, art or film anymore. And this is just one of these creativity destroying major monopolies.
" ... a sanitized version of a dead format." What a GREAT turn of phrase. Seems to me that could describe a lot of the changes and degradation which the Cultural Revolution has wrought upon our society. Thank you for that. Cheers!
Question: Does ANYONE remember a film called “The English Patient” ??? We should, because it won EVERYTHING in mid nineties…🤷♂️🤷♂️
The only reason I remember it is because Seinfield had a whole episode dedicated to making fun of it haha.
I do because I consider it to be the most boring movie I've ever seen. It has great landscape shots, and a side story with Juliette Binoche that's better than the main story. To this day I don't trust movies with Kristin Scott Thomas in and it took me a while to trust ones with Ralph Fiennes.
@@sephus99 Juliette Binoche ... sigh. Showing my age.
And the beginning of my hate of English winning an American award.
The English won EVERYTHING. I hated it
Yes
I show up to a premiere wearing basically nothing and I get arrested. So much for male privelege.
I agree. Their opinions spewed all over the internet and Covid revealed how truly disgusting and gross most of those “actors” are. Also with things like UA-cam I barely even know when a new movie is out, aside from that kid in dune, like everyone is a nobody now.
Sydney Sweeney is the undisputed Hollywood queen. 😅
Her and Henry Cavill in a Bond movie would be great.
no simping
@@CMCAdvanced With her, it’s hard.
Good point about separating the personal views of the performer from their performance. I enjoy a lot of artists I would never want to talk with in person.
Mark Hamill / Luke Skywalker used to be one of my heroes growing up. Now you couldn't get me to have him sign something for me even you paid ME for the autograph
yah, this is the truth
OK, yes, Sydney Sweeney has great b**bs, but what I find most appealing about her is that she is unabashedly feminine and cute. And I think Dakota Johnson is also very feminine (but in a more low-key way), and I like her very much. I hope both of them move on to great success.
You're right. Even Brie Larson has a good pair of b**bs, but she's far away from feminine.
boobies
Exactly…
Checkmate: Sidney
Woody Allen never believed in the Oscars (or the competition of it), which is why he never attends. The only time he attended was in 2002 because of 9/11. Going back to Annie Hall, Woody was performing at a jazz club the night of the Oscars and was unaware that Annie Hall won, until the next morning.
Social media made it more difficult for most folks to separate the art from the artist.
"Oh I loved X in Y."
*Go to tell them you thought they were great in such-and-such a role, see's them frothing at the mouth because of [Current Thing]. *
The problem really started decades ago when celebrities saw all the attention they were getting and thought it was their "duty" to use the platform of award shows to raise awareness on some issue or the other. Over time this has snowballed into what we see in social media. Of course, when Brando had Sacheen Littlefeather reject the oscar on Marlon's behalf (the first instance of an actor making a public political statement on an award show - albeit in absentia) it wasn't really a controversial statement at the time. After the incident at Wounded Knee, most Americans were concerned about the government's mistreatment of native Americans. But over the decades it's evolved into this idea that a popular actor is duty bound to use their platform to spout whatever poorly researched or misunderstood political stance that serves no real purpose other than to divide their audience and put on display how stupid they are. I'm amazed their agents don't do more to steer them away from that behavior. The vast majority of an actor's fan base really don't give a crap about that actor's political opinions, and would likely be happier to not know where they stand on the issues of the day. It spoils the illusion and ruins the escapist fun that movies are.
Its burning down before our eyes and its as glorious as we hoped it would be
It’s beautiful
I’d rather be celebrating excellence to be honest. As a lifelong cinephile it’s very sad what’s going on in the world…
I gotta unsub from these fuckers sometimes. Just sometimes I can only handle so much stupidity and hatred sometimes lol.@aldunlop4622
Camelot looks like a High School wrestler.
it's easier to remember which films won best picture from the 1980's & 1990's than it is to remember who won best picture the last 5 or 6 years. What does that tell you about the Oscars & the current films?
Still want the Boothies.
Named after the actor John Wilkes Booth.
Is Adam Baldwin nominated?
Adam??@@todd8398
The award goes to the actor who did the most to attack the Republican party and/or a conservative politician.@@todd8398
that well done for trying at the end kinda breaks the heart a little
Ryan George has a video called “the first guy to ever win an award.“
It’s Just like Chris Gore said!
Ryan George is the same guy who does “pitch meetings.“
Did see thouugh that Wikipedia had up the picture of the one female of the three producers rather than the producer who wrote and directed the movie...
I saw CODA, and it was a great movie. BUT they didnt do any work on the marketing. It was a really good depiction of what it’s like to live with deaf parents.
I could make a black comedy about living with deaf parents
I remember people talking about the Oscars for days, or even weeks after. Now, I had to look up who won anything, because no one was talking about it. No one cares.
Very true.
Truth
I think really the key thing that they've informed us about through social medial is that they _ALL_ buy into their own hype.
They basically abandoned the pretense that they feel honored and humbled to have fans... because I guess they just didn't think it was worth the effort to hide it anymore. In their minds, they _should_ have fans, because of course they should! They are "the elites" TM and they know it.
It's like they've never just sat down and put it together. "Would anyone root for any main character in a movie with such an over-inflated sense of self-importance as the one I publicly display regularly? And if not, why not?" They don't bother to ask themselves such questions.
If you met these people in public you'd probably think they were fine one to one in spite of their social media.
There's more nuance than just thinking a twitter is their public facing side.
I wonder how Oppenheimer got past all the D E I Oscar nonsense, since there were only two or three poc with limited screen time?
it's like in the military when all they higher ups get awards and you stand there and listen to the BS
That's not just the military. That's every manufactured industry everywhere. Education, Banking and Finance, Media, Industrial. Pantomime and paydays. The military is just as fake as everything else.
I was career Army, and yeah... been in way too many awards ceremonies for non-combat awards for staff weenies. I've never heard a speech from someone getting a Silver Star, but those guys who get their service medals always seem to want to spew advice.
At least those guys aren't going to lecture you about your carbon footprint.
Holy shit I didnt even recognize Mark Hamill as Artur Pym. He sure did a good job tho!
Hey Mauler I just wanted to let you know I (and many others) have your back and I cannot stand what Act Man did. Love y'all and thanks for doing God's work
whuat?
I doubt the awards shows were ever "unscripted," at least anytime during the past 40 years. All those shows have writers, just like "Reality" shows. Bruce Valanche was head writer for the Oscars from 2000-2014. And as for social media, there is no reason to think that any celebritiy's feed is "unscripted," or even written by them. Even minor celebs have assistants and social media managers. And every celbrity has taken note what happened to Jim Carrey, Jenny McCarthy, Roseanne Barr, and Gina Carano and many others when they said something that was "out of line," and what happened to their career afterwards.
The only thing I care about at the Oscars now is Best Animated Feature and it seems like the Oscars are some what taking that seriously now. I just wish Iron Claw got some recognition at the Oscars, that movie was snubbed hard.
The Oscars: “Maybe we should do the Oscars like we used to?” Also The Oscars: “Nah, it’ll be fine.”
Drinker kinda touches on this but with social media we no longer have to rely on the opinion of just the critics and awards.
I saw CODA, but my girlfriend is an American Sign Language interpreter.
In my opinion the french original La Famille Bélier was better. the director americanized it.
I'll say this, I actually like Coda alot.
But to the larger point, the film had no reach because it was on Apple+.
Did Oppenheimer pass their DEI requirements or is that not implemented yet?
Parasite and Slum Dog Millionaire, forgein films, won Best Picture at The Oscars, an AMERICAN film awards ceremony. How many American films have won best picture in foreign countries' award shows?
I can give a caveat for a lot of UK movies because they work directly with American studios and actors, but Parasite is a purely foreign film.
I must be the only person to think Oppenheimer was boring shit I will never watch again I guess.
"Bad take factory" -- I'm going to have to use that.
Imo one of the biggest rip offs in movie awards was snubbing “as good as it gets”. One of my faves of all time. Been bitter about that one for 26 years or so
‘You make me want to be a better man’. Amazing script from beginning to end.
1997 is when things really started to turn and you could see the politics at work. I still see Titanic as James Cameron's vanity project propped up by teen girls rather than a great piece of art.
@@vladpiranha Back then they usually gave Best Picture to movies that made a lot of money but weren't the pinnacle of the art form that year (see: Gladiator).
Yeah I thought Parasite won 2 years ago, it was a lot longer than that. Apparently it was a movie called "CODA". That was the year where Will Smith slapped Chris Rock and frankly, I can't remember anything else about the year except that one clip which was the only clip that I watched. IMO, the best film of that year was Dune. Loved that film.
Good illustration though. Oh and, for the record, Everything Everywhere All At Once won last year though I had completely forgotten that that was last year. Great performances by Michelle Yeoh and great comeback stories for Ke Huy Quan and Brendan Fraser. That being said, I'm personally pretty sad that Austin Butler didn't win for Elvis, he really was brilliant in that role.
Coda is like a solid 7/10 decent little movie but nothing really memorable about it.
@@idawg7332 Was it better than Dune though? Haha.
Dune was also a solid 7
@@Fledermausmann No, dune parts 1 and 2 are easily the best movies of the decade
CODA? WTF is that? What an awful movie title. Sounds like an acronym.
Narcissist gonna Narc.
We all know why Moonlight won, come on now. Let’s not kid ourselves.
I was out of the loop on the Hamill grandkid story.
Good christ that was sleazy.
Even for its own issues back then, I kind of miss Hollywood’s golden years. Back then, from the 20s to the 90s, or maybe a shorter amount of time, Hollywood was a place of dreams and passion. Where the art, mattered. Above all else. Practical sets, genuine, talented stars, award ceremonies that felt real and meaningful. When you cared about the actor, what their latest role was. You’d ask: “What’s Monroe’s latest movie”? Or, “Cooper, what’s your favorite role”? Or, “What do you think was Karloff’s best work”? You’d care about the actor, and not solely just the character. It was a time when Hollywood had standards, passionate creators and artists. All determined to meet the expectations of the camera and the director. Sadly, Hollywood’s golden years, ended long ago. The red carpets are worn, the city of the stars has lost it’s luster, and the golden streets have become dull.
Non-plussed means surprised.
It used to but now it can also mean, not bothered or interested imo.
@@petersmith5915 Like how people changed “literally” to also mean “figuratively”?
@@kinghadbar probably yes but i think thats been a social media thing, used to emphasise bs mostly lol.
Or "bemused" from "confused" to "ironic amusement".
@@petersmith5915 I hate it. Get off of my lawn and into my dictionary from the 1930s.
Social media killed the mythic and mystical figure of the movie star.
Streaming services killed everything else. I barely know the new actors. They are in streaming services now along with the already established ones. And I do not have the "plus" services of entertainment companies. No appeal to me. There so many shows that actors are diluted and you don't get to know any of them.
I like searching what films were nominated in previous decades as usually the best (or more interesting) films don’t win and then watching them
Oscars were always irrelevant. Lots of Oscar snubbed films have gone on to be recognized as legendary while the winners from that same year are long (usually immediately) forgotten. Citizen Kane and It's a Wonderful Life are great examples of their time. THat being said, it's also important to note that there are plenty of STONE COLD CLASSICS and truly great films that won best picture and are still enjoyed by new audiences. Like silence of the Lambs, Forrest Gump (despite more deserving competition that year), Rocky, Godfather, Platoon, In the Heat of the Night, The Sound of Music...
Yeah...the boldness and smart approach of Sidney Sweeney to Hollywood is so refreshing. I know, she's got a great body, First We Feast interview showed her as a really grounded and fun person, while her brain was melting with spices and she just rides that wave, playing to her strengths, unfazed by the fact, that some projects do not turn up well, it's still paycheck. She will proudly boob her way through Hollywood, smiling and waving, using the potential mistakes and mishaps as a fuel for her future successes. You know what? I can respect that. At least she's brutally honest about who she is and what she does.
I haven't paid attention to awards shows in forever
It's crazy how people are going crazy over Sydney Sweeney but haven't seen Euphoria which she is most known for and nude all the time in.
I would’ve never guessed that CODA won best picture in 2022. I had to look that up.
1:23 I can never unsee the fact that whenever Blue Collar Loser takes a sip if his drink and someone makes a comment, there is always this forced "pre spit take". I must have saw it a dozen or more times through this episode of Open Bar. Dude, you're trying to hard.
I think the only reason viewership increased this year from the previous few years is people where hoping for something along the lines of the Will Smith/Chris Rock debacle.
While it's a bit older, I'd say all the talk shows hurt it too. It used to be just Carson and Letterman. Even when that started to blow up, there was a definite hierarchy and those two were still at the top (albeit Arsenio had a nice run). Then Carson retired and the whole thing became a mess. Leno held the Tonight Show together for a while, but let's face it. It's not the big deal it used be. I remember how huge it was when a young comedian was actually brought over to talk to Johnny after doing his/her three minute routine. Most of the time, they just left but if Johnny asked you over, it was a career maker.
Godzilla Minus One was the only good thing at the Oscars, everything else….F*ck em.
Considering how often the Oscars get it wrong that show has been irrelevant since 2008 when The Dark Knight was snubbed for best picture, director & screenplay.
I only watched the show for rdj
I do think another problem is that since 2000 or so, Hollywood studios started to delineate between "Oscar bait" movies and movies people wanted to see. It meant the audience didn't have much rooting interest in the nominees because they hadn't seen most of the movies. Take a look at the line up in 1973: The Godfather, Deliverance, Cabaret, Sounder. These were wildly popular movies and all very different from each other.
You guys did not saw "society of the snow" , hands down the best picture of 2023
The Oscars and Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences was a PR move by Louis B Meyer et al, to bring respectability to the film industry after some scandals (lookin’ at you Roscoe Arbuckle).
Ah, Fatty Arbuckle and his "Snow Balls". 🤣
Arbuckle was acquitted of those charges, wasn't he? His career was ruined by that time, but he was acquitted.
He was framed Fatty was
How much money did the Oscar's make from views? And how much did they spend on the Oscar's?
I can't imagine reading the tweets of movie stars.
Thank you.
Which movie did more people see, Moonlight or Moonfall?
Hollywood will probably go through the same thing as games did with the crash in the 80s.
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This events are self back patting events, for super large egos.
More people will rewatch The Dark Knight then will ever watch Slumdog Millionaire because most people never heard of it.
The Dark Knight is awesome but I might give Slumdog Millionaire a watch sometime
2008 was a good year
@@chasehedges6775 But how many times have you seen The Dark Knight?🦇
@@frankgesuele6298 I’ve watched a few times and it’s great
There are no more Movie Stars. When the old guard finally kicks the bucket or retires I already know I'm not going to know any Actor's name. In the future it'll all be AI generated anyway, the first step is almost accomplished- no more Movie Stars. If they kept their private life private and stayed off social media they could still have that mysterious persona, but they all need that Social Media Kool-Aid.
I liked the acceptance speech for The Zone of Interest .
Quite noteworthy, but I dont think they commented on ti.