How I Beat a CHEATER!!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2023
- Hikaru played a high rated account on September 16, 2023 that turned out to be a cheater.
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#gmhikaru #chess #chesscheating - Ігри
The guy who cheated was like "damn, he was using a better engine than me"
hikaru, the better engineer
Hikaru is the engine
We have detected that one or more of your recent opponents has violated our Fair Play Policy. As compensation for unfair rating gains, wait. . . YOU WON? ????????
He was probably playing on his own first two games. And the third one he used an engine. This way he still gets ELO points for beating Hikaru.
I had this happen once where it said +16 rating points so I assumed I had beaten the cheater, but he was probably not cheating in that exact game.
This happens a lot tbh. When I end up opening several games to review I find banned accounts for fair play that I beat. Smart cheaters only cheat in some games, and only a few moves so they can still lose while inflating their elo and ego.
@@aivarasdanila5450he was using engine the whole time, it lets him select various moves
😂😂
Normal people: nooo! It's unfair! He's cheating!
Hikaru: Oh, cheater? let's farm some points.
true lol
No problem with headphones.
lmao normal players have to cheat to be on magnus and hikaru's level
Very interesting..
And farm that content
This was brought up by Kramnik in an interview, cheaters try not to cheat on Hikaru or Magnus because they get banned immediatly. But with lower rated gms they cheat all the time
immeditately*
I dont think hans got banned
@@filipbitala2624because it's hard to prove he cheated against Magnus
He didnt tf you mean@@SR_Owl03
@@nickjunior9862immediately*
"Magnus would trade the queens and win an endgame" - truer words were never spoken
Can you imagine how terrifying that is?
Imagine having an engine barely change evaluation against a speed demon.
it's easy to understand, the engine has to calculate everything again after 1 move, while human can calculate a line and premove, that saves 3 or 4 seconds, maybe more
@@seelmodge7881 No it doesn't. You can set an engine to ponder, and precalculate lines. The cheater was just very stupid.
Edit: in the sense that they probably used an engine on the web.
@@mikejameson7678 someone has cheated before lmao
@@alexanderlyons4807 No, I experiment with openings and I create engines myself. I use a chess gui called Lucas Chess.
Edit: Please stop making assumptions, you pretentious 800.
@@mikejameson7678Its depend on the kN brother. Some Chess app analysis has cloud server that can run 20K kN~100K kN which can run 30 depth in 2~3 sec. No matter how much human can calculated its best recently just got 15 depth~20 depth even in classical games. For additionally that app has engine that run in Stockfish 16(4200 ELO). Making 20 depth alone in blitz is enough to defeat anyone, and the engine can set that just in less than 1 sec with 50K kN, the problem is just how you moved from the engine notation to the actual game.
Im sory for my bad english im not native speaker, maybe you could correction my english
I just now realized that hikaru is the fastest mouse using chess player. Bro clicks all the squares and makes arrows in like a second.
And manages to talk to viewers at the same time !
@@BruceWayne-jh4wh Fr
he is dragging the pieces ;
You should watch Andrew Tang, he's top-1 ultrabullet player) He's way more faster
Naroditsky is strong at too
Forget the fact that the other account owner was cheating.
This is actually insane to watch. Professor H wrecked an engine in a time control.
The guy only used an engine in the third game so no he didnt wreck the engine
@@offensivebias8761🤓
He won the game he used engine
Magnus and Hikaru doesn't have any chance against stockfish
@@offensivebias8761 You're assuming he can even play at that level without cheating.
Something telling me your ratings triple digit
I've found the way me and hikaru are similar. We always end up saying "I've actually misplayed this" 😅
And o shoot I have blundered
yeah except to hikaru a misplay is putting a piece on the wrong square and to us it's getting scholar mated
same! except he recovers and I lose..
This is so low. The dude is cheating and still lost the game. 😂
No he didn't cheat in the games he lost
Honestly it's pretty impressive he got to 2900 without being banned also you know nothing so shut up with your stupid laughing emojis it's pretty cringe
Playing against Hikaru is no joke.
@@randomgeographer4410 but so is stockfish
@cortaisfashion5106 he lost because because hw stopped cheating and was running low on time.
It sucks because they only seem to catch people who just cheat like crazy, but im certain they cant do anything about people who use stockfish just in tough positions a few times in a game. That is enough to make all the difference, unless you’re playing hikaru
Is that even possible to know (?)
@@user-qz6nk1le5nUsed to cheat using this method to test how good their anti cheat is, lasted 8 months before getting banned so yeah.
@@user-qz6nk1le5n it depends i think, but im definitely not someone with knowledge to speak on it. From what I understand it can be noticed or not. The better someone is at chess the harder it would be i think. As bad players who might not play well but just use whatever the “best” move is sometimes will not notice their move makes no sense without the follow up moves. Its a shame but hopefully they improve ability to detect it, as it’s definitely a problem.
Yeah there are people who lose their queen like complete noobs and then start to use stockfish, to beat me. Of course they win, I can see when someone is cheating I know how a bot plays. Normal people usually lose the game or get lucky (because I make a stupid mistake) after they lose their queen, Stockfish just pins down my queen like it's not on the board at all and beats me with it's rooks.
@@user-qz6nk1le5n Statistical and ML analysis based on many content items
The chess speaks for itself
No any proof nieman cheated one year passed
@@user-fr2zt5xd3u Be sure to gently fondle the balls while giving Hans a Handy.
@@user-fr2zt5xd3uhey hans
@@user-fr2zt5xd3uchess speaks for itself
@@user-fr2zt5xd3uexcept for all the times he admitted to and the other online tournaments there's evidence for. Speaks for itself.
The kid was closet cheating. Lost a couple, then fired up the engine.
That's (kinda) smart cheating, if a random player crush Hikaru 3 games in a row it would be too obvious that he is cheating
idk i doubt that he could reach an equal endgame with hikaru without assistance. most cheater have no idea what they are doing (>1200)otherwise they wouldnt be doing it, i think he prob cheated a couple moves in them and then let stockfish take full control.
He was cheating the whole time lol
@@EnigmaChessof course he wasn't, if you look at the level of first two games
@@yusouph2002he cheated 100% the last game, but probably 50% of the moves in the first games. Using engines for any moves is cheating
Not even a cheater can win against THE GM Hikaru
he literally won tho 💀💀
@@sxfbs i know after I watched it.
I fell for the clickbait
2-1 btw@@sxfbs
Stockfish is like 4000 in elo and it is not even the best chess bot we have available
@@easy_eight2810 it was 5 months ago
The day hikaru's opponent has higher time than him, we're doomed 💀
You can't but admire the choices in chess online. You can choose whether to play a cheating human or a cheating engine.
Imagine you had the chance to play against one of best chess players of all times and you cheat how mean and cheap
Cheaters are dumb, and sadly they have increased immensely in recent times. On lichess for example, in 7 out of 10 games you play, the opponent is cheating or will cheat at some point during the game. It's very sad. Online chess is dead because of these idiots.
@@oluwalekeoyedeji444wut?? Where did you get this statistics from? I never encountered many cheaters on lichess.
@@oluwalekeoyedeji444I don't think that stat is true lol, i have 2000+ games on lichess and only get creamed once in a while, usually they r a fair player
@@oluwalekeoyedeji444 Do you think that anyone who beats you is a cheater?
@@oluwalekeoyedeji444 Clearly not. I'd say 1 in 500 minimum.
Hikaru is so fun to watch because of being able to see his thought process with all the arrows he draws
No cheater can face the wrath of the grandmaster hikaru
Hikaru's face at 3:20 and on is truly a glorious display of irony.
man when he fired it up advantage goes crazy. Against a gm thats hillarious
"Anyone is capable of playing a good game of chess."
He obviously hasn't played me.
Saw the title and assumed it was Hans Niemann
bro is too powerful that he can beat a cheater
Bro had the balls to use cheats against Hikaru
I like that you play these games as, as they can "prepare" you for "stupid/unreasonable moves"
Chess c never ban cheaters, only when it’s caught by top streamers.
That is not correct, I've seen dozens of cheat banned and points returned.
@@DaviniaHill Not really, the
@@apahna4ka so, you don't know my rating but I guess I need to repeat, I have seen dozens of cheats blocked and had points returned, this disproves the "never" in the comment and I'm not a streamer so it disproves that. I didn't say there were no cheats, in fact you are agreeing with me that they exist and I only know they sxist because I've seen them banned and had points returned to me.
@@DaviniaHill I've been on the site since 2014, I have my observations with cheat detection 2000.
@@apahna4ka copium
Hikaru having an existential crisis thinking someone is cheating 😂
Hikaru is a real "Human-engine"💀
Cheating on this site has become even worse in the last month or two
I'm glad everyone is beginning to take note. I closed my account on Lichess because of cheaters.
Last game was completely sus
Hans fanboys say you got no proof.
"Damn bro this guy must have a better engine"
I still think its great content, pro players fighting Hard battles. Some cheaters aint that bad.
He was tired of losing so he went fishing.
Always feels good to beat someone who's blatantly cheating in a game
beating cheaters is the most satisfying thing.
Goodnes yes
I've found the way me and hikaru are similar. We can move fast the mouse.
people say that Nakamura got up and left shouting: "ENGINE! ENGINE! ENGINE!"
Bro premoves with real pieces 💀
That filth!
I liked the part where u won against the cheater
Imagine putting your face on the account which you cheat on lol, some cheaters just don't have shame
Yeah, I gotta take my face off now. thx!
@@DexterHavenyou have shame, at least.
You don't really know if that's his real face tho
You are very right, that cheating is a serious problem. I told you so much and yet you seem to not want to listen to me.
That soap sponsor made me feel empathy for the duck that was getting cleaned by their soap product 😂
In 10:16 is that some type of opening by black? If yes, what's it's name? Thanks!
the cheater should've use bong cloud on hikaru
Opponents be like he’s a Cheater
Cheater thought he was Hikaru
LOL. I was hoping this was about Hans.
Some people think he's just talking shit because he lost lol When you're a master at your craft you can see some things that most people don't.
Normal people: dammit, im playing a cheater. May as well resign on move 8.
Hikaru playing a cheater: ah yes, more free elo
When the walls come tumbling down. This is your old buddy @GMHikaru OTT.
cheating in chess has to be the most low life thing you can do
Damn, that's hard
Yeah better to cheat on your boyfriend.
"but can you beat a cheetah?"
20% of them out there Hikaru! haha
He couldn’t beat Hikaru even though he cheated? Yes but he didn’t cheat enough (or maybe not at all). In the last game, he used more engine moves and got the job done. With 100% engine moves, no human stands a chance.
well idk, i think at best hikaru could probably draw depending on which engine the cheater is using
Nope, in fast time controlls humans can wreck cheaters, and engines. Andrew tang was able to defeat stockfish in hyperbullet(admittedly he cheesed it a little)
He cheated in game three and won it my friend
@@wooshifgay462 I think Tang played lower levels of Stockfish not at full strength. I remember watching him play.
@@pola_behr Maybe against bots but no chance against Stockfish which is so ubiquitous these days. He’s said so himself.
It's a lot easier to beat cheaters when you play as white. As black it takes them a lot longer to find the squares mentioned in the engine line. Sometimes they have to get out of their chair, and turn their head upside down, to figure it out. If the websites removed the letters and numbers from the sides of the board, every cheater would take an extra few seconds per move. BUT, they'd all get better at saying the alphabet out loud, and counting.
Unbelievable: that guy -Amihoseyn Soozankar- is a FIDE National Arbiter in Iran
Ur right tho the guy was smurfing… stockfish was using this guys account to boost wins
I get many of those super geniuses who are 800-1000 for weird reasons. I'm quite stuck in the same ratings and a tournament 300-1000 higher is easier.
Hikaru - see, this is the problem, everyone accuses of cheating...
Proceeds to feel suspicious...
The guy was cheating...
It maybe wasn't obvious before. The last game seemed a bit shady.
9:23 -- *"You know there's a cavern named TIMBOJO ?"*
wtf was that about, Hikaru ?! O_o
What is the song used at the intro and ending of these clips?
Bro defeated a cheater
What was all the fuss regarding Nihal at around 3 minutes of this stream?
they lose one game and cry that someone might have been better than them for a game lol
The fact that the cheater is an International master makes it even worse
How do you know he's IM?
@@StartingChess I saw his chess profile where I saw his real name searched it up on the FIDE database where I found out he is an IM with a peak of 2450
@@Ertuti88 What if he used someone else's name?
@@mooseminddayan4650 thats true I didnt think of that
Bro outstockfished stockfish
Opponent plans to cheat*
Hikaru sees the checkmate in 10 moves.
Cheating is pretty much going mainstream, every online game is filled with cheaters. The bigger the risk, the more cheaters are in the game. And that applies only to heavily guarded games with anti cheat technologies. The old ones, classic games for example travian, that have no protection, have whole botnets "playing" against each other.
Even LAN depends on host's competence. Whole setup has to have no access to the Internet, absolutely zero privilleges for users except open/close games and zero usb device connections. I highly doubt that any host applies these steps so even on LAN players can cheat to their heart's content.
When is the Semi finals for SCC?
by looking at the ceiling
3:11 💀
07:00 just like you did to supi when you lost to him
I defeated a cheater once. The dude hung his queen and resigned💀
Or maybe they got banend in the middle of the game? If they get banned then it's an instant auto loss for them
@@BruceWayne-jh4wh if I remember correctly he got banned some time after the game. It was probably a mouse slip
@@The_Top_Gun. Either a mouse slip or he wasn't very good at cheating.
3:21 Jim Carrey face
Bro wont lose to anyone, even cheaters.
13:32 i think if he would played rock f8 to f5 i think it would be the best idk
UA-cam algorithm is not slick recommending me this 💀
You cheat
poor mans gonna search for a new engine now, his searcher history will be like: "GMHikaru chess cheats engine" 😂😂
Now the cheater will accuse you of cheating💀
I like how your opponents who clearly cheat get banned in like the next minute after you play them, the scumbags who cheat against me can cheat for months and never get banned.
Chess.com cheat detection runs Hikaru's and Magnus's games through the engine every game to collect data on how the best play chess - they save it and use it as a "do not cross" line or you'll be seen as suspect. -- the editor
@@GMHikaru why is hikaru using an engine to run his youtube channel? Going to have to report this channel.
@@nd7231 mf did you not read the "--editor" part
maybe that's because you sucks and that guy wasn't cheating, sometimes people have the best game of their lives and those games are against you, stop crying
Interesting...
In his profile, he even doesn't have the GM mark!😂😂
Hikaru beat Hans the cheater again ? Nice video 😂
Bros Hallucinating
He needs headphones for chess. great game thu
What funny is he is mentioning what magnus would do as if he is so predictable. But still lose to him and cant predict hell lose 😂👍🏽
2150 IMs Speak for themselves.
What did Dubov said about Nihal as Hikaru was mentioning it?
must be the headphones
Amir dadah abromono bordi ke😂😂
You are my inspiration
3:22 Giga hikaru
Sad to see cheating at such high ratings
The answer of how to beat a cheater is be Hikaru.
I've always wondered why people cheat online. It's stupid. They're not winning money or trophies or anything. They don't even win bragging rights, because if they brag they get caught and are banned. So, why cheat if they don't get anything out of it?
they can feel good about winning; it's a false comfort for their pride
Fitting title to this video. Lol
the cheater is not better than the ceiling stockfish hikaru has
I was hoping this was going to be a game against Hans
how do we know they were cheating the other games