Building an 18’th Century Wood Lathe | SPRING POLE LATHE | PIONEER LIFE | SELF RELIANCE
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2022
- Peter builds and describes the function of a reciprocating spring pole lathe. He also finishes a saw horse for bucking firewood. The lathe was a common tool used by the pioneers in the 17'th, 18'th and 19'th centuries. it was used to make bowls, plates, handles, chair legs, ladders etc.
Peter also discusses his plan to relocated a mid 1800's log cabin to his pioneer homestead to use as a blacksmith/workshop. This was an original settlers' log cabin that was eventually utilized as a log barn for livestock. The end goal is to recreate an accurate working 18'th century blacksmith shop.
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Featuring - Peter Kelly
Cinematography - Catherine Wolfe
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Good mourning Peter,
I was just looking at my videos at the kitchen table with mourning coffee, behold, Peter pops up
with another wee bit
of history, knowledge,
and another fine project to enjoy. You sir, are an amazing inspiration and a living
encyclopedia of wealth and knowledge.
Thank you so much for sharing this wisdom for all to enjoy and learn from every day. Have a great day
this Father’s Day, my friend. Bob S. Ohio
Thanks so much, Bob and a happy Father’s Say to you.
Thank you for your kindness and your history and taking the time to invest it in our minds in our time it's a wonderful gift you have I hope we never lose it love always Freddie
Flattered Freddie, thank you.
Been turning for 45 years and have been wanting to fabricate one of those for 45 years.
Good Job.
I could sure you to give me council on tools and techniques, Jason. No skill at this point but, lots of determination!
Cathy's eye for the wildlife and beauty greatly enhances these videos!
Indeed, Robert, she definitely has an eye for it and the patience to capture those wildlife moments. I will pass on your kind compliment.
I enjoy seeing what she has captured and I learn from you.
What an enchanting, educational channel.
Thanks for your interest.
sure enjoy your videos.hope you film taking the old cabin down. thank you
That is our intent and we do appreciate your interest.
I'm really looking forward to you showing us how to use that lathe.
Me to if I’m able to master it.
@@TheWoodlandEscape lol I'm sure you will.
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Been watching all your videos...living vicariously through you for a couple of months now. Keep the videos coming.
Thank you, we are flattered.
I can't tell you how much I enjoy watching your work and how much I learn watching you work. Thanks
Thanks Mark.
One of my fondest childhood memories was a festival in my home town well here they would show rural crafts. My grandmother making “karnemelk”, blacksmith and lots of such. This channel always reminds me of those memories. Thank you so very much.
Thank you, Albert but, do tell, what is karnemelk? We love it when people s hare stores on our comment page!
@@TheWoodlandEscape it is buttermilk, I never enjoyed it from the bottle but freshly made/churned it is really refreshing.
I’ll bet it was. I grew up on a small dairy farm and never drank pasteurized until I left for college.
Awesome video. This is right up my alley. Being an historic Blacksmith, ancient tools, machines, and technology is of great interest to me. I'm always looking forward to one of your videos. By the way, I really appreciate your accurate historical knowledge as well.
And we appreciate the interest you have in our endevour!
Very calming channel, then true & pure life is that way! You & what you do on this channel make it probably the best on UA-cam! Your realness & knowledge I tip me hat to!...ATB
You flatter us,thank you.
Built such a lathe to make rollers for reaper and binder that we used to cut oats and barley. The rollers were 48 inches long and 3 inches in diameter.
Paddy from Ireland.
Interesting, Paddy. I hope with practice I might get to that point. What I lack in skill I’ll make up with determination!
Appreciate your efforts and dedication. It is amazing where the true roots of our origin come from. I still make a living from the modern versions of this very machine. They would have thought it witchcraft. Electricity and computer instead of leg and head. Always appreciate your projects. Thanks again and keep your powder dry!
Watch your top knot, Ashley. It remains to be seen if my” leg and head” can actually make something round!
-30?! Not sure you’d get much out of me at those temperatures! I’d stay in bed.
I’m so glad you found UA-cam - you two are naturals at this medium. Still, must be an incredible amount of work, making these videos. Thank you so much!
Some more than others, Rob. At these temperatures, it is much harder on Cathy who does the filming…at least I’m moving around.
Ingenious!! You can see the 'need' creating the solution. I guess human ingenuity in process.
Thanks for the insight.
Ingenious, certainly for the people who thing of such things, now, can I master it?
Can’t wait to see the lathe in action. Also to see the log cabin you will be putting up for your shop. And then think of the history of it.
The fact that the cabin we are about to dissect has 175 years of history is what makes it special.
Looking forward to seeing the new shop. You’re gonna need that rocking chair back on the porch to rest up after all of these projects! As always, take care and thank you for sharing.
Exactly! Not enough hours in a day.
Brilliant learn alot, explain well .
Many thanks
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Your talent and smarts never cease to amaze me Mr. Pete! Stay warm and well!!!
Robin
Love the flintlock!
Thank you!
This has to be one of my top 5 videos of yours. I love it. Cant wait to see more.
That is a flattering compliment , Anthony. Thank you.
Spinning wheel parts, drop spindles, loom parts, wooden bowls… so many things.
And the list goes on.
That's a fine looking lathe that you built, your craftsmanship is excellent. I'm looking forward to seeing your first project on it.
Thanks Jeff … the first piece or two might not be all tat pretty, lol. What I lack in skill I’ll make up in determination.
Can't wait till the next video it's always exciting
Can't wait to see you use that lathe.
Coming soon.
Wow! Can't wait to see how it works!!!
Me too. I’m hoping to film the antics of my first attempt today.
My grandfather had a construction business in the 1940's and 50's and he said when it was cold outside they would build a fire and heat the nails a bit to help keep their hands warm while they were working. Maybe you could do that when you are making projects outside this time of year.
Love it, great feedback!
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Wished you had told me that 45 years ago. Lol! That is a really nice trick. ATB
Hey Peter! I'm sure that "Porky" and "Bucky" will come in very handy! I am amazed that regardless of the culture and place, the people that lived close to the land had worked out what needed to be done in one season, to accomplish the goals set to make the next season easier. Of course, they had A LOT of TIME to figure out what worked and what didn't. The new Workshop will be interesting! Be sure to give it plenty of time to "air out" before reassembling it! Stay Warm!
Oh, I think it has probably had about 50 years or so of airing out, should be good to go,lol.
Those look like hand forged nails...and I am not surprised. I have dug many such nails out of the ground. Buttons also, hand made from oyster shell. That was in Maryland in the 60 and 70s, when I was a lad.
I actually make the majority of nails in my blacksmith shop. We actually did an episode on nail making. Appreciate your interest.
It takes more smarts to build a lathe than to just run one.. I've run several lathes but never did get around to building one, that is quite a feat Sir.
If that is indeed the case, Rob, then there is hope for me!
Thank you for that video Peter! Ironwood! Ok ! I have some of that, I will give it a go! I built a pole lathe last year but haven't been able to find a good pole. I've tried various other saplings but not ironwood! As for the pig barn....I did that too!! I'll send you some pictures! It's my 18th century get a way! I make dinners in my earthen oven and my fire pit! Entertain guest etc. I made a apple potato pie this week! My family would strongly not recommend that recipe!😀
Not to point of saying ironwood will work but, it looks promising. Your 18th century getaway sounds amazing!
That's cool you getting an old-time Log Cabin for your Workshop thank you for the video nice spring pool lathe try that myself thank you Bob
Change of plans. The old log structure was not as sound as we initially thought. We found a lot of the logs had heart rot. The sixth shop is going ahead but, with new logs. I hope to start it early next month.
@@TheWoodlandEscape sorry to hear that you ever need help to move a Old Log Cabin let me know I'll help you
Great tool, I love it. Maybe I will make one. Also love the way you keep your rifle close to hand all the time. As a former 11B in the Nam, I know that drill quite well. Back in the colonial days, Americans out in the woods on the frontier had to be ready for attack by any number of enemies. No calling 911 back then. Probably a good way to live nowadays too. CYA all the time. Be prepared, as the Boy Scouts say.
Sorry Ed for my slow response. That old flintlock is my closest companion, just as you point out would have been essential in the era we portray.
Never seen a lathe like that, cool.
I've seen these used. Your leg will get a good workout. But work just as good as the modern versions. Just not quite as fast. But through diligence and perseverance, you will turn out some fine woodwork.
I’m looking forward to experimenting with it and see if I can master it, Robert.
@@TheWoodlandEscape If you like, you can research 'Roy Underhill'. He did great things with the University of North Carolina on early wood working. His skills are amazing. From tree to tool. He also helped develop the reconstruction village at the foot of the Blue Ridge Mountains and wrote many books on the subject. I know you love knowledge. You will find his teaching very helpful in your journey.
Now this is NICE !!!!❤
Thanks Robert.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Your welcome!
“Porky!” Awesome!
Btw, I built some items for a mountain man rendezvous one time using square pegs in round holes. Odd how that phrase has come to infer “something doesn’t fit”. Actually, square pegs in round hole are astonishingly good fastening. I have a 30”- high sitting stool built that way, well abused now for 15+ years…and not a single peg has wiggled out or moved or even needed tightening!
Odd indeed,for as you say, it works!
PETER ! I had a foot-driven wood-lathe GIVEN to me at a rendezvous believe it or not !!!! The generous man saw how I longed to learn, was making a new wood-lathe for himself, and GAVE me his old one !!!! BUT, there was no springy-branch on it. I tried making one but it wasn't sturdy enough. I looked thru so many but didn't like any of them. I LOVE your model with the spring branch as a part of the lathe whereever you want to use it ! THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING this old-time knowledge !
Wow, Adrienne, that is a wonderful gift. I’ve got the kinks out of mine and hope to be turning tools soon.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I know that you will have a very satisfying time with yours soon. I LOVE the way that foot-driven lathes are so PEACEFUL to use...similar to the peace of using a pottery wheel....so unlike using a fast and hazardess 'modern lathe".
Always impressed on what you do! Thank you for your videos!!
awesome lathe. I have seen one used once and thought the mechanics would be more complicated. good video thanks
Simple, Charles and a whole lot of fun to operate.
You, sir, are an inspiration! These videos are so lovely to watch. I have recently completed a spring pole lathe as well. I hope we get to see yours in action in an upcoming video! God bless.
Thanks, Andrew. I’m getting a few kinks out, like length of the treadle and tool rest but, we will soon film it in action, when I no longer look like a cub bear with boxing gloves on. How did your lathe turn out? I may indeed be seeking your council!
@@TheWoodlandEscape Mine turned out well! I used Roy Underhill’s design. I’ve managed to turn a few spoons so far. I’m hoping to make a video when I get the hang of it.
I think you possess the ingeniousness that our forefathers in the 18th century had! Also, I was complaining today because the high here in Alabama was 30 degrees, but after hearing your temps, I’ll just be grateful 😁
Well Jack, I can cope with the minus 30 versus heat and humidity! Not sure I possess much of anything naturally but, with determination and experimentation, I acquire the skills.
Really like your videos and your knowledge is great thanks
Thank you.
Looking forward to seeing you using your hand built would leave, I would imagine you would need the two tips of the spindles very close to parallel to the cutting blade support. Very cool!
Enjoyed the landscape and wildlife footage, thank you for that.
I have a wee bit learning curve but, what I lack in skill, I’ll make up for in determination.
OK merci beaucoup pour
OK merci
Sure glad you explained that one, cause i was like what the heck is that! You said a lathe and i thought thats not the way i remember it.........
Remains to be seen if I can master it and actually make stuff.
well done leathe!
You living your best life. I'm jelous. Great video.
Thank you.
Good stuff, Peter. I saw one of these demonstrated at an 18th Century Market Faire. Hope to try it one day.
Remains to be seen if I can actually make functional stuff on it but, lacking the skill, I certainly have the determination!
G,day Peter
Saw a bloke a couple of years ago at the Jondaryan Wool Shed and Pioneer Village, near Toowoomba in Queensland, a fella about our age. Couldn't he make that thing sing! and quick too. Temp here today 39c . Maby you might need to build a workshop to house your beautiful creations ! Good video , always learn something, + entertaining.
All the best. Bluey
Well sir, the shop build is going to begin very soon. Oh my, 39c …I’ll take minus 30 any day, stay cool.
This project Is so great greetings from Perú
Thanks. I spent 2 months in Peru in 1988 on a mountaineering expedition. If you go to our playlist we did an episode on the trip.
Yes i wish to get about this history in your trip AND you could trip again to my country to the jungle región
Very interesting video on how you built that piece of woodworking equipment! Thank you!
OK merci
Thanks for watching.
Up here in thunder bay at old fort William there is a treadle powered wood lathe example . The old fort is set in 1815
I absolutely love Fort Williams. On our numerous canoe trips, we always pop in for a visit. You live in a beautiful part of Canada!
Another great video. I see that doe taunted you. My Season for Muzzleloader ended the same as yours. Stay warm!
So why is it Jason, one sees so many deer when the season ends?
Now I'm not only interested about the making of the fur vest but I'm interested in knowing about that small hand saw you were using for the pegs earlier. I'm not only inquisitive..... I'm downright nosy. lol. I'm also getting worried. I'm getting down to the last few videos of yours to watch before I have watched them all. Guess I'll just have to start watching them all over again when I finish up.
The saw is actually not period correct. It’s called a back saw as it only cuts on the back stroke. A great tool for finer work. I thank you for your continued interest and support.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Thank you kind sir.
Great job on the lathe. Are you going to film the move of the mid 19th century settlers house? That is awesome that you are reusing it!
That is our plan, hope to start soon.
Great content as usual, I guess Jenny is a trade gun ? That will be my next acquisition
I built Jenny about 15 years ago and yes, she is a reproduction of an early English trade musket. Very early 1700’s. It is sorta the predecessor to the North West trade musket. It is a plain thing like a trade musket should be, with walnut stock and all steel hardware. It is a. .62 caliber.
Peter, I have been looking at building a pole lathe and this episode gives me ideas. thank you. BTW here did you get the saw blades for your frame saw. Looking for a source. Thank you again from the Ozarks, stay warm.
Sorry for my tardy response. The best way I’ve found is to scour antique shops. You might also check with people in your area that sharpen saws, even those that sharpen band saw blades for portable saw mills, they might be able to help you out.
I built a motorized lathe out of wood 15 years ago. I'm interested in how yours will work out. There is a good feeling when you can do a turning without reliance on electricity.
With a wee bit of practice, I hope to demonstrate its function in an upcoming video.
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thanks again Pete,take care would you be able to do a diy build on the saw horse you have with the clamp down jaws on it ? not sure the proper name it is called
It is called a shaving horse and I might very well do a video on one as I’ve been wanting a longer one for some time. Thanks for your interest.
I've been hoping for a shaving horse project my self. So glad to hear we can look forward that build. Love all your videos and projects and adventures.
Sure was a busy week at the cabin and we appreciate that you share your journey. Just one question, do you have some meat in the freezer yet? I know you have gone on a few hunts but I only see living- walking meat in the videos.
We got 2, 8 point bucks, both your ones, so yes our freezer is quite full.
@@TheWoodlandEscape that is fantastic. I am so happy for you.
Can anyone tell me the name of the tune at about 14:00? Could be all wrong but I'm thinking it is something from the Hebrides that I've heard Julie Fowlis sing.
Loving your lathe, Peter!
You might be right on the tunes origins. Richard and Al, simply provide the music to us with no titles and or origins. A lot of the music we use is their own compositions.
Mid-19th c. structure! Wow! That's awesome! What a great piece to add. Love the lathe. I was wondering if you've stayed overnight in the 18th c. cabin and how well that fireplace warms it up. As I recall, you have a gap between the floorboards and the ground that's open. Did you end up doing anything to insulate there or leave it as is? How much of a draft or temperature difference have you noted?
The floor actually has two layers of pine, with the top one spanning the gap below, so no drafts. Temperature is quite another thing in sub zero conditions. Always nice and warm by the fire but, with no insulation, one is warm on one side. This is how they were built on the frontier in the 1700’s. They were a hardy lot!
@@TheWoodlandEscape Definitely hardy and hearty people! I remembered the two-layer floor. Wasn't sure how much of a difference it made. I'm not at all surprised that you roast on one side and freeze on the other. Like my covered outdoor fireplace experience. How much heat is trapped in the loft for at night? Thanks for sharing all of this!
The loft is actually quiet comfortable but, one must climb down to add wood to the fire. I usually sleep on a tick right in front of the fire.
I think the piece you want to turn would need a weight on a string/rope to pull it downward while the spring board on top, pulls it upward? The string/rope would wrap around the end of the piece a lap or two, right, so it would twist the piece? I want to see you use this lathe.
Soon Kelly and it is simply foot powered. The spring keeps tension on the piece, foot powers the wood toward me and the spring turns it away me.
@@TheWoodlandEscape So you still need to build the foot pedals and a pulley system, then..Just having a hard time picturing that. I would think a weighted rope would work, but IDK. Interesting project. Lol
@@TheWoodlandEscape I just rewatched again and must've missed the peddle part the first time. Gotta have that coffee..lol. I get it now. Very interesting. I hope it works as well as you expect it to. Although I'm sure it would take some practice to get it smooth running.
I saw you having a little difficulty with your flush saw try bee,s wax or candle wax on both sides of the blade it works wonders
Thank you, that is great advice, Brian.
I have an honest question for the woodlands escape. Is the Is rifle in your videos an actual firearm? Does it actually have a touch hole? Is it loaded at all times?
Yes, yes and yes. It is a 62 caliber smoothbore and is usually loaded with shot when I’m out and about. I’ve built a couple of other fancy flintlock rifles, but Jenny is by far my favorite.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Thank you very much for answering my questions so quickly. I have a few more questions. So in your country, your area, you can just carry around your loaded flintlock? That isn't against the law?
If I had to guess what you were building...I wouldn't have been able to guess to save my sorry hide! Dear Lord what a complicated invention! I could only conceive of the 'mind' that was able to figure this one out as being an older man during a storm stay. Why? Because he would have had to have no youngin's to interfere with his thoughts and plenty of time to ponder...along with many pieces of birch bark/charcoal to sketch out possibilities! But perhaps I am deceived and it was a young mother with ten children who had a 'Eureka' moment while milking the cow and feeding the chickens? It's a toss up! That shed move to your place will be ideal...even though the last tenants left it 'like a pigsty'! LOL! I do hope you clear the front porch soon poor Peter...or you will be spoken of as being; 'off your rocker'! LOL! Good steady hand on the camera Catherine. Thanks Peter for sharing your time/talents with us...we are all the richer for it! Health to you and God Bless!
Oh Marie, people have been saying I’m off my rocker for decades. I must say your feedback has given me a wonderful laugh of the day and for that, I thank you!
Do you stay overnight in the cabin? I don’t recall you showing us a sleeping area or bed? Just curios.
We do indeed. We had so many ask the same question, we did an episode called. Where do we sleep, it is our playlist. We appreciate your interest.
Sweet, taking a canoe video break😅. What about what is lost daily now! Keep teaching. Do you go to schools or have kids come by!?
Sometimes one simply needs to change things up a wee bit.
Bracing systems for saw horses seem to require a course in physical mechanics. Forces seem to spread in unimaginable directions.
Indeed James, that college course in Structural Geometry payed off.
"Their's a Man for ya Jeremiah Johnson"
Better know as Liver Eating Johnson. Not quite like the movie portrayed him but, a great movie. The movie I believe is 50 years old this year.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Your absolutely right im sure it was dramatized. I didn't know it is 50 years this year. Great movie 😀
Where can I find the background guitar Richard Fortier’s music?
Mostly unpublished I’m afraid and many are original pieces. I occasionally get to jam with Richard and Al and they are brilliant musicians
I want the music at the end.
Provided a couple of friends of ours.
@@TheWoodlandEscape That's awesome. I wish they would upload the music.
just asking how many cores of wood you burn durning the winter. how warm you keep the cabin durning that time
In an uninsulated cabin, warm is relative to where your standing. You can only truly be warm on one side at a time, lol. Approximately 5 bush cord would required.
@@TheWoodlandEscape its the same at my house built in 1907 still not insulated
Burr!
@@TheWoodlandEscape i live in west virginia mercer county it is not that cold then in canda i burn coal 3 ton a year
Did you name the saw horse Bucky?
I have now Catherine, lol!
Brian really likes the sturdy design of your saw horse and will be building one like it. Ours will be Bucky Jr. We like your channel very much, keep up the good work. Brian & Cathy
You related to Jeremiah Johnson? You sure you can skin Grizz pilgrim? 🤣
As fast as you can get ‘em!.
Why can't you make a big wood flywheel and use the pedal to start it and your iron wood pole to help.
Actually the next evolution is called a treadle lathe that has a large flywheel working of a simple cam that allows for continuous reotation rather than one that turn forward and back, so much faster. Might just have to build one of those as well.
-30C is closer to -20F just so people understand that it’s snapping cold. lol
It has indeed been a tad chilly this winter! I kinda like it!