Official TIME TO CLIMB FAI world record! 1'40"!
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2018
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April 19th, 2018. Oxnard airport.
Team Aviation F/X and Russ and Eric McFarland bring you the World Recordfor time to climb to 10.000' in 1'40" from brakes release. The aircraft is a modified Harmon Rocket powered by a massive Wankel rotary engine boosted to 650hp. The McFarlands are expert promoters of the Wankel rotary engines and this latest exploit is the culmination of a brilliant research and development project that lasted years.
SPECIAL THANKS to Paul Lamar for his invaluable expertise on Wankel rotary engines, that made this feat possible trough relentless research and dedication.
Please visit www.aviationfx.net or www.theclouddancers.com to get more information about rotary applications for experimental aviation as well as to know what we can do to make your experimental aircraft faster, smoother and more efficient.
Thanks for watching! - Спорт
Great record, but it would have been a much better video with more in depth interviews and info rather than that awful music.
Please for the love of God! Can you please stop! The god dam!! Music
boom rt boom lt boomboomboom,,sheezuss kill it,,,ditto goddamn shit can the racket
OMG right.. what or who do you think could have possibly figured this was a good move ? Yea nobody wants to hear anything but that disco beat baby OMG
Just the music of that engine, please! Don't they get it? We love the sound of the planes!
That's the problem with mainstream songs. When the video gets old, no one can stand that music anymore.
@@hugopfeffer4175 The only "main stream" that crap music ever fell into was an open sewer.
Just skip to 3:21 for engine startup. Record flight ends at 6:30. Then the damned f*cking music starts again.
you're doing God's work, thanks for the linked timestamp
THANK YOU!
Music editor should be fired
Out of the end of a canon!
I want to forward this to some of my aviation buddies but I can't do that to a friends ears or sense of well-being
Are we allergic to quiet nowadays...... enough with the music on everything!
True
🎯
This is the most boomer shit I've ever seen??? What's youre problem with music 😂 and I don't think there's a single gen z who's watching this
Really could have done without the music, it's vomit inducing.
Unfortunately one man's vomit is another man's soup...
... at the cafeteria at my workplace.
It is music that millennials listen to while they suck their thumbs.
I agree, fortunately MUTE works well!
It was fine at the lower volume level, but at the higher volume it was annoying
I noticed a bit of right aileron during the climb. Was that because of the overwhelming torque, the overwhelming p-factor or the overwhelming horrible music that made the airplane want to flip over on its back and auger in?
Congratulations gentlemen ! I am happy to have met Paul Lamar - he saw my 13B powered Breezy on exhibition and gave me great input. I am flying my Breezy since almost a year and love the engine !
R.I.P. Paul sadly lost his battle with mental illness.
R.I.P. Paul Lamar... he lost his long term battle with mental illness.
It's always good for aviation, to see people that are still committed to breaking these records. Inevitably it pushes the envelope.
Videos like this should have no music at all. I'd like to say something positive about the flight but it is the video that gives access to the flight and the video is so painful that it nullifies any positive impression I would otherwise have.
Congratulations! Three cheers from Idaho!
Contratulations! And it has a rotary engine!
Its WANKEL engine not a Rotary
I cannot believe Bernie Sanders came to your celebration. That was a cool flight and I did tolerate the music lol.
Ahah! Thank you, you can join the other 2 people who didn't throw rotten tomatoes at a video of a great achievement 😅
Love the sound of that Rotary... great to see the Wankel engine showing that it can be a great platform as an aviation engine! I thought it was great watching the altimeter try to keep up with that insane climb! I am anxious to see what Geiger does with their new rotary aircraft engine! I think with the water cooled rotor in their design that it will greatly improve the Wankel engine and make it more suitable for aircraft use! I think it is a brilliant engine design and if certain elements are improved will make an excellent aircraft engine!
When Wankel comes of age (Mazda efforts, Liquid piston research, ...), it will find itself, right beside the turboprop!
@@DakarBlues I couldn't agree more and feel the Wankel design is perfect for aviation... and really hope to see the Geiger guys succeed with their design? I really was impressed with their dual motor redundant design using a single PSRU. Are you familiar with the design ModKane?
www.aviationpros.com/engines-components/aircraft-engines/piston-engines-parts/article/12318212/geiger-motor-gmbh-delivers-new-wankel-aviation-engines
@@DakarBlues Thats just alot of naive wishful thinking... any legitimate engineer worth his salt knows the Wankel engine is an obsolete technology and inherently inferior to reciprocating engines and gas turbines.
@@flynic3 I cannot find any recent information regarding this engine anywhere except for your own posts on forums...
Can you please confirm that this engine passed its airworthiness certification or ever reached production?
I can't find any airworthiness certifcate on file at FAA or EASA???
@@sandervanderkammen9230 As far as I know they have not applied for certification and were still in development. I have not seen anything recently, which is very disappointing... and see they were pushing forward with Electric motors etc. Originally, I was under the impression they were still working on the design to use as a generator for the batteries of their electric motor setup. I really hope they continue the development and move forward with EASA certification, but as a majority of the promising aviation engine designs go, this clever design may fall by the wayside. If you look further into what Geiger was developing, you would find they were resolving a lot of the shortcomings the Wankel engine has experienced with liquid cooling the rotors and a few other tricks. The company has developed quite a few interesting products... however the Geiger-Motor.de website now forwards to another one of their companies.
www.geiger-praezision.de/home/
www.geigerengineering.de/
Awesome rocket ship,...thanks for the share.
That was impressive; similar to corporate jets i've watched taking off from our local airport.
people in love with aviation, congratulations to all 🛩️ 🇧🇷
Where could I find more information on this aircraft engine build? Im interested in what OIL and Fuel is being used. and procedures used to keep it running effeciant
AviationFX of Santa Paula CA is the company that did the mod. Check out the website and send an email!
Wow, that record should be annulled due to the horrible music choice.
Hey. Atlas Robotics what have you done lately, anything worth telling anyone about, screw you.
Its not a World record, only a class record.
Awesome aircraft video dampened by silly un-needed music.
Exactly what I was thinking. 1 person uses a song in their "epic" video, and out come the lemmings to copycat.
watching that thing scream into the sky like a homesick angel was awesome. what a BEAST
Impressive. Does the reduced drag of cowling not improve airspeed in this type of mission?
Quentin Carter airspeed is only 90kts and the cowling would have to be huge and heavy to envelope that massive engine and cool it down properly...so it turned out to be more efficient to just let it be naked! :)
Just loved the music, it was soo great. What was the video about?
wow could have been so much better if the music disappeared. FYI most aviators would prefer real engine. Especially a Wankel
That's amazing.
Great to see the rotary showing its potential! Where does one go to get the latest on the rotary in experimental aircraft? Thanks in advance!
paul lamar is running the rotary newsletter
@@verylongname1 After suffering many years with degenerative mental illness, Paul Lamar died in March, 2020.
Awesome!!!!
Ditch that crap music.
🛩️LOVE IT!! 🤗 IS 3 ROTORS OR 2 ROT ORS.
🙇 I'M PUERTORICAN,🇵🇷 AND I LIKE WANKEL ENGINES AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SEE WITH THEM.
2 rotors
almoust 40 psi and only 650 hp it should be 2 rotor
What kind of cruise speeds do you see with that fire breathing dragon? Also fuel burn and range? Very impressive!
Cryptodoc all of that is unknown, the aircraft was never tested in cruise! :) However it climbs at 90 knots, 60 degrees of pitch, burning 6 gal of ethanol in a 2 min climb and 6 min glide ;)
I would love to hear about the other performance numbers. Truly impressive. I fly a 58 - C180 with O-520. I flight plan my climb at 0.2 (12 min) to 10k 4.5 gallons.
@Brian Foote They got the record, screw you!
Congrats! Truly impressive. Can you share which FAI class/category you were shooting for?
RV7 Builder thanks! It was quite a feat :) FAI world record for time to climb for reciprocating engines. Only military Jets are faster!
Maurizio,
It looks like Rarr Bear's 3000 meter TTC record is 1:31.9, is that a different category? Thanks for the info!
RV7 Builder not sure where that number comes from, maybe an unofficial attempt? In the FAI website www.fai.org/records you can see the official record :)
Maurizio, I'm checking on that now. There are various classes (weights), but I can't find them listed on the website.
RV7 Builder category is C-1b
Great Job ... real birdman .... congratulation
Bloody Impressive!!...👏👏❤...Wankel's are an absolute engineering marvel, but sadly not widely used in comparison to the piston & turboprops.
I always thought they were interesting 🤔 to say the least. So I jumped at the chance to own a Suzuki RE5 2stroke rotary engine motorcycle 🏍, with a goal of 200mph at the Bonneville salt flats with the addition of a (Garret) turbocharger and a squirt of nitrous oxide. Then in 2003 I became disabled in a workplace injury, and everything has been frozen in time ever since..smh...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Go back and edit out the noise ( so called music ) other than that very nice accomplishment.
Congratulations! What a great achievement!
Thumbs down for abominable noise.
World's worst music... But awesome plane
WTF... did an eight year old edit this?
He is a great teacher on planes
GOING UP!!!
I liked the sound of the rotary, I would share this but the music is terrible. Awesome plane would like to know more about it. When was this flight?
Well, I applaud the record capture.
Could not watch due to induced earache.
Great effort at setting new record. complainers can always turn their volumn down or off it bothers.
*This aircraft did not set a new world record, the old record still stands at 51 seconds.*
@@doktorbimmer By who and where ????????? Comments without facts are just that stupid.
@@ohwell2790 Viachesslav Brovchevko, 51 seconds, March 4th 2005.
FAI official record ID number 10883.
I actually ended up here wondering what a Mazda powered plane sounds like from inside the plane. I would have skipped the video if not for the person that posted the time stamps for the music free part.
I want to hear this plane run!!! THIS MUSIC MAKES MY EARS BLEED!
Looked like he was flying with his eyes closed, made me nervous. Nice to see some experimentals with Motec.
one of the best things about youtube is reading people complain about music roflmao
Let’s go 13B sounds awesome
Sounds rough as hell on approach neater the less I think i could knock 15 seconds off that time. Few little aero tweaks and my 62 kilo body and single seat experience. What exactly is the airplane? Rv1 or stitts playboy? Or am I way out?
Go back to the funny farm and get spoon fed by a fat nurse
This guy was no where near the World's record, this was only a class record.
I will never be content with the climb performance of my airplane, ever again.
Maybe, but did you hear the fuel burn??????????????????????
Not until you buy a MiG-25...
99.999% of the comments: "THA MUSIC IS KILLING ME INSIDE!!!!11!"
0.001% of the comments: *Actually admiring the record set * "Amazing world record! Well done!"
What altitude were you at when you reached the end of the runway?
Thanks to a bit of headwind, we reached the end of the runway at approximately the 9000' mark! The GPS speed was indicating zero...
@@MaurizioPerissinotto That was unreal! Awesome job to the entire team!
It would have been even more interesting if we didn't have to do the math ourselves. In any case, the ship was climbing just a wee bit faster than 6,000' per minute. The only other piston powered aircraft that is faster that I can recall (and I could be wrong) is the Grumman F8F Bearcat that set the same record in 1946 (94 seconds at 6,383 fpm). Obviously, this record was set in a different and smaller class but it's still nothing less than an amazing feat.
What crazy type of engine is this?
What kind of a three blade prop is that???
What is a realist TBO for this setup? .
Given the horrible reliability and short TBOs on a stock Mazda engine this was probably a one shot deal...
I wish you would have got a close up of the engine......
I suppose an engine cowling would have just added unnecessary weight. I noted the low-tech
yellow angle of attack indicator hanging in front of the pilot. The propeller is obviously a fixed
pitch design, no doubt a climb-optimized pitch.
James Henry, climb optimized? Why would they put a climb optimized prop on for a climb record ? Just does not make any sense. Why wouldn't they use a cruise optimized prop for a timed climb record? DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
knight considering in the video he pretty much was gliding down i think james is right.
Pls no music
Whew! That’s a scary sounding engine
Insane performance though
do a vid about bd5 plz
The sound of the rotary was great, as was the achievement. But in this case this video has THE BEST COMMENT SECTION EVER!
Yeah man we are very proud of having brought the internet community together on this comment section! :)
Almost sounds like a 2 stroke model airplane. Congrats on the record.
The wankel engine is actually a 2 stroke engine, each rotor has intake, power and exhaust every revolution.
@@rolandcottrell9588 , Wrong.
The music was crap & way too loud. Otherwise an awesome feat !!!
*Not a world record, only a class record.*
Sandervan has no idea on how record attempt classifications . This record was set for the class of time to climb, to 3000 meters. No it never beat the Speed over Ground, like RareBear or other turbo props have.
props to the cameraman
turbo rotary in an airplane...be still my beating heart.
Wankel engine
@@sandervanderkammen9230 yeah yeah. "Turbo Wankel"... You and I have had many a discussion about this. Just let me enjoy this shit and keep yourself to yourself.
@@Bearthedancingman Ah, you silly kids with your gutter slang...
@@sandervanderkammen9230 hahaha I'll own up to that one. It's truth after all.
@@Bearthedancingman Cheers! Happy Holidays my friend!
Don't do music! Huge distraction.
Amazing effort but wow poorly edited & an utter insult to the ears !
Nice Video,, nothin wrong with the music! Play what you want,, Awesome Awesome undertaking on the ttc!
Dan Gray gave me my aerobatic training back in 1973. Cool to see this.
Adventure Flying that's awesome!! Why don't you come visit us in Santa Paula someday and surprise him? :) You still do acro?
The Cloud Dancers Team No real acro anymore although I did a small bit with Rich Stowell, another ex SZP, instructor in Idaho last summer. I’ll stop by next time Im down in Santa Paula.
Adventure Flying awesome make sure you message us, contact is in the description or you can find me at facebook.com/theclouddancers
I wana see ur verticle speeed indicator
And y no cowl?
Cowls cost weight, and he's climbing at Vy, where there's not much airspeed. Besides, they'd need a huge custom cowl to cover all that.
Did you not watch the altimeter and do some simple math. Guess you went to public school !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why the noise?????????????
I want one!!!
A dam fine acheivement , music or not !
This is not a World's record, only a class record.
The World's record still stands at 51 seconds.
@@sandervanderkammen9230Class achievement record is still a RECORD. Poster never claimed it was a world record. As I read all these post, every time someone post anything positive about this achievement, you come in to divert and belittle the achievement because you HATE the WANKEL engine.
Can I study how to build a plane.. Help me
Reliability has always been in my mind as soon as I hear the words Wankel rotary engine
Surely an engine cowling would make this beast even more capable in climb.
Total hack job
Why no engine cowling? Cooling?
It was calculated that at the best speed of climb, the reduction in drag wouldn't justify the weight increase. Also, we think it looks more badass with the cowl off!
650hp. Hmm wonder if my kitfox will support it lol.
Why no cowling?
What's the reasoning behind the choice of a fixed-pitch propeller?
The choice of a Mazda engine clearly indicates there was absolutely no reasoning in this poor decision..
@@sandervanderkammen9230Poor decision indeed. That's why it got the class record. Don't hate the player, hate the game. 🤣🤣
@rotaryperfection It's not a world record, the world record is 51 seconds.
Gas Turbine engines are superior in every way, Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and cannot be used in type-certified passenger aircraft.
Podia ter um bridge Port, e ser um 26B
What happened to this record In 1972 Shelton's modified Bearcat broke the world 3,000-meter time-to-climb record with a time of 91.9 seconds-a record it still holds-and in 1989 set the ultimate piston-engine speed record ???
This is not a World's record, only a a very insignificant "in class" record.
The Music @ 3.40 is good.
Absolutely Horrible Music
I stopped watching at 1.50 minutes because I could not take the music.
So turn the sound off. And make a video of your own. And you are a dog.
*comrade, go, to space we must climb*
Awesome use of a forgotten engine. This little guy screams! And it is extremely light compared to other engines in its HP range. Imagine if this technology had been available during WWII. Larger displacement, supercharged, multi rotor engines could have kicked the asses of any other internal combustion engine at the time!
Without the advancements in metallurgy that are currently available I'm not sure what could have been done back in the 30's and 40's...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇲🤠
Holy shit the rate of climb
Hey guy's can I ask what the deal is with the NO engine cowling deal ? could it have anything to do with the poor engine coolant system placement Or is that just how it's meant to fly ? And I'm really so sorry guy's that I wanted to watch this video so much but the music forced me to watch Infomercials instead and I HATE infomercials
Would you guys please stop commenting about the music. Turn the volume off.
You really don't get the importance of breaking this record? This is 1 minute 40 seconds! The last record I remember was 2 minutes and 5 seconds in a stripped down Yak 3U military aircraft. This is what power to weight ratio is all about man. This is beyond way cool. You have a 650 HP rotary engine that is probably light enough for a guy to pick up.
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! ! !
Did you guys try Supercharging? I wonder if you might be able to shave some time off the new record you set by doing that? Can you comment on the weight of the aircraft? Did you use any composite materials? Is the Prop anything special? Is the engine a 2 rotor 13B? The engine banned at Lemans because it is an unfair advantage is knocking off some more records.
THIS IS SUPER COOL / AMAZING!!!
Did you not see the Turbo charger ????? Go watch the video again and pay attention.
to all of those complaining about the music you can either turn it off or do your own videos without it! Come on this is flying in any of it is beyond words!!
Really? If you have to mute a video to watch it, whatever benefit you may have gained from it is severely reduced.
@@ohwell2790 yeah, that's it. Thanks for turning my life around.
Hey CDT sounds like adding music to the video not such a big hit
Let us know how you feel about the music people
Ditto! By!
maybe with more rotors and on a longEZ this could be even better.
Can someone please talk about the fact he was in a 60 degree climb in a twin turbo rx 7 with wings?
The problem, dear Cosimo, seems to be that most viewers are music experts but don't know (or care for) anything about aviation feats! Oh well... :)
@@MaurizioPerissinotto Haha my call has been heard ! All i needed to hear was that engine and that's what i got , people still dont know theres a mute button
....that, and a link to a musicless version on my channel 😅
For people like us, the sound of the engine is music enough.
Dam thing was reving at 8500………not long for this world. Made just for 10 min life.